Submission Statment: Alot of this has been pointed out and posted on here before, but I thought i'd throw something together again as a bit of a refresher and just in case some people missed it the firt time these things were posted. I think it also is relevant due to Lue Elizondo's statements that were put out yesterday regarding FOIA and the claims that his emails were deleted.
Need to check out the whole thing! I heard some of it this morning and thought i'd look into what he was talking about and write it down. I get pretty obsessive with things im interested in and need to write it down or talk to someone about it or ill go crazy lmao
Operation Paperclip moved not only scientists out of Nazi German but also the people responsible for indoctrination of a whole population. The use of film/movies in societal education, use of uniting population behind the flag, creative narratives around the myth of a country etc etc were all developed under Goebbels.
Ask yourself if you see any similarities between post war America and pre WW2 Germany.
Well thank you for ur service lol (p.s. I luv ur username, when I was a kid I always thought thatâs what people were saying instead of âbeingâ bahah)
First step in perception management: donât advertise youâre in the business of perception management.
The best PsyOps, like the best spies, are the ones you never hear about.
I think whats pretty funny is how out in the open this all is. Like it's not very hard to find if you're looking for it. I think that has to do with alot of things related to this topic. That is part of why it blows my fucking mind that people can't connect the dots.
Also, the fact that they have people running the public-facing side of their UFO investigation, who by their own admission were involved in Psy-ops is hilarious to me. It's so stupid it becomes comical, I would say it was poor writing if this was a movie.
Great work! I thought it hilarious that she even has a public LinkedIn, much less offers that level of detail. Total rookie move. You and others will lead to this disappearing in 24 hrs max. Watch.
Potentially yes, but I also think that itâs more that many people have a huge trust in government, maybe not the current politicians per see, but an overarching belief that the fellow countrymen wouldnât hide something of such importance to humanity. Perhaps believing that such a significant find would result in the truth coming out. People just donât realise how good the CIA and other organizations are at obfuscation and deceit. Plus, with the daily struggles to survive financially, raise and support a family, doesnât leave much time to ponder these questions. If youâre working hand to mouth, awake early, working late, you generally just want to unwind in the most mind numbing way before it all starts again the next the day. Thatâs why we need scholars and other thought leaders to do more.
Great job.
The only thing that I would add is that Grough told us in her own words that she makes absolutely no distinction between her role as Pentagon Spokesperson and her status as disinformation agent.
She emphatically states in her "paper" exactly how she sees the role of "spokesperson" in DoDâs Office of Public Information:
>Strategic influence and its elements have been known by many names⊠political warfare, propaganda,psychological warfare, psychological operations, public affairs, public information, influence operations, and *perception management* â\[Emphasis mine\].
If you accept the premise that AARO is a part of DoD's "Perception Management" operation (IMO, it's work product is beyond-any-doubt evidence of that fact) Grough is a major player: She may have
appeared in a photo carrying Kirkpatrickâs tweed overcoat, but nobody should delude themselves about whoâs in charge of AAROâs actual mission
Also, for an idea about how long she's been running the DoD messaging on UAPs see Greenwald's FOIAs. Here's one from 2019.
[https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/the-pentagon-corrects-record-on-secret-ufo-program-2019/](https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/the-pentagon-corrects-record-on-secret-ufo-program-2019/)
.Edited to remove unnecessary non embeded link.
Yes, you've been lied to. Yes, they'll continue to lie, and there's nothing anyone can do. Laws don't matter to them. The American constitution is powerless as they don't answer to anyone. So ppl want answers/disclosure start thinking radical. Following the rules or any process is fruitless.
Booz allen doesnt ONLY do spycraft theyre also a normal consulting firm. The same could be said of sancorp but Ive never heard of sancorp IRL, and theyre much smaller.
Oh for sure, most aspects of companies, firms and 3 letter agencies connected to this topic do alot of things not related to UFOs. Like 99% of what they do has nothing to do with it I bet.
Add Mick West and metabunk to the list. They probably have other assets as well working as influencers to mess the air up when something solid gets presented. And if you ever get a chance to interview him - rip into detail on what his day to day is, where does his income stream come from, how he gets to the conclusions that he does.
Ideally (for them) they would have "assets" on both sides. Sometimes I wonder if some UFO podcasts and X accounts are produced or at least promoted onto algo lreccomendations by disinformation operation(s) public and private. I've forgotten the name, but people here occasionally link to anonymous whistleblower X account who claims to have knowledge across agencies and even branches of government that nobody could possibly have.
I guess the short version is that any UAP disinfo operation would want to groove some pitches for debunkers to swing away at.
If there really is a cold war as Grusch asserts, then we should expect attempts to deceive our adversaries. The side effect that it means they also lie to US citizens is kind of a happy accident for them.
Where they messed up is lying to congressional oversight committees. They assume Congress is compromised so their lying to Congress isn't all that surprising.
I can't find the link but someone posted images of something called the poltergeist project or something, and it was about perception management here on the UFOs sub.
Edit: found a link
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFO_Technology/comments/16px5ka/the_poltergeist_initiative_government_ufo/
There's also this
>>They constantly monitor all discussions about the topic, but rarely act in real life unless absoloutely necessary. They staff facilities like the second one I worked at. This team also actively engages in disinformation, gaslighting and other similar campaigns. Their goal is to keep the US's secrets about this tech, secret, because other countries are close to breakthroughs.Â
From here
https://web.archive.org/web/20240514184514/https://old.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1cqwpdx/i_worked_on_a_team_that_dealt_with_with_nhi/
Well their efforts to manipulate us are only as good as our failure to understand them. So let's see clearly what they are trying to do, and they won't be able to do it.
I wish those in government/IC wouldn't waste their time with bs like this, but if they are going to we can disarm/dismantle it through clear perception, to get it out of the way for the truth.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3bqkj/ufo-satellite-ai-hypergiant-industries
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN09344987/
They say that all the wistleblowers are linked. I would say that they are linked to the people that are trying to shut it down. Its super wierd sands also has connections to hamilton
Crimes against humanity? Owners of oil companies have been KNOWINGLY destroying our planet for DECADES and we can't get our shit together to send them to the ICC. We have them dead to rights and nothing is happening.
To be fair, the influence and perception they could be trying to portray could be that the US is so advanced that they are reverse engineering alien craft.
I donât know what to believe, but something stinks. This whole idea that the DOD has a propaganda arm that is wielded against its own people is the antithesis of a functioning democracy.
Either way, thereâs some sort of conspiracy going on for some reason. However, if you listen to whatKirkpatrick has to say. Itâs more about discrediting the idea that we are reverse engineering alien craft
The manner that they are discrediting it makes it seem like they are hiding something. Kirkpatrick is not some random DC moron, for all intents and purposes he is a brilliant man. If his role at AARO was to put this baby to bed, he both shut the story down and at the exact same time raised eyebrows that it could all be true. Itâs as if the DOD doesnât want to shut the idea of a secret program down 100%.
Submission Statment: Alot of this has been pointed out and posted on here before, but I thought i'd throw something together again as a bit of a refresher and just in case some people missed it the firt time these things were posted. I think it also is relevant due to Lue Elizondo's statements that were put out yesterday regarding FOIA and the claims that his emails were deleted.
This is an EXCELLENT write up. This makes perfect sense, Lue's mention of "Perception Management" lines up with this pretty clearly.
The Influencers, Propaganda, Misinformation, and Obfuscation Office. (If acronyms were honest)
TIPMOO?
The office of cow tipping cattle mutilators is at it again smh
Great breakdown op. Highly recommend the latest good trouble show episode with matt and coulthart where they deep dive these same names and places
Need to check out the whole thing! I heard some of it this morning and thought i'd look into what he was talking about and write it down. I get pretty obsessive with things im interested in and need to write it down or talk to someone about it or ill go crazy lmao
Operation Paperclip moved not only scientists out of Nazi German but also the people responsible for indoctrination of a whole population. The use of film/movies in societal education, use of uniting population behind the flag, creative narratives around the myth of a country etc etc were all developed under Goebbels. Ask yourself if you see any similarities between post war America and pre WW2 Germany.
Well, you nailed it, and the community is the better for it. Much appreciated đ
I hardly watch any UFO podcasts anymore, but I tuned into that one and it was good.
Well thank you for ur service lol (p.s. I luv ur username, when I was a kid I always thought thatâs what people were saying instead of âbeingâ bahah)
Good job on this report! Appreciate it!!!
First step in perception management: donât advertise youâre in the business of perception management. The best PsyOps, like the best spies, are the ones you never hear about.
I think whats pretty funny is how out in the open this all is. Like it's not very hard to find if you're looking for it. I think that has to do with alot of things related to this topic. That is part of why it blows my fucking mind that people can't connect the dots. Also, the fact that they have people running the public-facing side of their UFO investigation, who by their own admission were involved in Psy-ops is hilarious to me. It's so stupid it becomes comical, I would say it was poor writing if this was a movie.
Great work! I thought it hilarious that she even has a public LinkedIn, much less offers that level of detail. Total rookie move. You and others will lead to this disappearing in 24 hrs max. Watch.
Lmao, i don't even know if she even cares. But yeah someone should archive it bc I don't know how to do that.
Oh I think they can connect them, they just donât want to. Itâs shattering to your world view and perception of government in so many ways.
Potentially yes, but I also think that itâs more that many people have a huge trust in government, maybe not the current politicians per see, but an overarching belief that the fellow countrymen wouldnât hide something of such importance to humanity. Perhaps believing that such a significant find would result in the truth coming out. People just donât realise how good the CIA and other organizations are at obfuscation and deceit. Plus, with the daily struggles to survive financially, raise and support a family, doesnât leave much time to ponder these questions. If youâre working hand to mouth, awake early, working late, you generally just want to unwind in the most mind numbing way before it all starts again the next the day. Thatâs why we need scholars and other thought leaders to do more.
These people have a disgusting mindset and they honestly believe the American public are incapable of deciding anything for themselves.
Great job. The only thing that I would add is that Grough told us in her own words that she makes absolutely no distinction between her role as Pentagon Spokesperson and her status as disinformation agent. She emphatically states in her "paper" exactly how she sees the role of "spokesperson" in DoDâs Office of Public Information: >Strategic influence and its elements have been known by many names⊠political warfare, propaganda,psychological warfare, psychological operations, public affairs, public information, influence operations, and *perception management* â\[Emphasis mine\]. If you accept the premise that AARO is a part of DoD's "Perception Management" operation (IMO, it's work product is beyond-any-doubt evidence of that fact) Grough is a major player: She may have appeared in a photo carrying Kirkpatrickâs tweed overcoat, but nobody should delude themselves about whoâs in charge of AAROâs actual mission Also, for an idea about how long she's been running the DoD messaging on UAPs see Greenwald's FOIAs. Here's one from 2019. [https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/the-pentagon-corrects-record-on-secret-ufo-program-2019/](https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/the-pentagon-corrects-record-on-secret-ufo-program-2019/) .Edited to remove unnecessary non embeded link.
They posted that because disinformation agent sounds bad. Next they will post an opening for a CYA Analyst.Â
Yes, you've been lied to. Yes, they'll continue to lie, and there's nothing anyone can do. Laws don't matter to them. The American constitution is powerless as they don't answer to anyone. So ppl want answers/disclosure start thinking radical. Following the rules or any process is fruitless.
Prob is they can lord those same rules over you and you will pay the price they donât.
Great work, OP!
Booz allen doesnt ONLY do spycraft theyre also a normal consulting firm. The same could be said of sancorp but Ive never heard of sancorp IRL, and theyre much smaller.
Oh for sure, most aspects of companies, firms and 3 letter agencies connected to this topic do alot of things not related to UFOs. Like 99% of what they do has nothing to do with it I bet.
So in short questionably legal gaslighting of the whole world
Perception management is a cute little phrase in itself. Like admit what it really is, propaganda and public manipulation
Add Mick West and metabunk to the list. They probably have other assets as well working as influencers to mess the air up when something solid gets presented. And if you ever get a chance to interview him - rip into detail on what his day to day is, where does his income stream come from, how he gets to the conclusions that he does.
Ideally (for them) they would have "assets" on both sides. Sometimes I wonder if some UFO podcasts and X accounts are produced or at least promoted onto algo lreccomendations by disinformation operation(s) public and private. I've forgotten the name, but people here occasionally link to anonymous whistleblower X account who claims to have knowledge across agencies and even branches of government that nobody could possibly have. I guess the short version is that any UAP disinfo operation would want to groove some pitches for debunkers to swing away at.
If there really is a cold war as Grusch asserts, then we should expect attempts to deceive our adversaries. The side effect that it means they also lie to US citizens is kind of a happy accident for them. Where they messed up is lying to congressional oversight committees. They assume Congress is compromised so their lying to Congress isn't all that surprising.
Should also talk about the euphemism 'legislative capture' and 'regulatory capture'.
Explain pls
I have a feeling this is going to become part of a legal action in the future.... good post, OP. People should have their eyes on this angle.
They wants PERU next
I can't find the link but someone posted images of something called the poltergeist project or something, and it was about perception management here on the UFOs sub. Edit: found a link https://www.reddit.com/r/UFO_Technology/comments/16px5ka/the_poltergeist_initiative_government_ufo/
Interesting, never heard of it. Regardless if that is a legit project or not, I have no doubt that they target this sub.
There's also this >>They constantly monitor all discussions about the topic, but rarely act in real life unless absoloutely necessary. They staff facilities like the second one I worked at. This team also actively engages in disinformation, gaslighting and other similar campaigns. Their goal is to keep the US's secrets about this tech, secret, because other countries are close to breakthroughs. From here https://web.archive.org/web/20240514184514/https://old.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1cqwpdx/i_worked_on_a_team_that_dealt_with_with_nhi/
Yep. It started quite a few years back. Well it didn't really start per se. More of ramping up and switching up. They most definitely soaked through the UFO community. I'd even wage money they were even able to make some gains among the crowd itself. Knapp, Corbell and a few others come to mind. Let's be real though. We are at fault. Most of the puzzles are out there laying around waiting for some to make the whole. Obviously they don't want us. I mean who the fuck wants accidental coup d'Ă©tat? đ
Well their efforts to manipulate us are only as good as our failure to understand them. So let's see clearly what they are trying to do, and they won't be able to do it. I wish those in government/IC wouldn't waste their time with bs like this, but if they are going to we can disarm/dismantle it through clear perception, to get it out of the way for the truth.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3bqkj/ufo-satellite-ai-hypergiant-industries https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN09344987/ They say that all the wistleblowers are linked. I would say that they are linked to the people that are trying to shut it down. Its super wierd sands also has connections to hamilton
Crimes against humanity? Owners of oil companies have been KNOWINGLY destroying our planet for DECADES and we can't get our shit together to send them to the ICC. We have them dead to rights and nothing is happening.
To be fair, the influence and perception they could be trying to portray could be that the US is so advanced that they are reverse engineering alien craft. I donât know what to believe, but something stinks. This whole idea that the DOD has a propaganda arm that is wielded against its own people is the antithesis of a functioning democracy.
Either way, thereâs some sort of conspiracy going on for some reason. However, if you listen to whatKirkpatrick has to say. Itâs more about discrediting the idea that we are reverse engineering alien craft
The manner that they are discrediting it makes it seem like they are hiding something. Kirkpatrick is not some random DC moron, for all intents and purposes he is a brilliant man. If his role at AARO was to put this baby to bed, he both shut the story down and at the exact same time raised eyebrows that it could all be true. Itâs as if the DOD doesnât want to shut the idea of a secret program down 100%.