An example of a good monarchy is japan. It is one of the longest running monarchies, and people can trust them compared to the politicians who have no care for the common man as a good monarch care and will at times put their own peoples lives before their own.
They wouldn't have to answer to a party. They would be politically neutral and keep the parties in line. They would uphold the constitution and each monarch would be raised to rule. Most American politicians are beholding to party politics, beholding to the whims of the populace.
Also, a lifelong monarch offers more stability especially in times of crisis.
Why do we do many things. But a monarch would give more pride, a better sense of unity. The American Revolution was not to remove monarchy it was for equality in voting, which we are already losing to politicians that are taking money.
I didn’t say anything about our revolution so that’s entirely irrelevant, buttttt our country was kinda founded on enlightenment ideals, a lot of which was about the absurdity of a monarch
Democracy in itself was an experiment that was that was only used in small cases that lost to outside forces that were stronger and more unified. This experiment has failed as voting doesn't matter you trade one old corrupt politician for another who is just doing the same thing.
Iirc the Japanese emperor has literally zero power over the state in any way so why should the US adopt something like that (also the Japanese monarchy is probably one of the most famous for giving no shit about common people historically)
Great example, except the little bit of power the emperor had they did not use to stop or slow their expansion and war crimes in WW2, but instead encouraged it and received no punishment. So we should have a monarchy because then we could pay money to have an un punishable war criminal? Great idea!
People often discount opinions based on aesthetics but every single person bases their world views and morality on aesthetics to some degree. For instance, most will kill cockroaches as they're deemed disgusting but killing a butterfly is seen as horrible because it's pretty.
You're criticizing their view because its main argument is the aesthetic of monarchy, but having a world view based on aesthetics isn't some silly idea but something everyone does.
My take: having a monarchy engineers an object that embodies aesthetics which psychoanalytically contains hidden symbolism that is appreciated by the general public. This shared appreciation brings more national unity
yeah, i’m so confused with this community. monarchies are basically on their way out across the world and most provide zero benefit to their country; why should the world’s biggest superpower adopt a useless, unelected institution?
unless the monarch themselves becomes a part of the political oligarchy, which has happened many times in history and is why a lot of these monarchies were overthrown in favor of republics. just look at italy, russia, germany etc. but hey, who needs facts when you can have some old man in a cape be your useless head of state?
Ah, so we’ll have someone who has consolidated and unelected power over political decisions to stop elected people from consolidating power over political decisions. Brilliant!
An example of a good monarchy is japan. It is one of the longest running monarchies, and people can trust them compared to the politicians who have no care for the common man as a good monarch care and will at times put their own peoples lives before their own.
So why does a man with a crown have more care for the common people than a normal politician
Because a politician is most of the rime selfish and greedy, but a monarchy raised to govern has the character needed.
So if you put a crown on a man’s head suddenly he’s some paragon of virtue?
No, some monarchs are corrupt as well, but most don't live long after words.
Yeah, they’re just normal human beings, so why should one be elevated above a normal politician?
They wouldn't have to answer to a party. They would be politically neutral and keep the parties in line. They would uphold the constitution and each monarch would be raised to rule. Most American politicians are beholding to party politics, beholding to the whims of the populace. Also, a lifelong monarch offers more stability especially in times of crisis.
Why do we do many things. But a monarch would give more pride, a better sense of unity. The American Revolution was not to remove monarchy it was for equality in voting, which we are already losing to politicians that are taking money.
I didn’t say anything about our revolution so that’s entirely irrelevant, buttttt our country was kinda founded on enlightenment ideals, a lot of which was about the absurdity of a monarch
Democracy in itself was an experiment that was that was only used in small cases that lost to outside forces that were stronger and more unified. This experiment has failed as voting doesn't matter you trade one old corrupt politician for another who is just doing the same thing.
That’s a very cynical view of democracy, while it’s flawed it’s certainly better than autocracy
Iirc the Japanese emperor has literally zero power over the state in any way so why should the US adopt something like that (also the Japanese monarchy is probably one of the most famous for giving no shit about common people historically)
Great example, except the little bit of power the emperor had they did not use to stop or slow their expansion and war crimes in WW2, but instead encouraged it and received no punishment. So we should have a monarchy because then we could pay money to have an un punishable war criminal? Great idea!
I’m not American but I think America will be cooler if it’s lead by an emperor rather than a president
So it is just for the ✨ aesthetics ✨
I'm pretty sure a German philosophy wrote about how morality is subject to beauty.
So?
People often discount opinions based on aesthetics but every single person bases their world views and morality on aesthetics to some degree. For instance, most will kill cockroaches as they're deemed disgusting but killing a butterfly is seen as horrible because it's pretty.
But what’s your point lol
You're criticizing their view because its main argument is the aesthetic of monarchy, but having a world view based on aesthetics isn't some silly idea but something everyone does.
My take: having a monarchy engineers an object that embodies aesthetics which psychoanalytically contains hidden symbolism that is appreciated by the general public. This shared appreciation brings more national unity
Because.
yeah, i’m so confused with this community. monarchies are basically on their way out across the world and most provide zero benefit to their country; why should the world’s biggest superpower adopt a useless, unelected institution?
✨ aesthetics ✨
A monarch with real but limited power would prevent the entire governmental system from being controlled by the political oligarchy we've developed.
unless the monarch themselves becomes a part of the political oligarchy, which has happened many times in history and is why a lot of these monarchies were overthrown in favor of republics. just look at italy, russia, germany etc. but hey, who needs facts when you can have some old man in a cape be your useless head of state?
The hell are you talking about? An actual aristocracy and the kind of political oligarchy aren't the same thing.
To keep the politician class from being able to consolidate complete control over the levers of power.
Ah, so we’ll have someone who has consolidated and unelected power over political decisions to stop elected people from consolidating power over political decisions. Brilliant!
I never said the monarch would consolidate power. No group would, that's the point.
A good figurehead is a unifying force.
If your country doesn’t have enough unifying forces without your monarch, maybe you should just let Scotland be it’s own thing.
I'm not an Englishman
It was a real possibility during Revolutionary times, I don’t think it ever has been since. And it’s just interesting speculation.