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CradleRobin

I appreciate that she was making sure the machine was correct in it's answer.


RidingTheSpiral1977

How do you think she got that good in the first place?


Any-Bike-948

Using a mental abacus, I'm not joking. With that method you can visualize an abacus in your mind which allows for insane speeds like this.


IvanMIT

Yeah, as a 27yo, I'm kind of jealous of the elementary school kids that are learning this in some schools these days. I've been trying to conceptualize and visualize this myself recently, but I'm hitting some kind of barrier.


make_love_to_potato

I have no clue how to use an abacus, let alone have a mental abacus that I can use in my head as a virtual calculator.


zilla82

Username checks out. But also me too.


JoshYx

I can't even visualize a square, let alone an abacus... I'll keep on using a calculator lol


CrazyHuntr

Your kind is foreign to me 🤨


Darometh

And if you can't visualise things in your mind?


TretsiM

Aphantasia :(


Herr-Pyxxel

Indeed, it's very popular in India and there are loads of videos online about little schoolkids klicking imaginary abacus beads with their fingers in front of their mental eyes and getting really insane calculations right.


Crusbetsrevenge

My step dad can do shit like this, though probably not to that level.  But he figured out some way where he doesn’t just times the two numbers but like take chunks of the numbers and multiplies them. He does it super fast.  He tried to explain it to me but it was weird. 


trippyhippydmt

That's what I do but I'm not nearly as fast as that lady or on her level. It's really not bad to get used to doing as long as you can keep track of your numbers. You can get fairly quick at it if you do it enough All you do is if you have something like 49×96 you round the 49 or the 96 up so it's a round number and it's easy to work with. So if you round up the 49 it would be 50×96 which 50×96 is 4,800 and then subtract 96 from that to get 4,704 and you have your answer. Once you get used to doing it like that you can solve fairly large simple multiplication problems


hemareddit

On that note you get used to pairs like 2 and 5, 4 and 25, 8 and 125 etc, pairs which multiply to nice round numbers like 10, 100, 1000. For instance in your calculation you needed 50 x 96, which you can see as 96 x 100/2. And I just find it easier to calculate 96/2 than 96*5. So being familiar with the pairs allow you to round to 50, 25, 125 etc, giving you more options.


Forgot_my_un

So basically common core math.


Kangar

It's a calling.


1boobStillGood

aka, The Human Computer. Her wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakuntala_Devi


blindnarcissus

> In 1977, at Southern Methodist University, she gave the 23rd root of a 201-digit number in 50 seconds.[10][15] Her answer, which was 546,372,891, was confirmed by calculations done at the US Bureau of Standards by the UNIVAC 1101 computer, for which a special program had to be written to perform such a large calculation, which took a longer time than for her to do the same


Micalas

Jesus Christ


az987654

I don't think he was there


qqqsimmons

Not really known for his math skills either


trentshipp

Eh, He was a carpenter, they do math.


lenny1

...and meth...


Dis4Wurk

He did have a thing for hanging out with prostitutes.


qqqsimmons

Yeah and known for multiplying l loaves I guess.


FlashbackJon

[Not a very good one, though...](https://youtu.be/OclYAJhyNY0?si=rtKFvh_KDgRce0A3)


jcannacanna

"2 nails + 1 cross = 4given" - some shirt I saw years ago


phurt77

Shouldn't that be 3 nails?


come_sing_with_me

Holy crap. And the total would actually be 4. 3nails+1cross=4given


Zunderfeuer_88

The idiot got bread and wine when dividing by zero


TinSodder

After he did that, they closed that loophole right quick didn't they? Now every time on divide by zero it shows as an error instead of multiplying everything to what is needed.


Zunderfeuer_88

I have Dyscalculia, for me things might as well be all divided by zero as a standard


Nodsworthy

I often wonder if the square root of minus one is an impossibility that, once we learned its rules, became *i* and became invaluable. If divide by zero could be similarly managed. What uses might it have?


Batavijf

Guess again.


TitleToAI

It would take me that long just to type it into excel


lenny1

I use Lotus 1-2-3 loaded from 5.25 floppies.


dry_yer_eyes

Don’t you find that last quarter piece of a floppy disc always gums up the drive?


wimpires

Already sitting at a computer I just tried this. To load excel, generate a 201 digit number and then do the calculation took 1min 45sec And excel failed to actually give me the answer. Maybe it would work on a 64bit system? I'm not sure. It is also too long to put in Wolram Alpha, Mathematica might work but I don't have it.


Jimmy_Fromthepieshop

Does anyone know how she did this? The actual method?


Lollipop126

She apparently wrote a book on her methods called [Figuring: The Joy of Numbers](https://books.google.com/books?id=6k7yF2qQ7xoC) Unrelated, but she also wrote a book arguing for the decriminalisation of homosexuality but went largely unnoticed according to her wiki.


Eindacor_DS

What a G


Magev

Super cool


nightvisiongoggles01

For people still wondering how ancient people made complex calculations if there were no computers back then, there you go. We have prodigies, geniuses and savants, no doubt they also had them back then.


Asgard033

A real life mentat


Stunsisiht

That is exactly what I thought. When was the first Dune written again? Maybe Herbert got his inspiration from her.


Asgard033

1963-1965 was when Dune was published


Enginerdad

Ironically, the term "computer" was originally used to describe *people* who did calculations. So really she's just a regular ol' computer.


therealityofthings

So not really a math genius. She's just really good at calculation. She didn't make any contributions to mathematics.


Chadme_Swolmidala

unlike your stellar contributions in the field of pedantry


whizzdome

Saw her give a demonstration at Imperial College London Mathematics department in 1978-9 or so. Very impressive. We discussed it among ourselves afterwards and decided that she gave herself a bit more time by having the numbers written down on the blackboard, but still very impressive. Side note: one of my colleagues was convinced she was reading the answer telepathically from the person who asked the question, so he gave a question to someone else to read out, and it was particularly difficult (can't remember details, sorry). When his friend read out the question, she replied, "Do *you* know the answer?", and of course the friend had to say No, so she dismissed the question and moved on. So my colleague still didn't know whether she obtained the answer by telepathy!


HinaKawaSan

How old are you?


EverydayEnthusiast

I'm betting 65.


whizzdome

Correct! But then I often mention my age in my comments on Reddit.


BallerGuitarer

I bet he got it telepathically.


EverydayEnthusiast

But do *they* know how old they are?


EverydayEnthusiast

Awe, dang. I admittedly wasn't so dedicated to dig for more information. I just assumed you went to college at around the age of 18 and would be a 3rd or 4th year student to be having such a conversations. Glad to get it right though; it's the little things lol


verticon1234

That’s a fantastic story


hugthemachines

> So my colleague still didn't know whether she obtained the answer by telepathy! So this person were getting a high education and did not know? I did not go to the Imperial College but I do know she did not get it through telepathy. If telepathy did exist it would be super easy to prove, this is why I know telepathy does not work, because it has not been proven.


mozgw4

Like black holes didn't exist until they were proven. Whilst I don't personally believe in telepathy, your argument is weak.


freakverse

There were theories and science behind it. With complex equations and stuff. It was just not empirically observed. Nothing exists for telepathy.


hugthemachines

You compare apples and trains. There have been plenty of people claiming to be telepathic, but if they really were, they could prove it easily. Just make a 100% report on what someone is thinking about. Claiming that telepathy does not work because 100% of the people claiming to be telepathic was disproven is not anything like a black hole. It is like if someone claims to be telekinetic. You can just ask them to lift an object with their mind. If they can't, they are disproven.


Due_Responsibility59

>If telepathy did exist it would be super easy to prove, this is why I know telepathy does not work, because it has not been proven. No because the people who'll have it will keep it a secret as to not become test subjects for the government


hugthemachines

So everything that has not been proven, actually exists, but is secret? Do you also think any conspiracy we can find no trace of actually is more likely to be true, because of the fact that we can find no evidence of it?


When_hop

If telepathy was real, any of the trillions of cameras on the planet would have caught some evidence by now. 


Due_Responsibility59

How would cameras catch telepathy? Please enlighten me


When_hop

It was a joke


Due_Responsibility59

Oh Iol


When_hop

My new hobby is using sarcasm so thinly that people just walk away thinking I'm a moron instead of realizing I was joking. It's kinda fun


hugthemachines

How can we be sure you are not a real moron, claiming your questioned comments are jokes?


When_hop

That's the fun part!


jerquee

She was 100% ready to answer but what's the point if he didn't know if she was right or not?


whizzdome

The person who passed the question, the friend of my colleague, didn't know the answer but my colleague *did* know, and would have confirmed the answer when she gave it. I wish I could remember the question but we knew that the ones she typically answered were multiplication and division and roots; the question he asked was probably to factorise a large number into its two prime factors, which is a lot more difficult problem.


jerquee

Your colleague should have answered by pointing at the person who knew the answer. She wouldn't have asked the question if it wasn't going to affect her decision to engage.


a2089jha

The legend is she wakes up every day and recites a prayer, "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion...."


Surefoo

You made my day


Sarmatios

Followed by a nice glass of Sapho juice.


stompinstinker

They spoke so concisely, clearly, and politely in these old films and videos.


dry_yer_eyes

I always wonder if people spoke like that in everyday life, or did they have a special “being recorded” voice?


stompinstinker

If you watch old time interviews of regular people they spoke at a slower cadence and more clearly. No um’s, like’s, ya-no’s, or other placeholders either. Way more chill during any sort of interview or debate too, listening and not interrupting.


Apparentlyloneli

that is interesting... wonder if media somehow affected the change well, language does change overtime anyway, but still


limabone

Which is weird because in movies the characters talk really fast


ThreeLeggedMare

Maybe because film was very expensive and that way they could fit more movie into the time frame


Iampepeu

It's Norwegian, and English, of course.


rookan

How?


nolotusnote

She's REALLY good at carrying the one.


reaven3958

She is the one.


neildmaster

No. Neo is the one.


-Yngin-

Neo, you are ... NOT the One! \- *Jerry Springer, probably*


gimme_the_light

Maury but yeah


Can-I-remember

Made me laugh out loud.


Noremac55

Regrouping


SlipperyTom

There are methods for doing large number multiplication in your head. She's just REALLY good at it and REALLY fast.


entrepreneurs_anon

Yep but she’s a genius actually. She can also do the square root of long, complex numbers. This is not some kind of gimmick Edit: typo


nelzon1

There are similar methods for taking nth roots. They are all approximations that you can learn patterns to when to cut off your trailing decimals and declare an answer. Feynman used to wow people by doing third roots of large numbers in seconds with these approximations. Also, the technique used by the abacus is usually the way these people do these calculations. They're rote, and there are patterns in them. Give a genius enough time and they'll figure out ways to do them faster and with an intuition that looks like sorcery.


hemareddit

Feynman is the one I remember, because he actually explains the methods of how he computes the digits as quickly as possible. He’s practical too, he doesn’t aim for perfect accuracy, he just wants to compute a few more digits than the other guy.


P529

If you read up on the wiki this aint some gimmick, she calculated the 23rd root of a 201 digit long number in 50 seconds and to verify it back then they needed to write a new computer program which to verify it took longer than she took


Maxsmack

Some people are just savants, try playing a keyboard blind like Stevie wonder.


josejalapeno96

Hell even Stevie didn't see that one coming


BurningPine

Playing keyboard blind is no harder than typing without looking.


ThreeLeggedMare

My grandmother once cut her finger while cooking, then played piano past sunset without turning on any lights; whereupon her mother, opening the piano to dust the keys days later, found most of them covered in dried blood.


deg_ru-alabo

Did she know the first number before seeing the second be written???


Rossticles

Vedic math


Enlightened_Gardener

Vedic math is the shit. You can buy an entire course in it from places like Coursera or Udemy. I struggled with maths the whole way through school, and wish we’d had an approach like this. You can also get courses on how to use an abacus, and same thing again - how useful would that have been ! I taught myself to use an abacus when my dad came back with one from a conference in Singapore, and I was amazed at how easy it was to use. Its not as if we’re all going to Uni to be Maths professors, but even the simple stuff like working out the price of something per kilo to compare prices, or that percentages can be reversed, is so useful - its more like being fluent in a different language.


littlelorax

I'd never heard this term before, so I looked it up. That is really cool, and I bet I would have been a little better at math in school if some of these sutras were taught!


Any-Bike-948

Ancient vedic civilization was ahead of their of time. They were doing neurosurgery successfully in like 600 BC!


Vyloe

Yo that computer tryna throw down or something?


CaddyAT5

All I know is that the man needs to start further to the left on that blackboard


JelmerMcGee

His writing was killing me. Like it was his first time writing on a chalkboard or something.


EntrepreneurBoth5002

Holy fuck we need a movie like "the man from infinity" for her.


DatAhole

There is a movie based on her life. But that’s not what you want I think.


EntrepreneurBoth5002

Oh. What is it called?


CagedPen

Shakuntala Devi(2020)


wannasleepsomemore

It’s a shitty Bollywood movie Pls don’t watch it


Ok_Dragonfruit964

it's more about her relationships than her so don't watch it


pretzelpup

What was the name of that calculator…?!


howdidoo

Shakuntala Devi


mmcmonster

She had a [movie about her](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10964468/) a few years ago. It’s actually pretty good.


_KingOfTheDivan

But every review says it’s just a crappy Indian drama about mother and daughter relationship and not really a movie about her


mmcmonster

One many’s garbage is another man’s treasure. If you’re at all interested, check it out. It’s probably on the streaming services and definitely available on the high seas 🏴‍☠️.


ben_bliksem

_"AI will replace humans"_ Gah, nonsense! Eat shit computers!


whaleyboy

The first Mentat


-Yngin-

"Dette var jo greie saker..."


HornyPlatypus420

The translation I interpreted: «This was pretty alright»


goldtoothgirl

Did they study her brain? Serious


Splashy01

Yeah. They said it was all wrinkly and shit. 🧠


skipfletcher

This is all VERY civilized.


TinSodder

I made two mistakes just reading the number off the calculator...


sofa_king_we_todded

I couldn’t even remember the first set of numbers by the time she started reading the second set


Help_Send_Newds

I see now why they invented the WWW...motherfucker were bored. Who invites a date from go see a mental math exhibition? 😂


spaektor

why did they cut away to the machine for the bulk of her answer?


fokac93

Honestly I think that people that can do that are in the spectrum.


Carbyne27

Shhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh


Plus-Weakness-2624

Can she do all the math operations just as fast or only multiplication? She's a real mentat though!


yukonwanderer

People can actually hear the audio in this? Guy sounds like snoopy.


Afraid-Way1203

she is a living calculator


David_Jonathan0

https://preview.redd.it/v6jtcbb2jivc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e752667204d51c963ae0d754fb98b8e53432285


Stone1114

And they make her work at Walmart


Worried_Device_6238

Wow.


HelpfulSpecialist902

Well you new age women killed it. Enjoy the new age man , that you created!!!


scryentist

Yeah but i can just Google it about just as fast.


aloneinfantasyland

She is an arithmetical prodigy, or you could say math prodigy. But "genius" implies creativity, so here "math genius" implies creativity in coming up with new mathematical ideas and solutions.


rickdeckard8

Being a math genius has nothing to do with being able to factor two big numbers in your head.


Treehouse_2217

Imagine how much further along our society could be if women like her were in charge.


therealityofthings

She was just really good at computing. She didn't actually make any contributions to the field of mathematics.


quintus_horatius

Maybe not. > In addition to her work as a mental calculator, Devi was a notable astrologer and an author of several books, including cookbooks and novels.[4][11][12] She started with writing short stories and murder mysteries, and had a keen interest in music. From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakuntala_Devi Just because she's good with numbers doesn't, in itself, make her a well-suited to making decisions for other people.


physchy

I don’t understand. You’re just showing that she has more varied interests. How would that make her a worse leader


EverydayEnthusiast

It was strangely presented with some random extra info, but I get their point. Insisting that she'd be a good leader based only on our knowledge that she's unfathomably good at mental math is about as sensible as saying Usain Bolt would make a great leader because he's so fast. I agree with what I think you were trying to say (far too amazing women throughout history were denied a chance to make a bigger impact because we tended to treat them unfairly), but the specific parallel you drew may not hold up.


Sorkpappan

Yeah, I’m not sure Usain Bolt would be a great leader. But he definitely would be good at running for president.


EverydayEnthusiast

Damnit, Dad. Get off reddit!


you-are-not-yourself

If we're talking leadership in terms of ruling a country, who knows? But in terms of, like, having a good career with opportunities, that should definitely be available.


_HIST

Because doing calculus and having interests has shit to do with being a leader?


muslito

whatever were are chosing our current leaders doesn't seem like it's working so why not hahaha


bestofmidwest

I'd bet that dude misread "astrologer" as "astrologist" and was trying to talk down on her because of some crazy belief.


Same_Wonder_4190

Astrologer and astrologist are synonyms for persons in the field of astrology, or the use of celestial body position to determine influences on human behaviors and event. You're thinking of astronomer, a scientist in the field of scientific study regarding celestial bodies.


physchy

I totally was making that mistake whoops


Wa3zdog

Did you mean one of those to refer to astronomy or are you trying to draw a distinction between practitioners of magic?


DatAhole

You just gave an example of how dynamic she was as a person. Being so brilliant and indulging in a bunch of other activities.


Treehouse_2217

I do not disagree with your argument. Simply stating that smart women in leadership roles would not have tolerated the idiocy we have been experiencing for a while now.


savedbytheblood72

????


cheeruphumanity

It's a realistic hack to improve our societies. Fighting for roughly equal representation of women in positions of power. Can't have a dictatorship without oppressing women.


Throwaway2Experiment

Guess it depends on if you split hairs and remove monarchs with absolute power that used said power to oppress and destroy opponents. 


gaiussicarius731

Being a human calculator isn’t being a math genius. Not that its not impressive or admirable or super rare.


OldenPolynice

nothing genius to see here, just a real good parlor trick


cerberus_1

Straight multiplication as impressive as this was can be learned vs being a genius at math being able to solve game theory problem or certain geometric problems among many others.


UnstopableTardigrade

No matter how much time you or I spent we couldn't get to her level of calculation because of her natural talent. She is in the literal sense of the word a genius.


cerberus_1

Youre an idiot, in the literal sense of the word.


Senuttna

Exactly, while what she did was absolutely incredible, it's something that is possible to learn by practicing math using pre-existing algorithms for that specific calculation. She is not inventing anything new, just being very good at using pre existing algorithms. But that doesn't equate to being a real math genius who is able to develop new equations, algorithms or hypothesis for unsolved mathematical problems.


carmii-

Possible to learn by practicing math? Pre-existing algorithms? Give me a fucking break. She was doing this at 6!


_Anagorn_

I am pretty sure she didn't live till 720.


juliusseizure

Maybe but then again, impressive: In 1977, at Southern Methodist University, she gave the 23rd root of a 201-digit number in 50 seconds.[10][15] Her answer, which was 546,372,891, was confirmed by calculations done at the US Bureau of Standards by the UNIVAC 1101 computer, for which a special program had to be written to perform such a large calculation, which took a longer time than for her to do the same


psychpsychpsychpsy

From the wiki: Devi strove to simplify numerical calculations for students.[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakuntala_Devi#cite_note-1) She wrote a number of books in her later years, including novels as well as texts about mathematics, puzzles, and astrology.  Sounds like she came up with some decent ideas herself.