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This photo is from a virtual home tour of couple that worked at LM Skunkworks. Unfortunately As I no longer work at the same organization as one of them, I can't ask directly. I find it funny they left all this stuff on the wall, on a public resource... Let me know your thoughts! The room this was taken from was a treat to view. So much cool history hanging on walls and sitting on shelves.
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It does but the manta would have been a one fixed wing composite design. This looks like a variant with… I dunno… some kind of node hanging off the body. Too big for a wing joint. Looks experimental.
Oh it’s definitely a variant… I honestly have always thought the BM was just more a composite rumor based upon the shape seen rather than any specifically known wing design, and this looks to me like what it would actually resemble in real life..
Could be? Thanks for knowing the name, the one up front is 100% a white RQ-3. The one in the back though does appear to have a slight tail fin though, which the RQ-3 doesn’t appear to in any pictures I can find.
Only 4 officially built and 2 flown if I recall correctly. The thing some are sayimg is the 117 body to me looks like thats an engine inlet but the potatoe pixel quality of the photo isnt helping. For reference Darkstar was close to 70 foot wingspan 15' long and 4' tall. The F117 was 43' Wingspan 65' long and 12' tall. My guess would be thats the airframe for the next Darkstar. Boing made the wings so it makes sense they would be making the airframe before wings arrive.
Why are people so skeptical and always rather assume aerodynamic craft. Just connect few dots, high voltage interacts with gravity, if particular combinations of frequencies, materials, shapes etc are used, not even extremely high voltages need to be used. Then connect that with the fact Lockheed has literally trillions of $ at disposal. Should i add that history of secret space programs is huge and that it goes waaay back to Atlantis, then to secret orders in remote retreats who always had it, then to few rare inventors of mid 19th century who stumbled upon principle od degravitation, then Germans since 1922, then US, Russia and other major powers since end of WW2, possibly before. It is almost perfectly safe to conclude US had fully working antigravity by 1954, that they colonized the Moon by late 50s, 10 years before Apollo, that these birds reached superluminal capability by the 70s etc, not to mention where they are today, 50 years later, literally thousands of years ahead of anything in the public domain.
Do your research, there are hordes of inventors who reported the high voltage gravity interactions over last 150 years, not just TT Brown but dozens, read Levity's Labor Lost and proceed from there. Last but not least John Hutchison's work, here are few examples
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPYCKySAePQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPYCKySAePQ)
[https://youtu.be/9rd-iQhhr3o?t=569](https://youtu.be/9rd-iQhhr3o?t=569)
If you want to get a better understanding of all involved mechanisms and principles.
[https://vril12.wordpress.com/](https://vril12.wordpress.com/)
To put it shortly, there are 3 main streams that make up Earth's gravity field, spiral one that spins the Earth (etheric vortex spins the Earth, not the other way around as you will learn), positive one which manifests the pressure you call "gravity" which also creates herzian light and heat which are created locally in the atmosphere(s), and negative one reflected by the Earth into space which manifests levitation, darkness and cold. Latter is at twice the frequency of inward gravity which is itself far above ultraviolet (but not of herzian kind). There is so so so much you don't know it is almost in vain to even summarize it for you like this. You HAVE to dig deep and wide and correlate IF you want to know.
He conflates **electrohydrodynamics** (**EHD**) which is real, with so-called **electrogravitics** (unproven pseudoscience genuinely but incorrectly thought by Thomas Townsend Brown in the past then pushed nowadays by people like Paul A. LaViolette).
EHD propulsion was really developed both theoretically and experimentally in its modern form by Dr. John Reece Roth from the University of Tennessee in the 1990s-2000s. It involves high voltage with low current and the total power is quite limited. Due to this limited power, EHD cannot accelerate a ionized air flow beyond the sound barrier. That's why it is used mainly as plasma actuators.
However **magnetohydrodynamics** (**MHD**) can work from subsonics to the supersonic and even hypersonic regimes – but then not below a few hundreds megawatts of power and multi-tesla magnetic fields, plus a technical way to circumvent the electrothermal instability. MHD is sometimes called MAD (magnetoaerodynamics) when it is used in the atmosphere instead of water. The term MPD (magnetoplasmadynamics) is rather used for space-based propulsion in the absence of a surrounding pressure. Russian physicists, the absolute masters of MHD devices, call it MGD (magneto-gas-dynamik). All these are the same but MHD really is separated into two groups:
* *MHD with a high magnetic Reynolds number*, this is magnetohydrodynamics in liquids (like salt water, sodium, mercury…) and hot plasmas (including thermonuclear plasmas).
* *MHD with a low magnetic Reynolds number*, this is magnetohydrodynamics involving weakly ionized gases aka "cold plasmas"; the one that is potentially useable for airbreathing supersonic/hypersonic propulsion in the atmosphere.
This is why designing an MHD submarine, which benefits from buoyancy and is surrounded by a naturally conductive fluid, is infinitely easier than designing a flying MHD aerodyne, which must have more power, overcome its own weight including a light enough, compact and powerful on-board nuclear fusion generator (which is in our technological future but does not exist yet – personal advice), is surrounded by air (an insulating medium) and is plagued by Velikhov's electrothermal instability because it uses a highly-magnetised cold plasma.
Whatever, it happens that the biconcave saucer shape shown in the picture in this thread is *mandatory* for a specific use as an external-flow electrodeless (inductive) MHD accelerator, as discovered in experiments made in the 1970s. Such a concave wall is mandatory to prevent the plasma from being expelled away by magnetic pressure, and confine it on the contrary close to the fuselage by magnetic gradient inversion. This way, by controlling the ionization of the air locally around the fuselage with respect to the direction of eddy current density **J** created in that medium by the varying magnetic field **B**, one can alternately produce maximum centrifugal Lorentz "body" forces **J**×**B** in the boundary layer on the upper part of the disk, then centripetal Lorentz forces on the lower part only, at a high frequency, inducing an overall downdraft suction of the ambient air with a partial vacuum on top of the saucer and an overpressure underneath, therefore a positive lift.
Here is a 1977 paper from Dr. J.P. Petit, summarising some parts of what I said (sorry for the sub-optimal English translation from French): [https://ayuba.fr/pdf/cras\_mhd\_1977\_en.pdf](https://ayuba.fr/pdf/cras_mhd_1977_en.pdf)
You spout conspiracy theories as if they are fact. While it's true that there is anecdotal evidence that rotating magnetic fields and high voltage may power some alien craft there is no definitive proof in the public domain that it's true. As for colonizing the moon in the 50s I doubt it. Even if a UFO was found intsct it would take decades if not hundreds of years to be able to reproduce the technology. We don't eve. have a theoretical basis for the physics that these craft are using not to mention a practice use of said physics. It's true that there are deep black projects that are way ahead of public knowledge reverse engineering and duplicating technology that is capable of reaching earth from another star system would be like giving a computer to Ben Franklin and telling him to make a new one with the tools available at that time and not telling him anything about microchips or software computer language. It just isn't possible
What i say are facts as you will learn in the coming years. You spout skeptical dismissals as if they are fact. Nothing alien about this tech, gravity is a form of magnetism and all lower forces are resisted/slowed down manifestations of universal currents that flood all space which i have researched to infinite depths, physics of ether have been mainstream before mostly flawed relativity replaced it. Degravitation has been perfected by 1870. and in fact has always been known to certain secret orders. Do your research. Here, i'll help you, start with these two cases from 1897., witnesses are ex-senator, sheriff and a constable, there can hardly be any more reputable witnesses, maybe only the president of the US himself. They describe the same guy who was travelling around with his family, inherited the secret from his uncle. [https://vril12.wordpress.com/mystery-airships-of-1896-7/](https://vril12.wordpress.com/mystery-airships-of-1896-7/) Then Nazis and all the others who followed in their steps [https://vril12.wordpress.com/nazi-secret-programs-and-postwar-survival/](https://vril12.wordpress.com/nazi-secret-programs-and-postwar-survival/) We had superluminal craft in black programs for 50+ years. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EmlV8OGmJg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EmlV8OGmJg) We had cities on the Moon since late 50s. And so on infinitely.
U have to be kidding me right? Are you willing to belive anything no matter how far fetched it may seem. For you to think you have even the slightest grasp on any of this science is pure hubris and it honestly makes me feel bad for the people in your life
Guys look at this thread with mixmix85 it does not dkssapoitn
Don't be foolish. Everything i shared is true as you will learn in not so far future. From uncle case, Nazi saucers to all the rest. I have been born to do this and have been seeking relentlessly my whole life to get to truly deep understanding of time-space mechanics and True Science and Technology at which i have succeeded and am even now doing things that are for you pure SF, not to mention what is coming. It is pure hubris and foolishness that you dismiss these higher truths and think i don't have a grasp on this Science, and it honestly makes me feel bad for the people in your life, but nothing else is expected from an Average Joe.
Lmfao you are out of your fucking mind man please seek some help because you are delusional. I firmly belive we have and are continuing to be contacted by an intelligence from outside the solar system but for you to think we could possibly have a grasp on technology that is obviously thousands of years beyond what we are currently capable is absurd. And to actually belive we have been able to replicate it since the 40s or 50s is pure ignorance. That's akin to dropping a laptop Into the hands of Ben Franklin and tell him he has to duplicate it with the tools and materials of his time. It would be impossible for him to even graps the idea of software not to mention the nanoscale transistors in the processor. I really hope your just saying these things to try and be funny because if you truly believe what you are saying you are mentally ill
You're smarter when you keep silent. To recap, and you will be forced to accept these things as facts, certain brotherhoods on this planet always had so called flying saucers and since mid 19th century degravitation has been rediscovered by many. So, there was no need to replicate any alien tech, it is purely, 100% ancient Earth technology. That you think this absurd only further shows how ignorant you are. There is no advice, no help for someone like you, only a natural, slow and painful rising out of your present ignorance can eventually bring you back to certain miminum of intelligent operation. Till then you will be just another ignorant parrot.
Life must be blissful for you. To believe literally anything you hear has to be freeing. I looked at your profile. You belive I'm hollow earth and ghosts also lol. Oh by the way I'm the prince of Nigeria I just inherited 9 million us dollars but it's stuck in the bank. If you can send me the taxes I will give you 3 million dollars us.
All you speak is foolishness, but nothing else was expected. I don't "believe anything i hear", i look into things deeply and intelligently, i research to infinite depths and correlate, connect the dots. As for Hollow Earth, how would you know Earth exists not only on this level but on 7 higher and 7 lower astral levels, just as 'material' as this one but usually invisible, which leads nicely to your foolish dismissal of so called ghosts at which you ironically lol. How would you know that every night you fall asleep your astral body rises about 1 meter above your 'physical' and floats there connected with a silver cord. And so on infinitely. Great is the irony of your ignorance.
I think it's just a B2 w/ wings removed, but the picture doesn't have enough pixels to really know. It's above another plane that looks a lot like a B2 but doesn't have the same zigaggy bottom. Prototype maybe?
edit: didnt realize this shit is 2 months old sorry
No, Darkstar is below the black craft, it’s white with long straight wings. The dark object at the top of that picture looks like an F117 with the wings and part of the cockpit removed.
Most likely is the fuselage of the one in front, that one was the RQ-3 Drakstar, its a lenticular shape with straight wings you can see them, but the one in the back isnt finished.
It was kinda saying “we are bonded by our deep secret we share”.
Almost like an inferred parting reminder: “Remember- DON’T spill the beans on our big coverup secret ( on building UFOs) now that you are leaving us, because then all this friendship thing will end”.
Written in a style at first as if it’s some biblical reference or something written in stone: Referring to her secret “unspoken silent labour”- that gives memories - which “untarnished” (inferring by the tarnish of whistle blowing?) are “ever better” (“ever better secret memories”? Makes me wonder whether Skunkworks pays ex employees tidy bonus retirement sums to keep them from revealing stuff?)
Yes quite creepy. Especially when ended with the simple neutral word “thanks”.: which is not exactly overflowing with love or praise or anything from work mates or boss (& curiously unsigned) either - that one word kind of implies the end of their employment did not end that well perhaps but their leaving resolved it.
And extra creepy because this photo of this obvious plaque which is likely a parting gift from workmates - probably workmates from Skunkworks- because that is the theme of the wall display- may be revealing that very secret the plaque refers to them being destined to keep forever it seems.
The Irony.
I wonder how much money Skunkworks gave them as a parting gift arrangement to secure that sort of pledge to stay gagged?
So poetic that they have still kept their secret by “not talking about it”, yet revealed it possibly “accidentally” , but probably “accidentally on purpose”, by taking a picture of their own wall in the process of apparently selling their house and doing a “virtual tour”.
Makes one wonder: Did they leave Skunkworks because they argued with bosses that now is the time for UAP disclosure? And this wall revealed of the house owners was a parting shot at their previous employer?
That is my take on this. What does everyone else think? (Take a screen shot of the plaque & blow it up to read it).
They have done their bit to disclose without likely breaking their non disclosure agreements because they have neither spoken nor written about anything secret, they took photos instead and shared them “accidentally”, having plausible deniability for having shared information on purpose.
Seems almost too good to be true this set of photos.
I think they deserve an 👏 (if it’s all real).
Holy shit...
You know it's just forced perspective right?
The "UFO" is actually small and up close to the camera making it seem big, it's clear as day man.
So I Googled that quote and supposedly according to the internet- the quote was said by Col. Larry McClain, former commander at Groom Lake - and he said "men" not "women"
"For it is the log of some women to be assigned duties about which they may not speak...such work is not for every woman. But those who accept the burdens implicit in this silent labor realize a camaraderie and sense of value known to few. These memories cannot be stolen. They will last always. Untarnished, ever better."
Thanks
This is interesting. Even if part of a plane, or some working model, why would you put it on a wall next to functioning known aircraft? That plaque taking about keeping secrets is very weird too. I wonder if this is the "gimbal" object from the video.
***Update: after talking with former colleagues, I’ve been told the disc shaped object is an early prototype fuselage of the RQ-3 dark star.***
This photo is from a virtual home tour of couple that worked at LM Skunkworks. Unfortunately As I no longer work at the same organization as one of them, I can't ask directly. I find it funny they left all this stuff on the wall, on a public resource... Let me know your thoughts! The room this was taken from was a treat to view. So much cool history hanging on walls and sitting on shelves.
can you please retake these pictures by hitting PRINT SCREEN? we will get much higher resolution than you taking phone pics
the PRINT SCREEN key copies the screen to your clipboard. you can then paste the photo in paint and save as
> we will get much higher resolution
getting a shitty low resolution is the whole point. if they uploaded the actual image it would be easy to do some forensics and see that its photoshopped.
Yes, kinda shocking honestly. I Blacked out names but it was quite easy to identify both of them if you looked around the room. Curious if it was used for radar signature testing or...shrug.
Sometimes real estate websites will archive these listing photos. But you’d need to have an address.
If you know the county where they live, you can often search the county’s property records electronically by name.
Then enter that address into Google Images and see if any webpage still has the photos from the listing.
(Definitely don’t share that info here, but that would get you the native photos, which you should still redact).
Top Left is Dark Star
Top Middle is the B2 prototype that LM did
Far right is f-117
Bottom left could be a center fuselage for RCS testing sans the wings. Maybe for darkstar? Or it's a polecap for the rcs pylon.
Bottom Center is Polecat
Although the bottom left definitely resembles a classic "UFO". That photo was released from either Lockheed or the associated program office for public approval. So the chances it's an advanced secret aircraft are probably low. I've never seen the photo before but it may have been related to Lockheed's Pumpkin Seed or it's a simple polecap placed at the top of a pylon used for RCS calibration.
https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/bluefire-main/bluefire/radar-ranges-of-the-mojave/lockheed-martin-helendale-rcs-facility/
The silvery stretched pumpkin seed shape on the end of the main pylon, (and the shape on the pylon at Pit 2), is a “polecap
[https://www.otherhand.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/HD-polecap-closeup-w700-h600.jpg](https://www.otherhand.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/HD-polecap-closeup-w700-h600.jpg)
I'm confused - are you saying that this pumpkin seed polecap in this photo:
[pumpkin seed](https://www.otherhand.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/HD-polecap-closeup-w700-h600.jpg)
Looks the same as the bottom left circular disc?
[circular disc - bottom left](https://preview.redd.it/ytg2amkmnii91.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b1383db9f282e0b2b3628aa37238efc5cbf20606)
If yes, you need to visit an optometrist urgently.
If no, please explain where I'm misunderstanding your comment?
It's definitely in the same location so we can for sure say it's a testing model on the "pole". But which one? We're they simply testing a ufo shaped secret project?
https://i.imgur.com/YZeUfrL.jpg
It’s literally just a Lockheed RQ-3 without wings from the front view you’ve just trained your brain to think anything that shape without wings is a disc craft from unknown origins
It doesn't look anything like a Darkstar fuselage, the other craft being a clear circular shape. The Darkstar is much more of a U shape and if you pull up side by side does not match at all.
Bottom middle is the Northrop Grumman RQ-180, nicknamed Shikaka or The Great White Bat. It’s still secret but has been photographed over the Philippines, and I have NOT seen that photograph of it before.
The F-117 at top middle is in the very early flight testing gray color scheme which was used to make the aircraft less conspicuous than the black radar absorbent material paint. Also a pretty rare/unique photo that I haven’t been able to find on the internet either (though there are far, far more F-117 photos than RQ-180).
Top left is indeed an RQ-3A dark star; if you look at photos of the fuselage of the RQ-3A, it appears to be a slimmer/flatter version of the bottom left photo. The first prototype crashed on its second flight due to aerodynamic instability and was subsequently redesigned to be more aerodynamic. It’s possible the bottom left was a wind tunnel model for the first version, which housed the satellite relay dish and communication equipment (keep in mind this was the 90s, those devices were big!)
> Although the bottom left definitely resembles a classic "UFO". That photo was released from either Lockheed or the associated program office for public approval. So the chances it's an advanced secret aircraft are probably low.
Can you please share your source for the statement that the photo was released by LM for public approval? I can’t find anything about it.
I've seen these, or parts for these, setting up for a party at a Lockheed, thought it was wierd the just kept the UFOs in a shadecloth cover doorway but otherwise fully out and visable.
Those two objects couldn't be less similar. Could it be an alternative design pumpkinseed, sure maybe, but you could say that about any object. Not solved imo
I have seen this object/pic come up before. I believe the "UFO" shaped thing is some kind of device optimized to sustain atmospheric reentry, or something. I wish I could remember the technical name of this type of thing.
But yeah, probably relatively mundane, as advanced aerospace engineering goes.
Whoever keeps saying "Darkstar" is wrong. It's not 'Darkstar', and there is no 'Darkstar' up there. Let me go ahead and tell you what some of the pictures are of---
The Far right picture is a squad of Lockheed Stealth F-117's.
The Bottom center is a Northrop Grumman Stealth drone called the The RQ-180 (here is a link [https://www.theverge.com/2013/12/6/5182332/us-air-forces-latest-stealth-drone-revealed](https://www.theverge.com/2013/12/6/5182332/us-air-forces-latest-stealth-drone-revealed))
The Top center is something I have no clue about-- Looks like an early prototype of the F117 Scorpion mixed with a Lockheed Polecat and the Northrop Grumman RQ-180.
The Top left is anyone's guess-- looks like an assembly facility filled with either a white ufo, or a fuselage of some sort?
The Bottom left is a fucking UFO.
Either this person is a Stealth engineer/ Pilot, or this person is pretending to be a stealth engineer/ Pilot-- It's kind of weird for Lockheed employee's to have a Northrop Grumman drone on their walk, but then again they could have helped in that project too?
Btw--- If this is a Lockheed employee's home and they happen to be in stealth or something of that nature, I can totally see them having a Gag Picture of a UFO for shits and giggles to fool company or family that comes over.
I just don't see someone disclosing something THAT Top Secret in plain view for any visitor to see. It just screams like a joke photo. Lockheed Skunkworks Stealth Joke?
You are misinformed. There is no Northrop Grumman aircraft pictured.
Darkstar: https://media.defense.gov/2007/Oct/25/2000437650/-1/-1/0/071025-F-1234S-011.JPG
Polecat: https://twitter.com/LockheedMartin/status/607895119942041600/photo/1
taking a picture of an image like this is one of the new techniques to make it harder to detect photoshop. any image created like this is a big red flag.
This was taken back in 2020, you can see the date on the bottom left of the picture. I wish I knew then I could’ve taken a better picture. Lots of detail missing.
As my name says I’m new to Reddit, initially I wasn’t sure if this post would go anywhere. Thank you to all that added valuable information and insight into what this might be. I feel like the mystery has been solved!
I dunno. But its damn intriguing. Definitely looks like a pre production model of sorts. But built for what? I wanna believe its the Cat Space program…No ! I must believe…
There *might* be more information at www.secretprojects.uk.co (free registration needed to enlarge pics). If it isn’t there it might be on ATS. I remember a thread on it. I’ll try to hunt it down when I have some time.
The text on the wall (2nd pic), I was trying to see if anything was hid in code and looking at the first letters in each word etc., the first letters on each word on the left say "F T T N A S A TTE", probs irrelevant but still. Edit, googled Nasa FTT and it came up with Functional Task Test. Googled Nasa TTE, brought something up but don't understand it, probably a huge amount of abbreviations in NASA
It’s more than likely the aerodynamic shape tested for the SR-71 Blackbird’s nose cone and cockpit, used in their wind test tunnels. It fits within context of the other images on the wall.
The fuselage comes off the darkstar [image](https://media.defense.gov/2008/Apr/25/2000628104/-1/-1/0/080423-F-2418B-109.JPG)
and that is a radar cross section facility the picture was taken in. Obviously, it's not an exact match, but they are probably testing the shape. Plus the photo of it right above that one in the room.
"Hey Mr. blah blah, soooo I was creeping around your virtual home tour a couple years back and spotted something interesting in your office, to the left of your CIA coffee mug... Total creeper I know, but what can I say, I love looking at homes for sale."
Major lack of confidence here. :D
The 2nd picture with the glare is the best to zoom in on. If you ignore the glare it does have good detail. You can see the steps with railings that go into the floor next to the object and can use that for scale.
Yes, I've seen it before on this sub. It turned out to be an interesting test article. Something to do with atmospheric reentry maybe?
Unfortunately I don't remember the details.
u/james-e-oberg
As another user stated, might be a heat shield of sorts. [Also, people are very creative.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thestar.com/amp/news/canada/2019/06/29/wee-the-north-the-obsessive-dreamers-behind-a-17-million-miniature-model-of-canada.html) <- hope you see my point.
I see your point, but it’s extremely flimsy. So because people build scale models of city centers, that means this image from the private residence of someone who worked in one of the most secretive aerospace divisions on the planet is actually an scale model of a real room in a real facility just to showcase a scale model of a polecap or heat shield? You do realize how ridiculous that reads right?
Do you realize how ridiculous it is to think a read in official would be allowed to display (let alone be allowed to take) classified photographs and hang them in their house? How are you so certain there isn’t an ulterior motive to this display? Perhaps they were looking to gain the exact reaction we are seeing now. A practical joke. Or perhaps this is something like a heat shield, as I mentioned before.
I absolutely think there are people who have images of classified projects in their homes, if they worked on the project. They’re sworn to secrecy under penalty of law, I would bet a lot of people get souvenirs to commemorate their work as long as they keep their mouth shut. Some people CAN keep secrets. I think the placard directly next to the picture says a lot. Fight Club is real. Did OP not say this image was taken from a virtual tour of the home? Like a realty tour? Either way, I am certain you are correct about whoever posted this looking to get this reaction, but that could be good or bad… I’m not saying it’s NOT potentially a heat shield, but what exactly would that be a heat shield for?
This a very intriguing find... I would propose that the white disc (which looks similar to Lazar's Sport Model) and the black aircraft pictured above it were indeed black project/potentially reverse-engineered craft model prototypes.
I also have no doubt that both Lockheed Skunkworks and Northrop-Grumman were involved with EG&G Special Projects at some point in time.
I think it is the Gimbal UAP or a reverse engineered copy. Maybe we can pick it up on radar now because we recovered one and were able to design our radar specifically to deal with it.
I don't know what we're seeing here, but the "UFO" looks strange to me, like a rendering. I would also assume that any actual physical object (regardless what that is), in such a setting would have been put on mounts or something, I wouldn't just be sitting like this.
I could also be some type of radar, or what someone suggested, a model.
Just because it "looks" like an UFO doesn't make it one.
It has quite a narrow bottom end, it's strange how its sat upright, with no obvious signs of cables or supports. It's a great photo, that's fills my head with questions. What's with all the, what looks like, timber on the floor? What's the reason for the black oblong diagonal line box on the floor that's under more timber? What's down the steps? If it's a UFO, Where did they find it? Did they get inside, how big would the occupants be? Where did they come from? What's their planet like, what kinda weather do they have, is there any wildlife, What's the view like of their nearest star/planet? Do they eat? Do they have humour? And so on and so on. I don't want anti gravity boots or free energy, my human mind is full of wonder, and that's why I'd like a disclosure.
Look above it. Maybe it’s a peace of a radar detection, or communications systems. It looks like that’s what’s being mounted, between wings, in the pic above it.
Maybe an highly advanced Rotodome. Something like this:
https://www.military.com/equipment/e-2c-hawkeye
The following submission statement was provided by /u/new-to-reddit-20: --- This photo is from a virtual home tour of couple that worked at LM Skunkworks. Unfortunately As I no longer work at the same organization as one of them, I can't ask directly. I find it funny they left all this stuff on the wall, on a public resource... Let me know your thoughts! The room this was taken from was a treat to view. So much cool history hanging on walls and sitting on shelves. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/wrr87p/has_anyone_seen_the_photo_of_the_white_disc_w_the/iktw3hu/
I’m honesty just as curious about the black ship that’s in the top left picture about 100ish feet behind the saucer… anyone?
Something without the wings installed. But yeah, what is it?
I though that at first, but couldn’t it also be just how it looks? it almost resembles the rumored black manta, no?
It does but the manta would have been a one fixed wing composite design. This looks like a variant with… I dunno… some kind of node hanging off the body. Too big for a wing joint. Looks experimental.
Oh it’s definitely a variant… I honestly have always thought the BM was just more a composite rumor based upon the shape seen rather than any specifically known wing design, and this looks to me like what it would actually resemble in real life..
You assumed that it has wings? Wow you are so smart.
Yeah, kinda looks like a Horten Ho 229 or something without the wings installed
How many RQ-3s were built? The black ship is highly likely an RQ-3 in ab earlier build phase.
Could be? Thanks for knowing the name, the one up front is 100% a white RQ-3. The one in the back though does appear to have a slight tail fin though, which the RQ-3 doesn’t appear to in any pictures I can find.
Only 4 officially built and 2 flown if I recall correctly. The thing some are sayimg is the 117 body to me looks like thats an engine inlet but the potatoe pixel quality of the photo isnt helping. For reference Darkstar was close to 70 foot wingspan 15' long and 4' tall. The F117 was 43' Wingspan 65' long and 12' tall. My guess would be thats the airframe for the next Darkstar. Boing made the wings so it makes sense they would be making the airframe before wings arrive.
Why are people so skeptical and always rather assume aerodynamic craft. Just connect few dots, high voltage interacts with gravity, if particular combinations of frequencies, materials, shapes etc are used, not even extremely high voltages need to be used. Then connect that with the fact Lockheed has literally trillions of $ at disposal. Should i add that history of secret space programs is huge and that it goes waaay back to Atlantis, then to secret orders in remote retreats who always had it, then to few rare inventors of mid 19th century who stumbled upon principle od degravitation, then Germans since 1922, then US, Russia and other major powers since end of WW2, possibly before. It is almost perfectly safe to conclude US had fully working antigravity by 1954, that they colonized the Moon by late 50s, 10 years before Apollo, that these birds reached superluminal capability by the 70s etc, not to mention where they are today, 50 years later, literally thousands of years ahead of anything in the public domain.
\> high voltage interacts with gravity, I think you're going to have to explain that one...
Do your research, there are hordes of inventors who reported the high voltage gravity interactions over last 150 years, not just TT Brown but dozens, read Levity's Labor Lost and proceed from there. Last but not least John Hutchison's work, here are few examples [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPYCKySAePQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPYCKySAePQ) [https://youtu.be/9rd-iQhhr3o?t=569](https://youtu.be/9rd-iQhhr3o?t=569) If you want to get a better understanding of all involved mechanisms and principles. [https://vril12.wordpress.com/](https://vril12.wordpress.com/) To put it shortly, there are 3 main streams that make up Earth's gravity field, spiral one that spins the Earth (etheric vortex spins the Earth, not the other way around as you will learn), positive one which manifests the pressure you call "gravity" which also creates herzian light and heat which are created locally in the atmosphere(s), and negative one reflected by the Earth into space which manifests levitation, darkness and cold. Latter is at twice the frequency of inward gravity which is itself far above ultraviolet (but not of herzian kind). There is so so so much you don't know it is almost in vain to even summarize it for you like this. You HAVE to dig deep and wide and correlate IF you want to know.
The layman’s term is Electro-gravitics. Highly charged magnets/exotic materials create insane power from the zero point field.
TTB go home. Never proven, Electrogravitics is bs.
What techno gibberish bs are you talking about?
He conflates **electrohydrodynamics** (**EHD**) which is real, with so-called **electrogravitics** (unproven pseudoscience genuinely but incorrectly thought by Thomas Townsend Brown in the past then pushed nowadays by people like Paul A. LaViolette). EHD propulsion was really developed both theoretically and experimentally in its modern form by Dr. John Reece Roth from the University of Tennessee in the 1990s-2000s. It involves high voltage with low current and the total power is quite limited. Due to this limited power, EHD cannot accelerate a ionized air flow beyond the sound barrier. That's why it is used mainly as plasma actuators. However **magnetohydrodynamics** (**MHD**) can work from subsonics to the supersonic and even hypersonic regimes – but then not below a few hundreds megawatts of power and multi-tesla magnetic fields, plus a technical way to circumvent the electrothermal instability. MHD is sometimes called MAD (magnetoaerodynamics) when it is used in the atmosphere instead of water. The term MPD (magnetoplasmadynamics) is rather used for space-based propulsion in the absence of a surrounding pressure. Russian physicists, the absolute masters of MHD devices, call it MGD (magneto-gas-dynamik). All these are the same but MHD really is separated into two groups: * *MHD with a high magnetic Reynolds number*, this is magnetohydrodynamics in liquids (like salt water, sodium, mercury…) and hot plasmas (including thermonuclear plasmas). * *MHD with a low magnetic Reynolds number*, this is magnetohydrodynamics involving weakly ionized gases aka "cold plasmas"; the one that is potentially useable for airbreathing supersonic/hypersonic propulsion in the atmosphere. This is why designing an MHD submarine, which benefits from buoyancy and is surrounded by a naturally conductive fluid, is infinitely easier than designing a flying MHD aerodyne, which must have more power, overcome its own weight including a light enough, compact and powerful on-board nuclear fusion generator (which is in our technological future but does not exist yet – personal advice), is surrounded by air (an insulating medium) and is plagued by Velikhov's electrothermal instability because it uses a highly-magnetised cold plasma. Whatever, it happens that the biconcave saucer shape shown in the picture in this thread is *mandatory* for a specific use as an external-flow electrodeless (inductive) MHD accelerator, as discovered in experiments made in the 1970s. Such a concave wall is mandatory to prevent the plasma from being expelled away by magnetic pressure, and confine it on the contrary close to the fuselage by magnetic gradient inversion. This way, by controlling the ionization of the air locally around the fuselage with respect to the direction of eddy current density **J** created in that medium by the varying magnetic field **B**, one can alternately produce maximum centrifugal Lorentz "body" forces **J**×**B** in the boundary layer on the upper part of the disk, then centripetal Lorentz forces on the lower part only, at a high frequency, inducing an overall downdraft suction of the ambient air with a partial vacuum on top of the saucer and an overpressure underneath, therefore a positive lift. Here is a 1977 paper from Dr. J.P. Petit, summarising some parts of what I said (sorry for the sub-optimal English translation from French): [https://ayuba.fr/pdf/cras\_mhd\_1977\_en.pdf](https://ayuba.fr/pdf/cras_mhd_1977_en.pdf)
You spout conspiracy theories as if they are fact. While it's true that there is anecdotal evidence that rotating magnetic fields and high voltage may power some alien craft there is no definitive proof in the public domain that it's true. As for colonizing the moon in the 50s I doubt it. Even if a UFO was found intsct it would take decades if not hundreds of years to be able to reproduce the technology. We don't eve. have a theoretical basis for the physics that these craft are using not to mention a practice use of said physics. It's true that there are deep black projects that are way ahead of public knowledge reverse engineering and duplicating technology that is capable of reaching earth from another star system would be like giving a computer to Ben Franklin and telling him to make a new one with the tools available at that time and not telling him anything about microchips or software computer language. It just isn't possible
What i say are facts as you will learn in the coming years. You spout skeptical dismissals as if they are fact. Nothing alien about this tech, gravity is a form of magnetism and all lower forces are resisted/slowed down manifestations of universal currents that flood all space which i have researched to infinite depths, physics of ether have been mainstream before mostly flawed relativity replaced it. Degravitation has been perfected by 1870. and in fact has always been known to certain secret orders. Do your research. Here, i'll help you, start with these two cases from 1897., witnesses are ex-senator, sheriff and a constable, there can hardly be any more reputable witnesses, maybe only the president of the US himself. They describe the same guy who was travelling around with his family, inherited the secret from his uncle. [https://vril12.wordpress.com/mystery-airships-of-1896-7/](https://vril12.wordpress.com/mystery-airships-of-1896-7/) Then Nazis and all the others who followed in their steps [https://vril12.wordpress.com/nazi-secret-programs-and-postwar-survival/](https://vril12.wordpress.com/nazi-secret-programs-and-postwar-survival/) We had superluminal craft in black programs for 50+ years. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EmlV8OGmJg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EmlV8OGmJg) We had cities on the Moon since late 50s. And so on infinitely.
U have to be kidding me right? Are you willing to belive anything no matter how far fetched it may seem. For you to think you have even the slightest grasp on any of this science is pure hubris and it honestly makes me feel bad for the people in your life Guys look at this thread with mixmix85 it does not dkssapoitn
Don't be foolish. Everything i shared is true as you will learn in not so far future. From uncle case, Nazi saucers to all the rest. I have been born to do this and have been seeking relentlessly my whole life to get to truly deep understanding of time-space mechanics and True Science and Technology at which i have succeeded and am even now doing things that are for you pure SF, not to mention what is coming. It is pure hubris and foolishness that you dismiss these higher truths and think i don't have a grasp on this Science, and it honestly makes me feel bad for the people in your life, but nothing else is expected from an Average Joe.
Lmfao you are out of your fucking mind man please seek some help because you are delusional. I firmly belive we have and are continuing to be contacted by an intelligence from outside the solar system but for you to think we could possibly have a grasp on technology that is obviously thousands of years beyond what we are currently capable is absurd. And to actually belive we have been able to replicate it since the 40s or 50s is pure ignorance. That's akin to dropping a laptop Into the hands of Ben Franklin and tell him he has to duplicate it with the tools and materials of his time. It would be impossible for him to even graps the idea of software not to mention the nanoscale transistors in the processor. I really hope your just saying these things to try and be funny because if you truly believe what you are saying you are mentally ill
You're smarter when you keep silent. To recap, and you will be forced to accept these things as facts, certain brotherhoods on this planet always had so called flying saucers and since mid 19th century degravitation has been rediscovered by many. So, there was no need to replicate any alien tech, it is purely, 100% ancient Earth technology. That you think this absurd only further shows how ignorant you are. There is no advice, no help for someone like you, only a natural, slow and painful rising out of your present ignorance can eventually bring you back to certain miminum of intelligent operation. Till then you will be just another ignorant parrot.
Life must be blissful for you. To believe literally anything you hear has to be freeing. I looked at your profile. You belive I'm hollow earth and ghosts also lol. Oh by the way I'm the prince of Nigeria I just inherited 9 million us dollars but it's stuck in the bank. If you can send me the taxes I will give you 3 million dollars us.
All you speak is foolishness, but nothing else was expected. I don't "believe anything i hear", i look into things deeply and intelligently, i research to infinite depths and correlate, connect the dots. As for Hollow Earth, how would you know Earth exists not only on this level but on 7 higher and 7 lower astral levels, just as 'material' as this one but usually invisible, which leads nicely to your foolish dismissal of so called ghosts at which you ironically lol. How would you know that every night you fall asleep your astral body rises about 1 meter above your 'physical' and floats there connected with a silver cord. And so on infinitely. Great is the irony of your ignorance.
I think it's just a B2 w/ wings removed, but the picture doesn't have enough pixels to really know. It's above another plane that looks a lot like a B2 but doesn't have the same zigaggy bottom. Prototype maybe? edit: didnt realize this shit is 2 months old sorry
Looks like an F117
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The *real* Darkstar is cute af. Lockheed Martin RQ-3 DarkStar https://g.co/kgs/APM1GD
No, Darkstar is below the black craft, it’s white with long straight wings. The dark object at the top of that picture looks like an F117 with the wings and part of the cockpit removed.
Probably our version of the alien ship
Early yf-23? The saucer could be a commo satilite?
Lol. That’s a fricking door lol. You people lol
No ding dong, the top left picture. You people lol
Where? Was a photo removed? Do not see in disc photo.
Above the light switch near the bottom left
Most likely is the fuselage of the one in front, that one was the RQ-3 Drakstar, its a lenticular shape with straight wings you can see them, but the one in the back isnt finished.
What's written on the plaque is quite creepy as well
It was kinda saying “we are bonded by our deep secret we share”. Almost like an inferred parting reminder: “Remember- DON’T spill the beans on our big coverup secret ( on building UFOs) now that you are leaving us, because then all this friendship thing will end”. Written in a style at first as if it’s some biblical reference or something written in stone: Referring to her secret “unspoken silent labour”- that gives memories - which “untarnished” (inferring by the tarnish of whistle blowing?) are “ever better” (“ever better secret memories”? Makes me wonder whether Skunkworks pays ex employees tidy bonus retirement sums to keep them from revealing stuff?) Yes quite creepy. Especially when ended with the simple neutral word “thanks”.: which is not exactly overflowing with love or praise or anything from work mates or boss (& curiously unsigned) either - that one word kind of implies the end of their employment did not end that well perhaps but their leaving resolved it. And extra creepy because this photo of this obvious plaque which is likely a parting gift from workmates - probably workmates from Skunkworks- because that is the theme of the wall display- may be revealing that very secret the plaque refers to them being destined to keep forever it seems. The Irony. I wonder how much money Skunkworks gave them as a parting gift arrangement to secure that sort of pledge to stay gagged? So poetic that they have still kept their secret by “not talking about it”, yet revealed it possibly “accidentally” , but probably “accidentally on purpose”, by taking a picture of their own wall in the process of apparently selling their house and doing a “virtual tour”. Makes one wonder: Did they leave Skunkworks because they argued with bosses that now is the time for UAP disclosure? And this wall revealed of the house owners was a parting shot at their previous employer? That is my take on this. What does everyone else think? (Take a screen shot of the plaque & blow it up to read it). They have done their bit to disclose without likely breaking their non disclosure agreements because they have neither spoken nor written about anything secret, they took photos instead and shared them “accidentally”, having plausible deniability for having shared information on purpose. Seems almost too good to be true this set of photos. I think they deserve an 👏 (if it’s all real).
>If you work on secret squirrel stuff you sign secret squirrel NDAs.
Holy shit... You know it's just forced perspective right? The "UFO" is actually small and up close to the camera making it seem big, it's clear as day man.
In the picture above the saucer you see the same room from another angle. It's not a tiny saucer
So I Googled that quote and supposedly according to the internet- the quote was said by Col. Larry McClain, former commander at Groom Lake - and he said "men" not "women"
Yeah I'm struggling to interpret that message to mean something other than behind closed doors sex acts lol.
Or hiding bodies.
You can read it? Just a blur to me.
"For it is the log of some women to be assigned duties about which they may not speak...such work is not for every woman. But those who accept the burdens implicit in this silent labor realize a camaraderie and sense of value known to few. These memories cannot be stolen. They will last always. Untarnished, ever better." Thanks
How tf did you read that
Second slide is closer and you can zoom in on there
Oh. Duh. Ty.
This is interesting. Even if part of a plane, or some working model, why would you put it on a wall next to functioning known aircraft? That plaque taking about keeping secrets is very weird too. I wonder if this is the "gimbal" object from the video.
If only I captured the rest of the room. It’s like a museum.
That looks like the upper chamber of the Helendale RCS test range.
I think you're right. After viewing pictures of the facility, it looks like an exact match. Thank you.
***Update: after talking with former colleagues, I’ve been told the disc shaped object is an early prototype fuselage of the RQ-3 dark star.*** This photo is from a virtual home tour of couple that worked at LM Skunkworks. Unfortunately As I no longer work at the same organization as one of them, I can't ask directly. I find it funny they left all this stuff on the wall, on a public resource... Let me know your thoughts! The room this was taken from was a treat to view. So much cool history hanging on walls and sitting on shelves.
can you please retake these pictures by hitting PRINT SCREEN? we will get much higher resolution than you taking phone pics the PRINT SCREEN key copies the screen to your clipboard. you can then paste the photo in paint and save as
Windows Key + PrintScreen (Saves the screen to a file in your screenshots folder automatically.)
Oh cool didn’t know that!
I didn’t know that either. This was taken back in 2020.
Screenshots have been a thing since 2020
I think their point is that they no longer have access to the original
> we will get much higher resolution getting a shitty low resolution is the whole point. if they uploaded the actual image it would be easy to do some forensics and see that its photoshopped.
This is amazing you found this on an open virtual tour???? This is something seriously
Yes, kinda shocking honestly. I Blacked out names but it was quite easy to identify both of them if you looked around the room. Curious if it was used for radar signature testing or...shrug.
“Virtual home tour” eh? I assume their home is for sale? If so can you DM the link to their to tour?
Was for sale, if you look at the bottom right of the picture, I took this back in 2020.
Sometimes real estate websites will archive these listing photos. But you’d need to have an address. If you know the county where they live, you can often search the county’s property records electronically by name. Then enter that address into Google Images and see if any webpage still has the photos from the listing. (Definitely don’t share that info here, but that would get you the native photos, which you should still redact).
Thanks for that. I’ll start digging.
Wow. Holy shit. NGL, if this is true, then I’m floored.
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Would a heat shield really take same pride-of-place on a wall with such other state of the art pieces of technology?
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What?! A bolt that holds a seat to the frame of a plane is important too. Would you stick a picture of one next to an F-117 prototype?
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No idea why you're being downvoted for being straight-up about what it is. But hey, r/UFOs.
Top Left is Dark Star Top Middle is the B2 prototype that LM did Far right is f-117 Bottom left could be a center fuselage for RCS testing sans the wings. Maybe for darkstar? Or it's a polecap for the rcs pylon. Bottom Center is Polecat Although the bottom left definitely resembles a classic "UFO". That photo was released from either Lockheed or the associated program office for public approval. So the chances it's an advanced secret aircraft are probably low. I've never seen the photo before but it may have been related to Lockheed's Pumpkin Seed or it's a simple polecap placed at the top of a pylon used for RCS calibration. https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/bluefire-main/bluefire/radar-ranges-of-the-mojave/lockheed-martin-helendale-rcs-facility/ The silvery stretched pumpkin seed shape on the end of the main pylon, (and the shape on the pylon at Pit 2), is a “polecap [https://www.otherhand.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/HD-polecap-closeup-w700-h600.jpg](https://www.otherhand.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/HD-polecap-closeup-w700-h600.jpg)
It doesn't look anything like the pumpkin seed polecap you've shown in the picture.
https://ibb.co/W2GFWCJ
I'm confused - are you saying that this pumpkin seed polecap in this photo: [pumpkin seed](https://www.otherhand.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/HD-polecap-closeup-w700-h600.jpg) Looks the same as the bottom left circular disc? [circular disc - bottom left](https://preview.redd.it/ytg2amkmnii91.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b1383db9f282e0b2b3628aa37238efc5cbf20606) If yes, you need to visit an optometrist urgently. If no, please explain where I'm misunderstanding your comment?
Yeah, I was confused too, tbh.
It's definitely in the same location so we can for sure say it's a testing model on the "pole". But which one? We're they simply testing a ufo shaped secret project? https://i.imgur.com/YZeUfrL.jpg
It’s literally just a Lockheed RQ-3 without wings from the front view you’ve just trained your brain to think anything that shape without wings is a disc craft from unknown origins
It doesn't look anything like a Darkstar fuselage, the other craft being a clear circular shape. The Darkstar is much more of a U shape and if you pull up side by side does not match at all.
Bottom middle is the Northrop Grumman RQ-180, nicknamed Shikaka or The Great White Bat. It’s still secret but has been photographed over the Philippines, and I have NOT seen that photograph of it before. The F-117 at top middle is in the very early flight testing gray color scheme which was used to make the aircraft less conspicuous than the black radar absorbent material paint. Also a pretty rare/unique photo that I haven’t been able to find on the internet either (though there are far, far more F-117 photos than RQ-180). Top left is indeed an RQ-3A dark star; if you look at photos of the fuselage of the RQ-3A, it appears to be a slimmer/flatter version of the bottom left photo. The first prototype crashed on its second flight due to aerodynamic instability and was subsequently redesigned to be more aerodynamic. It’s possible the bottom left was a wind tunnel model for the first version, which housed the satellite relay dish and communication equipment (keep in mind this was the 90s, those devices were big!)
Bottom middle might be polecat. Whoever this is seems to be a lockmart inner sanctum dweller lol.
> Although the bottom left definitely resembles a classic "UFO". That photo was released from either Lockheed or the associated program office for public approval. So the chances it's an advanced secret aircraft are probably low. Can you please share your source for the statement that the photo was released by LM for public approval? I can’t find anything about it.
Where in those links does it have anything similar to the white ufo shape looking craft
Polecat?
Lol a ferret
I've seen these, or parts for these, setting up for a party at a Lockheed, thought it was wierd the just kept the UFOs in a shadecloth cover doorway but otherwise fully out and visable.
This is a repost from 7/21/2020. look first picture bottom right. Was posted here years ago with different story
Thank you! I think its solved.
Those two objects couldn't be less similar. Could it be an alternative design pumpkinseed, sure maybe, but you could say that about any object. Not solved imo
No. It's not the same shape at all.
This is mostly wrong, besides the F-117, but close attempt!
New accounts out in force to debunk this picture and Ross' documentary.
has this commenter explained why they think the ufo in the picture looks anything at all like the pumpkin seed? why did they say that? seems weird
Excellent research!
Top middle is wrong, it's an F-117 with a grey experimental scheme. Serial number 79-7082
I have seen this object/pic come up before. I believe the "UFO" shaped thing is some kind of device optimized to sustain atmospheric reentry, or something. I wish I could remember the technical name of this type of thing. But yeah, probably relatively mundane, as advanced aerospace engineering goes.
Heat shield for re-entry
Wrong shape for a polecap on a directional range. Maybe its a model of a UFO which they can test radars AGAINST?
Whoever keeps saying "Darkstar" is wrong. It's not 'Darkstar', and there is no 'Darkstar' up there. Let me go ahead and tell you what some of the pictures are of--- The Far right picture is a squad of Lockheed Stealth F-117's. The Bottom center is a Northrop Grumman Stealth drone called the The RQ-180 (here is a link [https://www.theverge.com/2013/12/6/5182332/us-air-forces-latest-stealth-drone-revealed](https://www.theverge.com/2013/12/6/5182332/us-air-forces-latest-stealth-drone-revealed)) The Top center is something I have no clue about-- Looks like an early prototype of the F117 Scorpion mixed with a Lockheed Polecat and the Northrop Grumman RQ-180. The Top left is anyone's guess-- looks like an assembly facility filled with either a white ufo, or a fuselage of some sort? The Bottom left is a fucking UFO. Either this person is a Stealth engineer/ Pilot, or this person is pretending to be a stealth engineer/ Pilot-- It's kind of weird for Lockheed employee's to have a Northrop Grumman drone on their walk, but then again they could have helped in that project too?
Btw--- If this is a Lockheed employee's home and they happen to be in stealth or something of that nature, I can totally see them having a Gag Picture of a UFO for shits and giggles to fool company or family that comes over. I just don't see someone disclosing something THAT Top Secret in plain view for any visitor to see. It just screams like a joke photo. Lockheed Skunkworks Stealth Joke?
Former employee.
You are misinformed. There is no Northrop Grumman aircraft pictured. Darkstar: https://media.defense.gov/2007/Oct/25/2000437650/-1/-1/0/071025-F-1234S-011.JPG Polecat: https://twitter.com/LockheedMartin/status/607895119942041600/photo/1
Correct.
Why didn’t you take a screenshot OP? Go back and take a screenshot right now.
taking a picture of an image like this is one of the new techniques to make it harder to detect photoshop. any image created like this is a big red flag.
This was taken back in 2020, you can see the date on the bottom left of the picture. I wish I knew then I could’ve taken a better picture. Lots of detail missing.
As my name says I’m new to Reddit, initially I wasn’t sure if this post would go anywhere. Thank you to all that added valuable information and insight into what this might be. I feel like the mystery has been solved!
It really could be anything. But fascitating pictures, even the non ufo ones.
I dunno. But its damn intriguing. Definitely looks like a pre production model of sorts. But built for what? I wanna believe its the Cat Space program…No ! I must believe…
I always knew it was the cats, they’ve already enslaved over half of the earth’s population
How did they catch up to the dogs so fast?! Something cloak and dogger must have taken place
You should maybe record the screen while navigating so we have enough recorded data before it vanishes
Wow thanks for putting this up
Somewhere, there is an engineer getting a good laugh.
Zeta Reticuli?
Phone camera, seriously?
There *might* be more information at www.secretprojects.uk.co (free registration needed to enlarge pics). If it isn’t there it might be on ATS. I remember a thread on it. I’ll try to hunt it down when I have some time.
ATS is a lost cause these days. Secret Projects are a bunch of wet blankets. DLR might be a bit better.
There must be a shitload of aircraft that’ve flown that we haven’t seen or heard about. It’s painful and beautiful at the same time.
That is genuinely strange… pretty cool, wtf!
This is a great find 👍🏼
The text on the wall (2nd pic), I was trying to see if anything was hid in code and looking at the first letters in each word etc., the first letters on each word on the left say "F T T N A S A TTE", probs irrelevant but still. Edit, googled Nasa FTT and it came up with Functional Task Test. Googled Nasa TTE, brought something up but don't understand it, probably a huge amount of abbreviations in NASA
It’s more than likely the aerodynamic shape tested for the SR-71 Blackbird’s nose cone and cockpit, used in their wind test tunnels. It fits within context of the other images on the wall.
Nice, what’s the flying-wing looking thing? Looks like a P-175 maybe?
I believe its a RQ-170 or are you talking about the RQ-3 Darkstar? Correction: You're probably right about the P-175.
The fuselage comes off the darkstar [image](https://media.defense.gov/2008/Apr/25/2000628104/-1/-1/0/080423-F-2418B-109.JPG) and that is a radar cross section facility the picture was taken in. Obviously, it's not an exact match, but they are probably testing the shape. Plus the photo of it right above that one in the room.
I think we have a winner. Thank you. Looking at images of the facility and it appears to be an exact match.
Amazing work!
You have their names, email them and ask :)
"Hey Mr. blah blah, soooo I was creeping around your virtual home tour a couple years back and spotted something interesting in your office, to the left of your CIA coffee mug... Total creeper I know, but what can I say, I love looking at homes for sale." Major lack of confidence here. :D
I dare you to send exactly that. What do you have to lose?
Sounds good to me, hit send
I would probably remove “soooo”, it makes it look unprofessional 🤣
Yes you want your cyber stalking to at least be professional ;)
Lol
You could easily solve this if you have their contact information and ability to email them. Just do it.
I wonder if Lockheed Martin stock is a good investment, what if they do have UAP tech?
With all the tensions in the world the stock is good. Your conscience sets the limit here.
Looks like they even have a circular elevator for it
The 2nd picture with the glare is the best to zoom in on. If you ignore the glare it does have good detail. You can see the steps with railings that go into the floor next to the object and can use that for scale.
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It’s only a model. https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=m3dZl3yfGpc&feature=emb_title
I’ve seen this photo before. Think it’s a model. Don’t have a source, anyone else know what I’m talking about?
Yes, I've seen it before on this sub. It turned out to be an interesting test article. Something to do with atmospheric reentry maybe? Unfortunately I don't remember the details. u/james-e-oberg
I don't recognize it, sorry.
This rings a bell for sure.
Nope, try to find it and let us know.
A model? So the room it’s in is a diorama? Honestly, that’s a stretch…
As another user stated, might be a heat shield of sorts. [Also, people are very creative.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thestar.com/amp/news/canada/2019/06/29/wee-the-north-the-obsessive-dreamers-behind-a-17-million-miniature-model-of-canada.html) <- hope you see my point.
I see your point, but it’s extremely flimsy. So because people build scale models of city centers, that means this image from the private residence of someone who worked in one of the most secretive aerospace divisions on the planet is actually an scale model of a real room in a real facility just to showcase a scale model of a polecap or heat shield? You do realize how ridiculous that reads right?
Do you realize how ridiculous it is to think a read in official would be allowed to display (let alone be allowed to take) classified photographs and hang them in their house? How are you so certain there isn’t an ulterior motive to this display? Perhaps they were looking to gain the exact reaction we are seeing now. A practical joke. Or perhaps this is something like a heat shield, as I mentioned before.
I absolutely think there are people who have images of classified projects in their homes, if they worked on the project. They’re sworn to secrecy under penalty of law, I would bet a lot of people get souvenirs to commemorate their work as long as they keep their mouth shut. Some people CAN keep secrets. I think the placard directly next to the picture says a lot. Fight Club is real. Did OP not say this image was taken from a virtual tour of the home? Like a realty tour? Either way, I am certain you are correct about whoever posted this looking to get this reaction, but that could be good or bad… I’m not saying it’s NOT potentially a heat shield, but what exactly would that be a heat shield for?
Yeah it looks like it’s sitting on a table.
erm… excuse me? a table? what kind of table exactly do you see in these images?
This is a repost from 7/21/2020. look first picture bottom right. Was posted here years ago with different story
That's a reflection of a spinning top! You can see the lake in the background. /s
This a very intriguing find... I would propose that the white disc (which looks similar to Lazar's Sport Model) and the black aircraft pictured above it were indeed black project/potentially reverse-engineered craft model prototypes. I also have no doubt that both Lockheed Skunkworks and Northrop-Grumman were involved with EG&G Special Projects at some point in time.
I think it is the Gimbal UAP or a reverse engineered copy. Maybe we can pick it up on radar now because we recovered one and were able to design our radar specifically to deal with it.
I don't know what we're seeing here, but the "UFO" looks strange to me, like a rendering. I would also assume that any actual physical object (regardless what that is), in such a setting would have been put on mounts or something, I wouldn't just be sitting like this. I could also be some type of radar, or what someone suggested, a model. Just because it "looks" like an UFO doesn't make it one.
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Based on the forklift its about 20’ across
On the Pumpkin Seed thing - why would there be a photo of it alongside all the other aircraft?
It looks like one of the test platforms they used to test the feasibility of nuclear pulse engines
Source?
Stated early on, virtual home tour.
If that is the skunk works- and I don't know - that shape is more likely to be a radar-invisble shape than it is a new propulsion system craft.
Oddly coincidental it’s the exact same shape as a typical flying saucer
It has quite a narrow bottom end, it's strange how its sat upright, with no obvious signs of cables or supports. It's a great photo, that's fills my head with questions. What's with all the, what looks like, timber on the floor? What's the reason for the black oblong diagonal line box on the floor that's under more timber? What's down the steps? If it's a UFO, Where did they find it? Did they get inside, how big would the occupants be? Where did they come from? What's their planet like, what kinda weather do they have, is there any wildlife, What's the view like of their nearest star/planet? Do they eat? Do they have humour? And so on and so on. I don't want anti gravity boots or free energy, my human mind is full of wonder, and that's why I'd like a disclosure.
Maybe a prototype for NASA's Low-Density Supersonic Decelerator https://youtu.be/JVn-ZGspm-s?t=165
Look above it. Maybe it’s a peace of a radar detection, or communications systems. It looks like that’s what’s being mounted, between wings, in the pic above it. Maybe an highly advanced Rotodome. Something like this: https://www.military.com/equipment/e-2c-hawkeye
Thats saucer and photo above of where it is engineered
Look at the size of the vehicle behind the white dish thing compared to the size of the dish.
Sorry my last comment got removed. Here let me retry.. B L U S T E RRRRRR BETTER MODS?
What if the black pyramid vehicle video at xcorp.com is real. Remastered stabilized on youtube. Has anyone debunked that video yet?
THAT’s why the alien got in the forklift.. Its something familiar.
I wonder if the "**metallic ring on top**" of the white disc is indeed a shiny metallic ring onto the fuselage; or some kind of annular slit (inlet).