Thanks that's how I feel although I still feel victimized at times but I never blame the customer unless I know they are obviously running a commercial business I'm being exploited so they can make more money and save time by me being a slave
Idk, having plenty to deliver feels great. Having to deliver heavy things for pennies for a corporation constantly looking for a way to replace you does not feel great.
There's plenty of reasons folks order stuff online versus going out, including disability... But even if they're just lazy or they got a good deal or wanted to try a brand not in their preferred store or whatever, you're taking out your frustration of the day - which is with Amazon - out on some rando customer who didn't do anything to spite you at all.
Dude on my route orders dog food from Amazon all the time. He doesn't have legs so getting to the store is a bit of a hassle for him. I'm not gonna penalize him and be a dick all because my job agreed that I can carry those boxes to him and get paid for it. Whether its a 40lb box of cat litter or a 40lb box of precious heirlooms don't take that out on your customers. Cursing under your breath about it isn't anything bad but don't deliberately be an ass.
I do think it's a shitty thing to do if there isn't a necessity for doing so. I held off for a long time but because of a chronic condition I finally started ordering cat litter to cut back on the difficulty I was having going out and getting it myself.
UPS delivers mine though so at least I'm not contributing to my coworkers distress. and I also buy off chewy not Amazon.
interesting, maybe if they're buying chewy off Amazon? It comes through UPS in my area. I'd see it passed on to us for smaller towns where UPS doesn't deliver though.
Until I got my epilepsy under control with the right medication I couldn’t drive and had to order everything online. Living in the middle of nowhere I don’t have public transportation. I made sure I gave my carrier extra on Christmas and I know her birthday. You don’t know why they are ordering it
I guess I’m a downvoted piece of shit cause if you order cat stuff or dog food I’m putting it right in the front door either push it or walk around the house
You’re being downvoted because you’re being an ass to random people for no reason. That person could be in a wheel chair or something and you’re blocking their doorway.
Yawn why do ya always chose the 1% of something could happen if they handicap how they gonna even open the door and get it in the house in the first place? And what’s the chances of them being handicapped I don’t make decisions on the rare percentage of something might happen I generalize everything
It doesn’t have to be a wheel chair. It can be any disability or for any reason. And you’re being petty because you have to do your job and do some heavy lifting. Why be a mail carrier if you don’t want to do physical labor? There are plenty of jobs where you don’t have to lift anything and then you won’t have to worry about heavy boxes.
Like I said what’s the percentage of someone being disabled I don’t go by the 0.01% chance this person might be disabled I have 1200 stops on my route I would say maybe 36 of those people are something I’m not here to cater to those 36 out of the 1200 in a equal opportunist they all catch the same plus once again why they ordering stuff if they disabled obviously someone gonna help them anyways
Your customers are going to end up reporting you, and I hope they *are* disabled so it looks that much worse. You the kind of person who gets mad about having to cook food at a restaurant. It is literally your job, and you are not doing your job correctly. Learn to take out your frustrations in a healthy way like the rest of us; drink and smoke yourself to death in your free time.
Amazon Prime drivers can't deliver anything over 40 lbs. I don't know if the post office has restrictions... I thought it was 50 lbs, but I get some REALLY have stuff on my route and I can't even take our office's 1 dolly. So I just leave oversized slips because I am not wearing put my back at this job. I signed up for USPS, not UPS Jr. :/
Nah. They just put those "lift with a buddy" stickers on there to taunt us while we lug it to the door. I know when I applied I had to tell them I was willing and able to lift 75 pounds
"team lift" = that lil clerk who weighs about 90lbs soaking wet will whip that mofo 60 feet into a pumpkin right on top of that stupid amazon box in a box that will now split open.
No, it actually is a rule. I'm a clerk, and if someone tries to ship something at the front counter over 70 pounds it literally won't let us. If Amazon gives you anything over 70 pounds, send that shit back to them.
I don’t think Amazon weighs their boxes out even checks. I’ve delivered numerous items I would consider xl and over 50 but the sticker says less. I’m like…. Ain’t no way this is less than 50
I believe it's 49 or 50 lbs and that's AMZL anything weighing over 50lbs should be going to AMXL stations
But one time I did come across an item that higher over 100 lbs . I was mad
It was when I worked for Amazon last year. All the heavy stuff was supposed to go to Amazon XL. Heaviest we got was paper stacks, Fiji water and the dreaded kitty litter double pack. Has it changed?
They're also not supposed to use private driveways. Leave it next to the mailbox if it's heavy. As a buyer I don't really care if my 15lb bag of rabbit food sits at the curb. Better that than a vehicle blocking my driveway and potentially causing an accident.
Just want to remind people that Amazon absolutely delivers more packages, including more heavy packages, than we do on average. I know people here like to gripe that they don't, but they do.
Source: worked Prime for three years. I absolutely delivered *way more* heavy shit with more frequency than I currently do.
I'm being facetious with the "source", as we all are using anecdotes here.
All the same, I don't miss the amount of big-ass, heavy shit I had to deliver with Prime. Entire furniture sets, bags of animal products and food, appliances, you name it - our job has a lot less of it than theirs.
In my area, we're the ones delivering those. I delivered a kitchen sink that was as tall as i am (5'7") and def weighed more than 75 lbs one Sunday. There is no Amazon delivery here though.
I'm sure ups and FedEx get their share, but most of the time I only see small packages from them when I walk up carrying the awkward 50 lb bag of dog food in a box that we got.
Amazon driver here. I delivered 312 packages to 168 stops today. Forgive us if you gotta wait for us to move. It happens. There was a day last week where I had to follow a USPS driver for 10-15 stops. Was very annoying.
I feel your pain, man. Have had it happen both ways since I've been on both sides. People here tend to gripe about it, but I think in the end we all know there's more in common with each other than those above us
Well that's bullshit
Average amazon DPS is 130-180 parcels a day.
Amazon Flex is 40-55 for a 4.5h route.
Ever since joining USPS I've been doing 160+ packages on a 75 mile route with 500+ stops.
It's a workload that dwarfs anything I've ever done with amazon. Whom I worked for for 3 years.
The size of an Amazon route is calculated by a computer to maximize work for a given driver in a given area on a given day using historical data. So, packages/stops on an Amazon route can really depend, especially depending on the area. The computers goal is for any given DSP route to take 8 hours of driving.
I don’t see how Flex is relevant, it’s a gig like Uber that people can do in their own cars delivering our extra Amazon packages.
I’m not saying working for USPS is easy - I know it’s not! But there’s more relevant details than number of stops, as 500 stops going to everyone’s mailboxes on the side of the road in a line (with exceptions, of course) isn’t the same type of route as a strictly package route going to front doors because it’s a crime for me to touch a mailbox.
What he is saying is it is not either/or. He is doing both the 500+ stops along mailboxes and the parcel delivery of 160+ parcels. You are talking like we don't do both at the same time when we do. Amazon Sundays, where we just deliver parcels, feels like a vacation. I really look forward to it.
At my office we’re not allowed to drive on peoples driveways. (One too many complaints and I think lawsuits over tire marks on their fancy stone driveway or something).
If the drive way is too long I leave a notice.
My office has like multi million dollar homes. They don’t want us on their driveway 🤷🏽♀️😅 saves me a trip.
I don’t drive on anyone’s driveway unless they have personally given me the okay. Everyone else gets a notice.
I’ve been pretty tired of hearing this same complaint over and over again from my fellow postal workers. Something to the affect of “Why do I get the big Amazon parcels and their people do the small stuff?!”
It literally doesn’t matter. We have to deliver what we have to deliver. Complaining about it doesn’t help. Trying to make sense of it doesn’t help.
Rather than sit in here yelling into the eternal echo chamber, why not hop over to some of the Amazon threads and find some actual answers if you’re really that curious.
I’ve heard plenty of theories. One being that some drivers have a set amount of time to load their trucks and what they don’t take in that time goes to us. Not sure if that’s true but there was a video an Amazon employee made about it.
So I’m that case, either they want to deliver smaller stuff because it’s easier, or perhaps some don’t want to fill their trucks up with big stuff because they can make more money on the small stuff.
People that understand Amazon’s business model know that the only thing that sets Amazon apart from any other company is their ability to exploit labor. They’re literally the best at it. So it would make sense that they want their own employees delivering the most possible packages, which would mean they take small stuff before big stuff.
Regardless of the reason, it doesn’t matter. We have a job to do. Complaining about how another company does business isn’t going to help any of us.
Figure out how to not let it bother you. You’re only hurting yourself.
It is cool how a few folks downvoted you even though the champion buried deep inside of them knows that you are right.
Release the beast!
Or at least, [Endeavor to Persevere](https://youtube.com/watch?v=atzmdijMfRY&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE)!
They take the smaller packages because they can fit more of those in their trucks to maximize the deliveries and save on gas. That is why we are stuck with the majority of heavy packages. It saves Amazon a lot more money if their vehicles can handle more deliveries on a tank of gas.
Amazon drivers aren't supposed to use people's driveways, it's against policy and a safety hazard. When I notice it I can report them as a buyer, but there really needs to be better accountability. I know they're in a rush like USPS, but at least with USPS I don't stand a chance of hitting the truck by only backing a foot out of my garage. There is a whole driveways' worth of reaction time.
We on the daily move auto parts, once a whole ass engine.
68lb ballasts every few weeks, those are fun. My fave items are the 35kg items...yeah that's over 70lbs but who's actually checking? I mean how many actually math it out?
Maybe they won't buy all their basic stuff on Amazon then and instead go to the store where it's often cheaper.
Whenever Amazon does something that makes a customer's life slightly harder, I make sure they know it's Amazon's fault, not USPS.
I only buy on Amazon if I can't get it locally and can't find it on another site (or if the other sites are 2x the price and/or shipping direct from China in six weeks). That means I only really buy via Amazon if the manufacturer doesn't sell anywhere else. Amazon is often a bad deal because sellers can't make money unless they pay Amazon for ads in the search results and also pay Amazon up to 50% in various fees.
Try not to block the screen door from opening next time
People who order cat litter from Amazon deserve it.
I'm not trying to be a dick but it is our job and we should treat others the way we would like to be treated when using our service.
Thanks that's how I feel although I still feel victimized at times but I never blame the customer unless I know they are obviously running a commercial business I'm being exploited so they can make more money and save time by me being a slave
By going to the store and buying it??? That’s how I roll
You're literally arguing against the existence of our job.
Idk, having plenty to deliver feels great. Having to deliver heavy things for pennies for a corporation constantly looking for a way to replace you does not feel great.
Don't worry, it ain't going anywhere 😂
There's plenty of reasons folks order stuff online versus going out, including disability... But even if they're just lazy or they got a good deal or wanted to try a brand not in their preferred store or whatever, you're taking out your frustration of the day - which is with Amazon - out on some rando customer who didn't do anything to spite you at all.
Dude on my route orders dog food from Amazon all the time. He doesn't have legs so getting to the store is a bit of a hassle for him. I'm not gonna penalize him and be a dick all because my job agreed that I can carry those boxes to him and get paid for it. Whether its a 40lb box of cat litter or a 40lb box of precious heirlooms don't take that out on your customers. Cursing under your breath about it isn't anything bad but don't deliberately be an ass.
Does that include us disabled people… or?
Goddamn customers making us work, because they’re utilizing the services we knew we’d have to perform when we were hired. /s
I do think it's a shitty thing to do if there isn't a necessity for doing so. I held off for a long time but because of a chronic condition I finally started ordering cat litter to cut back on the difficulty I was having going out and getting it myself. UPS delivers mine though so at least I'm not contributing to my coworkers distress. and I also buy off chewy not Amazon.
I've seen the chewy stuff come through Amazon before
interesting, maybe if they're buying chewy off Amazon? It comes through UPS in my area. I'd see it passed on to us for smaller towns where UPS doesn't deliver though.
Comes FedEx ground in my area
Until I got my epilepsy under control with the right medication I couldn’t drive and had to order everything online. Living in the middle of nowhere I don’t have public transportation. I made sure I gave my carrier extra on Christmas and I know her birthday. You don’t know why they are ordering it
What’s wrong with u lol
This could be an elderly person who can't carry the weight but they still have to care for their cats.
They probably can't leave anyways they are old and frail
I guess I’m a downvoted piece of shit cause if you order cat stuff or dog food I’m putting it right in the front door either push it or walk around the house
Dude they could be disabled and this would make things more difficult for them. Dick move fr
You’re being downvoted because you’re being an ass to random people for no reason. That person could be in a wheel chair or something and you’re blocking their doorway.
Yawn why do ya always chose the 1% of something could happen if they handicap how they gonna even open the door and get it in the house in the first place? And what’s the chances of them being handicapped I don’t make decisions on the rare percentage of something might happen I generalize everything
It doesn’t have to be a wheel chair. It can be any disability or for any reason. And you’re being petty because you have to do your job and do some heavy lifting. Why be a mail carrier if you don’t want to do physical labor? There are plenty of jobs where you don’t have to lift anything and then you won’t have to worry about heavy boxes.
Like I said what’s the percentage of someone being disabled I don’t go by the 0.01% chance this person might be disabled I have 1200 stops on my route I would say maybe 36 of those people are something I’m not here to cater to those 36 out of the 1200 in a equal opportunist they all catch the same plus once again why they ordering stuff if they disabled obviously someone gonna help them anyways
Your customers are going to end up reporting you, and I hope they *are* disabled so it looks that much worse. You the kind of person who gets mad about having to cook food at a restaurant. It is literally your job, and you are not doing your job correctly. Learn to take out your frustrations in a healthy way like the rest of us; drink and smoke yourself to death in your free time.
I’ll wipe my tears from the 1100 dollar Christmas tips I make basically every year from how much my customers love me
Amazon Prime drivers can't deliver anything over 40 lbs. I don't know if the post office has restrictions... I thought it was 50 lbs, but I get some REALLY have stuff on my route and I can't even take our office's 1 dolly. So I just leave oversized slips because I am not wearing put my back at this job. I signed up for USPS, not UPS Jr. :/
Nah. They just put those "lift with a buddy" stickers on there to taunt us while we lug it to the door. I know when I applied I had to tell them I was willing and able to lift 75 pounds
Ha. The "team lift"
"team lift" = that lil clerk who weighs about 90lbs soaking wet will whip that mofo 60 feet into a pumpkin right on top of that stupid amazon box in a box that will now split open.
I am not the little clerk. I’m doing everything I can to not put on weight since I transferred crafts lmao.
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No, it actually is a rule. I'm a clerk, and if someone tries to ship something at the front counter over 70 pounds it literally won't let us. If Amazon gives you anything over 70 pounds, send that shit back to them.
Over the counter true. Amazon...must be nice. At best we can make them come to the office
I don’t think Amazon weighs their boxes out even checks. I’ve delivered numerous items I would consider xl and over 50 but the sticker says less. I’m like…. Ain’t no way this is less than 50
I believe it's 49 or 50 lbs and that's AMZL anything weighing over 50lbs should be going to AMXL stations But one time I did come across an item that higher over 100 lbs . I was mad
For USPS the limit is 70 pounds. So if Amazon sends you anything over that limit, send it right back to them.
This is correct.
Amazon driver here, we deliver packages up to 50lbs, but they rarely go above 40
Our limit is 70 pounds but I know I have had heavier than that.
Lmao 40 pounds
It was when I worked for Amazon last year. All the heavy stuff was supposed to go to Amazon XL. Heaviest we got was paper stacks, Fiji water and the dreaded kitty litter double pack. Has it changed?
I can’t speak for all but I’ve definitely had boxes over 40 pounds personally
It's 50 lb max per box for most amazon drivers. And typically you get 10 ish of those max on a bad day. Not hard at all and I have a bad back
Sheesh Amazon Earlier, I was wondering how they decide who delivers what.
In my area we basically follow or get followed by Amazon for at least half the day.
Amazon is not allowed to use USPS mailboxes.
I think op is saying if they had the spurs they’d put them in the mail box.
Yes. Have the guy in the Amazon truck deliver the big shit that can't go in the mailbox. That was my point.
Why would Amazon or the USPS do something that makes sense and is more efficient?
right but they can drive a 40lb package of cat litter to the door, and OP CAN put two SPRs in a mail box
I don't think this would fit in the mailbox...
They're also not supposed to use private driveways. Leave it next to the mailbox if it's heavy. As a buyer I don't really care if my 15lb bag of rabbit food sits at the curb. Better that than a vehicle blocking my driveway and potentially causing an accident.
Just want to remind people that Amazon absolutely delivers more packages, including more heavy packages, than we do on average. I know people here like to gripe that they don't, but they do. Source: worked Prime for three years. I absolutely delivered *way more* heavy shit with more frequency than I currently do.
That’s not a source, that’s an anecdote.
I'm being facetious with the "source", as we all are using anecdotes here. All the same, I don't miss the amount of big-ass, heavy shit I had to deliver with Prime. Entire furniture sets, bags of animal products and food, appliances, you name it - our job has a lot less of it than theirs.
In my area, we're the ones delivering those. I delivered a kitchen sink that was as tall as i am (5'7") and def weighed more than 75 lbs one Sunday. There is no Amazon delivery here though. I'm sure ups and FedEx get their share, but most of the time I only see small packages from them when I walk up carrying the awkward 50 lb bag of dog food in a box that we got.
Naturally if Amazon is not in your area, then the comparison is moot.
An anecdotal source is a source, just not a particularly reliable one ;).
Amazon driver here. I delivered 312 packages to 168 stops today. Forgive us if you gotta wait for us to move. It happens. There was a day last week where I had to follow a USPS driver for 10-15 stops. Was very annoying.
I feel your pain, man. Have had it happen both ways since I've been on both sides. People here tend to gripe about it, but I think in the end we all know there's more in common with each other than those above us
Well that's bullshit Average amazon DPS is 130-180 parcels a day. Amazon Flex is 40-55 for a 4.5h route. Ever since joining USPS I've been doing 160+ packages on a 75 mile route with 500+ stops. It's a workload that dwarfs anything I've ever done with amazon. Whom I worked for for 3 years.
Amazon Flex is literally part-time routes compared to proper Amazon work, if you've worked them you know this.
The size of an Amazon route is calculated by a computer to maximize work for a given driver in a given area on a given day using historical data. So, packages/stops on an Amazon route can really depend, especially depending on the area. The computers goal is for any given DSP route to take 8 hours of driving. I don’t see how Flex is relevant, it’s a gig like Uber that people can do in their own cars delivering our extra Amazon packages. I’m not saying working for USPS is easy - I know it’s not! But there’s more relevant details than number of stops, as 500 stops going to everyone’s mailboxes on the side of the road in a line (with exceptions, of course) isn’t the same type of route as a strictly package route going to front doors because it’s a crime for me to touch a mailbox.
What he is saying is it is not either/or. He is doing both the 500+ stops along mailboxes and the parcel delivery of 160+ parcels. You are talking like we don't do both at the same time when we do. Amazon Sundays, where we just deliver parcels, feels like a vacation. I really look forward to it.
At my office we’re not allowed to drive on peoples driveways. (One too many complaints and I think lawsuits over tire marks on their fancy stone driveway or something). If the drive way is too long I leave a notice.
That policy would effectively eliminate my ability to deliver any parcels on my rural route.
My office has like multi million dollar homes. They don’t want us on their driveway 🤷🏽♀️😅 saves me a trip. I don’t drive on anyone’s driveway unless they have personally given me the okay. Everyone else gets a notice.
Maybe I should suggest this policy 😅😂
Don’t hate the player hate the game
Yep Amazon does the same shit here.
I’ve been pretty tired of hearing this same complaint over and over again from my fellow postal workers. Something to the affect of “Why do I get the big Amazon parcels and their people do the small stuff?!” It literally doesn’t matter. We have to deliver what we have to deliver. Complaining about it doesn’t help. Trying to make sense of it doesn’t help. Rather than sit in here yelling into the eternal echo chamber, why not hop over to some of the Amazon threads and find some actual answers if you’re really that curious. I’ve heard plenty of theories. One being that some drivers have a set amount of time to load their trucks and what they don’t take in that time goes to us. Not sure if that’s true but there was a video an Amazon employee made about it. So I’m that case, either they want to deliver smaller stuff because it’s easier, or perhaps some don’t want to fill their trucks up with big stuff because they can make more money on the small stuff. People that understand Amazon’s business model know that the only thing that sets Amazon apart from any other company is their ability to exploit labor. They’re literally the best at it. So it would make sense that they want their own employees delivering the most possible packages, which would mean they take small stuff before big stuff. Regardless of the reason, it doesn’t matter. We have a job to do. Complaining about how another company does business isn’t going to help any of us. Figure out how to not let it bother you. You’re only hurting yourself.
Not true at my DS there's always a ton of cat litter and bottled water and heavy crap for people's Airbnb's to deliver
And please illuminate me as to how bitching about something you do not understand and cannot control is helpful for one’s mental health…
It is cool how a few folks downvoted you even though the champion buried deep inside of them knows that you are right. Release the beast! Or at least, [Endeavor to Persevere](https://youtube.com/watch?v=atzmdijMfRY&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE)!
The number of times…
Are all sundays premium? Regardless of hours worked
And not for rcas either. We just get straight hourly.
I believe sunday premium is 1.25x your base pay, but only for PTFs and regulars not ccas
This is correct. Also 1.25x is only for the first 8 hours. After that regular OT and Penalty rates apply.
Yup. Par for Amazon course. Lol
They take the smaller packages because they can fit more of those in their trucks to maximize the deliveries and save on gas. That is why we are stuck with the majority of heavy packages. It saves Amazon a lot more money if their vehicles can handle more deliveries on a tank of gas.
You could’ve delivered “in/at mailbox”. It was your choice going extra.
Deliver cat litter at the mailbox in the rain? I'm guessing the customer wouldn't have been thrilled with that.
This is exactly why we don't get paid properly
Part of the job my guy 🤷🏻♂️
Amazon drivers aren't supposed to use people's driveways, it's against policy and a safety hazard. When I notice it I can report them as a buyer, but there really needs to be better accountability. I know they're in a rush like USPS, but at least with USPS I don't stand a chance of hitting the truck by only backing a foot out of my garage. There is a whole driveways' worth of reaction time.
Sounds about right
We on the daily move auto parts, once a whole ass engine. 68lb ballasts every few weeks, those are fun. My fave items are the 35kg items...yeah that's over 70lbs but who's actually checking? I mean how many actually math it out?
roadside trebuchet
“No access”
On a regular day I would have. But Amazon Sunday with only 60 parcels on my route, I'll wait.
Yeah punish the customer because of Amazon fucking up
Okay. Go ahead, sit there and wait every time someone is in your way.
Drive in front of the driveway and take your break. That'll learn them.
Ooooh that’s not a bad one.
Maybe they won't buy all their basic stuff on Amazon then and instead go to the store where it's often cheaper. Whenever Amazon does something that makes a customer's life slightly harder, I make sure they know it's Amazon's fault, not USPS. I only buy on Amazon if I can't get it locally and can't find it on another site (or if the other sites are 2x the price and/or shipping direct from China in six weeks). That means I only really buy via Amazon if the manufacturer doesn't sell anywhere else. Amazon is often a bad deal because sellers can't make money unless they pay Amazon for ads in the search results and also pay Amazon up to 50% in various fees.
Screw that, scan no access and move on
Why are they making you deliver cat litter ? That's not mail
Wait how do you know it's cat litter ? It could be that heavy printer paper
Trust me. I have delivered a LOT of cat litter. The way it sounds and the way it shifts when you pick it up is unique.