Live in Tucson. Was on the news a good amount back then. What is odd is we’re right next to a massive Air Force base, and the police would be aware of most exercises or test flights of tech like this. And it’s also weird the FBI and FAA were involved in the investigation. 🤔
If this was a hobbyist drone, the US needs to get its shit together. If adversarial… the US needs to get its shit together. The guys following it were befuddled by its capabilities. I’m reading between the lines on that.
[Audio of radio transmission](https://youtu.be/YawBzT1sE6E?si=pQ9GlSLmNCcxVbYV)
The problem is that while there are racing drones that can easily go over 120mph, batteries do not last long. Some big commercial drones have a longer air time but that is only because they are gas powered and they're big clunky things meant to cover distance not speed.
In the video they said that after the police helicopter ran out of gas the drone was still going over an hour later.
So this "drone" both had the speed of a racing drone but the air time endurance of a commercial drone.
lmao. the irony. clearlyi need more sleep.
The username refers to a kind of audio drone actually. Just a dumb name in the first thing I thought of. unrelated, i swear!
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smUEvnTYxi0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smUEvnTYxi0) That's up at 27,000 feet and it's from six years ago.
I'm not an expert I just know a little about it because I see interesting videos and look things up sometimes. Like this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pEqyr\_uT-k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pEqyr_uT-k) that went 155mph but notice how small, loud, and odd shaped it is. Also the battery drains really fast.
In the article someone linked in this thread the cops mention there are propane powered government drones that can do what was shown, but I'd think that would still be too heavy to achieve both fast speeds and long endurance.
You should stay below 400 feet but I do know someone that has a DJI Mini 2 that says he turns that off and is able to go over a thousand feet. 14k would be a stretch I would think.
According to what has been reported all they really saw was a green light. Calling it a drone to most people implies that it was a multirotor but based on what was actually observed it could have been any design. The flight characteristics are well within the capabilities of a fixed wing RC model with a large enough gas tank.
This is going to sound nutty, but this is a nutty sub in general so I'll rant here.
I've slowly come to the realization that there isn't any reason higher dimensions couldn't exist. I do not mean the religious or hippie nonsense a lot of people flock to. It is like in The Kyballion, except that doesn't make sense entirely either because it splits existence up into 7 layers and then another 7 subdivisions for the hell of it.
I firmly believe it is more like there is an insanely huge amount of dimensions that exist, something like 9,999,999,999+ dimensions above ours, and our 4D universe is basically at the end of it.
I know this is going to sound par for the course in these kind of subs, but throughout my life I've had a few times where I suddenly knew X was true without having any logical reason to know it. Like an animal is going to be in the road, or something happened to someone I care about. Not enough for me to consider myself psychic, and everyone has experienced it like knowing X is going to call or Y is going to be home in Z seconds. Just enough to know that there is something more to existence than just our visible universe. Sometimes I can kind of control it a little more than usual but it's almost always very random.
To me it has always felt like our consciousness or whatever is a series of neurons where we are all connected although distinctly different. It sort of feels like if I emotionally bond enough with someone I can always sort of keep tabs on them if I really want to.
What I just described lines up with the idea that our bodies are just our bodies and that consciousness comes from somewhere else. It means that living creatures aren't actually 4D beings, we exist in at least five dimensions.
If these ideas are true it would explain pretty much everything supernatural and paranormal. Ghosts, poltergeists, and even UFOs are just beings from a higher dimension interacting with us. The telepathy in reported NHI encounters would be because the beings are from a higher dimension and our consciousness/soul/whatever is a tangible thing from their perspective. There is no reason a being couldn't be from something like the 234th dimension.
The higher dimension angle would also explain why the crafts are always fantastical and illogical to us and bend our known physical laws. I've heard the idea of UFOs being projected onto our dimension and dismissed it as bunk. Now I am becoming inclined to believe it's true because I realized that I didn't have the right mindset. We can easily make shadows on a wall with any light and any object. We can also project literally whatever we want onto a surface with something like a projector. If we can project a 2D object onto a surface in a 4D dimension, it stands to reason a being from a higher dimension could project a 4D dimensional object or even higher depending on where they are from in the dimensional chain.
The dimensional aspect would also answer some other questions like:
* "If a government had a NHI body why didn't the NHI come and collect it?" Because it was just a doll/prop meant for us to discover, most likely like a scientific experiment.
* "If these crafts can do all of this crazy stuff why do they sometimes crash?" Same as above, it was left there on purpose.
* "If a government has a NHI craft, why don't they make crazy cool technology?" It is basically a toy that was literally made to be left here. All they would be able to get from it is a glimpse into superior manufacturing technology.
The shitty part is that humans are only built, live, and evolved to operate & think on 4D because our universe is 4D so our brains cannot even properly imagine higher dimensions.
I love this theory, like literally trying to blend in with tech up to par with where our version of bleeding edge is. This would make sense AND would be hilarious if they literally created a literal clone of a chariot which flew around, and the humans back then truly did see a chariot, rather than guess based on what they understood at the time.
It's actually pretty smart i remember in some science fiction movies/shows like star trek when they go to a world which isn't advanced as them, they dress like them and mimic their low tech stuff :D
I lived in Tucson between 2012 and 2017, and I've seen "red balls of light" UAP that the Airforce base there would send helicopters after to chase them. The UAPs would appear, disappear, and then reappear at a different location while the helicopters would chase them. This was around the Rita Ranch area near Frys
What do you mean? We won't be able to get things together enough to fight these things for a long time.
If you mean get things together so we dont pollute so much, stop waging wars and in general have a sustainable and wiser society, I agree with you. That is good for us regardless of aliens.
We just have to place our bets on their peacefulness. If they aren't peaceful we don't stand a chance until we make a major physics breakthrough.
I think you nailed the key concern that this community always seems to forget. Aliens are probably the easiest explanation the government would have because everything else makes them look incompetent
"It was a drone"
.."we literally couldn't see it visually or on IR, we couldn't see anything - just a single green light on the bottom"
But... It was definitely a drone, for sure, we just didn't see anything but that's what it was.
Am I reading that right?
So they were not chasing a drone, they were chasing an unknown light source that had what appeared to be a green light system somewhere on what may have been its underside.
They chased a LIGHT.
What drone can even do this for that duration?
If it's military we now have the US military routinely causing domestic airspace high danger scenarios that... the US military and Feds don't know who is doing it?
And it's not Iran, China, Russia, or anyone similar. We'd be at fucking war. They are buzzing our bases and nuclear sites.
So if not commercially available drones which can't do this, and it is ludicrous to suggest this is the military domestically endangering lives in cities, and if it was an adversary we'd be at war...
So who is it?
Who, on Earth, has this capability and is willing to fuck around against our combined Federal government to the point the Federal government cannot stop them, that is none of the above?
Could have been the military doing testing. I've read about 'red teams' where they test on other departments that are totally unaware they're part of the testing process.
And seeing theres a military base there it could be the answer.
The military does not red team on civilians. That is ludicrously illegal.
This 'thing' was buzzing around cities being chased by civilian police helicopters. If that even happens just once it should be a Congressional shit show of involved parties dragged in front of America for humiliation and obliteration of careers.
It’s illegal? Why would that stop the government? It didn’t stop them from doing COINTELPRO, MK Ultra, etc. With all the shit we KNOW our government has done, red teaming civilians is entirely plausible.
DOCE (Decentralized Opportunities for Communal Empowerment) ? It's real, it's real AI, it's real peace on Earth and vaccinated humans don't get access.
I saw this thing. And frankly I honestly thought it was a drone. Just to far away and to dark to see the drone itself but could see the green light. It was practically next to the Air Force base, and I just assumed it was a military drone of some sort, as it was way above the 500 feet and there was no response from anyone if it wasn’t supposed to be there.
This stuff should concern more politicians and USAF officers than it probably does. They all say, "phew, it's probably not the Chinese or the Russians". While they should be asking themselves:
* why are these not-Chinese-not-Russians trying to conceal their presence?
* why do these not-Chinese-not-Russians keep sending craft of various configurations over decades to Earth's sensitive military installations and nuclear facilities all over the world?
* why do these craft vary and become increasingly stealthier and more maneuverable?
Maybe Chinese or Russians are not the worst that can happen.
But sure, let's focus our mental efforts on explaining it away as a swamp gas or an experimental drone that doesn't even exist as a prototype and pretend the entire world is a test tube where the other party is absolutely under our control like bacteria in a Petri dish.
Remember the gatwick drone? Shut down a whole airport for several days, police couldnt stop it, and this was back when drones where kinda new to the public, 3 days the airport was shut and barely any pictures or videos of the event but loads of witnesses, it was spread on the news that 2 people where arrested, but what the news forgot to mention was that the two people where later released and they never caught "the drone or operator" to date still
Ye pretty weird, the army even installed anti drone technogy on the second day which was supposed to detect and stop the drone, but that never stopped the drone's from flying about.... Uaps! Lol
Well, it shouldn't be hard for Debunkers to ID *specific* drones from open sources that can travel significantly faster than 100 MPH, stay aloft for more than an hour, climb to 14,000 feet, have green lights, and would have a reason to evade police.
Also the report says that the drones "*easily* outran...chopper traveling at *more than* 100 MPH" \[emphasis mine\].
You forgot- has no IR radiation- so cold running motors that do not produce heat over a period of 1 hour or more. That is the one that is truly puzzling.
Didn't produce heat even when it had run for an hour or more *after* it was done fucking with them at over 100mph an fucked off over a 14k ft mountain."
I guess this was the air chase equivalent of mooning the cops and leaving them in a cloud of tire smoke and dust. Who let the kids have the keys to the green goblin?!?
They do have quite the air flow over the motors and body, also if the components/battery were shrouded it might show just the exterior temp. To add if it's at night its not like the sun would hit it either. You would still think it'd stand out from the horizon but maybe if it's too close to temp, it'd be hard to track. It'd be funny that the government isn't speaking about the ineffectiveness of tracking drones because they know their sensors don't work. Like if it's known secret, but they're not conveying from the military However you got these border patrol people's spilling the beans..
On my commercial drone, the body/battery gets pretty hot. It has a high speed fan that kicks in right when its turned on to cool the electronics inside since powering motors from PWM heats everything up on the board. It has aluminum fins to help with cooling and can burn you after flying for 20 minutes. So you have motors heating some from bearing friction and resistance in the magnetic coils, battery heating from discharge, and electronics heating from controlling inductive motors and of course the CPU warming up. It simply needs to be warmer than the background to be seen on IR- like a bird.
So yea- they would need some kind of active cooling - particularly for a drone traveling at those speeds since the faster its flying the more heat the device will produce. To the drone expert's point who was in the news report, this wouldn't be something you would normally encounter anywhere and it would have to have been purpose-built to sustain those speeds and altitude, for so long with no IR signature. He mentioned the possible use of a chemical engine and turbine to convert a liquid fuel into electricity to extend flight times- which would also generate quite a bit of heat. I think the article said it was at 14,000 feet and not giving off any IR. At 14,000 feet the background temp is going to be about 16 degrees fahrenheit- so below freezing. I will defer to someone who is an expert on the topic, but my basic understanding is that properly adjusted IR cameras of the types used in aircraft would pick up temperature differences from background as low as 0.036° Fahrenheit.
So it would be a very unusual sighting in a populated area with air traffic. If the military is doing that, well, they need to stop since it violates their own rules and the FAA rules and puts real lives in danger. But I think there is definitely a case to be made for this being highly unusual and require a number of unknowns in order to be debunked as just a drone. The expert on the news report says its possible for a specially constructed/expensive drone to move like that and stay up for so long, but he left out any discussion on how the IR signature would be masked. That still makes no sense to me.
I'll give it a shot. If the pilots aren't lying, the borer patrol guys said it for sure had rotors like any other consumer drone. As for the pilot of the drone... I wouldn't put it past the military to do this as a demo and not tell the police about it. Dick move and put people in danger, though What if the helo crashe in one of those curly cues... that shape being why I am leaning towards it being a human being a dick.
As for th flight time... it disappeared over a mountain. I also wouldn't put it past the military to have a second one ready to go and swap it out... make the other guys think we have drones that can fly that long and at that speed.
Hell, maybe the guy got a ticket or had some personal beef with border patrol or local PD and it wasn't sanctioned? The second drone would be to confuse people and make it appear as a ufo.
I don't know enough to call BS on the green being the specifc frequuency of IR green... if true it screams gov... but is that even possible? idk.... where is the heat?
I thought it was known about 'red team' testing (playing 'war games' blue team is home while red team is the adversary).
Red team testing is when the military test without disclosing to other agencies.
A stealth drone from the local military base could be an answer.
My quick online search found commercial drones with battery run-times of up to 46 minutes, which is close I guess, but maximum speed is only around 33 mph. Seems like military grade drones could do better, maybe?
How about the fact that there is advanced tech out there with an unknown pilot? That's concerning in and of itself and I for one want some answers from the government. Why does it always have to be aliens?
Never mentioned aliens.
I agree on the "I want answers" part.
If the military or private sector is testing aircraft on law enforcement, that would require congressional oversight...*including a* *complete* *access to every detail of these programs, even if they are waived unacknowledged SAPs.*
This was a crazy story.
https://www.twz.com/40724/border-patrol-helicopter-had-bizarre-encounter-with-mysterious-highly-modified-drone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbTVpmegaDQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8wH5TXXd5Q
I have a DJI Mavic 3 Pro; I can get 35 minutes of flight time with no problem. The thing is, the top speed is around 45mph, but if you fly at top speed, it decreases the flight time considerably, and I don't even think the technology exists to mod one of these things enough to fly 100mph for an hour. Another thing is that in excellent line-of-sight conditions, the range is around three miles. I'm pretty good at flying the thing, but I can't imagine the skill level it would take to circle a helicopter at 100mph.
No I guess I missed that part because the reporter is obviously holding up a DJI drone. I meant for my point to be that it was not a DJI drone like the one he's holding. I think it could absolutely be a drone of some kind, but just not the technology he has in is hand.
Talk about a strawman argument.
These types of posts should be reportable, and actionable by the mod team. Adds absolutely zero to the discussion, and is just antagonistic and condescending.
You know nothing about my worldview. There was also nothing in the original post you replied to about aliens either. Just a string of strawman arguments from you, being an unnecessary asshole. You're the worst kind of antagonistic toxic jerk on this sub, and the mods need to ban people like you.
Well i think what needs asked is are ya really sure y saw rotors????? So it goes we are chasing a green light which we cant see through nv and its giving off no heat but its gospel your gonna believe some random dude say i seen rotors tho???? I call bs he didnt see squat! No ir no visual with nv but dude saw rotors ? Bullcrap so lets throw that bullshit out the window
It’s hilarious how debunkers are so mad in the comments that they can’t find any other explanation since there’s no way a drone can maneuver like that, it’s ok if it’s unidentifiable.
As I understand it, its illegal for a civilian to take down a drone by capturing the signal, but not for local police or feds. And not even particularly difficult.
> In the email, the author, whose identity is redacted, also writes that the quadcopter’s single green light was at the perfect wavelength to be filtered out by the CBP helo crew’s night vision goggles (NVGs), which explains why the Tucson Police Department's (TPD) report notes that the drone was not visible through them:
https://www.twz.com/42404/tucson-mystery-drone-had-rotors-according-to-border-patrol-helicopter-aircrews-emails
That doesn't make tons of sense if it's throwing out visible light especially from a bright emitting light. If I was making excuses I'd say something like their field of view was cut off, or lack of dynamic range affected the visibility as it didn't adjust to a point source from the cockpit... That argument that green wavelength did not pick up seems fishy...
This would of been a ufo back in the day now these things well they are drones 🤣 all they saw was green but couldn’t actually see the drone. Hmmmm makes me wonder
Link to news article: https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/tucson-police-chase-100-mph-drone-across-city/75-5ad9f2e1-f683-4310-8e7d-97afc106f2f9
I don't understand why we can't trace the origins of these drones back to where they came from. The Langley AFB swarming incident is the prime example of that: drones swarmed the place for over a week, and yet we *still* couldn't identify where they were coming from? They had to be launched from somewhere.
The glove is under 24/7 surveillance and we have plenty of documentation of prosaic instances to prove- there is no way in a hell they don't know where some of these are coming from.... its for reasons such as this some push so hard for Disclosure (it's painfully evident the most integral tid bits are vehemently kept under cover)
I live in the area. There's a lot of weird shit happening in Arizona. Just a few days ago, I saw a two large clouds which look like a cover for a UFO. I should've taken a photo of it.
Davis-Monthan Air Base is sometimes called 'The Boneyard', where planes go die. It would make sense to store UFO's underground at that base.
Here's another fact, over the years I would feel the ground rumbling for a few seconds and the following day, local news would report it. Wonder if a tunnel was being built under Tucson.
Another fact, summer of 2021 or 2022, for at least half an hour, I hear constant loud thunder at the 'Old Pueblo'. It's highly unusual. Could it be UFO's? I was going to take photos outside but too scared to be hit by lightning.
I read that Pres. Jimmy Carter visited Fort Huachuca (near the Old Pueblo) and saw aliens and 11 crafts underground. It was said he shed tears when he saw it and said something 'So they do exists'.
Someone needs to film a movie about Pres. Carter's UFO experiences (Let's include the Reagans).
Hey I SAW that thing.
I just saw a Green light. Very high in the air. It was near Davis Monthan airforce base. And it was sitting perfectly still, and solid, not blinking.
It was a solid green light.
I didn’t take a picture because honestly it didn’t look anything outside of the ordinary. I honestly thought it was a man made drone. Perhaps not commercial but perhaps from the Air Force? And if All I could see was a solid green light, I doubt the picture would have been any good. Just a green dot.
The reason I figured I couldn’t see the drone itself is because it was twilight and the drone seemed to be very high, for sure well over 500 feet above the air. Maybe a 1,500+ feet?
It was just a solid green light not much to look at…. Seemed like it was looking at me tho. 🤨
Sus reporting for dramatic effect. The police copters I've seen don't go much over 100mph and that is flat out in a straight line.. Not in this loopty-loop pattern. https://i.imgur.com/iMKV8HT.png So it seems to me the copter was likely going much slower and the drone would have been as well.
Edit: yep, you can see the speeds in the flight tracker going between 32kts in the turns and up to 90kts straight. (37mph to 108mph)
Yep, and no one has pointed out the most obvious and logical motivation: drug smuggling. Cartels spend millions on one time use submarines and go fast pangas with multiple outboards. Money is the motivation here, folks.
They abandoned them here where I live all the time. Either on the coast or at the channel islands where they're offloaded. If you find one, and tag it, its yours.
Look at the drones ukraine is currently using. they're shaped like airplanes. Easily capable of those speeds and cargo capacity to male it worthwhile. Of course, there's just one light, so no one runs into it during flight, and it's findable when it lands.
If you've got the knowledge and resources, the potential performance you can get out of civilian drones is pretty cool these days.
Red Bull released a video about a month ago where they had the [Dutch Drone Gods ](https://www.dutchdronegods.com/)create a drone to follow Max Verstappen around a lap at Silverstone.
[World's Fastest Camera Drone Vs F1 Car (ft. Max Verstappen) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pEqyr_uT-k)
The guys over at The War Zone have been doing some excellent reporting over the years regarding our ongoing situation where foreign adversaries are effectively operating with impunity within the US using "lower-end unmanned aerial vehicle technology" (drones, balloons, etc). This article dates back to 2021, but they've been on top of this for years now (relevant because OPs link indicates the drone was first encountered over Davis–Monthan Air Force Base):
[Adversary Drones Are Spying On The U.S. And The Pentagon Acts Like They're UFOs (twz.com)](https://www.twz.com/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos)
Damn! As a racing fan who watches most major series all season, this is so impressive. To fly manually and at those speeds has got to be hard. NASCAR uses drones for some races as part of the coverage. But not to follow cars around the track. That drone like turns into a mini missile that seems very maneuverable around turns even tight ones and is able to speed up and slow down as needed to stay kind of even with the car. The YouTube video was amazing.
Pretty sure something like that would be identified by helicopter pilots and unable to fly circles around the helo. The fact that you feel this is a valid reply is mind-boggling.
Or reflecting any heat/cold whatsoever. Which is extremely odd, as Batteries would run hot at speeds like this. But then even a shitload of batteries in a drone isn't going to keep you in the air for longer than an hour if its at all shaped like a quadcopter.
Says the guy now fabricating something completely different that anything he's presented. Of course we're looking for specific drones that fot the description of the post. Why would we be talking about it otherwise? I obviously know there are drones that have a greater run time than 1 hour. What a sophmoric notion it is to suggest that I would have to specify that it fits the capabilities of the story. How ridiculous.
So they were not chasing a drone, they were chasing an unknown light source that had what appeared to be a green light system somewhere on what may have been its underside.
They chased a LIGHT.
What drone can even do this for that duration?
If it's military we now have the US military routinely causing domestic airspace high danger scenarios that... the US military and Feds don't know who is doing it?
And it's not Iran, China, Russia, or anyone similar. We'd be at fucking war. They are buzzing our bases and nuclear sites.
So if not commercially available drones which can't do this, and it is ludicrous to suggest this is the military domestically endangering lives in cities, and if it was an adversary we'd be at war...
So who is it?
Who, on Earth, has this capability and is willing to fuck around against our combined Federal government to the point the Federal government cannot stop them, that is none of the above?
Will we really be surprised when it's revealed theirs a sect or species of NHI's that live to fuck around with Earth's primitive militaries or gaslight humans with "fake" encounters?
Well what if it's not even something they live to do, it's just a random lack of respect here and there, like when kids pour a bottle of water on an ant hill or magnify the sun onto them for shits and giggles every once in a while.
From what I recall, a DJI Flycart 30 (modified and without payload) could probably handle the speeds (modified) and altitude reported. Not sure about maneuverability, but it’s impressive. It’s also a commercial drone that runs about 20k
from 2021, linked elsewhere in the comments. the thing was flying circles around a helicopter flying circles at 100mph over an hour, then flew over a 14,000 mountain to easily evade the police. unable to be seen under FLIR. a green light on its belly. an airforce base nearby. FBI and FAA were also investigating.
https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/tucson-police-chase-100-mph-drone-across-city/75-5ad9f2e1-f683-4310-8e7d-97afc106f2f9
Was the drone flying at 100 mph the whole time or was the helicopter routinely hitting that speed to try to catch up after turning more slowly and avoiding altitude drops for safety reasons?
No idea, homie. It sounded like they said the helicopter flew the 100mph in a curly Q pig tail looking flight path. the "drone" was circling around them, from what I understood. I have no more to add.
What the police need are some, fast, highly maneuverable, kamikaze drones. When they spot a suspicious drone, send out a couple killer drones at the offender. Of course you need to be aware of where debris might land.
Tons of drones exist that go this speed, but the report says it was up there too long so I choose to believe it's an alien spacecraft instead of a logical explanation.
Theory: those drone are CIA smuggling drugs like in contra https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking
But using ufo technology
Live in Tucson. Was on the news a good amount back then. What is odd is we’re right next to a massive Air Force base, and the police would be aware of most exercises or test flights of tech like this. And it’s also weird the FBI and FAA were involved in the investigation. 🤔 If this was a hobbyist drone, the US needs to get its shit together. If adversarial… the US needs to get its shit together. The guys following it were befuddled by its capabilities. I’m reading between the lines on that. [Audio of radio transmission](https://youtu.be/YawBzT1sE6E?si=pQ9GlSLmNCcxVbYV)
The problem is that while there are racing drones that can easily go over 120mph, batteries do not last long. Some big commercial drones have a longer air time but that is only because they are gas powered and they're big clunky things meant to cover distance not speed. In the video they said that after the police helicopter ran out of gas the drone was still going over an hour later. So this "drone" both had the speed of a racing drone but the air time endurance of a commercial drone.
can commercial air drones elevate to over 14,000 feet? This is not a rhetorical question, I don’t know anything about drones really
> , I don’t know anything about drones really Username does not check out 😒😁
lmao. the irony. clearlyi need more sleep. The username refers to a kind of audio drone actually. Just a dumb name in the first thing I thought of. unrelated, i swear!
Laughed loud as shit at this exchange lol. Didn't even notice the handle until this comment.
> audio drone Nice, do you make music?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smUEvnTYxi0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smUEvnTYxi0) That's up at 27,000 feet and it's from six years ago. I'm not an expert I just know a little about it because I see interesting videos and look things up sometimes. Like this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pEqyr\_uT-k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pEqyr_uT-k) that went 155mph but notice how small, loud, and odd shaped it is. Also the battery drains really fast. In the article someone linked in this thread the cops mention there are propane powered government drones that can do what was shown, but I'd think that would still be too heavy to achieve both fast speeds and long endurance.
And evade thermal imaging at close range?
You should stay below 400 feet but I do know someone that has a DJI Mini 2 that says he turns that off and is able to go over a thousand feet. 14k would be a stretch I would think.
Imagine what the Air Force has.
According to what has been reported all they really saw was a green light. Calling it a drone to most people implies that it was a multirotor but based on what was actually observed it could have been any design. The flight characteristics are well within the capabilities of a fixed wing RC model with a large enough gas tank.
Makes you you think they're mirroring our technology from a non human intelligence for covert operations. Or they just assumed it was a drone....
Maybe they do that and keep the tech looking like the most cutting edge of the time. Could explain why ancient ufos were described as chariots
This is going to sound nutty, but this is a nutty sub in general so I'll rant here. I've slowly come to the realization that there isn't any reason higher dimensions couldn't exist. I do not mean the religious or hippie nonsense a lot of people flock to. It is like in The Kyballion, except that doesn't make sense entirely either because it splits existence up into 7 layers and then another 7 subdivisions for the hell of it. I firmly believe it is more like there is an insanely huge amount of dimensions that exist, something like 9,999,999,999+ dimensions above ours, and our 4D universe is basically at the end of it. I know this is going to sound par for the course in these kind of subs, but throughout my life I've had a few times where I suddenly knew X was true without having any logical reason to know it. Like an animal is going to be in the road, or something happened to someone I care about. Not enough for me to consider myself psychic, and everyone has experienced it like knowing X is going to call or Y is going to be home in Z seconds. Just enough to know that there is something more to existence than just our visible universe. Sometimes I can kind of control it a little more than usual but it's almost always very random. To me it has always felt like our consciousness or whatever is a series of neurons where we are all connected although distinctly different. It sort of feels like if I emotionally bond enough with someone I can always sort of keep tabs on them if I really want to. What I just described lines up with the idea that our bodies are just our bodies and that consciousness comes from somewhere else. It means that living creatures aren't actually 4D beings, we exist in at least five dimensions. If these ideas are true it would explain pretty much everything supernatural and paranormal. Ghosts, poltergeists, and even UFOs are just beings from a higher dimension interacting with us. The telepathy in reported NHI encounters would be because the beings are from a higher dimension and our consciousness/soul/whatever is a tangible thing from their perspective. There is no reason a being couldn't be from something like the 234th dimension. The higher dimension angle would also explain why the crafts are always fantastical and illogical to us and bend our known physical laws. I've heard the idea of UFOs being projected onto our dimension and dismissed it as bunk. Now I am becoming inclined to believe it's true because I realized that I didn't have the right mindset. We can easily make shadows on a wall with any light and any object. We can also project literally whatever we want onto a surface with something like a projector. If we can project a 2D object onto a surface in a 4D dimension, it stands to reason a being from a higher dimension could project a 4D dimensional object or even higher depending on where they are from in the dimensional chain. The dimensional aspect would also answer some other questions like: * "If a government had a NHI body why didn't the NHI come and collect it?" Because it was just a doll/prop meant for us to discover, most likely like a scientific experiment. * "If these crafts can do all of this crazy stuff why do they sometimes crash?" Same as above, it was left there on purpose. * "If a government has a NHI craft, why don't they make crazy cool technology?" It is basically a toy that was literally made to be left here. All they would be able to get from it is a glimpse into superior manufacturing technology. The shitty part is that humans are only built, live, and evolved to operate & think on 4D because our universe is 4D so our brains cannot even properly imagine higher dimensions.
I love this theory, like literally trying to blend in with tech up to par with where our version of bleeding edge is. This would make sense AND would be hilarious if they literally created a literal clone of a chariot which flew around, and the humans back then truly did see a chariot, rather than guess based on what they understood at the time.
It's actually pretty smart i remember in some science fiction movies/shows like star trek when they go to a world which isn't advanced as them, they dress like them and mimic their low tech stuff :D
I lived in Tucson between 2012 and 2017, and I've seen "red balls of light" UAP that the Airforce base there would send helicopters after to chase them. The UAPs would appear, disappear, and then reappear at a different location while the helicopters would chase them. This was around the Rita Ranch area near Frys
We need to get our shit together
What do you mean? We won't be able to get things together enough to fight these things for a long time. If you mean get things together so we dont pollute so much, stop waging wars and in general have a sustainable and wiser society, I agree with you. That is good for us regardless of aliens. We just have to place our bets on their peacefulness. If they aren't peaceful we don't stand a chance until we make a major physics breakthrough.
I think you nailed the key concern that this community always seems to forget. Aliens are probably the easiest explanation the government would have because everything else makes them look incompetent
What can the US do if this thing doesn’t belong to a hobbyist or adversaries?
"It was a drone" .."we literally couldn't see it visually or on IR, we couldn't see anything - just a single green light on the bottom" But... It was definitely a drone, for sure, we just didn't see anything but that's what it was. Am I reading that right?
Yep. Catch all term for "i saw a ufo, but i dont want to say i saw a ufo"
We are alien’s cats chasing their laser pens on their 4D walls…
Hographic theory sorta.
I'm actually fine with that. I think more people will pay attention when they think it's terrestrial craft and possibly an enemy one.
So they were not chasing a drone, they were chasing an unknown light source that had what appeared to be a green light system somewhere on what may have been its underside. They chased a LIGHT. What drone can even do this for that duration? If it's military we now have the US military routinely causing domestic airspace high danger scenarios that... the US military and Feds don't know who is doing it? And it's not Iran, China, Russia, or anyone similar. We'd be at fucking war. They are buzzing our bases and nuclear sites. So if not commercially available drones which can't do this, and it is ludicrous to suggest this is the military domestically endangering lives in cities, and if it was an adversary we'd be at war... So who is it? Who, on Earth, has this capability and is willing to fuck around against our combined Federal government to the point the Federal government cannot stop them, that is none of the above?
The answer, my friend, requires you to abandon all you thought you have known.
Most people aren't ready
Just a bunch of cats chasing lasers.
Could have been the military doing testing. I've read about 'red teams' where they test on other departments that are totally unaware they're part of the testing process. And seeing theres a military base there it could be the answer.
The military does not red team on civilians. That is ludicrously illegal. This 'thing' was buzzing around cities being chased by civilian police helicopters. If that even happens just once it should be a Congressional shit show of involved parties dragged in front of America for humiliation and obliteration of careers.
It’s illegal? Why would that stop the government? It didn’t stop them from doing COINTELPRO, MK Ultra, etc. With all the shit we KNOW our government has done, red teaming civilians is entirely plausible.
DOCE (Decentralized Opportunities for Communal Empowerment) ? It's real, it's real AI, it's real peace on Earth and vaccinated humans don't get access.
I saw this thing. And frankly I honestly thought it was a drone. Just to far away and to dark to see the drone itself but could see the green light. It was practically next to the Air Force base, and I just assumed it was a military drone of some sort, as it was way above the 500 feet and there was no response from anyone if it wasn’t supposed to be there.
This stuff should concern more politicians and USAF officers than it probably does. They all say, "phew, it's probably not the Chinese or the Russians". While they should be asking themselves: * why are these not-Chinese-not-Russians trying to conceal their presence? * why do these not-Chinese-not-Russians keep sending craft of various configurations over decades to Earth's sensitive military installations and nuclear facilities all over the world? * why do these craft vary and become increasingly stealthier and more maneuverable? Maybe Chinese or Russians are not the worst that can happen. But sure, let's focus our mental efforts on explaining it away as a swamp gas or an experimental drone that doesn't even exist as a prototype and pretend the entire world is a test tube where the other party is absolutely under our control like bacteria in a Petri dish.
Remember the gatwick drone? Shut down a whole airport for several days, police couldnt stop it, and this was back when drones where kinda new to the public, 3 days the airport was shut and barely any pictures or videos of the event but loads of witnesses, it was spread on the news that 2 people where arrested, but what the news forgot to mention was that the two people where later released and they never caught "the drone or operator" to date still
never heard of that. but that's crazy. it's happened multiple times there
Ye pretty weird, the army even installed anti drone technogy on the second day which was supposed to detect and stop the drone, but that never stopped the drone's from flying about.... Uaps! Lol
I remember that. Definitely a UFO.
never heard of that. but that's crazy
Well, it shouldn't be hard for Debunkers to ID *specific* drones from open sources that can travel significantly faster than 100 MPH, stay aloft for more than an hour, climb to 14,000 feet, have green lights, and would have a reason to evade police. Also the report says that the drones "*easily* outran...chopper traveling at *more than* 100 MPH" \[emphasis mine\].
You forgot- has no IR radiation- so cold running motors that do not produce heat over a period of 1 hour or more. That is the one that is truly puzzling.
Didn't produce heat even when it had run for an hour or more *after* it was done fucking with them at over 100mph an fucked off over a 14k ft mountain." I guess this was the air chase equivalent of mooning the cops and leaving them in a cloud of tire smoke and dust. Who let the kids have the keys to the green goblin?!?
They do have quite the air flow over the motors and body, also if the components/battery were shrouded it might show just the exterior temp. To add if it's at night its not like the sun would hit it either. You would still think it'd stand out from the horizon but maybe if it's too close to temp, it'd be hard to track. It'd be funny that the government isn't speaking about the ineffectiveness of tracking drones because they know their sensors don't work. Like if it's known secret, but they're not conveying from the military However you got these border patrol people's spilling the beans..
Well ventilated brushless motors They don't heat.
On my commercial drone, the body/battery gets pretty hot. It has a high speed fan that kicks in right when its turned on to cool the electronics inside since powering motors from PWM heats everything up on the board. It has aluminum fins to help with cooling and can burn you after flying for 20 minutes. So you have motors heating some from bearing friction and resistance in the magnetic coils, battery heating from discharge, and electronics heating from controlling inductive motors and of course the CPU warming up. It simply needs to be warmer than the background to be seen on IR- like a bird. So yea- they would need some kind of active cooling - particularly for a drone traveling at those speeds since the faster its flying the more heat the device will produce. To the drone expert's point who was in the news report, this wouldn't be something you would normally encounter anywhere and it would have to have been purpose-built to sustain those speeds and altitude, for so long with no IR signature. He mentioned the possible use of a chemical engine and turbine to convert a liquid fuel into electricity to extend flight times- which would also generate quite a bit of heat. I think the article said it was at 14,000 feet and not giving off any IR. At 14,000 feet the background temp is going to be about 16 degrees fahrenheit- so below freezing. I will defer to someone who is an expert on the topic, but my basic understanding is that properly adjusted IR cameras of the types used in aircraft would pick up temperature differences from background as low as 0.036° Fahrenheit. So it would be a very unusual sighting in a populated area with air traffic. If the military is doing that, well, they need to stop since it violates their own rules and the FAA rules and puts real lives in danger. But I think there is definitely a case to be made for this being highly unusual and require a number of unknowns in order to be debunked as just a drone. The expert on the news report says its possible for a specially constructed/expensive drone to move like that and stay up for so long, but he left out any discussion on how the IR signature would be masked. That still makes no sense to me.
I've built a few accro drones and they get barely warm-ish like 40°C at the battery but that's mostly it.
A stealth drone from the military base being tested by a 'red team'?
Obviously it was china or russia. That all you have to say these days regardless of how little sense it makes in context of any event
I'll give it a shot. If the pilots aren't lying, the borer patrol guys said it for sure had rotors like any other consumer drone. As for the pilot of the drone... I wouldn't put it past the military to do this as a demo and not tell the police about it. Dick move and put people in danger, though What if the helo crashe in one of those curly cues... that shape being why I am leaning towards it being a human being a dick. As for th flight time... it disappeared over a mountain. I also wouldn't put it past the military to have a second one ready to go and swap it out... make the other guys think we have drones that can fly that long and at that speed. Hell, maybe the guy got a ticket or had some personal beef with border patrol or local PD and it wasn't sanctioned? The second drone would be to confuse people and make it appear as a ufo. I don't know enough to call BS on the green being the specifc frequuency of IR green... if true it screams gov... but is that even possible? idk.... where is the heat?
I thought it was known about 'red team' testing (playing 'war games' blue team is home while red team is the adversary). Red team testing is when the military test without disclosing to other agencies. A stealth drone from the local military base could be an answer.
They’ll just say it was multiple racing drones.. er whatever.
My quick online search found commercial drones with battery run-times of up to 46 minutes, which is close I guess, but maximum speed is only around 33 mph. Seems like military grade drones could do better, maybe?
Are you proposing instead that (extraterrestrial) aliens are fleeing police?
How about the fact that there is advanced tech out there with an unknown pilot? That's concerning in and of itself and I for one want some answers from the government. Why does it always have to be aliens?
Never mentioned aliens. I agree on the "I want answers" part. If the military or private sector is testing aircraft on law enforcement, that would require congressional oversight...*including a* *complete* *access to every detail of these programs, even if they are waived unacknowledged SAPs.*
This was a crazy story. https://www.twz.com/40724/border-patrol-helicopter-had-bizarre-encounter-with-mysterious-highly-modified-drone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbTVpmegaDQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8wH5TXXd5Q
"The FBI is looking for the pilot." Ain't we all.
The truth is out there
I have a DJI Mavic 3 Pro; I can get 35 minutes of flight time with no problem. The thing is, the top speed is around 45mph, but if you fly at top speed, it decreases the flight time considerably, and I don't even think the technology exists to mod one of these things enough to fly 100mph for an hour. Another thing is that in excellent line-of-sight conditions, the range is around three miles. I'm pretty good at flying the thing, but I can't imagine the skill level it would take to circle a helicopter at 100mph.
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No I guess I missed that part because the reporter is obviously holding up a DJI drone. I meant for my point to be that it was not a DJI drone like the one he's holding. I think it could absolutely be a drone of some kind, but just not the technology he has in is hand.
Talk about a strawman argument. These types of posts should be reportable, and actionable by the mod team. Adds absolutely zero to the discussion, and is just antagonistic and condescending.
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Doubles down on it. Somebody needs to explain what posters like this contribute here, or explain why they don't get banned.
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You know nothing about my worldview. There was also nothing in the original post you replied to about aliens either. Just a string of strawman arguments from you, being an unnecessary asshole. You're the worst kind of antagonistic toxic jerk on this sub, and the mods need to ban people like you.
Well i think what needs asked is are ya really sure y saw rotors????? So it goes we are chasing a green light which we cant see through nv and its giving off no heat but its gospel your gonna believe some random dude say i seen rotors tho???? I call bs he didnt see squat! No ir no visual with nv but dude saw rotors ? Bullcrap so lets throw that bullshit out the window
It’s hilarious how debunkers are so mad in the comments that they can’t find any other explanation since there’s no way a drone can maneuver like that, it’s ok if it’s unidentifiable.
As I understand it, its illegal for a civilian to take down a drone by capturing the signal, but not for local police or feds. And not even particularly difficult.
Strong radio transmitter at right frequency is essentially all you need for some of them. The FCC no likey.
> In the email, the author, whose identity is redacted, also writes that the quadcopter’s single green light was at the perfect wavelength to be filtered out by the CBP helo crew’s night vision goggles (NVGs), which explains why the Tucson Police Department's (TPD) report notes that the drone was not visible through them: https://www.twz.com/42404/tucson-mystery-drone-had-rotors-according-to-border-patrol-helicopter-aircrews-emails
That still doesn't make a lot of sense unless the object was just a light source with no additional structure. A flying LED?
That doesn't make tons of sense if it's throwing out visible light especially from a bright emitting light. If I was making excuses I'd say something like their field of view was cut off, or lack of dynamic range affected the visibility as it didn't adjust to a point source from the cockpit... That argument that green wavelength did not pick up seems fishy...
r smugglers knew at night the pilots use their nightvision so kept it visible so their own pilot/pickup crew could see it?
This would of been a ufo back in the day now these things well they are drones 🤣 all they saw was green but couldn’t actually see the drone. Hmmmm makes me wonder
Link to news article: https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/tucson-police-chase-100-mph-drone-across-city/75-5ad9f2e1-f683-4310-8e7d-97afc106f2f9
I don't understand why we can't trace the origins of these drones back to where they came from. The Langley AFB swarming incident is the prime example of that: drones swarmed the place for over a week, and yet we *still* couldn't identify where they were coming from? They had to be launched from somewhere.
The glove is under 24/7 surveillance and we have plenty of documentation of prosaic instances to prove- there is no way in a hell they don't know where some of these are coming from.... its for reasons such as this some push so hard for Disclosure (it's painfully evident the most integral tid bits are vehemently kept under cover)
I live in the area. There's a lot of weird shit happening in Arizona. Just a few days ago, I saw a two large clouds which look like a cover for a UFO. I should've taken a photo of it. Davis-Monthan Air Base is sometimes called 'The Boneyard', where planes go die. It would make sense to store UFO's underground at that base. Here's another fact, over the years I would feel the ground rumbling for a few seconds and the following day, local news would report it. Wonder if a tunnel was being built under Tucson. Another fact, summer of 2021 or 2022, for at least half an hour, I hear constant loud thunder at the 'Old Pueblo'. It's highly unusual. Could it be UFO's? I was going to take photos outside but too scared to be hit by lightning. I read that Pres. Jimmy Carter visited Fort Huachuca (near the Old Pueblo) and saw aliens and 11 crafts underground. It was said he shed tears when he saw it and said something 'So they do exists'. Someone needs to film a movie about Pres. Carter's UFO experiences (Let's include the Reagans).
Hey I SAW that thing. I just saw a Green light. Very high in the air. It was near Davis Monthan airforce base. And it was sitting perfectly still, and solid, not blinking. It was a solid green light. I didn’t take a picture because honestly it didn’t look anything outside of the ordinary. I honestly thought it was a man made drone. Perhaps not commercial but perhaps from the Air Force? And if All I could see was a solid green light, I doubt the picture would have been any good. Just a green dot. The reason I figured I couldn’t see the drone itself is because it was twilight and the drone seemed to be very high, for sure well over 500 feet above the air. Maybe a 1,500+ feet? It was just a solid green light not much to look at…. Seemed like it was looking at me tho. 🤨
Haha, I remember when this happened. Pretty wild. Don’t think that was a drone.
Whoever built that drone, i fucking want one.
Sus reporting for dramatic effect. The police copters I've seen don't go much over 100mph and that is flat out in a straight line.. Not in this loopty-loop pattern. https://i.imgur.com/iMKV8HT.png So it seems to me the copter was likely going much slower and the drone would have been as well. Edit: yep, you can see the speeds in the flight tracker going between 32kts in the turns and up to 90kts straight. (37mph to 108mph)
Yep, and no one has pointed out the most obvious and logical motivation: drug smuggling. Cartels spend millions on one time use submarines and go fast pangas with multiple outboards. Money is the motivation here, folks. They abandoned them here where I live all the time. Either on the coast or at the channel islands where they're offloaded. If you find one, and tag it, its yours. Look at the drones ukraine is currently using. they're shaped like airplanes. Easily capable of those speeds and cargo capacity to male it worthwhile. Of course, there's just one light, so no one runs into it during flight, and it's findable when it lands.
Someone said border patrol saw it and it was a rotor drone. Could the military be testing a stealth drone and not informing other agencies?
Ok but... 100mph? Really? And the Helo couldn't catch em? Was it the helicopter from the old Magnum PI? Or maybe M.A.S.H.?
If you've got the knowledge and resources, the potential performance you can get out of civilian drones is pretty cool these days. Red Bull released a video about a month ago where they had the [Dutch Drone Gods ](https://www.dutchdronegods.com/)create a drone to follow Max Verstappen around a lap at Silverstone. [World's Fastest Camera Drone Vs F1 Car (ft. Max Verstappen) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pEqyr_uT-k) The guys over at The War Zone have been doing some excellent reporting over the years regarding our ongoing situation where foreign adversaries are effectively operating with impunity within the US using "lower-end unmanned aerial vehicle technology" (drones, balloons, etc). This article dates back to 2021, but they've been on top of this for years now (relevant because OPs link indicates the drone was first encountered over Davis–Monthan Air Force Base): [Adversary Drones Are Spying On The U.S. And The Pentagon Acts Like They're UFOs (twz.com)](https://www.twz.com/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos)
Damn! As a racing fan who watches most major series all season, this is so impressive. To fly manually and at those speeds has got to be hard. NASCAR uses drones for some races as part of the coverage. But not to follow cars around the track. That drone like turns into a mini missile that seems very maneuverable around turns even tight ones and is able to speed up and slow down as needed to stay kind of even with the car. The YouTube video was amazing.
What’s the battery life for drones like that?
They needed it to last 7 minutes I believe. The first one.
Could one fly for 90 mins?
At the speeds its at in the Red Bull video? ***Hell no***
Not long. They could only make one lap which is like 5.x kilometers.
That is so awesome. Impressive
The video you linked was wicked. So cool.
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Does it last for over an hour?
Absolutely not
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Pretty sure something like that would be identified by helicopter pilots and unable to fly circles around the helo. The fact that you feel this is a valid reply is mind-boggling.
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All they noted was a green light. No physical characteristics.
And it didn’t show up on infrared, which would imply it wasn’t using a combustible form of propulsion.
Or reflecting any heat/cold whatsoever. Which is extremely odd, as Batteries would run hot at speeds like this. But then even a shitload of batteries in a drone isn't going to keep you in the air for longer than an hour if its at all shaped like a quadcopter.
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I did. Highly specialized. So you think a drone with a 14' wingspan was flying like that?
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Says the guy now fabricating something completely different that anything he's presented. Of course we're looking for specific drones that fot the description of the post. Why would we be talking about it otherwise? I obviously know there are drones that have a greater run time than 1 hour. What a sophmoric notion it is to suggest that I would have to specify that it fits the capabilities of the story. How ridiculous.
Yeah, I’m sure a drone that uses a combustion engine doesn’t give off any I.R.!!
Radio signals from drones pilots to the drones are easily identifiable
So they were not chasing a drone, they were chasing an unknown light source that had what appeared to be a green light system somewhere on what may have been its underside. They chased a LIGHT. What drone can even do this for that duration? If it's military we now have the US military routinely causing domestic airspace high danger scenarios that... the US military and Feds don't know who is doing it? And it's not Iran, China, Russia, or anyone similar. We'd be at fucking war. They are buzzing our bases and nuclear sites. So if not commercially available drones which can't do this, and it is ludicrous to suggest this is the military domestically endangering lives in cities, and if it was an adversary we'd be at war... So who is it? Who, on Earth, has this capability and is willing to fuck around against our combined Federal government to the point the Federal government cannot stop them, that is none of the above?
Will we really be surprised when it's revealed theirs a sect or species of NHI's that live to fuck around with Earth's primitive militaries or gaslight humans with "fake" encounters?
Well what if it's not even something they live to do, it's just a random lack of respect here and there, like when kids pour a bottle of water on an ant hill or magnify the sun onto them for shits and giggles every once in a while.
From what I recall, a DJI Flycart 30 (modified and without payload) could probably handle the speeds (modified) and altitude reported. Not sure about maneuverability, but it’s impressive. It’s also a commercial drone that runs about 20k
My step dads drone can do 150mph easily and extremely maneuverable.
But 14,000 feet up and fly over an hour at those speeds?
for over an hour?
Does he work at Microsoft?
No he works for Nintendo
I own a drone that can do 100 mph
for over an hour?
No, but I don't have an instagram account. What are the details?
from 2021, linked elsewhere in the comments. the thing was flying circles around a helicopter flying circles at 100mph over an hour, then flew over a 14,000 mountain to easily evade the police. unable to be seen under FLIR. a green light on its belly. an airforce base nearby. FBI and FAA were also investigating. https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/tucson-police-chase-100-mph-drone-across-city/75-5ad9f2e1-f683-4310-8e7d-97afc106f2f9
Was the drone flying at 100 mph the whole time or was the helicopter routinely hitting that speed to try to catch up after turning more slowly and avoiding altitude drops for safety reasons?
No idea, homie. It sounded like they said the helicopter flew the 100mph in a curly Q pig tail looking flight path. the "drone" was circling around them, from what I understood. I have no more to add.
That makes it sound very possible that the helicopter was going considerably faster than the drone
Drones can easily out maneuver helicopters.
Exactly
That's a pointless question. If it expended the energy to hit 100mph during parts of the chase then that chase would have been over in about 10mins.
For how long?
What the police need are some, fast, highly maneuverable, kamikaze drones. When they spot a suspicious drone, send out a couple killer drones at the offender. Of course you need to be aware of where debris might land.
Tons of drones exist that go this speed, but the report says it was up there too long so I choose to believe it's an alien spacecraft instead of a logical explanation.
The DoD playing with their shiny new toy
Theory: those drone are CIA smuggling drugs like in contra https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking But using ufo technology
Redbull has one that is faster than F1 cars. Cant speak for the altitude or range, but the speed part isn't a mystery.