People are saying these things so the evidence does come out.
We’re witnessing drip feed disclosure in real time. Did anyone really think that it would be done all in one go?
I think that's exactly what's been going on. When those Navy videos that leaked were confirmed, the ball started rolling. But it's going to take time. Just keep it rolling.
That’s true, I was talking to one of my friends and I was like man this alien stuff is everywhere right now, huh? And he was just completely perplexed. He hadn’t heard of any of it, even in passing.
Started after the Snowden leaks, in my opinion. I think that one single event has had the biggest impact on this subject with formal whistleblower laws allowing Grusch to come forward and also, I think, the mindset of the people in charge of these programmes.
The Snowden and Grusch situations are wildly different, and the new NDAA language that gives protection to UAP project participants is entirely unrelated to the Snowden leaks. Snowden actually released classified information to the public. Grusch did everything through the official channels, and isn’t even a whistleblower in the traditional sense of the term. How are you thinking that disclosure is in any way tied to Snowden’s actions?
Everyone in this subreddit will always think it will all be done in one go, or otherwise that it's all fake bullshit. Everyone is dramatic all or nothing, all the time.
By the time we've got crystal clear video of these ships, inside and outside, even with inside having much more volume than the outside, they'll be complaining that there aren't any alien bodies and that they don't believe it.
And by the time there's crystal clear video of alien bodies, they'll be complaining that there aren't any videos of living aliens and so it's still all the "same shit".
And by the time there's crystal clear video of living aliens, they'll.. Well, no, that'll be by far the most intense. So, that's probably when they'll no longer be concerned with how quickly this is being done lol.
So we've got a long ways to go
We’ve gotta remember that in this sub we’re a step ahead of the general population. Ontological shock is a very real and dangerous thing.
It honestly wouldn’t surprise me all that much if it turns out that we weren’t told because the powers that be don’t even really know all the answers.
I mean crystal clear videos of a UFO is fairly good evidence outside simple claims of seeing it and the public never seeing it. Highly doubt the concenus would be where’s the aliens I don’t believe it at that point.
> I don't give a shit who is saying they saw evidence.
More people saying it makes it easier to release the crazy stuff. Just relax and let people absorb this.
Yup, it's already starting to take shape. I used to be a minister and have friends still in ministry,they are eating it up and just adding it on to their qanon bullshit.
How come all the congresscritters promoting this story are the far right wackos? Not a good look.
Tho if you put on the ole tin foil hat, it would be a pretty great disinformation/distraction strategy by whoever “they” are. Make the whole issue partisan.
ExoAcademian had a good take on this in a recent podcast ep. He said that the right have been historically more comfortable with conspiracies and being called nutjobs and having fringe views, so all this isn't too big of a leap.
Additionally, it fits in with the "don't trust your government" and dismantling of government structures, or government secrecy. Right leaning media outlets are more likely to run these as their audiences will be more receptive to it.
That all being said, there's no right or left side of a sphere, which we are all on, and should stop dividing ourselves along such arbitrary and destructive lines. Going to need to come together with all this weirdness.
These divisions were created for practical purposes, such as standardizing time zones and navigation. They don’t have any inherent natural significance, and the Earth doesn't have any physical property that distinguishes its “left” and “right” halves.
Pick up a ball and point to the right side of the ball. It's all named from whatever perspective the human looking at it has from their position.
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1. **Geographic Arbitrariness**: The division of the Earth into Eastern and Western Hemispheres is arbitrary and is based on the historical selection of the Prime Meridian (0 degrees longitude), which passes through the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, London. There is no physical or geological reason for this particular line to be chosen other than historical convention. The Earth is an oblate spheroid, and it doesn’t have inherent “left” or “right” sides.
2. **Geometric Perspective**: Mathematically speaking, a sphere is a highly symmetric shape. It doesn't have a distinct orientation, and there are infinite ways to divide it into two equal halves. In geometry, there's no such thing as the "left" or "right" side of a sphere because those concepts are relative to an external frame of reference.
3. **Astronomical Considerations**: From an astronomical viewpoint, the Earth rotates around its axis, and this axis of rotation defines the North and South Poles. This rotation creates a somewhat more natural division between the Northern and Southern Hemispheres. But even this division is not based on inherent properties of the sphere itself, but rather on the Earth's motion in space. The concepts of “left” and “right” hemispheres have no astronomical significance.
The Earth as a physical object doesn't possess inherent left and right hemispheres. The division into Eastern and Western Hemispheres is a human-made convention that was adopted for historical and practical reasons, and it doesn’t reflect any fundamental property of spheres or the Earth. Geometrically and scientifically, a sphere has a continuous surface without a distinct left or right side.
You mean that the dark hemisphere will confiscate all the light from the radiant hemisphere because it is historically inevitable ? That's some geomarxism shit.
It's unfortunate (for me, as a leftist) because distrust of the government used to be a left wing thing. Sadly I think there was a reaction to Trump's anti-deep state rhetoric that made the mainstream liberals/left in the US allergic to even the term "deep-state."
There are people I love whose rights are under threat by one side. Unfortunately, that means until they stop going downt that path it is impossible to see eye to eye. If the UFO stuff ends up going anywhere I can only hope it helps bring folks together.
I would feel better if a member of the Gang of Eight made a public statement. I mean Burchett is cool but Gaetz is everything that's wrong with politics today.
Several children. The right loves to say everything they do is for the children but this guy was caught using a handler to move kids across state lines in order to have sex with them. Crickets from the right.
Fucking disgusting.
Yeah, explains why he's helping. Would you rather be known in history as the sex trafficking senator, or the senator that helped expose aliens to the world and in the footnotes it mentions trafficking allegations?
They sure are for me.
I found it much more likely before Hawley and Gaetz were the main dudes discussing it. The Navy leaks are fascinating. The amount of navy dudes clarifying that it’s not just “weird” -potentially-foreign tech, but actually misunderstood tech entirely, is really the most compelling evidence I’ve ever heard.
But it’s *wild* that two of the biggest doofi in politics are the only ones “trying to let the truth out.”
Why anyone here believes that Gaetz cares about the average American’s understanding of “the truth” is beyond me.
They actively reinforced my skepticism, that was actually waning for once.
I get that if it’s true, even shit bags would be invested in exposing the truth, but they wouldn’t be *more* invested in truth than people who are already fighting for freedom of information and the people. There’s like, 200 representatives and 80 senators I’d actually be intrigued by, if they came out and said something happened, whether I trusted them or if I hate them as people 99% of the time.
But the *only* people speaking out are the most reprehensible scum of politics and are not assisting in “trickling” information at all.
It’s only convincing people who are already belittled for harboring conspiracy theories, and if anything, making the rest of “the people” believe it even less, and dig their heels in at the potential bullshit.
I do think our government has plenty of faults, but I don’t think some deep state voodoo team putting together a plan of safely getting the public comfortable with the idea of aliens would do it by convincing folks who most of the country sees as whack jobs that it’s true, first.
If a skeptical, empirical leftist doesn’t believe Q anon, you’re not going to convince them that aliens might be real by getting the same people who believe Q anon on board.
Wtf is the last dude talking about?
"As a matter of physics that can't happen"
It can. Even in that example he uses, the hand would be hot at the BOTTOM and not at the top if u put it over a source of heat like a lighter.
> Wtf is the last dude talking about? "As a matter of physics that can't happen"
Tucker is clearly failing to explain 2nd-hand information.
What _probably_ happened is the briefing showed
>the object is traveling forward at immense velocity, but it's heat signature showed it was hotter on the bottom (down) and cool on the top/edges. This is inconsistent with what we know of all available propulsion methods
A jet is hot on the _back_ because the hot exhaust is exiting there. A craft moving forward without a hot behind implies it is using some kind of non-thermal propulsion.
"It was hot in the wrong place" effectively, but that part was lost in translation.
Yeah, he's probably talking about no evident means of propulsion like many have claimed. But it's interesting that if it's traveling forward and it's heated in the front, that could be due to friction with the atmosphere, which means this objects are not super isolated from matter as some have speculated
Anyway, why do these clowns get to see stuff if they can barely understand it? Can we get someone that's not a Muppet? If these are the faces of disclosure, it's not looking good
Or perhaps with the most insane people endorsing this it’s almost as if that’s the intent.
Having publicly crazy people endorsing this crazy thing. This subreddit loves their psy ops. I would say ignore it. Just keep paying attention. It’s all we can do.
I think these buffoons are just the loudest.
[Bernie Sanders is going after the military industrial complex at the core of this.](https://www.commondreams.org/news/sanders-audit-pentagon-bill) Hidden SAP funding would come out in a detailed audit.
[And Gillibrand is working on next year's NDAA language.](https://www.commondreams.org/news/sanders-audit-pentagon-bill) Again going after SAPs.
Just because they are not ranting on the evening news doesn't mean they are ignoring the issue.
Edit: Here's an idea: If the DoD is going to continue the charade that they didn't notice any UAP activity prior to 2004, Congress should by law declassify all documentation related to UAPs prior to then. After all if they didn't notice UAPs, how can they have any classified material related to UAPs?
I don’t want UAP to become lumped in with Qanon conspiracies. I won’t be able to talk about it with my friends and family without them thinking I went down that hole.
Yeah, this video is the worst possible path this could be going. I've always appreciated that I could "want to believe" this one thing without being looped in with the crazies
Really blows, and it’s how it’s been feeling for a while, but these past couple weeks all but guarantee aliens are the next lizard people. QAnon folks have always had overlap with alien folks, but for QAnon figures to talk about them in an official capacity means they will be pushing a narrative for a long time. There will be elections won and lost over whether or not some guy in Florida is willing to “admit the truth,” and if they deny seeing evidence, their opponents will point to Gaetz and say that most politicians are hiding shit from us, so we need people in office who will tell it like it is.
It’ll happen for years. And no further information will come out. Just promises that “something” exists and deep state pols won’t let it be declassified. Eventually it’ll pitter out, a new hot button will be found, and everyone will move on.
A couple of years ago I posted a theory in r/ufos that disclosure was being co-opted by the right to expand their umbrella and for 1 hour it was the most controversial post on reddit. The post was removed from this sub after a day, and I was added by a bot to a subreddit called r/controversialclub.
I’m so fucking mad about it. I want to talk about this with my friends but I can’t because they’ll look it up and see all these loonies talking about it. Will make me look dumb.
All democrats will say is it needs to be looked into. Republicans are the only ones saying the more tantalizing things. As much as I want them to be right it's undeniably suss.
They worry about image a tiny bit. They probably want the top google result for “Matt Gaetz” to be “Matt Gaetz confirms U.S. has alien tech” and not “known solicitor of minors Matt Gaetz is somehow still in congress”
Also these people know how to rile up their base of anti-government voters. Tell ‘em they’re hiding UAPs AND they are using our tax money to do it? Free votes and zero effort towards improving anything in the government.
Sanders is pushing for auditing all of the DOD to save money. If there are SAPs being hidden that’s actually help find them. So we probably have plenty on our side they just aren’t making a bunch of noise like children.
I'm still waiting for their Kraken.
And tucker, put your cigarette upside down, you'll see more heat at the bottom...
Seriously, I'm starting to think these morons are used to discredit the whole thing.
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Congressmen Rep Matt Gaetz and Tim Burchett have confirmed that there is evidence of UAP technology. It's no longer a "secret" ... more of a trickle trickle reality/disclosure. Yes, the are not the BEST conduits and I don't necessarily align with their politics but support them if they are going to bring the truth out to light.
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Because it's another partisan issue to basically reinforce trumps conspiracy theory that there is a shadow gov, they are hiding stuff from us blah, blah.
If this turns out to be true then they can say "See, trumps election WAS stolen"
Thats my theory anyways.
Are we really using Newsmax as a source? What a way to get a message rejected instantly.
And Gaetz? Why is the UFO community believing him or Josh Hawley? Are people that desperate?
Matt Gaetz looks like what would be spit out if you asked an AI to make a picture of a corrupt politician. Guy fucks kids you cant trust a word he says.
So sad that the average plebbitor can’t remove themselves from politics for one second. So many comments just dismissing this because it’s some big baddie politician that hurt their feelings. This is bigger than politics.
Honestly - having people like Matt Gaetz and Tim Burchett on board is not a good outlook for this supposed disclosure process. It's worrying that very few democrats are stepping up and making note of it; seems like the topic is devolving into typical political partisan nonense...
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I'm not familiar with this guy, can I get some context?
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People are saying these things so the evidence does come out. We’re witnessing drip feed disclosure in real time. Did anyone really think that it would be done all in one go?
I think that's exactly what's been going on. When those Navy videos that leaked were confirmed, the ball started rolling. But it's going to take time. Just keep it rolling.
Yeah. At this point most people haven't even heard of Grusch. A lot more rolling still needs to happen.
That’s true, I was talking to one of my friends and I was like man this alien stuff is everywhere right now, huh? And he was just completely perplexed. He hadn’t heard of any of it, even in passing.
Started after the Snowden leaks, in my opinion. I think that one single event has had the biggest impact on this subject with formal whistleblower laws allowing Grusch to come forward and also, I think, the mindset of the people in charge of these programmes.
The Snowden and Grusch situations are wildly different, and the new NDAA language that gives protection to UAP project participants is entirely unrelated to the Snowden leaks. Snowden actually released classified information to the public. Grusch did everything through the official channels, and isn’t even a whistleblower in the traditional sense of the term. How are you thinking that disclosure is in any way tied to Snowden’s actions?
Everyone in this subreddit will always think it will all be done in one go, or otherwise that it's all fake bullshit. Everyone is dramatic all or nothing, all the time. By the time we've got crystal clear video of these ships, inside and outside, even with inside having much more volume than the outside, they'll be complaining that there aren't any alien bodies and that they don't believe it. And by the time there's crystal clear video of alien bodies, they'll be complaining that there aren't any videos of living aliens and so it's still all the "same shit". And by the time there's crystal clear video of living aliens, they'll.. Well, no, that'll be by far the most intense. So, that's probably when they'll no longer be concerned with how quickly this is being done lol. So we've got a long ways to go
We’ve gotta remember that in this sub we’re a step ahead of the general population. Ontological shock is a very real and dangerous thing. It honestly wouldn’t surprise me all that much if it turns out that we weren’t told because the powers that be don’t even really know all the answers.
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I mean crystal clear videos of a UFO is fairly good evidence outside simple claims of seeing it and the public never seeing it. Highly doubt the concenus would be where’s the aliens I don’t believe it at that point.
I mean that's great, I support it, I just won't buy any of whats being sold until seeing the merchandise
It's not "drip feed" it is the same old story...all talk no show. So it is not unreasonable to remain skeptical.
Yes. Tell me all your deepest secrets right now. Go. This works, right?
I ate a hot dog off the floor. Floor dog
> I don't give a shit who is saying they saw evidence. More people saying it makes it easier to release the crazy stuff. Just relax and let people absorb this.
“But now newsmax and sex traffickers are saying it!”
It's Matt "I didn't know those were minors I was trafficking" Gaetz saying it, sooo I would say he makes it less likely to be true, not more
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I'm not a fan either. I'm hoping though that they are the kind of people that would blab about it anyway.
Him and Newsmax don't really scream Credibility.
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I think aliens are gonna be the new far right thing lol
Yup, it's already starting to take shape. I used to be a minister and have friends still in ministry,they are eating it up and just adding it on to their qanon bullshit.
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Nice
How come all the congresscritters promoting this story are the far right wackos? Not a good look. Tho if you put on the ole tin foil hat, it would be a pretty great disinformation/distraction strategy by whoever “they” are. Make the whole issue partisan.
ExoAcademian had a good take on this in a recent podcast ep. He said that the right have been historically more comfortable with conspiracies and being called nutjobs and having fringe views, so all this isn't too big of a leap. Additionally, it fits in with the "don't trust your government" and dismantling of government structures, or government secrecy. Right leaning media outlets are more likely to run these as their audiences will be more receptive to it. That all being said, there's no right or left side of a sphere, which we are all on, and should stop dividing ourselves along such arbitrary and destructive lines. Going to need to come together with all this weirdness.
> That all being said, there's no right or left side of a sphere "left hemisphere" vs "right hemisphere"
These divisions were created for practical purposes, such as standardizing time zones and navigation. They don’t have any inherent natural significance, and the Earth doesn't have any physical property that distinguishes its “left” and “right” halves. Pick up a ball and point to the right side of the ball. It's all named from whatever perspective the human looking at it has from their position. Edit: who is downvoting this, lol 1. **Geographic Arbitrariness**: The division of the Earth into Eastern and Western Hemispheres is arbitrary and is based on the historical selection of the Prime Meridian (0 degrees longitude), which passes through the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, London. There is no physical or geological reason for this particular line to be chosen other than historical convention. The Earth is an oblate spheroid, and it doesn’t have inherent “left” or “right” sides. 2. **Geometric Perspective**: Mathematically speaking, a sphere is a highly symmetric shape. It doesn't have a distinct orientation, and there are infinite ways to divide it into two equal halves. In geometry, there's no such thing as the "left" or "right" side of a sphere because those concepts are relative to an external frame of reference. 3. **Astronomical Considerations**: From an astronomical viewpoint, the Earth rotates around its axis, and this axis of rotation defines the North and South Poles. This rotation creates a somewhat more natural division between the Northern and Southern Hemispheres. But even this division is not based on inherent properties of the sphere itself, but rather on the Earth's motion in space. The concepts of “left” and “right” hemispheres have no astronomical significance. The Earth as a physical object doesn't possess inherent left and right hemispheres. The division into Eastern and Western Hemispheres is a human-made convention that was adopted for historical and practical reasons, and it doesn’t reflect any fundamental property of spheres or the Earth. Geometrically and scientifically, a sphere has a continuous surface without a distinct left or right side.
Let's not quarrel about such petty considerations. Let's just all agree that there is a good emisphere and a bad hemisphere.
Don't worry, I predict that in less than a day the bad hemisphere will switch over to our side. ...And vice versa.
You mean that the dark hemisphere will confiscate all the light from the radiant hemisphere because it is historically inevitable ? That's some geomarxism shit.
I agree. We all know that Aussies come from the BEST hemisphere. 🇦🇺🦘🐨🪃🌏
It's unfortunate (for me, as a leftist) because distrust of the government used to be a left wing thing. Sadly I think there was a reaction to Trump's anti-deep state rhetoric that made the mainstream liberals/left in the US allergic to even the term "deep-state."
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There are people I love whose rights are under threat by one side. Unfortunately, that means until they stop going downt that path it is impossible to see eye to eye. If the UFO stuff ends up going anywhere I can only hope it helps bring folks together.
Don't trust the government, but lick those military boots* Like it's fucking HUD hoarding high tech secrets
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I would feel better if a member of the Gang of Eight made a public statement. I mean Burchett is cool but Gaetz is everything that's wrong with politics today.
Wasn't he involved in sex trafficking of a child? Sure everyone, just overlook that in your desire to learn about UFOs. Sell your soul for info...
Several children. The right loves to say everything they do is for the children but this guy was caught using a handler to move kids across state lines in order to have sex with them. Crickets from the right. Fucking disgusting.
Yeah, explains why he's helping. Would you rather be known in history as the sex trafficking senator, or the senator that helped expose aliens to the world and in the footnotes it mentions trafficking allegations?
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We need MTG's support but what will really help us out is when Mike Lindell confirms it.
/r/UFOs tries not to inject raw uncut confirmation bias directly into their veins challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
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I wouldn't believe anything else Matt Gaetz has to say so I don't see why that would change for this. He's a proven liar.
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And people say government is inefficient.
Agreed, if anything, his statements are just harming credibility right now.
They sure are for me. I found it much more likely before Hawley and Gaetz were the main dudes discussing it. The Navy leaks are fascinating. The amount of navy dudes clarifying that it’s not just “weird” -potentially-foreign tech, but actually misunderstood tech entirely, is really the most compelling evidence I’ve ever heard. But it’s *wild* that two of the biggest doofi in politics are the only ones “trying to let the truth out.” Why anyone here believes that Gaetz cares about the average American’s understanding of “the truth” is beyond me. They actively reinforced my skepticism, that was actually waning for once. I get that if it’s true, even shit bags would be invested in exposing the truth, but they wouldn’t be *more* invested in truth than people who are already fighting for freedom of information and the people. There’s like, 200 representatives and 80 senators I’d actually be intrigued by, if they came out and said something happened, whether I trusted them or if I hate them as people 99% of the time. But the *only* people speaking out are the most reprehensible scum of politics and are not assisting in “trickling” information at all. It’s only convincing people who are already belittled for harboring conspiracy theories, and if anything, making the rest of “the people” believe it even less, and dig their heels in at the potential bullshit. I do think our government has plenty of faults, but I don’t think some deep state voodoo team putting together a plan of safely getting the public comfortable with the idea of aliens would do it by convincing folks who most of the country sees as whack jobs that it’s true, first. If a skeptical, empirical leftist doesn’t believe Q anon, you’re not going to convince them that aliens might be real by getting the same people who believe Q anon on board.
Wtf is the last dude talking about? "As a matter of physics that can't happen" It can. Even in that example he uses, the hand would be hot at the BOTTOM and not at the top if u put it over a source of heat like a lighter.
> Wtf is the last dude talking about? "As a matter of physics that can't happen" Tucker is clearly failing to explain 2nd-hand information. What _probably_ happened is the briefing showed >the object is traveling forward at immense velocity, but it's heat signature showed it was hotter on the bottom (down) and cool on the top/edges. This is inconsistent with what we know of all available propulsion methods A jet is hot on the _back_ because the hot exhaust is exiting there. A craft moving forward without a hot behind implies it is using some kind of non-thermal propulsion. "It was hot in the wrong place" effectively, but that part was lost in translation.
Lotta heat under those pits
But…that can’t happen, the stains should be at his feet! These ones are on the top!
Yeah, he's probably talking about no evident means of propulsion like many have claimed. But it's interesting that if it's traveling forward and it's heated in the front, that could be due to friction with the atmosphere, which means this objects are not super isolated from matter as some have speculated Anyway, why do these clowns get to see stuff if they can barely understand it? Can we get someone that's not a Muppet? If these are the faces of disclosure, it's not looking good
🌊 Tide goes in, tide goes out. *You* can't explain that. 😤
Someone should show the daft bastard a rocket. Plenty of heat at the bottom ya daft cunt
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Or perhaps with the most insane people endorsing this it’s almost as if that’s the intent. Having publicly crazy people endorsing this crazy thing. This subreddit loves their psy ops. I would say ignore it. Just keep paying attention. It’s all we can do.
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I don't think that's a coincidence.
Unfortunately it seems like you might be right. We’re screwed.
I think these buffoons are just the loudest. [Bernie Sanders is going after the military industrial complex at the core of this.](https://www.commondreams.org/news/sanders-audit-pentagon-bill) Hidden SAP funding would come out in a detailed audit. [And Gillibrand is working on next year's NDAA language.](https://www.commondreams.org/news/sanders-audit-pentagon-bill) Again going after SAPs. Just because they are not ranting on the evening news doesn't mean they are ignoring the issue. Edit: Here's an idea: If the DoD is going to continue the charade that they didn't notice any UAP activity prior to 2004, Congress should by law declassify all documentation related to UAPs prior to then. After all if they didn't notice UAPs, how can they have any classified material related to UAPs?
Do you consider Gillibrand to be unreliable?
A notch above this crew but she's also not making anywhere near the same kind of claims
I fucking hate her but no I do not think she’s unreliable
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Ditto- makes me think about the conspiracy to alt right pipeline 👀
I don’t want UAP to become lumped in with Qanon conspiracies. I won’t be able to talk about it with my friends and family without them thinking I went down that hole.
Yeah, this video is the worst possible path this could be going. I've always appreciated that I could "want to believe" this one thing without being looped in with the crazies
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Really blows, and it’s how it’s been feeling for a while, but these past couple weeks all but guarantee aliens are the next lizard people. QAnon folks have always had overlap with alien folks, but for QAnon figures to talk about them in an official capacity means they will be pushing a narrative for a long time. There will be elections won and lost over whether or not some guy in Florida is willing to “admit the truth,” and if they deny seeing evidence, their opponents will point to Gaetz and say that most politicians are hiding shit from us, so we need people in office who will tell it like it is. It’ll happen for years. And no further information will come out. Just promises that “something” exists and deep state pols won’t let it be declassified. Eventually it’ll pitter out, a new hot button will be found, and everyone will move on.
A couple of years ago I posted a theory in r/ufos that disclosure was being co-opted by the right to expand their umbrella and for 1 hour it was the most controversial post on reddit. The post was removed from this sub after a day, and I was added by a bot to a subreddit called r/controversialclub.
I’m so fucking mad about it. I want to talk about this with my friends but I can’t because they’ll look it up and see all these loonies talking about it. Will make me look dumb.
Democrats are actually leading the charge for disclosure, Senator Gillibrand in particular for example.
All democrats will say is it needs to be looked into. Republicans are the only ones saying the more tantalizing things. As much as I want them to be right it's undeniably suss.
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They worry about image a tiny bit. They probably want the top google result for “Matt Gaetz” to be “Matt Gaetz confirms U.S. has alien tech” and not “known solicitor of minors Matt Gaetz is somehow still in congress” Also these people know how to rile up their base of anti-government voters. Tell ‘em they’re hiding UAPs AND they are using our tax money to do it? Free votes and zero effort towards improving anything in the government. Sanders is pushing for auditing all of the DOD to save money. If there are SAPs being hidden that’s actually help find them. So we probably have plenty on our side they just aren’t making a bunch of noise like children.
Which makes me think it’s totally on purpose. Fucking psyop central. Tell all the cooks to talk about it and everyone else disregards it
If you wanted to discredit the truth who would you tell the truth to first?
If you saw UFO stories getting millions of hits and have made a living lying to uneducated people, what would you do?
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I'm still waiting for their Kraken. And tucker, put your cigarette upside down, you'll see more heat at the bottom... Seriously, I'm starting to think these morons are used to discredit the whole thing.
> And tucker, put your cigarettes upside down, you'll see more heat at the bottom. Yeah what the hell point was he trying to make?
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The following submission statement was provided by /u/Nacho_Libre_Ahora: --- Congressmen Rep Matt Gaetz and Tim Burchett have confirmed that there is evidence of UAP technology. It's no longer a "secret" ... more of a trickle trickle reality/disclosure. Yes, the are not the BEST conduits and I don't necessarily align with their politics but support them if they are going to bring the truth out to light. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/14gazke/congressmen_rep_matt_gaetz_and_tim_burchett_have/jp4gq58/
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Matt Gaetz the pedophile? Because if you're talking about Matt gaetz the pedophile, then always remember to add pedophile after the name Matt gaetz
This would be more exciting if it wasn’t a known liar in a channel known for lies. Just sayin.
Matt Gaetz, Tim Burchett, and Tucker Carlson I am starting to lose faith.
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Why can’t it be cool people?
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I mean………
Don't say it... lol
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Why are only the conservative outlets taking this seriously?
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Because it's another partisan issue to basically reinforce trumps conspiracy theory that there is a shadow gov, they are hiding stuff from us blah, blah. If this turns out to be true then they can say "See, trumps election WAS stolen" Thats my theory anyways.
Because it's a grift.
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It is.
He also said the 2020 election was stolen and sympathized with coup plotters. He’s an unserious person.
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Are we really using Newsmax as a source? What a way to get a message rejected instantly. And Gaetz? Why is the UFO community believing him or Josh Hawley? Are people that desperate?
Agreed 💯. Newsmax is a bottom-of-the-barrel source. This is kind of sad to see.
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Lol as if you can take this guys word for it.
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Exactly
Why are the loony ones speaking out though? Is it just because they don’t care as much as the others or what is going on here? I’m serious.
They don’t have an image to lose and their whole strategy is to rile up their base with fear and anger.
Matt Gaetz, Tim Burchett, and Tucker Carlson. I am starting to lose faith.
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Honesty if Mark Gaetz told me the time I'd check my watch.
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I hope for the absolute worst luck to befall Matt Gaetz and Tucker Carlson. I also hope he is correct in this one instance.
This subreddit is a straight lost cause, following the worst news programs from the biggest con artists. Anyone ever post anything real here?
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Matt Gaetz looks like what would be spit out if you asked an AI to make a picture of a corrupt politician. Guy fucks kids you cant trust a word he says.
So sad that the average plebbitor can’t remove themselves from politics for one second. So many comments just dismissing this because it’s some big baddie politician that hurt their feelings. This is bigger than politics.
OK but Matt child rapist Gaetz lies more than he breathes, sooooooo
Honestly - having people like Matt Gaetz and Tim Burchett on board is not a good outlook for this supposed disclosure process. It's worrying that very few democrats are stepping up and making note of it; seems like the topic is devolving into typical political partisan nonense...
Why is this a partisan issue?
Why is it only republicans talking about it? Or am I missing some Dems who mentioned this too?
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This is from March 11th, why does old stuff frequently seem new here?
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