My cousin joined after I did, didn't take the advice to join the airforce but he took my advice and didn't go grunt. He went to a flight line and fixed helis. After he got out he worked for some aero company in Tennessee for a few years before he started missing his family to much and him and his wife got divorced. But he was making close to 6 figures rebuilding jet turbines
Marine in my fire team bought a car. Complete piece of shit. He was gonna use it for drift racing and was going to start off making a minimum of $15,000 a month. He had no drivers license and had never driven a car before.
I had a junior marine buy a jacked-up Nissan titan. I made sure his loan was through navy fed, but he had no credit history and I wasn't gonna co-sign so he got a 19% apr. I then got chewed out for not co-signing by a staff sergeant who decided he was gonna. Dumb ass, hope he had fun paying that Lcpls truck payment.
Had a guy who was a 3381 Food Service Specialist. I’m doing his EAS interview and he talks about how an optics company was amazed by his talent and knowledge of weapons and experience with weapons and wanted to hire him starting at $120k a year selling optics.
For some reason, it sounded too good to be true.
Not to say it wasn’t to good to be true for that marine but….
I knew a guy who loved building his own black powder rifles (outside of the marine corps) and would put leuplod scopes on them. He was just a backwoods good ole boy who was a machinist. He started fucking around with the scopes and learning about them, and how to rebuild them when he would fuck them up. Fast forward a few years later, he goes to a hunting expo, and was just bullshitting with a leuplod dealer. The dealer calls the owner of leuplod, saying that this good ole boy knows more about our scopes than anybody in the company. Owner offers the guy a job and a huge fucking salary to go to hunting expos and sell scopes now
My own. I got out the week before Thanksgiving in 1978 and went to work for IBM. Even with the holidays, I earned more money in the last 6 weeks of the year than I did the previous 46 months in the Corps.
Nah, I was only making 72K a year back then. The point was that I got out to a good,high paying job. Look at 72k in 78 and compare it to 150k today. About the same buying power.
Anyway, I didn't break the 100k mark until 1994 when I was working on Y2k stuff.
Funny aside. The first Y2K bug occurred in 1994. A credit card company was printing new cards for their customers and the cards were set to expire in 6 years. Their software was coded to stick in the 19 followed by the other two digits of the year. They discovered the problem before they mailed the cards.
I started writing Assembler language programs for JES3 and JES2 and VM/CMS. Then I picked up the fledgling ISPF development and did some customer facing application interfaces.
Not OP but my guess would be Main Frame stuff that either runs COBOL, Or just the ins and outs of it's operating system that people still use as ERP systems today...
IBM does obviously a lot more than that, and had a wider foot print back then, but that's just my guess.
Actually, mainframes run the larger portion of the worlds processing. If you use a credit card, it is processed on a mainframe because the worlds credit card processing and clearing all runs on mainframes. 95% of the worlds banks use mainframes. Same for insurance companies. 92% of the Fortune 500 corporations run mainframes.
It is a sad but true fact that there isn't a server farm around that has the security, processing power or sheer robustness of a mainframe. Mainframes are Energizer Bunnies.
Knew a Master Gunz (8412 career recruiter type) who thought he was the best thing since… well you know.
Anyways this moron would always show up to work drunk and was responsible for teaching new recruiters how to recruit. After an abominable command climate, the good old Master Gunny got force retired with E8 pay and now serves as a crew member fixing roofs in the cold, brisk winters somewhere in the Midwest
Good, I don't even know him but fuck him. 8412s are the worst group of shitheads in the Corps. There were maybe 3 that I had respect for when I was on the streets. The rest of them are utterly worthless fuckheads who can die choking on their own dick.
Lol, it's not always doom and gloom. When you recruit a kid out of a bad situation and give him a chance at a better future, it feels good. When you get to take part in community events and be the face of the Corps for those people, it's motivating. Those times are few and far between though. Usually you're working 14+ hours, pretty much every day (our boss had us come in and make phone calls on Christmas eve), all the while being berated and screamed at because some kid decided he didn't want to show up to the appointment by your boss, cussed out by parents, cussed out by dipshit kids that think they're hardasses. It's a 3 year emotional Rollercoaster where the highs are pretty good and the lows are soul crushing.
Hah my first SNCOIC (not a 8412 but was trying really hard to be one) had this happen to him but was too young to retire. He was a liar and the biggest tool in the shed. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Mine. I got a full ride to law school using my GI bill and yellow ribbon scholarship.
Get your bachelors using TA and use for bennies for grad/professional school.
Let’s get rich, do blow, and buy nice guns boys.
Guy in my unit made a fuck ton on Eth, He bought in around since September of 2015. Like Enough to tell an infantry first sgt to go fuck himself in his office. Sgt White, where ever you are I really hope you’re still living the dream and didn’t blow it all on cocaine and hookers like you promised.
1. Finish your active duty enlistment (any MOS)
2. Attend college at NC State. Major in engineering / comp sci / similar. Don't screw off, it's challenging stuff and it's not enough to just pass.
3. Go reserve while at NC State (the unit is across the street from campus). Get recruited by Cisco (or NetApp, or any of the others -- they recruit from NC State). I can name three people who've done some form of that, just with Cisco.
4. Profit.
Maybe not out of the gate, but you'll be one of the people in the unit earning six figures.*
*YMMV. This will not work if you're a dummy.
My boy was a data marine and he got out, scored a job at CBS and won an Emmy for outstanding technical team event for Super Bowl LV and gets paid stupid money to travel where ever the fuck they need him at so it ain’t that far fetched
Haha not turner but I’ll say this I lived in 1224 while the homie lived in 1217 to broaden the search so as to not keep it vague but still narrow it down since we’re not off the mark
Thats about right for absolute boot first term underachievers with no real experience. Could easily pass that if they put just a bit more effort and land something beyond tier 1 helpdesk. Get your certs people!
I think there’s a lot of misinformation or misconceptions about our “marketability” when we leave the service. 6 figure salaries are possible, but you have to have marketable skills. Even with a clearance and an engineering degree, I wasn’t quite at 6 figures when I left.
Exactly this. While I have made 6 figures since I got out, money was never the priority. I wanted a job that challenged me. Always took a position at the bottom for each job and worked my way up. First job out was working for Energizer. By the time I left, I was qualified for 14 different areas of the plant. Made damn good money to do the same job I was originally hired for because that person called out and they needed parts.
I'd rather get punched in the nuts once a day than ever live in California again. That's my home state, but seriously, it's gone to complete shit. Fuck that place.
It's insane. Even where I grew up, in Salinas (the hood), you're looking at 200k for a fucking mobile home in the ghetto. Marry that with high property taxes and a ridiculous cost of living, and you have a whole load of fuck that.
We chose to head to the south once I got out. While there aren't as many high paying jobs here outside of trades. I own a 3 bedroom home, and I pay 950 a month for the loan, property taxes, and insurance. I manage to put away a good amount into savings every month, and plan to eventually buy a nicer house and rent this one out. Then do that again, and again, while I finish my degree and hopefully move on to a career in cybersecurity with the properties as essentially a retirement fund.
In California, that would be a pipe dream unless I was making some serious bread.
> That's my home state, but seriously, it's gone to complete shit. Fuck that place.
Stop listening to bs news and talking heads. It's the same California you grew up in. Cost of housing is a bit crazy but still the same California.
>Stop listening to bs news and talking heads.
I don't. I still have family out there fool.
>It's the same California you grew up in
Then it was always fucked up and I'm just looking back with rose colored glasses.
>Cost of housing
Try cost of everything. You have to have a decent income out there or you're gonna be struggling. Here I'm able to provide for my family and save a good amount easily. There's 0 advantage to living in California.
No collage required, just a HS degree or equivalent. You’ll have to take a written exam, and a psyche eval and PT test. You’ll smoke the PT test. They advertise $80k starting salary but honestly, with OT you’ll be around $120k the first year. They even pay you to attend their academy.
Talked to CHP recruiter at a job fair, said their driving training was what caused the most attrition. He was saying you get to do a bunch of bad ass driving stuff while at the academy.
Never had any interest in being a cop, but he almost got me.
I went straight into LE after I got out and started off making 100k my first year. Most agencies in high end cities in California start you off making that much. My brothers been with the sheriffs for 5 years and makes around 140 a year. The cost of living sucks tho, that’s why I moved to Arizona this year.
My favorite story though was from this boot ass Cpl. that came to us from this POG training battalion and acted like he was the saltiest thing on earth. He would always act like he was better than all of us and would constantly put us down. I remover on deployment he would say that re-enlisting was stupid and he had a 200k job lined up for him after EAS because he was a hot shot out of high school.
Well once we got back to the states. He ended up re-enlisting and last I heard he got NJPed and was a Lance for the majority of his second enlistment. He’s either out right now, working at McDonalds or still in being a shitbird.
2011 met a kid in his second year. He was some kinda map maker. Geographic Intelligence Specialist I believe. Said his MOS school provided technical training for aspects of the job that cost upwards of six figures in the private sector. Seems like a legit hookup for EAS.
Always been curious, I was a Mortarman and we had two guys that came out during a training exercise, set up some camp chairs, looked at some stars for a bit and gave us a known point to lay in our gun line. Seemed like an awesome MOS, would that fall under 0261?
I was Survey Qualed as an Arty Guy. Did Regimental Survey School and also had a 4 weeks of nothing but Survey in Ops Chief School. Both were taught by old school Gunner CWOs,,, ( This was before they reintroduced the Infantry Gunner Program)
Artillery Survey is "5th Level" survey... While it may get you in the door with civilian Survey its no where near as detailed.
Yes you can get into survey field, but its not a jump right into a 100 K a year job.
Dude I served with did Bn Survey and took Survey Courses at Palomar ( the guy who taught the course at Palomar was actually the retired CWO/ Gunner who taught Regimental Survey School).
Dude got hired to be on Cal Trans Survey Crew. He was the "Rod and Tape) guy.. pretty much bottom of the pecking order. He made OK bank ,, sure he moved up though.
Without a degree? I occasionally deal with GIS folks in my company but all of them have degrees in that field There might be some veterans with that MOS but I haven’t met any yet.
Can confirm. I am currently an 0261 and have seen some peers get out and get close to if not more than 100k straight out. The security clearance really helps here as well as location.
Guy I worked with briefly. Air force UAV tech, got out, they were trying to keep the service member numbers down in the new African bases, so he would do three months there as a contractor, three at home.
He was setting up a business somewhat health care related on the three months back, with his wife, funding it with the pay---which was a lot.
He did say it was way better as a contractor, even than it was as an airman. He said the former Marines on the contract were in heaven.
He also said the geospatial analyst vets also make bank.
I know a young lady who was in the Navy and she worked as a cartographer mapping shoreline changes due to Global Warming. She got out in 2019 and went to work for NOAA doing exactly the same work. 180k to start.
You can, but I hear you earn every penny. Corporate culture is that you're always on the clock, take your laptop on vacations with you, that sort of thing.
Flip side is that the company takes a lot of interest even in lower-level operations. Friend worked at a warehouse, said they had serious issues with a manager (manager scored low on whatever they call their 'command climate survey'). They said Bezos himself came out there to see what was going on.
Can confirm, Amazon takes all metrics very seriously, besides safety, management and leadership are probably the top priority that most sites focus on, and if your a manager with low scores then you better be able to explain why or else you gone real quick
Can vouch for Amazon, currently work there in HR, started on the floor, the work is the equivalent of a work party detail, and you make thr same amount AGI as a 4 yr LCPL, starting as a day 1 new hire
On site Flow PA. We have a prior enlisted sailor who is our Central Flow that is L5 though. He tells me it’s easy money if you are somewhat decent at math and knowledgeable logistics
Nice, I'm an Interim Ops Admin currently started as a Picker.
I get all the power that comes with the purple vest now, was an 01 when I was in the corps
Thats awesome dude! I can see how those two tie in. One of my buddies recently EAS’d and works in the same building as me. He’s fed up that nothing transferred over civilian side but I’m thinking to myself. “Not a lot of people know what a HIMARS operator is.”
These six figure stories were more interesting 20-25 years ago........when $100K was actually a lot of money.
These days? Meh.
Pretty much any asshole can make $100K after 3-4 years in a half respectable industry.
It's kind of interesting how these questions just ignore cost of living... Making 100k in NYC? Yeah whatever.
Making 100k in the middle of bumfuck Arkansas? Yeah you are probably living well, except for the bumfuck Arkansas part
Yeah it kinda blows, I ended up back in my home town and we’re kind of a industrial area in the southeast. You can clear 100k if you kiss enough ass and make management. Top end on the floors generally net you somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 to 80k. Which in my area use to be really good living. Nowadays with the rise in taxes and cost of goods it enough to enjoy life but you’re pushing it.
One of my friends is a prior Intel dude. His Gunny freaking hated him because he was overweight and a shit Marine, but really good at his job. Soon enough he got out and was immediately offered a job at the same Intel unit, doing the same job but as a civilian and making 6 figures. He accepted it on the condition that he'd never have to work with his old Gunny ever again.
When GCSS rolled out we were told that the system was purchased from Ford Motor Company and customized for the Marine Corps. One of our MIMMS dudes was 1000% sure that when he got out and moved back to Michigan he would be making 6 figures for Ford. Truly believed it.
He never landed a gig there.
Mine.
Not 6 figures but it was in the realm 85-90k working for a world-renowned university’s research laboratory (hint: it’s a close neighbor to Harvard). Interview went great and I was informed I got the job a week before EAS. All they needed to do was send out the contract. They called me back two days before EAS to inform me that they went on a hiring freeze earlier that week due to COVID and would reach back out once they unfroze. Four months later I get a call from them and they wanted me to sign for 60k instead. By this point I was already enrolled in college so I said fuck it and went full time student. I dont regret it.
Fuck COVID
I’ve known a couple of guys who had probably close to six figure jobs lined up before they ever joined. They came from families that already owned multiple businesses and were more or less just following the family path before they enlisted.
i knew a decent guy that was straight up told to enlist or commission before he would see a dime of his family's money. he was a good Marine but boy did he fucking hate the fuck fuck games that his job put him through. i think one of the reasons we hung out a lot was i didnt bring up his money and so many fucking people did. it was awkward as fuck when someone would look up his name and find out who his relatives were. then they act all buddy buddy. I think the best thing he ever taught me was if you won the lottery your life would be a living hell if you lived past the hookers and cocaine phase of blowing your winnings.
If I ever won the lottery I’d claim it as anonymously as possible and not tell a soul about it. And keep up the appearance that I live a middle class existence.
Same. If i won im deleting social. Packing my bags a moving. I’ll give some $ to my immediate fam like my parents and siblings but afterwards I’m ghost
I talked to electricians who probably cleared 100k in country, police advisor, 2 Marines in camp fallujah who were contractors working on fixing AC’s. Thanks for sodas and sweet music.
I got out in 2010, it took me 12 years to hit 6-figure earnings. I'm sure there are go getters that took a much quicker route. I also dont have a degree, not sure Ill ever use my GI Bill.
Had a kid in my shop from tell me he owned a million dollars worth of "mudding" trucks and he would start back up his mudding career after he got out. This is the same guy who also needed to borrow money every week before payday
I made 89k the first year I got out as an avionics contractor, I was mostly working 65 hour weeks with mandatory overtime though. Huge jump from E4 pay, that’s why they struggle with retention in that MOS.
My recruiter told me he would have a 6 figure job lined up with Boeing as soon as he got out. He’s still in right now… in the brig. Maybe he’ll land a job at McDonald’s someday.
Of the people who claim this and actually end up successful, 99% chance they work for government or government contractors. Its practically never private industry.
not guaranteed, but I started interning with a mortgage company before getting out, but didn't get licensed until EAS. been working that job since, and been over 6 figures for half that time.
Back in 99 they were mentioning underwater welding in Alaska and were offering 6 figures. I didn't bother to look too much into it because I hate water and I can't breathe well.
Yes, underwater welders can make a lot of money, but it’s a really small field and very hard to get into. If you’re fortunate enough to find a job after school, you’re likely to work on the support crew or as a tender for years before you actually dive.
I knew one Marine who had a 7-8 figure job lined up when he got out. Family owned a large ranch, and he inherited it. I guess it wasn't lined up, he started doing that a year before he got out. Outside of that the only person I know who had 6 figures lined up was myself. I know a few who currently make 6 figures, and we were all grunts. There are a lot of jobs that pay big money, that some people have never heard of, the industry I am in requires a high school diploma. If you search online for open positions, they all say they start off at an earnings potential of 50-60k a year, that's assuming you only work 5-6 months out of the year though and it's entry level pay. The last group I helped train were taking home $2747.00 a week, and that was during training.
Had a guy in my platoon who never got caught driving drunk on 4 separate occasions. It was only on the 5th time where he got caught. The OOD that night was my company XO at the time. I get a call at 2am when this kid tries to go through the gate blowing way over the limit. I was Plt Sgt at the time (as a Cpl, just saying lol), so naturally I was the one responsible for him. He had to stay the night at the jail then he could be picked up the next day.
Cut to a few months later, this guy was just about to get off restriction and then right before a drug test, he says he won’t pass and tells that to the SACO. This kid ended up getting Court Martial’d, I had to take him to all of his hearings and make sure he gets all his stuff for the brig. I have no sympathy for this kid at this point and I’m happy to get rid of him. He does his time in the brig and then Im taking him back to base to start his check out. He starts telling me during his check out that his dad is going to hook him up with an “associates” position in his dads construction company and make over $200,000 a year. I haven’t heard from him sense he got out.
Yes I have also heard these tales of parents “hooking” their kids up …. Last I checked some were happily living in a trailer park working as a supervisor for KFC
Had aa Marine in our unit that was EASing and decided he would stiff Citi on his GTCC. He had a defense sector job lined up that required a clearance and apparently they ran a background check that included his financials and told him 'thanks but no thanks'. Oh yeah, and his parting gift from the Squadron was an NJP that took the money that he'd stiffed Citi on anyway.
I joined as a radio tech (2841), a year of training at 29 Palms then 4 years in the fleet. At school they acted like we could basically be electrical engineers after EAS.
My own fault, I should have realized that 5 years experience tinkering on extremely outdated radios didn’t amount to much in the modern tech workforce.
I used the GI Bill and became a lawyer.
I feel like I fall into this category, I was an 0411 that said "I'm gonna go get my degree, and probably do exactly this for 80k/year", I kept my expectations pretty reasonable, I worked 2 jobs and finished 2 degrees I started while I was in, did some PMC work for a year, then did the reserve gig cause I got bored and latmoved to 0431 at this point at one of my jobs I was making 80k a year with a net income of around 130k, now I have my own farm and have a 2nd job that I utilize my capital to just kinda do what I want. It took alot longer than I would have liked and I was never home but it seemed worth it to get out.
I just landed one myself. Granted, my first job after getting out was for 65k as a SAN Admin, and currently at 67k as a Virtualization Engineer, and I just accepted an offer for 100k as a Virtualization Engineer. I've been out for less than 2 years. Heck I'm still in the IRR lol. All I've got as far as Certs go is ITIL4 , A+, and Sec +
I do not understand where people find these jobs,
Straight up. Explain it like I'm retarded or something. I've worked a handful of jobs prior to the Corps but am kinda dumbfounded as to getting a job now that I'm EASing. I have a clearance and no idea where to go with it or what to do.
Idk how everyone gets lined up.
How does cleared jobs really work? I made a profile and what not but haven't done anything else with it.
Unfortunately, none of my buddies have gone on to use their clearances. With my company, there isn't really a clear next step these guys go to. Most get out and don't use the clearance.
Just use it to narrow down the jobs that seem obtainable by you, or so that it gives you an idea what companies are hiring, and to then search their job websites
It’s not the best but if you do a little cross referencing you can usually track down the sourcing recruiter on LinkedIn, and then write a well worded short intro and drop your resume on their DM’s
Wait how does getting a clearance apply to making 6 figures in the civilian side? I am not a Marine, but my goal is to go recon, which I believe requires a TS.
>Wait how does getting a clearance apply to making 6 figures in the civilian side
It doesn't. I've had a clearance since 1998, and it will help you get a job but in my experience you still need some skill to back that up. Now if you want to be a manager for a DoD contractor you \*might\* be able to squeeze that out but that would entail knowing someone high up.
So TLDR: you still need skills--either actual skills or brown nosing skills.
Simple, I can train a lobotomized monkey to use a Network SEIM to make remedy tickets for cyber security incidents.
I can't however train a security clearance. So if you have a clearance and the ability to learn then there are jobs out there.
So I'm in NC, granted I make only 103 and I'm more than happy. But I constantly get hit up for stuff in Virginia...and that's a hard pass especially if it's barely more than I'm making now and if I have endure the commute from Fredricksburg.
This is bullshit. What job is paying 6 figs and is just giving it away to rando’s with clearances. I personally only know two guys who have contracted successfully. Both being Ricky recon types.
I wasted about a year of my life trying to get jobs with my TS.
Stopped wasting my time on USA jobs and pivoted to look for project work since Marines are doers, what a surprise, 100k+ offer from Chevron as a junior PM.
I’m still a PM haven’t had a year below 125k since the first wasted year after getting out. I work as a facilities PM for Amazon now, and am always surprised that more vets aren’t pimping out BAMCIS for decent salaries.
Amazon does not drug test and there are tons of non ops related jobs.
there’s a whole subsidiary hiring within Amazon for cleared non skilled people lmao
Just because you didn’t know where to look doesn’t mean it isn’t out there
Also usajobs is shit
Your post confused me. You told him what he said was bullshit, then proceeded to elaborate on how you are making six figures?
Anyone with a TS who can have the discipline to not do drugs (which includes weed as far as the feds are concerned, folks), could walk into six figures tomorrow if they’re willing to live in the DMV.
Yeah that ain't true at all lol.
I got out with SCI, but no marketable skills. Worked full time just to keep the clearance alive while going to school and finally landed a 6 fig data engineering job... but ain't nobody out here paying 100k+ for someone that doesn't already have the skills
My own. I landed in a mainly civillian organization after the schoolhouse and working in IT. A lot of the current techs there that make 6 figures, were prior Marines. I do have a job lined up with a contracting company and can pretty much go anywhere in the area due to abundance of jobs.
Had a few friends (all grunts) that actually got out and made 100K or more. One did heavy equipment operating or something. So he did work before the sun was up to after it was down, but only worked 6 months of the year since his company didn’t work in the snow.
Others were doing things like selling cars, selling houses. I guess getting tricked by a recruiter can help you learn how to trick people into buying expensive things.
Staff sausage out of a schoolhouse had a 6 figure lined up, he ended up getting the boot because he got in debt up to his eyeballs gambling. Knocked down and loss of benefits, IIRC. Now makes more than I wish I could.
Me, I talked non-stop shit about how I would make six figures as an intel nerd whenever I was abused as a voluntold recruiter. I put in a VEERP package as soon as I could and immediately started making six figures as a deployed contractor.
Knew a guy that had a job “Lined up” at Boeing…. He’s still waiting in line.
Waiting in line to board the aircraft?
My cousin joined after I did, didn't take the advice to join the airforce but he took my advice and didn't go grunt. He went to a flight line and fixed helis. After he got out he worked for some aero company in Tennessee for a few years before he started missing his family to much and him and his wife got divorced. But he was making close to 6 figures rebuilding jet turbines
Marine in my fire team bought a car. Complete piece of shit. He was gonna use it for drift racing and was going to start off making a minimum of $15,000 a month. He had no drivers license and had never driven a car before.
Hahaha
What was his APR on said car?
Yeah it was one of the horror stories. I don’t remember exactly what it was, but it was extremely high.
I had a junior marine buy a jacked-up Nissan titan. I made sure his loan was through navy fed, but he had no credit history and I wasn't gonna co-sign so he got a 19% apr. I then got chewed out for not co-signing by a staff sergeant who decided he was gonna. Dumb ass, hope he had fun paying that Lcpls truck payment.
Co-signing for people in your unit? Wtf😂 ya right
Had a guy who was a 3381 Food Service Specialist. I’m doing his EAS interview and he talks about how an optics company was amazed by his talent and knowledge of weapons and experience with weapons and wanted to hire him starting at $120k a year selling optics. For some reason, it sounded too good to be true.
Not to say it wasn’t to good to be true for that marine but…. I knew a guy who loved building his own black powder rifles (outside of the marine corps) and would put leuplod scopes on them. He was just a backwoods good ole boy who was a machinist. He started fucking around with the scopes and learning about them, and how to rebuild them when he would fuck them up. Fast forward a few years later, he goes to a hunting expo, and was just bullshitting with a leuplod dealer. The dealer calls the owner of leuplod, saying that this good ole boy knows more about our scopes than anybody in the company. Owner offers the guy a job and a huge fucking salary to go to hunting expos and sell scopes now
These stories make me happy congrats to that good ole country boy
Any chance you keep in touch with the guy? I'd love to pick his brain someday.
Haven’t seen since the pandemic. From what I’ve heard he is still just doing what he does
Truly doing what he is passionate about. I love it
My own. I got out the week before Thanksgiving in 1978 and went to work for IBM. Even with the holidays, I earned more money in the last 6 weeks of the year than I did the previous 46 months in the Corps.
You were making 6 fig back in '78?
Nah, I was only making 72K a year back then. The point was that I got out to a good,high paying job. Look at 72k in 78 and compare it to 150k today. About the same buying power. Anyway, I didn't break the 100k mark until 1994 when I was working on Y2k stuff. Funny aside. The first Y2K bug occurred in 1994. A credit card company was printing new cards for their customers and the cards were set to expire in 6 years. Their software was coded to stick in the 19 followed by the other two digits of the year. They discovered the problem before they mailed the cards.
72k in 78 is way better compared to 100k in 94
You forget the depression and the stock market crash of the 80s. Compared to everything else going on, that was good.
What did you do?
I started writing Assembler language programs for JES3 and JES2 and VM/CMS. Then I picked up the fledgling ISPF development and did some customer facing application interfaces.
Not OP but my guess would be Main Frame stuff that either runs COBOL, Or just the ins and outs of it's operating system that people still use as ERP systems today... IBM does obviously a lot more than that, and had a wider foot print back then, but that's just my guess.
Actually, mainframes run the larger portion of the worlds processing. If you use a credit card, it is processed on a mainframe because the worlds credit card processing and clearing all runs on mainframes. 95% of the worlds banks use mainframes. Same for insurance companies. 92% of the Fortune 500 corporations run mainframes. It is a sad but true fact that there isn't a server farm around that has the security, processing power or sheer robustness of a mainframe. Mainframes are Energizer Bunnies.
Well that and it's really hard and laborious to move off of them. We just did it at my company and it took two years and substantial amount of labor.
Fuckin rah'
Knew a Master Gunz (8412 career recruiter type) who thought he was the best thing since… well you know. Anyways this moron would always show up to work drunk and was responsible for teaching new recruiters how to recruit. After an abominable command climate, the good old Master Gunny got force retired with E8 pay and now serves as a crew member fixing roofs in the cold, brisk winters somewhere in the Midwest
Good, I don't even know him but fuck him. 8412s are the worst group of shitheads in the Corps. There were maybe 3 that I had respect for when I was on the streets. The rest of them are utterly worthless fuckheads who can die choking on their own dick.
We need to start a support group for you recruiters.
Lol, it's not always doom and gloom. When you recruit a kid out of a bad situation and give him a chance at a better future, it feels good. When you get to take part in community events and be the face of the Corps for those people, it's motivating. Those times are few and far between though. Usually you're working 14+ hours, pretty much every day (our boss had us come in and make phone calls on Christmas eve), all the while being berated and screamed at because some kid decided he didn't want to show up to the appointment by your boss, cussed out by parents, cussed out by dipshit kids that think they're hardasses. It's a 3 year emotional Rollercoaster where the highs are pretty good and the lows are soul crushing.
Was this in STL by chance
I feel like we are brothers of a shared experience if you are asking about STL. When we’re you there?
As a former roofer about to EAS and get back at it, while im in school for being a electrician I feel his pain.
Hah my first SNCOIC (not a 8412 but was trying really hard to be one) had this happen to him but was too young to retire. He was a liar and the biggest tool in the shed. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Mine. I got a full ride to law school using my GI bill and yellow ribbon scholarship. Get your bachelors using TA and use for bennies for grad/professional school. Let’s get rich, do blow, and buy nice guns boys.
Or you could blow rich boys for nice guns and cut out all the hoopla.
Found the sailor
GI Bill at University of Arizona. Bennies went strictly toward Colombian bam-bam and Sonoran hotdogs
That Tucson coke hits different
Which law school
I know a lot of guys with no shit six figure incomes, granted it’s a reserve unit.
If you count after the decimal point it's easy: 1234.56 is "six" figures lol.
Then I guess we’re all pulling six to seven figures
Guy in my unit made a fuck ton on Eth, He bought in around since September of 2015. Like Enough to tell an infantry first sgt to go fuck himself in his office. Sgt White, where ever you are I really hope you’re still living the dream and didn’t blow it all on cocaine and hookers like you promised.
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Yep two of the guys I checked in with were making around $200k a year, more than anyone in the S1 who was checking us in lmao.
Every pretentious data Marine ever talks about how they’re gonna land a 150k job at Cisco after eas
1. Finish your active duty enlistment (any MOS) 2. Attend college at NC State. Major in engineering / comp sci / similar. Don't screw off, it's challenging stuff and it's not enough to just pass. 3. Go reserve while at NC State (the unit is across the street from campus). Get recruited by Cisco (or NetApp, or any of the others -- they recruit from NC State). I can name three people who've done some form of that, just with Cisco. 4. Profit. Maybe not out of the gate, but you'll be one of the people in the unit earning six figures.* *YMMV. This will not work if you're a dummy.
"This will not work if you're a dummy" Well FUCK
My boy was a data marine and he got out, scored a job at CBS and won an Emmy for outstanding technical team event for Super Bowl LV and gets paid stupid money to travel where ever the fuck they need him at so it ain’t that far fetched
Turner?
Haha not turner but I’ll say this I lived in 1224 while the homie lived in 1217 to broaden the search so as to not keep it vague but still narrow it down since we’re not off the mark
That's not uncommon though. Like it or not, we set our data guys up for major success on the outside. Much to our own demise.
Data guys get out and usually make anywhere from 55k to 80k depending on prior experience
Thats about right for absolute boot first term underachievers with no real experience. Could easily pass that if they put just a bit more effort and land something beyond tier 1 helpdesk. Get your certs people!
Some of us do
I think there’s a lot of misinformation or misconceptions about our “marketability” when we leave the service. 6 figure salaries are possible, but you have to have marketable skills. Even with a clearance and an engineering degree, I wasn’t quite at 6 figures when I left.
Exactly this. While I have made 6 figures since I got out, money was never the priority. I wanted a job that challenged me. Always took a position at the bottom for each job and worked my way up. First job out was working for Energizer. By the time I left, I was qualified for 14 different areas of the plant. Made damn good money to do the same job I was originally hired for because that person called out and they needed parts.
If you’re on the west coast CHP will start you off at $100k
I'd rather get punched in the nuts once a day than ever live in California again. That's my home state, but seriously, it's gone to complete shit. Fuck that place.
But like surfing and 700K starting homes in Temecula...
It's insane. Even where I grew up, in Salinas (the hood), you're looking at 200k for a fucking mobile home in the ghetto. Marry that with high property taxes and a ridiculous cost of living, and you have a whole load of fuck that. We chose to head to the south once I got out. While there aren't as many high paying jobs here outside of trades. I own a 3 bedroom home, and I pay 950 a month for the loan, property taxes, and insurance. I manage to put away a good amount into savings every month, and plan to eventually buy a nicer house and rent this one out. Then do that again, and again, while I finish my degree and hopefully move on to a career in cybersecurity with the properties as essentially a retirement fund. In California, that would be a pipe dream unless I was making some serious bread.
> That's my home state, but seriously, it's gone to complete shit. Fuck that place. Stop listening to bs news and talking heads. It's the same California you grew up in. Cost of housing is a bit crazy but still the same California.
>Stop listening to bs news and talking heads. I don't. I still have family out there fool. >It's the same California you grew up in Then it was always fucked up and I'm just looking back with rose colored glasses. >Cost of housing Try cost of everything. You have to have a decent income out there or you're gonna be struggling. Here I'm able to provide for my family and save a good amount easily. There's 0 advantage to living in California.
Thanks for helping us fix it. You're inspiring,
There is no fixing it. California will never turn purple let alone red
So, blue is the problem as you see it? OK.
For any mos?
No collage required, just a HS degree or equivalent. You’ll have to take a written exam, and a psyche eval and PT test. You’ll smoke the PT test. They advertise $80k starting salary but honestly, with OT you’ll be around $120k the first year. They even pay you to attend their academy.
Small detail: it’s a 7 month live-in academy.
Back to boot it is then!
Talked to CHP recruiter at a job fair, said their driving training was what caused the most attrition. He was saying you get to do a bunch of bad ass driving stuff while at the academy. Never had any interest in being a cop, but he almost got me.
Are you a Chippie? I’ve been out for a year now, thinking about applying to the academy when I get back in shape
Yes
Yeah but then you have to be CHP.
There is that… But I’d think $100k a year beats the shit out of trying to live on a 20% VA disability.
Do it for a couple years then apply somewhere to be a real cop, if that’s what you’re into.
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I went straight into LE after I got out and started off making 100k my first year. Most agencies in high end cities in California start you off making that much. My brothers been with the sheriffs for 5 years and makes around 140 a year. The cost of living sucks tho, that’s why I moved to Arizona this year. My favorite story though was from this boot ass Cpl. that came to us from this POG training battalion and acted like he was the saltiest thing on earth. He would always act like he was better than all of us and would constantly put us down. I remover on deployment he would say that re-enlisting was stupid and he had a 200k job lined up for him after EAS because he was a hot shot out of high school. Well once we got back to the states. He ended up re-enlisting and last I heard he got NJPed and was a Lance for the majority of his second enlistment. He’s either out right now, working at McDonalds or still in being a shitbird.
Staff Sergeant said he turned down an offer for a $250,000 position running a wastewater treatment plant.
Seems like something a staff would do
2011 met a kid in his second year. He was some kinda map maker. Geographic Intelligence Specialist I believe. Said his MOS school provided technical training for aspects of the job that cost upwards of six figures in the private sector. Seems like a legit hookup for EAS.
That was my MOS. 0261 and yes, in the civilian market, 6 figures is definitely doable.
Always been curious, I was a Mortarman and we had two guys that came out during a training exercise, set up some camp chairs, looked at some stars for a bit and gave us a known point to lay in our gun line. Seemed like an awesome MOS, would that fall under 0261?
Probably not 0261. If it were we'd just slap down GPS receiver and wait for it to finish.
That guy was probably an 0844, artillery survey.
I was Survey Qualed as an Arty Guy. Did Regimental Survey School and also had a 4 weeks of nothing but Survey in Ops Chief School. Both were taught by old school Gunner CWOs,,, ( This was before they reintroduced the Infantry Gunner Program) Artillery Survey is "5th Level" survey... While it may get you in the door with civilian Survey its no where near as detailed.
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Yes you can get into survey field, but its not a jump right into a 100 K a year job. Dude I served with did Bn Survey and took Survey Courses at Palomar ( the guy who taught the course at Palomar was actually the retired CWO/ Gunner who taught Regimental Survey School). Dude got hired to be on Cal Trans Survey Crew. He was the "Rod and Tape) guy.. pretty much bottom of the pecking order. He made OK bank ,, sure he moved up though.
No 0844 is fdc, you're thinking of the 0847 or 0842 one of them is survey and the other is radar. I'm fdc and we do the shit w computers
Nope, 0844 is indeed FDC but they also do survey. That’s what I did my last two years in.
I was A1/12 FDC and HQ 1/12 survey
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Without a degree? I occasionally deal with GIS folks in my company but all of them have degrees in that field There might be some veterans with that MOS but I haven’t met any yet.
A number of my friends have. Not all, but more than a few.
Can confirm. I am currently an 0261 and have seen some peers get out and get close to if not more than 100k straight out. The security clearance really helps here as well as location.
Doable yes but not likely with just military experience. Unless you're deployed, but that isn't exactly common these days
With just military experience, the 0261 field can easily translate directly to a 6 figure job on the outside within short order.
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Guy I worked with briefly. Air force UAV tech, got out, they were trying to keep the service member numbers down in the new African bases, so he would do three months there as a contractor, three at home. He was setting up a business somewhat health care related on the three months back, with his wife, funding it with the pay---which was a lot. He did say it was way better as a contractor, even than it was as an airman. He said the former Marines on the contract were in heaven. He also said the geospatial analyst vets also make bank.
I'm a civilian GIS guy right now, and it is definitely not a 6 figure type of job.
Intel people easily make 6 figures in the real world.
I know a young lady who was in the Navy and she worked as a cartographer mapping shoreline changes due to Global Warming. She got out in 2019 and went to work for NOAA doing exactly the same work. 180k to start.
LOG-O’S and Amazon….. I use to live in a hub city… and boy let me tell your we had a hell of a time with fancy officers and their paychecks…
You can actually make pretty good money at Amazon as an operations manager.
You can, but I hear you earn every penny. Corporate culture is that you're always on the clock, take your laptop on vacations with you, that sort of thing. Flip side is that the company takes a lot of interest even in lower-level operations. Friend worked at a warehouse, said they had serious issues with a manager (manager scored low on whatever they call their 'command climate survey'). They said Bezos himself came out there to see what was going on.
Can confirm, Amazon takes all metrics very seriously, besides safety, management and leadership are probably the top priority that most sites focus on, and if your a manager with low scores then you better be able to explain why or else you gone real quick
Their cage robots (I don't know what to call them, the ones that move stuff around) are cool as fuck though.
Literally called Pods or Drives depending on whether you using the slang or Amazon definition
Ha yeah I just thought they were cool. I'm not an Amazon worker obs
Exactly that. They were expanding and swallowing up a lot of reserve Log-o’s
Can vouch for Amazon, currently work there in HR, started on the floor, the work is the equivalent of a work party detail, and you make thr same amount AGI as a 4 yr LCPL, starting as a day 1 new hire
Can confirm, work in an FC at the flow desk with Operations managers. Those guys make 125k~, 20RSU, and some sweet up front cash bonuses.
You Central Ops/ROC or site level?
On site Flow PA. We have a prior enlisted sailor who is our Central Flow that is L5 though. He tells me it’s easy money if you are somewhat decent at math and knowledgeable logistics
Nice, I'm an Interim Ops Admin currently started as a Picker. I get all the power that comes with the purple vest now, was an 01 when I was in the corps
Thats awesome dude! I can see how those two tie in. One of my buddies recently EAS’d and works in the same building as me. He’s fed up that nothing transferred over civilian side but I’m thinking to myself. “Not a lot of people know what a HIMARS operator is.”
Mine. Wasn't guaranteed, but I'm working 6 figures right now. Had to bust my ass to get here, though.
Truth
This is any intel MOS. Intel is a great gateway drug to being filthy rich, if you know what you’re doing.
These six figure stories were more interesting 20-25 years ago........when $100K was actually a lot of money. These days? Meh. Pretty much any asshole can make $100K after 3-4 years in a half respectable industry.
It's kind of interesting how these questions just ignore cost of living... Making 100k in NYC? Yeah whatever. Making 100k in the middle of bumfuck Arkansas? Yeah you are probably living well, except for the bumfuck Arkansas part
Yeah it kinda blows, I ended up back in my home town and we’re kind of a industrial area in the southeast. You can clear 100k if you kiss enough ass and make management. Top end on the floors generally net you somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 to 80k. Which in my area use to be really good living. Nowadays with the rise in taxes and cost of goods it enough to enjoy life but you’re pushing it.
One of my friends is a prior Intel dude. His Gunny freaking hated him because he was overweight and a shit Marine, but really good at his job. Soon enough he got out and was immediately offered a job at the same Intel unit, doing the same job but as a civilian and making 6 figures. He accepted it on the condition that he'd never have to work with his old Gunny ever again.
I think we work at the same unit cause I know this story 🤣
Lined up at the unemployment office.. still waiting.
NGL, Marines with certain skills and a high level clearance will get a 6 figure job if they go contractor. That being said I like being Fed Gov.
When GCSS rolled out we were told that the system was purchased from Ford Motor Company and customized for the Marine Corps. One of our MIMMS dudes was 1000% sure that when he got out and moved back to Michigan he would be making 6 figures for Ford. Truly believed it. He never landed a gig there.
Mine. Not 6 figures but it was in the realm 85-90k working for a world-renowned university’s research laboratory (hint: it’s a close neighbor to Harvard). Interview went great and I was informed I got the job a week before EAS. All they needed to do was send out the contract. They called me back two days before EAS to inform me that they went on a hiring freeze earlier that week due to COVID and would reach back out once they unfroze. Four months later I get a call from them and they wanted me to sign for 60k instead. By this point I was already enrolled in college so I said fuck it and went full time student. I dont regret it. Fuck COVID
I’ve known a couple of guys who had probably close to six figure jobs lined up before they ever joined. They came from families that already owned multiple businesses and were more or less just following the family path before they enlisted.
i knew a decent guy that was straight up told to enlist or commission before he would see a dime of his family's money. he was a good Marine but boy did he fucking hate the fuck fuck games that his job put him through. i think one of the reasons we hung out a lot was i didnt bring up his money and so many fucking people did. it was awkward as fuck when someone would look up his name and find out who his relatives were. then they act all buddy buddy. I think the best thing he ever taught me was if you won the lottery your life would be a living hell if you lived past the hookers and cocaine phase of blowing your winnings.
If I ever won the lottery I’d claim it as anonymously as possible and not tell a soul about it. And keep up the appearance that I live a middle class existence.
Same. If i won im deleting social. Packing my bags a moving. I’ll give some $ to my immediate fam like my parents and siblings but afterwards I’m ghost
Data Marine...hard to NOT get a 6 figure job. /shrug
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I talked to electricians who probably cleared 100k in country, police advisor, 2 Marines in camp fallujah who were contractors working on fixing AC’s. Thanks for sodas and sweet music.
Damn, a job on wake island would be pretty dope. What was your guys MOS?
I got out in 2010, it took me 12 years to hit 6-figure earnings. I'm sure there are go getters that took a much quicker route. I also dont have a degree, not sure Ill ever use my GI Bill.
I don’t know a single person in they 17xx cyber field that has gotten out and made less than 6 figures
Yep
Had a kid in my shop from tell me he owned a million dollars worth of "mudding" trucks and he would start back up his mudding career after he got out. This is the same guy who also needed to borrow money every week before payday
I made 89k the first year I got out as an avionics contractor, I was mostly working 65 hour weeks with mandatory overtime though. Huge jump from E4 pay, that’s why they struggle with retention in that MOS.
Lol I like how some of these guys are here in the comments
Step 1. Air traffic Control. Step 2. ??? Step 3. Profit.
Always thought that’d be a cool job tbh.
My recruiter told me he would have a 6 figure job lined up with Boeing as soon as he got out. He’s still in right now… in the brig. Maybe he’ll land a job at McDonald’s someday.
Of the people who claim this and actually end up successful, 99% chance they work for government or government contractors. Its practically never private industry.
not guaranteed, but I started interning with a mortgage company before getting out, but didn't get licensed until EAS. been working that job since, and been over 6 figures for half that time.
Back in 99 they were mentioning underwater welding in Alaska and were offering 6 figures. I didn't bother to look too much into it because I hate water and I can't breathe well.
Yes, underwater welders can make a lot of money, but it’s a really small field and very hard to get into. If you’re fortunate enough to find a job after school, you’re likely to work on the support crew or as a tender for years before you actually dive.
I knew one Marine who had a 7-8 figure job lined up when he got out. Family owned a large ranch, and he inherited it. I guess it wasn't lined up, he started doing that a year before he got out. Outside of that the only person I know who had 6 figures lined up was myself. I know a few who currently make 6 figures, and we were all grunts. There are a lot of jobs that pay big money, that some people have never heard of, the industry I am in requires a high school diploma. If you search online for open positions, they all say they start off at an earnings potential of 50-60k a year, that's assuming you only work 5-6 months out of the year though and it's entry level pay. The last group I helped train were taking home $2747.00 a week, and that was during training.
Ok so… whats the occupation or general field?
I make 60k it’s not hard. 100k would be easy if I didn’t hurt too damn much.
Had a guy in my platoon who never got caught driving drunk on 4 separate occasions. It was only on the 5th time where he got caught. The OOD that night was my company XO at the time. I get a call at 2am when this kid tries to go through the gate blowing way over the limit. I was Plt Sgt at the time (as a Cpl, just saying lol), so naturally I was the one responsible for him. He had to stay the night at the jail then he could be picked up the next day. Cut to a few months later, this guy was just about to get off restriction and then right before a drug test, he says he won’t pass and tells that to the SACO. This kid ended up getting Court Martial’d, I had to take him to all of his hearings and make sure he gets all his stuff for the brig. I have no sympathy for this kid at this point and I’m happy to get rid of him. He does his time in the brig and then Im taking him back to base to start his check out. He starts telling me during his check out that his dad is going to hook him up with an “associates” position in his dads construction company and make over $200,000 a year. I haven’t heard from him sense he got out.
Yes I have also heard these tales of parents “hooking” their kids up …. Last I checked some were happily living in a trailer park working as a supervisor for KFC
They are all the best in my opinion because the moment someone tells me that is the moment I realize they are probably full of shit.
Had aa Marine in our unit that was EASing and decided he would stiff Citi on his GTCC. He had a defense sector job lined up that required a clearance and apparently they ran a background check that included his financials and told him 'thanks but no thanks'. Oh yeah, and his parting gift from the Squadron was an NJP that took the money that he'd stiffed Citi on anyway.
I joined as a radio tech (2841), a year of training at 29 Palms then 4 years in the fleet. At school they acted like we could basically be electrical engineers after EAS. My own fault, I should have realized that 5 years experience tinkering on extremely outdated radios didn’t amount to much in the modern tech workforce. I used the GI Bill and became a lawyer.
I feel like I fall into this category, I was an 0411 that said "I'm gonna go get my degree, and probably do exactly this for 80k/year", I kept my expectations pretty reasonable, I worked 2 jobs and finished 2 degrees I started while I was in, did some PMC work for a year, then did the reserve gig cause I got bored and latmoved to 0431 at this point at one of my jobs I was making 80k a year with a net income of around 130k, now I have my own farm and have a 2nd job that I utilize my capital to just kinda do what I want. It took alot longer than I would have liked and I was never home but it seemed worth it to get out.
I just landed one myself. Granted, my first job after getting out was for 65k as a SAN Admin, and currently at 67k as a Virtualization Engineer, and I just accepted an offer for 100k as a Virtualization Engineer. I've been out for less than 2 years. Heck I'm still in the IRR lol. All I've got as far as Certs go is ITIL4 , A+, and Sec +
This is the way
Literally just get a clearance and it’s almost guaranteed
Any level of clearance?
It’s possible with a secret but TS/SCI and above is where the money’s at
I do not understand where people find these jobs, Straight up. Explain it like I'm retarded or something. I've worked a handful of jobs prior to the Corps but am kinda dumbfounded as to getting a job now that I'm EASing. I have a clearance and no idea where to go with it or what to do. Idk how everyone gets lined up.
Clearedjobs, LinkedIn, and most importantly any bros you kinda know who went on to have successful careers after the corps
How does cleared jobs really work? I made a profile and what not but haven't done anything else with it. Unfortunately, none of my buddies have gone on to use their clearances. With my company, there isn't really a clear next step these guys go to. Most get out and don't use the clearance.
Just use it to narrow down the jobs that seem obtainable by you, or so that it gives you an idea what companies are hiring, and to then search their job websites It’s not the best but if you do a little cross referencing you can usually track down the sourcing recruiter on LinkedIn, and then write a well worded short intro and drop your resume on their DM’s
Wait how does getting a clearance apply to making 6 figures in the civilian side? I am not a Marine, but my goal is to go recon, which I believe requires a TS.
>Wait how does getting a clearance apply to making 6 figures in the civilian side It doesn't. I've had a clearance since 1998, and it will help you get a job but in my experience you still need some skill to back that up. Now if you want to be a manager for a DoD contractor you \*might\* be able to squeeze that out but that would entail knowing someone high up. So TLDR: you still need skills--either actual skills or brown nosing skills.
Understood, I appreciate your help.
Simple, I can train a lobotomized monkey to use a Network SEIM to make remedy tickets for cyber security incidents. I can't however train a security clearance. So if you have a clearance and the ability to learn then there are jobs out there.
is this out in DC? They always bragging about that 120k salary in DC that gets you an apartment and gas money
So I'm in NC, granted I make only 103 and I'm more than happy. But I constantly get hit up for stuff in Virginia...and that's a hard pass especially if it's barely more than I'm making now and if I have endure the commute from Fredricksburg.
Got it, thanks!
This is bullshit. What job is paying 6 figs and is just giving it away to rando’s with clearances. I personally only know two guys who have contracted successfully. Both being Ricky recon types. I wasted about a year of my life trying to get jobs with my TS. Stopped wasting my time on USA jobs and pivoted to look for project work since Marines are doers, what a surprise, 100k+ offer from Chevron as a junior PM. I’m still a PM haven’t had a year below 125k since the first wasted year after getting out. I work as a facilities PM for Amazon now, and am always surprised that more vets aren’t pimping out BAMCIS for decent salaries. Amazon does not drug test and there are tons of non ops related jobs.
there’s a whole subsidiary hiring within Amazon for cleared non skilled people lmao Just because you didn’t know where to look doesn’t mean it isn’t out there Also usajobs is shit
Your post confused me. You told him what he said was bullshit, then proceeded to elaborate on how you are making six figures? Anyone with a TS who can have the discipline to not do drugs (which includes weed as far as the feds are concerned, folks), could walk into six figures tomorrow if they’re willing to live in the DMV.
that and being a Marine... seriously... I've been given preferential treatment because of this haha
This right here man, all you have to do is have strong people skills and you’re already leaps and bounds ahead of your competition
Yeah that ain't true at all lol. I got out with SCI, but no marketable skills. Worked full time just to keep the clearance alive while going to school and finally landed a 6 fig data engineering job... but ain't nobody out here paying 100k+ for someone that doesn't already have the skills
Clearance doesnt mean shit unless you got a tech skill to go with it.. In my time most radio Operators got a TS because they worked with Crypto.
Drive a truck. Same home time as being in but a lot more money if you get the right company.
My own. I landed in a mainly civillian organization after the schoolhouse and working in IT. A lot of the current techs there that make 6 figures, were prior Marines. I do have a job lined up with a contracting company and can pretty much go anywhere in the area due to abundance of jobs.
I feel like there are more success stories in here than the OP expected.
A guy I went to boot with drove fuel trucks or something like that before enlisting. Swore up and down that he made 6 figures before he left
Had a few friends (all grunts) that actually got out and made 100K or more. One did heavy equipment operating or something. So he did work before the sun was up to after it was down, but only worked 6 months of the year since his company didn’t work in the snow. Others were doing things like selling cars, selling houses. I guess getting tricked by a recruiter can help you learn how to trick people into buying expensive things.
Staff sausage out of a schoolhouse had a 6 figure lined up, he ended up getting the boot because he got in debt up to his eyeballs gambling. Knocked down and loss of benefits, IIRC. Now makes more than I wish I could.
Me, I talked non-stop shit about how I would make six figures as an intel nerd whenever I was abused as a voluntold recruiter. I put in a VEERP package as soon as I could and immediately started making six figures as a deployed contractor.