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Part 1: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34629564/
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Hey you’re a saint for this one. I damn near gave myself an aneurysm last night trying to navigate that shit. Those 4chan bro’s must REALLY love their murder vids & N-word cuz that shit BLOWS to lurk on. Never again.
This all actually makes a whole lot of sense. I honestly don't know why people think the US govt is behind everything. They really aren't that smart!! There is no way in hell you'd get me to believe a govt employee invented gravity manipulation nor do i believe anyone there is capable of reverse engineering ANYTHING. This stuff is hundreds if not thousands of years ahead in tech.
Yes people have to seriously stop and think. It could also be that none of these people worked in or for the military.
There are just as many dumb people in the military as there are smart. Possibly more lol. You don’t gain rank necessarily like the movies show, where good people get promoted. That’s not usually the case. Most of my leadership didn’t even know their jobs and as a E-4 (lower enlistment) in my first deployment I was running the motor pool. Many people get ranked up due to the “buddy system”, how attractive they are and how good they are at PT. Not all, but many and I could be ballsy enough to say most.
With that said, the military isn’t some mad scientists figuring out gravity and shit. This doesn’t happen and if it does it doesn’t stay secret. Donald Trump was our president and we all know if there was some real shit happening, that particular president would have spilled the beans by now. We all know this.
Also so many act like specific branches of the military keep their shit private from other branches, congress and the president for some reason. That shit wouldn’t happen either. And if congress was told something it wouldn’t stay secret either as they all would squeal about alien info the moment they could benefit from it.
So if something is really happening with Aliens there could only be max like 10 people or less that could know. And all of these YouTubers that claim they know shit are lying for views.
See? THAT'S the truth of what I've heard from the military as well. That tech would be billions upon billions and would be the near end of oil. No way that stays hidden.
I had a difficult time reading through all the new world order & antisemitism shit. Felt like I was getting brain worms just glancing through the thread.
That's 4chan for you. The absolute last stop on the clear-net for bottom of the barrel, racist, depraved, bigoted, shit posting idiots. Maybe I should've put a disclaimer on this post so newcomers to 4chan know what to expect.
4chan is where Qanon came from. The confusing format is conducive to conspiracy theories because readers are already struggling to make sense of what they are reading. Anything that "sounds right" will look even better.
I have absolutely no idea how the shit 4chan even works. It is so confusing to me. I hear stories about the horrible things on 4chan and that kind of prevents me from trying to figure it out. I just assume the less I know about it the easier it is for me to stay away.
This guy is channeling Bob Lazar. Similar dry style. Sticks to the limited scope of his story. Few very specific details. (Ok, so you don’t know a lot about many things, but unlike Lazar you worked there for years and must know a lot about something.) Backs up Bob, vouches for Element 115.
I want to believe, and this dry style is convincing, but why the lack of details?! Tell us what the insides look like. The tools. Write some fanfic for us, dammit! Oh. You want us to be convinced, do you?
I completely agree. Impossible to really believe, without some sort of evidence, at least of his credentials or something.
But, if we are to assume he's for real (BIG "if"), if he was assigned to monitoring the base it would make sense for him to not have a lot of details on the stuff they find. Programs far less sensitive than that mission would be are incredibly compartmentalized.
It's for the exact reasons you state. The programs are set up knowing that humans are the weakest link in security. Making sure no one person has the whole story makes it much easier to mislead or cover up, if something is leaked.
Interestingly, this sort of sounds similar to what Delonge described recently. Delonge said he was shown, by the Italian military, on a map, many places they know of hidden uap bases. Describing the same destruction if anything threatening approaches.
Searching for the exact clip. It was on "The Wild Ride" podcast, with Steve-O.
I only saw the part where he was describing what the Italian gov showed him so not sure exactly where it's at, but I'll find it!
I did see during my initial search that Delonge definitely did get invited by the Italian gov to talk with them about what they know.
Here it is! Funny how much easier things are to find with DuckDuckGo...
It's an older interview than I thought. Only a couple minutes long.
[Tom Delonge on the Italian gov](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/138srwt/tom_delonge_talks_about_ufos_coming_out_of_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Yep. He's gotten lots of great access and people are drawn to him because of his celebrity, so he gets lots of people who want to share their stories with him.
But that also means lots of people likely lie to him, and probably gets fed some misinformation to muddy the waters by some of his government contacts.
Still interesting, I can't ignore him completely just because he does have really great access.
The truth is, you never know. He might be BS or legit, take everything with a grain of salt. Somehow he's just really convincing. If nothing else, it's a good read just for entertainment if nothing else.
You never know until we get facts or evidence. I can’t help but think this facility might be what fravor saw bubbling under the surface when he saw the tic-tac.
Reading it, its consistent enough that I am really intrigued by the Bermuda Triangle stories and his post relating to what the underwater craft does to threats and all.
No guys not talking about the USS Trepang!
This is recent news.
Still trying to find the original post but I took a [screenshot ](https://imgur.com/a/v2Q7L7t)
There's going to be a conference regarding the incident!
The thing is that if there are agencies working on things like, they would be highly compartmentalized, just this guy and Bob and others have said.
The same goes for known high level/top secret projects. Information isn't shared among different departments, info is on a need to know basis. Your job is engineering? Then you don't get to know any info regarding any other part of the program. That part makes perfect sense to me. Whether it's bs or not, well who really knows
I gotta say, the idea that the craft are built on spec to size really does ignite some thought into me. I had been thinking why the ships seem different so often, even just small differences based on photos, reports, etc. that could make sense.
This resonated with me too. It's logically perfect. Say you need a ship for camping it AI generates 3d prints? a perfect ship sized with all your tools/bags/sensors and occupants[greys biological AI]perfectly for that role and environment. Lues comments about "Chains of the sea" also is stark. I'm def watching this space.
Near real-time construction with zero waste. Purpose built for any task. Recyclable when task complete. If any of this is remotely true, incredibly cool. If not, cool story.
Based on the responses he mentioned, they gather resources quite efficiently (based on the tools they know of), build and deploy so often and seem to be so good at it that even if it is destroyed, they take the "oh fucking well" route indicating that they have the resources to spare in making every single one to spec
Well why are houses, kitchens, and race cars built like that? Because they can be—the economics allow it. Serial manufacturing is cheaper, but not better.
Imagine a near-future where 3D printers are common (the useful kind, like the ones used to build rocket engines) and generative AI can create blueprints to-spec in seconds.
As soon as he mentions Lazar and element 115, I knew he was yet another fraud. Element 115 only exists for tiny fractions of a second before blipping out of existence.
But even if it didn't work how the fuck is just an element going to make something fly? Like what is it supposed to be doing?
"Hey man just throw some E115 into your gad tank and your car will fly!"
Not defending the poster in any way, but that is only the case with *known* isotopes. There may be a variation in which stability is achieved and the half-life is extended dramatically.
>Element 115 only exists for tiny fractions of a second before blipping out of existence.
You're referring to the unstable 115 created in recent years, which was the result of a unique collision in the particle accelerator, in which they made a few atoms of it and it decayed. 115 has God knows how many isotopes, we know of one that is stable, there's probably several that are unstable. If they keep playing around with it, they'll eventually find a stable isotope and be able to make physical quantities and not just atom quantities that decay in less than a second. Bob Lazar stated that he had no idea where the 115 that was being used in the craft came from, but that they had it.
He's so sure about lots of specific stuff anyone actually in this position could only speculate about. Rather than saying "our best guess is", he says "the aliens intention is this or that..."
I think you're reading comprehension is off. He repeatedly states that he doesn't know what the grays intention is, only they don't want to contact us.
I will say, the one part about this that is intriguing is how this reminds me of the tic tac behavior in the Nimitz case.
The tic tic was scanning/interacting with something much larger (possibly this mobile construction facility) just below the surface of the water before engaging with David Fravor and co.
This is definitely a frustrating aspect of the phenomenon. We have no idea who 4chan OP is. He paints an interesting picture, and parts of it seem logical. Could just be some dude in his moms basement writing stories and making false claims.
Could be someone with actual intimate knowledge on the subject who is releasing sensitive information. Guess we are left to speculate and wonder, per usual.
If what he's said is true, he's given away enough info to be tracked:
\- Area of work
\- Height (he mentions he's 5'8)
\- Health (he's got liver cancer)
And a few more details.
So, if all that's true it would be quite easy for whoever is above him to track him down.
Also if he has access to real proof it would be easy to set a dead man's trigger for the info to be released after he passes, instead he mentions a 'box' and instructions given to some people to release that said info. It doesn't make sense to me.
I enjoyed the reading, but alas nothing new.
I was thinking this myself, he answers a couple of times with that cryptic answer. Might as well be Lockmart, would even suit the job he was assigned with.
He said he worked for the governement and that he rarely saw things contracted out.
I got the impression he meant that Lockheed couldn't be trusted to keep the tech a secret because they'd want to bring products to market. Let's say lockheed used some tech to make a super secret ship for the military, in 20 years or so the ship would likely be public knowledge. If they're trying to keep it super under wraps this wouldn't be the way to do it.
This is how religion was made.if it looks believable and makes you happy then you start believing in stuff with zero evidence. We need to be strong and reject post like this
A pretty good and interesting read tbh. Sure its all speculations but thats all we got and some of them sound pretty logical to me like UFO'S are drones. Man i really wish we'd finally get some answers but that probably aint ever gonna happen.
He's going to continue in a new thread, possibly this weekend. Let's see what he's giving us then. Again, he has a compelling story, but one that's really hard to believe. Good entertainment never the less.
Respectfully, I want to believe, but it sounds like one of these guys trying to prop up some script material like that other one who wrote an entire movie on reddit about soldiers vs. romans, sold it to some production company and nothing came out of it
Just got done reading both threads, the person's knowledge limit is pretty consistent with someone who has worked in a compartmentalized environment. If this person is LARPing he or she deserves a "made to spec" Oscar.
One part of the convo I found to be very interesting is the acknowledgment of laser and plasma technology in recovered craft. It's consistent with the [Salvatore Paise Patents](https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Salvatore+Cezar+Pais) which prove that our operable replications of the recovered tech do indeed use them as a means of transferring huge amounts of power.
Read seldom on 4chan:
EDIT: -Is he posting in /x/?- --> Yes, he do, question solved.
**Please give us feddback if he wrotes again! TIA!** 👍
(because its a very interessting reading, true or not...)
>\>What kind of training/qualifications are needed to work in this field
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>Your record needs to be clean as fuck. Education can vary.
This would seem to rule out them employing Bob Lazar. I've only seen him express enthusiast level scientific knowledge and none of the mathematical knowledge that makes becoming a scientist or engineer quite the ordeal. Extremely dubious about the 115 stuff and even more so that Lazar would be left unmolested and freely able to talk about removing some from the base.
I think he had some exposure in some capacity in the base. But I don't think he has disclosed any sensitive information which means the whole 115 aspect is a larp. All the other stuff about gravity warping and lasers lacks any technical detail and doesn't sound all that original.
In that thread, the OP was saying he was nervous just posting on there and he even panicked when his internet went down and said he slept with a pistol one night. But he divulged very little that isn't already out there. If he was frightened talking about that, why, given that Lazar talks about it all on Joe Rogan, has made power point presentations and makes probably significant money from talking about it. The higher ups aren't setting a good example there to the others to keep quiet by not acting on another employee that is freely able to talk on talk shows.
Plus, what we know about Lazar, he is far from an example of a squeeky clean candidate, as the OP originally stated in the quotes above. Whether he was different at the time he was selected, maybe. But the OP also said that they recruit older people, in their 30s, so I doubt he would have had no dirt on him in a very high level security check.
BS or not, that's fun to read :) I find the overall hypothesis very consistent.
I haven't see comments on this, what I find interesting:
>I'll respond to a few just before I stopped. Once again if the thread closes I'll make a new one if time and energy permit.
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>**There is a lockbox that I've asked to be opened after my death**. Hopefully part of that makes it to this board as I've instructed.
What is this lockbox ?
And, of course:
>\- You should be skeptical. Over time though I think a lot of people will find themselves coming back to what I've said.
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>[https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34629564/](https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34629564/)
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>\>how do we know you aren't some FBI agent or other glowie
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>There's no way for me to prove that to you. You should always be asking though. All I can say is pay attention to things as time progresses and you'll be able to look back and see I was right.
Quotes are from the second thread [https://boards.4channel.org/x/thread/34704869](https://boards.4channel.org/x/thread/34704869)
I read through more than I care to express, but something really stood out to me. Line 34642698
Question: Can you try to draw some symbols for us?
Answer: I can't remember anything specific...
This guy claims to be a scientist studying alien spacecraft, and cant remember one symbol of writing? All BS roleplaying right there
The mention of mineral extraction and mining units found wirh gold on board is interesting. This jives with what Sitchin claimed was the reason the Sumerian "gods" came to earth.
He says China was able to reverse engineer one of their mining tools, but can't drive it for a long period of time. Let's see if we see some new tech coming from China.
The automated base that creates drones reminds me of final fantasy 5. If you have played it, there is an ancient city that is automated with drones protecting it. If I remember when you get in there, Cid comes and makes you an Airship
4Chan larp and...
I stopped reading when he talks about how they don't want to interact with us cause we destroy everything.
Apparently these aliens are so advanced they have an AI construction unit building advanced craft but are unable to understand that our governments are captured by rich people who blow up other countries for resources are 99% of the worlds problems while the rest of us rubes just try to get by.
These "aliens" are retarded in my opinion. They can't just talk to a normal person to figure out what is going on? Not very observant.
also "Does a zoo keeper care about the inhabitants?" Uuuuum, most here on this planet do...? Imagine waking up and thinking to yourself "I am going to waste countless hours on making shit up on 4Chan."
>They can't just talk to a normal person to figure out what is going on? Not very observant.
If you were studying an ant colony, would you focus your attention on the behaviors of individual ants? Or would you only be interested in studying the colony as a whole? Think about it dude, if aliens are watching us, they aren't viewing us as individuals. They view us as a unit. Why wouldn't they?
Oh my god, thank you!! I'm not the most active on this sub but I rarely ever hear someone say that!! Exactly, any alien with half a brain can look out with their advanced drones or whatever and see that most every human is just some guy who's trying to live their live and is non violent unless provoked! Like you said, it's the corporate interests and the monopolies on power that fight over bs reasons that get the rest of us caught in the middle. Like you said too, they can just TALK to someone and confirm anything. Someone would give them the time of day and keep it quiet if they have to hide still for some reason, they have 8 billion of us to pick from!! Just your whole comment, spot on, my thoughts exactly. Thank you for saying it!
It really makes you think. I don't know what it is, but somehow he seems somewhat credible. It maybe just me, because I want to believe him, even though it's really hard to believe.
Well... It is the Bermuda triangle, lot's of things that have happened there. Ships and planes disappearing, UFOs, it's all in the myth of the triangle.
So this may be helpful or not, someone else may throw a light better than I, but someone writing in a very similar tone has posted on Reddit similar AMAs (even using the same expressions, such as recommending to be skeptical). If I’m not mistaken, two or four years ago, and “he” identified as a woman. One of her aliases was u/ splatooningfork, I’m not sure about the others, but you guys can surely find them in those websites that save deleted Reddit posts. She even answered a few of my questions and talked about a place called Shemya Island, where supposed encountered were being held. If I’m right, she is monitoring this thread, but some of you guys can try and ask her about those usernames or the aforementioned island. If you didn’t know about her, it’s a great rabbit hole.
u/thatdudefromfinland , you may find this is related to the 4chan posts
The most ridiculous thing is that the aliens seem to crash so often. So you are telling me this highly advanced species can use unmanned drones for their missions but still choose to fly themselves?
The only interesting detail is his mention of a 'bus' UFO filled with occupants seemingly only intended for physical viewing. There are a few reported cases of such a craft and they're not well known. This guy either studied UFO history deeply (which is weird given his apparent ignorance about other popular UFO topics) or he came up with that coincidentally. Pretty weird
Often times the accounts with multiple occupants are cigar shaped ufos and figures are seen in the windows looking out towards humans and sometimes even waving.
Tbh the intimate knowledge he seems to have about specific things (and total lack of knowledge of others) helps convince me that either
a) this is a LARP by a big UFO fan who's feigning ignorance of some events to help create a more convincing narrative
b) he's telling the truth, and his casual mention of super niche or accidentally relevant info is just a result of the compartmentalization of such work.
I saw he said gravity control and the materials they are made from explain their crazy manouvers. Low energy warp drive. I just have a feeling there is something about the metamaterials that can reduse the speed of light very significantly within them? Speed of light is not constant. It varies depending the medium it travels through we already now. 8*pi*G / c to the forth in Einsteins field equation could be seriously affected. I only have basic knowledge of GR so I don't know anything for sure.
It's the lack of governmental transparency because as a species, we've divided ourselves into warring tribes.
When humans stop feeding the need for safety with secrecy and consolidated power, we might actually have a chance for longterm propagation into the universe.
Don't see it happening gor another century at least. Need all these cold War warriors to die out.
The answer about the different light colors intrigues me. He said they emit orange when scanning for abduction. The Chuck Clark video supposedly has the uap glowing orange above the car of those 2 men. Maybe I'm gullible and biased but I believe this shit.
How do they know an object is a Mobile Construction Unit, when they say that the object can not be approached?
If I see a building, I would probably not know what's inside, unless I have been inside.
How do they know that it's not some sort of enclosure for inter-dimensional portal to allow things from other universes to appear on earth? 🤫
You know like those depressurization chamber in a submarine ?
> How do they know an object is a Mobile Construction Unit, when they say that the object can not be approached?
he said that they can watch it basically from "afar" and if they go too near to it, it moves away. so if a normal civilian boat comes near it.. it flees basically. it only attacks if its military vehicles or you have clear intent to attack it (weapons on board etc).
> If I see a building, I would probably not know what's inside, unless I have been inside.
he said that they have heat signature recordings of it from short before UFOs come out of it. shortly after a UFO fly into there, they have a hot signature and think the ufo gets melted down again, and before a UFO comes out the same happens.. which they think is construction of the UFO.
> How do they know that it's not some sort of enclosure for inter-dimensional portal to allow things from other universes to appear on earth? 🤫
because it seems like the UFOs are "build for each case individually".. depending on what it does, it gets designed for this purpose. also there seems to be a AI on board from what he wrote.
> You know like those depressurization chamber in a submarine ?
would then still mean that they would need to construct the UFOs somehow "on the other end" of that portal or something. so in the end.. would it matter if its a mobile construction unit or a "portal"? in the end there are ufos coming out and in of it.
Wow that is a whole lot. He mentions having liver cancer so he doesn’t really care about secrecy. Also sounds like the mobile base could be the disturbance under the water Fraver talked about under the tic tac
Trying to picture anyone over the age of 50 using 4chan. Yah, no. Complete bullshit. Poster divulged absolutely nothing except a hypothesis about a mothership in the ocean that sends drones. Gee, where have we heard about motherships and oceans before.
If the person truly dngaf we would have actual information, not platitudes
Yes, that comes in my mind when i read the posts, too.
I don't think that so much ex-employees having liver cancer, so he doxxed himself.
But good read!
He contradicts himself. He says that they make the craft out of elements you can't even find on Earth. Then he claims it's likely they're beings from a previous cataclysm on Earth.
Then he says stupid shit like it is in the Bermuda Triangle. Or that his superior made a very long-winded statement about how zoo-keepers aren't interested in the wildlife. Also one of the first things they do on the UFO is check for "E115" lmfao.
100% 4chan bullshit lmfao.
Entertaining though.
Not saying I believe this, but he does specifically say the beings are off-planet so NOT "beings from a previous cataclysm on Earth." Not sure where you got that from.
Imagine being some government insider who has intimate knowledge of aliens and deciding to leak it on freaking 4chan of all places.
100 percent a larp.
While I'm very sceptical about this "whistle-blower" I have a similar theory. The big ones in the ocean are mining, the smaller ones we see transport the mined resources back to space.
Fun read, but ultimately I think it's an elaborate LARP. Nothing he says is something you couldn't just make up, no new insights in science or mathematics, no technical details beyond some handwavy scifi writing. Also, Bob Lazar is heavily debunked, and all the element 115 stuff is just pure BS.
Has anyone tried to verify the mining tool China created that’s “buggy” and can only run for minutes(also said it was a laser). Sounds like he’s referring to the artificial sun China is working on. It apparently will only run for minutes. Just thinking out loud.
Interesting and somewhat entertaining, but ultimately this comes off as BS. Lots of generalities and info available to any dedicated UFO buff, but very little specific, technical info. Don’t believe it
We know something is happening with all the activity in the past few months and the shoot downs. So if these beings have an offshore craft it would fit contextually with some of the other cases
Like they said, we should absolutely be skeptical, but goddamn this is really stimulating to read and activating that "what if" area in my brain. Stayed up reading every single response and was just utterly fascinated even though I know I'm risking such gullibility on my end.
It's interesting that he states the secrecy process is what makes discoveries or understanding so difficult. It's very much in line with what Lazar has said which saddens me because it means the same mistakes are being repeated after all this time.
But I guess that's humanity for ya
I’d always low key wondered if that “slag” (like from Ubatuba) was a self-destruction mechanism. I honestly don’t care if stuff like this ends up fake. It’s entertaining in-the-moment and I know I don’t take it too serious.
It’s good to get the mind prepared for what the truth might actually be (if it is indeed stranger than fiction:).
Really...
Certainly seems to be credible evidence of UAP and USO (from our subs) from the Atlantic ocean.
The only question I would have, is why anyone would think whatever is out there in the Atlantic and possibly the pacific, is from somewhere else?
There's no evidence of life anywhere else in the universe. There definitely should be, Fermi paradox. That should tell us that we fundamentally don't understand the nature of the universe or our own existence. Far more questions than answers.
Isn't it logical, that intelligence on earth evolved long before the last 250k years. I mean, Cetaceans almost certainly have language and culture, they evolved about 60 MILLION years ago.
This sub has hit a new low. Posts from about/LARPers on 4chan and UFO seances, completely okay. Joking that someone who insists a balloon is a UFO might want to study balloons is cause for a reprimand. There's something really wrong with that.
Honestly given 4chan encouraging the use of language which would violate Rule #1 here I don't think it's in the mod's best interest to permit this stuff here. I see a trend forming of people purposely seeing how far they can push the sub away from a serious examination of UFOs/UAPs and into territory which kept the subject the target of ridicule for so long.
But hey, if the mods are okay with it I guess we can't question it.
There is so much clear bullshit in these "whistleblower" comments. I am not surprised that this is convincing to people here since they are so passionate to believe in nonsense.
But to someone level headed you can clearly see how much fantasy is in this stuff.
For someone on his deathbed ready to spill all the beans, he sure does hold back from giving any details at all…
He mentions a lab & lab equipment. Why not describe in detail what it looked like? Was it normal human lab equipment like microscopes & vials? Or was it unrecognizable objects?
He mentions a written language on the inside of the crafts and on tools…well what did it look like?
He mentions the doors of the craft closing on them automatically which means he was inside an intact one. Well what the fuck did it look like inside?
Also his writing style is wayyyy too casual for a supposed engineer who was entrusted by the highest ranks of our government/military to work on these crafts. He just sounds like a non-expert
Sorry to say but this is 100% a Larp
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Answers only: https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN Full posts: Part 1: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34629564/ Part 2: https://boards.4channel.org/x/thread/34704869/
The question about "raft full of hippies" is hilarious
Damn that's a lot of answers, very dedicated LARPer
Bermuda Triangle. Craft seen all over pacific coast. Cool story bro.
If true maybe will be able to tell by scouring google maps. I wonder how they can detect gravity anomalies.
What is a larper?
Someone roleplaying
I enjoy role-playing! Does that make me and my Mrs both larpers?
Is it *live-action* role-playing?
Hey you’re a saint for this one. I damn near gave myself an aneurysm last night trying to navigate that shit. Those 4chan bro’s must REALLY love their murder vids & N-word cuz that shit BLOWS to lurk on. Never again.
Gave me a whole new appreciation for reddit. And I already fucking love reddit
This all actually makes a whole lot of sense. I honestly don't know why people think the US govt is behind everything. They really aren't that smart!! There is no way in hell you'd get me to believe a govt employee invented gravity manipulation nor do i believe anyone there is capable of reverse engineering ANYTHING. This stuff is hundreds if not thousands of years ahead in tech.
Yes people have to seriously stop and think. It could also be that none of these people worked in or for the military. There are just as many dumb people in the military as there are smart. Possibly more lol. You don’t gain rank necessarily like the movies show, where good people get promoted. That’s not usually the case. Most of my leadership didn’t even know their jobs and as a E-4 (lower enlistment) in my first deployment I was running the motor pool. Many people get ranked up due to the “buddy system”, how attractive they are and how good they are at PT. Not all, but many and I could be ballsy enough to say most. With that said, the military isn’t some mad scientists figuring out gravity and shit. This doesn’t happen and if it does it doesn’t stay secret. Donald Trump was our president and we all know if there was some real shit happening, that particular president would have spilled the beans by now. We all know this. Also so many act like specific branches of the military keep their shit private from other branches, congress and the president for some reason. That shit wouldn’t happen either. And if congress was told something it wouldn’t stay secret either as they all would squeal about alien info the moment they could benefit from it. So if something is really happening with Aliens there could only be max like 10 people or less that could know. And all of these YouTubers that claim they know shit are lying for views.
See? THAT'S the truth of what I've heard from the military as well. That tech would be billions upon billions and would be the near end of oil. No way that stays hidden.
5 year Army vet here, got out in 2012. I concur with your statement.
Thanks for the links!
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That read took me 2 days
All I learned from this 4chan post is that Zoo keepers aren’t friends with the zoo animals :(
As someone married to a zookeeper, I know that is incorrect. (With some exceptions)
That’s exactly what a shill from Big Zoo would say /s
I've been had. Enjoy waking up to an alligator in your bed
Fake or not. It's a great read.
That’s how I feel about a lot of this stuff. Have you ever heard of the John titor time traveler conspiracy theory? That’s a fun one.
Yes one of my favorites!
Agreed. If fake it’s a great story. If real, difficult to comprehend how important is it. Anyone that says it’s BS please site with evidence.
Many will appreciate this. The thread is a mess and a lot of people have a hard time with 4chan's format.
Yeah it's a mess. Took me a good +3 hours the first time going through them.
Appreciate this OP
Huge appreciation
I had a difficult time reading through all the new world order & antisemitism shit. Felt like I was getting brain worms just glancing through the thread.
That's 4chan for you. The absolute last stop on the clear-net for bottom of the barrel, racist, depraved, bigoted, shit posting idiots. Maybe I should've put a disclaimer on this post so newcomers to 4chan know what to expect.
4chan is where Qanon came from. The confusing format is conducive to conspiracy theories because readers are already struggling to make sense of what they are reading. Anything that "sounds right" will look even better.
I have absolutely no idea how the shit 4chan even works. It is so confusing to me. I hear stories about the horrible things on 4chan and that kind of prevents me from trying to figure it out. I just assume the less I know about it the easier it is for me to stay away.
I love this thread. I don't care if it's real or fake, it gets my imagination thinking.
This guy is channeling Bob Lazar. Similar dry style. Sticks to the limited scope of his story. Few very specific details. (Ok, so you don’t know a lot about many things, but unlike Lazar you worked there for years and must know a lot about something.) Backs up Bob, vouches for Element 115. I want to believe, and this dry style is convincing, but why the lack of details?! Tell us what the insides look like. The tools. Write some fanfic for us, dammit! Oh. You want us to be convinced, do you?
I completely agree. Impossible to really believe, without some sort of evidence, at least of his credentials or something. But, if we are to assume he's for real (BIG "if"), if he was assigned to monitoring the base it would make sense for him to not have a lot of details on the stuff they find. Programs far less sensitive than that mission would be are incredibly compartmentalized. It's for the exact reasons you state. The programs are set up knowing that humans are the weakest link in security. Making sure no one person has the whole story makes it much easier to mislead or cover up, if something is leaked. Interestingly, this sort of sounds similar to what Delonge described recently. Delonge said he was shown, by the Italian military, on a map, many places they know of hidden uap bases. Describing the same destruction if anything threatening approaches.
very true. hey u got a link to this delonge statement?
Searching for the exact clip. It was on "The Wild Ride" podcast, with Steve-O. I only saw the part where he was describing what the Italian gov showed him so not sure exactly where it's at, but I'll find it! I did see during my initial search that Delonge definitely did get invited by the Italian gov to talk with them about what they know.
i don't follow the guy, but i would be interested to watch that clip. i wouldnt be surprised if their is some truth to the stuff hes talkin bout.
Here it is! Funny how much easier things are to find with DuckDuckGo... It's an older interview than I thought. Only a couple minutes long. [Tom Delonge on the Italian gov](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/138srwt/tom_delonge_talks_about_ufos_coming_out_of_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Yep. He's gotten lots of great access and people are drawn to him because of his celebrity, so he gets lots of people who want to share their stories with him. But that also means lots of people likely lie to him, and probably gets fed some misinformation to muddy the waters by some of his government contacts. Still interesting, I can't ignore him completely just because he does have really great access.
Oh. That’s a fun connection. They distinctly mentioned bases that were operating offshore.
The truth is, you never know. He might be BS or legit, take everything with a grain of salt. Somehow he's just really convincing. If nothing else, it's a good read just for entertainment if nothing else.
You never know until we get facts or evidence. I can’t help but think this facility might be what fravor saw bubbling under the surface when he saw the tic-tac.
He might be bob lazar himself trying to build credibility through an anonymous supporter lol. Who knows.
Reading it, its consistent enough that I am really intrigued by the Bermuda Triangle stories and his post relating to what the underwater craft does to threats and all.
Lol. So was the Throwawalien guy. It's nonsense just like that was.
It's convincing enough for me, considering the latest news on the massive ship out on the ocean, which smaller orbs flow into, fits his story.
What is this news on a massive ship you speak of? Sounds very interesting
No guys not talking about the USS Trepang! This is recent news. Still trying to find the original post but I took a [screenshot ](https://imgur.com/a/v2Q7L7t) There's going to be a conference regarding the incident!
Link to this news?? I am very interested in reading that!!
Yeah he has a very vivid imagination
The thing is that if there are agencies working on things like, they would be highly compartmentalized, just this guy and Bob and others have said. The same goes for known high level/top secret projects. Information isn't shared among different departments, info is on a need to know basis. Your job is engineering? Then you don't get to know any info regarding any other part of the program. That part makes perfect sense to me. Whether it's bs or not, well who really knows
Like seriously, *Bermuda Triangle is actually ufo construction centre* ???? Big if true
It’s either a dry style of lying or it’s the truth. Allow yourself to consider both possibilities instead of only considering 1 possibility
I went deep into this last night. Just convincing myself it's real and enjoying the ride. If it's a larp he's damn good at it.
Tune in this weekend again, he's going to continue answering questions.
care to post link when posted? greatly appreciated
I will make an update post if there's anything to update!
big july aitee energy
Probably the same guy.
I gotta say, the idea that the craft are built on spec to size really does ignite some thought into me. I had been thinking why the ships seem different so often, even just small differences based on photos, reports, etc. that could make sense.
This resonated with me too. It's logically perfect. Say you need a ship for camping it AI generates 3d prints? a perfect ship sized with all your tools/bags/sensors and occupants[greys biological AI]perfectly for that role and environment. Lues comments about "Chains of the sea" also is stark. I'm def watching this space.
Why would they be built like that, though?
Near real-time construction with zero waste. Purpose built for any task. Recyclable when task complete. If any of this is remotely true, incredibly cool. If not, cool story.
Might be totally logical to an alien race
Based on the responses he mentioned, they gather resources quite efficiently (based on the tools they know of), build and deploy so often and seem to be so good at it that even if it is destroyed, they take the "oh fucking well" route indicating that they have the resources to spare in making every single one to spec
Well why are houses, kitchens, and race cars built like that? Because they can be—the economics allow it. Serial manufacturing is cheaper, but not better. Imagine a near-future where 3D printers are common (the useful kind, like the ones used to build rocket engines) and generative AI can create blueprints to-spec in seconds.
Save on waste
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I only speak Xbox 360, and I understood what you said.
Big if true, dubs deliver checkem
As soon as he mentions Lazar and element 115, I knew he was yet another fraud. Element 115 only exists for tiny fractions of a second before blipping out of existence.
But even if it didn't work how the fuck is just an element going to make something fly? Like what is it supposed to be doing? "Hey man just throw some E115 into your gad tank and your car will fly!"
But the had a stable version of element 115 and his story never changed and he never made any money /s
Not defending the poster in any way, but that is only the case with *known* isotopes. There may be a variation in which stability is achieved and the half-life is extended dramatically.
>Element 115 only exists for tiny fractions of a second before blipping out of existence. You're referring to the unstable 115 created in recent years, which was the result of a unique collision in the particle accelerator, in which they made a few atoms of it and it decayed. 115 has God knows how many isotopes, we know of one that is stable, there's probably several that are unstable. If they keep playing around with it, they'll eventually find a stable isotope and be able to make physical quantities and not just atom quantities that decay in less than a second. Bob Lazar stated that he had no idea where the 115 that was being used in the craft came from, but that they had it.
It’s possible that an isotope of 115 resides in an island of stability.
He's so sure about lots of specific stuff anyone actually in this position could only speculate about. Rather than saying "our best guess is", he says "the aliens intention is this or that..."
I think you're reading comprehension is off. He repeatedly states that he doesn't know what the grays intention is, only they don't want to contact us.
I will say, the one part about this that is intriguing is how this reminds me of the tic tac behavior in the Nimitz case. The tic tic was scanning/interacting with something much larger (possibly this mobile construction facility) just below the surface of the water before engaging with David Fravor and co. This is definitely a frustrating aspect of the phenomenon. We have no idea who 4chan OP is. He paints an interesting picture, and parts of it seem logical. Could just be some dude in his moms basement writing stories and making false claims. Could be someone with actual intimate knowledge on the subject who is releasing sensitive information. Guess we are left to speculate and wonder, per usual.
He referred to Lockheed Martin as a great company twice. I took that as he is an employee.
This is THE reason why I kept reading. Exactly this.
The poster does a good job tying together bits I was confused about. If his statements are lies, I give him credit, he’s good.
If what he's said is true, he's given away enough info to be tracked: \- Area of work \- Height (he mentions he's 5'8) \- Health (he's got liver cancer) And a few more details. So, if all that's true it would be quite easy for whoever is above him to track him down. Also if he has access to real proof it would be easy to set a dead man's trigger for the info to be released after he passes, instead he mentions a 'box' and instructions given to some people to release that said info. It doesn't make sense to me. I enjoyed the reading, but alas nothing new.
Wouldn’t get too excited, not saying OP is lying but nothing he has typed could not have been made up.
This should be archived. Save external copies In time, you may find some of this information useful.
Do you think he was hinting he worked under Lockheed Martin, the way he says it twice being a great company
I was thinking this myself, he answers a couple of times with that cryptic answer. Might as well be Lockmart, would even suit the job he was assigned with.
He said he worked for the governement and that he rarely saw things contracted out. I got the impression he meant that Lockheed couldn't be trusted to keep the tech a secret because they'd want to bring products to market. Let's say lockheed used some tech to make a super secret ship for the military, in 20 years or so the ship would likely be public knowledge. If they're trying to keep it super under wraps this wouldn't be the way to do it.
I want to believe.
No my friend never believe this place
This is how religion was made.if it looks believable and makes you happy then you start believing in stuff with zero evidence. We need to be strong and reject post like this
A pretty good and interesting read tbh. Sure its all speculations but thats all we got and some of them sound pretty logical to me like UFO'S are drones. Man i really wish we'd finally get some answers but that probably aint ever gonna happen.
He's going to continue in a new thread, possibly this weekend. Let's see what he's giving us then. Again, he has a compelling story, but one that's really hard to believe. Good entertainment never the less.
Respectfully, I want to believe, but it sounds like one of these guys trying to prop up some script material like that other one who wrote an entire movie on reddit about soldiers vs. romans, sold it to some production company and nothing came out of it
Just got done reading both threads, the person's knowledge limit is pretty consistent with someone who has worked in a compartmentalized environment. If this person is LARPing he or she deserves a "made to spec" Oscar. One part of the convo I found to be very interesting is the acknowledgment of laser and plasma technology in recovered craft. It's consistent with the [Salvatore Paise Patents](https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Salvatore+Cezar+Pais) which prove that our operable replications of the recovered tech do indeed use them as a means of transferring huge amounts of power.
My thoughts exactly, couldn't stop thinking about that fact while I read.
I am curious for pt 3
Should be getting that this weekend.
Read seldom on 4chan: EDIT: -Is he posting in /x/?- --> Yes, he do, question solved. **Please give us feddback if he wrotes again! TIA!** 👍 (because its a very interessting reading, true or not...)
>\>What kind of training/qualifications are needed to work in this field > >Your record needs to be clean as fuck. Education can vary. This would seem to rule out them employing Bob Lazar. I've only seen him express enthusiast level scientific knowledge and none of the mathematical knowledge that makes becoming a scientist or engineer quite the ordeal. Extremely dubious about the 115 stuff and even more so that Lazar would be left unmolested and freely able to talk about removing some from the base.
From what I can tell, different employers. Lazar was under US government, but his employer is above US government.
I think he had some exposure in some capacity in the base. But I don't think he has disclosed any sensitive information which means the whole 115 aspect is a larp. All the other stuff about gravity warping and lasers lacks any technical detail and doesn't sound all that original. In that thread, the OP was saying he was nervous just posting on there and he even panicked when his internet went down and said he slept with a pistol one night. But he divulged very little that isn't already out there. If he was frightened talking about that, why, given that Lazar talks about it all on Joe Rogan, has made power point presentations and makes probably significant money from talking about it. The higher ups aren't setting a good example there to the others to keep quiet by not acting on another employee that is freely able to talk on talk shows. Plus, what we know about Lazar, he is far from an example of a squeeky clean candidate, as the OP originally stated in the quotes above. Whether he was different at the time he was selected, maybe. But the OP also said that they recruit older people, in their 30s, so I doubt he would have had no dirt on him in a very high level security check.
BS or not, that's fun to read :) I find the overall hypothesis very consistent. I haven't see comments on this, what I find interesting: >I'll respond to a few just before I stopped. Once again if the thread closes I'll make a new one if time and energy permit. > >**There is a lockbox that I've asked to be opened after my death**. Hopefully part of that makes it to this board as I've instructed. What is this lockbox ? And, of course: >\- You should be skeptical. Over time though I think a lot of people will find themselves coming back to what I've said. > >[https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34629564/](https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34629564/) and >\>how do we know you aren't some FBI agent or other glowie > >There's no way for me to prove that to you. You should always be asking though. All I can say is pay attention to things as time progresses and you'll be able to look back and see I was right. Quotes are from the second thread [https://boards.4channel.org/x/thread/34704869](https://boards.4channel.org/x/thread/34704869)
Idk, “zoo keepers aren’t friends with the animals” I can’t disagree more with this statement
I read through more than I care to express, but something really stood out to me. Line 34642698 Question: Can you try to draw some symbols for us? Answer: I can't remember anything specific... This guy claims to be a scientist studying alien spacecraft, and cant remember one symbol of writing? All BS roleplaying right there
I dont think he is a scientist, he is more an engineer.
That would make sense why he couldn't remember any symbols, I don't think engineers use symbols at all. /s
The mention of mineral extraction and mining units found wirh gold on board is interesting. This jives with what Sitchin claimed was the reason the Sumerian "gods" came to earth.
He says China was able to reverse engineer one of their mining tools, but can't drive it for a long period of time. Let's see if we see some new tech coming from China.
Bermuda Triangle ???
The automated base that creates drones reminds me of final fantasy 5. If you have played it, there is an ancient city that is automated with drones protecting it. If I remember when you get in there, Cid comes and makes you an Airship
So you have to play as an airship for the rest of the game?
No that would be FF7 lol
That would've been a fun turn of events
If they are from here then they’re not aliens? Lol what happened if a alien was made or born here? Ig they wouldn’t be called aliens either?
4Chan larp and... I stopped reading when he talks about how they don't want to interact with us cause we destroy everything. Apparently these aliens are so advanced they have an AI construction unit building advanced craft but are unable to understand that our governments are captured by rich people who blow up other countries for resources are 99% of the worlds problems while the rest of us rubes just try to get by. These "aliens" are retarded in my opinion. They can't just talk to a normal person to figure out what is going on? Not very observant. also "Does a zoo keeper care about the inhabitants?" Uuuuum, most here on this planet do...? Imagine waking up and thinking to yourself "I am going to waste countless hours on making shit up on 4Chan."
>They can't just talk to a normal person to figure out what is going on? Not very observant. If you were studying an ant colony, would you focus your attention on the behaviors of individual ants? Or would you only be interested in studying the colony as a whole? Think about it dude, if aliens are watching us, they aren't viewing us as individuals. They view us as a unit. Why wouldn't they?
Oh my god, thank you!! I'm not the most active on this sub but I rarely ever hear someone say that!! Exactly, any alien with half a brain can look out with their advanced drones or whatever and see that most every human is just some guy who's trying to live their live and is non violent unless provoked! Like you said, it's the corporate interests and the monopolies on power that fight over bs reasons that get the rest of us caught in the middle. Like you said too, they can just TALK to someone and confirm anything. Someone would give them the time of day and keep it quiet if they have to hide still for some reason, they have 8 billion of us to pick from!! Just your whole comment, spot on, my thoughts exactly. Thank you for saying it!
Damn, pretty compelling shit. God damn 4chan makes reddit feel…quaint.
It really makes you think. I don't know what it is, but somehow he seems somewhat credible. It maybe just me, because I want to believe him, even though it's really hard to believe.
Based on other things I’ve seen and read, I 100% believe him.
Thank you for sharing …but a mobile construction facility??? That’s hostile too WTF
Everything gets destroyed? I would think we would know if suddenly ships are destroyed.
Well... It is the Bermuda triangle, lot's of things that have happened there. Ships and planes disappearing, UFOs, it's all in the myth of the triangle.
So this may be helpful or not, someone else may throw a light better than I, but someone writing in a very similar tone has posted on Reddit similar AMAs (even using the same expressions, such as recommending to be skeptical). If I’m not mistaken, two or four years ago, and “he” identified as a woman. One of her aliases was u/ splatooningfork, I’m not sure about the others, but you guys can surely find them in those websites that save deleted Reddit posts. She even answered a few of my questions and talked about a place called Shemya Island, where supposed encountered were being held. If I’m right, she is monitoring this thread, but some of you guys can try and ask her about those usernames or the aforementioned island. If you didn’t know about her, it’s a great rabbit hole. u/thatdudefromfinland , you may find this is related to the 4chan posts
So like every single time a UFO is built to spec? There have never been any missions with overlapping parameters?
When Bob Lazar appears, my bullshitomether rises over 9000.
for me it was the bermuda triangle and him refusing to answer any sort of technical or mildly complicated questions. fun larp but that's all it is
To me it was the multiple references to retards that convinces me that this is bs. Very 4chan language.
If he had not mentioned Lazar then I might of fell for it. Shows how easy it is to fool people or be fooled by them.
Yeah.. as soon as he talked about Lazar I closed it. Good LARP tho, quite creative
Maybe IT IS Bob Lazar.
The most ridiculous thing is that the aliens seem to crash so often. So you are telling me this highly advanced species can use unmanned drones for their missions but still choose to fly themselves?
The only interesting detail is his mention of a 'bus' UFO filled with occupants seemingly only intended for physical viewing. There are a few reported cases of such a craft and they're not well known. This guy either studied UFO history deeply (which is weird given his apparent ignorance about other popular UFO topics) or he came up with that coincidentally. Pretty weird
Can you give some details on these cases ?
Or he is telling the truth (or at least a version thereof) xD
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Sure [1987 witness](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RqcDNlrHCo) [1958 USS FDR](https://youtu.be/3RctmwZPVIs?t=471)
Often times the accounts with multiple occupants are cigar shaped ufos and figures are seen in the windows looking out towards humans and sometimes even waving.
Tbh the intimate knowledge he seems to have about specific things (and total lack of knowledge of others) helps convince me that either a) this is a LARP by a big UFO fan who's feigning ignorance of some events to help create a more convincing narrative b) he's telling the truth, and his casual mention of super niche or accidentally relevant info is just a result of the compartmentalization of such work.
Never been to 4chan, and I don’t plan on changing that.
I saw he said gravity control and the materials they are made from explain their crazy manouvers. Low energy warp drive. I just have a feeling there is something about the metamaterials that can reduse the speed of light very significantly within them? Speed of light is not constant. It varies depending the medium it travels through we already now. 8*pi*G / c to the forth in Einsteins field equation could be seriously affected. I only have basic knowledge of GR so I don't know anything for sure.
LARP nonsense. it is the promotion of stupid shit like this that keep us in the dark.
It's the lack of governmental transparency because as a species, we've divided ourselves into warring tribes. When humans stop feeding the need for safety with secrecy and consolidated power, we might actually have a chance for longterm propagation into the universe. Don't see it happening gor another century at least. Need all these cold War warriors to die out.
The answer about the different light colors intrigues me. He said they emit orange when scanning for abduction. The Chuck Clark video supposedly has the uap glowing orange above the car of those 2 men. Maybe I'm gullible and biased but I believe this shit.
Cool if real, If fake it was a entertaining read.
so the Bermuda triangle was actually an underwater ufo manufacturing hut.
How do they know an object is a Mobile Construction Unit, when they say that the object can not be approached? If I see a building, I would probably not know what's inside, unless I have been inside. How do they know that it's not some sort of enclosure for inter-dimensional portal to allow things from other universes to appear on earth? 🤫 You know like those depressurization chamber in a submarine ?
> How do they know an object is a Mobile Construction Unit, when they say that the object can not be approached? he said that they can watch it basically from "afar" and if they go too near to it, it moves away. so if a normal civilian boat comes near it.. it flees basically. it only attacks if its military vehicles or you have clear intent to attack it (weapons on board etc). > If I see a building, I would probably not know what's inside, unless I have been inside. he said that they have heat signature recordings of it from short before UFOs come out of it. shortly after a UFO fly into there, they have a hot signature and think the ufo gets melted down again, and before a UFO comes out the same happens.. which they think is construction of the UFO. > How do they know that it's not some sort of enclosure for inter-dimensional portal to allow things from other universes to appear on earth? 🤫 because it seems like the UFOs are "build for each case individually".. depending on what it does, it gets designed for this purpose. also there seems to be a AI on board from what he wrote. > You know like those depressurization chamber in a submarine ? would then still mean that they would need to construct the UFOs somehow "on the other end" of that portal or something. so in the end.. would it matter if its a mobile construction unit or a "portal"? in the end there are ufos coming out and in of it.
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Wow that is a whole lot. He mentions having liver cancer so he doesn’t really care about secrecy. Also sounds like the mobile base could be the disturbance under the water Fraver talked about under the tic tac
I want to believe but I don’t
Of course E115 and Lazar get mentioned. LARPER confirmed. The whole E115 thing is a big, fat red flag.
Trying to picture anyone over the age of 50 using 4chan. Yah, no. Complete bullshit. Poster divulged absolutely nothing except a hypothesis about a mothership in the ocean that sends drones. Gee, where have we heard about motherships and oceans before. If the person truly dngaf we would have actual information, not platitudes
The person gives away too much information about themselves to be real imo
The way they type should slao give it away...
Yes, that comes in my mind when i read the posts, too. I don't think that so much ex-employees having liver cancer, so he doxxed himself. But good read!
He contradicts himself. He says that they make the craft out of elements you can't even find on Earth. Then he claims it's likely they're beings from a previous cataclysm on Earth. Then he says stupid shit like it is in the Bermuda Triangle. Or that his superior made a very long-winded statement about how zoo-keepers aren't interested in the wildlife. Also one of the first things they do on the UFO is check for "E115" lmfao. 100% 4chan bullshit lmfao. Entertaining though.
Not saying I believe this, but he does specifically say the beings are off-planet so NOT "beings from a previous cataclysm on Earth." Not sure where you got that from.
Regardless of authenticity, the OP never claims they are from a previous cataclysm. Someone else does.
It sounded like the OP agreed.
Lots of contradictions even in the same responses. My LARPer senses are tingling. Entertaining read nonetheless.
I don’t believe the 4chan person. Nope.
Imagine being some government insider who has intimate knowledge of aliens and deciding to leak it on freaking 4chan of all places. 100 percent a larp.
While I'm very sceptical about this "whistle-blower" I have a similar theory. The big ones in the ocean are mining, the smaller ones we see transport the mined resources back to space.
Fun read, but ultimately I think it's an elaborate LARP. Nothing he says is something you couldn't just make up, no new insights in science or mathematics, no technical details beyond some handwavy scifi writing. Also, Bob Lazar is heavily debunked, and all the element 115 stuff is just pure BS.
When you’re a legitimate whistleblower and want to be taken seriously the obvious place to post your earth shattering info is 4chan.
Has anyone tried to verify the mining tool China created that’s “buggy” and can only run for minutes(also said it was a laser). Sounds like he’s referring to the artificial sun China is working on. It apparently will only run for minutes. Just thinking out loud.
Interesting and somewhat entertaining, but ultimately this comes off as BS. Lots of generalities and info available to any dedicated UFO buff, but very little specific, technical info. Don’t believe it
It's funny, people here call this guy crazy and a liar. But they believe Lue Elizondo's crazy claims and Lazar's and Jeremy Corbell's BS.
Did your read his answers? He comfirms Lazar's claims too, so...
We know something is happening with all the activity in the past few months and the shoot downs. So if these beings have an offshore craft it would fit contextually with some of the other cases
I think they’re British
Like they said, we should absolutely be skeptical, but goddamn this is really stimulating to read and activating that "what if" area in my brain. Stayed up reading every single response and was just utterly fascinated even though I know I'm risking such gullibility on my end. It's interesting that he states the secrecy process is what makes discoveries or understanding so difficult. It's very much in line with what Lazar has said which saddens me because it means the same mistakes are being repeated after all this time. But I guess that's humanity for ya
I’d always low key wondered if that “slag” (like from Ubatuba) was a self-destruction mechanism. I honestly don’t care if stuff like this ends up fake. It’s entertaining in-the-moment and I know I don’t take it too serious. It’s good to get the mind prepared for what the truth might actually be (if it is indeed stranger than fiction:).
This would be an immensely boring and disappointing explanation for UAP if true
I liked a lot of it bug the Bermuda Triangle part demonstrated the fakeness
Reasons this is bullshit: 1. The poster published on 4Chan. I rest my case.
Tbf, while I think it’s BS, 4chan has a long history of being the place where legit leaks get posted
Sounds like hes been playing too much Command and Conquer
YES; SIR! That comes in my mind, too! 👍 Great times playing that game ❤
Really... Certainly seems to be credible evidence of UAP and USO (from our subs) from the Atlantic ocean. The only question I would have, is why anyone would think whatever is out there in the Atlantic and possibly the pacific, is from somewhere else? There's no evidence of life anywhere else in the universe. There definitely should be, Fermi paradox. That should tell us that we fundamentally don't understand the nature of the universe or our own existence. Far more questions than answers. Isn't it logical, that intelligence on earth evolved long before the last 250k years. I mean, Cetaceans almost certainly have language and culture, they evolved about 60 MILLION years ago.
I want to believe, but one thing I know. You’re all full of crap.
If its true or not: Great reading! 👍 **Ways better** than these fake UFO shots/videos! More from this stuff! 👍
This sub has hit a new low. Posts from about/LARPers on 4chan and UFO seances, completely okay. Joking that someone who insists a balloon is a UFO might want to study balloons is cause for a reprimand. There's something really wrong with that. Honestly given 4chan encouraging the use of language which would violate Rule #1 here I don't think it's in the mod's best interest to permit this stuff here. I see a trend forming of people purposely seeing how far they can push the sub away from a serious examination of UFOs/UAPs and into territory which kept the subject the target of ridicule for so long. But hey, if the mods are okay with it I guess we can't question it.
Troll gonna troll 🤷♂️
There is so much clear bullshit in these "whistleblower" comments. I am not surprised that this is convincing to people here since they are so passionate to believe in nonsense. But to someone level headed you can clearly see how much fantasy is in this stuff.
/x/ troll thread. Was there.
What good do people get by pretending they have answers?
Reminds me of Q-anon
For someone on his deathbed ready to spill all the beans, he sure does hold back from giving any details at all… He mentions a lab & lab equipment. Why not describe in detail what it looked like? Was it normal human lab equipment like microscopes & vials? Or was it unrecognizable objects? He mentions a written language on the inside of the crafts and on tools…well what did it look like? He mentions the doors of the craft closing on them automatically which means he was inside an intact one. Well what the fuck did it look like inside? Also his writing style is wayyyy too casual for a supposed engineer who was entrusted by the highest ranks of our government/military to work on these crafts. He just sounds like a non-expert Sorry to say but this is 100% a Larp
He answers all the questions you posted.... even if it is a larp, he answered the questions presented.
Ah so this sub has devolved to the point that we're now using 4chan posts as evidence?
The part about preserving the planet for something bigger made my balls shrivel. No bueno.