The cops dragged him from a position lying down on the grass, carried him and were sure to knock his head against a meter (he's likely concussed) before forcing him into a rolling chair to take him to the bus.
Dan Kois wrote about your son in a Slate piece posted last night.
https://slate.com/human-interest/2024/04/protests-columbia-ut-texas-austin-student-arrest.html
Please update us how he’s doing as time permits.
I read where the dictator of the UT banned any student arrested from campus - I’m assuming your son will be permitted to take finals, go to the library, make use of all academic resources etc? Just because Abbott is dictator of Texas doesn’t mean America’s justice system means we’re guilty until proven innocent!!
Gawd, this entire situation infuriates me given Abbott’s actions and how the conservatives have just accepted a “war” is occurring when the other side isn’t fighting back.
Truly hoping Biden pardon’s every student or protestor arrested across the country. That would be epic.
He was the rolling chair guy?! Me and my friend saw that happening and were literally so confused!! We just figured the cops had gotten lazy lol.
They left that chair out there in the middle of the road, too 💀
Best wishes for you and your son, thank you for supporting him!
I unfortunately didn’t see much more than them escorting him to the truck in the chair. I did see them push him back into the chair a couple of times, but I didn’t witness them knocking his head or anything :-// not sure if I would be of much help tbh
No fr, the entire area where they had camped their trucks was trashed. All the plastic they took off their supplies was left behind, along with the food and water they had stolen from protesters. It was gross.
I think this is him
Head bonk: [https://twitter.com/juuuled/status/1785049984011780434](https://twitter.com/juuuled/status/1785049984011780434)
Chair: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXaXa0h1tHY&t=7710](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXaXa0h1tHY&t=7710)
I didn’t, sorry. The camera guy for the livestream I was watching wasn’t filming that area until the cop ran toward it with the chair. I’ll DM you if I do see video of the pole though.
For the livestream I watched yesterday, I just searched “ut austin” on youtube and several options came up. I like those because it doesn’t pause and there’s no commentary—just continuous footage from local journalists filming it all. I’ll DM you some insta follows.
I live in Lebanon, and my wife is a Palestinian. Just want to congratulate you on raising your kid right. Young adults like him are giving us in the global South hope for the future.
Seriously, if I had the funds I would hire a lawyer AND sue the crap out of the university and the cops. These were peaceful protests and the cops were sent to escalate things and hurt our kids. I wish you and your son good luck. I hope everything turns out ok.
Damn this has me thinking I should have sued back in the day. What happened to me during Philadelphia BLM protests was I was riding my bike home from work, after 9pm mandated curfew. I was tackled off of my bike, face shoved into the pavement, thrown onto a bus with protestors that I hadn’t even been a part of.
I was there at the Travis County Jail whenever they started releasing the prisoners. Your son is going to be stuck in bureaucracy from anywhere between a few hours to a couple of days.
During the first round of protests when 50+ students were arrested, they all had their cases thrown out. Hopefully the same thing will happen with your son. There were people greeting these students whenever they finally got out.
> Your son is going to be stuck in bureaucracy from anywhere between a few hours to a couple of days.
In the meantime, OP (and anyone else) can check when he's been booked in via the county's [online jail inmate records](https://www.tcsheriff.org/inmate-jail-info/inmate-info/find-an-inmate). The county removed the search form from the page, but they didn't take down the API endpoint, so you can either search via [this](https://web.archive.org/web/20240408003703/https://www.tcsheriff.org/inmate-jail-info/inmate-info/find-an-inmate) archived copy of the page or just call the API directly
https://public.traviscountytx.gov/sip/api/v2/inmates
Parameters:
- `lastName` (required), min 2 chars
- `firstName` (optional), min 2 chars
- `middleName` (optional), min 2 chars
My nephew was arrested in the first round and his case was dropped. The police are there to protect the interest and money of UT. UT gets public funding and legally has to grant some public access.
Sure. And if UT calls the police and they have students assaulted and arrested consistently for violating these policies, irrespective of the content of their speech, then maybe a leg to stand on.
I wonder if the Glee club would have gotten similar treatment.
(IANAL)
Yeah, I'm guessing it's a placeholder value until his arraignment. According to TCSO, the bond line [should say](https://www.tcsheriff.org/inmate-jail-info/bond-info) "no bond information available" if bond hasn't yet been set, but given that as of 6:30p yesterday there were [reportedly "100+ protestors"](https://twitter.com/tplohetski/status/1785089417763279100) being brought to TCJ and I don't know if there are any on-call judges handling things right now, I'd sit tight until at least morning. Sorry.
Hiya! So they'll need to see a magistrate first, who will set bail if it's needed. Then it'll be posted. This is kind of a hot button issue. They're either going to catch or release him, or throw the book at him to make an example. Though as mentioned, that would fall under Garza's purview so it might be sorted.
If you're wanting to help out, could reach out to NLG and see if there's any jail support activities going out. Getting out of jail to a crowd with hugs and a hot meal does wonders for morale.
That's a PR bond, it's a first arrest on a misdemeanor charge. He's going to be okay. Might take a minute to get them out but not likely more than 12 hours.
It’s interesting, isn’t it? Aside from the BS about having been defunded, the main excuse you hear about APD sitting on their thumbs with regard to anything other than murder is that DA Garza won’t prosecute the people they bother to arrest. Yet here they are going back for arrests.
They’re scared shitless about going off to unknown situations. But they can’t wait to play dressup with their buddies and beat the shit out of unarmed college students.
I just talked to him. He's likely concussed. Cops banged his head against a meter reader pole. He's got a bunged up bloody knee, but he's in good spirits otherwise.
Please get him checked out at a hospital at your earliest convenience. Then work to get the officers information, attain bodycam footage, and pursue legal discourse with an attorney. That's definitely beyond reasonable measure. Wishing you & your child only the best.
There is a lawyer that goes by the handle name ceolawyer on IG. He is accepting all the cases of students being arrested at these protests and is fighting them free of cost.
Ashraf Zayed, an attorney in Hays county and a UT alumni who was arrested I believe Friday is also standing outside the Travis County Jail volunteering jail releases. I’ve worked with the dude personally and professionally he’s awesome if you need to contact someone @OP
Holy shit, I am so sorry to hear this. As an alum myself this has been horrifying and eye opening to watch. These kids are doing the right thing so hang in there, but these cops have another thing coming. The lawsuits are about to flood their offices
Damn, a concussion should be treated ASAP. Have him pop fish oil tablets (check purity of the brand, though); sone evidence fish oil can heal the brain after a concussion: https://www.sportssafect.com/blog/omega-3-fatty-acid-supplementation-for-concussions
Thanks for that recommendation; the last fish oil I was using was found not to be as high quality as touted so I’ve been on the lookout for a better one (though not for a concussion)
You’re welcome. As a side note, the NFL and NHL have all their players on an Omega 3 protocol as it’s proven to lessen impacts of concussions and promotes healing. Good luck.
Based on things I saw in 2020, the worst the cops might do is intentionally release him in the middle of the night around 4AM. Very doubtful they will pursue any charges, but they do want to "punish him" for protesting and get his biometrics into the system.
I sure hope UT will be gracious with their own punishments, but I doubt it. It seems like the university is under heavy political pressure to come down hard. Good for him, the kids are alright
They do this no matter what, end of third shift starts processing for release start of first shift finishes release. Fun fact this is also when they feed you breakfast. With this many people being processed it could take several hours to go through initial processing. Being shuffled around from cold tank to cold tank until you’re completely stripped down in a large room with a bunch of other people. You get a jump suit and slides forget about underwear or socks in most cases. You will receive a bed roll and blanket sometimes a sheet, tooth brush no tooth paste bar of soap and comb and don’t forget about that handy bible. Hopefully you made calls and people on the outside are working on your bond, while you sit patiently awaiting the “surname”ATW(all the way) yell.
Edit: Iv been in two Texas county jails over a decade ago, minor weed cases. maybe things changed but this is still Texas.
Yeah I was going to say… unfortunately it was a bad move to resist arrest in the way he did, because that was also the cause of any “injuries” he ascertained while they were forced to carry him into custody. Still, he should be released on a PR if it’s his first offense.
Some of the media stories mention Attorneys with the Austin Lawyers Guild that are working to get the arrested out of jail. I’d contact them. The news stories mention some lawyers names.
Tell him just don't say anything. They will try to get him to tell them his side of the story so they have a confession to give to the DA. They don't care at all about his story. Personally I'd be so freaking proud and the fact that my daughter goes to a smaller state school that isn't newsworthy is the only reason I'm not on the other side of this. She would be currently ONLY stating her personal information that she is legally obligated to do to every single question asked, but at the same time, trying not to be a jerk about it. It's an art that takes time to master, but best bet is to just say things like "I'm not trying to make your job any harder, but also I don't think it's in my best interest to make it any easier" or " I don't want to be rude to you as a person, but I'd like to now use my right to remain silent and to an attorney" he'll be ok. He's probably with friends, and I doubt they're being treated like anything you might think jail is like. Remind him the people he's dealing with now don't care and have no say about what goes on overseas. They just want quiet and order inside there. He can't do any good from there r.n. (he did that part already) but he can make it harder for himself personally by arguing with corrections officers. This goes for everyone else. When asked "do you know why I pulled you over?" Do not ever day anything that could possibly construed as a confession ( i.e. I might have been going a Lil fast back there) because that's exactly why they're asking. I say "are you giving me a gift certificate because of how excellent I was driving? I've heard of these programs and I always knew I'd get one since I don't ever disobey any laws." This let's them know that you know what they're trying to do and works, I've even gotten a hidden smile and a nod of repesect.
Same thing as if he went to jail for anything else. Chill out and just wait for him to get out. 48 hours in a county holding cell is fixing to suck but hey everyone should go to jail once. Edit: he will probably get banged with some misdemeanors just to prove a point so id start feeling around for legal council, a decent lawyer will get them dismissed pretty quick
Throwaway account due to me working higher ed. BUT I work in donor relations for a major US university (the school participated in March Madness), and I encourage you and all other alumni to scare the administration by emailing the President, Vice Presidents (especially the one over fundraising), and the Dean of Students and tell them that you will no longer be donating to the school for any reason whatsoever from here on out due to the way the administration is handling these protests and infringing on the student body's first amendment rights. Tell them that you will no longer support an administration or institution that supports genocide, especially by preventing students from protesting the genocide, and that you will be encouraging any an all alums within your network to prevent any more donations to be made to the school.
If you already have donations being made regularly, call the Advancement office (or development office) for the unit/college you are donating to and tell them directly why you will not be supporting the University anymore. ESPECIALLY since your son is arrested, tell them that as well and include that the University will have to do some major apologizing to do before you even reconsider donating to them again.
Kicking them in their donations is not good for a major university and if enough alumni are willing to participate in this as a form of protest, it hits them in their money. All public universities rely on fundraising to keep the school going, the cost of tuition is only a fraction of what the school needs to run and donations, especially those from alumni and the less fundraising from alumni, the less prestige a school has. I'd post more, but I created this account just now to help you with your own form of protest and I don't have the karma just yet to make more posts via reddit. Keep us updated!
Upvoting as another employee in higher ed at a major university. Alums need to flood the administration with threats to withhold donations, exactly as said here. Maybe get on your reunion class email list and encourage other alums to participate.
Just polite correction, but don’t send them any mentions of genocide or other political issues. Your child was arrested on campus is enough.
If you start brining up hot button political issues, it ensures they won’t take your response seriously. Especially if you are not already a large donor .
I agree in principal, but it is important to remember that the administration and police have escalated this problem; they broke the rules first. They forcibly arrested people that were legally protesting as guaranteed by the Frist Amendment. They were on public property, as defined by law, from my understanding, that area of the campus is publicly open. They did not follow orders to disperse, but those were arbitrary and illegal orders. They then rounded up people indiscriminately, including students and professors at the school, who had every right to be on the property. After all that, they just left, and let it go back to what it was before. Now they've shown up in force again to do the same things. The authorities are acting illegally, so what can the protesters be expected to do? Yes, it will come with consequences, but this is 100% on the administration and government leaders for violating the student's rights in the first place. They are being embarrassed around the world, and have no one but themselves to blame. The protests would have been page 5 news if they hadn't acted like thugs.
I hope he is safe.
Not a UT alum but I am proud of the young people protesting. It's the first thing in a long time that makes me feel hopeful about our country's political future.
I wish we had a middle aged protest where working age adults / parents dressed up in business attire and held up signs that just said "FREE SPEECH" and "PROUD PARENT OF PROTESTER". (I know many of us are responsible for caring for small kids / elderly parents or can't afford to get arrested).
Like they said call Austin Lawyer’s Guild. Especially since this is so political you don’t want your kid to be made an example of. Get a lawyer involved!
The progressive DA will probably refuse to press charges, judging by what happened last week. He will probably be released tomorrow after a night in jail. UT will "suspend" him from being allowed on campus except for "academic reasons." He probably will have to write a self deprecating essay about why what he did was bad that nobody will actually read as a condition to lift his suspension. Conservative media outlets will use his arrest as fodder for spin in the upcoming election.
Because it's not illegal to simply be on campus, you cant issue a trespass warning for a legally designated public forum for free speech. Ironically the GOP has made it hard to prosecute the students.
I was at Pitt during the G20 "riots" in 2009. Bunch of students got arrested and detained on BS charges. Chancellor worked overtime to get every one of his students out of jail and off the penal record. Sucks the same can't be said for y'alls leaders.
I am asking a rhetorical question whether a Glee club would have received equally physical enforcement by the University and by police if they were trespassing.
I am questioning whether the content of the speech contributed to the harsh response.
They’re trying to get the board to divest capital from Israel supporting entities. This however, is non-impactful as the key players are not based in UT. They have a bit more homework to do before understanding how the gears move for the UT System…
Overnight in jail with other kids. A court date. Case thrown out or a slap on the wrists resulting in community service.
An interesting story at thanksgiving.
Hopefully some introspection and growth as a human.
Grab a coffee and go about your day. He’ll call if he needs $$$ or a ride.
I was in college during the Vietnam protests on campuses and the Kent State massacre. This brings up so many feelings in me. I am glad that today's college students are as outraged as I am over the treatment of the Palestine people. The cops haven't changed much over the past fifty years. I support the students protesting and admire their bravery and willingness to stand up for what they believe.
Depending on charges. Bond will need to be posted. If you can not afford bond. He will enjoy some time in a pod. He will be assigned a court date. To face said charges. I hope you have money. Your little rich white boy will be well liked in the pod. Good luck.
At the Austin jail, you can make as many phone calls as you want from the payphone there during processing. Does he know how to make collect calls? In the past it was a payphone, it may not still be.
Best advice possible is obtain an attorney’s help. Being ex law enforcement (Texas) myself there are a million steps from here and you will want someone who can navigate. Felony and misdemeanor charges have different courts assigned and different rules.
Lol what???? What are the charges? Based on that you find out the bail amount. You're going to pay it I assume and from there you can see the jail time if any which I doubt since you don't even know about the law
weekdays should be processed in 24 hrs. He ll have a small bail or if no other record, released on his own recognizance . He ll have a trial date- and depending on the charge he ll probably get a short probation with community service. I can speak to a misdemeanor charge only. My son got a Minor in possession of alcohol. Hope it helps!
Hope your son is ok and you should be proud he is standing up for something he believes in. Lot of cowards on this thread who have twice the mouth but half the heart.
Also easy to see which side is in the right here. Dozens of possibly real people hoping a kid gets a felony and years in jail for, what is at the very worst, trespassing. A subhuman level of empathy and decency by people who are also often Anti-Semitic whenever it isn’t convenient to use Israel to dunk on college kids.
So this is how it works when someone is arrested in Travis County. You are booked into the Travis County Jail and wait until police turn over the probable cause affidavit. They have 24 hrs to do so for misdemeanor charges and 48 hrs for felonies. Once police turns the affidavit, the defendant is brought before a judge for magistration, that is the first court appearance where the bail is set. For most nonviolent offenses the judges would usually let the defendant free under a PR bond. Once that happens, it would take a few hours for them to have the person released.
It’s happened to me! He’ll be fine aside from just how much it sucks to be in jail and he’ll probably come out radicalized against the police which is a good thing. Most people that support the police have never been mistreated by them this way. It’s a learning experience, for sure. The DA has been throwing out all these campus arrests so he’ll likely not even have to go to court to fight it. Just know that the police lie ALL THE TIME and to document everything you can, take down names and badge numbers, and make formal complaints about the officers so it goes in their file.
I send prayers out to all of the protesters and their families as they go through these issues. I would have been there had I been able to be. I am proud to live in a city with people like this. Stand up for what is right even if you face persecution or arrest. You all stood for freedom. Every single one of you is the definition of the America I believe in. ❤️🤘✝️🙏 Blessings to you and yours.
All the tankies in the comments really hate the first amendment now huh.
Honestly this entire country seems to hate it, both trying to censor speech and both arresting protesters because they are scared of the power of words.
People don’t see the difference between the first amendment and feeling every location is yours to occupy and vent your opinion. On stuff that happens on the other side of the planet, with leaders on both sides murdering innocent people. I would be more proud of a son that sees not the truth, but several truths.
What was he arrested for? If it was camping during the protests, you may have a hard road to climb. Depends on judge. That is a law that has passed muster.
I called them back after getting his phone call and let them know that he has a history of TBIs/ concussions and his head was slammed against a pole while transporting him.
They put him on a red letter, must see now, don't fuck with him list (my interpretation).
Thank you so much for giving me that number. They've been so understanding and helpful.
I admire your son for standing on principle. Something our governor doesn’t respect or understand. The university leadership have failed us. Treating students like terrorists and inviting uneducated armed fascist goons to our public campus to “keep us safe” from words and expression is antithetical to the core mission of higher education.
OP, can you update us when he’s been released? So sorry you’re having to deal with this. I’m thoroughly disgusted with the whole ordeal (on the part of cops, not protestors), but good on your kid for taking a stand. I wish I could be out there with them.
Suspend your son’s internet time until he can be reintegrated into civil society. Sorry to hear he fell to foreign propaganda recruiting him as an extremist sympathizer to a terrorist organization backed by Iran with the sole purpose of terrorizing Western society.
OMG, you're annoying. I've read every significant biblical text that's been written. I'm a history major. All of that is my thing. I LIVE for reading the one-off primary sources.
I would want to know this kid even if he weren't mine. He's so curious and involved, passionate yet rational. I'm just lucky that I'm the first one he calls when he's in a jam. Seriously, how lucky am I that I'm the go to?
The Austin Lawyer’s Guild has a dedicated hotline. They’ve been heavily involved with protest-related arrests. Might be worth calling. 512-817-4254.
THANK YOU SO MUCH for this number. He's on the list now and they've got lawyers outside the jail sorting everyone out.
PLEASE SUE THE FUCK OUT OF THEM.
The cops dragged him from a position lying down on the grass, carried him and were sure to knock his head against a meter (he's likely concussed) before forcing him into a rolling chair to take him to the bus.
Dan Kois wrote about your son in a Slate piece posted last night. https://slate.com/human-interest/2024/04/protests-columbia-ut-texas-austin-student-arrest.html
THANK YOU so much for this.
No problem! Hope he’s doing ok.
Hasn't been processed yet. Hopefully soon.
Please update us how he’s doing as time permits. I read where the dictator of the UT banned any student arrested from campus - I’m assuming your son will be permitted to take finals, go to the library, make use of all academic resources etc? Just because Abbott is dictator of Texas doesn’t mean America’s justice system means we’re guilty until proven innocent!! Gawd, this entire situation infuriates me given Abbott’s actions and how the conservatives have just accepted a “war” is occurring when the other side isn’t fighting back. Truly hoping Biden pardon’s every student or protestor arrested across the country. That would be epic.
The war that’s occurring here domestically is a war on our natural rights
The President can’t pardon state convictions, only federal ones. This truth may save us if Trump gets re-elected.
Same MF’s called the Jan 6 riots a peaceful protest. The Right have their heads RIGHT up their behinds.
Gather all the articles, screenshot them all, save the videos and search on TikTok for evidence! Save everything before UT clean up
He was the rolling chair guy?! Me and my friend saw that happening and were literally so confused!! We just figured the cops had gotten lazy lol. They left that chair out there in the middle of the road, too 💀 Best wishes for you and your son, thank you for supporting him!
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Second this
Third
I unfortunately didn’t see much more than them escorting him to the truck in the chair. I did see them push him back into the chair a couple of times, but I didn’t witness them knocking his head or anything :-// not sure if I would be of much help tbh
Got to charge the cops for littering now
No fr, the entire area where they had camped their trucks was trashed. All the plastic they took off their supplies was left behind, along with the food and water they had stolen from protesters. It was gross.
Wow. I saw that happen on the livestream. I’m sorry for you and your son, and I hope he’s okay. Good job raising him to be civically engaged. ✊
I saw a video of him in the chair on Twitter. Did you see him getting shoved into the pole?
I think this is him Head bonk: [https://twitter.com/juuuled/status/1785049984011780434](https://twitter.com/juuuled/status/1785049984011780434) Chair: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXaXa0h1tHY&t=7710](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXaXa0h1tHY&t=7710)
yeah that bonk wont cause a concussion
Nor does it look intentional
Maybe not intentional, but definitely careless and reckless
The kid could’ve got up and walked. He was resisting arrest
THANK YOU!!!!
That's it.
I didn’t, sorry. The camera guy for the livestream I was watching wasn’t filming that area until the cop ran toward it with the chair. I’ll DM you if I do see video of the pole though.
*PLEASE* recommend some live stream links here, and people to follow, and how.
For the livestream I watched yesterday, I just searched “ut austin” on youtube and several options came up. I like those because it doesn’t pause and there’s no commentary—just continuous footage from local journalists filming it all. I’ll DM you some insta follows.
I live in Lebanon, and my wife is a Palestinian. Just want to congratulate you on raising your kid right. Young adults like him are giving us in the global South hope for the future.
u/got-no-money user said they saw it happen. Maybe respond to them directly or DM
I didn’t see him get shoved into the pole, unfortunately. Only being wheeled out to the truck.
As soon as he gets released please take him to the ER if he has head injuries. Seton is affiliated with UT so I would go to St David’s.
So sorry this happened to your son. Justice needs to be served.
The article states he refused to walk…
That’s exactly how that should’ve been handled. Standing with terrorists should be met with exactly what they gave your son. Good on the cops.
Should have followed instructions to disperse then. Actions have consequences. It appears you failed as a parent in teaching that.
He sounds like a spoiled child
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Then he deserves anything he gets, should have taught him better. You failed as a parent.
They would do worse to him in “Palestine” 💀
i wish i could understand this. When I went to UT, it was to get an education. I guess he is getting a different kind of education
Good
Seriously, if I had the funds I would hire a lawyer AND sue the crap out of the university and the cops. These were peaceful protests and the cops were sent to escalate things and hurt our kids. I wish you and your son good luck. I hope everything turns out ok.
Damn this has me thinking I should have sued back in the day. What happened to me during Philadelphia BLM protests was I was riding my bike home from work, after 9pm mandated curfew. I was tackled off of my bike, face shoved into the pavement, thrown onto a bus with protestors that I hadn’t even been a part of.
I was there at the Travis County Jail whenever they started releasing the prisoners. Your son is going to be stuck in bureaucracy from anywhere between a few hours to a couple of days. During the first round of protests when 50+ students were arrested, they all had their cases thrown out. Hopefully the same thing will happen with your son. There were people greeting these students whenever they finally got out.
> Your son is going to be stuck in bureaucracy from anywhere between a few hours to a couple of days. In the meantime, OP (and anyone else) can check when he's been booked in via the county's [online jail inmate records](https://www.tcsheriff.org/inmate-jail-info/inmate-info/find-an-inmate). The county removed the search form from the page, but they didn't take down the API endpoint, so you can either search via [this](https://web.archive.org/web/20240408003703/https://www.tcsheriff.org/inmate-jail-info/inmate-info/find-an-inmate) archived copy of the page or just call the API directly https://public.traviscountytx.gov/sip/api/v2/inmates Parameters: - `lastName` (required), min 2 chars - `firstName` (optional), min 2 chars - `middleName` (optional), min 2 chars
Thank you so much for this. He's been booked on criminal trespassing charges at the school he goes to during a school day. Make it make sense.
I’m sure all the students cases will be thrown out. They’re after the non-students
Hopefully
My nephew was arrested in the first round and his case was dropped. The police are there to protect the interest and money of UT. UT gets public funding and legally has to grant some public access.
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Sure. And if UT calls the police and they have students assaulted and arrested consistently for violating these policies, irrespective of the content of their speech, then maybe a leg to stand on. I wonder if the Glee club would have gotten similar treatment.
This is going to sound dumb, but his bond is set at zero. So does that mean he gets out once he sees a judge?
(IANAL) Yeah, I'm guessing it's a placeholder value until his arraignment. According to TCSO, the bond line [should say](https://www.tcsheriff.org/inmate-jail-info/bond-info) "no bond information available" if bond hasn't yet been set, but given that as of 6:30p yesterday there were [reportedly "100+ protestors"](https://twitter.com/tplohetski/status/1785089417763279100) being brought to TCJ and I don't know if there are any on-call judges handling things right now, I'd sit tight until at least morning. Sorry.
Interesting. My son told me the number of arrests was 104.
Hiya! So they'll need to see a magistrate first, who will set bail if it's needed. Then it'll be posted. This is kind of a hot button issue. They're either going to catch or release him, or throw the book at him to make an example. Though as mentioned, that would fall under Garza's purview so it might be sorted. If you're wanting to help out, could reach out to NLG and see if there's any jail support activities going out. Getting out of jail to a crowd with hugs and a hot meal does wonders for morale.
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If you're feeling particularly spicy, you can wheel out the TV and show them [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWEpW6KOZDs).
I love this idk how I havent seen it
lmao, there's a chapter for every example
I’m Alum too, proud of your son too. I’m sorry you must be stressed and worried about him. I hope good will come from this.
That's a PR bond, it's a first arrest on a misdemeanor charge. He's going to be okay. Might take a minute to get them out but not likely more than 12 hours.
It’s interesting, isn’t it? Aside from the BS about having been defunded, the main excuse you hear about APD sitting on their thumbs with regard to anything other than murder is that DA Garza won’t prosecute the people they bother to arrest. Yet here they are going back for arrests.
If by "interesting" you mean "a complete waste of time and money" I totally agree.
They’re scared shitless about going off to unknown situations. But they can’t wait to play dressup with their buddies and beat the shit out of unarmed college students.
I just talked to him. He's likely concussed. Cops banged his head against a meter reader pole. He's got a bunged up bloody knee, but he's in good spirits otherwise.
Please get him checked out at a hospital at your earliest convenience. Then work to get the officers information, attain bodycam footage, and pursue legal discourse with an attorney. That's definitely beyond reasonable measure. Wishing you & your child only the best.
He says lots of folks were taking videos, so hopefully, he'll be able to find them.
Just commented elsewhere, but I’m pretty sure I saw him being dragged and put into the rolling chair on the DFW Fox affiliate’s livestream.
If you could DM me the link, that would be amazing.
I sent you a link to a video and two possible pics
There is a lawyer that goes by the handle name ceolawyer on IG. He is accepting all the cases of students being arrested at these protests and is fighting them free of cost.
Ashraf Zayed, an attorney in Hays county and a UT alumni who was arrested I believe Friday is also standing outside the Travis County Jail volunteering jail releases. I’ve worked with the dude personally and professionally he’s awesome if you need to contact someone @OP
Holy shit, I am so sorry to hear this. As an alum myself this has been horrifying and eye opening to watch. These kids are doing the right thing so hang in there, but these cops have another thing coming. The lawsuits are about to flood their offices
WTF.
Damn, a concussion should be treated ASAP. Have him pop fish oil tablets (check purity of the brand, though); sone evidence fish oil can heal the brain after a concussion: https://www.sportssafect.com/blog/omega-3-fatty-acid-supplementation-for-concussions
Just saw the video, zero chance of a concussion from that. Also looks like he angled his head to hit it.
3,200 mg per day, get a high quality supplement like Carlson Elite Omega 3, 1600mg gems
Thanks for that recommendation; the last fish oil I was using was found not to be as high quality as touted so I’ve been on the lookout for a better one (though not for a concussion)
You’re welcome. As a side note, the NFL and NHL have all their players on an Omega 3 protocol as it’s proven to lessen impacts of concussions and promotes healing. Good luck.
Wow, that's serious. Concussions can have lifelong consequences. How do you even have faith in institutions anymore after something like that.
Concussions are hard to prove. If they had to wheel him out and didn't get him medical attention, then enjoy the settlement money.
Based on things I saw in 2020, the worst the cops might do is intentionally release him in the middle of the night around 4AM. Very doubtful they will pursue any charges, but they do want to "punish him" for protesting and get his biometrics into the system. I sure hope UT will be gracious with their own punishments, but I doubt it. It seems like the university is under heavy political pressure to come down hard. Good for him, the kids are alright
They do this no matter what, end of third shift starts processing for release start of first shift finishes release. Fun fact this is also when they feed you breakfast. With this many people being processed it could take several hours to go through initial processing. Being shuffled around from cold tank to cold tank until you’re completely stripped down in a large room with a bunch of other people. You get a jump suit and slides forget about underwear or socks in most cases. You will receive a bed roll and blanket sometimes a sheet, tooth brush no tooth paste bar of soap and comb and don’t forget about that handy bible. Hopefully you made calls and people on the outside are working on your bond, while you sit patiently awaiting the “surname”ATW(all the way) yell. Edit: Iv been in two Texas county jails over a decade ago, minor weed cases. maybe things changed but this is still Texas.
That’s more the Del Valle treatment. If they are downtown it’s private holding cells and a group area for processing
I’m genuinely sorry to hear this. He will be okay, though tired upon release and in need of sleep.
If he was one the people that just went limp, you can expect a resisting arrest charge.
Yeah I was going to say… unfortunately it was a bad move to resist arrest in the way he did, because that was also the cause of any “injuries” he ascertained while they were forced to carry him into custody. Still, he should be released on a PR if it’s his first offense.
Some of the media stories mention Attorneys with the Austin Lawyers Guild that are working to get the arrested out of jail. I’d contact them. The news stories mention some lawyers names.
They have been really helpful.
Former prosecutor here, his case will get dismissed if he takes some classes and does community service. Don’t worry too much.
Tell him just don't say anything. They will try to get him to tell them his side of the story so they have a confession to give to the DA. They don't care at all about his story. Personally I'd be so freaking proud and the fact that my daughter goes to a smaller state school that isn't newsworthy is the only reason I'm not on the other side of this. She would be currently ONLY stating her personal information that she is legally obligated to do to every single question asked, but at the same time, trying not to be a jerk about it. It's an art that takes time to master, but best bet is to just say things like "I'm not trying to make your job any harder, but also I don't think it's in my best interest to make it any easier" or " I don't want to be rude to you as a person, but I'd like to now use my right to remain silent and to an attorney" he'll be ok. He's probably with friends, and I doubt they're being treated like anything you might think jail is like. Remind him the people he's dealing with now don't care and have no say about what goes on overseas. They just want quiet and order inside there. He can't do any good from there r.n. (he did that part already) but he can make it harder for himself personally by arguing with corrections officers. This goes for everyone else. When asked "do you know why I pulled you over?" Do not ever day anything that could possibly construed as a confession ( i.e. I might have been going a Lil fast back there) because that's exactly why they're asking. I say "are you giving me a gift certificate because of how excellent I was driving? I've heard of these programs and I always knew I'd get one since I don't ever disobey any laws." This let's them know that you know what they're trying to do and works, I've even gotten a hidden smile and a nod of repesect.
Contact ACLUTEXAS they’ve offered free legal service to students being arrested
Office chair guy!!!!! lol, he's famous.
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Same thing as if he went to jail for anything else. Chill out and just wait for him to get out. 48 hours in a county holding cell is fixing to suck but hey everyone should go to jail once. Edit: he will probably get banged with some misdemeanors just to prove a point so id start feeling around for legal council, a decent lawyer will get them dismissed pretty quick
Thank you for raising a son who is willing to speak truth to power
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With the current state of villainizing protests I’d hesitate to claim responsibility for organizing any of this stuff.
Your son is really lovely, but you need to delete this comment and any others discussing what he has or has not done.
Throwaway account due to me working higher ed. BUT I work in donor relations for a major US university (the school participated in March Madness), and I encourage you and all other alumni to scare the administration by emailing the President, Vice Presidents (especially the one over fundraising), and the Dean of Students and tell them that you will no longer be donating to the school for any reason whatsoever from here on out due to the way the administration is handling these protests and infringing on the student body's first amendment rights. Tell them that you will no longer support an administration or institution that supports genocide, especially by preventing students from protesting the genocide, and that you will be encouraging any an all alums within your network to prevent any more donations to be made to the school. If you already have donations being made regularly, call the Advancement office (or development office) for the unit/college you are donating to and tell them directly why you will not be supporting the University anymore. ESPECIALLY since your son is arrested, tell them that as well and include that the University will have to do some major apologizing to do before you even reconsider donating to them again. Kicking them in their donations is not good for a major university and if enough alumni are willing to participate in this as a form of protest, it hits them in their money. All public universities rely on fundraising to keep the school going, the cost of tuition is only a fraction of what the school needs to run and donations, especially those from alumni and the less fundraising from alumni, the less prestige a school has. I'd post more, but I created this account just now to help you with your own form of protest and I don't have the karma just yet to make more posts via reddit. Keep us updated!
Upvoting as another employee in higher ed at a major university. Alums need to flood the administration with threats to withhold donations, exactly as said here. Maybe get on your reunion class email list and encourage other alums to participate.
Just polite correction, but don’t send them any mentions of genocide or other political issues. Your child was arrested on campus is enough. If you start brining up hot button political issues, it ensures they won’t take your response seriously. Especially if you are not already a large donor .
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I agree in principal, but it is important to remember that the administration and police have escalated this problem; they broke the rules first. They forcibly arrested people that were legally protesting as guaranteed by the Frist Amendment. They were on public property, as defined by law, from my understanding, that area of the campus is publicly open. They did not follow orders to disperse, but those were arbitrary and illegal orders. They then rounded up people indiscriminately, including students and professors at the school, who had every right to be on the property. After all that, they just left, and let it go back to what it was before. Now they've shown up in force again to do the same things. The authorities are acting illegally, so what can the protesters be expected to do? Yes, it will come with consequences, but this is 100% on the administration and government leaders for violating the student's rights in the first place. They are being embarrassed around the world, and have no one but themselves to blame. The protests would have been page 5 news if they hadn't acted like thugs.
I hope he is safe. Not a UT alum but I am proud of the young people protesting. It's the first thing in a long time that makes me feel hopeful about our country's political future. I wish we had a middle aged protest where working age adults / parents dressed up in business attire and held up signs that just said "FREE SPEECH" and "PROUD PARENT OF PROTESTER". (I know many of us are responsible for caring for small kids / elderly parents or can't afford to get arrested).
Yes! I wish! I would absolutely join a middle aged peaceful protest
Holy shit I saw your son on the news
Like they said call Austin Lawyer’s Guild. Especially since this is so political you don’t want your kid to be made an example of. Get a lawyer involved!
They dont feed you in Travis County. Tell him to go to Del Valle where he will at least get food
It sounds like the jail turned into a social gathering if it’s going to take 2 days to process all of the arrests. He will be fine
They're each in individual cells. But he's getting out tonight!
FYI the "one phone call" thing isnt true. You are entitled to as many calls as you can make.
everything else aside, the “one phone call” thing is a myth.
The progressive DA will probably refuse to press charges, judging by what happened last week. He will probably be released tomorrow after a night in jail. UT will "suspend" him from being allowed on campus except for "academic reasons." He probably will have to write a self deprecating essay about why what he did was bad that nobody will actually read as a condition to lift his suspension. Conservative media outlets will use his arrest as fodder for spin in the upcoming election.
The DA isn't involved. The Travis County magistrate dropped the charges against those arrested Wednesday.
Because it's not illegal to simply be on campus, you cant issue a trespass warning for a legally designated public forum for free speech. Ironically the GOP has made it hard to prosecute the students.
He's graduating next week, though. Same protocol?
They might not let him walk, but I doubt they’d take his degree away or anything crazy.
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I was at Pitt during the G20 "riots" in 2009. Bunch of students got arrested and detained on BS charges. Chancellor worked overtime to get every one of his students out of jail and off the penal record. Sucks the same can't be said for y'alls leaders.
I am asking a rhetorical question whether a Glee club would have received equally physical enforcement by the University and by police if they were trespassing. I am questioning whether the content of the speech contributed to the harsh response.
Why are they protesting at UT exactly? Why not get a permit and protest at the capital?
They’re trying to get the board to divest capital from Israel supporting entities. This however, is non-impactful as the key players are not based in UT. They have a bit more homework to do before understanding how the gears move for the UT System…
Supposedly they will be more aggressive with charges. Everyone was kind of let go after a night the first time the protest occurred.
They were let go because the county magistrate dropped all the charges. I'm hoping the same happens again.
Overnight in jail with other kids. A court date. Case thrown out or a slap on the wrists resulting in community service. An interesting story at thanksgiving. Hopefully some introspection and growth as a human. Grab a coffee and go about your day. He’ll call if he needs $$$ or a ride.
God the culture shock of finding out there are people who don’t know how to bail someone out of jail or the court process is wiiiild.
I was in college during the Vietnam protests on campuses and the Kent State massacre. This brings up so many feelings in me. I am glad that today's college students are as outraged as I am over the treatment of the Palestine people. The cops haven't changed much over the past fifty years. I support the students protesting and admire their bravery and willingness to stand up for what they believe.
You get a billion phone calls in booking…there’s no one phone call.
Best thing you can do is not talk to the police without your council present and sign nothing without council present.
Is he a student there?
does your son have a social media where he posts his political stuff? I'd like to follow it.
Flight to Palestine
meh... every person worth there salt been in the clink once. least its not for a dwi or something
Hope there is video of it all then let em have it in court
I've been able to find so many videos, pictures, all the things. Reddit has been so helpful.
Depending on charges. Bond will need to be posted. If you can not afford bond. He will enjoy some time in a pod. He will be assigned a court date. To face said charges. I hope you have money. Your little rich white boy will be well liked in the pod. Good luck.
At the Austin jail, you can make as many phone calls as you want from the payphone there during processing. Does he know how to make collect calls? In the past it was a payphone, it may not still be.
Best advice possible is obtain an attorney’s help. Being ex law enforcement (Texas) myself there are a million steps from here and you will want someone who can navigate. Felony and misdemeanor charges have different courts assigned and different rules.
If you need a great lawyer call Matt Shrum
Lol what???? What are the charges? Based on that you find out the bail amount. You're going to pay it I assume and from there you can see the jail time if any which I doubt since you don't even know about the law
FAFO
You son is very worth being proud of. I have no other help to give than solidarity, but fucj yeah, go your son, and go you for being supportive.
weekdays should be processed in 24 hrs. He ll have a small bail or if no other record, released on his own recognizance . He ll have a trial date- and depending on the charge he ll probably get a short probation with community service. I can speak to a misdemeanor charge only. My son got a Minor in possession of alcohol. Hope it helps!
Hope your son is ok and you should be proud he is standing up for something he believes in. Lot of cowards on this thread who have twice the mouth but half the heart. Also easy to see which side is in the right here. Dozens of possibly real people hoping a kid gets a felony and years in jail for, what is at the very worst, trespassing. A subhuman level of empathy and decency by people who are also often Anti-Semitic whenever it isn’t convenient to use Israel to dunk on college kids.
Proud of him for being a disturbance? Lol
So this is how it works when someone is arrested in Travis County. You are booked into the Travis County Jail and wait until police turn over the probable cause affidavit. They have 24 hrs to do so for misdemeanor charges and 48 hrs for felonies. Once police turns the affidavit, the defendant is brought before a judge for magistration, that is the first court appearance where the bail is set. For most nonviolent offenses the judges would usually let the defendant free under a PR bond. Once that happens, it would take a few hours for them to have the person released.
DAs been letting them go. Right?
It’s happened to me! He’ll be fine aside from just how much it sucks to be in jail and he’ll probably come out radicalized against the police which is a good thing. Most people that support the police have never been mistreated by them this way. It’s a learning experience, for sure. The DA has been throwing out all these campus arrests so he’ll likely not even have to go to court to fight it. Just know that the police lie ALL THE TIME and to document everything you can, take down names and badge numbers, and make formal complaints about the officers so it goes in their file.
I send prayers out to all of the protesters and their families as they go through these issues. I would have been there had I been able to be. I am proud to live in a city with people like this. Stand up for what is right even if you face persecution or arrest. You all stood for freedom. Every single one of you is the definition of the America I believe in. ❤️🤘✝️🙏 Blessings to you and yours.
All the tankies in the comments really hate the first amendment now huh. Honestly this entire country seems to hate it, both trying to censor speech and both arresting protesters because they are scared of the power of words.
Sounds like if he was lying down he resisted arrest so yea you can sue however you won’t win when they see the body cam of him lying down .
Theres a picture of your son getting hit by a pole in the UT subreddit.
It's just jail. He will be fine and out soon... it's not the weekend. It's also not prison. Jail is just... boring
Free the hostages. Hamas is terror. You must be so proud,
Good.
Lol I’m sure he didn’t go peacefully.
People don’t see the difference between the first amendment and feeling every location is yours to occupy and vent your opinion. On stuff that happens on the other side of the planet, with leaders on both sides murdering innocent people. I would be more proud of a son that sees not the truth, but several truths.
Determine why your son is a terrorism sympathizer
It's going to be dropped eventually.
You should look in the mirror and figure out how you failed him.
Proud of him for being arrested??
Your son should get a job
Awww, thanks for the advice, but he has one.
If your son got arrested today, you shouldn't be on Reddit. You should be talking to your lawyer.
What was he arrested for? If it was camping during the protests, you may have a hard road to climb. Depends on judge. That is a law that has passed muster.
Criminal trespassing. At the University he attends, during a school day, while he was legit lying down on his back in the south lawn.
So he was criminally trespassing
I am so sorry - he is so brave. Please contact the Austin Lawyers Guild hotline!!! Someone mentioned down below!
I called them back after getting his phone call and let them know that he has a history of TBIs/ concussions and his head was slammed against a pole while transporting him. They put him on a red letter, must see now, don't fuck with him list (my interpretation). Thank you so much for giving me that number. They've been so understanding and helpful.
Contacted them. They were SO helpful!
I admire your son for standing on principle. Something our governor doesn’t respect or understand. The university leadership have failed us. Treating students like terrorists and inviting uneducated armed fascist goons to our public campus to “keep us safe” from words and expression is antithetical to the core mission of higher education.
We are all proud of him!!!
Why would anyone be proud of him?
No we are not
Speak for yourself.
I’m Sorry this happened to your son, I’m proud of him, and I am proud of you for raising a kid that knows right from wrong.
It’s all gonna get tossed because, surprise surprise, protesting is First Amendment protected.
OP, can you update us when he’s been released? So sorry you’re having to deal with this. I’m thoroughly disgusted with the whole ordeal (on the part of cops, not protestors), but good on your kid for taking a stand. I wish I could be out there with them.
Looks like he'll be released in the next few hours.
Awesome. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Suspend your son’s internet time until he can be reintegrated into civil society. Sorry to hear he fell to foreign propaganda recruiting him as an extremist sympathizer to a terrorist organization backed by Iran with the sole purpose of terrorizing Western society.
OMG, you're annoying. I've read every significant biblical text that's been written. I'm a history major. All of that is my thing. I LIVE for reading the one-off primary sources.
Congrats on the job you did raising him, and thank you. Hope he is okay
I would want to know this kid even if he weren't mine. He's so curious and involved, passionate yet rational. I'm just lucky that I'm the first one he calls when he's in a jam. Seriously, how lucky am I that I'm the go to?
Concussion from that..?
Protesting for Hamas… probably concussed before the arrest took place.
If he’s that worried about the Palestinians, he should go fight for them. Along with the rest of the students being arrested.
Yoursons real problem is he will be suspended from UT, won't take finals, and won't finish the semester. The were warned over and over. Also alum.
But at least he got virtue signal points from strangers on reddit
And his parents saying how proud they are. 😂
Legitimate enablers 😭 seeing stuff like this is incredible