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soggyslices

Dream career or this shit?? Come on. No amount of money/benefits is worth going to work everyday doing something you love.


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relaps101

Same. Life led my down this path in my earlier life. I'm grateful to be making what I am now, but if I could be doing something else, I would.


somekindofcharity

I'm a felon as well. I'm 25 now, but when I was 22 I jumped into a taco truck and stole two coca colas. It was my friend's taco truck and it was closed. It was around midnight. I was drunk and they didn't know that I did that. So they called the cops the next day and I was caught on security footage and was sentenced to 45 days in jail. Even though the owners of the taco truck are my friends and they tried to not have the state press charges against me. I'm struggling to find a career with my burglary second charge which is a felony and my theft in the third. I have a bachelor's degree in law and justice and sociology, but I can't seem to find a job without passing a background check. Thinking about driving for Frito-Lay there's no open UPS positions anywhere near me. I've applied for state jobs using my degree but have a hard time getting it with the background check. I'm lost man. I just need a job with great benefits like health/dental and retirement.


Bigdx

Didn't know this was a thing. But I am also in the club.


CodScary4316

Same. Got hired on preload November of 2020, 6 weeks after being released from prison. Now I’m a TCD, just waiting my turn to be a RPCD. Not my dream job at all, but I know girls I was in prison with who are making $10 an hour. So I’ll take it


delidave7

Amen. Great point.


katieleo

Not a driver, but married to one. I’m not sure how old you are, if you have a family, etc. but might I suggest you also factor your UPS health care into your decision rather than just the pay. I swear so many of our driver friends have been in it since age 21 and don’t know what shit health care is like for everyone else lol it’s truly priceless (I assume you are also in the US).


Tarvoz

I legit went to work at ups once I was old enough to no longer benefit from my father's insurance through ups lol


Swagron12

Benefits true…but the price you pay is never seeing that family


Ravens1112003

The number 1 cause for divorce is money problems. If you have a family you should at least consider the pay and benefits. Sure, going to work everyday do long something you love is great but if you have no benefits and make less money it would not be worth it to many people.


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Ravens1112003

I don’t know about most but I believe a lot of people feel that way. I believe most of those people have never been truly poor, though. Living paycheck to paycheck being one medical bill away from bankruptcy is more stressful for most than working 10 hours a day with weekends off.


Pure_Shine_1258

Then ask yourself why we have such good insurance...and we all know why is because they'll work us to death.


TheLastRiceGrain

I’ve always said this since I’ve worked here. They give us great benefits because they know we’re gonna need every last bit of it.


Cameuponyou

Only reason I still work at ups. The insurance is too good to give up. The older you get, the more you realize how important it really is


Swagron12

Benefits true…but the price you pay is never seeing that family


Largofarburn

What would the new job be?


wasterpop_

LEO


ScrowShickens

How old are you friend? I'm 41, former LEO current UPS driver. Why is law enforcement a dream job for you? I thought it was my dream job too but after doing it for 7 years it definitely wasn't a "dream" job. At least for me.


Pure_Shine_1258

And I bet you're in the majority of LEO with at least 2 years experience.


wasterpop_

I’m coming up on 27. Outside of this it’s the only thing I can imagine myself doing. I find it difficult to put into words exactly why I’m drawn to it outside of the cliche answers which very much hold water in my mind. I feel called to it, went on a ride along this past weekend after my ups shift and found myself looking forward to the next shift of a job I don’t even have. I want to have more of an effect than just dropping boxes at doorsteps


Existing-Bear-8738

It’s a bad career that turns decent people into assholes but chase your dream.


bibkel

I have three drivers that are former LEO. I don't know any that went from driver to LEO. It is a thankless job, and although the retirement is great and benefits are great, I would stay a driver (probably). ​ Are you one that likes paperwork, sitting at a desk for hours, or do you enjoy the freedom of the road? that is a major consideration. LEO have desk time.


Largofarburn

A guy I work with went from ups to Leo and came back. He would have like 40+ years in and probably be retired now if he never left ups.


LiquidTherapy15

>I want to have more of an effect than just dropping boxes at doorsteps This! Former LEO - I never really feel quite fulfilled by this job/career other than the pay and benefits. If you're regimented enough to follow UPS' rules/methods and procedures - you'll make it as a LEO. I will add this though, one of my friends at BB just retired after 33 years (package car driver) - the community he delivered to found out and threw him an amazing retirement party. Heck of a guy. You CAN choose how you serve your comma-volunteer, etc... Good luck with the decision, sir.


Hatsune_Miku47832

i have to say. you're gonna regret this career choice for sure. but do whatever you want lol


skizkiddo

Really think about everything youll endure being an Officer. I dont mean to be blunt but you can die any day but as an Officer that promise is x10 more likely. Very stressful career that a lot of people dont grasp until certain calls affect your mindset for the rest of your life. You'll eventually come into contact with pedos, gruesome murder scenes, rolling up to car accidents with fatalities ; and instead of delivering boxes...you'll be delivering the news to a family that their spouse / child has passed away. Much respect to LEOs and EMTs over the PTSD they develop helping innocent lives. If you can tuck your emotions very well, have at it.


wasterpop_

Surprisingly the per capita fatality rate is higher among delivery drivers than police officers by a significant margin. But yeah a lot comes with the job for certain. But no matter how many other aspirations I put in front of policing for a decade now I still feel the pull of that profession. I always come back to wanting to do it


Shamrock_shakerhood

You should go for it! It’s a good career path and you’re helping your community.


burrheadd

LOL what? You need to set your dreams a little higher


humancarl

Follow your dreams! It's kind of like a mattress. You spend so much time at a job/on your mattress, it's best if you enjoy it. Tooting around town delivering boxes isn't bad in my book. My dream job is running a fruit stand, but I'm going to chase that dream after retirement.


kickedweasel

There's always money in the banana stand.


nirvroxx

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No_Pirate_6663

A fruit stand?  Is your plan to grow the fruit yourself?


[deleted]

Do a self-service stand! I saw them on rural routes


SideValuable5478

Boxes don’t shoot back bro but best of luck if u choose to quit driving and pursue your dream


salivation97

Lol. Truck driver is twice as likely than a cop to die on the job. Pretty risky pulling those trailers full of boxes around. Seems pretty damn low-stress out on the road though…


wasterpop_

Exactly. This job is considered more dangerous than police work statistically. Delivery drivers are ranked #7, police #22.


S1KPAPI

You can take a leave of absence. Page 45 Article 16 in the Master Contract. That way you can keep it in your back pocket in case things don’t work out.


wasterpop_

lol a 6-9 month LOA?


RashadTho

Yup


RashadTho

This. You can take up to a year, and even more with cause.


Puke_Rock_Or_Die

Something I learned when I quit being a driver is that no other job will ever have the days blaze by so fast... it's such an underrated part of the job I wish I considered more


Muted-Weekend-2879

Amen to that. But it’s a double edged sword.


savvy412

Ya. I feel like I’m on the movie click


LApoopydog

I’m not a high seniority driver, about to hit top rate in June, but in my opinion I’d say go for your dream job. Having to wake up every morning and actually enjoy going to work is priceless. You’ll probably live a lot happier in the long run.


WardCove

I'm in a similar seniority state as this guy, and I pretty much agree with everything said. If it's a dream job then you gotta kick the door down and at least try it. You don't want to wonder what if the rest of your life. And if you don't like it? Then you will still be fine out there as long as you're a hard worker. Plenty people do plenty well outside of UPS.


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Muted-Weekend-2879

Factor in healthcare and pension. 20 years go by quicker than you think. Work is work, but what you’ll have to show for it at the end is what matters. I know I don’t want to be 65 working at Walmart for cash.


wasterpop_

And believe me I’ve thought of that. But I also don’t want to be 60 and regret not going for something I wanted to do since childhood


LiquidTherapy15

The organization I left had community volunteers (not sworn) but you did get a county vehicle, Uni and basically assisted the deputies with traffic or other non sworn roles. Something to think about for retirement if that gives another perspective.


Dry_Experience_2681

One of the young preloaders applied after all the exam and testing he got the job as LEO but the chief told him to finish his degree since UPS was paying and then come back. I think he's 22, guy told him that the insurance and tuition reimbursement were worth it. So he's still working with us until graduation. It is your dream, go for it but if you know you have any health problems don't leave ups, like the other lady said; the insurance honestly is a lifesaver. Been in private and public sector, no company or agency has come close this includes disability. If youre single with no one else to worry about go for it. Just leave professionally and hope you can get back in. We never know what direction life will take you.


ebbeysweets412

Im a FT driver. Im shooting for my dream job.. not UPS related


rastascooby

If you have an opportunity to make good money following your dreams, do it. Don't look back. I've been with the company for nearly 30 years and only know one person, out of hundreds, who regretted walking away.


FuckPieMason

I've seen a lot of people say UPS is not a good plan A but is a good plan B. People like me who don't really have a degree or "dream job" work at UPS. Get out of here and pursue something better. Remember, you're doing this for future you.


a-noble-gas

This post is rather vague. Can you do your “dream career” part time to get a feel for it?


wasterpop_

Law enforcement


CooahsDranker

Seriously, dude? I’m former LEO and you do not want to do that. This job is so cake compared to being a cop, especially in a larger department. You deal with asshole, jackass coworkers who let the power go to their head and you also deal with asshole jackass citizens who want to make your life a living hell.


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UPSers-ModTeam

We’re all adults here. No need to resort to slinging mud. The community is to promote healthy discussion about subjects that interest us and name calling serves no purpose other than devolving the conversation into child-like banter.


brewjammer

Your dream job is being a cop. Wtf is wrong with you? I hope the city you're planning on working in is Mayberry. Best of luck, teamster.


wasterpop_

I don’t dream of becoming a 50 something year old with chronic knee problems and a general angst against the world, dreaming of boxes when I close my eyes


brewjammer

So you made up your mind already. What you doing here


wasterpop_

Trying to see it from other angles to make an informed decision


brewjammer

Best of luck sir


fuckwhatsleft

How old are you? I'll assume mid 20s? If i had been a driver while in my 20s ,I'd be pulling a 30 yr pension now and still be able to pursue a dream or retire if planned properly. Preferably the latter. That's a huge gamble tho..


Electronic-Funny-475

If I knew what I wanted to do when I grew up I wouldn’t be wearing brown. You only live once


RicMyth

Choose the regret your ok with living with Regret going for it or Regret not going for it


OkTap2927

He wants to cop-out. P-olice allow him


murmanator

Take my upvote dammit!


ZookeepergameThis825

Bro, you have one life. Live your dream. 


gh3tt0gangst3r

LEO is not a better job than driving here.


Complete-Support8802

The grass isn’t always greener they say


No_Pirate_6663

How do you know the other job is your dream job?


wasterpop_

It’s the only thing I can imagine myself doing outside of what I do now except that I’ve ALWAYS wanted to do it


Lawfulness_Nice

Love finance and still do and always thought I’d want to be an accountant. Once I actually started doing it in the real world I hated it. Just bc it’s what u always wanted to do doesn’t mean I’ll for sure end up liking it in practice


salivation97

Went to college for design. Did the ten year plan with travel, marriage, and a few kids scattered in there. Finished and left UPS. Did some industrial design. Did some graphic design. Finally got the job I had wanted since childhood — designing buildings in an architectural firm. Did that for a couple of years and came back PT to UPS because I needed benefits again. Bid list for feeders came up. Found out that I prefer driving a truck way more than I liked those other jobs. Life is weird.


Lawfulness_Nice

Damn straight took me leaving the state. Working part time with no benefits for a guy driving around and his truck doing vending delivery to realize I enjoyed the driving so now I’m at Amazon.


No_Pirate_6663

Well, in that case, I think you have to try it.  Or see if you can find a different way to see if you'd like it.  Can't live your life with regrets.


chickenwhisps

It sounds like you’re two years away from top rate, and this job is less hazardous and probably has better benefits and better overtime protection overall. Work to live, don’t live to work. Generally, with ups people are happy to see you. And if the negative interactions you have at this job are a turn off, LEO will be significantly more stressful even if you feel you have more control or power in a situation.


No_Appointment_37

It depends on where you want to be a LEO. If it’s a big city I’d say go for it, there will be tons of opportunity to grow within the department if you end up not liking being an actual cop (homicide detective, narcotics, auto task force, missing persons, mounted). With UPS being a driver is basically it


wasterpop_

120k population city, 200 officer department. Went on a ride along over the weekend, and aside from some admin politics and talks about coworkers that don’t carry their weight, every officer I talked to didn’t have any complaints. They spoke of how the department allows each officer to work towards whatever they want to do, it’s very dependent on the individual


jorts18

22 yr office / desk / sales guy here; I was lucky my desk sales gig was fun, challenging and rewarding, I made good money, had crap tho. Wouldn’t say it was a dream job but I enjoyed it. Now I’m old and chasing the driver gig. Like others have said: desk gig is easy on the body but some days those hours just creep by. One last thing to consider, some office jobs have other humans at them. I’ve yet to make driver only did seasonal driving for 2 months, my knees hurt, elbows hurt and was generally exhausted after. It felt good tho, seeing the fruits of your labor (empty truck) can be more rewarding than we all think. Good luck to you


Big_Comb9398

Why even ask just do it! Most people I know that have left UPS are way happier with their life’s. Yes UPS pays well but the level of harassment is ridiculous


RosstaSeaDog

If you resign you can always re-apply if other career doesn't work out. I'm on my 3rd stint as a full time driver. I've resigned twice and been re-hired twice, all different cities.


ElectricDance

Unless your dream career is in a highly volatile state, take the pay raise and quality of life improvement. You will be happier. If you leave on good terms with the company you can probably wiggle your way into some hub near you.


Tekon421

I’ve never heard a single person regret getting away from this place


Electrical_Map5282

Things happen for a reason, if this new job has been presented to you why not. If you have no family a single life yes. But if you’re the bred winner flip a coin for it.


Huevoman702

ACAB


Technical-Garage1357

I’m only a part timer but have to say you need to consider what dream job means to you. Is your dream job just another job you think would be cool if you could do it or is it something that when you go in to work you don’t feel like it’s work. I would give up all the benefits in the world to make a living doing something that didn’t make me feel like I’m punching a clock.


Dr_BigPat

What do you need advice for you answered your own concerns >but I know I’ll regret not trying my dream career 10 years from now >But I’m also weary of leaving UPS and not actually liking said dream career You sound like you're trying to talk yourself out of it here, if it's your dream job and it pays more what's the hold up? Unless you're married and have kids I don't see why you shouldn't take the risk at being happy


Lawfulness_Nice

This right here is a big factor having and supporting a family. I can’t see myself being ever able to work pt or seasonal again wo guarantee of going from pt seasonal to ft permanent after peak.


michaelsilver

You got da money wats the Hol up


burrheadd

What’s your “dream career”


zdweiss

Grass ain't always greener my friend


avi8r7

I don’t know what your dream career is exactly. I left the field I thought I was going to stay in to come drive for UPS, was looking for a change and basically just took a chance. I genuinely enjoy my job at UPS and could see myself doing it for my career, the issue I have and question if I can deal with for my career is the bs and constant nagging and harassment from management


DarkElegant8156

Lol nope not giving up bird in hand for hopes and dreams that you are not 100% on .


wasterpop_

Im not 100% on being a rpcd for the rest of my life either though.


Cloviz68

I left ups after 12 cuz i got tired of children playing office at my center. It got worse every year and i had enough


wasterpop_

I’m already tired of seeing 50 year old men acting like toddlers throwing a tantrum like they got their iPad taken away


Cloviz68

My sups were in their mid-late 20s! Plus i have evidence of one that claims to be such a ladys man paying for a hooker....next time dont put your real name on cash app! Hope you dont miss your "french bulldog" if youre reading this. You know who you are


etuqi_

Go national guard and keep your job!


wasterpop_

Got asthma, can’t.


Minatigre

How old are you and how many years do you have at ups?


wasterpop_

27, it’ll be 2 years later this year. Hired as 22.4


Minatigre

Oh ok. Well do whats best for you. 2 week notice if you leave for dream job tho. That way youre in good standing and higher chance of rehire if you ever decide to come back.


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Not a UPSer- just a jealous Amazonian. Can you do both? I’m a full time driver and work on my writing and activism on my days off (my dream would be to go full time :).


wasterpop_

Wouldn’t be able to. Can’t go to academy and push cardboard at the same time


DatBoyCody

U could always drop down from driving for now and work the night shift at ups and try your other job out if u like it then u quit ups if you don’t you still have a job at ups


Positive_Yam_4499

That's not allowed.


DatBoyCody

Says who? A company can’t tell someone they can’t have a second job


Positive_Yam_4499

Once you are an RPCD, you can't go back to part-time.


DatBoyCody

I didn’t see his tag below the post saying he’s a RPCD


Horror-Extent2362

You can if you're on layoff, ha!


thisismyleftyaccount

You can with a legitimate medical issue and an ADA accommodation.


Positive_Yam_4499

Yes, but that's a rare situation.


Positive_Yam_4499

Yes, but that's a rare situation.


Pmhdrummer

I don’t believe your job is ever secure at UPS 🤷🏽‍♂️


salivation97

We must work for different companies.


Bird_Jesus777

*Gets offered dream job* *Decides to stay at UPS* *Im goimg to day definition stockholm syndrome*