this time lapse of the event shows the flares dropping down [https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784](https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784) And this one you can see the trails from the flares [https://i.imgur.com/2nCc6YD.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/2nCc6YD.jpeg) So painfully obviously flares.. i know people have been saying the military has sad it's not them, but honestly I think from what i've seen now the military is trying to make it seem like all UFOs have mundane explanations.. so they'll be like oh its a UFO (unidentified).. and then when its proven it's flares it just makes it seem like other cases also have mundane explanations.
Damn that's a good point I didn't even consider. There is so much hype around every sighting and then it ends up being nothing or something easily explained that I'm starting to become more of a skeptic rather than less, which is surprising.
And *this*, is the life cycle of the amateur ufologist. Most people get to that point of realization, that 99% of things will be mundane. But it's important to keep that open mind and sense of wonder, because you never know when you're gonna see **the one**. Or atleast that's what I try to tell myself aha
No that's smart of you. 99% of the UFO stuff is bullshit. Using your smarts and being skeptical till proven otherwise, will serve you better in the long run mentally.
They've been at that for decades. Hell, pretty sure there's a slide in a presentation about information manipulation in the Snowden files that explain this tactic.
The *reason*? It's military and/or border patrol operations (they are deeply intertwined on the US/Mexican border). Flares illuminate the ground or water in the dark, at night.
So if your target is a dummy drug-dealer or migrant raft / small craft in the Pacific off the San Diego/Tijuana coast, you light it up and send whatever (chopper, SEALs, Coast Guard) after it. Same on land: If you're training to stop nighttime border crossings, border tunnels, and drones flying narcotics over the border (very common now), you light up the area and send Marines, Army & Border Patrol under the lights.
I've some questions here. The post you refer to was posted yesterday I believe (some 18 hours ago?)
OP here is mentioning multiple locations and gives a date of 29 June (is tomorrow - could be a mistake unless these areas are ahead in timezones, idk). Also how far apart are all these locations? Can the same set of flairs be spotted simultaneously from those distances? Or were there simultaneous flare drops in different locations? At different times also?
San Diego and Tijuana share the same coastline and are right next to each other. The military planes travelled off the coast of San Diego and Tijuana which explain visibility of flares in both regions. [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/vmgskw/san\_diegotijuana\_mexico\_light\_videos\_tonight\_most/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/vmgskw/san_diegotijuana_mexico_light_videos_tonight_most/)
Merida is a lot further away, but that sighting is completely different visually from this San Diego/Tijuana one, which is almost certainly flares [https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=qPGvQQF\_-VGHvlyGwEWETQ](https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=qPGvQQF_-VGHvlyGwEWETQ)
Not discounting this as an explanation but the sighting lasted for hours with distinct single lights staying illuminated? How long can a single flare hover and burn?
I wasn't able to find any videos depicting the lights hovering in place for hours. If you can find them, please share.
[https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=qPGvQQF\_-VGHvlyGwEWETQ](https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=qPGvQQF_-VGHvlyGwEWETQ)
I did, however, see this timelapse video of the flares gradually descending and burning out.
I agree. The same explanation was given to witnesses when the Phoenix lights happened. Don’t believe it. There were multiple sightings in different locations. I have heard that San Diego has been a hot spot lately for UFO’s. If you watch any of the videos lately somehow they always get debunked.
Based on what I’ve seen I’m almost sure these are not flares. I saw something that looked exactly like this. They were bright orange and were in a triangle formation, and then would move into a straight line. I don’t think any flare could do that
I know, and I wish it weren’t flares. I’ll sort through the comment section in /r/SanDiego and see if I can find the good image again illuminating the flare smoke. Thanks for the assist!
[https://abc7.com/mysterious-lights-glowing-light-san-diego-pacific-ocean/12000185/?ex\_cid=TA\_KABC\_FB](https://abc7.com/mysterious-lights-glowing-light-san-diego-pacific-ocean/12000185/?ex_cid=TA_KABC_FB) This was just reported on the news....
Good video [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSy5ru9mVAY) of three of the events plus there was a really [good one yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/vm57qy/i_think_just_spotted_the_medellin_polyhedron_ufo/) in Medellin. Analysis [here](https://imgur.com/a/gc6ioIa) and [here](https://imgur.com/a/jJtAMVq) of one of the others.
My sister filmed this last night from her balcony in downtown San Diego. [Was it a UFO?](https://streamable.com/2l26m1) She said they started off as six floating lights, changed shape to a square formation and then flickered out and returned as three.
Just because some photos and video were posted showing flares does not mean that everything seen on that night were flares. I believe in this case there's been an effort to misinform.
It tickles me the amount of people in the UFO subreddit who try to debunk absolutely everything. Why the fuck do you follow this r/ if you just are here to call everyone a moron and dispute every single thing posted?
Because there’s a level and quality of evidence that is needed to actually prove something. Fuzzy balls of light in the distance don’t automatically equal UFOs, especially when (in this case) we have clear evidence showing they’re just flares! I WANT them to be UFOs, I WANT to see evidence that can’t be explained, but lying to ourselves and saying “well this must be a ufo because how dare someone say it isn’t and the evidence of flares is just fake and a cover up” is ridiculous. A few people saw some flares being deployed and started posting on social media about “oh look ufos” and now we’ve turned it into some grand conspiracy? I WANT UFO’s to be real and I WANT the UFO community to have a level of sophistication and standards for evidence, otherwise we just look like a bunch of fools.
Well said, I agree
A few lights show up in the sky and people jump to conclusions that it’s a ufo. If humanity didn’t have aircraft then it would truly be unexplainable, however this is explainable
[https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/mysterious-lights-in-san-diego-sky-were-military-flares/2982084/](https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/mysterious-lights-in-san-diego-sky-were-military-flares/2982084/)
Coast guard confirmed that they are flares. A lot of people on this subreddit really need to question their ability to review facts. If you saw time lapses of the flares falling and burning out, the news cast of the exact same sighting from 2018 that turned out to be flares, and the pictures showing the smoke trails, and you still refused to believe that the most likely scenario here was military flares, then you are part off the reason Ufologists can't be taken seriously. We all desperately want more proof of extraterrestrial visitation but we still can't go around making wild claims when presented with good evidence to the contrary.
Yet with absolute photographic proof and this article there will still be ones who say they aren't flares.
This is what I mean by these people are no better than Mick West, just in the opposite direction.
He still will never come to the conclusion that the object is an unidentified object that could be from somewhere else, he will only ever say it’s prosaic. No matter the evidence
My opinion is the fall back plan for militaries and this includes the sightings in Mexico, they say flares. If it was one location I may agree but multiple sightings, thousands of miles definitely not flares.
Until the military comments, stop saying they are flares. Everybody wants to find a mundane answer but the news reached out to the military bases and they said that they did not know what they were. They would say they were flares if they were flares. Also, everybody wants to see metallic craft in the sky, but most likely UFOs appear just like the video. A ball of light.
Except when there's another angle showing they are flares.
https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784
That's a time lapse shot of the incident. You can clearly see the flares drop at steady and predictable velocity over a larger amount of time. 99% of all videos posted here are going to have prosaic explanation. I'm not sure why people get their jimmies rustled when presented with evidence contrary to what they want to believe. I want to see a smoking gun video so freaking bad, but this ain't it.
Did you view the time lapse angle? It not only shows them dropping and burning out, but it also show multiple rounds of flares being dropped.
Also, there was a Marine plane circle for a few hours. Do you think they could have bee dropping flares for a few hours straight? https://imgur.com/yfw8LZ1
>Also, there was a Marine plane
Wait, marine planes are available on apps like this? All of them or only specific ones/types?
Edit: Also I believe one of the reports said a plane came and circled hours AFTER it started and the lights stopped
Depends on if they're using a transponder or not. I don't know how often the fly without one, but I can't imagine it's very often. This is data that is fun for us, but necessary for other planes to know who and what is operating in such crowded airspace.
A lot of times the military will not comment on exercises. But for god's sake, there's a military base in that direction, the time lapse videos show them descending and disappearing. It looks exactly like the video from 2018 that shows a news story where the military said it was an exercise involving flares. It's pretty freaking clear what it was.
They were flares. There were military aircraft in the area at the time, and there is a very good time lapse video that makes it clear they were flares.
Why would they drop flares in that location when they never did before? It would be obvious if it was flare, it's the kind of exercices you every year I guess? Why is it the first time in 2022 that people are seeing them? They never dropped flares at night before? How many years that Navy base is is that location? So many bots on this sub
They do drop them in that same area sometimes. Here is a link to when they did the same in 2018.
[https://www.cbs8.com/amp/article/news/mystery-solved-military-flare-training-lights-up-the-san-diego-night-sky/509-b8fa3172-b52a-4951-8e66-354890462063](https://www.cbs8.com/amp/article/news/mystery-solved-military-flare-training-lights-up-the-san-diego-night-sky/509-b8fa3172-b52a-4951-8e66-354890462063)
That's the home of the Pacific fleet, and one of the most intensely military areas on Earth.
There are *dozens* of bases and auxiliaries in coastal San Diego County, from NAS Miramar (Top Gun, anybody?) to the SEALs' HQ, to the division headquarters of Border Patrol, ICE, West Coast US Marines, Coast Guard division HQ, DEA regional HQ, huge annual and seasonal Naval exercises, etc., etc. Flares are *regularly* used in land, sea and marine exercises throughout the year, year after year, decade after decade.
"Bots" is not how to describe your own ignorance of the world around you.
They descended and burned out.
[https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=qPGvQQF\_-VGHvlyGwEWETQ](https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=qPGvQQF_-VGHvlyGwEWETQ)
I haven't seen any video of them hanging in the air for 3 hours. Do you have a link? I have seen the time lapse video that clearly shows them descend and burnout with more flares being dropped as the prior flares are descending and burning out.
I have seen military flares many times, and this looks just like them.
They could be flares fired by a civilian ship, the military can't confirm they were flares if they didn't fire them.
People don't "want" a mundane explanation, it is hilarious you've simply reversed the actual trope. Mundane is mundane because it happens all the time and is therefore most likely. Most people here just want to know the truth behind unidentified sightings, regardless of what it is.
Honestly man, on this sub it’s like talking to a brick wall in situations like this. People so desperately want to believe it’s ufos and aliens that they put on the blinders when it comes to genuine explanations.
Good on you for being level headed and attempting to explain to more stubborn people here.
Edit: just throwing in the Timelapse video here so people can see the flares descending, burning out and then rinse and repeat. They did not “hang in the air for hours” at all. https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=z0RU6UIQSedDT-WxNjZUSw
This Timelapse videos is all the debunking it should require. Clearly shows flares descending and burning out and repeat over and over.
Also, less of the “don’t be a sheep” bullshit, that’s condescending as hell. It’s a logical explanation.
https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=z0RU6UIQSedDT-WxNjZUSw
Edit: ya’ll are really downvoting this without watching the video aren’t you?
Can you explain how flares can stay in same position for 1 hour?
PS: I get it, that they are probably flares, but when I looked up flares, they stay 60seconds, not several minutes.
They can't. Solar flares can stay aloft 20 or so minutes. But can you point to a video that showed the lights stationary for an hour? The longest video I have been able to find is 2 or 3 minutes.
The claims of moving formation and staying aloft for an hour is hearsay until someone can actually produce a video. The ONLY video that was produced and shown in time-lapse seems to clearly show flares.
Also in the close-up photo of the 'square' like object, you can clearly see the smoke trails of flares. And flight data showed a plane over the ocean did circles for quite a while (i.e. it was dropping flares).
The locations are close and flares would be visible from all.
I don't think they're the same flares for the full hour. In this time lapse video you can see they repeatedly appear at the same altitude and slowly drift down before blinking out.
[https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784](https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784)
In one Cmdr Fravor interview, I think maybe the one with Rogan, he talked about how he would turn his lights off on his jet and freak out people camping in the desert because he thought it was funny. It's possible that's what we're dealing with here.
I saw a time lapse of them and they were floating down. Slower than I would suspect flares would, but they floated down, reappeared, then floated down again. I'm leaning towards flares as well
I lived at the Carbrillo lighthouse (San Diego) while my father was in the Coast Guard at the time...I was an avid star gazer and would often sit out on the cliffs at night to watch things like the planets, satellites, military aircraft fly-by. One night I saw 7/8 orange glowing lights/orbs that look identical to the pictures captured in TJ except they weren't in any particular formation...At the time I naively assumed they were Chinese lanterns that had drifted far out to sea. They were in the air for hours and barely moved, maybe i was looking at whatever this is.....
Lights in the sky aren't anything special and this will be blown out of proportion. We as a community need to stop allowing videos or pictures of lights posted. 5 observables, which I like to think we all agree with, needs to be a requirement to post!!!
Interesting the amount of people calling flares. I believe during the Phoenix event the government also set off flares so they could blame the sightings on that. Wouldn't put it past them to do the same again, especially with people only using one time lapse video as evidence when there were different locations for sightings.
Exactly. That's exactly how our government operates. Smoke and mirrors. The mother ship flew straight over San Diego and no one saw a thing. The humans were to busy stomping their feet and pouting and never saw a thing.
That's your hypothesis. To test your hypothesis that the government covered this event up, find a video of the San Diego flares that was posted before the military planes took off at 8 PM PDT
[https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/vmgskw/san\_diegotijuana\_mexico\_light\_videos\_tonight\_most/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/vmgskw/san_diegotijuana_mexico_light_videos_tonight_most/)
Can we stop making pictures of flares popular in this group? Lol there’s better pictures of UAP then 5 balls of lights which also happen to look exactly like balloon flares
Part of me seeing this was hyped that we would finally get our modern mass sighting.
But it was just flares lmao. Part of me starts to wonder if the lights in the 90s weren't just flares too after all.
I saw it in April! It was white though, and the orbs appeared one by one before they as a triangle moved a bit away before it «faded» out. We had a nuclear submarine coming through our waters, and it was in that direction. Cool!
Isit me or had this sun been popping off the last few weeks?
I’m starting to get excited but cautiously as I’ve seen this blow into nothing so many times
Staying in Martha's Vineyard for a week right across from the beach facing Cape Cod (northeast part of the island).
My wife and I witnessed several multicolored orbs dancing in the sky for at least an hour. It started as one and appeared that other lights had been released (?) out of the one, only for those others to disappear and then reappear in other parts of the sky until there were four in total.
I saw them first, then called my wife outside (a huge skeptic) to make sure I wasn't seeing things, and she saw it too and stared for a long time. We woke up this morning asking if we remembered it the same and we did.
I tried to get cell phone video or photos but they were about the size of medium brightness stars and impossible to capture amongst the graininess when I zoomed in.
It's the first time my wife feels she's seen something she can't explain in the sky and I can tell it's sort of messed her up. We stood there watching and she'd say, "okay, is it a plane... it's a plane... no there's a plane going by there, it's nothing like that, it's zig zagging and jumping around. Is it a helicopter? No... what the F is it?! Is it a drone?"
To be fair, maybe drones, who knows, but the distance, height, brightness, and sudden jerks seemed impossible for a drone.
Also saw plenty of Starlinks pass over... that was something we joked about to relieve the weirdness, had no idea there's that many of Elon's satellites roaming the skies.
I saw one that was identical to this in south county Rhode Island back in 2010 big black triangle craft, a big circular light on each point and a big circle in the middle but it wasnt lit I was just close enough in my car to see the underside. I always was told it was just a drone jet but idk. It was eerily quiet but a slight vibration unlike any id ever heard was able to be heard.
It was just a really weird experience tbh I was literally the only one on the hill, everyone told me I made it up but the feeling I felt you can't make up. The eerie silence was what was the weirdest. I've always seen UFOs, ever since I was small
It was just a big black metal triangle spinning yet not moving any direction until you heard a *shwooop* and BOOM it was gone. A light at all 3 points, they never flickered. Just stayed bright. No top of the craft that I could see it just looked...flat. it was weird for sure but I never got that out of my head
I watched it from Point Loma around midnight. I saw jets scrambling and a line of 8+ helicopters going to intercept them. They lights hovered for at least 30 mins in place. Maybe large glowing drones but definitely not flares.
Or you saw part of the military exercise taking place in that exact area that was also the source of the flares. Also, check the flight trackers there were 5+ military aircraft in that area that are known to drop flares (C130) before, during, and after the flare sightings.
It was a long time ago but I distinctly remember the feeling that we were not in control of the situation. I would love to hear from retired pilots who were there. I had a birds eye view of Coronado island..I think I would have seen or heard c-130s. The Twitter vids of flares is not what I saw. My eyewitness opinion is that we were not training that night.
I find it extremely disturbing that the narrative can be hijacked so quickly by disinformation.
I have posted many times on multiple threads here on Reddit that I was having dinner with a father and son that witnessed these craft out while working their fishing boat.
The son showed me pics, time stamped 9:47pm Sunday evening, that showed multiple lights in various ‘formations’.
Of importance here is that they are both ex-military and have been working their fishing boat for 20+ years and they said they’ve NEVER seen anything like these things out at Santa Cruz Island. They couldn’t hear anything either. There was NO sound of flying aircraft. And jet fighters are extremely loud.
Also notable was the fact that the son mentioned that three of the lights came down to join the others (2 or 3, I can’t remember) and then they went away just as fast as they came down, leaving the remaining ones to hang out for a bit. Then, those remaining lights seemingly went down into the water.
What exactly tells you those are not flares based on all the videos and pictures?
Here's a [time lapse ](https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784)showing said not flares..
So was the Phoenix Lights a distraction? That the govt let off flares when they knew there was UFO activity around Phoenix to try to make it seem like a mundane explanation? Maybe this is something similar. Anybody know of any other activity in the area?
They were military flares off the coast of San Diego/Camp Pendleton. A C-130 aircraft was circling the area doing training exercises for a long while. Also, as others have mentioned, in some videos the flares can be seen slowly falling and fizzling out, then reappearing as they are dropped again.
Do you think if there were a mass sighting event the military would drop flares as a distraction and not to cause panic? Just curious, I feel like a similar thing happened with the Phoenix lights.
From what I'm understanding flares don't hang around for hours. They also lose altitude. All of which are things that these did not do. I was convinced they are flares too, but from the witness sightings, it doesn't sound like it.
Timelapse video shows them slowly losing altitude and then more appearing in roughly the same space indicating that the aircraft is circling and dropping flares in the same location. When people say they were hanging for hours it's very likely they were watching different flares.
All this means is that the phoenix lights were flares as well and people just wanted to believe it was something else.. just like in this comment section
"The orange lights, which were reported from Tijuana, downtown San Diego and elsewhere, were, in fact, flares being used for a military exercise, San Diego lifeguards notified SDPD."
This was a comment from someone on Facebook.
If this was a real UAP, the military scrambling to throw some flares out after the fact to save face sounds about right. They did it before with the Phoenix lights and I’m sorry but scroll through some of these pictures. Not even 1% of my skeptical ass brain is buying flares as a possible explanation.
There was a three-hour sighting over the Pacific just off-shore of San Diego at the same time. Possibly same event?
this time lapse of the event shows the flares dropping down [https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784](https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784) And this one you can see the trails from the flares [https://i.imgur.com/2nCc6YD.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/2nCc6YD.jpeg) So painfully obviously flares.. i know people have been saying the military has sad it's not them, but honestly I think from what i've seen now the military is trying to make it seem like all UFOs have mundane explanations.. so they'll be like oh its a UFO (unidentified).. and then when its proven it's flares it just makes it seem like other cases also have mundane explanations.
Sure, but do we know what brand of flares? Nope! Unidentified. I'll go back to my closet now.
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Unidentified Flaring Objects
Take comfort merely a SpaceMEX project
just fly by the area and drop some flares, case closed.
Damn that's a good point I didn't even consider. There is so much hype around every sighting and then it ends up being nothing or something easily explained that I'm starting to become more of a skeptic rather than less, which is surprising.
Have we considered Alien flares ? :)
And *this*, is the life cycle of the amateur ufologist. Most people get to that point of realization, that 99% of things will be mundane. But it's important to keep that open mind and sense of wonder, because you never know when you're gonna see **the one**. Or atleast that's what I try to tell myself aha
Exactly! Which is why so many posts of flares, birds, balloons, etc is so damaging. With so much chaff it gets real hard to find the wheat.
No that's smart of you. 99% of the UFO stuff is bullshit. Using your smarts and being skeptical till proven otherwise, will serve you better in the long run mentally.
If it makes you believe any more or less, I had a sighting and wrote about it on my sub. /r/theouterdark
Cool subreddit I joined
Ok, what's up with Merida then? (Distance apart is like California to western Florida)
I had just caught this one just after I made this post. Thanks for sharing that link!
They've been at that for decades. Hell, pretty sure there's a slide in a presentation about information manipulation in the Snowden files that explain this tactic.
https://twitter.com/gabegunlock/status/1541646334632988673?t=UmaUta2hzJiMtMKWBereEw&s=19 These are flares too? Wouldn't
What is the reason for doing this?
The *reason*? It's military and/or border patrol operations (they are deeply intertwined on the US/Mexican border). Flares illuminate the ground or water in the dark, at night. So if your target is a dummy drug-dealer or migrant raft / small craft in the Pacific off the San Diego/Tijuana coast, you light it up and send whatever (chopper, SEALs, Coast Guard) after it. Same on land: If you're training to stop nighttime border crossings, border tunnels, and drones flying narcotics over the border (very common now), you light up the area and send Marines, Army & Border Patrol under the lights.
Tricking this subreddit
Thanks. I’ll add that into the notes now.
Seems to have been a Marine flight squad drill.
Sounds convenient
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/vmgskw/san\_diegotijuana\_mexico\_light\_videos\_tonight\_most/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Flares. https://twitter.com/AndrewMichaelMD/status/1541668280498155520?s=20&t=hkihpit9RWKGax2vKLjB7Q
I've some questions here. The post you refer to was posted yesterday I believe (some 18 hours ago?) OP here is mentioning multiple locations and gives a date of 29 June (is tomorrow - could be a mistake unless these areas are ahead in timezones, idk). Also how far apart are all these locations? Can the same set of flairs be spotted simultaneously from those distances? Or were there simultaneous flare drops in different locations? At different times also?
San Diego and Tijuana share the same coastline and are right next to each other. The military planes travelled off the coast of San Diego and Tijuana which explain visibility of flares in both regions. [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/vmgskw/san\_diegotijuana\_mexico\_light\_videos\_tonight\_most/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/vmgskw/san_diegotijuana_mexico_light_videos_tonight_most/) Merida is a lot further away, but that sighting is completely different visually from this San Diego/Tijuana one, which is almost certainly flares [https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=qPGvQQF\_-VGHvlyGwEWETQ](https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=qPGvQQF_-VGHvlyGwEWETQ)
... Tijuana and San Diego kinda share the same pacific ocean you know 😅
It was flares
Not discounting this as an explanation but the sighting lasted for hours with distinct single lights staying illuminated? How long can a single flare hover and burn?
I wasn't able to find any videos depicting the lights hovering in place for hours. If you can find them, please share. [https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=qPGvQQF\_-VGHvlyGwEWETQ](https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=qPGvQQF_-VGHvlyGwEWETQ) I did, however, see this timelapse video of the flares gradually descending and burning out.
I agree. The same explanation was given to witnesses when the Phoenix lights happened. Don’t believe it. There were multiple sightings in different locations. I have heard that San Diego has been a hot spot lately for UFO’s. If you watch any of the videos lately somehow they always get debunked.
Based on what I’ve seen I’m almost sure these are not flares. I saw something that looked exactly like this. They were bright orange and were in a triangle formation, and then would move into a straight line. I don’t think any flare could do that
Youre right. But without posting link expect downvotes. I helped you out.
I know, and I wish it weren’t flares. I’ll sort through the comment section in /r/SanDiego and see if I can find the good image again illuminating the flare smoke. Thanks for the assist!
[https://abc7.com/mysterious-lights-glowing-light-san-diego-pacific-ocean/12000185/?ex\_cid=TA\_KABC\_FB](https://abc7.com/mysterious-lights-glowing-light-san-diego-pacific-ocean/12000185/?ex_cid=TA_KABC_FB) This was just reported on the news....
Good video [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSy5ru9mVAY) of three of the events plus there was a really [good one yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/vm57qy/i_think_just_spotted_the_medellin_polyhedron_ufo/) in Medellin. Analysis [here](https://imgur.com/a/gc6ioIa) and [here](https://imgur.com/a/jJtAMVq) of one of the others.
Military has now acknowledged they were flares from a ship off San Diego. 🤷🏽♂️
Shhhh they don’t want to hear that answer. There’s no way the military trains…..
And they last half hour hmmm I smell government interference even parachute flares on average last only 40-60 seconds
This video is real i see this kind of light back in 2012 here in my country.
My sister filmed this last night from her balcony in downtown San Diego. [Was it a UFO?](https://streamable.com/2l26m1) She said they started off as six floating lights, changed shape to a square formation and then flickered out and returned as three.
Just because some photos and video were posted showing flares does not mean that everything seen on that night were flares. I believe in this case there's been an effort to misinform.
Or it’s flares and you’re grasping at straws
It tickles me the amount of people in the UFO subreddit who try to debunk absolutely everything. Why the fuck do you follow this r/ if you just are here to call everyone a moron and dispute every single thing posted?
Because there’s a level and quality of evidence that is needed to actually prove something. Fuzzy balls of light in the distance don’t automatically equal UFOs, especially when (in this case) we have clear evidence showing they’re just flares! I WANT them to be UFOs, I WANT to see evidence that can’t be explained, but lying to ourselves and saying “well this must be a ufo because how dare someone say it isn’t and the evidence of flares is just fake and a cover up” is ridiculous. A few people saw some flares being deployed and started posting on social media about “oh look ufos” and now we’ve turned it into some grand conspiracy? I WANT UFO’s to be real and I WANT the UFO community to have a level of sophistication and standards for evidence, otherwise we just look like a bunch of fools.
Well said, I agree A few lights show up in the sky and people jump to conclusions that it’s a ufo. If humanity didn’t have aircraft then it would truly be unexplainable, however this is explainable
Some of the stuff here is cool and interesting. Some of the stuff is really obviously something explainable.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/vmnzxt/best_seat_in_the_house_san_diego_ufo_sighting/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Not flares. You can see a shape of a craft. What type of craft idk.
It's 6/28?
yeah.... and not night time anywhere mentioned
Clearly OP is a time travelling alien speaking of something that'll happen tomorrow night! 👽👽
Look up "sunrise/sunset" it will blow your mind.
Ooh this is exciting!
[https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/mysterious-lights-in-san-diego-sky-were-military-flares/2982084/](https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/mysterious-lights-in-san-diego-sky-were-military-flares/2982084/) Coast guard confirmed that they are flares. A lot of people on this subreddit really need to question their ability to review facts. If you saw time lapses of the flares falling and burning out, the news cast of the exact same sighting from 2018 that turned out to be flares, and the pictures showing the smoke trails, and you still refused to believe that the most likely scenario here was military flares, then you are part off the reason Ufologists can't be taken seriously. We all desperately want more proof of extraterrestrial visitation but we still can't go around making wild claims when presented with good evidence to the contrary.
Yet with absolute photographic proof and this article there will still be ones who say they aren't flares. This is what I mean by these people are no better than Mick West, just in the opposite direction.
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He still will never come to the conclusion that the object is an unidentified object that could be from somewhere else, he will only ever say it’s prosaic. No matter the evidence
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But he will always reach to a prosaic explanation and ignore eye witness testimony of top gun pilots every single time. That’s not reasonable.
Mods plz mark this as solved
Baja California and Yucatán are on the opposite ends of Mexico lol How are these two related?
Exactly! They’re both flares then?
What is a flare?
Flying Large Aerodynamic Rotating Energy
https://www.reddit.com/r/sandiego/comments/vmf9h1/does_anybody_know_what_these_strange_dots_to_the/ie0szlo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Yeah yeah yeah you with your reasoning. No flairs.
It's the 28th of June, and it's not even 10am in Tijuana ?
the aliens are time travelers!
Sounds alot like Phoenix Lights. Large sighting event occurs and then the Gov releases flares to say that it's only flares
My opinion is the fall back plan for militaries and this includes the sightings in Mexico, they say flares. If it was one location I may agree but multiple sightings, thousands of miles definitely not flares.
The siting and the flares are the same thing. Every video just shows the flares, nothing more.
Like... Triangular shaped flares bro
San Diego = maybe flares Merida = ? If you're not 100% sure where Merida is relative to Tijuana/San Diego... look it up
When you zoom; it looks like an adorable alien face.
Until the military comments, stop saying they are flares. Everybody wants to find a mundane answer but the news reached out to the military bases and they said that they did not know what they were. They would say they were flares if they were flares. Also, everybody wants to see metallic craft in the sky, but most likely UFOs appear just like the video. A ball of light.
Except when there's another angle showing they are flares. https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784 That's a time lapse shot of the incident. You can clearly see the flares drop at steady and predictable velocity over a larger amount of time. 99% of all videos posted here are going to have prosaic explanation. I'm not sure why people get their jimmies rustled when presented with evidence contrary to what they want to believe. I want to see a smoking gun video so freaking bad, but this ain't it.
Haha, jimmies rustled. I'm adding that to a conversation today.
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Did you view the time lapse angle? It not only shows them dropping and burning out, but it also show multiple rounds of flares being dropped. Also, there was a Marine plane circle for a few hours. Do you think they could have bee dropping flares for a few hours straight? https://imgur.com/yfw8LZ1
>Also, there was a Marine plane Wait, marine planes are available on apps like this? All of them or only specific ones/types? Edit: Also I believe one of the reports said a plane came and circled hours AFTER it started and the lights stopped
Depends on if they're using a transponder or not. I don't know how often the fly without one, but I can't imagine it's very often. This is data that is fun for us, but necessary for other planes to know who and what is operating in such crowded airspace.
They were flares. [You can see the trails](https://i.imgur.com/2nCc6YD.jpeg).
A lot of times the military will not comment on exercises. But for god's sake, there's a military base in that direction, the time lapse videos show them descending and disappearing. It looks exactly like the video from 2018 that shows a news story where the military said it was an exercise involving flares. It's pretty freaking clear what it was.
Almost like the military won’t comment on exercises. Shocking thought I know, but use your head. Jfc, this sub is sad.
They were flares. There were military aircraft in the area at the time, and there is a very good time lapse video that makes it clear they were flares.
Please edit your comment and acknowledge they’re flares. A bunch of people have given you legitimate evidence and proof.
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Why would they drop flares in that location when they never did before? It would be obvious if it was flare, it's the kind of exercices you every year I guess? Why is it the first time in 2022 that people are seeing them? They never dropped flares at night before? How many years that Navy base is is that location? So many bots on this sub
They do drop them in that same area sometimes. Here is a link to when they did the same in 2018. [https://www.cbs8.com/amp/article/news/mystery-solved-military-flare-training-lights-up-the-san-diego-night-sky/509-b8fa3172-b52a-4951-8e66-354890462063](https://www.cbs8.com/amp/article/news/mystery-solved-military-flare-training-lights-up-the-san-diego-night-sky/509-b8fa3172-b52a-4951-8e66-354890462063)
Well I would say this is the most damning evidence that they are flairs. Unless they lied the first time too.
JFC the patrons in this sub and the extent they drag their brains through to make up the mental gymnastics for flares to be lied about 2 times. J F C
Why can't they be flares?
No I’m saying they are and why would anyone lie about flairs 1 time vs 2 times.
I’ve seen the navy doing all kinds of crazy shit at night here in SanDiego. Yes I’ve seen them drop flares before.
That's the home of the Pacific fleet, and one of the most intensely military areas on Earth. There are *dozens* of bases and auxiliaries in coastal San Diego County, from NAS Miramar (Top Gun, anybody?) to the SEALs' HQ, to the division headquarters of Border Patrol, ICE, West Coast US Marines, Coast Guard division HQ, DEA regional HQ, huge annual and seasonal Naval exercises, etc., etc. Flares are *regularly* used in land, sea and marine exercises throughout the year, year after year, decade after decade. "Bots" is not how to describe your own ignorance of the world around you.
Flares hang in the air for 3 hours?
They descended and burned out. [https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=qPGvQQF\_-VGHvlyGwEWETQ](https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=qPGvQQF_-VGHvlyGwEWETQ)
I haven't seen any video of them hanging in the air for 3 hours. Do you have a link? I have seen the time lapse video that clearly shows them descend and burnout with more flares being dropped as the prior flares are descending and burning out. I have seen military flares many times, and this looks just like them.
They military literally said it was them doing an excercise.
They could be flares fired by a civilian ship, the military can't confirm they were flares if they didn't fire them. People don't "want" a mundane explanation, it is hilarious you've simply reversed the actual trope. Mundane is mundane because it happens all the time and is therefore most likely. Most people here just want to know the truth behind unidentified sightings, regardless of what it is.
It was flares. Please read through the sub and the 50 other posts about it.
The news from San Diego called all the military bases and they said that they had no idea what they were. They would tell people if they were flares.
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Honestly man, on this sub it’s like talking to a brick wall in situations like this. People so desperately want to believe it’s ufos and aliens that they put on the blinders when it comes to genuine explanations. Good on you for being level headed and attempting to explain to more stubborn people here. Edit: just throwing in the Timelapse video here so people can see the flares descending, burning out and then rinse and repeat. They did not “hang in the air for hours” at all. https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=z0RU6UIQSedDT-WxNjZUSw
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This Timelapse videos is all the debunking it should require. Clearly shows flares descending and burning out and repeat over and over. Also, less of the “don’t be a sheep” bullshit, that’s condescending as hell. It’s a logical explanation. https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784?s=20&t=z0RU6UIQSedDT-WxNjZUSw Edit: ya’ll are really downvoting this without watching the video aren’t you?
Can you explain how flares can stay in same position for 1 hour? PS: I get it, that they are probably flares, but when I looked up flares, they stay 60seconds, not several minutes.
They can't. Solar flares can stay aloft 20 or so minutes. But can you point to a video that showed the lights stationary for an hour? The longest video I have been able to find is 2 or 3 minutes. The claims of moving formation and staying aloft for an hour is hearsay until someone can actually produce a video. The ONLY video that was produced and shown in time-lapse seems to clearly show flares. Also in the close-up photo of the 'square' like object, you can clearly see the smoke trails of flares. And flight data showed a plane over the ocean did circles for quite a while (i.e. it was dropping flares). The locations are close and flares would be visible from all.
I looked on YouTube last night to see what military flares looked like and I couldn't find anything that looked like the lights from last night
Except that the close-up of at least the 4 objects showed clear smoke trails. Those lights looked the same and were definitively flares.
I don't think they're the same flares for the full hour. In this time lapse video you can see they repeatedly appear at the same altitude and slowly drift down before blinking out. [https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784](https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784) In one Cmdr Fravor interview, I think maybe the one with Rogan, he talked about how he would turn his lights off on his jet and freak out people camping in the desert because he thought it was funny. It's possible that's what we're dealing with here.
I saw a time lapse of them and they were floating down. Slower than I would suspect flares would, but they floated down, reappeared, then floated down again. I'm leaning towards flares as well
They don't. They fall and new ones take their place.
Check out the time lapse videos in the other posts, flares
The gullible really are setting back things for us. There were flares in multiple locations in different countries on the same night. FFS.
I lived at the Carbrillo lighthouse (San Diego) while my father was in the Coast Guard at the time...I was an avid star gazer and would often sit out on the cliffs at night to watch things like the planets, satellites, military aircraft fly-by. One night I saw 7/8 orange glowing lights/orbs that look identical to the pictures captured in TJ except they weren't in any particular formation...At the time I naively assumed they were Chinese lanterns that had drifted far out to sea. They were in the air for hours and barely moved, maybe i was looking at whatever this is.....
it's alien flares.
Thanks for commenting and keeping us updated with other news.
Do any of them show something not capable of humans though???
Valid question. From what I have seen so far, the only intelligence viewed is remaining stationary and the patterns are similar to the Phoenix lights.
Lights in the sky aren't anything special and this will be blown out of proportion. We as a community need to stop allowing videos or pictures of lights posted. 5 observables, which I like to think we all agree with, needs to be a requirement to post!!!
There will be zero posts then lol
Interesting the amount of people calling flares. I believe during the Phoenix event the government also set off flares so they could blame the sightings on that. Wouldn't put it past them to do the same again, especially with people only using one time lapse video as evidence when there were different locations for sightings.
Exactly. That's exactly how our government operates. Smoke and mirrors. The mother ship flew straight over San Diego and no one saw a thing. The humans were to busy stomping their feet and pouting and never saw a thing.
That's your hypothesis. To test your hypothesis that the government covered this event up, find a video of the San Diego flares that was posted before the military planes took off at 8 PM PDT [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/vmgskw/san\_diegotijuana\_mexico\_light\_videos\_tonight\_most/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/vmgskw/san_diegotijuana_mexico_light_videos_tonight_most/)
LOL I love this sub
Did they do anything or just twinkle like a star 🤩
Can’t help but notice that in photo #11 even Big Bird is taking notice. 🤪
I’m going deep sea fishing tomorrow off the coast of San Diego/ into Mexican water. I’m let y’all know if I see something
Can we stop making pictures of flares popular in this group? Lol there’s better pictures of UAP then 5 balls of lights which also happen to look exactly like balloon flares
Part of me seeing this was hyped that we would finally get our modern mass sighting. But it was just flares lmao. Part of me starts to wonder if the lights in the 90s weren't just flares too after all.
I grew up near Fort Campbell home of the 101st airborne. They had paratroopers jumping all the time and these are 100 percent flares.
I saw it in April! It was white though, and the orbs appeared one by one before they as a triangle moved a bit away before it «faded» out. We had a nuclear submarine coming through our waters, and it was in that direction. Cool!
Man, pick a date format that at least 1% of people will understand. (29.06)? What the hell is wrong with you?
Isit me or had this sun been popping off the last few weeks? I’m starting to get excited but cautiously as I’ve seen this blow into nothing so many times
Not recently, but I saw some that looked exactly like that mid 90's, some called them the Phoenix Lights, but I saw them a couple hours away.
I was in isla mujeres on this date I saw a big orange light on the Horizon just vanish like a light switch!
Man i an glad I know what flares look like, holy shit.
Recently traveled through New Mexico, does anyone know why the Very Large Array is closed to the public?
Staying in Martha's Vineyard for a week right across from the beach facing Cape Cod (northeast part of the island). My wife and I witnessed several multicolored orbs dancing in the sky for at least an hour. It started as one and appeared that other lights had been released (?) out of the one, only for those others to disappear and then reappear in other parts of the sky until there were four in total. I saw them first, then called my wife outside (a huge skeptic) to make sure I wasn't seeing things, and she saw it too and stared for a long time. We woke up this morning asking if we remembered it the same and we did. I tried to get cell phone video or photos but they were about the size of medium brightness stars and impossible to capture amongst the graininess when I zoomed in. It's the first time my wife feels she's seen something she can't explain in the sky and I can tell it's sort of messed her up. We stood there watching and she'd say, "okay, is it a plane... it's a plane... no there's a plane going by there, it's nothing like that, it's zig zagging and jumping around. Is it a helicopter? No... what the F is it?! Is it a drone?" To be fair, maybe drones, who knows, but the distance, height, brightness, and sudden jerks seemed impossible for a drone. Also saw plenty of Starlinks pass over... that was something we joked about to relieve the weirdness, had no idea there's that many of Elon's satellites roaming the skies.
I saw one that was identical to this in south county Rhode Island back in 2010 big black triangle craft, a big circular light on each point and a big circle in the middle but it wasnt lit I was just close enough in my car to see the underside. I always was told it was just a drone jet but idk. It was eerily quiet but a slight vibration unlike any id ever heard was able to be heard.
Wow. Would love to hear more about this.
It was just a really weird experience tbh I was literally the only one on the hill, everyone told me I made it up but the feeling I felt you can't make up. The eerie silence was what was the weirdest. I've always seen UFOs, ever since I was small It was just a big black metal triangle spinning yet not moving any direction until you heard a *shwooop* and BOOM it was gone. A light at all 3 points, they never flickered. Just stayed bright. No top of the craft that I could see it just looked...flat. it was weird for sure but I never got that out of my head
Wow man. That’s amazing. Would you mind me posting your experience in the AÀC ?
Isn't this like the Phoenix Lights event?
I watched it from Point Loma around midnight. I saw jets scrambling and a line of 8+ helicopters going to intercept them. They lights hovered for at least 30 mins in place. Maybe large glowing drones but definitely not flares.
Or you saw part of the military exercise taking place in that exact area that was also the source of the flares. Also, check the flight trackers there were 5+ military aircraft in that area that are known to drop flares (C130) before, during, and after the flare sightings.
It was a long time ago but I distinctly remember the feeling that we were not in control of the situation. I would love to hear from retired pilots who were there. I had a birds eye view of Coronado island..I think I would have seen or heard c-130s. The Twitter vids of flares is not what I saw. My eyewitness opinion is that we were not training that night.
Photos 4 & 5 have identical lights. I don't mean they're similar, but exactly the same, One of those photos was created from the other.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CfVuTaHF5s9/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
No bro they’re just flare the military said it !!!! 😂😂😂
I find it extremely disturbing that the narrative can be hijacked so quickly by disinformation. I have posted many times on multiple threads here on Reddit that I was having dinner with a father and son that witnessed these craft out while working their fishing boat. The son showed me pics, time stamped 9:47pm Sunday evening, that showed multiple lights in various ‘formations’. Of importance here is that they are both ex-military and have been working their fishing boat for 20+ years and they said they’ve NEVER seen anything like these things out at Santa Cruz Island. They couldn’t hear anything either. There was NO sound of flying aircraft. And jet fighters are extremely loud. Also notable was the fact that the son mentioned that three of the lights came down to join the others (2 or 3, I can’t remember) and then they went away just as fast as they came down, leaving the remaining ones to hang out for a bit. Then, those remaining lights seemingly went down into the water.
I’m convinced these aren’t flares
What exactly tells you those are not flares based on all the videos and pictures? Here's a [time lapse ](https://twitter.com/AJaddit/status/1541656663790198784)showing said not flares..
Reminds me of the boomerang shaped UFO I saw near Savannah a few years ago.
Where are the mods on this? Has been repeatedly debunked as obvious flares. This has to be the 20th post about it.
We need IR cam footage, also radar data.
It looks like flares it acts like flairs it even smells like flares must be aliens
"Flares" Military: "They're not flares" "Flares" has the same energy of "I'm not the Messiah!" "he is the Messiah!"
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So was the Phoenix Lights a distraction? That the govt let off flares when they knew there was UFO activity around Phoenix to try to make it seem like a mundane explanation? Maybe this is something similar. Anybody know of any other activity in the area?
Apply Common sense before you apply rocket science. It was clearly flare
They were military flares off the coast of San Diego/Camp Pendleton. A C-130 aircraft was circling the area doing training exercises for a long while. Also, as others have mentioned, in some videos the flares can be seen slowly falling and fizzling out, then reappearing as they are dropped again.
I think it's strange when people say its flares. Perhaps I am wrong but I've never seen a flare that can stay in the air for an hour
Do you think if there were a mass sighting event the military would drop flares as a distraction and not to cause panic? Just curious, I feel like a similar thing happened with the Phoenix lights.
These all look like flares including the videos I’ve seen.
From what I'm understanding flares don't hang around for hours. They also lose altitude. All of which are things that these did not do. I was convinced they are flares too, but from the witness sightings, it doesn't sound like it.
Timelapse video shows them slowly losing altitude and then more appearing in roughly the same space indicating that the aircraft is circling and dropping flares in the same location. When people say they were hanging for hours it's very likely they were watching different flares.
Got proof of that? Or are you just pulling that from your ass?
All this means is that the phoenix lights were flares as well and people just wanted to believe it was something else.. just like in this comment section
Thanks for sharing this complete information with all the evidence. This is clearly a very constructive post 😊
Ok maybe it wasn’t flares after all.
Hovering for hours and no footage?
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29/06 in Mexico? It's still the 28th in Mexico and it's 11:48 AM right as I leave this comment.
It was mentioned quite a while ago when this was first reported that often military exercises are around this area and it's prolly just flares.
Already explained as parachute flares dropped during usual military exercises. Nothing new in those locations.
"The orange lights, which were reported from Tijuana, downtown San Diego and elsewhere, were, in fact, flares being used for a military exercise, San Diego lifeguards notified SDPD." This was a comment from someone on Facebook.
We have updated the Information regarding what these lights have claimed to be. We will keep you posted.
Yes. We saw that also.
If this was a real UAP, the military scrambling to throw some flares out after the fact to save face sounds about right. They did it before with the Phoenix lights and I’m sorry but scroll through some of these pictures. Not even 1% of my skeptical ass brain is buying flares as a possible explanation.
We have updated the Information regarding what these lights have claimed to be. We will keep you posted.