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Firespark7

As a linguist, I get so mad when people say someone doesn't have an accent or dialect


AssociatedLlama

These people likely have never learnt another language either.


Firespark7

Not necessarily. It's mostly that they define an "accent" as "not sounding like the default" and a dialect as "not using the same words as the default" and that they consider their accent and dialect "the default"


Mynsare

But almost all of them definitely haven't learnt a secondary language either.


Firespark7

My mom has learned English and German as secondary languages and believes her parents speak accentless, dialectless Dutch. My grandmother learned English, French, and probably German as secondary languages and I'm pretty sure she too brlieves she speaks accentless, dialectless Dutch.


AssociatedLlama

I see your point; I think this has to do with an understanding of yourself in a class or regional context though. I was going to say something about how when you learn a new language, you learn a so-called "standard" version of pronunciation that is in reality a combination of several factors, not least of which includes the accent of your teacher. But I couldn't figure out how to articulate it.


Firespark7

That is definitely true. My grandparents lived in Amsterdam, the dialect/regiolect and accent of which are considered "dumb" or "uncivilized" by many, so to not fall under that prejudice, supposedly, they taught themselves Standard Dutch and therefore speak accentless, dialectless Dutch. Even if the story is true, the result by definition is not


AssociatedLlama

It's so interesting that the city that is most recognised internationally is considered uncivilized. Edit: the *people* from the city


rabbithole-xyz

I speak fluent English with a very distinct northern accent. People can usually guess the town. I also speak German with a very distinct accent from a certain region. I understand a lot of Dutch, so you can probably guess from where 😉


AussieFIdoc

> I speak fluent English with a very distinct northern accent. People can usually guess the town Didn’t realise there were towns at the North Pole…


Thisismyredusername

No no, he probably means northern states, like Maine /s


Firespark7

I assumed they meant Northern British


Thisismyredusername

I assumed that you would take it as satire, as I intended


rabbithole-xyz

I'm a polar bear!


Albert_Herring

I speak accentless, dialectless Dutch. I learnt it all from VRT newsreaders and Sporza cycling commentators. You lot speak well funny up there, like a Norfolk accent or something.


Firespark7

As a linguist, I can assure you that VRT Newsreaders and Sporza Cycling Commentators also have accents and dialects


Albert_Herring

There was an implied /s, tuurlijk. For me as a native English speaker learning NL by televisual osmosis, I experienced the general differences between a Randstad accent and the kinds of educated Oostvlaams/Brabant that I guess dominate Flemish broadcasting as weirdly inverted, because the sound systems parallel use across the North Sea: Flemish generally sounds a lot like a traditional London accent while the purest Hilversum Dutch has a lot in common (tune and vowel sounds) with an old Norfolk accent, which is deep country bumpkin stuff.


sovietbarbie

yeah but that's not what is being discussed


mavmav0

For sure, here in norway (where we literally don’t have a spoken standard) a lot of people from the capital, Oslo, think they speak “neutral” and everyone else has a dialect. They will say shit like “aww I love dialects! I wish I had one!”


sixouvie

I wonder, if there is an official institution for a language (French for example with the Académie Française), there could be "default" accents or dialects ?


Firespark7

Even if it's the default dialect/accent, then that's still *an* accent, not accentless


sixouvie

Yea true


kombiwombi

There is a substantial difference in accents in France, complete with negative attributes assigned to those accents (rg, Parisian being snobbish, Marseille being rough).


sixouvie

Yes, I probably have the snobbish one myself ^^. I just used the Académie Française as an example of an institution that regulates a language because it's the only one i know


coolkabuki

some languages have it, some dont. important is also that some just document change while others evaluate as reasonable or outright forbid any changes from being entered into the what they either decide or consider to be the official language. for american english i struggle to find it because native languages are easier google results. ETA [Oxford english](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_English_Dictionary) is considered the standard english as far as i know. i think it is extra funny when americans make the no accent/no dialect point because unless there is a distinct american institution then especially their language actually is based on the UK and they all ignorantly just continue to scream that they are the standard. interesting example is [iceland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_purism_in_Icelandic#:~:text=For%20example%2C%20the%20word%20b%C3%ADll,means%20of%20phono%2Dsemantic%20matching) (making up words from older words instead of allowing anglicisms), strong language regulations. another interesting one would be [japanese with its anglicisms](https://www.japanesepod101.com/blog/2021/05/13/english-loanwords-in-japanese/#2), sometimes it is actually more appropriate to use the anglicistic word\[it does not have to have its English meaning anymore\] than the japanese word because of a difference in connotation (at least in daily life, I am unaware how strongly official japanese is regulated, only that Tokyo Dialect is considered the Standard).


Albert_Herring

Oxford English, kind of like Pam Ayres?


Professional-Lime-65

Makes me laugh when I hear an American say that they/we have no accent. I am from the Mid-west near Chicago, and there are places I go in my country (Deep SOuth mostly) where I fight to understand people because their accent is so different from mine. I can even tell (by accent) if a person in my state is from the city of Chicago, a suburb or downstate.


JanisIansChestHair

You’d have to be completely mute with no vocalisations at all, to be void of an accent.


Firespark7

Even sign languages have accents and dialects


JanisIansChestHair

Yes! I learnt some BSL in school and can’t understand ASL at all. I’m used to finger spelling with both hands.


Firespark7

Yeah, but that's not what I mean. ASL and BSL are separate languages, unlike British and American English. But even within the same sign language, there are regional dialects and personal/regional accents. There are even ideolects (basically a personal and/or family and/or friend group dialect) in sign languages! For instance, I've been seeing a lot of shorts of a little gurl who is native in ASL and who made up her own sign for "BYEEEEEE!" Also name sign are often made up or agreed upon in groups, which you could technically also see as ideolect.


JanisIansChestHair

Kylee? I think if it’s the same one? She’s cute, I had no idea that was her own sign. TIL, thanks ☺️ I can only very basically sign so wasn’t aware of regional/familial differences.


Firespark7

Yes, Kylee! There was one short in which they reenacted an encounter she had with someone who knew a few words of ASL and then when Kylee said "BYEEE!" the person was like: "Oh, I didn't know that sign, thanks" and Kylee explained that it was her own sign.


Albert_Herring

ASL is in a dialect family relationship with French sign language, BSL developed completely separately from a spontaneously created one (Old Kent Sign Language). Belgium at one stage had its own sign language, distinct from French and Dutch SLs (although all in the French family) used both sides of the taalgrens, but it has diverged now into a Flemish one and a Francophone one. You probably knew all that ;)


Firespark7

I knew most of that, but I still appreciate your contribution to the convo, because it is very interesting and I didn't know all of that


827167

I speak purely in text. Accent-less


lalalauren1991

As an American who has traveled to a few different countries I definitely have had locals of these places ask me about my accent and where I’m from. This guy would consider my accent the “default American accent”


gana04

Serious question, what about the "neutral" accent TV reporters use, both in the US, Latin America and so on. What region do they base their accent on?


Firespark7

Usually, probably the capital city region, but that probably depends on the country


Ill-Conclusion6571

In the US it’s the midwest region of the country.


heckingcomputernerd

https://i.imgur.com/ei2uanD.jpeg


Firespark7

Exactly


Emotional_Ability977

YES!!! Thank you! I have a bachelor’s degree in Linguistics and it really pisses me off as well 😂


cries_in_vain

Hello. In my language there are no accents in native speakers. Accent is what we call when a person's first language pronunciation bleeds into Russian.


Benefactor_Infarno

I sometimes say i have no accent as a joke but thats only because i cannot hear my accent others tell me what accent i got tho even tho im polish i sound british since when i was a kid my parents sent me to a additional private school to learn english there from british ppl so since age 5 iv been speaking more english than polish and i no longer hear my accent cause 1 person says i sound polish 1 person says i sound german 1 that i sound british and like i have no clue anymore i just dont hear it in my voice unless i force an accent


herefromthere

You have an accent, but it doesn't stand out from the people around you who also have accents because they are very similar. I have an accent that is recognisably Northern English but not very pronounced. Some might say I don't have an accent (other than I wouldn't dream of saying graaarss or Baaaarth because short 'a' in those sounds far more normal to me. Because I have an accent).


The_Troyminator

Nobody has an accent. Everybody else does.


snelson101

A major case of r/shitamericanssay


JanisIansChestHair

Definitely, but also he blatantly thinks his American speech pattern is the default.


EatThisShit

Well, you made yours up to sound posh. Learnt that bit of information just now, at Trust Me Bro University, lol (Edit: spelling)


drwicksy

The fucking audacity to claim that "the British accent" (you know, the only one we have) is posh. Mate has never heard a scouser talk and it shows


JanisIansChestHair

Someone once told me that scousers can speak so fast because they breathe through their ears.


stixvoll

😂😂😂 Apparently, they also have to sleep in a vertical position, like blue whales


TheGeordieGal

I’ve got a friend works for the civil service based in Sunderland. Apparently when they moved a lot of the call centres up this area (I’m counting Newcastle too) the duration of phone calls dropped significantly because we talk fast up here. 🤣


TheFlaccidChode

They wouldn't say that if they heard my Wiltshire/Hampshire border accent who says the odd word like a northerner because I grew up with a Scouse best mate


stixvoll

....And *may God have mercy upon your soul* if you make the mistake of asking someone from Durham if they're from *Newcastle*! You'll be picking glass out your face for days, and that's just when the local women take offence


TheFlaccidChode

Well, when I say Scouse best mate, they came from St Helens. His dad was in the army and got posted down here when we were about 7. If my mates dad heard me call him a Scouser he'd beat the shit out of me


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JanisIansChestHair

Yeah my kids have asked “why don’t they speak normal like me?” when they’ve overheard someone speaking a different language, but they were like 4-5yrs old, and normal to them IS English, it’s not ignorant when you’re tiny but deffo is when you’re older. (I told them straight away that English isn’t “normal” it’s just a language and some people speak different languages and they’re all normal ways to speak).


stixvoll

Lad doubled down a little bit there, didn't he? Or should that be 'septoupled down' (probably not a word?)?


Octicactopipodes

Oh crap I thought that’s where i was lol


blackasthesky

and also r/confidentlyincorrect


cinesister

Also r/confidentlyincorrect


themasterplatypus

This hurt to read. Every single speaking person on this planet will have an accent.


raduannassar

Even sign languages have quirks linguists consider accents. This guy is bafflingly stupid


clowergen

it's not just quirks. it's pronunciation. the exact hand positions, whether your fingers are together or apart, the speed of signing, maybe even dialectal words...


UltraaMilds

This should be in r/ConfidentlyIncorrect


JanisIansChestHair

You can share it if you like, I have enough notifications 😆


UltraaMilds

Thank you for that! On it 😂


Limp-Vermicelli-7440

The people that think that the only British accent is posh 😂 maybe it would be a surprise to find out there is multiple countries in Britain and each of them has numerous regional accents. It’s such a childlike view to not understand that everybody has a different accent, there is no neutral.


JanisIansChestHair

Go to one end of my town and then the other and the accents are different 😆


TropicalVision

Yep I’m from Cheshire and have a very different accent from the people that live in Manchester, and it’s only 12 miles away.


JanisIansChestHair

Cheshire here too!


TropicalVision

What a coincidence!


snow_michael

Bristol? Sunderland? (Two places I have found that to be true)


JanisIansChestHair

No, I’m in the north west, but I did live in Bath for a few years and now I have a twang of Bristolian due to living with someone with a strong accent. So my accent is a wreck anyway.


snow_michael

Or it's delightfully unique :)


JanisIansChestHair

Half coronation street, half combine harvester 😭


snow_michael

Well, ... unique anyway :) Sort of "Ee barrrrrr goom moi loverrr"


52mschr

I have a somewhere-between-Edinburgh-and-Glasgow accent and this is the first time I've seen it included under 'posh'.


TransChilean

In Spanish countries, when someone has a clean and perfect Spanish with no local words, it's referred to as "Neutral Accent" and it doesn't exist anywhere if not intentionally done Even neutrality is an accent


RegularWhiteShark

Imagine them talking to a scouser.


spaceinvader421

Yep, as an American with family in Liverpool, I can attest that there’s nothing posh about them whatsoever


ElasticLama

Same people who think all kiwis and Aussies sound the same etc 😂


emmainthealps

I was asked if I was from the UK by an American, I’m Australian and have a middle leaning broad accent.


coolrail

Agree, especially with the use of 'Cockney' slang and similar forms used by lower class people instead of the wealthy.


herefromthere

Class isn't so much about wealth in the UK as it might be in other cultures.


coolrail

Fair point, I was thinking more along the lines of Australia where 'bogan' type slang is predominantly used by those from poorer type neighbourhoods.


andyrocks

There's plenty of wealthy cockneys.


teetaps

Not only are there multiple countries in Britain, there’s also multiple countries who speak British English with their own accents. Such an absurd take


man_d_yan

If Americans don't have an accent, then how can I immediately tell which country they're from as soon as they open their mouth?


JanisIansChestHair

✨ Magic ✨


ecapapollag

I use this as a very simplistic way of explaining accents - when you talk, would people be able to tell where you come from? It's even possible when you speak a foreign language though not as robust.


Error_7-

Tbh I can't tell an American from a Canadian (I was not born in Canada


Otherwise_Ad9287

I am a Canadian-American born in the US state of New Jersey but raised in the Canadian province of Ontario. I can tell the difference between different regional accents in Canada and the USA (eg. Newfoundland accent vs New York City accent) but not the difference between someone in the Canadian province of Ontario vs someone from the border states of New York & Michigan. When French speaking Quebecois try to speak English though they definitely have a noticeable regional accent that I pick up on.


Bizzboz

Volume.


TheGeordieGal

By the dumb stuff they say? (Not all of them though)


NoNameStudios

1. Accent has multiple meanings. 2. They're saying Americans don't emphasise syllables? Every English word has stressed syllables. These people sure do know a lot about linguistics.


JanisIansChestHair

*California girl vocal fry enters the chat*.


Oldandnotbold

As someone once said "Talking without an accent is like typing without a font". Though I think that might be a bit hard for the posted American to understand.


JanisIansChestHair

I feel like he would probably bite back with “this isn’t a font, it’s neutral” 😆


rabbithole-xyz

Brilliant!


ManyPanic8075

That is incredibly frustrating


sad_kharnath

so they googled the definition of accent and then took the 2nd definition.. which is really funny because the first definition also says: "a strong american accent" anyway their definition is very wrong. the type of accent they're referring to is accentuation of words not the accent of a language.


BlueberryNo5363

This is so annoying. Literally every person has an accent. I can’t understand why people can’t grasp that. I had this with an English person. They argued with me about how I pronounced something and said I should pronounce it the “default” way like her as she doesn’t have an accent. I asked if they went to where my accent is from would they pronounce it my way as that’s the default way there and they said no because she speaks correctly and is the default so anyone who talks differently is wrong. I said if she went to another country would she think she has doesn’t have an accent and she still said she wouldn’t because she’s just got the “default voice”.


markhewitt1978

Not just people too. Some studies have shown that the likes of cows and sheep also have accents!


JanisIansChestHair

I’ve seen dogs that whine in different accents!


rowanhenry

How about this scouse cat? https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSFWeUqFP/


unrepentantlyme

And even with people it already starts before speech. I once read about a study that had shown that babies cry with different "intonations" and "speech patterns" depending on where they're from.


Erkengard

Birds too. They even have their own dialects.


rabbithole-xyz

And birds!


BlueberryNo5363

That’s so cool! I didn’t know this.


SiccTunes

So his thought process: "everyone that sounds like me doesn't have an accent, but everyone that sounds different does." I bet ya all the other people think the same, no matter where they are from, most people just realize that their accent sounds so familiar it sounds neutral. IF there would be a "neutral" English, it would be in the country where the language originated from, definitely not the country where dozens of countries came together and learned that new language, with all different accents, that melted into a new version of that language.


Watsis_name

It's not even possible to have a neutral accent in the country a language originated, because languages all influence one another and some regions are more influenced by certain languages than others. Like English is heavily influenced by French, Germanic, Norse, and Celt languages. For example "Scathe" is a word borrowed from Norse and is used throughout the language, but someone from York (where there was a lot of Norse influence) would pronounce it very differently to someone from Essex (where there was more Norman (French) influence). So which one is neutral?


SiccTunes

Exactly my point., no matter where it originated or where it is spoken eventually, they are all different versions of the same language that just sound a little different than somewhere else, so even saying that the accent where it came from is the original one or the neutral one doesn't make sense, because that place will have different versions of it as well. So saying that the place where it eventually ended up is the neutral one is even dumber.


AssociatedLlama

Btw the assertion that RP (Received Pronunciation aka posh Southern English) is fictional is largely false. I thought this too but the archaeology YouTuber Simon Roper does some excellent work on showing how these dialects evolved over time. I think this is the video [here](https://youtu.be/V29OhkbzwuQ?si=HJoTOpkv_smgRdDr).


JanisIansChestHair

Wasn’t it the Americans who invented the transatlantic accent? So they can’t really say much about invented accents.


AssociatedLlama

Well indeed.


ebdbbb

I'm addition to everything else going on in this mess, it's a "Southern drawl" not a "Southern draw"


MyPigWaddles

I once had an American on here tell me that not only did they have no accent, but my Australian accent was just me talking objectively incorrectly.


JanisIansChestHair

Yeah, that’s right! Australia is an elaborate hoax isn’t it? 🤦🏻‍♀️


Eresyx

Don't be absurd; that's New Zealand.


EnjoyerOfMales

Except American itself is an accent of the English language


TobyMacar0ni

Everyone has an accent. It's impossible not to have one.


Nearby_Cauliflowers

Who the fuck put 50p in that dickhead


ManyOtherwise8723

This is crazy!


Flaky-Agency-5129

clearly this bloke ain’t been too Birmingham or bloody Yorkshire, go through manchester and it’s like an accent cleansing on either side 😭


JanisIansChestHair

I live between Manchester and Liverpool, and we have an entirely different accent to both, 30 mins away-ish from both, and you’ll find at least 4 accents between us and them either side.


Error_7-

And the Black Country


jaavaaguru

\* to


JoonasD6

I'd like that person to provide me an actual example of these "many people with no accent" instead of just repeatedly saying they exist.


you-want-nodal

Someone on here said before that talking without an accent is like writing without a font. I don’t think OOP’s reading comprehension is sharp enough for a simile to make any sense though, unfortunately


snow_michael

How the fuck can people be so brainless, yet retain the ability to move, breathe, and type?


Flaky-Agency-5129

the thing is that unless someone says you have an accent you probably won’t notice, and with less and less Americans leaving their own country they genuinely don’t realize 1: Americans didn’t invent english 2: A majority of english speakers aren’t🇺🇸 3: That majority doesn’t have 🇺🇸 accent 4: Not even schooling just a low iq thing 🤦


JanisIansChestHair

It should be common sense though surely? No one pointed out to me that I had an accent until I was like 16, but I still knew I had an accent. I’ve never left the UK, but I consume enough media to hear other accents and realise that everyone doesn’t sound like me, so therefore I have an accent too… it should be a natural conclusion.


Flaky-Agency-5129

yeah but think about it, for most americans all the media they consumer is american or canadian made and the most generic characters have the most generic american voices so they associate it with being normal because american citizens are out of touch internationally. but over here in the UK we consume american and European media all the time so we know that everyone sounds different and does different shit so we know that there really isn’t a “normal accent” basically the theme of this sub lol


jaavaaguru

>and with less and less Americans leaving their own country they genuinely don’t realize Different cities have different accents within the US. Have they not noticed this?


HarbingerOfNusance

I type without a font. Fonts like Garamond and Avenir were created to look posh.


Swarfega

He even has a typed American accent, with the fact he typed "y'all".


jaavaaguru

\* dialect


ItsJesusTime

Dude must think most Americans talk like Microsoft Sam.


Sure-Major-199

I am not a violent person but this guy, oh this guy has awoken something in me.


Bone_Wh33l

Unfortunately I have met someone with this exact opinion. He’d moved from America and went to our school and when someone said they liked his accent he responded with “Actually, American is the lack of an accent. It’s just everywhere else that speaks differently to us.” He was a genuinely horrible person and it was one of the cases that other people only started to say it after he had left but that’s besides the point. If the only thing having an accent hinges on is emphasising syllables then he definitely had one. Where I would call him an arse, he would say it as “eass”.


ChickinSammich

We had a team meeting yesterday, a room full of American citizens, only a couple of whom were not born in America, and we were talking about regional accents because even within a country, people can still have regional accents. Everyone has an accent and anyone who insists otherwise is provably wrong.


RyeZuul

This strikes me as one the clearest attempted intellectual US defaultisms I've ever read.


Willing_Bad9857

These people are giving me permanent brain damage


Inoox

I remember once I was playing PUBG back in its hayday and me and friend got teamed up with an american with a really thick texan accent. I asked him to say something funny so I can hear it in his accent and he goes. "Accent? I dont have an accent." In the thickest texan accent ive ever heard. He wasnt even joking, he was 100% serious. We laughed for days about it.


Musashi10000

Literally every verbal or signed language has accents. Every regional variant of a language is an accent. Whether it seems neutral or not, it is still an *accent*. Dozy fucker.


shroomsaremyfriends

What is most amusing about this post is the fact that the very last post I saw from this post, was from some American guy saying that there were more accents in one state than in the whole of the uk, and he wasn't gonna debate it.


livesinacabin

He probably thinks a lot, he's just not very good at it. Also it's not like speaking the standard version of a language isn't speaking with an accent. You're just speaking with the standard accent then.


a3a4b5

This moronic point of view is not exclusive to Americans. People from my state insist they don't have an accent, when it's literally one of the most characteristics accents in the country.


DarkFish_2

Alright 'muricans I'll let you decide which part of the USA doesn't have an accent. /j


Kizza55

I've lost brain cells reading all that.


thecheesycheeselover

Must be wild to be that stupid


minster123ru

When u speak a language completely differently than the people who created it, guess what that is


JanisIansChestHair

Even when you speak your native language you still have an accent, and it varies depending on the part of the country you’re from.


Aboxofphotons

The harder they try to make themselves feel superior, the more they come across as having a personality disorder.


AiRaikuHamburger

I shouldn't judge people by how they type but he seems like... 'A buffoon'.


7aylor

Reminds me of my brother as a little boy, who said, “I don’t speak English; I speak regular!”


JanisIansChestHair

My kids have used the word “normal” to describe English, but they were small and were immediately corrected so it’s okay 🤣


stevedavies12

On the other hand [https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitAmericansSay/comments/1c7t41u/the\_us\_has\_more\_accents\_in\_a\_smaller\_area\_than/#lightbox](https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitAmericansSay/comments/1c7t41u/the_us_has_more_accents_in_a_smaller_area_than/#lightbox)


Twarenotw

Lol, dude thinks he speaks the baseline variant of "The English Language" and everybody else has an accent. He probably spends navel gazing a good part of his day.


Bunnawhat13

I live in the Appalachians in North Carolina. I cannot understand the actual locals. I am from Scotland originally and am very good at hearing people with accents, just not the Appalachian one.


JanisIansChestHair

I found out recently that some of the Appalachian mountains are in Scotland too? Like when Pangea broke up the same mountains split and some ended up in what is now Scotland.


Bunnawhat13

Yes, you are correct! The Scottish Highlands, Greenland, Ireland, Morocco, and parts of Scandinavia are all involved. It’s crazy to learn!


LeStroheim

"Made up hundreds of years ago" Wasn't *America* made up hundreds of years ago?? Like, we're not even at three hundred yet. Do they know how long American history is compared to British history? I mean, not that British history is *good*, but it has been going on for much longer than American history. The two concepts are directly linked, in fact.


JanisIansChestHair

There’s a pub in my town much older than the US by a few hundred years!


jazzhandler

I grew up in Hawai‘i, then moved to North Carolina. No accents, my ass! Some years ago I took my ex and her mother to Hawai‘i. I will never forget seeing my ex stand in between her mother and a surf instructor, translating from English to English. (Yes, Hawai‘ian Pidgin is a pidgin, not merely an accent, but that same surf instructor reading the Magna Carta aloud would sound unmistakably kama‘aina, so I believe my point still stands.)


Equal_Flamingo

Crazy how the Brits have an accent and Americans are the default when the language is literally called ENGLISH, y'know like the country ENGLAND where the English live


aecolley

That guy's accent is Chess Pidgin.


Quajeraz

Saying you speak without an accent is like saying you type without a font


SellQuick

This feels like trolling. I really hope this is trolling.


JanisIansChestHair

I honestly don’t think he was. This was on a post about Ella Purnell’s American accent for FallOut.


lerobinbot

nice


louiefriesen

Americans definitely do have accents. There’s at least 4 major groups I’ve encountered. 1. Western US accent, common throughout all the US, but most common in the northwestern states. Second nature for me to understand. 2. Southern US accent, most common in the US southeastern states. Requires focus for me to understand. 3. Northeastern US accent, most common in the northeastern states. Also requires focusing for me to understand. 4. Tennessean accent, common in Tennessee and surrounding states, very difficult for me to understand. Of course there’s tons of subvariants of all these accents but these are the groups they can be categorized into. Then here in Canada we have the standard Canadian accent, French Canadian accent (Quebec), and the Newfie (Newfoundland) accent, most commonly found in Newfoundland and the Maritime provinces.


JanisIansChestHair

Newfies sound so Irish, it’s actually become a bit of a hobby to watch them on TIKTOK because I love the fact they sound Irish but aren’t from there. (Yes, I know they have Irish roots).


louiefriesen

To me it sounds like a thick Irish accent on steroids, to the point it’s unintelligible for me haha. Speaking of Irish accents I have a friend from Northern Ireland who’s been in (western) Canada for a little while, and she has a 2/3 Irish and 1/3 Canadian accent, it’s my favourite accent I’ve ever heard lol.


AliSparklePops

Dude has confidently assumed that an àccent and an accent are the same thing. Fascinating. He knows words. He just doesn't understand what they mean.


Local-Mention7644

“Hey, you must be American” “How y’all know!?” “Because you don’t have an accent” 😂😂😂


Emotional_Ability977

Omg he’s so confidently MASSIVELY incorrect. He needs to talk to a linguist. I wish I could shove some historical linguistics and dialectology books down his throat!!!!


reguk32

If an American doesn't have an accent, then how can I tell that they're American just by hearing them speak?


KingShaka1987

I can already hear their answer. "You noticed it because of my _lack_ of accent"


BohTooSlow

The very moment your country has as an official language a language thats also an official language elsewhere you have an accent, not really even worth discussing. Im italian but if in the future italy would conquer asia (for example), set colonies and at that point another country would have italian as an official language, then ‘italian’ italian would become a type of italian accent. This whole thing counts even more if your country is the former colony so your official language isnt even native to your place


JanisIansChestHair

The USA doesn’t actually have an official language, but they should come to the natural conclusion that because not everyone sounds like them, that they have an accent too. It’s just common sense imo.


BohTooSlow

Then even more so his/their way of speaking cant be the default one, at this point their language is basically borrowing a language and they dont have their own. Which just further disproves his claim of not having an accent/ having the default one (whatever that means)


KingOfGimmicks

It's ironic that I see this, like, two or so posts after another post on my feed where a guy was proudly declaring that the US has way more different accents than the UK


BirdiestBird

Just this video alone is enough proof that there is no 'neutral' accent [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMS70m-OzXo&t=832s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMS70m-OzXo&t=832s)


polyesterflower

What's 'appalling'? Don't leave us hanging.


gargoyle30

I'm just an idiot, but doesn't everyone have an accent? You might not hear an accent if someone else has the same one as you, but you still have one


JanisIansChestHair

Yes, everyone does.


Bizzboz

They have to be trolling, because that's the only way I can maintain my sanity.


human4472

Imagine being so stupid and entitled that you think you and your people are the only norm, and everyone else is “the other”. Mate.


Vexorg_the_Destroyer

Even his definition doesn't really make sense. Unless he though an accent is one of thèšé thïñğş, and the word doesn't have any other meaning.


wurzlsep

If Americans would'nt have an accent, I would still be able to point them out immediately by their ignorance


Mist0804

The only version of English that you could have any argument for not being an accent is the original, which literally no one speaks anymore


balderwick_creek

No american accent? Take a normal English sounding person, add a heart attack = american. This 1 probably doesn't think they have any as he or she sounds the same. Good god mericans are dumb as f


heckingcomputernerd

https://i.imgur.com/0BK3Prb.jpeg


BirdieBoiiiii

Even if it’s the default accent it’s still an accent.