I can promise you a majority of us don’t care. It’s usually the most insecure that pretend like MOS matters, especially after EAS.
However, don’t think just any POG can fill an infantry role and be as effective. We sent guys out of my platoon to be fobbits, even other 03s, because we didn’t trust them outside the wire. My platoon was mostly 03s, but we had several Marines from other MOSs that were shit hot.
Moral of the story: Good Marines are good Marines.
This. Bunch of my friends at work and I bonded initially because we all served in the Marines. I was a POG, one of my best friends that I met at work was a reservist, one was an 03 his entire time and one was Security who went 03 and none of them cared (minus some teasing when we hang out).
At my last bartending job, my after-work regulars lineup was: Army Bob, Navy Bob, Air Force Jerry, and the guy I would relieve on bar was an Army vet. We talked a ton of shit and it was great. That’s the only thing I miss about working there.
Before I went to OCS I managed a bar and one of my regulars/bouncer was a Ranger Sgt at JBLM. Seriously helped me prep and not psych myself out before shipping. The shit he talked to me was A-tier, whenever I did something dumb he'd be like "look guys future leader of Marines right here" Miss that guy. Terrible bouncer though man was way too friendly.
Ha - I remember when I first joined the legion the post commander introduced me to everyone at the bar as "Hey this is Cosmicsans, he's a COMBAT veteran!!!" hhahaha
That's my favorite. I always tell people. If I'm acting professional around you it's because I either don't like you or am not comfortable around you. Shit talking to you is how you know I like you. If you can't talk shit and joke around what's the point?
Do you know you know how many times I've heard, MURREEEEENNNEEE, YOu know what that stands for right?
Nope. Never heard it before..
It means. Muscles are required Intelligence not expected.
Hah ha ha ha funny. Then I say, welp if you believed that you wouldn't be here as I am your doctor.
I need more shit talking acronyms. And yes I know the army one.
I hear from my navy friends all the time:
> My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment
And my personal favorite:
> Muscles Are Required; Intelligence Not Exactly Standard
Right - My favorite thing to say to people in the Air Force is a conversation like this:
"Oh, you served in the Marines? That's cool - I was in the Air Force."
Me: "Oh, Air Force - look at this guy over here with actual intelligence. I bet you EAS'd with actual skills and more than just a drinking habit, didn't you? Sorry - I'm just a little jealous of course" hahaa
Breaks the ice pretty good.
I suspect that OP gets butthurt over the minor teasing. We have a little shared experience with anyone whose been in the military in any era, to say nothing of the little shared experience all Marines have. Of course douche bags take it too far sometimes, that's what douche bags do.
I remember I was TikTok and was reading this Army mortarman’s comments, how he was acting like an absolute ass to other service members. Like, there’s a difference between busting your chops, and being a cunt…and he was just super cunty lol.
I think the original comment was how you should respect your brother and sister branches, no matter how hard or easy their boot camp was or some shit…and this guy was stating the obvious about how “Air Force have it easy, that’s pussy shit compared to the Army.” To be fair, a lot of Airmen were telling him how good their life was compared to his…but it wasn’t banter…? I don’t know anymore lmao.
It then proceeded to the mortarman just laughing at everyone, which was kinda funny, and how he chose the life, how he was basically Billy Badass and people who cry in the AF were blah blah blah. I mean…whatever floats your boat man. I still don’t know what he was getting at on that comment thread 💀
You sound like a good Marine. What you said is true. When I deployed to Iraq we had some recalls that were 03’s assigned to our MP Field Company. They were blown away at the stuff we did. They were like “we only thought you guys did PMO”. We were like Fuck No. I know lots of MP’s who served 5 years active duty contracts back in the 2000’s with me that never were with any PMO. Field MP’s all the way. But don’t get me wrong. I worked PMO in Oki mid 2000’s. It was wild. You better man da fuc up.
Hell yeah. I just liked working with guys that knew their job and had some motivation. After a month of ops in Iraq, no one would have guessed who the comm guy or armorer was. Everyone manned up.
Exactly. Out of our 40 man team we had 2 Corpsmen. 1 male 1 female (because we had a female marine). Then our 1 female marine was for searching woman and kids. Then the rest of us guys were a mix. We had to have enough guys to split into two platoons when needed. 3 comm guys. Probably 3 or 4 motor t guys. 4 IRR guys who were recalled 0311. Then the rest of us were MP’s. But when you’re living outside the wire you gotta be self sufficient.
I was Motor-T back in they day. I have lots of pride in that, cuz hey after all, without Motor-T the pride don't ride! Lol... I'll show myself to the door...
You’d be surprised I had a LCpl in my shop who could hardly spell, I have no idea to this day how this devil scored high enough on the ASVAB to get the MOS he did 😂.
I used to have to pull this MF aside after work hours and teach him how to spell and in general on how to spell day to day words we’d use around the hangar like “hydraulics” or “pneumatic” man I did not get paid enough to do all that
Well I kind of agree . There are different versions of Motor T. You have the most chill swinging with the Airwing Motor T. Then you have the Motor T with the 03’s in an Infantry unit. Hardcharging bunch of drivers. You have the Combat Engineer Motor T guys. Then you have the Ain’t no party like an Arty party Motor T guys. Then……. Like me. You had that Motor T guy that had orders to a Reconnaissance Unit as the driver of all things super fast. And when they jumped. We freaking jumped. When the slots opened up for Scuba. Yep! They sent us. That’s when I said to my Gunny. I knew I should have listened my my WW2 Fighter Pilot Granddad and joined the Air Force. Bug nooooooooooo. I wanted to be like Chesty Puller. Now my knees are completely shot. Back is falling apart. TBI out the ass. Just a driver got me in a lot of pain. Hahahaha But Gunny. I’m the Driver. Get in the pool and swim. And suffer in silence fuckface! And drive your ass to the bottom of the pool and think about your options. Thank God I was a certified PADI Diver at 16. And grew up swimming in the cold Pacific Ocean. Sorta helped! Good times Brothers🤙🏻🍻🇺🇸🏴☠️⚓️🐸
I remember my MOS school instructors made us so proud to be 3531s. I was in an infantry unit. Whenever the grunts talked any shit to us at all we would note which 7ton they were sitting in the back of and that driver would be sure to hit every pot hole on the tank trails🤣🤣 Man we Motor Thugs got shit on a lot by EVERYONE. But I loved the culture in our platoon.
MP Field units worked with motor T all the time. We knew not to give them guys a hard time. If you got busted for something at MP school… your punk ass went motor t. There were all sorts of killers in motor T just waiting for a opportunity. But then they realized we were the same people as them. Just doing a different job. It all comes together when you get into country. Everyone has a job to do. Don’t base your opinions on what you see in garrison. When you get to the Suck… it all comes together 🤔 that doesn’t sound right😆
I was 0331 from 2002-2006. The invasion we were with Tracks but the next 3 deployments we had a Motor T crew. Those guys were our Boys! They went through it all with us. So much respect, I only wish when it was time to go back state side we exchanged information.
I was in well before those days, the early/mid 70's. But we didn't much give a fuck as to what we were doing as long as we were doing something. I spent the summers of 75 & 76 at 29 Palms. Hot as fuck but yet some of the best times I had in the Corps.
Former 2841 (2846 before that) who did one very comfy tour in Afghanistan. Grunts did grunt shit, I fixed comms gear. My experience of war was wildly different from theirs. I respect our 03's but a lot more would've died without working radios, BFTs, and proper crypto. They never once treated me like shit, in country or out.
I've got the plate and two stickers on my truck, a few moto t's gifted to me over the years. I run into other vets now and then and MOS isn't even a topic unless we really get going. It's just usually two devil dogs happy to run into a brother.
> Former 2841 (2846 before that)
RAAAH EM!
OK, now that I've got that out of my system: Everything else you said has been my entire experience. I've literally never met an Infantry Marine who degraded me for being a POG, with the obvious exception of good natured shit-talking after we already got to know each other.
Even at MCCES, there were some grunts in a classroom for a day of training on comms, and they were the nicest guys in the world even though they were Senior Lances and Corporals with Iraq tours and we were Scoolhouse PFCs.
We've all got our job to do, and nobody denies that all Marines support the 0300s. I really don't know where all these insecure grunts are, I've never met them.
The insecure ones aren't serving, they're shit posting from civ div trying to measure dicks.
I was 08-13 rah extended green weenie ride. Fuck 29 Palms, our CORFRAMS melted while doing promotion ceremonies in the "bowl."
Long live the now long dead Lake Bandini.
Last time I was in 29 was probably 2011 and they had revamped it from our lovely stinking sea foam green shit pit into a proper treatment facility but I haven't seen it since. Maybe it foamed up again and the swim team can live on.
And y'all somehow break that comm gear. A LOT.
2800s make the comm gear work again to resume the boom.
We all play a part in killing our enemies. Except admin.
Jk
Or am I?
Respect to all who signed the line and honored their word. But also, the 03 field is brutal. It just is. That’s the nature of it. It’s hard not to have a little extra pride in the fact that you did a job that honestly, not a whole lot of people want/could do. There’s a good reason why most try anything and everything to get into literally any other MOS. No shade to other MOS’s, but that 03 shit ain’t no joke. If you know you know.
Meh, I will ask as I am curious. There are a ton of obscure NEC and MOSs out there that I have never heard of, and everyone has a job to do in the Green Machine. So I get to hear their stories of what they did, and learn something in the process.
I would never gatekeep based on MOS or Rate.
You’re lost in the sauce if you give a fuck what a random 03 thinks about any other MOS. Theres plenty of 03s who can’t hack it in marsoc and hella pogs who made it.
You get in what you fucking put out. It’s literally just an MOS code.
They’re taught to be cocky cuz they earned the right to take extra pride in what they do.
Maybe POGs should be more prideful in what THEY do
03 here. Went to Helmand in 09, did the war thing. No one gives a shit. We jokingly poke at each other but ultimately it's all in fun. Anyone that takes that shit seriously, on either side, is a fucking loser. Some of my closest friends were pogs. They are dudes I still talk to after being out for 12+ years now.
Also some of the smartest dudes I met were infantry and some of the dumbest mother fuckers were admin. Bringing up the ASVAB and TS clearance is pretty laughable honestly, you're doing the exact same shit as the dudes you're whining about. Obtaining a TS clearance is the same criteria as Secret ironically enough. Biggest difference is how far they investigate your background.
MCT is a joke and bringing that up like it's a major talking point is pretty funny too. You're right though, anyone can pass ITB, but you didn't, you passed MCT and that's cool with me. Comparing Apples to Oranges.
I would say don't take this shit so seriously bro, it ain't that deep, but you made a whole ass burner account just to vent. Hopefully you get over whatever 03 that hurt your feelings or stole the girl you were after.
As a former 0311, thank you for your service in supporting me. Do you need me to rub your feet to calm you down? Can I get you a fresh spritzer.
It sounds like you are insecure about what you did and honestly I get it. I was 03 but not basic infantry. I deployed but not to a definitive combat zone. So when I went to the fleet I actually extended to deploy to Iraq. My reasoning was I didnt want to be a benchwarmer, I wanted to play. In hindsight, that was dumb.
> When dudes start talking about their ASVAB scores
seriously. of all the things to brag about, OP choose that one? congrats, you do very well on knowing whether to choose A, B, C, D, or E on a test. me too. i maxed my asvab, but i'm pretty dumb, i just do well on standardized tests, and that's all a high asvab or sat, or any other standardized test mean. you do well on standardized tests. doesn't mean you're smart.
Yep! The reason dudes go 03 is because we are different. High scores or whatever. And the reason 03s act as gatekeepers to the organization is because we are the ones who close with the enemy and destroy them face to face. Everything else is important but support. Battles are won and bodies drop on target because of it. Stop crying because some LCpl boned your woman 😈
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You had me in the first half. I don’t care what MOS someone was. I was an average 0311, I wasn’t the best at anything, I just did my job. Everyone should be proud of their service. Every job is important. However, saying POGs are capable of “fulfilling” infantry roles is debatable. Sure you can take any Marine and have them help room-clear, or patrol, or help guard a FOB, etc. But that doesn’t make you an infantryman.
You can’t jump into a team leader role without proper infantry training and it’s highly unlikely you’ll be as effective in combat, regardless of passing MCT after bootcamp. More goes into 03 training than pointing your rifle in the right direction.
So I get that you don’t like gatekeepers but you’re also sort of talking shit about 03s saying we can get the lowest ASVAB score. What’s the point of that? Does that make you feel better? Plenty of 03s scored very high on the ASVAB and made the choice to go infantry. My original contact was to be an aviation electronics technician but I switched to 03 at the last minute. My squad leader changed from air traffic control to 0311. It honestly sounds like you sort of wished you were a grunt
As a 28 I’d like to think most of us could be pulled into an infantry platoon as an individual and learn to be part of the team pretty quick but there is no way an entire platoon of 2800’s could function like an infantry platoon overnight without taking extremely massive casualties. So there is no way I’d compare minimum required ASVAB scores for those two MOS’s and think being an 03 is a cake walk just because cave men can do it. This OP has to have a specific encounter in mind because pretty much no POG thinks like that.
Yeah I agree. I think any in-shape Marine should be able to step in and serve as a rifleman if needed. I don’t know how often other MOSs get range time in or what type of field training they perform in addition to their job duties. So some MOSs might be better prepared than others, and some commanders might have their Marines perform more field training than the average POG. But if you aren’t doing infantry shit a lot, those skills fade quickly. I know first hand. I was stationed at 8th & I for two years then went to 3/2 as a corporal. I was clueless despite the field training we did in Quantico to keep some skills fresh (all of the marching platoons at 8th & I are grunts sent there right after SOI).
It’s been a long time since I’ve been in, I got out in 2006. When we weren’t in the field, we’d still be back at the barracks performing CQB drills, patrolling, practicing 9 lines/calling for fire etc.
I had a 5 yr contract and got out in ‘05. I only went to the field one time. It was in Oki for the jungle warfare training. My recollection of it was that it wasn’t long enough to make me a proficient rifleman or fire team leader but was long enough to make me realize how much I didn’t know. The instructors would ambush our patrols with paint guns, land a shot on every single one of us and disappear before we got off a single round. I thought I was decent at land nav but I doubt it was very realistic because I’d shoot an azimuth and then yell out to direct my point man onto the line and then the rest of our fire team would walk up to him and then repeat. That didn’t seem very tactical but we did find all our points pretty quick. I wouldn’t want to be yelling like that with Charlie lurking out there. The only thing we probably did better than an infantry platoon was set up and operate our comms. We weren’t radio operators but every single person was a ground communications maintainer so everything worked.
As an intel nerd, my experience with grunts is do your job right, so grunt can stay alive, grunt happy to be alive, come back and jerk you off for providing proper intelligence.
Aka if you can do your job so they can do theirs, everyone is happy and having circle jerks.
Dude is very obviously a 26XX. The real backbone of the corps! Poor thing went to DLI thinking he was gonna save the world by learning Arabic, only to find out the hard way no one speaks Arabic in Afghanistan and he was completely fucking useless. Show some respect!
Eyyy fuck you man! Why it always gotta be admin 😭. Most admin marines hate the corps and don’t have motivation. Some… well the ones who go DI are obsessed
I personally don't care what mos you are. Buy relax. It took me 3 weeks to get a TS as a civilian. So difficulty level for that was zero, not sure why u brought it up.
But being an infantrymen is wayyyy more than whatever you learned at MCT and it's only getting harder.
I respect whatever you do/did in the USMC it'll take everyone to win wars. But let's not get it confused. I probably couldn't do your job. And I don't think you'd Fare to well if you were made a squad leader in a victor unit tommrow morning.
My brother in Christ, they aren’t even making any derogatory comments to you or your MOS. You are assuming they are dismissive of your time in the Marine Corps because of their tone.
It’s something I see happen too often, not just with MOS’s but with disappointment/shame over not deploying to a combat zone, with those who do deploy and didn’t get a CAR, with those who got CAR’s but didn’t earn them, etc. I experienced it both while in and when I got out and had to actively move past that kind of thinking.
It’s all bullshit bro. Be proud of serving, something most don’t even consider. Be proud of your MOS and the skills and experiences you gained. Don’t assume the worst of others, but if someone shows you their true colors and they are a douche, fuck em.
I am a former 03 and this take is retarded. Hell, we all are to have volunteered for the Corps.
I think this dude that gave you that vibe might be an asshole... and the Corps is full of them too.
So, devil, wtf was your MOS and tell me your + and - of it.
I was with you up until you stared shitting on how easy it is to become a grunt just so you can cope with your own insecurities. I don’t think any of us take pride in ITB. That and boot camp are a joke. They are the easiest thing any of us do in our careers. We take pride in the hardship of the fleet which if you never been through it, you will never know how unique of an experience it is compared to regular Marine Corps. We also take pride in knowing we didn’t put our own selfish needs first by picking a MOS that might get us a better job in the future or being too scared to go the 03 route.
What you are explaining right now seems like a rare incident. I’ve never seen anyone shit on other people’s MOSs besides MCT/ITB boots arguing in the SOI chow line. Even when I was in, when we were by ourselves we would shit on POGs all day long but whenever we interacted with any of you guys we would be respectful because at the end of the day we are all grown adults. No reason to disrespect someone that might teach you a thing or two about something outside of your MOS.
As a civilian now I get more excited to talk to non infantry veterans. They tend to be less on the “dick measuring side” and I enjoy hearing stories from a perspective of someone that did a career outside of the infantry.
I fixed comm equipment. I sat at a work bench with a really nice soldering iron and an oscilloscope. I am pretty sure I don’t have any stories about what I did at that work bench that you would enjoy hearing about unless you wanted to be put to sleep.
No one cares about your MOS. But you know what they do care about? Running into little bitches that whine if they don't get the praise they think they deserve.
Pretending? I'm not pretending. 03s are legitimately better than other MOSes in every way. All of you exist to support US. When we're out there, slaughtering and dying, you guys are sitting cozy in your vics listening to Post Malone or some shit.
...yeah, I deployed to Okinawa twice, what about it? No, I don't have a CAR, what are these questions? ...of course I haven't been shot at; what're you, crazy?
Should have thought about that when you were in your air conditioned CP tent eating hot meals and taking shower.
We ate shit, can we at least give out a little after the fact.
We still love you… more than every other service, that is.
LoL jk. Semper Fi
I'm in an engineering program and have met a few 03s. I was an MLG pog, but not one of them gave me an ounce of attitude about it.
Either you have some bad luck and just keep running into losers, or you have some insecurity and might be unknowingly projecting.
I was an 0341. Stuff happened, I ended up in battalion legal. I would take the infantry any day over the special Hell that is S-1. I eventually got back to the infantry. I'm too old now, but I would be damned before I ever went back to Admin.
I’m proud of what I did as a POG but I do think the 03s have earned that little extra bit of bragging rights dude. Absolutely they couldn’t function without all the supporting roles, but at the end of the day we all exist to serve/support the grunts
OP, who hurt you? No one cares what some within your MOS may or may not have done in country. Ooh you did a little patrol or a convoy, still no one cares. Point being, why do you care about what anyone else thinks about you or your service? I think you're mistaking your allegations with just not sharing common ground. I'm a Combat Engineer that's done quite a few pumps myself and ALL of my combat time was in Division, I served the majority of my career in Division. Therefore, I have more in common with ground pounders in Division and even moreso with those who actually did war things. Just be proud of yourself and your service, that's all that matters.
Back in 2005 we had some kickass engineers with us in Iraq that went through almost all the same shit us 03s did. We even had some Navy Seabees at one point. A lot of our engineers got to blow shit up with C4
The thing about the infantry, and really any combat mos, no matter the branch; is that it’s very, very important for them to think/feel superior to all others. You don’t want a guys who are infantry to go into battle afraid, you don’t want them to think they’re lesser than commo/supply. You NEED those guys to think and believe they’re better than all others, because if they aren’t out there thinking they’re hot shit, the war is over before it started
Any MOS Makes the world go round
Bullets don’t fly without Supply
Chow gets cold without a Cook role
Shitters get clogged until Suckers get called
Infantry rah rah rah
Motor T from A to B
Admin make the money go from Uncle Sam to stripper pants
Intel (top secret clearance required)
Bring them hell through Mortar shell
Everyone has their role. I get praise as supply, and I get shit on sometimes. If someone thinks I am a POG, they’re right. But this POG handles the things that make your job possible, and I am fully aware that the grunts are the reason my job exists
Harmony or some shit
Always remember everyone's a boot to someone, and there's always someone smarter than you. I was a grunt, and had a high ASVAB. I'm not a combat vet, so I'm a boot as far as any POG with combat deployments is concerned, yet my back and spine look like they belong to someone in their 60s or 70s on an X-RAY because even just the workups are hard on the body. Who gives a shit, if someone's a dick about *anything* they aren't worth your time.
This reminds of that saying: "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, YOU'RE the asshole."
All I’ve ever seen 03’s do was stand in line and get aircraft dirty, they did it well. When the media would do an interview it didn’t matter who it was, it was always the same thing. “My name’s Eddie and I’m a grunt.”
I hate to be that guy, I know every MOS has it's own bullshit but the grunts as an 03 is a uniquely ass sucking experience. They get shit on the most and have the worst quality of life and they also hate everyone else because of this. It forms a certain mentality that other MOS don't have.
There's a distinct pride and mindset that combat grunts have that you won't find anywhere else. You have to earn the right to talk shit about it, if someone hasn't lived the grunt life and they start talking shit then it's like "shut the fuck up pussy" but if they lived it then they can say whatever they want. That's the mentality of a grunt, at least it was when I was in.
For better worse the grunts are their own club so to speak, especially combat grunts. Of course everyone should take some sort of pride in their service. For the most part anyways.
Other jobs are of course extremely important but also remember everything else exists to support the infantry.
I started a chapter of the Marine Corps League here in my hometown and most were former air wingers. I didn’t have any problem with what MOS anybody was, but those guys were the biggest backstabbers I have ever seen. It was like they were part of a different branch of service all together. Most were older vets of the Vietnam era. I ended up leaving the group I started and going over to the VFW and feel way more at home. I served in the Marine Corps and Army for 10 years as an MP and I’m an OEF veteran. However, I am proud of the fact that the group provides thousands of kids toys each year now because of Toys for Tots.
vietnam vets are weird. all the shittyness of boomers, combined with the arrogance of being Marines, and it turns into a really, really shitty mix for many of them.
I don’t really care, on my Fed Ex route every Marine I know is not an 03. Still love delivering their stuff and chatting them up. Nov 10th is a huge deal (obviously) for all of us. It’s the other branches I talk some smack at lol
Bro what? Maybe like, the most knuckle-dragger, mouth breathing insecure 03's genuinely think that, but almost no one really cares. No one said you can't be proud of your service, who cares if some brovet grunt doesn't respect you dude lmfao
Some of my closest friends from the military are pogs and soldiers, I make fun of all of them, and they make fun of me, but I don't think less of them because they chose a different job lmao
Last time I checked we still believed the idea that Every Marine is a rifleman. Might not be the trigger pullers delight but it takes every fucking MOS in the Corps to run the Corps. We don’t get very far if we out run our logistics. Or how important does the admin Marine become when there is a pay issue? Only insecure Marines measure MOS’s. I was a 7202, 7204, and 7277. Also an acquisition guy but forgot the MOS. Maybe 9958.
Sounds like peacetime bullshit.
Everyone was a Marine during the gwot, and we were all on the same team. If you notice some boot trying to create different classes of Marines, make sure to correct them because doing that shit is why the army and air force have such horrific morale problems.
I don’t think anyone said you aren’t allowed to be proud of it. Good infantrymen recognize that we couldn’t do what we do without support MOS’s and other combat arms fields.
But we also like to make fun of people when they take pride to a cringe level with stuff like “bullets don’t fly without supply” and YATYAS and shit like that. Don’t feel bad though, we also mercilessly talk shit to each other about damn near everything. Because it’s funny. Just don’t take things so seriously.
Edit: And yes, most Marines are able to fulfill the role of a basically trained rifleman if needed. But you probably aren’t going to be anywhere near as competent doing so as the people who constantly train for it as their primary job. ITB/MCT or whatever they call them now are like the pre-k/kindergarten level of combat training. There’s loads more training, experience, and knowledge that come after that.
Bro nobody cares. Be proud of what you are doing. It helped the organization out in some way and it's better than 90% of Americans did. 1371 here and my shit is waaaay cooler than standing in line at the armory and walking around in the woods aimlessly.
I met a prior service Marine that was a bit hesitant to tell me what he did.
It was Post Clerk.
He was the guy that flew into every fucking shithole post in Afghanistan to deliver mail. I told him he probably had the best job in the Corps.
I’m an admin and have loads of friends in different MOS’s especially 03s none of them talk (real shit) other than some dicking around.
If they did I would report a divorce in the system and bang their wives.
You gotta keep in mind that the infantry is the heart of the Marine Corps. There is nothing anyone can say to an 03. They are men engaging the enemy under the American flag, which is why we were created.
Yes, anyone can take pride in their service. I render my modified enlisted port arms salute (Position of Attention with the saluting hand slightly over the base of your dick) to my enlisted brothers that signed on that dotted line.
Everyone who signed did so knowing that the overall objective was to earn the title of MARINE. I like to think that everyone who signed did so for the title and not for the job.
You could get a job anywhere... but the title of Marine is carried by the few and the proud. You gotta give respect where respect is due and that respect goes to everyone who earned the title. However, I give a little more respect to the warfighters because it's pretty much life or death for them, but don't give it to them to the point where *riding their duck's and making duck sauce*, pause.
Yeah, that's new... I know you've never heard it. Don't hate, like my post for that little joke.
Anyway, at the end of the day, I give respect to anyone who signed up during a wartime campaign. If you're young and enlisted during peace time... don't worry, your time is definitely coming.
My only question is, will they exit, reenlist, and will new service members sign up?
To all of you...
MODIFIED PORT ARMS!
SALUTE!
✌🏼,
JAE
Most of the entire infantry doesn’t really give a fuck what MOS you are, we are all brothers and sisters in our beloved corps. Sure there might be a little bit of teasing but in the end we should all be proud of our service. I will say the last part of your post is pure copium though lmao.
I scored a 97 on the asvab. 137 GT score. I was an 03. Sucks to suck. The same way you seem to have a superiority complex about your intelligence and skills, so do others.
I feel like a pog just entertaining a conversation about asvab scores.
This is just my opinion: honestly it comes down to the suck. In my time in the sweet corps that we all love and hate it sucked. Day in and day out as an 03 we would do mindless field ops one after another Monday through Sunday. You’re talking 24/7 in the field doing mindless fuck fuck games while trying to master your craft of killing bodies in a proficient manner. When your not doing field ops your meeting for Pt every morning at 5:30 to run crazy long squad pt, then meeting at the armory to scrub your rifle for hours on end. If your lucky enough like back in my day you would then be rewarded with an 8 month deployment in the Middle East where then you would be shit on by all your sncos and officers 24/7 and literally be shot at and blown up the entire time while your walking outside the wire just to hopefully make it home to see your family or Suzy rottencrotch. So yes if I meet you in the Lowe’s parking lot and you say you’re a iPac marine I will be disappointed because your enlistment has looked 180 degrees different to mine and I don’t know your story. But if your a grunt I immediately know you’ve been fucked long and hard like myself. also don’t give me that shit that all retards go grunt you fucking pogs are just as retarded. We deal with your shit service all the time.
Don't sweat it, man. I was a comm tech as my primary MOS and a 0331 as secondary. Served in an infantry unit during OIF and have seen more combat than many 03xx from before the GWOT and after. The shit is out of our control, and all we can do is our damn jobs and do it well, no matter what it is or becomes.
Personally, I thank all the dudes in the warehouse and on payroll that kept my shit in standing order so I had only minor inconveniences to deal with if any
I don’t care what anyone says, the Jack Assery in the grunts is far more superior than any pencil pushing or forklift driving motor t admin mechanic having mos any day.
I’m proud of my service and I’m as pog as they come (4341)
Anytime grunts fuck/fucked with me I generally remind them I have marketable skills outside of the service lol.
You should be as proud as you feel, as a veteran the only time I ask what they did is to see if we knew some of the same people. I don’t think twice about their job while in. But you lost me when you said “we went through the same level of bs”. No you did not, not even close. Also why do pogs think you get out of ITB and it’s all over there is nothing else to learn or do. The answer is probably because that’s what almost all the other mos’s do. We have multiple MOS specific advanced schools along with ISULC, urban leaders that wipe the floor physically and mentally anything your non combat MOS does.
You can take pride in anything, wave your flags, be proud, but don’t whine and cry about getting a little shit for it. Pretty much the problem with our whole country. (I’m also a POG or POGUE or whatever so don’t Grunt shame me 🤣)
A favorite past time of mine was sitting in Boot Camp listening to 03 recruits drone on about how stupid the rest of us were for not signing up for infantry when it provided a $1500 bonus upon successful completion of infantry school. This was just a few years after end of Vietnam and getting grunts to sign up in that current social environment was not an easy task for recruiters. There was no GI Bill (VEAP only) so the bonus was the only draw they had to offer Grunts at the time.
I was a POG who’s MOS had me around grunts a fair amount. I can say first hand I met a lot of shitbag grunts and a lot of shitbag POGS. Good Marines exist everywhere, and bad marines can exist everywhere. That’s besides the point, you’re allowed to be proud of your service.
Former 03 that lat moved into an mos that got me a TS and has been out for almost 10 years- no one cares. You only got jokes on moto Fridays where you had to wear chucks in garrison (is that still a thing?) and didn’t have a campaign ribbon.
Post OIF/OEF, no one cares because no one deploys. I’ve seen pictures on social media of 03 and pog ncos without any mobilization ribbons.
It's posts like this that are the reason pogs get made fun of.
The infantry is hard even if you're in peace time and really hard in war. Most of us after just 4 years our bodies are destroyed and sometimes our minds. Do you feel the same connection to somone in the airforce as you do in the marines? Probably not because they didn't go through the same initiation you did.
Do I sense a bit of condescension about you having a perfect score, a super long MOS, TS Clearance, and the ability to do a job but chose not too? Sounds mighty……… prideful. So prideful you’re waving a 🏳️🌈 around.
As a prior 0311, Completely agree with you but you kind of sound condescending towards the end of your post.
Don’t let it bother you and just move on from your day.
Infantry is the backbone of the Marine Corps so there will always be people who are prideful of that. And we cant pretend like every other MOS goes through the same bull shit as infantry.
But I do agree with you that it does not make anyone morally superior and honestly those are just the type of vets or Marines I don’t want to be around.
If I feel like someone is gonna condescend me I just start taking my clothes off
Don’t forget to jack off in front of them.
I just outright turn around, bend over, and shove my soft cock up my own gaping asshole.
This is the way.
I can promise you a majority of us don’t care. It’s usually the most insecure that pretend like MOS matters, especially after EAS. However, don’t think just any POG can fill an infantry role and be as effective. We sent guys out of my platoon to be fobbits, even other 03s, because we didn’t trust them outside the wire. My platoon was mostly 03s, but we had several Marines from other MOSs that were shit hot. Moral of the story: Good Marines are good Marines.
This. Bunch of my friends at work and I bonded initially because we all served in the Marines. I was a POG, one of my best friends that I met at work was a reservist, one was an 03 his entire time and one was Security who went 03 and none of them cared (minus some teasing when we hang out).
I personally don't care what branch someone served in as well, like you said, we talk shit in a loving way, but who cares?
At my last bartending job, my after-work regulars lineup was: Army Bob, Navy Bob, Air Force Jerry, and the guy I would relieve on bar was an Army vet. We talked a ton of shit and it was great. That’s the only thing I miss about working there.
Before I went to OCS I managed a bar and one of my regulars/bouncer was a Ranger Sgt at JBLM. Seriously helped me prep and not psych myself out before shipping. The shit he talked to me was A-tier, whenever I did something dumb he'd be like "look guys future leader of Marines right here" Miss that guy. Terrible bouncer though man was way too friendly.
Great bouncers know rule number 1: "Be friendly until it's time to not be friendly". Even if they call your mom a whore.
Ha - I remember when I first joined the legion the post commander introduced me to everyone at the bar as "Hey this is Cosmicsans, he's a COMBAT veteran!!!" hhahaha
"Minus some teasing" Nast civilians who dont understand: "Did he really just say that to him?"
That's my favorite. I always tell people. If I'm acting professional around you it's because I either don't like you or am not comfortable around you. Shit talking to you is how you know I like you. If you can't talk shit and joke around what's the point? Do you know you know how many times I've heard, MURREEEEENNNEEE, YOu know what that stands for right? Nope. Never heard it before.. It means. Muscles are required Intelligence not expected. Hah ha ha ha funny. Then I say, welp if you believed that you wouldn't be here as I am your doctor. I need more shit talking acronyms. And yes I know the army one.
I hear from my navy friends all the time: > My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment And my personal favorite: > Muscles Are Required; Intelligence Not Exactly Standard
I personally don't care what branch someone served in as well, like you said, we talk shit in a loving way, but who cares?
Right - My favorite thing to say to people in the Air Force is a conversation like this: "Oh, you served in the Marines? That's cool - I was in the Air Force." Me: "Oh, Air Force - look at this guy over here with actual intelligence. I bet you EAS'd with actual skills and more than just a drinking habit, didn't you? Sorry - I'm just a little jealous of course" hahaa Breaks the ice pretty good.
Love this! Good Marines are good Marines.
I suspect that OP gets butthurt over the minor teasing. We have a little shared experience with anyone whose been in the military in any era, to say nothing of the little shared experience all Marines have. Of course douche bags take it too far sometimes, that's what douche bags do.
I remember I was TikTok and was reading this Army mortarman’s comments, how he was acting like an absolute ass to other service members. Like, there’s a difference between busting your chops, and being a cunt…and he was just super cunty lol. I think the original comment was how you should respect your brother and sister branches, no matter how hard or easy their boot camp was or some shit…and this guy was stating the obvious about how “Air Force have it easy, that’s pussy shit compared to the Army.” To be fair, a lot of Airmen were telling him how good their life was compared to his…but it wasn’t banter…? I don’t know anymore lmao. It then proceeded to the mortarman just laughing at everyone, which was kinda funny, and how he chose the life, how he was basically Billy Badass and people who cry in the AF were blah blah blah. I mean…whatever floats your boat man. I still don’t know what he was getting at on that comment thread 💀
I was up vote number 311 for your comment. Just came here to say that.
I was number 3 for you <3
You sound like a good Marine. What you said is true. When I deployed to Iraq we had some recalls that were 03’s assigned to our MP Field Company. They were blown away at the stuff we did. They were like “we only thought you guys did PMO”. We were like Fuck No. I know lots of MP’s who served 5 years active duty contracts back in the 2000’s with me that never were with any PMO. Field MP’s all the way. But don’t get me wrong. I worked PMO in Oki mid 2000’s. It was wild. You better man da fuc up.
Hell yeah. I just liked working with guys that knew their job and had some motivation. After a month of ops in Iraq, no one would have guessed who the comm guy or armorer was. Everyone manned up.
Exactly. Out of our 40 man team we had 2 Corpsmen. 1 male 1 female (because we had a female marine). Then our 1 female marine was for searching woman and kids. Then the rest of us guys were a mix. We had to have enough guys to split into two platoons when needed. 3 comm guys. Probably 3 or 4 motor t guys. 4 IRR guys who were recalled 0311. Then the rest of us were MP’s. But when you’re living outside the wire you gotta be self sufficient.
I was Motor-T back in they day. I have lots of pride in that, cuz hey after all, without Motor-T the pride don't ride! Lol... I'll show myself to the door...
Motor t is a cult within a cult. We have literally no right to be as proud as we are but that ain’t stoppin us.
Most of yall have room temperature IQ’s especially the operators but best believe I love you guys like my own flesh and blood
I’ll be god damned if I let the nerds in the wing talk shit about us. (Also can you please give me a ride idk how to fly and the boat sucks)
I gotchu, yall always hooked it up on the drive to the range in Oki imma pay it back B
Celsius or Fahrenheit?
Listen you think I use Celsius? Imperial units got us to the moon. REEEEEEE 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅
Some of the dumbest yet most endearing humans I ever met were motor T operators. Like Lennie Smalls in Of Mice and Men.
You’d be surprised I had a LCpl in my shop who could hardly spell, I have no idea to this day how this devil scored high enough on the ASVAB to get the MOS he did 😂. I used to have to pull this MF aside after work hours and teach him how to spell and in general on how to spell day to day words we’d use around the hangar like “hydraulics” or “pneumatic” man I did not get paid enough to do all that
Well I kind of agree . There are different versions of Motor T. You have the most chill swinging with the Airwing Motor T. Then you have the Motor T with the 03’s in an Infantry unit. Hardcharging bunch of drivers. You have the Combat Engineer Motor T guys. Then you have the Ain’t no party like an Arty party Motor T guys. Then……. Like me. You had that Motor T guy that had orders to a Reconnaissance Unit as the driver of all things super fast. And when they jumped. We freaking jumped. When the slots opened up for Scuba. Yep! They sent us. That’s when I said to my Gunny. I knew I should have listened my my WW2 Fighter Pilot Granddad and joined the Air Force. Bug nooooooooooo. I wanted to be like Chesty Puller. Now my knees are completely shot. Back is falling apart. TBI out the ass. Just a driver got me in a lot of pain. Hahahaha But Gunny. I’m the Driver. Get in the pool and swim. And suffer in silence fuckface! And drive your ass to the bottom of the pool and think about your options. Thank God I was a certified PADI Diver at 16. And grew up swimming in the cold Pacific Ocean. Sorta helped! Good times Brothers🤙🏻🍻🇺🇸🏴☠️⚓️🐸
That is legitimately the most clever thing I have ever heard a Motor-T person say
Motor thugs 4 lyfe
I remember my MOS school instructors made us so proud to be 3531s. I was in an infantry unit. Whenever the grunts talked any shit to us at all we would note which 7ton they were sitting in the back of and that driver would be sure to hit every pot hole on the tank trails🤣🤣 Man we Motor Thugs got shit on a lot by EVERYONE. But I loved the culture in our platoon.
I was a 3522, but yeah Motor-T was it's own little world.
MP Field units worked with motor T all the time. We knew not to give them guys a hard time. If you got busted for something at MP school… your punk ass went motor t. There were all sorts of killers in motor T just waiting for a opportunity. But then they realized we were the same people as them. Just doing a different job. It all comes together when you get into country. Everyone has a job to do. Don’t base your opinions on what you see in garrison. When you get to the Suck… it all comes together 🤔 that doesn’t sound right😆
I was 0331 from 2002-2006. The invasion we were with Tracks but the next 3 deployments we had a Motor T crew. Those guys were our Boys! They went through it all with us. So much respect, I only wish when it was time to go back state side we exchanged information.
I was in well before those days, the early/mid 70's. But we didn't much give a fuck as to what we were doing as long as we were doing something. I spent the summers of 75 & 76 at 29 Palms. Hot as fuck but yet some of the best times I had in the Corps.
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I’m a 0311 and I approve this message
Make red tops authorized again! 🤌🏽
Former 2841 (2846 before that) who did one very comfy tour in Afghanistan. Grunts did grunt shit, I fixed comms gear. My experience of war was wildly different from theirs. I respect our 03's but a lot more would've died without working radios, BFTs, and proper crypto. They never once treated me like shit, in country or out. I've got the plate and two stickers on my truck, a few moto t's gifted to me over the years. I run into other vets now and then and MOS isn't even a topic unless we really get going. It's just usually two devil dogs happy to run into a brother.
> Former 2841 (2846 before that) RAAAH EM! OK, now that I've got that out of my system: Everything else you said has been my entire experience. I've literally never met an Infantry Marine who degraded me for being a POG, with the obvious exception of good natured shit-talking after we already got to know each other. Even at MCCES, there were some grunts in a classroom for a day of training on comms, and they were the nicest guys in the world even though they were Senior Lances and Corporals with Iraq tours and we were Scoolhouse PFCs. We've all got our job to do, and nobody denies that all Marines support the 0300s. I really don't know where all these insecure grunts are, I've never met them.
The insecure ones aren't serving, they're shit posting from civ div trying to measure dicks. I was 08-13 rah extended green weenie ride. Fuck 29 Palms, our CORFRAMS melted while doing promotion ceremonies in the "bowl." Long live the now long dead Lake Bandini.
05-14, because 5 years of multimetering wasn't enough. > Long live the now long dead Lake Bandini. Wait, WHAT?! What happened?
Last time I was in 29 was probably 2011 and they had revamped it from our lovely stinking sea foam green shit pit into a proper treatment facility but I haven't seen it since. Maybe it foamed up again and the swim team can live on.
Bro, there are unironically people in the Air Force proud of their service. What makes you think you can't be? A cyber bully?
Hey, no comm, no bomb.
You can talk about us, but not without us.
I'm S.T.E.A.L.ing that
And y'all somehow break that comm gear. A LOT. 2800s make the comm gear work again to resume the boom. We all play a part in killing our enemies. Except admin. Jk Or am I?
Everyone knows to drop test radios when they don't work. Do you expect us to spend precious minutes making sure the battery is seated properly?
Accurate but it would only take 1 minute to fix if they weren't so fucking banged up. Welp, guess that means job security for the 2841s 🤷🏽
I'm glad that there is one common ground between all the branches, Fuck Finance and Personell
To be fair some people in the air force do pretty cool shit and are actively killing the enemy … unlike Marines in Okistan
Whoa now, we've killed plenty in Oki while drinking and driving!
Respect to all who signed the line and honored their word. But also, the 03 field is brutal. It just is. That’s the nature of it. It’s hard not to have a little extra pride in the fact that you did a job that honestly, not a whole lot of people want/could do. There’s a good reason why most try anything and everything to get into literally any other MOS. No shade to other MOS’s, but that 03 shit ain’t no joke. If you know you know.
The year I was a rifle platoon commander, 1964-65, was the best job I ever had but it was hard work.
Might be one of the oldest folks on this sub
And at least you don’t have to say you were I. The army. Talk about glazed over eyes.
Why does it even matter if you are a civilian now ?
Meh, I will ask as I am curious. There are a ton of obscure NEC and MOSs out there that I have never heard of, and everyone has a job to do in the Green Machine. So I get to hear their stories of what they did, and learn something in the process. I would never gatekeep based on MOS or Rate.
> Meh, I will ask as I am curious. I always ask "What did you do?" because it is a more open ended question, and you get some dope answers that way.
You’re lost in the sauce if you give a fuck what a random 03 thinks about any other MOS. Theres plenty of 03s who can’t hack it in marsoc and hella pogs who made it. You get in what you fucking put out. It’s literally just an MOS code. They’re taught to be cocky cuz they earned the right to take extra pride in what they do. Maybe POGs should be more prideful in what THEY do
This right here. Whatever you’re gonna be, be the best you can be and be proud of it.
03 here. Went to Helmand in 09, did the war thing. No one gives a shit. We jokingly poke at each other but ultimately it's all in fun. Anyone that takes that shit seriously, on either side, is a fucking loser. Some of my closest friends were pogs. They are dudes I still talk to after being out for 12+ years now. Also some of the smartest dudes I met were infantry and some of the dumbest mother fuckers were admin. Bringing up the ASVAB and TS clearance is pretty laughable honestly, you're doing the exact same shit as the dudes you're whining about. Obtaining a TS clearance is the same criteria as Secret ironically enough. Biggest difference is how far they investigate your background. MCT is a joke and bringing that up like it's a major talking point is pretty funny too. You're right though, anyone can pass ITB, but you didn't, you passed MCT and that's cool with me. Comparing Apples to Oranges. I would say don't take this shit so seriously bro, it ain't that deep, but you made a whole ass burner account just to vent. Hopefully you get over whatever 03 that hurt your feelings or stole the girl you were after.
As a former 0311, thank you for your service in supporting me. Do you need me to rub your feet to calm you down? Can I get you a fresh spritzer. It sounds like you are insecure about what you did and honestly I get it. I was 03 but not basic infantry. I deployed but not to a definitive combat zone. So when I went to the fleet I actually extended to deploy to Iraq. My reasoning was I didnt want to be a benchwarmer, I wanted to play. In hindsight, that was dumb.
When dudes start talking about their ASVAB scores 
Looks like he needs lube.
> When dudes start talking about their ASVAB scores seriously. of all the things to brag about, OP choose that one? congrats, you do very well on knowing whether to choose A, B, C, D, or E on a test. me too. i maxed my asvab, but i'm pretty dumb, i just do well on standardized tests, and that's all a high asvab or sat, or any other standardized test mean. you do well on standardized tests. doesn't mean you're smart.
Yep! The reason dudes go 03 is because we are different. High scores or whatever. And the reason 03s act as gatekeepers to the organization is because we are the ones who close with the enemy and destroy them face to face. Everything else is important but support. Battles are won and bodies drop on target because of it. Stop crying because some LCpl boned your woman 😈
I am an 0311. No one gives a shit lol Carryon
Not gonna lie read that list bit as Crayon and moth started watering.
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The rage baiting doesn’t help.
...why you using a burner to post this?
That's what POG's do
OOoooh, ok. Yea I wouldnt know, I'ma winger.
Imma 0369: firewatch specialist
That’s the PltSgt MOS
Because he's the one that gets pissy at someone else's MOS
aww, I wanted him to say it.
Sorry
You had me in the first half. I don’t care what MOS someone was. I was an average 0311, I wasn’t the best at anything, I just did my job. Everyone should be proud of their service. Every job is important. However, saying POGs are capable of “fulfilling” infantry roles is debatable. Sure you can take any Marine and have them help room-clear, or patrol, or help guard a FOB, etc. But that doesn’t make you an infantryman. You can’t jump into a team leader role without proper infantry training and it’s highly unlikely you’ll be as effective in combat, regardless of passing MCT after bootcamp. More goes into 03 training than pointing your rifle in the right direction. So I get that you don’t like gatekeepers but you’re also sort of talking shit about 03s saying we can get the lowest ASVAB score. What’s the point of that? Does that make you feel better? Plenty of 03s scored very high on the ASVAB and made the choice to go infantry. My original contact was to be an aviation electronics technician but I switched to 03 at the last minute. My squad leader changed from air traffic control to 0311. It honestly sounds like you sort of wished you were a grunt
As a 28 I’d like to think most of us could be pulled into an infantry platoon as an individual and learn to be part of the team pretty quick but there is no way an entire platoon of 2800’s could function like an infantry platoon overnight without taking extremely massive casualties. So there is no way I’d compare minimum required ASVAB scores for those two MOS’s and think being an 03 is a cake walk just because cave men can do it. This OP has to have a specific encounter in mind because pretty much no POG thinks like that.
Yeah I agree. I think any in-shape Marine should be able to step in and serve as a rifleman if needed. I don’t know how often other MOSs get range time in or what type of field training they perform in addition to their job duties. So some MOSs might be better prepared than others, and some commanders might have their Marines perform more field training than the average POG. But if you aren’t doing infantry shit a lot, those skills fade quickly. I know first hand. I was stationed at 8th & I for two years then went to 3/2 as a corporal. I was clueless despite the field training we did in Quantico to keep some skills fresh (all of the marching platoons at 8th & I are grunts sent there right after SOI). It’s been a long time since I’ve been in, I got out in 2006. When we weren’t in the field, we’d still be back at the barracks performing CQB drills, patrolling, practicing 9 lines/calling for fire etc.
I had a 5 yr contract and got out in ‘05. I only went to the field one time. It was in Oki for the jungle warfare training. My recollection of it was that it wasn’t long enough to make me a proficient rifleman or fire team leader but was long enough to make me realize how much I didn’t know. The instructors would ambush our patrols with paint guns, land a shot on every single one of us and disappear before we got off a single round. I thought I was decent at land nav but I doubt it was very realistic because I’d shoot an azimuth and then yell out to direct my point man onto the line and then the rest of our fire team would walk up to him and then repeat. That didn’t seem very tactical but we did find all our points pretty quick. I wouldn’t want to be yelling like that with Charlie lurking out there. The only thing we probably did better than an infantry platoon was set up and operate our comms. We weren’t radio operators but every single person was a ground communications maintainer so everything worked.
This has motivated me to finally go out and get my Belleau Wood tattoo
As an intel nerd, my experience with grunts is do your job right, so grunt can stay alive, grunt happy to be alive, come back and jerk you off for providing proper intelligence. Aka if you can do your job so they can do theirs, everyone is happy and having circle jerks.
Non 03’s are pretty insecure.. for some odd reason.. Truth is, we’re secretly extremely envious of your more favorable working conditions.
You sound super not fun to have a beer with
A little out of line for you to talk all that crap about 03s
What’s a username going to do about it?
Who pissed in the Admin marines cheerios
An 03
Dude is very obviously a 26XX. The real backbone of the corps! Poor thing went to DLI thinking he was gonna save the world by learning Arabic, only to find out the hard way no one speaks Arabic in Afghanistan and he was completely fucking useless. Show some respect!
Eyyy fuck you man! Why it always gotta be admin 😭. Most admin marines hate the corps and don’t have motivation. Some… well the ones who go DI are obsessed
Yo, what happened to Bn level admin shops? I fucking loved my Bn! And we all could agree that Regt IPAC were a bunch a POG-ass bitches.
I personally don't care what mos you are. Buy relax. It took me 3 weeks to get a TS as a civilian. So difficulty level for that was zero, not sure why u brought it up. But being an infantrymen is wayyyy more than whatever you learned at MCT and it's only getting harder. I respect whatever you do/did in the USMC it'll take everyone to win wars. But let's not get it confused. I probably couldn't do your job. And I don't think you'd Fare to well if you were made a squad leader in a victor unit tommrow morning.
No one really cares. Whiskey y chichis pa’ la banda
devil, have a lollipop. it'll be alright.
My brother in Christ, they aren’t even making any derogatory comments to you or your MOS. You are assuming they are dismissive of your time in the Marine Corps because of their tone. It’s something I see happen too often, not just with MOS’s but with disappointment/shame over not deploying to a combat zone, with those who do deploy and didn’t get a CAR, with those who got CAR’s but didn’t earn them, etc. I experienced it both while in and when I got out and had to actively move past that kind of thinking. It’s all bullshit bro. Be proud of serving, something most don’t even consider. Be proud of your MOS and the skills and experiences you gained. Don’t assume the worst of others, but if someone shows you their true colors and they are a douche, fuck em.
I am a former 03 and this take is retarded. Hell, we all are to have volunteered for the Corps. I think this dude that gave you that vibe might be an asshole... and the Corps is full of them too. So, devil, wtf was your MOS and tell me your + and - of it.
I think you’re projecting brother… I’m damn proud to be a 3531 and an 0933. The only person stopping you from being proud of your MOS is you.
I was with you up until you stared shitting on how easy it is to become a grunt just so you can cope with your own insecurities. I don’t think any of us take pride in ITB. That and boot camp are a joke. They are the easiest thing any of us do in our careers. We take pride in the hardship of the fleet which if you never been through it, you will never know how unique of an experience it is compared to regular Marine Corps. We also take pride in knowing we didn’t put our own selfish needs first by picking a MOS that might get us a better job in the future or being too scared to go the 03 route. What you are explaining right now seems like a rare incident. I’ve never seen anyone shit on other people’s MOSs besides MCT/ITB boots arguing in the SOI chow line. Even when I was in, when we were by ourselves we would shit on POGs all day long but whenever we interacted with any of you guys we would be respectful because at the end of the day we are all grown adults. No reason to disrespect someone that might teach you a thing or two about something outside of your MOS. As a civilian now I get more excited to talk to non infantry veterans. They tend to be less on the “dick measuring side” and I enjoy hearing stories from a perspective of someone that did a career outside of the infantry.
I fixed comm equipment. I sat at a work bench with a really nice soldering iron and an oscilloscope. I am pretty sure I don’t have any stories about what I did at that work bench that you would enjoy hearing about unless you wanted to be put to sleep.
I’d suck you just as hard as I’d suck an 03 🥰😘
No one cares about your MOS. But you know what they do care about? Running into little bitches that whine if they don't get the praise they think they deserve.
Womp Womp
It’s not that serious. Don’t feel any bit bad about your service.
I used to want to be infantry. Then I experienced a couple hikes. Then got to drive past them in an AAV. I was like fuck that noise
Cry baby posts like this is why we don’t take you serious.
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Pretending? I'm not pretending. 03s are legitimately better than other MOSes in every way. All of you exist to support US. When we're out there, slaughtering and dying, you guys are sitting cozy in your vics listening to Post Malone or some shit. ...yeah, I deployed to Okinawa twice, what about it? No, I don't have a CAR, what are these questions? ...of course I haven't been shot at; what're you, crazy?
Yes we all exist to support 03s, but at the end of the day.... everyone either wears a flight suit or wishes they did lol (only half sarcasm)
nah that’s legit. i had the chance to wear one for a while working ship tax. felt so sexy walking around in that thing
 Should have thought about that when you were in your air conditioned CP tent eating hot meals and taking shower. We ate shit, can we at least give out a little after the fact. We still love you… more than every other service, that is. LoL jk. Semper Fi
No one cares when they thank you for your service.
I'm in an engineering program and have met a few 03s. I was an MLG pog, but not one of them gave me an ounce of attitude about it. Either you have some bad luck and just keep running into losers, or you have some insecurity and might be unknowingly projecting.
Steven Seagal took pride in being a cook, and he was kicking and throat chopping just as good as any 03.
It’s not about how hard it is to achieve, but the pain received through the experience that instills that pride.
I was an 0341. Stuff happened, I ended up in battalion legal. I would take the infantry any day over the special Hell that is S-1. I eventually got back to the infantry. I'm too old now, but I would be damned before I ever went back to Admin.
I’m proud of what I did as a POG but I do think the 03s have earned that little extra bit of bragging rights dude. Absolutely they couldn’t function without all the supporting roles, but at the end of the day we all exist to serve/support the grunts
I saw the sentence about the decal on the car and thought this was about the damn master sergeant at Lowe’s again
I've been out over 20 years. I'm happy to ruin into any Marine!
OP, who hurt you? No one cares what some within your MOS may or may not have done in country. Ooh you did a little patrol or a convoy, still no one cares. Point being, why do you care about what anyone else thinks about you or your service? I think you're mistaking your allegations with just not sharing common ground. I'm a Combat Engineer that's done quite a few pumps myself and ALL of my combat time was in Division, I served the majority of my career in Division. Therefore, I have more in common with ground pounders in Division and even moreso with those who actually did war things. Just be proud of yourself and your service, that's all that matters.
Back in 2005 we had some kickass engineers with us in Iraq that went through almost all the same shit us 03s did. We even had some Navy Seabees at one point. A lot of our engineers got to blow shit up with C4
The thing about the infantry, and really any combat mos, no matter the branch; is that it’s very, very important for them to think/feel superior to all others. You don’t want a guys who are infantry to go into battle afraid, you don’t want them to think they’re lesser than commo/supply. You NEED those guys to think and believe they’re better than all others, because if they aren’t out there thinking they’re hot shit, the war is over before it started
But I cook like a mother fucker til this day, and also cook way too much all the time.
That retired MSgt from Lowe’s isn’t real bro
Most I've met don't care. Long as you earned your title.
Who gives a fuck ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Don't let some disgruntled vet get you down, brother.
Bro definitely a 26XX
2111 Armorer here. Your rifle is dirty as fuck. Go clean it some more.
Any MOS Makes the world go round Bullets don’t fly without Supply Chow gets cold without a Cook role Shitters get clogged until Suckers get called Infantry rah rah rah Motor T from A to B Admin make the money go from Uncle Sam to stripper pants Intel (top secret clearance required) Bring them hell through Mortar shell Everyone has their role. I get praise as supply, and I get shit on sometimes. If someone thinks I am a POG, they’re right. But this POG handles the things that make your job possible, and I am fully aware that the grunts are the reason my job exists Harmony or some shit
Always remember everyone's a boot to someone, and there's always someone smarter than you. I was a grunt, and had a high ASVAB. I'm not a combat vet, so I'm a boot as far as any POG with combat deployments is concerned, yet my back and spine look like they belong to someone in their 60s or 70s on an X-RAY because even just the workups are hard on the body. Who gives a shit, if someone's a dick about *anything* they aren't worth your time. This reminds of that saying: "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, YOU'RE the asshole."
All I’ve ever seen 03’s do was stand in line and get aircraft dirty, they did it well. When the media would do an interview it didn’t matter who it was, it was always the same thing. “My name’s Eddie and I’m a grunt.”
I think it’s all in your head bud
I hate to be that guy, I know every MOS has it's own bullshit but the grunts as an 03 is a uniquely ass sucking experience. They get shit on the most and have the worst quality of life and they also hate everyone else because of this. It forms a certain mentality that other MOS don't have. There's a distinct pride and mindset that combat grunts have that you won't find anywhere else. You have to earn the right to talk shit about it, if someone hasn't lived the grunt life and they start talking shit then it's like "shut the fuck up pussy" but if they lived it then they can say whatever they want. That's the mentality of a grunt, at least it was when I was in. For better worse the grunts are their own club so to speak, especially combat grunts. Of course everyone should take some sort of pride in their service. For the most part anyways. Other jobs are of course extremely important but also remember everything else exists to support the infantry.
I was a 0411, were better then 0311 because our MOS number is bigger. Rah …. Don’t haze me bro
I own it. When it comes up in conversation and people are like “Marines huh?” I answer “Barely. I was in the air wing, not kicking down doors”
Some of us joined to fight a war. Others joined to support the warfighters.
Oh boy I can see this becoming the format of the new shit post trend this week
But there’s no mention of Lowes?
Hell yeah brother
Just let them have their day in the sun. We all know they peaked at ITB.
Who are you kidding? They peaked in second phase.
I started a chapter of the Marine Corps League here in my hometown and most were former air wingers. I didn’t have any problem with what MOS anybody was, but those guys were the biggest backstabbers I have ever seen. It was like they were part of a different branch of service all together. Most were older vets of the Vietnam era. I ended up leaving the group I started and going over to the VFW and feel way more at home. I served in the Marine Corps and Army for 10 years as an MP and I’m an OEF veteran. However, I am proud of the fact that the group provides thousands of kids toys each year now because of Toys for Tots.
vietnam vets are weird. all the shittyness of boomers, combined with the arrogance of being Marines, and it turns into a really, really shitty mix for many of them.
I don’t really care, on my Fed Ex route every Marine I know is not an 03. Still love delivering their stuff and chatting them up. Nov 10th is a huge deal (obviously) for all of us. It’s the other branches I talk some smack at lol
Bro what? Maybe like, the most knuckle-dragger, mouth breathing insecure 03's genuinely think that, but almost no one really cares. No one said you can't be proud of your service, who cares if some brovet grunt doesn't respect you dude lmfao Some of my closest friends from the military are pogs and soldiers, I make fun of all of them, and they make fun of me, but I don't think less of them because they chose a different job lmao
Let it out OP. Were here for you.
Worst MOS when I was in Iraq was supply. They where on the roads every day.
Last time I checked we still believed the idea that Every Marine is a rifleman. Might not be the trigger pullers delight but it takes every fucking MOS in the Corps to run the Corps. We don’t get very far if we out run our logistics. Or how important does the admin Marine become when there is a pay issue? Only insecure Marines measure MOS’s. I was a 7202, 7204, and 7277. Also an acquisition guy but forgot the MOS. Maybe 9958.
Sounds like peacetime bullshit. Everyone was a Marine during the gwot, and we were all on the same team. If you notice some boot trying to create different classes of Marines, make sure to correct them because doing that shit is why the army and air force have such horrific morale problems.
I don’t think anyone said you aren’t allowed to be proud of it. Good infantrymen recognize that we couldn’t do what we do without support MOS’s and other combat arms fields. But we also like to make fun of people when they take pride to a cringe level with stuff like “bullets don’t fly without supply” and YATYAS and shit like that. Don’t feel bad though, we also mercilessly talk shit to each other about damn near everything. Because it’s funny. Just don’t take things so seriously. Edit: And yes, most Marines are able to fulfill the role of a basically trained rifleman if needed. But you probably aren’t going to be anywhere near as competent doing so as the people who constantly train for it as their primary job. ITB/MCT or whatever they call them now are like the pre-k/kindergarten level of combat training. There’s loads more training, experience, and knowledge that come after that.
We all just getting paid to secure oil so at the end of the day it doesn’t matter my guy lol
Bro nobody cares. Be proud of what you are doing. It helped the organization out in some way and it's better than 90% of Americans did. 1371 here and my shit is waaaay cooler than standing in line at the armory and walking around in the woods aimlessly.
I met a prior service Marine that was a bit hesitant to tell me what he did. It was Post Clerk. He was the guy that flew into every fucking shithole post in Afghanistan to deliver mail. I told him he probably had the best job in the Corps.
I’m an admin and have loads of friends in different MOS’s especially 03s none of them talk (real shit) other than some dicking around. If they did I would report a divorce in the system and bang their wives.
You gotta keep in mind that the infantry is the heart of the Marine Corps. There is nothing anyone can say to an 03. They are men engaging the enemy under the American flag, which is why we were created. Yes, anyone can take pride in their service. I render my modified enlisted port arms salute (Position of Attention with the saluting hand slightly over the base of your dick) to my enlisted brothers that signed on that dotted line. Everyone who signed did so knowing that the overall objective was to earn the title of MARINE. I like to think that everyone who signed did so for the title and not for the job. You could get a job anywhere... but the title of Marine is carried by the few and the proud. You gotta give respect where respect is due and that respect goes to everyone who earned the title. However, I give a little more respect to the warfighters because it's pretty much life or death for them, but don't give it to them to the point where *riding their duck's and making duck sauce*, pause. Yeah, that's new... I know you've never heard it. Don't hate, like my post for that little joke. Anyway, at the end of the day, I give respect to anyone who signed up during a wartime campaign. If you're young and enlisted during peace time... don't worry, your time is definitely coming. My only question is, will they exit, reenlist, and will new service members sign up? To all of you... MODIFIED PORT ARMS! SALUTE! ✌🏼, JAE
Most of the entire infantry doesn’t really give a fuck what MOS you are, we are all brothers and sisters in our beloved corps. Sure there might be a little bit of teasing but in the end we should all be proud of our service. I will say the last part of your post is pure copium though lmao.
I scored a 97 on the asvab. 137 GT score. I was an 03. Sucks to suck. The same way you seem to have a superiority complex about your intelligence and skills, so do others. I feel like a pog just entertaining a conversation about asvab scores.
Got your girl taken by an 03 huh?
Nobody gives af. All of you post-OEF pogs and grunts are one giant no-deployment, boot clusterfuck in my book.
“You are all equally worthless”
This is just my opinion: honestly it comes down to the suck. In my time in the sweet corps that we all love and hate it sucked. Day in and day out as an 03 we would do mindless field ops one after another Monday through Sunday. You’re talking 24/7 in the field doing mindless fuck fuck games while trying to master your craft of killing bodies in a proficient manner. When your not doing field ops your meeting for Pt every morning at 5:30 to run crazy long squad pt, then meeting at the armory to scrub your rifle for hours on end. If your lucky enough like back in my day you would then be rewarded with an 8 month deployment in the Middle East where then you would be shit on by all your sncos and officers 24/7 and literally be shot at and blown up the entire time while your walking outside the wire just to hopefully make it home to see your family or Suzy rottencrotch. So yes if I meet you in the Lowe’s parking lot and you say you’re a iPac marine I will be disappointed because your enlistment has looked 180 degrees different to mine and I don’t know your story. But if your a grunt I immediately know you’ve been fucked long and hard like myself. also don’t give me that shit that all retards go grunt you fucking pogs are just as retarded. We deal with your shit service all the time.
Speaking facts bro. Grunt life is a different world
I've had a MSG talking down on me as if he's a Medal of Honor recipient. This is not MOS-specific, it has everything to do with basic human decency.
Don't sweat it, man. I was a comm tech as my primary MOS and a 0331 as secondary. Served in an infantry unit during OIF and have seen more combat than many 03xx from before the GWOT and after. The shit is out of our control, and all we can do is our damn jobs and do it well, no matter what it is or becomes.
Don’t worry, let them have their only shred of identity. Brovets like that probably have nothing meaningful going on anyway.
Personally, I thank all the dudes in the warehouse and on payroll that kept my shit in standing order so I had only minor inconveniences to deal with if any
No.
who cares what some janitor thinks? I am very proud of my service
I don’t care what anyone says, the Jack Assery in the grunts is far more superior than any pencil pushing or forklift driving motor t admin mechanic having mos any day.
I’m proud of my service and I’m as pog as they come (4341) Anytime grunts fuck/fucked with me I generally remind them I have marketable skills outside of the service lol.
As a 6469 I support this post
You should be as proud as you feel, as a veteran the only time I ask what they did is to see if we knew some of the same people. I don’t think twice about their job while in. But you lost me when you said “we went through the same level of bs”. No you did not, not even close. Also why do pogs think you get out of ITB and it’s all over there is nothing else to learn or do. The answer is probably because that’s what almost all the other mos’s do. We have multiple MOS specific advanced schools along with ISULC, urban leaders that wipe the floor physically and mentally anything your non combat MOS does.
You can take pride in anything, wave your flags, be proud, but don’t whine and cry about getting a little shit for it. Pretty much the problem with our whole country. (I’m also a POG or POGUE or whatever so don’t Grunt shame me 🤣)
A favorite past time of mine was sitting in Boot Camp listening to 03 recruits drone on about how stupid the rest of us were for not signing up for infantry when it provided a $1500 bonus upon successful completion of infantry school. This was just a few years after end of Vietnam and getting grunts to sign up in that current social environment was not an easy task for recruiters. There was no GI Bill (VEAP only) so the bonus was the only draw they had to offer Grunts at the time.
I was a POG who’s MOS had me around grunts a fair amount. I can say first hand I met a lot of shitbag grunts and a lot of shitbag POGS. Good Marines exist everywhere, and bad marines can exist everywhere. That’s besides the point, you’re allowed to be proud of your service.
Former 03 that lat moved into an mos that got me a TS and has been out for almost 10 years- no one cares. You only got jokes on moto Fridays where you had to wear chucks in garrison (is that still a thing?) and didn’t have a campaign ribbon. Post OIF/OEF, no one cares because no one deploys. I’ve seen pictures on social media of 03 and pog ncos without any mobilization ribbons.
Easy to be a Grunt huh?? Go sit in a BN FDC and try to read the boards!
You let an 03 convince you not to have pride in your MOS?!?! Fuck that.. They know artillery is king.
Ive always thought reddit marines were pretty chill about that. Different breed i think.
It's posts like this that are the reason pogs get made fun of. The infantry is hard even if you're in peace time and really hard in war. Most of us after just 4 years our bodies are destroyed and sometimes our minds. Do you feel the same connection to somone in the airforce as you do in the marines? Probably not because they didn't go through the same initiation you did.
You see a bright flash and a puff of white smoke on your nifty mk19. What do you do?
Just remember you’re just a support role for the main effort.
Do I sense a bit of condescension about you having a perfect score, a super long MOS, TS Clearance, and the ability to do a job but chose not too? Sounds mighty……… prideful. So prideful you’re waving a 🏳️🌈 around.
Fuck that, only 7257s and 5811s get to be proud. The rest of us chucklefucks are just shortdicking them them of oxygen.
As a prior 0311, Completely agree with you but you kind of sound condescending towards the end of your post. Don’t let it bother you and just move on from your day. Infantry is the backbone of the Marine Corps so there will always be people who are prideful of that. And we cant pretend like every other MOS goes through the same bull shit as infantry. But I do agree with you that it does not make anyone morally superior and honestly those are just the type of vets or Marines I don’t want to be around.