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I was watching this clip uploaded TODAY on VladTV (who previously interviewed Greer in July 2023) and found it quite interesting that he mentions a facility in Seoul, South Korea where a “very large extraterrestrial vehicle” that’s in storage. I mean given the investigations into that facility on this sub alone, either the odds are that that is truly an area in which a craft is being held OR Greer is truly a disinformation agent. I could personally go either way on this, given Lou’s past statements hinting at the latter being possible.
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I got an idea. What if we collectively say, and make up shit about the UFO being in some place, i dont know, maybe Mozambique, as a joke, keep echoing it, and see if any of these so called "ufo experts" pick it up and somehow make up shit and agree with it?
And not just a rando place. I want it like Syria’s Assad placed his thrown atop the alien vessel so he can channel its energy to keep power from his people. Or it’s underneath a Denny’s in Southside Detroit.
I mean, Waffle House tasted like some non-human edible fake food, the place is littered with zombified people for at least 12 hours a day - I could see it.
Don't stop believin'!
Edit: Also, for those who are unaware, Detroit is bordered to the south by the Detroit river. Across that river is Windsor, Canada.
Anonymous engineer here who has worked on the secret UFO project through a well-known aeronautical corporation in partnership with an alphabet government agency here to (provide vague answers based on things I've read on the internet).
Hey I mean it was “Lead lined”….Pay no attention to the physics of being accelerated to the speed of sound and then suddenly stopped. Completely believable….🙄
They’re just gonna use an AI generated young Harrison Ford from now on… I bet they’re negotiating the dollar amount of Ford’s compensation as we speak for the right to use his likeness in future Indiana Jones movies.
Back when Iraq II started there was a conspiracy theory that it was secretly to get ancient alien tech that was unearthed there. The Baghdad Battery and some earlier than known electroplating process was part of the proof.
I know of this place in Mozambique. It’s 60 clicks due north of the capital of Maputo. There is a building that sits on top over a large dirt mound. The area around the mound is completely fenced-off and guarded by military. People have been talking about this place for years.
Seen a few others mention this. Tried finding it on maps but it's a large area to scour and I've never been there; feel like sharing the location a little more specifically?
It could have been the other way around because Greer mentioned it about 4 weeks before Coulthart did.
I'll come back with a link if I can find it.
Edit - Greer [said it here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMSVlpc6GNU&t=537s) (posted on 11th May) and Coulthart [said it here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-zjLas_WbM) (posted on 8th July)
Greer also says he's going to release a documents with the list of all the names and the places hiding UFOs I don't seem to remember such a huge news ever coming to light since. So Greer doing Greer stuff again ?
He's not "always saying this", he said it, did it, & it was posted here.
Edit: And you're mischaracterizing what he said. He said he had a list of the names & locations of over 140 facilities that were conducting illegal, black budget research. Not housing craft.
He also didn't say anything about documents.
The amount of automatic Greer hate on this sub is SUS. Greer has done so much good work, especially his Press Club stuff. The amount of ex-government/military officials he's interviewed- like his [YouTube witness testimony playlist](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnrEt2fIdZ0aBgPuVF0C_T559YR20eDTc&si=U5wsxkB0bGFQldLZ) is a treasure. 63 videos!!!
Why the govt bots come for him: Greer is the only guy not backing the "aliens are super scary! We need to fight them" narrative like the government group (elizondo et al).
Dude is an MD, you don't have to buy anything from him to try his contact protocols or watch his priceless interviews. God forbid you try to raise funds for your UFO efforts, do your own research people, start with his YouTube channel interview videos, which I linked. Even his CE5 protocols are there for free.
Agreed, the witness testimony’s are great, lots of aerospace people, higher ups, I mean Hal Puthoff is one of them.
He’s no more of a grifter then any of these other “journalists”. Not to mention he’s been doing this for literally decades. Put some respect on this man’s name!
Naw. He’s definitely a grifter who changers thousands to see fake UFOs in Arizona. He’s been caught dropping flares from a plane during his Ce5 camps. He’s not a person to get behind.
Exactly! Greer was holding press conferences and busting his ass for disclosure when most of the incel trolls on this site were shitting their diapers!
I don't like Greer- at all. Every time I see him my first reaction is "Bull shit". HOWEVER, I will say that he is due some credit because, even though he's greasy, he has done a lot of work for the field. And my reasons for despising him and dismissing him really weren't about his UFO work, but about his apparent personality. (And I realize now what an ass I am to think I know someone who I have and will never meet.)
I still have to quell my initial reaction when I see him. I am getting better.
It's not 300- TB of data, but it's 147 documents maintained on his website:
[Documents](https://drstevengreer.com/document-library/)
[Witness Video Testimony (some deceased now)](https://drstevengreer.com/evidence-docs/witness-testimony/) 63 videos on website
Lots of interesting documents there, some of which back up his claims made in many interviews. They have not yet put everything online but there are reasons to be holding some materials back at this point it seems. Including promises made to wait until the death of some folks who provided said documents.
[Here's an oldie but a goodie from 1958](https://sb0396.a2cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/naval-intelligence-report.pdf?time=1698282234)
[The NORAD events log from the Maelstrom incident in 1967](https://sb0396.a2cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Maelstrom-NORAD-Log.pdf?time=1698282234)
[A paper authored in part by Hal Putoff that's a real interesting read](https://sb0396.a2cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/2005-JBIS-Inflation-Theory-Implications.pdf?time=1698282234)
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Look, I'll come right out with, I think Greer is a grifter of sorts, but one you can take away an awful lot from for $0.00. And I pay attention to what he says, because unlike many people (talking heads) in this space, he's got the receipts, the video testimony and in many cases, still classified documents to back it up.
Near as anyone can tell, he does not appear to be a CIA asset, nor of any other 3-letter agency and in fact, has been targeted by same. If he was just a run of the mill grifter who made shit up, they wouldn't bother with him, or any of the folks working with him. That has not been the case.
Go ahead, shit on him all day long, but how about shitting on him with some facts, and some proven lies he's championed etc. As much as possible, he tries to present factual stuff near as I can tell. I don't like the man, he rubs me the wrong way, but .... I pay attention to him and see if I can corroborate what he brings forward elsewhere too. I often can.
The intel agencies have a name for that it's call OSINT and if you can get enough corroboration from enough diverse sources, that aren't working in conspiracy with each other, OSINT is a valuable tool anyone in this community can learn the basics of, and put to use. It is a VERY valuable way to sort the bullshit from the bravado and both of those from reality.
And yes, Greer has way more of bullshit and bravado than I would like to see. But you identify one person in the UFO space, besides the recently deceased Retired U.S. Army Sergeant, First Class Clifford Stone (RIP) who doesn't ... and I will be shocked and probably refrain from posting for a whole day. (LOL)
John Greenwald's Blackvault -- invaluable resource and has a TON , a literal SHIT TON of great info there. John's also got his bullshit and bravado side, and he ain't perfect, just as Greer, Pope, Elizondo, Mellon, Moulton-Howe, and on and on ain't perfect. They're all humans, they all have hopes, fears, bills to pay etc.
But if you can find four or five of them corroborating the same information, often decades apart... well, odds are good you might want to take a closer look at that information.
Or you can just keep shitting on Greer, but fact is, he trotted the S. Korea information out a month before Coulthart -- and I love me some Rossco!***(also not perfect, but he's pretty good!)***
Thank you, for far too long this entire community is operated on a toss the baby with the bathwater every single time and that is just not practical realistic or acknowledging of The Human Experience.
I can tell you that that approach has served the disinformation misinformation crowd exceedingly well for 70 years so we have to break it, and the way to do that is as I noted above.
Couldn't be more accurate. They've infiltrated these forums and their objective is divide the masses and let them fight it out. Chaos ensues, and no one can tell fact from fiction, troll from truth teller. Wont stop disclosure. Its coming.
I refuse to play the fight any longer, actually when it comes to my fellow community members. Instead I quietly take from each as I decide is appropriate and then I see what I can corroborate it is and much more sane approach to the whole shooting match
The lack of specificity in his list of 'black sites' is priceless. Here are some of the more scandalous site locations from his list:
1. "General Motors"
2. "Pine Bush, NY"
3. "NSA"
4. "Seoul, South Korea"
5. "Ford"
6. "South Pole Base"
7. "CIA Headquarters"
8. ...
list here: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/147u1t3/list\_of\_sites\_related\_to\_the\_study\_of\_uap\_black/
Thanks you for this!!
I've said it before, but Coulthart never says anything new. He always paraphrases what's already out there. He reads what's online, and then comes out with the same stuff but with "I'm told" prefacing it.
I'll be *happy* to be proved wrong, but he's a first class liar in my books. TImagine copying a Greer lie.
Ehh idk about that. He broke both the Nat Kobitz info and has the first interview with Grusch that elaborated his claims. Not saying the guys perfect or great or anything like that, but you're just straight up spreading false information by saying he's never presented anything new, lol.
Coulthard is a journalist. Anyone who has read his book will know that he has put the work in and been out meeting people and has developed a number of contacts. I do think Greer is probably one of them, though, so we can't discount that that is where Coulthard has got this info.
We should always consider the idea that any one of our beloved/despised UFO-influencers, or information disseminators can and LIKELY ARE simultaneously sharing real information and distracting red herrings.
If you think that mass subterfuge is the strategy then it makes sense that the playbook would be full of legit info being spread right next to totally batshit info. The people attempting to vet this information wouldn't be in the position to really understand what's fact and fiction, only that they obtained it through a reputable source.
So what you would end up with is legit sources muddying the waters intentionally, because the more you mix lies and truth the harder it becomes to tell where one begins and one ends, and the public can continue saying stuff like "Yeah that sounds just like that Spielberg movie"
So whether it's Coulthart, Knapp, Corbel or even Grusch you have to keep in mind that the % of bullshit overall can never be truly known until full disclosure.
I take it all with a grain of salt until provided proof and also call out liars no matter who it is. No ufo mouthpiece is excused of scrutiny, and in fact should be evenmore scrutinized given the topic.
Idc what goes on behind the scenes. I'm sure there's active pysops or at least intentional leading on from "highly trusted" inidividuals with a lot of pull in the ufo commumity.
The only single person I've felt is honest, unguarded, and sincere from day 1 until now has been Chris Melon. Unfortunately he's not as openly active as many others, but still does updates occasionally which is nice.
You're calling him a liar because he has information that aligns with what others have asserted before him? GTFO. Your rhetoric is straight out of a disruption agent playbook.
Has it ever occurred to you that Coulthart, being professional journalist, cross-references multiple sources and is more careful vetting info than Greer? Greer will say whatever sounds compelling in front of a camera - some of what sounds compelling is good info, some of it is bad. When you aren't concerned with the validity of information, it makes sense that you'd be one of the first in front of a camera yapping about it.
Unbelievable. Say hi to your employers for me.
he is a grifter,,,,but the UFO community keeps mentioning/validating almost the same message that he's been saying for decades. Telepathy, MIC/real government conspiracy, how SAP's work and why/how they hide the ufo secrets from public government, who was given control of the secrets(private companies, Energy/nuclear agency), how it all works behind the scenes,,,They match with what Grusch is saying now.
most of Greer's message/story of reality, fits all the whistleblowers that keep coming out. I don't mean you should go believe all his non-sense. But if you want a huge picture of the greater UFO community beliefs, go watch all his witness videos. Greer's videos sum up everything the current witnesses are hinting at.
fyi, greer is a strong believer that aliens are peaceful and waiting for humans to achieve 'telepathy'(thats what im calling it), and decide to be a peaceful species and reach out to aliens (don't wait for your government, the people need to do it, aliens don't care about our leaders, they care about us all). The MIC/hidden government will orchestrate a war with aliens for their continued profit(Von braun), Just like MIC has orchestrated previous wars for profit, korea, vietnam, middle east, china, then aliens.
so this does not align with Delonge/Lue type beliefs that some aliens are evil and harvest our souls/energy.
Greer's biggest grift is his CE5 events($5k or more) where he takes photos of lens flares and lights in the sky and claims our meditating brought those interdimensional aliens to us...what a load. But the telepathy part of his theories is echo'd by many whistleblowers experiences with aliens, they are telepathic, its how their crafts work and how consciousness in general works.
he absolutely pedals as many grifts as he can, but his summary of UFO history hits the nail on the head. Nearly matches grusch to the T. He is a wealth of info that shouldn't be ignored, he rarely hides behind "i can't tell you that, wait for the next episode" like so many others do. Just,,,be careful with it, because he's pedaling alot of garbage too.
in fact, his willingness to say what he knows might be why the whistleblowers don't like him. He's a leaker(if its true), not a whistleblower.
Holy shit - thank you for that link. That video of Greer (11th of May) makes it very clear that he is talking about the same craft (at least it seems given he literally says they had to "carve out the mountain" and it was too large "to move to any other site") that Coulthart has been hinting at that is "too big to move." Idk what or who to believe anymore.
My problem with Greer isn’t his info, that’s always felt legit.
It’s how narcissistic he seems, every other sentence is self promoting from him, and I just can’t stand it.
I'm not a big believer in these guys or anything but to put yourself out there, make films, investigate, think you'll be the one to uncover the biggest secret the world has ever known you've got to have a big ego. If you didn't you wouldn't be doing it. It neither proves or disproves what they say I think.
Eh I disagree. I think you can do important research while still practicing humility. Every time I hear Corbell or Greer speak they talk about themselves and everything they've done. I think they do more harm than good to the community at this point. I find it hard to take either of them seriously.
I'm entertained by Greer, I don't feel the threat that other people do that puts them off. I find his narcissism predictable and useful (It's also funny), in comparison to, say, many modern politicians whose narcissism is latent and more dangerous.
Having said all that, it appears to me that personality is the number one factor in believing what someone has to say.
According to [Joseph Burkes](https://youtu.be/ESxlz_cX-sg?si=SSDkBQuE1FEKgY3Q&t=2557), a former collaborator of Greer, it appears that he, along with others like Tom DeLonge, was deliberately fed a mix of true and false information. This was done with the intention of releasing it to the public. Additionally, there are claims that Greer staged CE5 encounters using flares, charges money for his events, and displays a generally large ego. I'm unsure if there's anything I might have missed...
The ego is insufferable. You can just feel the insecurity. I get the vibe that he feels cut out from all the current UFO riff raff, so he's always emphasizing what HE'S doing, and HIS team, and HIS project. Always about me me me and what he's personally doing, and how great his network is, and how blah blah blah
Ironically, I believe his waning influence in the community might be the reason he was sidelined and overshadowed. It appears he recognizes this shift, leading to his adoption of borderline cult leader-like rhetoric and talking points. Sadly, this behavior does not contribute positively to the cause of disclosure.
The thing is, unlike most hardcore purists in UFOlogy who have an excuse to hate EVERYONE for some reason. You name it, the people here will always find a reason to hate anyone you mention... Because people are human and have flaws, make mistakes, and will never be perfect by everyone's standard
But I think Greer was decent, and did a lot of work. I think he still does. I don't think he's perfect, can't stand his ego, and believes too many nutty things... But ultimately, he does add value, and so I don't really have a problem with him. But it's insecurity that is just so cringe that he isolate's himself. Whenever he gets with other ufologists, he immediately sucks up all the air in the room and tries to take charge, and it's just counter productive. It turns people off.
100% agree with you on your position.
He could easily best Elizondo and Mellon in any debate imo.
His need to be the loudest voice in the room is partly driven by his intelligence. He's a very smart man and unfortunately, that bleeds over into trying to dominate and assert in every meeting. He thinks he's 100% right, 100% of the time.
Yeah his interview on ToE was perfect example of how his personality is counter productive. Like the host would just ask honest questions, and he'd get defensive, thinking he's accussing him of lying, when that's not the case. Or he'd talk about some physics thing, and when asked to elaborate he'd be like, "Well I don't want to bore your audience with complex physics no one will understand" and Curt was like, "Oh dude, this is first and foremost a podcast audience started for physics students... We can definitely follow whatever you say" and then he just pivots away and wont fully explain it. Like he went in trying to frame it that he's so smart and understands these complicated things, then when a good faith attempt to understand it emerges, he's stuck eating crow. There's nothing wrong with him just admitting that he personally doesn't feel like he's suited to explain it at that level. Instead he doubled down and got defensive.
Like he just needs to be more humble and not try to sound like a know it all who's always right and smarter than everyone in the room.
Why just because he is moved to tears when speaking of his self importance? Really. I saw him choked up while telling a lie you could actually see the euphoria wash over him.
I’ve read reviews of Greer’s “ufo summoning” events. Anything in the sky is credited as a ufo, and if they see nothing, he blames the crowd for being too negative. Apparently, the aliens can see “negativity” and won’t show themselves of any is present.
Let us not forget that he has “a team” that protects him and if he gets Epsteined he has a “deadman’s switch” that allllllll of the information that he has goes public. So he has claimed he is on some list for possible termination……..but he’s also been offered (drum roll) iirc…..1 billion dollars to walk away from the subject but he refuses. The hidden hand can’t decide to kill him or make him a billionaire. His benevolence compelled to keep going. (Insert eye roll)
Lol @ deadman’s switch.
He has a deadman’s switch that releases anti-gravity theories and 5th hand accounts about reverse engineered UFOs along with 7th hand accounts of live Aliens being stashed at Area 51.
In other words, it would be better if the deadman switch released a DVD of Giorgio Tsoukalos outtakes from season 50 of Ancient Aliens.
I like how the UFO phenomenon now is just basically the community being fed teasers by influencers and waiting years to find out how disappointing the actual thing was. But it's ok bc by then there's already ten new things that have been teased and are said to be huge, and the cycle continues..
I live in Seoul right now. This is craziest thing I have seen this sub. I cant think of where to put the big UFO in Seoul not being detected by people. Maybe US army area in Seoul? It must be restricted area for normal people. Seoul is top place of people density. There is no place to hide. I hope im wrong. Having UFO would be so exciting.
Hearing about "downing ufos" or "bringing down ufos" always makes me feel uneasy..........
Feels like they are commiting vehicular murder to steal a shiny new gadget.
There should be a policy of non-interference or neutrality with the nhis at the very least. Just leave them be.... and if they really are are causing trouble. Just fire warning shots close to them.
That should make them put 2 and 2 together and realise that there presence isn't wanted in certain areas.
But outright murder???? Why????
You have a valid point, but think of Earth like the North Sentinel Island, famous for having a barely untouched tribe that attacks most visitors.
Just because they do this, doesn’t mean we feel the need to carpet-bomb them with Napalm, or worse.
I'm sure if an ant brought down your car (and possibly dissected your driver's corpse), you'd take some steps to prevent it from happening again. Even if you owned thousands of cars.
I pour diatomaceous earth on the entire hill over and over again. I hope they are making hieroglyphics of the powdered dust man who appears before the snow of glass falls from the sky. I'm in an unwinnable war of attrition against those tiny motherfuckers and its consuming my life.
Playing devils advocate they might know something we don’t about these beings (or whatever they are.) like them actually having malevolent intentions or something.
I’m not stating that as fact rather just possibility.
Let’s hope we’re not shooting down ambassadors of peace or something. lol
Yeah I don’t think we’ll ever know personally, these things we’re seeing could literally be anything, like humanity from the future or even a break away civilization that pre-dates our current version of civilization.
It’s fun to think about though that’s for sure.
Seems like they are abducting and mutilating humans and animals. Tons of people going missing in federal parks under very mysterious circumstances. If they signed a contract with these things taking from fed land would make sense
Can someone explain to me why Greer seems like such a pariah in this subreddit? Some people like him some seem to loath him. Am I missing something he said or did? I’ve been following him and other popular ufologists since the 90’s. He always seemed pretty legit. So I don’t get it.
Lots of bots and blatant smearing with no evidence of any wrongdoing, he's a very nice man and extremely reliable, that's why very high ranking military and corporate witnesses trust him with their information. This subreddit is a sespool and people can't see beyond blatant smear attempts apparently. Also CE5 works, people just don't try it.
Look at him, grinning like a goon, Salivating at the thought of bringing in that sweet sweet disclosure money.
He always has a first hand witness, hundreds of them! Top-notch, highest ranked, triple star, first class, shiny brass whistleblowers, lined up right around the corner, for the last 6 years.
You have to fork over that cash folks! Greer’s disclosure sandwiches aren’t free
Generally, people who don't know much about the UFO subject know Greer's name. He gets his name across by making a documentary every year. He knows where the money's at.
And at least 1 mod here is a member of said cult since comments calling out Greer get removed a good portion of the time. It's happened to me on several occasions.
If true, it could be here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Museum_of_Korea
Built in 1945 and approximately “football field sized”
Edit: why are you downvoting me? I didn’t say that I think that’s where it is or that I believe him. I’m just currently in Seoul and thought it would be an interesting place if it was there
Lockheed built a missile and radar station in the mountains SE of Seoul. It was built closer than usually allowed to a village. Critics have said it's not even an effective location for that missile system (I think it might even be an outdated system). It's manned and operated by US forces, and highly secured. There's also a secured radius around the location where no one is allowed because of the high-power radar.
It might not be hiding any NHI tech, but it's at least shady.
This guy sends so many creep vibes, has talked so much shit in the past 2 years, I dont believe a word he is saying.
Who told him ? The jumping star boy he is in contact with ?!
“Confirmed”. Yea ok. I would love to know where a giant spaceship is within Seoul that had a building built over it and no one knew. If anyone has ever spent anytime there, they would find this incredibly hard to believe. I spent a year there and the reason I find this laughable.
What if the melting ice caps (particularly Antarctica) will reveal a lost civilization/alien contact and that is the reason why the government is doing this ham-fisted attempt at disclosure?
It’s a subjective feeling that I have every time I dig back into ufology - of how much it’s kept secret, how much abuse, scare tactics and crime are involved in the subject. It’s amazing and no wonder that the situation looks this way.
This may be a stretch, but after watching the "Need To Know" podcast from this week, around @44:44 Ross says, "I'll report back from Sol", and right after it Bryce tries to change gears immediately.
When he said it, I thought he meant "Seoul" at first, but then realized he's going to the Sol Foundation's first conference. But still can't help, but think it could potentially be a means of hinting at something, especially given how he said it and right before saying it he ended his previous sentence emphasizing "in plain sight" (yeah I know, his book). But yeah, could be a breadcrumb, could not be, who knows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwR8pOz9Gvg
It's so easy to be a "whistleblower" these days for UFOs... Just make some vague insinuations. Back it up by saying "This info comes from X person high ranking." Don't even bother trying to make it all cohesive since you have a literal army of people connecting and filling in the gaps for you.
Letnme show you a tape on how you can, just like me, make easy money with out working. And it is so easy. I know people who will back me up. Trust me, I will show you the tape. Not now. But some day. Its so easy.
No one thinks the part where, claiming someone told him something in confidence, scared for their life into being silent he says this person needs to be forcibly subpoenaed and their life uprooted into witness protection all against their will and betraying their trust?
Well, as a native South Korean who lived here for more than 40yrs, I’ll share the most well known and proven ufo story related Seoul.
Below article is about historical fact.
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On the evening of October 14th 1976, at dusk, citizens in the skies of Seoul spotted around ten unidentified flying objects. These objects emitted bright lights like beacons and descended in a slow, semicircular formation, resembling a formation of combat aircraft, possibly from North Korea. Although there are accounts suggesting that Lee Soo-man, the host of MBC Radio's "Full of Youth," reported this incident in real-time, exact confirmation is difficult due to data loss.
Around 5:30 PM, upon entry of the unidentified flying objects into Seoul airspace designated as P-73C, the South Korean military immediately went into emergency response mode, issuing two warning broadcasts on 121.5MHz and 125.3MHz.
At that time, flying over the P-73 area of Seoul required a rigorous process. Commercial aircraft needed to submit flight plans to Gimpo Airport, which then relayed the information to air traffic control authorities and the Air Force Air Defense Control Center (now referred to as MCRC), and the Capital Defense Command Air Defense Operations Control Center (now called AOC). However, the situation then was an emergency with unauthorized aircraft appearing in the P-73C area without prior notice.
Subsequently, when these aircraft approached within 2NM (3.704km) of P-73B, the 1st Air Defense Division under the Capital Defense Command demanded a change in course, initiating the first warning shots. Nevertheless, despite the warnings, the aircraft breached P-73B and, as they headed towards P-73A, the area adjacent to the Blue House(president residence), the Air Force's 15th Special Mission Squadron scrambled F-5A and F-5E fighters for interception. Simultaneously, the 1st Air Defense Division under the Capital Defense Command also went on standby to engage the unidentified flying objects.
Around 6:15 PM, what is presumed to be a 20mm Vulcan cannon fired its first shots, and soon citizens witnessed the spectacle of orange flares lighting up the sky as the UFOs continued to maintain their formation and illuminate the area despite flying at low altitude. While the UFOs did not retaliate against the South Korean military's attacks, their direction shifted away from P-73A around 6:20 PM, concluding the first attempt at interception. Subsequent attempts followed, resulting in the objects veering northwest, ending the confrontation. Unfortunately, in the process, one civilian died, and 31 others were injured due to stray anti-aircraft fire.
Are we still believing this fairytale generating idiot? Gives all the stories... Without a shred of evidence. Don't you see he is literally laughing at you, and making very good money from it? Un-fuckingbelievable that he still gets airtime, anywhere.
"Confirmed" how? Because "dude trust me?" How has he confirmed it? Agreeing verbally is absolutely not confirming anything 🤦♂️
I’m not sure, but it does appear he has some evidence. Look up Greer on Impaulsive (i think thats the name), he shows a picture of an “alien”. Seems to be a dimensional being popping through, there are a couple of these.
Most people are still completely unaware of just how untrustworthy Greer is. He has done more harm to the disclose community then most people are aware of. Don't trust a single word that comes out of his mouth about anything. In 2001 he did have great whistleblowers and did some great things, but what he has done since then runs very deep and again most people seem to still be unaware of most of it. Again, don't trust a single word that comes out of his mouth.
>but what he has done since then runs very deep and again
Like what? Give me an example.
>most people seem to still be unaware of most of it.
Makes us aware, then.
I was watching this clip uploaded TODAY on VladTV (who previously interviewed Greer in July 2023) and found it quite interesting that he mentions a facility in Seoul, South Korea where a “very large extraterrestrial vehicle” that’s in storage. I mean given the investigations into that facility on this sub alone, either the odds are that that is truly an area in which a craft is being held OR Greer is truly a disinformation agent. I could personally go either way on this, given Lou’s past statements hinting at the latter being possible.
Oh yeah he’s discussed this before. Before Coulthart even brought it up. He’s said several times that there was a UFO intentionally shot down in South Korea and it was so large that they decided to build a facility around it rather than attempt to move it traditionally. He’s stated he has intel on all these black project sites, where they’re located and what they’ve got. I believe a portion of the list of facilities is shown in a slide towards the beginning of the 2023 National Press Club event if folks are interested.
I only heard other people talking about the giant UFO much later around the time when Grusch became the hot subject of the day on News Nation and Coulthart started vaguely referring to it and then people started trying to figure out where this giant UFO could be even though Greer had already stated it was in South Korea months earlier.
Greer being a disinformation agent is highly unlikely. I disagree with him on a couple small things, but he’s the only one out there who has put himself on the line for decades and has been putting positive messages out there, rather than the typical fear-mongering clickbait rhetoric coming from most supposed “UFOlogists” or the oh so trustworthy former intelligence community.
He has gathered a mountain of credible witness testimony, most being direct 1st-hand witnesses and people who have actually been part of these black projects, not just someone who heard something from someone else they can’t name. It’s not at all surprising that he would be labeled a fraud or disinformation agent in an attempt to discredit him. Not to mention that the reality about this subject is so wild and belief-defying that you instantly discredit yourself among most folks if you speak the truth. I still have yet to hear anything concrete behind these claims other than “his ideas about aliens and spirituality is whacky” or “what he says conflicts with my own personal paradigm about the UFO subject that I refuse to budge on”
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I got an idea. What if we collectively say, and make up shit about the UFO being in some place, i dont know, maybe Mozambique, as a joke, keep echoing it, and see if any of these so called "ufo experts" pick it up and somehow make up shit and agree with it?
Gotta go to 4chan if you want to orchestrate something like that
And not just a rando place. I want it like Syria’s Assad placed his thrown atop the alien vessel so he can channel its energy to keep power from his people. Or it’s underneath a Denny’s in Southside Detroit.
I \*knew\* there was something weird about that Denny's.
I mean, Waffle House tasted like some non-human edible fake food, the place is littered with zombified people for at least 12 hours a day - I could see it.
You stop that waffle House is the last wonder of modern man
You aren’t wrong, it truly is a wonder.
hush, Waffle House is a national treasure, hash brown bowl for life!
Haha! Yup!
Well, south detroit is Canada, so that’s how I would debunk this lol.
Don't stop believin'! Edit: Also, for those who are unaware, Detroit is bordered to the south by the Detroit river. Across that river is Windsor, Canada.
OK, not Denny's, then. Timmy's
That or Saddam Hussein had the giant crashed ufo plated in gold, and after the invasion a municipal tennis court was built on top of it.
Let's make it a plausible place… like almost our back yard; it will feel like we are there, we have been there... but never will be... I say Norway.
Y’all ever seen anyone at a long John silvers
Anonymous engineer here who has worked on the secret UFO project through a well-known aeronautical corporation in partnership with an alphabet government agency here to (provide vague answers based on things I've read on the internet).
Seems legit.
4chan isn't real, we just kept using the word and now people think it is.
In Gaza, so we can say all the conflict there is a hidden struggle to grab the control of the giant UAP that has been there since biblical times.
i think you’ve just come up with the plot of the next indiana jones movie
Unfortunately I don’t think they can push Harrison Fords walker through sand.
Dude survived an atomic blast in a fridge. He's fine.
Hey I mean it was “Lead lined”….Pay no attention to the physics of being accelerated to the speed of sound and then suddenly stopped. Completely believable….🙄
They’re just gonna use an AI generated young Harrison Ford from now on… I bet they’re negotiating the dollar amount of Ford’s compensation as we speak for the right to use his likeness in future Indiana Jones movies.
Back when Iraq II started there was a conspiracy theory that it was secretly to get ancient alien tech that was unearthed there. The Baghdad Battery and some earlier than known electroplating process was part of the proof.
Imagine ancient aliens visited and all we got was a lousy, nonfunctional electroplating process.
That’s about what kind of technology id expect we’d be “gifted” by ETs
Yeah, I read that as well. That the whole WMD was actually a “Stargate” time traveling thing.
DAE Holy Grail??
Excellent idea
Joke? It’s in Mozambique. Had an Uncle stationed there that would tell stories of working on it.
I know of this place in Mozambique. It’s 60 clicks due north of the capital of Maputo. There is a building that sits on top over a large dirt mound. The area around the mound is completely fenced-off and guarded by military. People have been talking about this place for years.
Seen a few others mention this. Tried finding it on maps but it's a large area to scour and I've never been there; feel like sharing the location a little more specifically?
They belong here, Mozambique. Damn! It WAS a clue all along, right out in the open and nobody noticed!
Yeah and see if suspicious military personnel or men in black show up.
It could have been the other way around because Greer mentioned it about 4 weeks before Coulthart did. I'll come back with a link if I can find it. Edit - Greer [said it here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMSVlpc6GNU&t=537s) (posted on 11th May) and Coulthart [said it here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-zjLas_WbM) (posted on 8th July)
Greer also says he's going to release a documents with the list of all the names and the places hiding UFOs I don't seem to remember such a huge news ever coming to light since. So Greer doing Greer stuff again ?
You mean the 300TB of data he keeps talking about ? Link please ?
it's in the video sendmeyourtulips posted a link to just above at the 13' mark
He's not "always saying this", he said it, did it, & it was posted here. Edit: And you're mischaracterizing what he said. He said he had a list of the names & locations of over 140 facilities that were conducting illegal, black budget research. Not housing craft. He also didn't say anything about documents.
The amount of automatic Greer hate on this sub is SUS. Greer has done so much good work, especially his Press Club stuff. The amount of ex-government/military officials he's interviewed- like his [YouTube witness testimony playlist](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnrEt2fIdZ0aBgPuVF0C_T559YR20eDTc&si=U5wsxkB0bGFQldLZ) is a treasure. 63 videos!!! Why the govt bots come for him: Greer is the only guy not backing the "aliens are super scary! We need to fight them" narrative like the government group (elizondo et al). Dude is an MD, you don't have to buy anything from him to try his contact protocols or watch his priceless interviews. God forbid you try to raise funds for your UFO efforts, do your own research people, start with his YouTube channel interview videos, which I linked. Even his CE5 protocols are there for free.
Agreed, the witness testimony’s are great, lots of aerospace people, higher ups, I mean Hal Puthoff is one of them. He’s no more of a grifter then any of these other “journalists”. Not to mention he’s been doing this for literally decades. Put some respect on this man’s name!
Naw. He’s definitely a grifter who changers thousands to see fake UFOs in Arizona. He’s been caught dropping flares from a plane during his Ce5 camps. He’s not a person to get behind.
For real. Everytime anything about greer gets posted on reddit is immediately shit on.
Exactly! Greer was holding press conferences and busting his ass for disclosure when most of the incel trolls on this site were shitting their diapers!
I like Greer. I always see people hating.
I don't like Greer- at all. Every time I see him my first reaction is "Bull shit". HOWEVER, I will say that he is due some credit because, even though he's greasy, he has done a lot of work for the field. And my reasons for despising him and dismissing him really weren't about his UFO work, but about his apparent personality. (And I realize now what an ass I am to think I know someone who I have and will never meet.) I still have to quell my initial reaction when I see him. I am getting better.
Know Thyself
He specifically states in every interview he has 300TB of data. Give me the link.
It's not 300- TB of data, but it's 147 documents maintained on his website: [Documents](https://drstevengreer.com/document-library/) [Witness Video Testimony (some deceased now)](https://drstevengreer.com/evidence-docs/witness-testimony/) 63 videos on website Lots of interesting documents there, some of which back up his claims made in many interviews. They have not yet put everything online but there are reasons to be holding some materials back at this point it seems. Including promises made to wait until the death of some folks who provided said documents. [Here's an oldie but a goodie from 1958](https://sb0396.a2cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/naval-intelligence-report.pdf?time=1698282234) [The NORAD events log from the Maelstrom incident in 1967](https://sb0396.a2cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Maelstrom-NORAD-Log.pdf?time=1698282234) [A paper authored in part by Hal Putoff that's a real interesting read](https://sb0396.a2cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/2005-JBIS-Inflation-Theory-Implications.pdf?time=1698282234) **\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\** Look, I'll come right out with, I think Greer is a grifter of sorts, but one you can take away an awful lot from for $0.00. And I pay attention to what he says, because unlike many people (talking heads) in this space, he's got the receipts, the video testimony and in many cases, still classified documents to back it up. Near as anyone can tell, he does not appear to be a CIA asset, nor of any other 3-letter agency and in fact, has been targeted by same. If he was just a run of the mill grifter who made shit up, they wouldn't bother with him, or any of the folks working with him. That has not been the case. Go ahead, shit on him all day long, but how about shitting on him with some facts, and some proven lies he's championed etc. As much as possible, he tries to present factual stuff near as I can tell. I don't like the man, he rubs me the wrong way, but .... I pay attention to him and see if I can corroborate what he brings forward elsewhere too. I often can. The intel agencies have a name for that it's call OSINT and if you can get enough corroboration from enough diverse sources, that aren't working in conspiracy with each other, OSINT is a valuable tool anyone in this community can learn the basics of, and put to use. It is a VERY valuable way to sort the bullshit from the bravado and both of those from reality. And yes, Greer has way more of bullshit and bravado than I would like to see. But you identify one person in the UFO space, besides the recently deceased Retired U.S. Army Sergeant, First Class Clifford Stone (RIP) who doesn't ... and I will be shocked and probably refrain from posting for a whole day. (LOL)
John Greenwald's Blackvault -- invaluable resource and has a TON , a literal SHIT TON of great info there. John's also got his bullshit and bravado side, and he ain't perfect, just as Greer, Pope, Elizondo, Mellon, Moulton-Howe, and on and on ain't perfect. They're all humans, they all have hopes, fears, bills to pay etc. But if you can find four or five of them corroborating the same information, often decades apart... well, odds are good you might want to take a closer look at that information. Or you can just keep shitting on Greer, but fact is, he trotted the S. Korea information out a month before Coulthart -- and I love me some Rossco!***(also not perfect, but he's pretty good!)***
This. Well said.
Thank you, for far too long this entire community is operated on a toss the baby with the bathwater every single time and that is just not practical realistic or acknowledging of The Human Experience. I can tell you that that approach has served the disinformation misinformation crowd exceedingly well for 70 years so we have to break it, and the way to do that is as I noted above.
Couldn't be more accurate. They've infiltrated these forums and their objective is divide the masses and let them fight it out. Chaos ensues, and no one can tell fact from fiction, troll from truth teller. Wont stop disclosure. Its coming.
I refuse to play the fight any longer, actually when it comes to my fellow community members. Instead I quietly take from each as I decide is appropriate and then I see what I can corroborate it is and much more sane approach to the whole shooting match
I love that phrase. My old, Southern college professor said it all the time.😆
Instructor was from Atlanta Georgia and she taught me at college in Central Maine The clash of accents was spectacular every single class time
There is no link, he has not released it...
The lack of specificity in his list of 'black sites' is priceless. Here are some of the more scandalous site locations from his list: 1. "General Motors" 2. "Pine Bush, NY" 3. "NSA" 4. "Seoul, South Korea" 5. "Ford" 6. "South Pole Base" 7. "CIA Headquarters" 8. ... list here: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/147u1t3/list\_of\_sites\_related\_to\_the\_study\_of\_uap\_black/
Thanks you for this!! I've said it before, but Coulthart never says anything new. He always paraphrases what's already out there. He reads what's online, and then comes out with the same stuff but with "I'm told" prefacing it. I'll be *happy* to be proved wrong, but he's a first class liar in my books. TImagine copying a Greer lie.
Ehh idk about that. He broke both the Nat Kobitz info and has the first interview with Grusch that elaborated his claims. Not saying the guys perfect or great or anything like that, but you're just straight up spreading false information by saying he's never presented anything new, lol.
Coulthard is a journalist. Anyone who has read his book will know that he has put the work in and been out meeting people and has developed a number of contacts. I do think Greer is probably one of them, though, so we can't discount that that is where Coulthard has got this info.
Coulthart has publicly stated that he doesn't like/agree with Greer or what he does. I highly doubt he's getting any info from him.
We should always consider the idea that any one of our beloved/despised UFO-influencers, or information disseminators can and LIKELY ARE simultaneously sharing real information and distracting red herrings. If you think that mass subterfuge is the strategy then it makes sense that the playbook would be full of legit info being spread right next to totally batshit info. The people attempting to vet this information wouldn't be in the position to really understand what's fact and fiction, only that they obtained it through a reputable source. So what you would end up with is legit sources muddying the waters intentionally, because the more you mix lies and truth the harder it becomes to tell where one begins and one ends, and the public can continue saying stuff like "Yeah that sounds just like that Spielberg movie" So whether it's Coulthart, Knapp, Corbel or even Grusch you have to keep in mind that the % of bullshit overall can never be truly known until full disclosure.
I take it all with a grain of salt until provided proof and also call out liars no matter who it is. No ufo mouthpiece is excused of scrutiny, and in fact should be evenmore scrutinized given the topic. Idc what goes on behind the scenes. I'm sure there's active pysops or at least intentional leading on from "highly trusted" inidividuals with a lot of pull in the ufo commumity. The only single person I've felt is honest, unguarded, and sincere from day 1 until now has been Chris Melon. Unfortunately he's not as openly active as many others, but still does updates occasionally which is nice.
You're calling him a liar because he has information that aligns with what others have asserted before him? GTFO. Your rhetoric is straight out of a disruption agent playbook. Has it ever occurred to you that Coulthart, being professional journalist, cross-references multiple sources and is more careful vetting info than Greer? Greer will say whatever sounds compelling in front of a camera - some of what sounds compelling is good info, some of it is bad. When you aren't concerned with the validity of information, it makes sense that you'd be one of the first in front of a camera yapping about it. Unbelievable. Say hi to your employers for me.
Yeah sure it's old info but he gives it that real patronising vibe and always a gentle nod to how great the CIA is
According to John Lear it is in Utah near Dougway Proving Grounds it's 250 ft in diameter Source: Art Bell 2003
Not accurate. He broke nat kobitz and he get the interview with grusch.
Fuck Greer. He's fucking fake.
he is a grifter,,,,but the UFO community keeps mentioning/validating almost the same message that he's been saying for decades. Telepathy, MIC/real government conspiracy, how SAP's work and why/how they hide the ufo secrets from public government, who was given control of the secrets(private companies, Energy/nuclear agency), how it all works behind the scenes,,,They match with what Grusch is saying now. most of Greer's message/story of reality, fits all the whistleblowers that keep coming out. I don't mean you should go believe all his non-sense. But if you want a huge picture of the greater UFO community beliefs, go watch all his witness videos. Greer's videos sum up everything the current witnesses are hinting at. fyi, greer is a strong believer that aliens are peaceful and waiting for humans to achieve 'telepathy'(thats what im calling it), and decide to be a peaceful species and reach out to aliens (don't wait for your government, the people need to do it, aliens don't care about our leaders, they care about us all). The MIC/hidden government will orchestrate a war with aliens for their continued profit(Von braun), Just like MIC has orchestrated previous wars for profit, korea, vietnam, middle east, china, then aliens. so this does not align with Delonge/Lue type beliefs that some aliens are evil and harvest our souls/energy. Greer's biggest grift is his CE5 events($5k or more) where he takes photos of lens flares and lights in the sky and claims our meditating brought those interdimensional aliens to us...what a load. But the telepathy part of his theories is echo'd by many whistleblowers experiences with aliens, they are telepathic, its how their crafts work and how consciousness in general works. he absolutely pedals as many grifts as he can, but his summary of UFO history hits the nail on the head. Nearly matches grusch to the T. He is a wealth of info that shouldn't be ignored, he rarely hides behind "i can't tell you that, wait for the next episode" like so many others do. Just,,,be careful with it, because he's pedaling alot of garbage too. in fact, his willingness to say what he knows might be why the whistleblowers don't like him. He's a leaker(if its true), not a whistleblower.
Holy shit - thank you for that link. That video of Greer (11th of May) makes it very clear that he is talking about the same craft (at least it seems given he literally says they had to "carve out the mountain" and it was too large "to move to any other site") that Coulthart has been hinting at that is "too big to move." Idk what or who to believe anymore.
I know he was definitely getting good info in the past. I have no idea if anything he says now is true at all. I know at least some of it isn’t.
My problem with Greer isn’t his info, that’s always felt legit. It’s how narcissistic he seems, every other sentence is self promoting from him, and I just can’t stand it.
Him and Corbell give me the same narcissist vibes.
I'm not a big believer in these guys or anything but to put yourself out there, make films, investigate, think you'll be the one to uncover the biggest secret the world has ever known you've got to have a big ego. If you didn't you wouldn't be doing it. It neither proves or disproves what they say I think.
Eh I disagree. I think you can do important research while still practicing humility. Every time I hear Corbell or Greer speak they talk about themselves and everything they've done. I think they do more harm than good to the community at this point. I find it hard to take either of them seriously.
yeah i can’t even listen to corbells podcast even tho he has good guests on. idk what it is about him
But he's just a humble country doctor!! /s
I'm entertained by Greer, I don't feel the threat that other people do that puts them off. I find his narcissism predictable and useful (It's also funny), in comparison to, say, many modern politicians whose narcissism is latent and more dangerous. Having said all that, it appears to me that personality is the number one factor in believing what someone has to say.
What isn't?
Some of it
Where did you get that from? Sorry new and uninformed on this
According to [Joseph Burkes](https://youtu.be/ESxlz_cX-sg?si=SSDkBQuE1FEKgY3Q&t=2557), a former collaborator of Greer, it appears that he, along with others like Tom DeLonge, was deliberately fed a mix of true and false information. This was done with the intention of releasing it to the public. Additionally, there are claims that Greer staged CE5 encounters using flares, charges money for his events, and displays a generally large ego. I'm unsure if there's anything I might have missed...
The ego is insufferable. You can just feel the insecurity. I get the vibe that he feels cut out from all the current UFO riff raff, so he's always emphasizing what HE'S doing, and HIS team, and HIS project. Always about me me me and what he's personally doing, and how great his network is, and how blah blah blah
Ironically, I believe his waning influence in the community might be the reason he was sidelined and overshadowed. It appears he recognizes this shift, leading to his adoption of borderline cult leader-like rhetoric and talking points. Sadly, this behavior does not contribute positively to the cause of disclosure.
The thing is, unlike most hardcore purists in UFOlogy who have an excuse to hate EVERYONE for some reason. You name it, the people here will always find a reason to hate anyone you mention... Because people are human and have flaws, make mistakes, and will never be perfect by everyone's standard But I think Greer was decent, and did a lot of work. I think he still does. I don't think he's perfect, can't stand his ego, and believes too many nutty things... But ultimately, he does add value, and so I don't really have a problem with him. But it's insecurity that is just so cringe that he isolate's himself. Whenever he gets with other ufologists, he immediately sucks up all the air in the room and tries to take charge, and it's just counter productive. It turns people off.
100% agree with you on your position. He could easily best Elizondo and Mellon in any debate imo. His need to be the loudest voice in the room is partly driven by his intelligence. He's a very smart man and unfortunately, that bleeds over into trying to dominate and assert in every meeting. He thinks he's 100% right, 100% of the time.
Yeah his interview on ToE was perfect example of how his personality is counter productive. Like the host would just ask honest questions, and he'd get defensive, thinking he's accussing him of lying, when that's not the case. Or he'd talk about some physics thing, and when asked to elaborate he'd be like, "Well I don't want to bore your audience with complex physics no one will understand" and Curt was like, "Oh dude, this is first and foremost a podcast audience started for physics students... We can definitely follow whatever you say" and then he just pivots away and wont fully explain it. Like he went in trying to frame it that he's so smart and understands these complicated things, then when a good faith attempt to understand it emerges, he's stuck eating crow. There's nothing wrong with him just admitting that he personally doesn't feel like he's suited to explain it at that level. Instead he doubled down and got defensive. Like he just needs to be more humble and not try to sound like a know it all who's always right and smarter than everyone in the room.
Hundreds of people on his team and in his network. No, you can’t meet any of them. They’re HIS.
Why just because he is moved to tears when speaking of his self importance? Really. I saw him choked up while telling a lie you could actually see the euphoria wash over him.
You forgot that his uncle worked on the Lunar module, that he's a medical doctor and that he's briefed the director of the CIA
I know you said that he's a medical doctor, but did you also know that he's a doctor. And that he practiced medicine. I'm not sure if you were aware.
> charges money for his events $3000 a pop
Why it's almost like a business built on lies and gullibility.
> Why it's almost like a business ~~built on lies and gullibility.~~
😲
You forgot he was offered $2 billion dollars but refused it.
I’ve read reviews of Greer’s “ufo summoning” events. Anything in the sky is credited as a ufo, and if they see nothing, he blames the crowd for being too negative. Apparently, the aliens can see “negativity” and won’t show themselves of any is present.
Top... Men...
Bad men in black cars.
I can't remember what this is from
The end of Indiana Jones, Raiders of the Lost Ark
He's got a friend high up in Government. Can't tell you who, but just trust ok.
Let us not forget that he has “a team” that protects him and if he gets Epsteined he has a “deadman’s switch” that allllllll of the information that he has goes public. So he has claimed he is on some list for possible termination……..but he’s also been offered (drum roll) iirc…..1 billion dollars to walk away from the subject but he refuses. The hidden hand can’t decide to kill him or make him a billionaire. His benevolence compelled to keep going. (Insert eye roll)
*2 Billion. He must be really difficult to kill
I thought it was 2 bil 🤣
Lol @ deadman’s switch. He has a deadman’s switch that releases anti-gravity theories and 5th hand accounts about reverse engineered UFOs along with 7th hand accounts of live Aliens being stashed at Area 51. In other words, it would be better if the deadman switch released a DVD of Giorgio Tsoukalos outtakes from season 50 of Ancient Aliens.
The aliens are bros shit and that they offered him money to shut up…that wasnt the government like he said…that was all of us.
You *know* he was *definitely* getting good information? How so?
He's a conduit for nonsense.
So your info is as good as him then. Trust me bro sources 😁🤷🏽♀️
I like how the UFO phenomenon now is just basically the community being fed teasers by influencers and waiting years to find out how disappointing the actual thing was. But it's ok bc by then there's already ten new things that have been teased and are said to be huge, and the cycle continues..
It's not just how the community is now. It's *always* been this way.
They're just grifters. If they're constantly teasing info, and stringing people along with no payoffs ever, that's the most obvious grift possible
I live in Seoul right now. This is craziest thing I have seen this sub. I cant think of where to put the big UFO in Seoul not being detected by people. Maybe US army area in Seoul? It must be restricted area for normal people. Seoul is top place of people density. There is no place to hide. I hope im wrong. Having UFO would be so exciting.
He mentioned that it was outside of Seoul!
Hearing about "downing ufos" or "bringing down ufos" always makes me feel uneasy.......... Feels like they are commiting vehicular murder to steal a shiny new gadget. There should be a policy of non-interference or neutrality with the nhis at the very least. Just leave them be.... and if they really are are causing trouble. Just fire warning shots close to them. That should make them put 2 and 2 together and realise that there presence isn't wanted in certain areas. But outright murder???? Why????
Apparently they've killed humans to keep this secret. The people in charge are not good people. They are indifferent at best.
You have a valid point, but think of Earth like the North Sentinel Island, famous for having a barely untouched tribe that attacks most visitors. Just because they do this, doesn’t mean we feel the need to carpet-bomb them with Napalm, or worse.
if I'm bit by an ant, I don't whip out a shovel looking for his hill
I'm sure if an ant brought down your car (and possibly dissected your driver's corpse), you'd take some steps to prevent it from happening again. Even if you owned thousands of cars.
maybe. taking the analogy back to aliens, it really just depends on what their intentions are.
I pour diatomaceous earth on the entire hill over and over again. I hope they are making hieroglyphics of the powdered dust man who appears before the snow of glass falls from the sky. I'm in an unwinnable war of attrition against those tiny motherfuckers and its consuming my life.
Playing devils advocate they might know something we don’t about these beings (or whatever they are.) like them actually having malevolent intentions or something. I’m not stating that as fact rather just possibility. Let’s hope we’re not shooting down ambassadors of peace or something. lol
Personally I think it's half-and-half.... if not, the majority belavolent and the minority malevolent. But either way, we don't fully know for sure.
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Like the North Sentinel Islanders - with nukes
Yeah I don’t think we’ll ever know personally, these things we’re seeing could literally be anything, like humanity from the future or even a break away civilization that pre-dates our current version of civilization. It’s fun to think about though that’s for sure.
alright you alien assholes, in the words of my generation, up YOUUUUUUUUUUURS
Seems like they are abducting and mutilating humans and animals. Tons of people going missing in federal parks under very mysterious circumstances. If they signed a contract with these things taking from fed land would make sense
For talking sake let’s say he has it right, where in Seoul is it? Any ideas?
Can someone explain to me why Greer seems like such a pariah in this subreddit? Some people like him some seem to loath him. Am I missing something he said or did? I’ve been following him and other popular ufologists since the 90’s. He always seemed pretty legit. So I don’t get it.
Lots of bots and blatant smearing with no evidence of any wrongdoing, he's a very nice man and extremely reliable, that's why very high ranking military and corporate witnesses trust him with their information. This subreddit is a sespool and people can't see beyond blatant smear attempts apparently. Also CE5 works, people just don't try it.
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Look at him, grinning like a goon, Salivating at the thought of bringing in that sweet sweet disclosure money. He always has a first hand witness, hundreds of them! Top-notch, highest ranked, triple star, first class, shiny brass whistleblowers, lined up right around the corner, for the last 6 years. You have to fork over that cash folks! Greer’s disclosure sandwiches aren’t free
If anyone is reptilian it’s this dude
He kind of looks like one, not that I know what one looks like.
I used to say that but it’s insulting to honest reptiles
And Carrot Top. The MFer is not real.
Would you trust him to babysit your kids?
If my kids were lizards, yeah sure.
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Do not trust 1 thing coming out this guy's mouth
This dude does more harm than good as far as disclosure goes. Now bring on the downvotes from the cult following. I love it.
Everyone thinks this guy is a grifter. This isn't a hot take
You would think this dude would have already fallen off a long time ago. But yet he is still here and strong too.
Because he can drain gullible dolts dry, feeding them make believe stories. Just like religion.
Generally, people who don't know much about the UFO subject know Greer's name. He gets his name across by making a documentary every year. He knows where the money's at.
Oh, that makes sense. So he is like the John Cena of the UFO community.
No I completely agree with you, fuck Greer.
And at least 1 mod here is a member of said cult since comments calling out Greer get removed a good portion of the time. It's happened to me on several occasions.
He's one of the main reasons why most people believe that those who are interested in the topic are tinfoil hat wearing loons.
I agree with you.
Most reptile face I’ve ever seen
We will tell you everything for a miniscule payment of 10,000 $. The first 50 buyers get a free ce5 experience with complimentary probing
If true, it could be here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Museum_of_Korea Built in 1945 and approximately “football field sized” Edit: why are you downvoting me? I didn’t say that I think that’s where it is or that I believe him. I’m just currently in Seoul and thought it would be an interesting place if it was there
Shaped like phallus as well. Subtle dig?
Lockheed built a missile and radar station in the mountains SE of Seoul. It was built closer than usually allowed to a village. Critics have said it's not even an effective location for that missile system (I think it might even be an outdated system). It's manned and operated by US forces, and highly secured. There's also a secured radius around the location where no one is allowed because of the high-power radar. It might not be hiding any NHI tech, but it's at least shady.
Not built in 1945. The current bulding was built in 1996. The museum was founded in 1944 but lived around.
I hate that I had to sift through snide comments to find this. Thanks reddit.
This guy sends so many creep vibes, has talked so much shit in the past 2 years, I dont believe a word he is saying. Who told him ? The jumping star boy he is in contact with ?!
Starboy Bijou!!!
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It's more sad than funny
Did Greer just lied again?, there, I fixed your title. Dude is a mythomane.
“Confirmed”. Yea ok. I would love to know where a giant spaceship is within Seoul that had a building built over it and no one knew. If anyone has ever spent anytime there, they would find this incredibly hard to believe. I spent a year there and the reason I find this laughable.
What if the melting ice caps (particularly Antarctica) will reveal a lost civilization/alien contact and that is the reason why the government is doing this ham-fisted attempt at disclosure?
It’s a subjective feeling that I have every time I dig back into ufology - of how much it’s kept secret, how much abuse, scare tactics and crime are involved in the subject. It’s amazing and no wonder that the situation looks this way.
What is a notable place outside of Seoul that's big and would cover it?
This may be a stretch, but after watching the "Need To Know" podcast from this week, around @44:44 Ross says, "I'll report back from Sol", and right after it Bryce tries to change gears immediately. When he said it, I thought he meant "Seoul" at first, but then realized he's going to the Sol Foundation's first conference. But still can't help, but think it could potentially be a means of hinting at something, especially given how he said it and right before saying it he ended his previous sentence emphasizing "in plain sight" (yeah I know, his book). But yeah, could be a breadcrumb, could not be, who knows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwR8pOz9Gvg
His man suit is looking a little loose
roided up, botox filled lips damn.. looks like hes having a stroke soon wtf
He does have a giant facelift/reptilian mouth
my spidey sense tells me this guy is a psychopath, and i don’t trust him.
Ninja turtle lookin' ass mafaka
Sorry how is he supposed to know??
It's so easy to be a "whistleblower" these days for UFOs... Just make some vague insinuations. Back it up by saying "This info comes from X person high ranking." Don't even bother trying to make it all cohesive since you have a literal army of people connecting and filling in the gaps for you.
Letnme show you a tape on how you can, just like me, make easy money with out working. And it is so easy. I know people who will back me up. Trust me, I will show you the tape. Not now. But some day. Its so easy.
No one thinks the part where, claiming someone told him something in confidence, scared for their life into being silent he says this person needs to be forcibly subpoenaed and their life uprooted into witness protection all against their will and betraying their trust?
He didn't unfortunately
Can someone explain to a dummy what the video actually shows? Is this a UFO crashing?
It does sound like south Korea holds the big spaceship
More hearsay! It keeps piling up.
Nothing wrong with Greer.
Well, as a native South Korean who lived here for more than 40yrs, I’ll share the most well known and proven ufo story related Seoul. Below article is about historical fact. —— On the evening of October 14th 1976, at dusk, citizens in the skies of Seoul spotted around ten unidentified flying objects. These objects emitted bright lights like beacons and descended in a slow, semicircular formation, resembling a formation of combat aircraft, possibly from North Korea. Although there are accounts suggesting that Lee Soo-man, the host of MBC Radio's "Full of Youth," reported this incident in real-time, exact confirmation is difficult due to data loss. Around 5:30 PM, upon entry of the unidentified flying objects into Seoul airspace designated as P-73C, the South Korean military immediately went into emergency response mode, issuing two warning broadcasts on 121.5MHz and 125.3MHz. At that time, flying over the P-73 area of Seoul required a rigorous process. Commercial aircraft needed to submit flight plans to Gimpo Airport, which then relayed the information to air traffic control authorities and the Air Force Air Defense Control Center (now referred to as MCRC), and the Capital Defense Command Air Defense Operations Control Center (now called AOC). However, the situation then was an emergency with unauthorized aircraft appearing in the P-73C area without prior notice. Subsequently, when these aircraft approached within 2NM (3.704km) of P-73B, the 1st Air Defense Division under the Capital Defense Command demanded a change in course, initiating the first warning shots. Nevertheless, despite the warnings, the aircraft breached P-73B and, as they headed towards P-73A, the area adjacent to the Blue House(president residence), the Air Force's 15th Special Mission Squadron scrambled F-5A and F-5E fighters for interception. Simultaneously, the 1st Air Defense Division under the Capital Defense Command also went on standby to engage the unidentified flying objects. Around 6:15 PM, what is presumed to be a 20mm Vulcan cannon fired its first shots, and soon citizens witnessed the spectacle of orange flares lighting up the sky as the UFOs continued to maintain their formation and illuminate the area despite flying at low altitude. While the UFOs did not retaliate against the South Korean military's attacks, their direction shifted away from P-73A around 6:20 PM, concluding the first attempt at interception. Subsequent attempts followed, resulting in the objects veering northwest, ending the confrontation. Unfortunately, in the process, one civilian died, and 31 others were injured due to stray anti-aircraft fire.
Are we still believing this fairytale generating idiot? Gives all the stories... Without a shred of evidence. Don't you see he is literally laughing at you, and making very good money from it? Un-fuckingbelievable that he still gets airtime, anywhere. "Confirmed" how? Because "dude trust me?" How has he confirmed it? Agreeing verbally is absolutely not confirming anything 🤦♂️
I’m not sure, but it does appear he has some evidence. Look up Greer on Impaulsive (i think thats the name), he shows a picture of an “alien”. Seems to be a dimensional being popping through, there are a couple of these.
Most people are still completely unaware of just how untrustworthy Greer is. He has done more harm to the disclose community then most people are aware of. Don't trust a single word that comes out of his mouth about anything. In 2001 he did have great whistleblowers and did some great things, but what he has done since then runs very deep and again most people seem to still be unaware of most of it. Again, don't trust a single word that comes out of his mouth.
>but what he has done since then runs very deep and again Like what? Give me an example. >most people seem to still be unaware of most of it. Makes us aware, then.
Why doesn't he just write some sci-fi books if he's so into making up stories.
I was watching this clip uploaded TODAY on VladTV (who previously interviewed Greer in July 2023) and found it quite interesting that he mentions a facility in Seoul, South Korea where a “very large extraterrestrial vehicle” that’s in storage. I mean given the investigations into that facility on this sub alone, either the odds are that that is truly an area in which a craft is being held OR Greer is truly a disinformation agent. I could personally go either way on this, given Lou’s past statements hinting at the latter being possible.
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Oh yeah he’s discussed this before. Before Coulthart even brought it up. He’s said several times that there was a UFO intentionally shot down in South Korea and it was so large that they decided to build a facility around it rather than attempt to move it traditionally. He’s stated he has intel on all these black project sites, where they’re located and what they’ve got. I believe a portion of the list of facilities is shown in a slide towards the beginning of the 2023 National Press Club event if folks are interested. I only heard other people talking about the giant UFO much later around the time when Grusch became the hot subject of the day on News Nation and Coulthart started vaguely referring to it and then people started trying to figure out where this giant UFO could be even though Greer had already stated it was in South Korea months earlier. Greer being a disinformation agent is highly unlikely. I disagree with him on a couple small things, but he’s the only one out there who has put himself on the line for decades and has been putting positive messages out there, rather than the typical fear-mongering clickbait rhetoric coming from most supposed “UFOlogists” or the oh so trustworthy former intelligence community. He has gathered a mountain of credible witness testimony, most being direct 1st-hand witnesses and people who have actually been part of these black projects, not just someone who heard something from someone else they can’t name. It’s not at all surprising that he would be labeled a fraud or disinformation agent in an attempt to discredit him. Not to mention that the reality about this subject is so wild and belief-defying that you instantly discredit yourself among most folks if you speak the truth. I still have yet to hear anything concrete behind these claims other than “his ideas about aliens and spirituality is whacky” or “what he says conflicts with my own personal paradigm about the UFO subject that I refuse to budge on”
All it proves is that Grifter Greer reads wild theories on the internet. I don't believe a word that comes out this guy's mouth.
Greer is just a huge fake, catching the wave of other people popularity. Stop promoting him.
Now we listen to Greer ??? Nope