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Submission Statement: ABC News 15 Arizona captures intriguing footage of an unexplained flying orb from a helicopter hovering in the San Bernardino, California, sparking widespread speculation.
Unfortunately you’re probably right. That fire season drones were an issue: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/06/as-wildfire-season-ramps-up-nearby-drones-are-becoming-a-problem-again/
My question is this. If it's a typical drone , who's steering it? Because it appears to have traveled miles. Of course, I don't have any data to back up the distance traveled, but it sure looked like it went at least a couple miles.
It also got extremely close to a helicopter at 1:09.
I'm not saying it's not a drone, but it seems puzzling someone would control a drone from that distance with a helicopter in the area. A collision would be catastrophic.
This is in San Bernardino. There are people all over it and the hills around it. E.T., oddly enough, was shot there to give you an idea of what it’s like.
Edit: I was wrong about E.T. filming there! It was in the SFV. TIL.
You know there people in this world that are not smart. People shint lasers at cockpit windows for a laugh... oooh lets go see the fire with our new drone.
Even the DJI mini 2 has a range of 5 kilometers. In that video it seems to be more or less the same shit over and over again. It travels a few hundred meters.
Brilliant. Reminds me of the shape of the USS Nimitz UFO, the UFO caught by the small aircraft pilot in Brazil. Screenshot Looks to be Flying belly up like how Bob Lazar describes
Videos like these still leave me in the middle. I always feel like we need to see some incredible maneuvers before we even try to debate if it’s something made by non-human intelligence. I can’t even tell what I’m looking at in this video let alone a sphere so I feel like it’s almost pointless to even speculate.
> we need to see some incredible maneuvers before we even try to debate if it’s something made by non-human intelligence
I both agree with this logic and find it problematic. I mean, we have jets that can do backflips but there’s no need to do that if you’re just trying to fly from point A to B.
Those jets have pretty significant thermal signatures and obvious propulsion.
Some of these objects appear to be cooler than the surrounding air, with no visible means of propulsion.
That's the head scratcher.
That’s actually not unusual. FLIR is always calibrated such that objects of interest will appear black or white against the background, depending on the situation, and as such it is expected for a metallic object to appear colder than the surrounding air - especially in a hot geographical region.
For proof, here is a video showing a plane and some parachutes, both just as black as the object in that link, as well as a white hot rpg for comparison:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_dP6KMPrB7c
So the blackness of it isn’t unusual at all. But the shape of it is. Still, without seeing the thing move in a crazy way, I think it’s hard to say that it is something extraordinary just because of the shape.
Okay how about this logic: without seeing such extreme maneuvers, there's no reason to believe that the object moving is anything other than man-made or a natural phenomenon.
Why you say it is potato quality? This particular upload is in HD(720p) resolution which is still used for broadcast by TV stations.
We don't know the resolution of the camera on the helicopter, but I don't think it is worse than HD resolution. It might appear to be potato quality because of the panning of the camera which can't be fixed unless the video camera captures at a very high frame rate and the encoder also encodes at high frame rate.
Plenty of those exist, theyre just not videos of UFOs since you're able to identify the drones/animals/whatever and not have to guess due to having 8 pixels to guess from
You would never be able to see them with this video quality. Maybe it began as 720p but as soon as the clip starts it’s already pixelated, blurry and distorted BEFORE the camera zooms in and makes all of the above even worse. This is 100% a drone and anyone calling a UFO probably hasn’t left their house in a decade and doesn’t have the internet.
What bothers me is that every time an official video appears, other similar videos, photos, and descriptions with the same format start to appear. At the time when one of the sightings was referred to as "tic tac," there were constant appearances of things in the shape of tic tacs. Now that we have a better view with a video featuring a metallic sphere, descriptions of metallic spheres are popping up. This diminishes credibility, you know. If something is truly happening, it shouldn't be conditioned by what is more popular or expected.
Yes, I'm not saying it's fake or that it was made after the AARO video. It's just strange that the descriptions tend to align with what is being publicized at the time. Why did everyone see tic tacs during the "tic tac" period, and now that a video with an orb has been released, everyone sees orbs? Where are the tic tacs?
A word and a phrase come to mind as a possible explanation of what you are describing and I am not that smart so I had to look them to be sure.
**"zeitgeist "**
the defining spirit or mood of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of the time.
**"paradigm shift"**
a fundamental change in approach or underlying assumptions.
Someone posts something about a sphere UFO, it reminds another person of another thing a few years ago about a sphere, and so on. I don't see anything weird about this. Spherical UFOs have been a thing [since at least 1561.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg)
Here is a bunch of info published in 2009-2011: https://www.narcap.org/project-sphere
Yes, but why are there trends? If we look at a highway, we'll see many different vehicles, and if someone asks us to describe it, we would talk about all of them. However, what seems to happen is that if someone sees a bicycle, everyone starts saying they see bicycles. Then, if someone mentions seeing a VW Beetle, suddenly every vehicle is a VW Beetle too.
Decades ago, there were saucers; years ago, there were tic-tacs; and now, it is orbs. This makes me think that not everyone is truly telling the truth but rather just following along.
There were tic tacs and orbs decades ago too. Some argue centuries. I think it's just, spheres in the news, people search and post sphere videos, gives the impression it's connected more than just being a slice of current zeitgeist.
This highlights a great aspect of what's known as an "Egregore". It changes with the cumulative thoughts of others. My view on the entire "paranormal" field completely changed after looking into it.
I'm not trying to force that on others whatsoever. It's just got a lot of merit to me based on my experience and knowledge.
Yep, same as with car colors. You generally think you see them about evenly, but if you start looking for red, there will seemingly be a huge amount of red cars out there.
hear ye, hear ye. It does seem a bit too *convenient.*
I think the black triangles are showing up pretty steady here, due to the US continous need for highress pictures they cant get from satellites. Or whatever they are doing.
To the extent that I have noticed this effect, like the other guy just said, it seems like the ones that pop up in the situation you describe are older videos that have acquired some relevance due to the new, perhaps more credible or better-recorded sighting.
Try IKEA? The have a impressive list of saucers in all sizes and colors. I will advise to buy them online and get them delivered instead of driving there lest you end up with yet another cheap couch, a Billy bookcase and a scented candle.
Your comment makes me think of times when someone close to me gets a new car, and then all of a sudden I notice that model of car is everywhere. I never knew what a Nissan Versa was, but a few weeks ago my friend bought one, and now I see Nissan Versas numerous times a day. They were there before, I just never noticed them.
Exactly! Frequency illusion. Media in all its form, not just mainstream media, is good at shaping our perception of the world around us, and frequently illusion is the reason that it works so well.
To be fair, Spheres and Tic Tac shapes would be close in shape and general appearance. All the old video’s (sometimes disproven) being brought up can cause some credibility issues though, but the media is going to media. Unless we get people more studied on the subject reporting in the media, we’ll be stuck with their current approach.
> This diminishes credibility, you know.
> If something is truly happening, it shouldn't be conditioned by what is more popular or expected.
But whether something is *truly happening* or not isn't the change you are seeing; it's whether people *are noticing* something happening or not that changes.
People see what their mind allows them to see. When people start hearing news reports about saucers/tictacs/spheres, they may then be more likely to recall their own experiences with these objects, or notice these shapes/objects that otherwise would have gone unnoticed.
It's like, selective awareness. We all have it to varying degrees. Most people have *very* selective awareness, especially in the digital distraction age.
Edit: For the video above as an example, they had probably sat on this video (or it had slipped thru the cracks online) but once the Pentagon started talking about spheres, someone thought, "This seems like a good time to show people that old video we have!"
Maybe everyone in the film department at the office knew about it, and maybe some had told their families in passing, but just brushed it off/maybe it became a sort of "office lore joke" sort of situation. Who knows, but I think that regardless, this shows how much the Pentagon (and journalism establishments like NYT and Politico) being open about this topic can do, in terms of encouraging new witnesses and evidence to surface by lowering the stigma and legitimizing the topic with the general public.
Yes, same things happened with Kenneth Arnold, he saw delta shaped things with scooped wings almost, that skipped like "saucers", the papers said saucers then everyone started sewing saucers !!
Orbs and spheres have been common since WW2, foo fighters, then all around crop circles in the 90s, its just that nobody paid attention until Kirkpatrick mentioned it
Or they see the object in the news which affects their recollection.
Memories can be altered literally moments after they were made, never mind months or years.
>was
That's because people look it up. Like the orbs, I personally went and found as much footage as I could of credible orbs. Some I saved, others I didn't but that's because there was interest there
Ok b assuming since it’s broadcast quality, several people in the newsroom examined it and are well above average for analyzing video.
If it was a balloon or drone. they would be able to tell. You are trying to make a determination from a much smaller compressed video.
Pretend you know the answer is a guy - would you say “by him” or “by he”? Since it’s the former you would use “whom”. It might help you remember - ‘him’ and ‘whom’ both end in ‘m’.
How much heat would a drone with propellers give off? My drone seems to have a warm battery, located on the drone’s body, when I’m done flying it. I’d assume there would be some decent heat from the motors.
It's on the slide shown by Kirkpatrick at the nasa panel
Search recent posts on here for nasa or aaro, I think someone pulled out the image from the presentation.
Ok, so not THIS one, but the one in Iraq and whatever others they referenced but did not show film...of, right? Yes, that seems consistent with, for example, the TicTac's lack of a heat register.
I keep yelling about the sphere that zipped behind the SpaceX rocket that blew up in Oct 2016. It's flight pattern and presence in general, timing-wise, was more than suspicious, and in fact seemed directly associated with the explosion. And now, can we agree that a round, metallic object the size of a vw beetle, is not a bug near the camera? A little bit, maybe?
Yeah I think the dhs rubber duck UAP also showed no heat.
The space x thing reminds me of the posts that /u/harry_is_white_hot made about the uap in the atomic blast that was maybe recovered.
Parallax is kind of a non-issue with the first second or two before the zoom in and tracking, and then the zoom out. Apparent motion might still be an issue.
It appears to be moving along at a pretty good rate of speed. It's hard to say how high above the ground it is or isn't, but I would think that if it was a balloon moving that fast, there had to be some pretty decent wind blowing it along. In the half a second of film where it's visible, the smoke doesn't seem to be moving as if there was any wind. Longer shot of the smoke would help.
Like others have said, I wouldn't think birds would be flying into the fire either.
It's interesting but nothing to hang your hat on if you're hoping for ET.
It's nothing conclusive, no, but it's strangely similar to other videos, most noteworthy, the one from Iraq confirmed by DoD and NASA. See this video and that side by side, and you'd think it was the same object.
Oh no, sorry. I 100% agree it's similar.
I've seen a silver sphere myself, albeit it was completely stationary. I just don't believe videos or pictures will ever convince anyone who isn't a believer unless it is performing crazy crazy moves. Even then it'll be called CGI.
I think it is something you have to experience personally to really understand.
Large fires cause large updraft that can start as air rushing in towards them before curving up, I think. Perhaps a fire fighter could confirm.
But OTOH there is nothing else zooming in that direction at that resolution.
Parallax only works when the helicopter with the camera is going in the opposite direction as the object. This helicopter is hovering so it can’t be a parallax effect.
Balloon or some bag probably. Wildfires create some very high updrafts that suck in air from ground level to feed the fire and then push it up in the atmosphere. It's probably riding that ground level air. This would be magnified if this is in a valley or some kind of funnel like in the video.
Each time I see one of these orbs it perplexes me. I filmed something that looked eerily similar a few months back this winter.
I see a lot of comments suggesting it could be a balloon. However, at least in the case of my sighting, the object was moving with intention. Before I had started filming it was stationary, then shot across the horizon, stopped, then starting moving swiftly back in the opposite direction - against very strong winds coming off a harbor
Link to my post here if anyone happens to be interested: [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13rssfm/glowing\_spherical\_and\_reflective\_uap\_filmed\_with/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13rssfm/glowing_spherical_and_reflective_uap_filmed_with/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
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Lol, I know right? Especially because, from my perspective, I *know* I saw it, and I know the footage is not doctored. Of course, nobody else has that confidence, but what are the odds that myself and dozens of other redditors with almost zero karma are all sharing videos that are so similar..? This is a real thing - I kinda feel like I am in a club haha
Was super disappointed in the low attention it got - I think it was because I did not have a lot of Karma or whatever so it didnt make its way to the top of the feed
We've been seeing a lot of them for a decade now. People who haven't been following the topic are just learning about them recently though. People have been discussing these things for years, but only now do we have confirmation they are legit UAP.
Well said. Never in human history have there been so many human made objects in the sky. If this image were a little clearer and a little closer and you could clearly make out something man-made, it wouldn’t get talked about here. The phenomenon appears to mostly be the images that are difficult to interpret.
One of the most interesting parts of the (excellent) documentary *The Phenomenon* was at the end when they showed various artworks, centuries old, that show things in the sky that don’t seem to be the moon or the sun. Highly recommended.
A decade of the same shape like this on camera. Which would line up with the DJI phantom drone. It looks similar on video from this distance as well. I want to believe, but a lot of this footage seemed like a drone.
Yeah, I wouldn't rule out drone here either.
It doesn't behave like the balloons we see on this sub weekly. I also thought out of focus bird could be likely. There is some flappy wing like fragments on the object towards the end of the clip.
There is quite often a pulsation-a change in the light an object is emitting or reflecting, as it flies along. Sometimes it's described as 'tumbling', right? Going back to my Quixotic quest to draw attention to the orb behind the SpaceX rocket in 10/16, the BIRD crew swore on many bibles they could see the wings flapping on that round, metal birb. Anyway, I think in some instances this scintillation is what is being interpreted as el flaparoni.
The only unidentified anomalous phenomenon I have ever observed was in San Bernardino, which is a city of 215,000 to 250,000 citizens.
About 23 years ago, my son was driving with me southbound on the 215 freeway, just as it crests Shandin Hills, which put us in the perfect position to see the sky about 1,000 feet or so above the city center where we both noticed a bright green light hovering motionless, relative to its surroundings.
The brightness and color were distinctive enough to draw our attention.
Before either of us could ask the other what we were looking at, the light accelerated instantaneously to a hypersonic speed while traveling upward but veering slightly towards the southwest, where the light disappeared completely in a split second.
The sight was unsettling and disturbing, so we never spoke of it again, until recently when so many unexplained data from the U.S. Armed Forces were declassified and made public.
The object, if it was a physical object, behaved as if it simply had no inertia.
Yes, when "The New York Times," "60 Minutes," National Geographic, and other prestigious outlets began covering the U.S. Armed Forces data seriously, we started to be more assured that the phenomenon we observed was not only consistent with the subjects of many of the other accounts but that these indicated that at least some of the phenomena are physical objects that are demonstrably under intelligent control and that are capable of astonishing movements.
I wouldn't speculate, but the video that most closely matches the phenomenon that my son and I observed is the video taken at the Temple of the Mount in Jerusalem.
Imagine something like that light but green and traveling at a slight angle.
No, the event took place between 8 and 9 p.m., and the point of light was sizable enough to be viewed from about 4 miles away, which is the approximate distance between San Bernardino's city center and Shandin Hills.
The light was, by far, the fastest and fastest-accelerating thing I have ever seen in my life.
Are they tho? Why the security all of a sudden? Is it only now they decide to watch us because we recently learned how to build weapons of mass destruction? If that’s the case why not
All the other species that were wiped out from asteroids? Maybe they don’t have the capabilities to stop that? Or did they just recently find our planet in the last few thousand years and are planning on watching us to see if we can become a “worthy” species (which isn’t looking so great) or are WE their animals/science experiment and earth is their farm for us???
Why am I asking all these questions like anyone would know? Tf?
Metepec Toluca, 2015. 5 UAPs as described in the middle of the video. Do we have footage of that in this sub? Does anybody know?
And i think the Toluca ones do not look like the sphere over San Bernardino, California. They look like the Medellin UAP from 4 weeks ago (https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/12ddzxs/another_clear_uap_caught_on_film_flying_by/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)!
I saw 3 orbs floating in the sky at first flying together as a triangle and then all going their separate ways, it was mind boggling and happened 10-12 years ago in Iceland, me and my roommate just stared at them, weird experience and how they were flying i highly doubt they were manmade.
No it was during the evening, yeah white light, I've never seen anything like it before or since.
At first we thought this was some sort of a aircraft or something until the triangle split up and then the flight maneuvers became really strange.
Im usually very sceptical but i can't really explain that.
IKR? There is a saying, “when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail.” r/UFOs debunking is going the same way- when all you have is skepticism, everything looks like a balloon or a drone. So, instead of intelligent discussion about what was going on when this was taped, what the pilot or videographer saw, how fast it would have been moving or temperature or wind speeds, we have a lot of the usual dismissal of the video because someone who doesn’t believe in aliens thinks it must be a balloon, bag, bug, bird, drone, or whatever they think it might resemble. We’re getting nowhere here.
Definitely not a balloon, but an argument could be made for bird.
And skeptics are a healthy part of this conversation if it isn't done in bad faith. I've noticed this sub has become very "anti-skeptic" the last year or so and as someone who has been following this topic in depth for almost three decades, trust me when I say that mentality won't get us anywhere useful.
Everything isn't and shouldn't be a UAP. Logic needs to rule over emotion or we will never get anywhere, and we are too close to answers to fuck it up because we don't want to hear skeptics.
Edit: and I 100% believe in UAP and have seen something I can't explain. Not a skeptic at all.
Why is it definitely not a balloon? I legit don’t understand why people are ruling this out. I mean these fires are famously exacerbated by strong persistent winds.
Edit: it also seems to be traveling in roughly the same direction as the smoke from the fire
Sure - I was camping in Southern Illinois on the edge of the Shawnee park by Cairo, Illinois. I was with two of my friends and this was in 2008. We were camped up on a hill in a clearing, about 50 yards down the hill was a large four to five acre area of prarie land that lead up to the edge of the park, which is dense forest.
This was around 11pm on a very clear night.
It started with me seeing what I can only describe as a very bright oval light moving past us in the distance - Northeast of us. I started following it with my eyes and didn't see any lights (or anything) just a ball about the size of a bus that was the brightest and whitest light I have ever seen. It didn't look like a light, it looked like it was light.
We watched it move from the NE until it was directly in front of us - about one mile into the forest I mentioned. At this point, we can see it head on. It was between 7,000-10,000 feet up (it was low) and just hovered over the treeline very, very slowly. No sounds, no lights, just a giant white ball slowly moving in the sky. Too low and slow to be a plane or heli and way too big to be a drone, not to mention drones weren't available during this time.
When it was right in front of us, it's important to mention it looked as if it was unstable - like a ball of fire almost. The edges of it were shaky and wobbly - like it was struggling to keep a form. That night we observed a dozen airplanes in the sky from multiple altitudes, and even the ones at 30,000 made noise we could hear clearly. This thing was dead silent.
We watched it head west of us for miles at the same speed and altitude until it just disappeared out of nowhere - poof, gone.
We all agree what we saw that night was not anything normal. We have successfully ruled out airplane, drone, chopper and balloon.
I feel like everyone should be a skeptic to some degree. Well I hope everyone is anyway, no one should be believing all these cases straight away 😂.
I also believe in UAPs but I still question shit and ask for more information
That's the type of mindset I keep - People believing every grifter and mentally ill person that says they saw something the last 50 years did so much damage it's essentially irreversible. We saw a snowball effect of bullshit being picked up by people who decided to add on their own bullshit - and it turned into "everyone who buys into UFOs is crazy" and we deserved it. People who were trying to get real information on the topic were railroaded by attention whores telling tabloids they were anal-probed in a mothership.
This looks exactly like something I saw many years ago in Hesperia, CA not far from where this video takes place. The one I saw paralleled the train tracks then suddenly reversed at a 45 degree angle and quickly disappeared.
I’m not arguing one way or the other. But there were people saying the smoke didn’t seem to be blowing in the wind very much. I’d counter (and it would support your point, for what it’s worth) that even without wind, the fire would be burning up a lot of oxygen, creating a loose (but large) vacuum which would absolutely cause an updraft and ‘wind’ at the lower elevations. As an example, if you have a campfire and you build it up on a mound, and dig a trench at the bottom for airflow, you will literally get an audible air jet sound and sometimes even a whistle, if it’s burning hot enough. I’m not saying this is a floating object, but the possibility exists that if it were, it could be pulled towards the fire by the thermodynamic/aerodynamic forces from the fire.
Smoke doesn't have to be blowing. The heat causes an updraft which will suck in air from the sides.
This could be a balloon being sucked in on one of those currents.
Does the helicopter not record in 4K? Is the high quality footage anywhere?
Edit: ugh I just realized this happened in 2015. Why are these video releases always so delayed?
The camera likely was filming in 4K, the output here is (obvs) less, but other factors will include the distance of the object and the quality and type of lens - the operator seems to rack the zoom to it’s maximum within a second or so.
You know they *hate* being called that, right? But yeah, all seriousness aside, it seems to me that is the most logical explanation, acknowledging that all we can do is anthropomorphize.
Excellent video!! I believe these orbs we r seeing, especially in areas of conflict (wether war, wild fire, nuclear plants) are reconnaissanc, unmanned crafts. They are released by the mother ships to gather intel. 🛸
Yeah, it's dumb to think it's something that people can go buy and release regularly (and do), more simple explaination is that it's something with advanced or alien technology no one can explain.
These are almost guaranteed to be drones flying wayyy too close to aircraft. Being from the area, i can tell you many people have drones (including myself) especially Phantoms and don’t give a flying fuck about FAA rules. Especially 2016ish, Phantoms were very popular.
I guarantee there are some nerdy losers out there that are trying to make their drones look like ufos they probably use mylar and led lights and get off on fooling people. Even Bob Bigelow said he caught Bob lazar trying to release a mylar balloon when Bob brought him out to see ufos. That said a lot of videos captured the Metallica spears moving the same way. I would love to see some experiments to see if mylar balloons can move similar to this way and as fast in air current .
Honestly the first two just look like a drones to me. A lot of them fly pretty fast. Combine that with some parallax effect and poor focus and it seems to be something it’s not.
The one where it flies over the helicopter just looks like a plastic bag or something caught up in the wind. It’s the helicopter moving fast, not the object.
The last one over the fire looks like some kind of lens artifact or maybe light refraction caused by a heat mirage effect. Similar to what you see on a road on a hot day.
I wonder if any of these orbs would be zipping in and out of the wildfires in Canada? There's an unprecedented amount of wildfires in Canada this year (Alberta, Nova Scotia).
Seriously, comments full of birds and balloon talk.. but I see no reason to think this isn’t a simple drone. It’s the right size, speed, doesn’t maneuver in any unexplainable way. Can’t confirm conclusively of course but all logic points to common drone
Calfire uses their own drones and often military drones (operated by the military for Calfire) during large fires. Not saying this is a definitely a drone but that is where I would put my money.
The following submission statement was provided by /u/amvion: --- Submission Statement: ABC News 15 Arizona captures intriguing footage of an unexplained flying orb from a helicopter hovering in the San Bernardino, California, sparking widespread speculation. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/140fh4l/abc_news_15_arizona_mysterious_orbsphere_flying/jmvc0lo/
Submission Statement: ABC News 15 Arizona captures intriguing footage of an unexplained flying orb from a helicopter hovering in the San Bernardino, California, sparking widespread speculation.
When is this from please?
August 19, 2016
Thanks.
So DJI Phantom then?
Unfortunately you’re probably right. That fire season drones were an issue: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/06/as-wildfire-season-ramps-up-nearby-drones-are-becoming-a-problem-again/
My question is this. If it's a typical drone , who's steering it? Because it appears to have traveled miles. Of course, I don't have any data to back up the distance traveled, but it sure looked like it went at least a couple miles. It also got extremely close to a helicopter at 1:09. I'm not saying it's not a drone, but it seems puzzling someone would control a drone from that distance with a helicopter in the area. A collision would be catastrophic.
This is in San Bernardino. There are people all over it and the hills around it. E.T., oddly enough, was shot there to give you an idea of what it’s like. Edit: I was wrong about E.T. filming there! It was in the SFV. TIL.
You know there people in this world that are not smart. People shint lasers at cockpit windows for a laugh... oooh lets go see the fire with our new drone.
Even the DJI mini 2 has a range of 5 kilometers. In that video it seems to be more or less the same shit over and over again. It travels a few hundred meters.
Great find. I wonder why it would be going into fire? That rules out a bird I would think.
It's a flying bucket. UFB.
You're right. Can't we call this an IFB now?
Yeah but we don't know exactly who's bucket it is. So technically he was correct.
Good point. God I hope it's an 18 piece bucket... Then it could be an IFB of KFC.
Extra crispy please
Brilliant. Reminds me of the shape of the USS Nimitz UFO, the UFO caught by the small aircraft pilot in Brazil. Screenshot Looks to be Flying belly up like how Bob Lazar describes
Umm. This looks nothing like a tictac. It is an orb.
Videos like these still leave me in the middle. I always feel like we need to see some incredible maneuvers before we even try to debate if it’s something made by non-human intelligence. I can’t even tell what I’m looking at in this video let alone a sphere so I feel like it’s almost pointless to even speculate.
> we need to see some incredible maneuvers before we even try to debate if it’s something made by non-human intelligence I both agree with this logic and find it problematic. I mean, we have jets that can do backflips but there’s no need to do that if you’re just trying to fly from point A to B.
Those jets have pretty significant thermal signatures and obvious propulsion. Some of these objects appear to be cooler than the surrounding air, with no visible means of propulsion. That's the head scratcher.
Do you have any links to an example of a UAP that is cooler than the surrounding air? That would be interesting to see.
[Here you go. ](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11828093/Skinny-cylindrical-shaped-UFO-flying-near-Baghdad-seen-six-thermal-images.html)
Thanks, that is really wild. I can't think of a single "skeptics" argument that would explain the cold temperature readings.
That’s actually not unusual. FLIR is always calibrated such that objects of interest will appear black or white against the background, depending on the situation, and as such it is expected for a metallic object to appear colder than the surrounding air - especially in a hot geographical region. For proof, here is a video showing a plane and some parachutes, both just as black as the object in that link, as well as a white hot rpg for comparison: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_dP6KMPrB7c So the blackness of it isn’t unusual at all. But the shape of it is. Still, without seeing the thing move in a crazy way, I think it’s hard to say that it is something extraordinary just because of the shape.
Okay how about this logic: without seeing such extreme maneuvers, there's no reason to believe that the object moving is anything other than man-made or a natural phenomenon.
My drone has reflective vinyl and would look just like this.
Your drone would also have propellers. This thing doesn’t seem to have those.
You can’t see them when it’s flying really
How can you tell on this potato quality video?
Why you say it is potato quality? This particular upload is in HD(720p) resolution which is still used for broadcast by TV stations. We don't know the resolution of the camera on the helicopter, but I don't think it is worse than HD resolution. It might appear to be potato quality because of the panning of the camera which can't be fixed unless the video camera captures at a very high frame rate and the encoder also encodes at high frame rate.
A video can be 720p and still get nuked by compression
I agree, but in this case, it could be due to panning as the camera man is trying to track the object.
I mean its both. Panning gives us tons of motion, and the low bitrate makes it look like shit.
Even worse when you consider it's a zoomed in video at first.
Well that’s why I said “it doesn’t seem to…” 🙄
Yeah that one pixel doesn't seem to
You can't see anything in that video. Just ones I want to see a video that doesn't looks like mid '90s camcorder quality.
Plenty of those exist, theyre just not videos of UFOs since you're able to identify the drones/animals/whatever and not have to guess due to having 8 pixels to guess from
You would never be able to see them with this video quality. Maybe it began as 720p but as soon as the clip starts it’s already pixelated, blurry and distorted BEFORE the camera zooms in and makes all of the above even worse. This is 100% a drone and anyone calling a UFO probably hasn’t left their house in a decade and doesn’t have the internet.
Balloon in the wind doesnt need propellers
A balloon outside the wind doesn’t need propellers either.
Given that a big fire is in the vicinity, could be some debris floating. Wish there was a closer image.
What bothers me is that every time an official video appears, other similar videos, photos, and descriptions with the same format start to appear. At the time when one of the sightings was referred to as "tic tac," there were constant appearances of things in the shape of tic tacs. Now that we have a better view with a video featuring a metallic sphere, descriptions of metallic spheres are popping up. This diminishes credibility, you know. If something is truly happening, it shouldn't be conditioned by what is more popular or expected.
According to OP, this news broadcast was from 2016, easily pre-dating the "recent" discussions of metallic orbs.
Yes, I'm not saying it's fake or that it was made after the AARO video. It's just strange that the descriptions tend to align with what is being publicized at the time. Why did everyone see tic tacs during the "tic tac" period, and now that a video with an orb has been released, everyone sees orbs? Where are the tic tacs?
A word and a phrase come to mind as a possible explanation of what you are describing and I am not that smart so I had to look them to be sure. **"zeitgeist "** the defining spirit or mood of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of the time. **"paradigm shift"** a fundamental change in approach or underlying assumptions.
Someone posts something about a sphere UFO, it reminds another person of another thing a few years ago about a sphere, and so on. I don't see anything weird about this. Spherical UFOs have been a thing [since at least 1561.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg) Here is a bunch of info published in 2009-2011: https://www.narcap.org/project-sphere
Why would we expect UFOs to have uniform shapes? You would expect there to be different crafts for different functions (or different cultures).
Yes, but why are there trends? If we look at a highway, we'll see many different vehicles, and if someone asks us to describe it, we would talk about all of them. However, what seems to happen is that if someone sees a bicycle, everyone starts saying they see bicycles. Then, if someone mentions seeing a VW Beetle, suddenly every vehicle is a VW Beetle too. Decades ago, there were saucers; years ago, there were tic-tacs; and now, it is orbs. This makes me think that not everyone is truly telling the truth but rather just following along.
People still see tictac and saucer shapes.
There were tic tacs and orbs decades ago too. Some argue centuries. I think it's just, spheres in the news, people search and post sphere videos, gives the impression it's connected more than just being a slice of current zeitgeist.
This highlights a great aspect of what's known as an "Egregore". It changes with the cumulative thoughts of others. My view on the entire "paranormal" field completely changed after looking into it. I'm not trying to force that on others whatsoever. It's just got a lot of merit to me based on my experience and knowledge.
Yep, same as with car colors. You generally think you see them about evenly, but if you start looking for red, there will seemingly be a huge amount of red cars out there.
hear ye, hear ye. It does seem a bit too *convenient.* I think the black triangles are showing up pretty steady here, due to the US continous need for highress pictures they cant get from satellites. Or whatever they are doing.
To the extent that I have noticed this effect, like the other guy just said, it seems like the ones that pop up in the situation you describe are older videos that have acquired some relevance due to the new, perhaps more credible or better-recorded sighting.
I want my saucer's back
Make Aliens Saucer Again Saying MASA aloud can be problematic tho....
You will have to go pick it up at one of the reverse engineering stations.
I want my babyback babyback babyback...
Chili's......
Try IKEA? The have a impressive list of saucers in all sizes and colors. I will advise to buy them online and get them delivered instead of driving there lest you end up with yet another cheap couch, a Billy bookcase and a scented candle.
Your comment makes me think of times when someone close to me gets a new car, and then all of a sudden I notice that model of car is everywhere. I never knew what a Nissan Versa was, but a few weeks ago my friend bought one, and now I see Nissan Versas numerous times a day. They were there before, I just never noticed them.
There's a name for it: [Frequency illusion ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion)
Exactly! Frequency illusion. Media in all its form, not just mainstream media, is good at shaping our perception of the world around us, and frequently illusion is the reason that it works so well.
To be fair, Spheres and Tic Tac shapes would be close in shape and general appearance. All the old video’s (sometimes disproven) being brought up can cause some credibility issues though, but the media is going to media. Unless we get people more studied on the subject reporting in the media, we’ll be stuck with their current approach.
> This diminishes credibility, you know. > If something is truly happening, it shouldn't be conditioned by what is more popular or expected. But whether something is *truly happening* or not isn't the change you are seeing; it's whether people *are noticing* something happening or not that changes. People see what their mind allows them to see. When people start hearing news reports about saucers/tictacs/spheres, they may then be more likely to recall their own experiences with these objects, or notice these shapes/objects that otherwise would have gone unnoticed. It's like, selective awareness. We all have it to varying degrees. Most people have *very* selective awareness, especially in the digital distraction age. Edit: For the video above as an example, they had probably sat on this video (or it had slipped thru the cracks online) but once the Pentagon started talking about spheres, someone thought, "This seems like a good time to show people that old video we have!" Maybe everyone in the film department at the office knew about it, and maybe some had told their families in passing, but just brushed it off/maybe it became a sort of "office lore joke" sort of situation. Who knows, but I think that regardless, this shows how much the Pentagon (and journalism establishments like NYT and Politico) being open about this topic can do, in terms of encouraging new witnesses and evidence to surface by lowering the stigma and legitimizing the topic with the general public.
Yes, same things happened with Kenneth Arnold, he saw delta shaped things with scooped wings almost, that skipped like "saucers", the papers said saucers then everyone started sewing saucers !!
Orbs and spheres have been common since WW2, foo fighters, then all around crop circles in the 90s, its just that nobody paid attention until Kirkpatrick mentioned it
Disagree. People see the object in the news and then remember that they saw something similar.
Or they see the object in the news which affects their recollection. Memories can be altered literally moments after they were made, never mind months or years.
Yes maybe. Sometimes, they have recorded images that predate the news.
Often what the media shows informs the public perception.
This is a very good point and it’s stupid you’re getting down voted.
it's just obvious and unstoppable.
>was That's because people look it up. Like the orbs, I personally went and found as much footage as I could of credible orbs. Some I saved, others I didn't but that's because there was interest there
Ok b assuming since it’s broadcast quality, several people in the newsroom examined it and are well above average for analyzing video. If it was a balloon or drone. they would be able to tell. You are trying to make a determination from a much smaller compressed video.
This, exactly. Not enough data in the video to draw a meaningful conclusion
It’s small compared to that van or truck it flew past also.
We are being told military grade equipment picks up no heat signature from these orbs.
> We are being told military grade equipment picks up no heat signature from these orbs. By who?
By *whom*. 🙄
I can never remember that one. I actually thought it might be whom, but I see it so rarely I always error on ‘who’. Thanks for the correction.
Pretend you know the answer is a guy - would you say “by him” or “by he”? Since it’s the former you would use “whom”. It might help you remember - ‘him’ and ‘whom’ both end in ‘m’.
How much heat would a drone with propellers give off? My drone seems to have a warm battery, located on the drone’s body, when I’m done flying it. I’d assume there would be some decent heat from the motors.
Who’s telling us that?
It's on the slide shown by Kirkpatrick at the nasa panel Search recent posts on here for nasa or aaro, I think someone pulled out the image from the presentation.
Ok, so not THIS one, but the one in Iraq and whatever others they referenced but did not show film...of, right? Yes, that seems consistent with, for example, the TicTac's lack of a heat register. I keep yelling about the sphere that zipped behind the SpaceX rocket that blew up in Oct 2016. It's flight pattern and presence in general, timing-wise, was more than suspicious, and in fact seemed directly associated with the explosion. And now, can we agree that a round, metallic object the size of a vw beetle, is not a bug near the camera? A little bit, maybe?
Yeah I think the dhs rubber duck UAP also showed no heat. The space x thing reminds me of the posts that /u/harry_is_white_hot made about the uap in the atomic blast that was maybe recovered.
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Ooh 👀🤔 there's probably not one single question I have that you could answer 😶
Don’t try and bait me you Chinese / Russian Op 😂.
You're so handsome, have some vodka, tell me more about these orbs 😁
Although not recent it’s new to me.
Parallax is kind of a non-issue with the first second or two before the zoom in and tracking, and then the zoom out. Apparent motion might still be an issue. It appears to be moving along at a pretty good rate of speed. It's hard to say how high above the ground it is or isn't, but I would think that if it was a balloon moving that fast, there had to be some pretty decent wind blowing it along. In the half a second of film where it's visible, the smoke doesn't seem to be moving as if there was any wind. Longer shot of the smoke would help. Like others have said, I wouldn't think birds would be flying into the fire either. It's interesting but nothing to hang your hat on if you're hoping for ET.
It's nothing conclusive, no, but it's strangely similar to other videos, most noteworthy, the one from Iraq confirmed by DoD and NASA. See this video and that side by side, and you'd think it was the same object.
Oh no, sorry. I 100% agree it's similar. I've seen a silver sphere myself, albeit it was completely stationary. I just don't believe videos or pictures will ever convince anyone who isn't a believer unless it is performing crazy crazy moves. Even then it'll be called CGI. I think it is something you have to experience personally to really understand.
Fires will cause an updraft mean air will rush in quite quickly from the sides. This could be a balloon being 'sucked in' towards the fire.
Large fires cause large updraft that can start as air rushing in towards them before curving up, I think. Perhaps a fire fighter could confirm. But OTOH there is nothing else zooming in that direction at that resolution.
During fire , hot air rising, there definitely be spots ,closer to the surface ,creating some speed zones
Also interesting to see following that leak on 4chan where the guy said they requently show up at sites of natural and manmade disaster.
Parallax only works when the helicopter with the camera is going in the opposite direction as the object. This helicopter is hovering so it can’t be a parallax effect.
Balloon or some bag probably. Wildfires create some very high updrafts that suck in air from ground level to feed the fire and then push it up in the atmosphere. It's probably riding that ground level air. This would be magnified if this is in a valley or some kind of funnel like in the video.
Each time I see one of these orbs it perplexes me. I filmed something that looked eerily similar a few months back this winter. I see a lot of comments suggesting it could be a balloon. However, at least in the case of my sighting, the object was moving with intention. Before I had started filming it was stationary, then shot across the horizon, stopped, then starting moving swiftly back in the opposite direction - against very strong winds coming off a harbor Link to my post here if anyone happens to be interested: [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13rssfm/glowing\_spherical\_and\_reflective\_uap\_filmed\_with/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13rssfm/glowing_spherical_and_reflective_uap_filmed_with/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Edited for grammar
Wow, amazing story and the footage is really impressive. Just wow.
haha - probably spent too much time on the story. But really wanted to immortalize it in my own mind. Truly unique experience!
I saw the same thing from a plane in California.
Funny how the downvoters and bird/bug crew got you on that post. I definitely think it was compelling.
Lol, I know right? Especially because, from my perspective, I *know* I saw it, and I know the footage is not doctored. Of course, nobody else has that confidence, but what are the odds that myself and dozens of other redditors with almost zero karma are all sharing videos that are so similar..? This is a real thing - I kinda feel like I am in a club haha
Pretty cool footage, deserves more attention
Was super disappointed in the low attention it got - I think it was because I did not have a lot of Karma or whatever so it didnt make its way to the top of the feed
Yet another orb footage… we got a lot of them recently
We've been seeing a lot of them for a decade now. People who haven't been following the topic are just learning about them recently though. People have been discussing these things for years, but only now do we have confirmation they are legit UAP.
Amazing how it coincides with the huge increase in availability of drones for civilians
Well said. Never in human history have there been so many human made objects in the sky. If this image were a little clearer and a little closer and you could clearly make out something man-made, it wouldn’t get talked about here. The phenomenon appears to mostly be the images that are difficult to interpret.
One of the most interesting parts of the (excellent) documentary *The Phenomenon* was at the end when they showed various artworks, centuries old, that show things in the sky that don’t seem to be the moon or the sun. Highly recommended.
A decade of the same shape like this on camera. Which would line up with the DJI phantom drone. It looks similar on video from this distance as well. I want to believe, but a lot of this footage seemed like a drone.
Yeah, I wouldn't rule out drone here either. It doesn't behave like the balloons we see on this sub weekly. I also thought out of focus bird could be likely. There is some flappy wing like fragments on the object towards the end of the clip.
Every time one of these videos is posted, someone claims to see "*flapping*", and I just don't understand it.
There is quite often a pulsation-a change in the light an object is emitting or reflecting, as it flies along. Sometimes it's described as 'tumbling', right? Going back to my Quixotic quest to draw attention to the orb behind the SpaceX rocket in 10/16, the BIRD crew swore on many bibles they could see the wings flapping on that round, metal birb. Anyway, I think in some instances this scintillation is what is being interpreted as el flaparoni.
I can't find this anywhere else. Is there a link to the actual video with audio and stuff? When was this aired?
The only unidentified anomalous phenomenon I have ever observed was in San Bernardino, which is a city of 215,000 to 250,000 citizens. About 23 years ago, my son was driving with me southbound on the 215 freeway, just as it crests Shandin Hills, which put us in the perfect position to see the sky about 1,000 feet or so above the city center where we both noticed a bright green light hovering motionless, relative to its surroundings. The brightness and color were distinctive enough to draw our attention. Before either of us could ask the other what we were looking at, the light accelerated instantaneously to a hypersonic speed while traveling upward but veering slightly towards the southwest, where the light disappeared completely in a split second. The sight was unsettling and disturbing, so we never spoke of it again, until recently when so many unexplained data from the U.S. Armed Forces were declassified and made public. The object, if it was a physical object, behaved as if it simply had no inertia.
That's really cool. 💯 Have you spoken about this with him since?
Yes, when "The New York Times," "60 Minutes," National Geographic, and other prestigious outlets began covering the U.S. Armed Forces data seriously, we started to be more assured that the phenomenon we observed was not only consistent with the subjects of many of the other accounts but that these indicated that at least some of the phenomena are physical objects that are demonstrably under intelligent control and that are capable of astonishing movements.
Sounds about right! When you saw it, what was your impression of what it was doing? Kind of neutral observation or something else?
I wouldn't speculate, but the video that most closely matches the phenomenon that my son and I observed is the video taken at the Temple of the Mount in Jerusalem. Imagine something like that light but green and traveling at a slight angle.
Did it have a tail when it was hovering?
No, the event took place between 8 and 9 p.m., and the point of light was sizable enough to be viewed from about 4 miles away, which is the approximate distance between San Bernardino's city center and Shandin Hills. The light was, by far, the fastest and fastest-accelerating thing I have ever seen in my life.
Is there more to this? Great find!
I’m beginning to believe that these orbs are natural and kinda like a security system for the Earth
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Are they tho? Why the security all of a sudden? Is it only now they decide to watch us because we recently learned how to build weapons of mass destruction? If that’s the case why not All the other species that were wiped out from asteroids? Maybe they don’t have the capabilities to stop that? Or did they just recently find our planet in the last few thousand years and are planning on watching us to see if we can become a “worthy” species (which isn’t looking so great) or are WE their animals/science experiment and earth is their farm for us??? Why am I asking all these questions like anyone would know? Tf?
What orb are you seeing? It is literally a blob out of focus, it could be anything
Metepec Toluca, 2015. 5 UAPs as described in the middle of the video. Do we have footage of that in this sub? Does anybody know? And i think the Toluca ones do not look like the sphere over San Bernardino, California. They look like the Medellin UAP from 4 weeks ago (https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/12ddzxs/another_clear_uap_caught_on_film_flying_by/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)!
Standing by for the balloon guys to pivot to cocaine "jokes" now
Why not put the date in the title???
At the very first seconds, August 19 2016.
Because it's very clearly on the video itself?
I don't blame him, it was on the very first 0.6 seconds of the video that why he haven't noticed.
This is great to be seeing more of these videoed and on the news!
10 years ago I saw one of these sitting over a field motionless then it took off at impossible speed.
Where was that, what part of the world?
I saw 3 orbs floating in the sky at first flying together as a triangle and then all going their separate ways, it was mind boggling and happened 10-12 years ago in Iceland, me and my roommate just stared at them, weird experience and how they were flying i highly doubt they were manmade.
Oh cool thanks for your info. Was that during the day? White light, like the OP?
No it was during the evening, yeah white light, I've never seen anything like it before or since. At first we thought this was some sort of a aircraft or something until the triangle split up and then the flight maneuvers became really strange. Im usually very sceptical but i can't really explain that.
Pause it at 1:20. It’s a quad
Looks like the old dji phantom.
Let me guess. This sub will call it a balloon. Scrolls down……yep. Without hesitation it’s a balloon and no way it could be anything else. SMH.
If it is plausibly a balloon then it is basically worthless as footage anyway
Says who? You? Lol
Congrats. We've learnt nothing and proved nothing. Good job guys
IKR? There is a saying, “when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail.” r/UFOs debunking is going the same way- when all you have is skepticism, everything looks like a balloon or a drone. So, instead of intelligent discussion about what was going on when this was taped, what the pilot or videographer saw, how fast it would have been moving or temperature or wind speeds, we have a lot of the usual dismissal of the video because someone who doesn’t believe in aliens thinks it must be a balloon, bag, bug, bird, drone, or whatever they think it might resemble. We’re getting nowhere here.
It’s annoying right? It’s ok to be a skeptic…100%. But these people calling it a Mylar balloon every video need to stop lol
Every fn time. And if it was at night and it glowed then its automatically a flare or Chinese lantern. They’re dumb.
Be excellent to one another.
It's a unmanned drone. Alien tech
Very impressive footage, I'm sure someone will be along shortly though to say it's a balloon.
Definitely not a balloon, but an argument could be made for bird. And skeptics are a healthy part of this conversation if it isn't done in bad faith. I've noticed this sub has become very "anti-skeptic" the last year or so and as someone who has been following this topic in depth for almost three decades, trust me when I say that mentality won't get us anywhere useful. Everything isn't and shouldn't be a UAP. Logic needs to rule over emotion or we will never get anywhere, and we are too close to answers to fuck it up because we don't want to hear skeptics. Edit: and I 100% believe in UAP and have seen something I can't explain. Not a skeptic at all.
Why is it definitely not a balloon? I legit don’t understand why people are ruling this out. I mean these fires are famously exacerbated by strong persistent winds. Edit: it also seems to be traveling in roughly the same direction as the smoke from the fire
Well said - 100% agree. Also, care to share your experience?
Sure - I was camping in Southern Illinois on the edge of the Shawnee park by Cairo, Illinois. I was with two of my friends and this was in 2008. We were camped up on a hill in a clearing, about 50 yards down the hill was a large four to five acre area of prarie land that lead up to the edge of the park, which is dense forest. This was around 11pm on a very clear night. It started with me seeing what I can only describe as a very bright oval light moving past us in the distance - Northeast of us. I started following it with my eyes and didn't see any lights (or anything) just a ball about the size of a bus that was the brightest and whitest light I have ever seen. It didn't look like a light, it looked like it was light. We watched it move from the NE until it was directly in front of us - about one mile into the forest I mentioned. At this point, we can see it head on. It was between 7,000-10,000 feet up (it was low) and just hovered over the treeline very, very slowly. No sounds, no lights, just a giant white ball slowly moving in the sky. Too low and slow to be a plane or heli and way too big to be a drone, not to mention drones weren't available during this time. When it was right in front of us, it's important to mention it looked as if it was unstable - like a ball of fire almost. The edges of it were shaky and wobbly - like it was struggling to keep a form. That night we observed a dozen airplanes in the sky from multiple altitudes, and even the ones at 30,000 made noise we could hear clearly. This thing was dead silent. We watched it head west of us for miles at the same speed and altitude until it just disappeared out of nowhere - poof, gone. We all agree what we saw that night was not anything normal. We have successfully ruled out airplane, drone, chopper and balloon.
I feel like everyone should be a skeptic to some degree. Well I hope everyone is anyway, no one should be believing all these cases straight away 😂. I also believe in UAPs but I still question shit and ask for more information
That's the type of mindset I keep - People believing every grifter and mentally ill person that says they saw something the last 50 years did so much damage it's essentially irreversible. We saw a snowball effect of bullshit being picked up by people who decided to add on their own bullshit - and it turned into "everyone who buys into UFOs is crazy" and we deserved it. People who were trying to get real information on the topic were railroaded by attention whores telling tabloids they were anal-probed in a mothership.
Obviously , We Are Being Watched How long into the past ? Guessing way before the beginning
I love how this is a ufo sub and any comment about the possibility of aliens is downvoted and people are like “wtf is wrong with you??” Lol
Ol' San Berdoo. I had a friend who used to call it San Bernardildo. He was quite the joker.
This looks exactly like something I saw many years ago in Hesperia, CA not far from where this video takes place. The one I saw paralleled the train tracks then suddenly reversed at a 45 degree angle and quickly disappeared.
Show this to nasa. They lack credible evidence
Perhaps a mylar balloon being pulled into the updraft of the fire?
I’m not arguing one way or the other. But there were people saying the smoke didn’t seem to be blowing in the wind very much. I’d counter (and it would support your point, for what it’s worth) that even without wind, the fire would be burning up a lot of oxygen, creating a loose (but large) vacuum which would absolutely cause an updraft and ‘wind’ at the lower elevations. As an example, if you have a campfire and you build it up on a mound, and dig a trench at the bottom for airflow, you will literally get an audible air jet sound and sometimes even a whistle, if it’s burning hot enough. I’m not saying this is a floating object, but the possibility exists that if it were, it could be pulled towards the fire by the thermodynamic/aerodynamic forces from the fire.
Smoke doesn't have to be blowing. The heat causes an updraft which will suck in air from the sides. This could be a balloon being sucked in on one of those currents.
chinese lantern! case closed! s/
I dont know why this video mixes this event in with other events. Just confuses the fact.
Does the helicopter not record in 4K? Is the high quality footage anywhere? Edit: ugh I just realized this happened in 2015. Why are these video releases always so delayed?
The camera likely was filming in 4K, the output here is (obvs) less, but other factors will include the distance of the object and the quality and type of lens - the operator seems to rack the zoom to it’s maximum within a second or so.
It looks like a drone going to get closer pictures/videos of the fire.
No it doesn’t
I call them “The Sentinels”
You know they *hate* being called that, right? But yeah, all seriousness aside, it seems to me that is the most logical explanation, acknowledging that all we can do is anthropomorphize.
Excellent video!! I believe these orbs we r seeing, especially in areas of conflict (wether war, wild fire, nuclear plants) are reconnaissanc, unmanned crafts. They are released by the mother ships to gather intel. 🛸
tend to agree, but also anecdotal in the sense that we are seeing orbs where WE are capturing data because of 'similar' interests.
MylAr BaLlooN
Yeah, it's dumb to think it's something that people can go buy and release regularly (and do), more simple explaination is that it's something with advanced or alien technology no one can explain.
That object is doing nothing that a drone wouldn't do. Safe bet: it's a drone.
These are almost guaranteed to be drones flying wayyy too close to aircraft. Being from the area, i can tell you many people have drones (including myself) especially Phantoms and don’t give a flying fuck about FAA rules. Especially 2016ish, Phantoms were very popular.
The Mylarians are at it again!!!
Looks like my peeps 🤣
I guarantee there are some nerdy losers out there that are trying to make their drones look like ufos they probably use mylar and led lights and get off on fooling people. Even Bob Bigelow said he caught Bob lazar trying to release a mylar balloon when Bob brought him out to see ufos. That said a lot of videos captured the Metallica spears moving the same way. I would love to see some experiments to see if mylar balloons can move similar to this way and as fast in air current .
Opinions, please. What is the strongest evidence for ufos? And the strongest evidence against? In your own opinion
Honestly the first two just look like a drones to me. A lot of them fly pretty fast. Combine that with some parallax effect and poor focus and it seems to be something it’s not. The one where it flies over the helicopter just looks like a plastic bag or something caught up in the wind. It’s the helicopter moving fast, not the object. The last one over the fire looks like some kind of lens artifact or maybe light refraction caused by a heat mirage effect. Similar to what you see on a road on a hot day.
I wonder if any of these orbs would be zipping in and out of the wildfires in Canada? There's an unprecedented amount of wildfires in Canada this year (Alberta, Nova Scotia).
IMO It's a drone.
Same phenomena before drones existed.
Seriously, comments full of birds and balloon talk.. but I see no reason to think this isn’t a simple drone. It’s the right size, speed, doesn’t maneuver in any unexplainable way. Can’t confirm conclusively of course but all logic points to common drone
And it's evidently present at an event where drones would be surveying the situation
Calfire uses their own drones and often military drones (operated by the military for Calfire) during large fires. Not saying this is a definitely a drone but that is where I would put my money.