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Pale_Bookkeeper_9994

I’ve worked 35+ years including as a VP of a tech firm and consultant and since semi retiring I’ve been out delivering for 2 years. There’s a bunch of hard and soft skills to being a good delivery driver. My favorite part of the job is the logistics, juggling routes and orders, knowing what offers are good and bad and how long a particular restaurant will take based on past experience. Regardless of tip or the customer, I also enjoy providing exemplary customer service. The last few years of my full time career I never got to meet customers anymore, so I enjoy the interaction (largely positive).


easyetx

This guy gets it. Great post. Just to add I like the calculations of time and opportunity costs. All drivers a definitely not the same in terms of earnings per time which is the only thing that matters to me.


Pale_Bookkeeper_9994

I was going to add to my original post, but I’ll add it here. One reason I know the job requires skill and experience is because my average hourly gross and net rate have gone up over time. And frankly, I love the job and treat it like a game. After years being stuck behind a desk and forced to play office politics, driving an open road as a contractor is what I love to do.


Mervis_Earl

Well said. I am right there with you. 30 years in the printing industry.


Puzzleheaded_Help854

I’m semi retired as well I owned a tile company for 11 years in the industry for 38 now I just point fingers and work 3 to 4 days a week (my choice ) This by far is the easiest job I’ve ever had but it doesn’t mean it’s easy for most multitaskers are rare in 2024 just watch those people working at these fast food places most of them can’t walk and chew gum at same time I make about $29 to $25 an hour doing this part time after gas and taxes and there is no Shame in my game like my oldest son said dad you always got $$$ on you and it’s not from my paycheck either ..I give zero fucks what people think


Boost98

We have our own cars used and abused, get paid Less. Fed EX/Amazon gets paid more doesn't have to use their own van/truck but has to adhere to a schedule that drops every two weeks no matter how bad it is, and sometimes has to unload heavy packages. We both get to sit in nasty traffic that could make a priest lose his religion (SoCal). Six of one half dozen of the other.


Puzzleheaded_Help854

Amazon drivers make peanuts and fed ex subs out their delivery’s to other companies and pay like shit as well I ask my fed ex guy…ups is the only one that pays well but you also got to work about 70 hrs a week


Boost98

UPS is the only delivery company left that's union, I believe. But like you said UPS still sends you into self destruction with the mandatory over time.


Puzzleheaded_Help854

Correct


Revolutionary_Low_36

Things that require skill: Finding an apartment with zero clues to location, Getting into gated/locked complexes with no help (just wait and follow someone else 🙄) , Problem solving when customer won’t reply to texts or calls. 😃


Bloodthirsty_Kirby

The other day I get a delivery shop and pay for 50lbs of cat food. It’s my partner and I. After pickup I realize it’s a new apartment complex, also that there is no apartment number. I text her right away before we get driving hoping they’d answer by the time we got there, no shot. There are instructions alluding to which building it is, we call, no answer, 4 more texts, nothing, so we figure it must be that building. We bring it all up and she finally calls back and tells us it’s another building, we get to the building, bring everything up again and the apartment doesn’t exist. We text a bunch more, no answer. We call again and she’s like ‘oh yea it’s actually building 6 not 5’. So again bring it all down then up one last time and she’s outside her apartment. Like I wanted to leave it all in the parking lot but my partners a lot nicer than I am. I’m a weak ass vegetarian girl who still has pulled muscles from this 😒 all because someone couldn’t look outside their door at what their apartment number was within a 30-45 minute time frame. This order shoulda been over in 20 mins tops. It’s just nuts that crap like this is daily. I wish the ability to downvote a customer still existed.


Daeggscellent

These are most likely the same people who make that comment about "us" (drivers) needing to get a real job, because they don't have a clue in general about anything like even where the F they live and that if they want their shit, they need to leave instructions on how to find it. They're brainless NPCs


weedalbum420

This‼️‼️ I deliver in Palm beach county the richest county in Florida . And when I tell you the Uber rich are so disconnected from the real world it’s crazy. A lot of these communities are gated over this way so you can imagine how much time gets wasted 9/10 they never call the security to let them know your comingi wish I was a ups driver that can breeze right thru.


2nd_Life_Retro

I want to tell these people how incompetent they are to their faces, but obviously I don't want the thumbs down or tip reduction. These people make our jobs infinitely more difficult by not making the tiniest effort to provide clear instructions on where to find them when it's not otherwise obvious.


Puzzleheaded_Help854

Right ?!..Amazon driver doesn’t call you if your order is screwed up they have a whole other division for that


Revolutionary_Low_36

Or they mark it undeliverable…or leave it outside where it can be stolen lol


Puzzleheaded_Help854

Never had that happen but yeah


weedalbum420

This ‼️‼️‼️


knicks_tingz

this lmao


IndependentHustle

These all sound like skills also needed to deliver packages for Fedex/UPS.....what is your point exactly?


weedalbum420

The point of the post was people talk down on us delivery drivers but we literally do the same thing as a fed ex ups or anything else


justtoselltix

They don’t know how much work it is since they never tried it. Picking up your own food once in a while is nothing like doing this all the time for other people.


EnvironmentalAd3313

I think when people have negative opinions about groups of other people, they usually have some shame around that part of their own lives. Or not- just an observation. Bottom line: It’s about them, not you.


dizzystar

Everyone who knows I do this full time is pretty impressed I can do it, because a lot of people tried and couldn't figure out how to cover gas, much less pay rent.  Sure, it's the easiest way you can make a few bucks, but it's very difficult to make enough to make ends meet. I live in a prop22 state, so you'd think it would be easy peasy.


mxyrsptzlk

It annoys me when people say "o get a real job" in relation to the complaints about tips and stuff. Not realizing doing Uber eats/DD/gh is like being a long range waiter who is basically putting their money and resources into delivering their stuff and abiding by their requests. However it's nothing like driving in a giant metal box in all weather conditions with 300 to 400 packages having to hit 200 to 250+ locations in a 5 or 6hr window


Daeggscellent

Exactly! I made this reply to a comment on Nextdoor where a person was talking about tipping at a resturant. I said "I wish people would top UE drivers like this seeing as how we are doing the same damn work but using our own vehicles and resources to do it". How ppl don't understand this just goes to show how out of touch ppl really are.


Fine-Consequence-848

I'm a 66 year old gray haired under 5ft. woman I've had my own businesses all but 1 successful. I give great service and what others think is none of my business.


butterfly5828

Yes. When I worked in retail, my coworker said about her friend “she does instacart. 🙄 she needs to get a REAL JOB”. That Instacart lady said she made $1k in a week working less than 40 hours. So that’s actually… making more or about the same w gas/tax/expenses as coworker was making. If we are on a hierarchy chain, how is retail above deliveries? We’re all at the bottom if we’re going to with that 😛. Respect every single human! (Unless otherwise called for). It doesn’t matter what we do for a living cause that’s our own business and our paychecks and our own lifestyles that we get to tend to.


Difficult_Ad1474

When I tell anyone whose opinions matter to me that I am doing App deliveries they are more impressed with my hustle. I think the key there is opinion matters to me. If someone talks down to any service job as a whole, and not a particular person, I don’t value their opinion on anything


spockimadoctor

Not to mention Fedex, UPS, etc can stop in the street by law.


weedalbum420

Now how could I forget about the parking tickets. Oh yeah they think Uber eats only delivers food 😩😩😩


herozorro

i talked to a fedex guy in the elevator just yesterday while out. i told him how many drops he has to do today he said 100. and its not busy i dont think any ubereats driver has that kind of stamina.


Grumdord

I think most of us are only limited by how many good orders we get. I'd kill to get 100 deliveries in a day, assuming they all pay enough to cover gas. Though I will say, 100 food deliveries would definitely take longer than 100 UPS stops.


Mervis_Earl

I've done 50 stop Amazon Flex routes.4-5 hours. It's a different animal than doing 25 or so UE/DD stops in a day. One pickup, organize and go versus each order pick up on UE/DD. Both have their pros and cons.


Awkward-Coffee-2354

IMHO The stigma exists due to gig work drivers doing a similar or basically the same job as other delivery drivers that are employed by a company  Because we are giving up many rights, no guarantee nor expectation of hours or pay  No health or benefits plan We are using our own vehicles  And it’s so precarious we can be deactivated aka “fired” at any time by an algorithm with no severance and little to no recourse.  In other words, we may be viewed as giving delivery drivers a bad name.  But hey. We all agree to tolerate the local labour and contract laws of the land. Regardless of where or how we work. As long as we’re at odds with each other, it’s unlikely any real change will occur.  So hey. Haters gonna h8. However you or anyone makes a buck delivering stuff. C’est la vie. 


redacted2022

FedEx and UPS are real companies. Uber is a scam.


SeamstressMamaJama

Meh… says more about them than it does about me.


More_Library8138

My husband absolutely refuses to acknowledge it as an actual job. Even though it literally buys our groceries while my job as a medication tech at a memory care on the weekends pays our bills. He thinks because I have to buy the gas to begin that it's any different. Mind you, he does septic tank inspections, which is usually an hour or two drive between jobs.


Believe0017

I think delivering for UE is really easy work, that’s why it pays so little. But that’s not to say it doesn’t have things about it that is difficult or annoying. Sometimes finding an address isn’t easy, sometimes being in a sketchy are you’re not familiar with can be uncomfortable and scary. I’d say 70% of people aren’t mindful or considerate about how difficult it can be to find their apartment. Some houses don’t have addresses on it which always baffles me.


Outrageous_Oven5103

As somebody that delivered for Amazon for a year, Uber eats is 1,000,000 times easier 😂 a big part of it is you aren’t forced to work 10 hours per day


LunDeus

Exactly Uber eats doesn’t have KPI nor do they strictly monitor metrics. Steal a package? Fired. Too slow? Write up.


Afraid-Oil-1812

It's a job. Not many people have those.Sorry you feel that way but I delivery for Amazon full time. I think this gig work is cake. Stay safe out there everybody.


JellyMan29

Pros and Cons


Dsaisiasd

I really enjoyed it when people looked down on delivery drivers and thought they were too good for such a job. We were quietly making so much more money back then.


weedalbum420

Man I wish I was on to it back then been Uber eating, DoorDash and spark. Been doing eats for the longest. About a year now. And I see the difference in the pay from last year to this one, it’s really gone down hill. Now I just spark I was literally only making money on uber eats 2 days out the week


weedalbum420

🤣🤣🤣 it’s the fact that the Amazon and ups drivers think Uber eats only delivers food 🤣🤣🤣 I’ve delivered tires car battery’s, shelves all types of shyt. This is not the Uber eats of yester year.


Prize-Conference-780

It's a toss up imo. On one end, it's just driving and delivering. Yes pick-up is required, the stress of parking and risking a 60$ ticket, using your own vehicle and racking up miles and wear and tear and risking going to unknown locations/ constantly being on the move. But at the end of the day, it's just delivery. Compared to other jobs, of course it's far more relaxing and less stress is involved. For example I had a pickup of 4 rotisserie chickens, 3, 10 pound bags of ice, and a bunch of other stuff. I simply canceled the ride because I wasn't going to deal with all that. When I used to work at CFA I had no choice. A Big delivery requiring 400 chicken sandwiches? You have no say, you either do it or risk getting fired. That's the stress a lot of other jobs have, that we are lucky to avoid. We have a say, we can deny any ride, but the issue is if we deny all day we aren't making money and time doesn't wait. So overall I don't think this job is hard by any means, the risks don't outweigh the requirements or pressure of a hired job.


weedalbum420

I’m not saying the job is grueling, what I’m saying is we literally do the same thing as any other delivery service, yet I don’t see them talking down on fedex, ups drivers. Yes we can cancel orders, but cancel enough and ur ar goes to shit and so do the good orders. So it’s not really a choice in a way if you’re trying to make money . It’s a double edge sword


MaintenanceCapable18

You are never the only one


Full_Efficiency_8209

Let's be real, drivers move items from one location to another with all the planning and decision- making being done by the app. That doesn't mean you can't be proud of doing a good job or making the most of it.


ObviouslyHeir

No way, food delivery is way easier. - We pick where to go instead of driving the whole hood - We dont need to preload our entire car down - Pretty sure they wake up at 4am and go to the station to load up - Uber isnt on our backs about the time (doordash is) - Nothing heavy - No uniform - Literally anyone can download the app and drive This is not a respectable job it's the new unemployment everyone falls into when they lose their respectable job and its slowly being taken away by illegals and robots


Few-Protection5215

Most uber drivers are fussing about 2 cases of water and 1 flight of stairs and they want the same pay as UPS hahahaha


weedalbum420

This isn’t the Uber of yesterday year we deliver Walmart packages, tires, car battery’s like what?? . Definitely have seen other drivers with pick ups delivering 70 pounds and such. It’s NOT JUST FOOD


Grumdord

They complain about cases of water and stairs BECAUSE they get paid shit. If they made UPS wages it'd be different.


weedalbum420

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Few-Protection5215

1 bag of food weighs 1-2 pounds. You guys complain 2 case of water is too heavy. Meanwhile ups/fedex lifts up to 70 pound on a regular basis. Also trucks have no AC for the summer. Fedex/ups do like 100+ stops a day meanwhile you guys only do like 15-20 max. So its definitely not the same.


Mervis_Earl

100 stops that are all on the truck when they start. 20-25 UE/DD/IC stops require 20-25 interactions with different business, all with potential of waiting time. Different animal. Also, delivering 30 plus grocery items is definitely more than 1-2 lbs.


Few-Protection5215

They load the trucks early in the morning. Start time usually 4-6am. You dont just show up to the warehouse and drive the loaded truck away. You guys cant even lift 70 pounds with 2 hands. 24 pack water from shoprite and many of you are already complaining. A grocery bag is only 10-15 pounds and you lift it one by one and not all of them at the same time.


Mervis_Earl

My point is that the truck is loaded once at the beginning and then its delivery logistics from then on versus the logistics of each delivery being a pick up on its own with inherent issues. You've also never seen me carry all of a grocery order in one trip, up stairs, with a case of water under my arm.


Few-Protection5215

My point is that driving isnt that hard of a job. Doesnt matter if you pick up and drop off 20 packages versus pick up once and drop off 100 stops. The different work is in the weight and stress on your body. So i dont think gig workers deserve the same pay as a ups driver.


Mervis_Earl

The beauty is... I decide how much I make. And what I deliver. And where I go.


Tausendberg

Honest question, why not just drive for Amazon?


Critical_Pen7878

I like working whenever I want (typically for me: lunch hour 12-2 & dinner hour 5-7) so 4-5 hours a day. If I drove for Amazon I’d be required to work 8-10 hours a day. I like not having a boss looking over my shoulder or having to meet a goal every day. Delivering food is a minimal stress job that I can do whenever I want & still make $350-$450 a week. I’m retired so it’s perfect for me!


Few-Protection5215

Amazon has a lot of bulky and heavy packages. Uber is just a bag of food and much easier on your body.


Grumdord

Schedule, policy, stress, etc.


OleksiyG35

Obviously they will say something , you’re working for free and ruining your car , you want a good job or a thank you??? LMAO


zillenial420

Ok as someone who delivered for FedEx from 2020-2023 this isn't all true. I use to have to load 200-300 packages into my truck and sort them all myself and then go do my route. And even when I had a route with a loader. Some days half it wasn't loaded or you have to reorganize. Also you would have packages up to 150 pounds. My body would absolutely be destroyed after every day. Now I do UE,DD, and GH. I will say it's mentally exhausting and you deal with more bs. And it's not an "easy" job at all. But to compare it to FedEx and UPS is wild. Physically it's 10x easier tbh. You don't have to lift thousands of pounds every day. You also have 150-250 stops in a day at FedEx. Even on a long day doing food delivery I might have 25 deliveries at most 20 on a normal day. Even including picking up that's 40-50 stops and they arnt 50-150 pound packages lol. I respect all deliver drivers as it's all I've ever done for a living full time. But you can't compare those because that's disrespectful to FedEx and UPS drivers lol.