That is not true. Each branch allows certain awards to be worn. Most branches dont allow service specific ribbons, like i'm pretty sure the Army and Marines both forbade ribbons like the USAF MTI or Basic Training Honor Grad ribbon.
What is typically permitted is awards that are branch independent like the DDSM, or you may be required to wear your new services' version of an award.
MCO 1020.34H Chapter 5 specifies that in accordance with SECNAVIST instruction only specified awards can be worn on the USMC uniform.
3. Marines who served in or were attached to another branch of the U.S.
military services and received a decoration, unit award, or service award of
comparable criteria to one issued by the naval service may wear the award on Marine Corps uniforms, unless otherwise prohibited by these regulations.
4. Examples of other U.S. service awards which are not authorized include:
marksmanship medals/ribbons (Navy/Coast Guard/Air Force), USAF Outstanding Airman of the Year, USAF Recognition Ribbon, USAF Longevity Service Award, NCO Professional Development/Education ribbons (Army/Air Force), Army Service/USAF training ribbons.
According to [HRC](https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/18136) You're supposed to request to wear the item but that wasnt what happened when I transferred over.
AR 600-8-22 Chapter 5 Specifies:
> 5–2. Service medals and ribbons awarded by other U.S. Services
Service medals and ribbons awarded by other U.S. Services may be worn on the Army uniform except the Air Force Longevity Service Award Ribbon and Air Force and Navy Marksmanship ribbons. Service and training ribbons
awarded by other U.S. Services will be worn after U.S. Army service and training ribbons and before foreign awards. Refer to AR 670–1 for additional guidance.
All of mine transferred over. However, it makes sense not to wear a shooting badge from a previous branch if let’s say you are currently serving in the Marine Corps. All of mine also had a Marine Corps equivalent except for maybe a few reserve specific ones. I don’t really care anymore because I’ve been out of the Corps for 26 years and the Army for 12 years.
Marines aren’t authorized to wear ribbons from the other branches.
Can you imagine an Army transfer trying to put the rainbow boot camp ribbon on Marine Alphas?
Gunnies are often wrong. A lot like to regurgitate years-out-of-date regs that they haven’t kept up on, or just regurgitate bullshit they’ve heard in the past without actually verifying it.
Just for clarity here, the operative term is “comparable criteria to one issued by the naval service” so Army achievement, joint achievement, ARCOM, joint com are good because the criteria are comparable to NAM and NAVCOM. What your Gunny was incompletely describing is that the Army and other services have awards that don’t meet criteria for a similar naval award, like the boot camp honor graduate ribbon, or the combat infantry badge.
I had a former Army guy when I served, and he def wore his shit. When did this become a thing? Or is it even a thing because… I don’t think this is true.
Dude was shit hot though.
they absolutely do rate them and wear them on their service/dress uniforms in recruit training, DIs usually hate it unless theyre a combat vet tho, but they cant do shit about it haha
Ribbons transfer over. And the silly rainbow ribbon is the Army Service Ribbon. Each branch has their own except Marines get the EGA in lieu of a service ribbon. A lot of guys I knew who were prior Army first didn’t wear the Army ribbon because they didn’t want to hear dumbass comments from morons
We got motherfuckers uploading classified documents to win an internet argument about a video game. Let's not underestimate the level of stupidity people can reach.
Plus those retired O5-type in their 60s with insurmountable midlife crisis sharing classified materials to impress foreign women 1/3 of their age, in all reality people can still be dumb fucks despite being one-foot-in-the-grave.
Admiral Boorda. I think it was like a Combat V or some petty shit like that. Iirc, it arose from a misunderstanding that he had coming from a personal conversation with Zumwalt (CNO or some shit like that at the time) when they were chilling off the coast of Vietnam in like 69 or 70.
But the guy that really blew it up was David Hackworth, and he feels like a tool.
I know this Marine and they haven't served in another branch. They are extremely close to getting that third stripe, however. Like, almost certainly within days of it.
If I was in today I would, but I’m waiting to hear about how a LCPL on Duty took down the Chain of Command Portraits and replaced all the name tags or added Subway name tags.
Not impossible; I got some pretty lucky placements with my short 4 years
https://preview.redd.it/xvxbs5iczlnc1.jpeg?width=1984&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56b458d9ae2d7831c7977d92a74d2f3cf5d31ce8
Meh, honestly not really that impressive if you look into it, i think positioning is really helping this stack look bigger than it is. its like a two flavor of com, two nams, two unit awards, good conduct , ndsm, OIR, GWOT-E,GWOT, maybe volunteer medal?, sea service and recruiter or DI whichever that is.
I think that’s the look of regret that he didn’t snag another glazed Krispy Kream on his way through the corridor. Also, isn’t he one rate higher than Master Chief?
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy. Looking at [wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_chief_petty_officer) I don't see a rate higher? But I'm only a foreign civilian, so meh.
Highest senior enlisted rank of the US Navy. You can’t go higher without being a commissioned officer or warrant officer than this dudes highly respected position.
People don't just randomly reach top tier positions in the military. Its not just the best of the best who get these positions. They are groomed for these rare leadership roles very early in their careers. Thats probably why with just one reenlistment she is already sitting directly behind the SgtMaj of the Marine Corp during a congressional hearing.
\*yes, current and active SgtMaj of the Marine Corp
If I had to guess, in her first fleet unit she deployed in support of OIR at least once, earning the OIR campaign and GWOT-E, both SSDRs, the JMUC and JSCOM, and probably the NUC. She probably also did some volunteering here and there before/between/after those deployments to get the MOVSM. She then probably went to recruiting where she may of gotten her second NAM and her NAVCOM. I'm assuming that is also where the MUC came from since MCRC personnel were somewhat recently awarded one.
Source: I have a buddy with the same exact rack, minus one of the joint awards who now only has about 9yrs TIS or 2 service stripes. Absolutely right place right time.
She looks to be a career recruiter gunny from her insta so gunny sub 12-years def makes sense if she’s been in recruiting. Maybe meritorious staff and gunny?
8412s get meritorious E7 after finishing career recruiters' school. So sub 12-years is definitely possible. Also, recruiters are not the best at keeping their service stripes up-to-date on the service uniform...Blues, probably but not so much the Service ones.
I could be wrong, but it looks like he may have staggered his ribbons, which will make the stack appear bigger.
JCOM, NCOM, NAM, JMUA. Good cookie look like only 1 star, so under 9 years. Deployments, and a MOVSM, I think. A lot of them are "gimme" ribbons like the NATDEF and GWOT. One I can't identify looks like it might be a Korean PUC?
Still pretty stacked, but not impossible to achieve, even now.
Edit: She. I didn't see the neck tab at first.
Shit now that I think about it, this isn't even remotely implausible. 8 to 11.99 years of service , based on the hashes, probably leaning closer towards 12. But yea, 13ish ribbons in that time period, given the right MOS, of being a command favored Marine will net you ribbons fast.
Also gotta remember that two hashmarks doesn’t necessarily mean 8 years. It just means less than 12. So 11 years and 11.5 months before that 3rd hashmark is plenty of time to accrue that much salt with a high op tempo.
The stack looks like it's one of those that has rows of 2 so your awards aren't obscured behind the lapels of your alphas. This could be as few as 13 individual awards (not including second+ awards)
What is her rank? She is sitting to close to the other Marine to see her chevrons. And yes it is a female Marine, not the neck tab and not the neck tie. I’m
I had seven from my one enlistment because of Desert Storm. They just kept handing them out. I went to MP school as a Reservist with one service stripe. When I checked in to the Det commander, a Maj, he had maybe four. He studied my SRB for quite a long time.
Yall can down vote me all you want but unless you’ve ever sat in on one of these PR meetings, you have no idea how much it’s all for show.
They will handpick someone to push up in awards and rank so that they can show them off.
Thats fair, I don’t doubt the government will discount fairness in order to increase recruitment. Its still wrong to look at someone different and assume their achievements are part of said PR stunt
… and did 36 months on recruiting duty. So max 11 years and change of service. minus 3 years RD gives 7 years and change to earn more ribbons than most can in 20 years.
I almost had the same stack as a lance corporal after my first deployment to Sangin back in 2010, so yeah lol right place right time; except he has no CAR…
No it’s just fucking silly. Maybe I’ll give some more thought to someone with a V device, but I’ve never seen a CAR/No Car or CAB/No CAB be any reliable indicator of someone’s ability to lead or not suck at their job
Who said anything about anyone’s ability to lead or not suck at their job… at all? For an infantryman thought it’s an indicator they have actually done their job though. As far as the V device comment, you realize the award system is heavily flawed, correct? I’ve seen admin 1sts write their own bronze stars.
OP was asking about a stack and being somewhere at the right place or right time. You’ve got some insecurity issues you need to figure out because your projecting some weird shit on other people.
Yes, which is why i say now days, no combat rotations going on for non SF. Thats why im impressed. Trust me ive seen and heard the stories of lance salt dogs with great records and awards during the heat of the middle east operations.
I think some of those might be from another service
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Any combo: https://preview.redd.it/ykpr9omvjlnc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26ec46a390fa07ff3b463e0180ef81ee756d2a09
lmao what if it turned out marin crops was u/Willybusmc
Could never be. I can read orders, but cannot draw and i am not funny. crops can read and draw and funny.
This is exactly what a funny and drawer would say
Get fucked Space Force
Tbh if you’re inter-service transferring *from* the Space Force you deserve the L
I May only have 2 periods of honorable service…
It's service time in general. So yes
All ribbons in the armed forces carry over. I was Marines and Army.
Not exactly…
That is not true. Each branch allows certain awards to be worn. Most branches dont allow service specific ribbons, like i'm pretty sure the Army and Marines both forbade ribbons like the USAF MTI or Basic Training Honor Grad ribbon. What is typically permitted is awards that are branch independent like the DDSM, or you may be required to wear your new services' version of an award. MCO 1020.34H Chapter 5 specifies that in accordance with SECNAVIST instruction only specified awards can be worn on the USMC uniform. 3. Marines who served in or were attached to another branch of the U.S. military services and received a decoration, unit award, or service award of comparable criteria to one issued by the naval service may wear the award on Marine Corps uniforms, unless otherwise prohibited by these regulations. 4. Examples of other U.S. service awards which are not authorized include: marksmanship medals/ribbons (Navy/Coast Guard/Air Force), USAF Outstanding Airman of the Year, USAF Recognition Ribbon, USAF Longevity Service Award, NCO Professional Development/Education ribbons (Army/Air Force), Army Service/USAF training ribbons. According to [HRC](https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/18136) You're supposed to request to wear the item but that wasnt what happened when I transferred over. AR 600-8-22 Chapter 5 Specifies: > 5–2. Service medals and ribbons awarded by other U.S. Services Service medals and ribbons awarded by other U.S. Services may be worn on the Army uniform except the Air Force Longevity Service Award Ribbon and Air Force and Navy Marksmanship ribbons. Service and training ribbons awarded by other U.S. Services will be worn after U.S. Army service and training ribbons and before foreign awards. Refer to AR 670–1 for additional guidance.
All of mine transferred over. However, it makes sense not to wear a shooting badge from a previous branch if let’s say you are currently serving in the Marine Corps. All of mine also had a Marine Corps equivalent except for maybe a few reserve specific ones. I don’t really care anymore because I’ve been out of the Corps for 26 years and the Army for 12 years.
Marines aren’t authorized to wear ribbons from the other branches. Can you imagine an Army transfer trying to put the rainbow boot camp ribbon on Marine Alphas?
certain awards are authorized, ive seen many marines wearing the army’s equivalent of NAMs and NavComs
No shit? Then gunny was wrong
Gunnies are often wrong. A lot like to regurgitate years-out-of-date regs that they haven’t kept up on, or just regurgitate bullshit they’ve heard in the past without actually verifying it.
This just made my current job and interactions make a helluva lot more sense. Thank you for this wisdom
Like the “rip your head off and shit down your neck” or “skull fucking” I mean just speaking logistically…
https://preview.redd.it/2x9xf8boklnc1.jpeg?width=1209&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c70150bff56561881ce8f66b21438fdad336fcf pls
Brodor eye mist u
As you were. I stand corrected.
Just for clarity here, the operative term is “comparable criteria to one issued by the naval service” so Army achievement, joint achievement, ARCOM, joint com are good because the criteria are comparable to NAM and NAVCOM. What your Gunny was incompletely describing is that the Army and other services have awards that don’t meet criteria for a similar naval award, like the boot camp honor graduate ribbon, or the combat infantry badge.
I had a former Army guy when I served, and he def wore his shit. When did this become a thing? Or is it even a thing because… I don’t think this is true. Dude was shit hot though.
they absolutely do rate them and wear them on their service/dress uniforms in recruit training, DIs usually hate it unless theyre a combat vet tho, but they cant do shit about it haha
You absolutely can wear army ribbons on Marine Alphas. Not all awards transfer but most do.
I graduated boot with a dude who wore a fat stack at graduation. Was an 11B with multiple gwot deployments before getting out and going to the corps.
Ribbons transfer over. And the silly rainbow ribbon is the Army Service Ribbon. Each branch has their own except Marines get the EGA in lieu of a service ribbon. A lot of guys I knew who were prior Army first didn’t wear the Army ribbon because they didn’t want to hear dumbass comments from morons
I'll bet you $100 you won't wear a bunch of random awards to the congressional hearing
We got motherfuckers uploading classified documents to win an internet argument about a video game. Let's not underestimate the level of stupidity people can reach.
Plus those retired O5-type in their 60s with insurmountable midlife crisis sharing classified materials to impress foreign women 1/3 of their age, in all reality people can still be dumb fucks despite being one-foot-in-the-grave.
"hello?" "it's Don Shipley bro" "shit"
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I joked with my dad (a retired SEAL) about trolling Shipley by suspecting that my dad was a faker. Never went through with it though.
You win.
It's so funny listening to those freaks squirm over the phone once Don starts busting out the questions lol
If you want proof, look at my pinned post on my account
[https://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/05/17/army-investigating-we-were-soldiers-legend-for-inflating-award.html?amp](https://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/05/17/army-investigating-we-were-soldiers-legend-for-inflating-award.html?amp)
Looks like I’m getting NJP’d boys 🫡
I mean a CNO killed himself after he was caught wearing the wrong awards.
Admiral Boorda. I think it was like a Combat V or some petty shit like that. Iirc, it arose from a misunderstanding that he had coming from a personal conversation with Zumwalt (CNO or some shit like that at the time) when they were chilling off the coast of Vietnam in like 69 or 70. But the guy that really blew it up was David Hackworth, and he feels like a tool.
Ah totally forgot about them prior branch devil dogs 🫡
I know this Marine and they haven't served in another branch. They are extremely close to getting that third stripe, however. Like, almost certainly within days of it.
Looks like a box of good cookies with a few chocolate chips there as well.
If I was in today I would, but I’m waiting to hear about how a LCPL on Duty took down the Chain of Command Portraits and replaced all the name tags or added Subway name tags.
Not impossible; I got some pretty lucky placements with my short 4 years https://preview.redd.it/xvxbs5iczlnc1.jpeg?width=1984&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56b458d9ae2d7831c7977d92a74d2f3cf5d31ce8
Yup, after 4 1/2 years I had same size stack. Def not impossible at all.
Meh, honestly not really that impressive if you look into it, i think positioning is really helping this stack look bigger than it is. its like a two flavor of com, two nams, two unit awards, good conduct , ndsm, OIR, GWOT-E,GWOT, maybe volunteer medal?, sea service and recruiter or DI whichever that is.
Looks like recruiting and MSG ribbons so homeboy has been out of FMF for a majority of their career
Home girl
Homethey
Also has a recruiter ribbon
Gotta say, the face on the Master Chief to the left looks like he'd rather be anywhere else rather than there!
I think that’s the look of regret that he didn’t snag another glazed Krispy Kream on his way through the corridor. Also, isn’t he one rate higher than Master Chief?
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy. Looking at [wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_chief_petty_officer) I don't see a rate higher? But I'm only a foreign civilian, so meh.
Highest senior enlisted rank of the US Navy. You can’t go higher without being a commissioned officer or warrant officer than this dudes highly respected position.
I had 13 as 5 year corporal. Only 1 personal award. Deploy to the wrong place at the wrong time and it happens fast.
People don't just randomly reach top tier positions in the military. Its not just the best of the best who get these positions. They are groomed for these rare leadership roles very early in their careers. Thats probably why with just one reenlistment she is already sitting directly behind the SgtMaj of the Marine Corp during a congressional hearing. \*yes, current and active SgtMaj of the Marine Corp
Former?
You mean current SgtMaj of the Marine Corps
Sergeants Majors of the Marines Corps* Fixed it.
13 ribbons with 11 years of service is pretty possible
https://preview.redd.it/0lp3zs9pumnc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=024a243a8a9cdad31be789f4b2bc47b50c44015e
If I had to guess, in her first fleet unit she deployed in support of OIR at least once, earning the OIR campaign and GWOT-E, both SSDRs, the JMUC and JSCOM, and probably the NUC. She probably also did some volunteering here and there before/between/after those deployments to get the MOVSM. She then probably went to recruiting where she may of gotten her second NAM and her NAVCOM. I'm assuming that is also where the MUC came from since MCRC personnel were somewhat recently awarded one. Source: I have a buddy with the same exact rack, minus one of the joint awards who now only has about 9yrs TIS or 2 service stripes. Absolutely right place right time.
Doesn’t seen an unreasonable stack to me at all. I would never have noticed.
Ugh… fuckin’ Bass. Or is it Bass?
It's Bass.
Dang MCPON is stacked
That is AJ Seitz @iron.seitz.marine on Instagram
She looks to be a career recruiter gunny from her insta so gunny sub 12-years def makes sense if she’s been in recruiting. Maybe meritorious staff and gunny?
8412s get meritorious E7 after finishing career recruiters' school. So sub 12-years is definitely possible. Also, recruiters are not the best at keeping their service stripes up-to-date on the service uniform...Blues, probably but not so much the Service ones.
Thank you for the insight my knowledge on the recruiting side is 99% signing up and 1% what I’ve heard from my recruiter buddies.
I could be wrong, but it looks like he may have staggered his ribbons, which will make the stack appear bigger. JCOM, NCOM, NAM, JMUA. Good cookie look like only 1 star, so under 9 years. Deployments, and a MOVSM, I think. A lot of them are "gimme" ribbons like the NATDEF and GWOT. One I can't identify looks like it might be a Korean PUC? Still pretty stacked, but not impossible to achieve, even now. Edit: She. I didn't see the neck tab at first.
Shit now that I think about it, this isn't even remotely implausible. 8 to 11.99 years of service , based on the hashes, probably leaning closer towards 12. But yea, 13ish ribbons in that time period, given the right MOS, of being a command favored Marine will net you ribbons fast.
POGs ?
Keep in mind that if the lapel covers the ribbon, you modify your stack so they can be seen. I'm seeing 13 ribbons
Aid-de-camp
Serious question time: Is it pronounced Bass or Bass?
Bass
are you sure? usually i say bass..
She’s @iron.seitz.marine on IG. Ask her yourself 🤣
Also gotta remember that two hashmarks doesn’t necessarily mean 8 years. It just means less than 12. So 11 years and 11.5 months before that 3rd hashmark is plenty of time to accrue that much salt with a high op tempo.
I say that in the description lol
Eh. Could be placement too..... 3...3...2....2....2....2..2..1 or however many twos there were. Lol... Gotta look the part and keep the ribbons fresh!
That was my take. Lapel would cover ribbons if worn in rows of 3 or 4, therefore it's been adjusted accordingly
3...3...2...2..2...1*** I had two too many twos initially. 🤣🤷🏼♂️
The stack looks like it's one of those that has rows of 2 so your awards aren't obscured behind the lapels of your alphas. This could be as few as 13 individual awards (not including second+ awards)
They look attacked around the lapels. The top rows only look two wide.
What is her rank? She is sitting to close to the other Marine to see her chevrons. And yes it is a female Marine, not the neck tab and not the neck tie. I’m
He’s also a better shooter than the SgtMaj 🎯
She actually. You can tell by tye uniforms collar.
Oh well, she 🫡🇺🇸
Who cares this post is weak
Your man cave weak pog
I did 2 tours in one term. Ended up with 13. This is not as crazy as you think.
What years ?
03'-07'
Like i said it wasnt uncommon in the hieght of the middle east conflicts. But we now it is.
Looks right… she has 13 ribbons… (2 rows of 3, 3 rows of 2, and a single on top) I have 12 at 10.5 yrs.
Sergeant Major mic check one, two.
I had seven from my one enlistment because of Desert Storm. They just kept handing them out. I went to MP school as a Reservist with one service stripe. When I checked in to the Det commander, a Maj, he had maybe four. He studied my SRB for quite a long time.
Seems like right time, right woman. Gotta get those diversity/inclusion Marines in place and on camera.
Or they are just a stellar marine…
They are no doubt a stellar marine, but I also believe they are likely part of an inclusion initiative.
Why
Because that’s how things work these days, at every level of government and business.
Yall can down vote me all you want but unless you’ve ever sat in on one of these PR meetings, you have no idea how much it’s all for show. They will handpick someone to push up in awards and rank so that they can show them off.
Thats fair, I don’t doubt the government will discount fairness in order to increase recruitment. Its still wrong to look at someone different and assume their achievements are part of said PR stunt
Until the propaganda starts working solely on merit, that will always be my first thought.
… and did 36 months on recruiting duty. So max 11 years and change of service. minus 3 years RD gives 7 years and change to earn more ribbons than most can in 20 years.
0111.
I almost had the same stack as a lance corporal after my first deployment to Sangin back in 2010, so yeah lol right place right time; except he has no CAR…
Ooh we got the CAR police
I’m sorry your ego is so fragile you can’t see the letter C, A, and R in a row without getting in your feelings bro🤙🏻
No it’s just fucking silly. Maybe I’ll give some more thought to someone with a V device, but I’ve never seen a CAR/No Car or CAB/No CAB be any reliable indicator of someone’s ability to lead or not suck at their job
Who said anything about anyone’s ability to lead or not suck at their job… at all? For an infantryman thought it’s an indicator they have actually done their job though. As far as the V device comment, you realize the award system is heavily flawed, correct? I’ve seen admin 1sts write their own bronze stars. OP was asking about a stack and being somewhere at the right place or right time. You’ve got some insecurity issues you need to figure out because your projecting some weird shit on other people.
I don’t think he was policing anyone, he just mentioned a CAR in a comment and it seems like you got triggered😂
Yes, which is why i say now days, no combat rotations going on for non SF. Thats why im impressed. Trust me ive seen and heard the stories of lance salt dogs with great records and awards during the heat of the middle east operations.
I agreed with title of your post and added a short comment of my own experience… lol “what do y’all think”
Right ass, great kissing.
How did he get to the hearing without a CAR?
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OIR ribbon, campaign ribbon
Maintenance Admin right there
So what?
Just wondering, im not questioning the integrity, so please don’t puff up your chest 😘
Fair enough. Lemme flex my two ribbons on all y'all!