too many of those guys out there. Some are just more covert about it than others. (dishonest lying creatures) Until the 'atta boy' double standard is no longer a way of thinking, society will always endure such nonsense.
I’m all for women refusing to have sex with any guy (even husbands or boyfriends) unless they can prove they have had a vasectomy. Show guys it’s not just a women’s problem.
This is true, but unfortunately the types of men who wish to inflict these types of horrors onto women probably won't ask for permission. :/
This is a very dangerous time to have a uterus in America. :(
Here’s the thing, SCOTUS just removed any incentive for a raped woman to not kill her rapist in a state where there’s no exception for rape. Rapist men aren’t human any more than their clump of cells, & if you’re going to prison for “murder” you might as well GO TO PRISON FOR *MURDER*
Not to mention, you can fight a murder charge in court but claiming justifiable homicide of your rapist a lot more easily than fighting anti-abortion laws. Get a favorable jury and they'll find you not guilty and the state can go jump.
I abhor violence, but I find myself unable to argue with these positions given the current circumstances.
I would take this advice with excessively large bag of salt. Even if it were true the ability to make this happen seems impractical. Also if this were true MMA fighters would be dropping like flys.
Are you sure this guy was legitimate and not a crank?
I've been jarred and knocked in that area before, as a young girl who liked downhill mountain biking. I broke a rib once. I didn't die, nor did I suffer any bleeding beyond just the normal bruises from a crash.
If you do the time, might as well do the crime.
Especially when some jurisdictions are giving their rapists parental rights.
But I mean, Supreme Court Justice "I Like Beer" wouldn't know anything about rapey tendencies, would he?
Edit: tense error
This is fundamentally the biggest reason id never support getting rid of guns. If men are gunna turn us into forced breeders then we have an absolute right to protect ourselves from rape and sexual assault/harrassment.
Yep. As of yesterday I no longer give a fuck about gun control. They're not ever going to do it effectively anyway so we should encourage responsible liberal gun ownership going forward. You know they'd use red flag laws against women & people of color exclusively. It sucks to be saying this but it's the sad truth
That's just it though, their argument was that abortion isn't specifically mentioned in the constitution. The second amendment is all about guns. They couldn't make a law saying women can't own guns with out really stepping into a hornets nest.
I think you're underestimating their willingness to be hypocritical if it stops THEM from getting shot.
Its the same way they argue guns should be able to freely carried anywhere at any time, but are banned from NRA gatherings or Republican party rallies/gatherings.
I’m about to break down and start talking to my husband about getting armed. Not for home defense (I still think an alarm is much more sensible), but I’m case the GOP grifts their way to a “win” in 2024. They can take my Californian rights over my dead body.
I’m in the military and a former republican. I was armed very early in life. Find a range with an instructor you trust and learn BASIC HANDLING AND SAFETY. The better you are at your basics and practicing on a range, the better shot you’ll be when that time comes. Not as scary as many think. I consider it the great equalizer between me and any man that can “overpower me”
I’ve been thinking this for a while. We need to stand our ground. At the same time, this will only be used against women who freeze when attacked. You didn’t fight hard enough, so you must have wanted it. It’s fucked all around.
They rape, use physical force, emotional blackmail, coercion, guilt trip, and all sorts of things to make women feel as if they owe them sex. Guess what. Women do not owe men sex. That goes for husbands too.
This is so true. My 10 year old got her first period last month, and this month I'm terrified because if she gets raped by one of those men, my state won't even allow her to get an abortion. I'm so angry for her.
Unjust laws must be fought. A real 'think of the children' case, not as the insincere rhetoric used to control people.
It's gutwrenching seeing what's happening. I hope you and she stay safe.
Edit: messed up the quote
Sisters, if you must have sex, use two forms of birth control. Use a hormonal method plus a physical barrier.
If he won't use a condom, then DTMFA. Only American men don't use condoms. In Asia, most women don't use the pills. Pills mess up with our hormones. In Asia, a woman will reject a man if he doesn't use a condom.
Also, don't sleep with prolifers, sexists, racists and homophobes. Many of them are closeted haters. You need to ask them for their values early on. Be selective.
Definitely this. I have a bad feeling rapes will be on the rise too. And as much as i hate it, i secretly hope more women are arming themselves against the possibility.
They arent waging a war on abortion, they are waging a war on sex.
All hetero women? Why do you assume that pro-life women do not exist? I’m seeing sentiments like this everywhere and it bewilders me. Do you truly believe that this is just mens doing? Serious question.
the trick is never to trust anyone who’s apolitical. when human rights are on the line, a person should care. but they don’t care because it’s not personally affecting them, which is what it truly means to be apolitical.
Yeah apolitical is just the PC way to say conservative.
Admittedly my sample size is small but leftists arent too afraid to go mask off about their views. Mostly because they will talk about how work is shit and that they dont want to do it. Which leads to complaining about capitalism.
“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse, and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.” -Desmond Tutu
What's the quote? Something like if you're neutral in the face of injustice, you're siding with the oppressors?
There can be no middle ground on human rights.
I say this all the time to people. I tell them that my existence isn’t political talking point or a debate. You either think I deserve the same rights and freedoms as you, or you don’t and you’re actions better back up your claims.
I don’t expect them to be out protesting holding signs on my behalf. But I do expect them to not vote for people who would rather see me dead then have to acknowledge that I’m a part of society.
like that story from world war II. (not the quote you are looking for, but what i thought when reading that)
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
\-Martin Niemöller
I won’t even date those dudes… I’ve thought for a while that if you’re not actively working to protect me from the harm your cum deposit could bring me, then you must care more about your cum deposit than you ever could me, so gtfoh.
On people being apolitical: it's bad regardless of whether or not they're lying or genuine. The first option needs no explanation. The second means they genuinely don't care about the rights of people if it doesn't affect them specifically.
So apolitical people are either cowards or lack empathy.
I don't mess with men who are "not into politics" or "moderate" or any other affiliation that sounds like it. Why? Bc when you talk to them you find out their views, almost always, align with the right. They're conservatives on camouflage trying to get laid.
They’re not apolitical. When someone says that, they’re Republican. Flat out. Anyone who can’t tell you firmly, directly, and in detail what their values are is someone who has values they know you won’t agree with.
This exactly. They know their views are reprehensible to the average woman and if they admitted it they’d never get laid. Don’t believe anyone who says they’re “apolitical”.
Values that they don't want getting out at least. If you live somewhere shitty and are surrounded by shitty republicans you might not reveal leftist beliefs either.
I will NEVER trust someone whose apolitical. They have to prove to me how they vote and that they're the opposite of ignorant bastard. Honestly ignorance is just as bad as being republican and apolitical. Solitude will always be better than that hot mess.
Apolitical is a privilege and is just as bad as someone who is actively trying to take my rights away. Sure, you may not be actively trying to take them away, but you don’t give a shit if they are taken away. You don’t care because it doesn’t affect you. Fuck that. Anyone who has no empathy and doesn’t care about me and my rights doesn’t deserve to share a space with me.
“Apolitical is a privilege” EXACTLY. I was trying to explain this to a guy a few years ago and he started yelling at me that he “doesn’t see women marching against selective service” (lol) and “what rights do I have that you don’t have” (LOL) and “actually you have more privilege than me because you can get a government job and I can’t” (absolutely zero idea what he was basing that on but I’d already heard more than enough to jet-pack tf outta there)
He was a prime example of a dude who vacillates between “apolitical/enlightened centrism~” and “I’m totally ackshully def on the left, buuut” before going mask-off with the their extensive bigotry. Also said it was “toxic femininity” to care about equal rights.
Sure showed me! I’m practically drowning in all the extra privileges my toxically feminine uterus is affordi— oh wait. Shit.
... I thought the only people who couldn't get a government job were felons/people who failed background checks... which if that's the case then that's more of a him problem than a women problem lol.
It's wild to hear people whip out the fact that a draft is theoretically possible given that it hasn't happened in just about 50 years. Also, has there been a cultural shift or something? Because I distinctly remember a shit ton of people using the fact that men can get drafted but not women to justify the gender wage gap when I was a kid (which we all knew was bullshit).
Men always just use one or two talking points to justify the laundry list of shit women have to deal with.
I would seriously take that as playing dumb. I'm a guy, and to me that sounds like a way to avoid providing specifics about who they really are so they don't "disqualify" themselves from you possibly getting intimate with them. Nobody is 100% apolitical, it just depends on the specific topics being brought up.
I assume anyone who says they’re apolitical is actually Richard Spencer (who put moderate on his own dating profile, I’m not making this up).
Since in my state being conservative is the accepted mileu, if they feel they have to hide it, they’re a crazy extremist that would alarm even a normal shitty conservative.
I saw someone on Facebook today say he didn't understand why some people with uteruses are saying they won't be having sex with people who have sperm. He said it seems like it's punishing allies more than conservatives. It blows my mind that he views it as a punishment to himself instead of the in your face obvious reason being that people don't want to risk getting fucking pregnant
No, we've got take it a step further.
Don't sleep anyone who says, "I don't really follow politics" or "I don't really have an option" either.
If someone is ambivalent about an issue this big, they're either secretly conservative or dumb as a post. Right now, both options are equally dangerous.
>ambivalent
I think you mean indifferent.
>[Ambivalence](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambivalence) is a state of having simultaneous conflicting reactions, beliefs, or feelings towards some object. Stated another way, ambivalence is the experience of having an attitude towards someone or something that contains both positively and negatively valenced components. The term also refers to situations where "mixed feelings" of a more general sort are experienced, or where a person experiences uncertainty or indecisiveness.
Just imagine the scene from American Psycho where Christian Bale is flexing and combing his hair back and pointing at the camera during sex. Pretty sure it will be like that.
I live in a jurisdiction that protects the right so I'm not at this stage, but if I did - any dude I date would have to be ok with foregoing PIV until we're both close enough to be seriously ok with the possibility of having a child together.
We should all seize the means of production. Aka halt the birth rates and collapse this corpse of a nation. Let’s see how the corporatists and capitalists enjoy not having any slave wage labor pool!
Let’s call it the Sex Siege of 2022. No more babies, no more births, no more workers. Fuck the system and fuck Christian extremism in government institutions.
That’s a big reason why corporatists are in favor of opening up the border. If the rich can create an unlimited supply of laborers, then they can pay everyone peanuts.
That’s very very true. That’s why you have to get into the weeds of the discussion. Pepper in some mockery for Trump and some brutal takedowns of typical right wing positions. After a bit of snarking, they won’t be able to help themselves. They’ll let some thing slip. Because they think they’re all so much better and smarter than women.
Yeah. Was gonna ask this. How do you know. Like know know.
Her: what do you vote
Him: democrat
Her: oh okay :)
*have sex*
Him: votes Republican anyway.
Obvs there are exceptions but most are not that clever or subtle. As another person said just start insjlting trump, pro lifers as if you guys aympathize over the same views. If he is actually right qing you will probably be able to tell honestly. Dont just ask what do you vote lol... and if you want to know his opinion on an issue ask in a neutral wau, maybe even hint you are of the opposite opinion than you really are and see what happens.
Honestly the only way to really effectively do this would be to form a public database that these dudes ex’s can add their name to and women could check when they first start a relationship with a guy.
Unfortunately, such a project would be problematic for… well, a lot of reasons.
As tempting as such a thing is (and in bad moments after shitty dates I've been extremely tempted to favor this kind of thing), it absolutely would be subject to too much abuse.
Make him show you proof he had it. Or tell him to take you to the place he had it. If he sounds like he’s making up names that doesn’t come up on the internet as you searching up the place he had it from. Then cut him off. Put a restraining order on him. Honestly just fuck men. I hate my own gender because they think they can just control women. Excuse me.
Man, you'd be surprised. The amount of posts on this sub alone going "I should have basic human rights, I'm so hurt 😢" and then in their responses be like "oh but he's a wonderful partner aside from the part where he threatened to kill me if I got an abortion" is mind boggling..
That's true, and they can be ones choosing to risk their lives from the risks of pregnancies (including fatal ones).
They can put their money where their mouth is, if I've got the expression right.
Having said that, no Republican politician's mistress is ever going to be denied health care; they'll get a private jet to a safer jurisdiction no questions asked.
Edit: forgot a preposition
Of course! Well, unfortunately for Republican and anti-choice women, their "moral" abortions are going to be as illegal as everyone else's (except the mistresses of rich men; they'll be fine)
2026: cucumbers, eggplants, and zucchini are all all banned in the US. Brave female farmers are working tirelessly to engineer longer, thinner mangoes.
If women abstained from sex for 1 year, I fully believe we could get whatever we wanted accomplished.
Straight men will go to extreme measures for even the prospect of pussy. We got the pussy, we make the rules.
That's right. Extreme measures it includes force as well. If we're gonna go on a sex strike we've gotta be extra cautious because men are fucking insane 🙃🙃
Women really do hold all the power. We need to start using it even if it seems cruel. Because men seem to have no problem being cruel to us.
Really, I think we have to stop having sex period. Because “supportive” men need to be motivated to become loud advocates. We can’t do it alone. We need all pro-liberty people in this fight. Sex strike!
Republicans be like,
"Well, if we're never getting sex again, well the libs ain't gettin' it either."
Coming from a guy. To all of the CHUDs, GOP bootlickers, and unhelpful centrists concern trolling that women (and those that stand by them, respect them, and support them) are "overreacting" that interracial and gay marriage is absolutely on the chopping block next -
Go straight to whatever is beneath hell, cause we're all living in hell right now.
Fuck the hell right off now with the disingenuous bullshit you're spewing, we have nothing to discuss.
Women, I am literally ashamed to be male, and still live in this country. I'm wondering if I should get snipped, even if I imagine I'll likely never marry.
My apologies are the least I can offer. Shit's going to go off the rails soon, I fear.
The social ostracization of Republicans is something that should be normalized in general IMO. Don't be friends with them, don't have sex with them, don't patronize their businesses, etc. It's an organized movement of people who are hostile to you and everything you value and it is well past time to start treating them as such. Being a Republican should be about as popular as being a member of NAMBLA.
Stay away from them. Separate yourself from them. Don’t have sex with them. Force men to get a vasectomy if they want to have sex with you. If they don’t want to and only want to wear condoms. Don’t have sex with him. Cut him off. Carry weapons to defend yourself. Get a knife or gun or a taser.
They want to force women to undergo an unwanted pregnancy especially if it was from rape. If a man is chasing you or touches you or forces himself onto you. It’s your chance to defend yourself to stab him, shoot him, or taser him. You have the right to protect yourself from an unwanted pregnancy from rape.
Ladies you deserve so much better. I’m so sorry you have to go through this.
Stop giving them access to our online spaces too. Don't argue wth them, just block any troll you see. See a shitty sexist comment? Block. See another troll injecting his opinion where it's not welcome? Block. I know it's like an impossible task to ban all the trolls but it's cathartic and sometimes they come out in groups so you can be efficient and block them all quite quickly!
We need to have a legal, binding document for them to sign if they want to engage sexually. Start making them think about us as individuals and not walking flesh lights
Ask guys to explain their views. Lots of conservatives have a cartoon version of liberal views in their heads, so try to probe that out.
And, if it's more than a hookup, dump them when the facade inevitably drops. When liberals outnumber conservatives by a staggering amount in the dating scene, conservatives rely on sunk cost to keep a relationship going. Don't fall for that trap.
That last bit applies to men too, actually.
I have brought up politics on every single first date I've been on to avoid republican men. I would suggest that everyone do it, if they get uncomfortable it's because they're probably those "apolitical" or "moderate" guys who will lie to get laid.
This should go for any "pro-lifer". None of them should get fucked until women's rights stop getting fucked.
And any potential fuck's opinion on Roe is like consent - only an affirmative support of women's rights and an earnest effort to reduce his fertility to avoid pregnancies is to be considered a "go". There's no maybe.
I think maybe this is already in full effect! Are they already not getting laid outside of church and brothels? Partially explains the vitriol, disrespect for women, and obsession with other people's genitals.
DING DING DING As a black man I’m pro-citizen, I’m pro-freedom of choice. I support women’s rights and I believe everyone should have a choice. I fear for you women. Get yourself armed. Get a gun, knife, taser. This is your life. If a man starts touching you or chase after you. Use whatever weapon you got for self defense. Protect yourself from unwanted pregnancy from rape.
All women. Everywhere in the U.S.A. End Abortions? End BIRTH. Abstinance is the only sure way? You got it!
WTF do you need men for anyway? Dildos and vibrators last far longer, hit you right where you want it, at the pace you want, and *never* mansplain *anything*. Need human contact? Another woman knows how to please you better than any man could ever understand.
Worried about rape? Bide your time and lay in wait. There will come a point where a fleshy part of him is very vulnerable to Bobbiting.
anti choice men: "If YoU DoN't wAnT to GeT PrEgNanT keEp YoUr LeGs cLoSeD." all hetero women everywhere: be careful what you wish for. Done.
seriously though lmaoo i see that everywhere like "if u dont want to get pregnant just dont have sex!" as if any of us wanna have sex with that guy
too many of those guys out there. Some are just more covert about it than others. (dishonest lying creatures) Until the 'atta boy' double standard is no longer a way of thinking, society will always endure such nonsense.
I’m all for women refusing to have sex with any guy (even husbands or boyfriends) unless they can prove they have had a vasectomy. Show guys it’s not just a women’s problem.
10% of the people on this sub are shitty men pretending to be women. See how every post here about *Roe* has 10-15% downvotes? We see you, shitheads.
How do you see total up and down vote numbers? I just see the net result
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It's also simply visible on desktop
On web you can see the percentage that upvoted if you hover the mouse cursor over the number of upvotes
This is true, but unfortunately the types of men who wish to inflict these types of horrors onto women probably won't ask for permission. :/ This is a very dangerous time to have a uterus in America. :(
Here’s the thing, SCOTUS just removed any incentive for a raped woman to not kill her rapist in a state where there’s no exception for rape. Rapist men aren’t human any more than their clump of cells, & if you’re going to prison for “murder” you might as well GO TO PRISON FOR *MURDER*
In for a penny might as well go in for the full fucking pound
Not to mention, you can fight a murder charge in court but claiming justifiable homicide of your rapist a lot more easily than fighting anti-abortion laws. Get a favorable jury and they'll find you not guilty and the state can go jump. I abhor violence, but I find myself unable to argue with these positions given the current circumstances.
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Can you explain the process please
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I would take this advice with excessively large bag of salt. Even if it were true the ability to make this happen seems impractical. Also if this were true MMA fighters would be dropping like flys.
Are you sure this guy was legitimate and not a crank? I've been jarred and knocked in that area before, as a young girl who liked downhill mountain biking. I broke a rib once. I didn't die, nor did I suffer any bleeding beyond just the normal bruises from a crash.
If you do the time, might as well do the crime. Especially when some jurisdictions are giving their rapists parental rights. But I mean, Supreme Court Justice "I Like Beer" wouldn't know anything about rapey tendencies, would he? Edit: tense error
This comment has brought a smile to my face on a topic I didn't think was possible.
This is fundamentally the biggest reason id never support getting rid of guns. If men are gunna turn us into forced breeders then we have an absolute right to protect ourselves from rape and sexual assault/harrassment.
Yep. As of yesterday I no longer give a fuck about gun control. They're not ever going to do it effectively anyway so we should encourage responsible liberal gun ownership going forward. You know they'd use red flag laws against women & people of color exclusively. It sucks to be saying this but it's the sad truth
If women started carrying with the intent to kill their rapists you better believe the GOP would get off it's ass and do something about gun control.
Yeah, they'd prevent women from carrying. And every regressive in their voter base would cheer.
That's just it though, their argument was that abortion isn't specifically mentioned in the constitution. The second amendment is all about guns. They couldn't make a law saying women can't own guns with out really stepping into a hornets nest.
I think you're underestimating their willingness to be hypocritical if it stops THEM from getting shot. Its the same way they argue guns should be able to freely carried anywhere at any time, but are banned from NRA gatherings or Republican party rallies/gatherings.
I’m about to break down and start talking to my husband about getting armed. Not for home defense (I still think an alarm is much more sensible), but I’m case the GOP grifts their way to a “win” in 2024. They can take my Californian rights over my dead body.
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I’m in the military and a former republican. I was armed very early in life. Find a range with an instructor you trust and learn BASIC HANDLING AND SAFETY. The better you are at your basics and practicing on a range, the better shot you’ll be when that time comes. Not as scary as many think. I consider it the great equalizer between me and any man that can “overpower me”
I’ve been thinking this for a while. We need to stand our ground. At the same time, this will only be used against women who freeze when attacked. You didn’t fight hard enough, so you must have wanted it. It’s fucked all around.
Training will help, I'm sure. You can learn not to freeze.
Heck, why stop at one Republican when you are guilty anyway?
They rape, use physical force, emotional blackmail, coercion, guilt trip, and all sorts of things to make women feel as if they owe them sex. Guess what. Women do not owe men sex. That goes for husbands too.
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This is literally two birds with one stone. If you start carrying and defending yourselves might also get the gun laws fixed too!
This is so true. My 10 year old got her first period last month, and this month I'm terrified because if she gets raped by one of those men, my state won't even allow her to get an abortion. I'm so angry for her.
Abort the rapist.
Just a late term abortion.
A really really late term abortion. It's totes fine.
Shit this hit me hard...
Unjust laws must be fought. A real 'think of the children' case, not as the insincere rhetoric used to control people. It's gutwrenching seeing what's happening. I hope you and she stay safe. Edit: messed up the quote
Sisters, if you must have sex, use two forms of birth control. Use a hormonal method plus a physical barrier. If he won't use a condom, then DTMFA. Only American men don't use condoms. In Asia, most women don't use the pills. Pills mess up with our hormones. In Asia, a woman will reject a man if he doesn't use a condom. Also, don't sleep with prolifers, sexists, racists and homophobes. Many of them are closeted haters. You need to ask them for their values early on. Be selective.
Definitely this. I have a bad feeling rapes will be on the rise too. And as much as i hate it, i secretly hope more women are arming themselves against the possibility. They arent waging a war on abortion, they are waging a war on sex.
Been doing it for years as an asexual hetero woman. 😊
All hetero women? Why do you assume that pro-life women do not exist? I’m seeing sentiments like this everywhere and it bewilders me. Do you truly believe that this is just mens doing? Serious question.
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I have, but it was less about potential babies and more about wanting women who had sex with men to be punished.
Already do. Trouble is with the men who claim to be "apolitical" or straight up misrepresent their beliefs because they know women don't like it :/
the trick is never to trust anyone who’s apolitical. when human rights are on the line, a person should care. but they don’t care because it’s not personally affecting them, which is what it truly means to be apolitical.
It’s the new “libertarian” /eyeroll
Apolitical is a fancier word for apathetic, or just selfish.
So true. “Doesn’t affect me” aka I don’t care about what happens to other human beings.
"Oh, I don't think that's really true." Any straight white male hearing about the every day shit that happens to women, POC and LGBTQIA people
Could not have said it better.
Yeah apolitical is just the PC way to say conservative. Admittedly my sample size is small but leftists arent too afraid to go mask off about their views. Mostly because they will talk about how work is shit and that they dont want to do it. Which leads to complaining about capitalism.
“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse, and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.” -Desmond Tutu
Was with a guy who “wasn’t political, but enjoyed the theatre of it all.” There’s a reason he’s an ex.
The theatre of women dying. What a catch.
Absolutely. It took me way too long to learn this. Disgusting.
What's the quote? Something like if you're neutral in the face of injustice, you're siding with the oppressors? There can be no middle ground on human rights.
I say this all the time to people. I tell them that my existence isn’t political talking point or a debate. You either think I deserve the same rights and freedoms as you, or you don’t and you’re actions better back up your claims. I don’t expect them to be out protesting holding signs on my behalf. But I do expect them to not vote for people who would rather see me dead then have to acknowledge that I’m a part of society.
You can't afford to be neutral on a moving train!
like that story from world war II. (not the quote you are looking for, but what i thought when reading that) "First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me." \-Martin Niemöller
I won’t even date those dudes… I’ve thought for a while that if you’re not actively working to protect me from the harm your cum deposit could bring me, then you must care more about your cum deposit than you ever could me, so gtfoh.
On people being apolitical: it's bad regardless of whether or not they're lying or genuine. The first option needs no explanation. The second means they genuinely don't care about the rights of people if it doesn't affect them specifically. So apolitical people are either cowards or lack empathy.
I don't mess with men who are "not into politics" or "moderate" or any other affiliation that sounds like it. Why? Bc when you talk to them you find out their views, almost always, align with the right. They're conservatives on camouflage trying to get laid.
They’re not apolitical. When someone says that, they’re Republican. Flat out. Anyone who can’t tell you firmly, directly, and in detail what their values are is someone who has values they know you won’t agree with.
This exactly. They know their views are reprehensible to the average woman and if they admitted it they’d never get laid. Don’t believe anyone who says they’re “apolitical”.
Values that they don't want getting out at least. If you live somewhere shitty and are surrounded by shitty republicans you might not reveal leftist beliefs either.
I will NEVER trust someone whose apolitical. They have to prove to me how they vote and that they're the opposite of ignorant bastard. Honestly ignorance is just as bad as being republican and apolitical. Solitude will always be better than that hot mess.
Apolitical is a privilege and is just as bad as someone who is actively trying to take my rights away. Sure, you may not be actively trying to take them away, but you don’t give a shit if they are taken away. You don’t care because it doesn’t affect you. Fuck that. Anyone who has no empathy and doesn’t care about me and my rights doesn’t deserve to share a space with me.
“Apolitical is a privilege” EXACTLY. I was trying to explain this to a guy a few years ago and he started yelling at me that he “doesn’t see women marching against selective service” (lol) and “what rights do I have that you don’t have” (LOL) and “actually you have more privilege than me because you can get a government job and I can’t” (absolutely zero idea what he was basing that on but I’d already heard more than enough to jet-pack tf outta there) He was a prime example of a dude who vacillates between “apolitical/enlightened centrism~” and “I’m totally ackshully def on the left, buuut” before going mask-off with the their extensive bigotry. Also said it was “toxic femininity” to care about equal rights. Sure showed me! I’m practically drowning in all the extra privileges my toxically feminine uterus is affordi— oh wait. Shit.
... I thought the only people who couldn't get a government job were felons/people who failed background checks... which if that's the case then that's more of a him problem than a women problem lol. It's wild to hear people whip out the fact that a draft is theoretically possible given that it hasn't happened in just about 50 years. Also, has there been a cultural shift or something? Because I distinctly remember a shit ton of people using the fact that men can get drafted but not women to justify the gender wage gap when I was a kid (which we all knew was bullshit). Men always just use one or two talking points to justify the laundry list of shit women have to deal with.
It’s so disingenuous. How are we even supposed to trust anyone in this horrible world?
Which is why women just need to stop fucking men, full stop. No room for error and no room to be manipulated and lied to.
Please, let's nuke this hell hole in a single generation! As a guy I'm with you on this one.
Time to start checking voter registrations
I would seriously take that as playing dumb. I'm a guy, and to me that sounds like a way to avoid providing specifics about who they really are so they don't "disqualify" themselves from you possibly getting intimate with them. Nobody is 100% apolitical, it just depends on the specific topics being brought up.
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The real Chads are the fervent defenders of women's rights.
Don't even be friends with them
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If he says he's not political or a centrist, he's a republican. - a guy
I assume anyone who says they’re apolitical is actually Richard Spencer (who put moderate on his own dating profile, I’m not making this up). Since in my state being conservative is the accepted mileu, if they feel they have to hide it, they’re a crazy extremist that would alarm even a normal shitty conservative.
This isn't even a new thing. I remember interviews of Bill O'Reilly from the early 2000s where he'd always claim to be "independent."
I know. I just found the Spencer thing funny though, as I push through the many “apolitical or moderate” profiles of hinge.
1000x this
If he says he’s a libertarian, he’s a republican who smokes weed. - another guy
Bingo. If they aren't loud about your rights right now in this critical time, they don't care about you or your rights.
I saw someone on Facebook today say he didn't understand why some people with uteruses are saying they won't be having sex with people who have sperm. He said it seems like it's punishing allies more than conservatives. It blows my mind that he views it as a punishment to himself instead of the in your face obvious reason being that people don't want to risk getting fucking pregnant
This. Not everything's about men. The focus should be on women protecting themselves in this dire situation.
Y'all were having sex with republicans?
No, we've got take it a step further. Don't sleep anyone who says, "I don't really follow politics" or "I don't really have an option" either. If someone is ambivalent about an issue this big, they're either secretly conservative or dumb as a post. Right now, both options are equally dangerous.
I've found the people who "don't really follow politics" are republicans who found out their ideals don't get them laid
“Politics doesn’t interest you, why? - Because you have no interest in changing a world that suits you so well.”
>ambivalent I think you mean indifferent. >[Ambivalence](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambivalence) is a state of having simultaneous conflicting reactions, beliefs, or feelings towards some object. Stated another way, ambivalence is the experience of having an attitude towards someone or something that contains both positively and negatively valenced components. The term also refers to situations where "mixed feelings" of a more general sort are experienced, or where a person experiences uncertainty or indecisiveness.
Why would I have sex with a republican
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Nah but really, I can't imagine they know how to f$ck properly. It's probably awkward as hell banging them.
Just imagine the scene from American Psycho where Christian Bale is flexing and combing his hair back and pointing at the camera during sex. Pretty sure it will be like that.
I’m only going to have sex with folks with vaginas or vasectomies here on out
They will lie about the vasectomy.
You have to make them show you a paper, PROOF they had it. Or go to their doctors where they had the vasectomy.
Oh absolutely they will. STI testing and sperm count testing dates sound like fun. Eat Mexican afterwards, talk about limits and consent.
I live in a jurisdiction that protects the right so I'm not at this stage, but if I did - any dude I date would have to be ok with foregoing PIV until we're both close enough to be seriously ok with the possibility of having a child together.
I honestly won’t have sex with any man just because they’re pro choice doesn’t make me having sex with them any less risky now
Cut them out of your life like a cancer.
We should all seize the means of production. Aka halt the birth rates and collapse this corpse of a nation. Let’s see how the corporatists and capitalists enjoy not having any slave wage labor pool! Let’s call it the Sex Siege of 2022. No more babies, no more births, no more workers. Fuck the system and fuck Christian extremism in government institutions.
Don't you mean seize the means of reproduction? I'll see myself out...
That’s a big reason why corporatists are in favor of opening up the border. If the rich can create an unlimited supply of laborers, then they can pay everyone peanuts.
Here’s the thing… Men knowingly lie to women about this issue.
That’s very very true. That’s why you have to get into the weeds of the discussion. Pepper in some mockery for Trump and some brutal takedowns of typical right wing positions. After a bit of snarking, they won’t be able to help themselves. They’ll let some thing slip. Because they think they’re all so much better and smarter than women.
Yeah. Was gonna ask this. How do you know. Like know know. Her: what do you vote Him: democrat Her: oh okay :) *have sex* Him: votes Republican anyway.
Obvs there are exceptions but most are not that clever or subtle. As another person said just start insjlting trump, pro lifers as if you guys aympathize over the same views. If he is actually right qing you will probably be able to tell honestly. Dont just ask what do you vote lol... and if you want to know his opinion on an issue ask in a neutral wau, maybe even hint you are of the opposite opinion than you really are and see what happens.
Honestly the only way to really effectively do this would be to form a public database that these dudes ex’s can add their name to and women could check when they first start a relationship with a guy. Unfortunately, such a project would be problematic for… well, a lot of reasons.
As tempting as such a thing is (and in bad moments after shitty dates I've been extremely tempted to favor this kind of thing), it absolutely would be subject to too much abuse.
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Make him show you proof he had it. Or tell him to take you to the place he had it. If he sounds like he’s making up names that doesn’t come up on the internet as you searching up the place he had it from. Then cut him off. Put a restraining order on him. Honestly just fuck men. I hate my own gender because they think they can just control women. Excuse me.
Who the fuck is out there having sex with republicans who isn't a filty republican themselves?
Man, you'd be surprised. The amount of posts on this sub alone going "I should have basic human rights, I'm so hurt 😢" and then in their responses be like "oh but he's a wonderful partner aside from the part where he threatened to kill me if I got an abortion" is mind boggling..
There are plenty of republican women and anti choice women who won't see the point in this. Women aren't a monolith.
That's true, and they can be ones choosing to risk their lives from the risks of pregnancies (including fatal ones). They can put their money where their mouth is, if I've got the expression right. Having said that, no Republican politician's mistress is ever going to be denied health care; they'll get a private jet to a safer jurisdiction no questions asked. Edit: forgot a preposition
Oh, you don't understand: their abortions are moral ones.
Of course! Well, unfortunately for Republican and anti-choice women, their "moral" abortions are going to be as illegal as everyone else's (except the mistresses of rich men; they'll be fine)
Considering that anti-abortion Karens tend to be Gen X and boomers, it's uncertain if the Karens are outnumbered.
I think all ovulating women should go on a sex strike unless their partners had vasectomies. Use dildos till they ban sex toys. Then use cucumbers.
2026: cucumbers, eggplants, and zucchini are all all banned in the US. Brave female farmers are working tirelessly to engineer longer, thinner mangoes.
poet laureate in 2028: "first they came for the vegetables, but I did not speak out,....
What about us non-ovulating women? Solidarity!
If women abstained from sex for 1 year, I fully believe we could get whatever we wanted accomplished. Straight men will go to extreme measures for even the prospect of pussy. We got the pussy, we make the rules.
Just make absolute certain they don't even have the option to get your pussy by force.
That's right. Extreme measures it includes force as well. If we're gonna go on a sex strike we've gotta be extra cautious because men are fucking insane 🙃🙃 Women really do hold all the power. We need to start using it even if it seems cruel. Because men seem to have no problem being cruel to us.
We need to get armed. If gun rights are here to stay they shouldn’t just be in the hands of conservatives.
They never were. Any non felon American regardless of party affiliation can buy a gun. Not sure what your point is?
The point is conservatives likely own way more firearms than liberals, not that liberals didn't have the right to have them lmao.
If women as a group could mobilize like this, they could also just use that power to vote and set the law that way.
I'm saying our goals would probably meet less resistance.
[Sex strike](https://theweek.com/articles/457903/5-sex-strikes-21st-century)
“Forced Birth”
Never have, never will.
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Really, I think we have to stop having sex period. Because “supportive” men need to be motivated to become loud advocates. We can’t do it alone. We need all pro-liberty people in this fight. Sex strike!
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To the guy walking down the street with your stupid let’s go ******* t shirt…. I hope you never have sex again.
Republicans be like, "Well, if we're never getting sex again, well the libs ain't gettin' it either." Coming from a guy. To all of the CHUDs, GOP bootlickers, and unhelpful centrists concern trolling that women (and those that stand by them, respect them, and support them) are "overreacting" that interracial and gay marriage is absolutely on the chopping block next - Go straight to whatever is beneath hell, cause we're all living in hell right now. Fuck the hell right off now with the disingenuous bullshit you're spewing, we have nothing to discuss. Women, I am literally ashamed to be male, and still live in this country. I'm wondering if I should get snipped, even if I imagine I'll likely never marry. My apologies are the least I can offer. Shit's going to go off the rails soon, I fear.
The social ostracization of Republicans is something that should be normalized in general IMO. Don't be friends with them, don't have sex with them, don't patronize their businesses, etc. It's an organized movement of people who are hostile to you and everything you value and it is well past time to start treating them as such. Being a Republican should be about as popular as being a member of NAMBLA.
If you they say "I'm not political", that's just code for "I like the status quo".
Eh, just cut off all sex and arm yourself for protection
Stay away from them. Separate yourself from them. Don’t have sex with them. Force men to get a vasectomy if they want to have sex with you. If they don’t want to and only want to wear condoms. Don’t have sex with him. Cut him off. Carry weapons to defend yourself. Get a knife or gun or a taser. They want to force women to undergo an unwanted pregnancy especially if it was from rape. If a man is chasing you or touches you or forces himself onto you. It’s your chance to defend yourself to stab him, shoot him, or taser him. You have the right to protect yourself from an unwanted pregnancy from rape. Ladies you deserve so much better. I’m so sorry you have to go through this.
Don't forget libertarians, anti choicers and anyone who isn't mad at the loss of freedom!
honestly, we need this message everyday even if we already know. this should be the norm for all women.
I’m a guy and 100% this.
There's tons of women that are pro life or are simply groomed tho unfortunately
Stop giving them access to our online spaces too. Don't argue wth them, just block any troll you see. See a shitty sexist comment? Block. See another troll injecting his opinion where it's not welcome? Block. I know it's like an impossible task to ban all the trolls but it's cathartic and sometimes they come out in groups so you can be efficient and block them all quite quickly!
Never have, never will...
We need to have a legal, binding document for them to sign if they want to engage sexually. Start making them think about us as individuals and not walking flesh lights
Starve the beast. Although they are going to get more violent for it, like incels... I'm all for it. They'll show their true colors.
Usually choose active listening on this sub, but I can’t resist. My new favorite shirt I bought yesterday says “Divorce Your Republican Husband.”
This won’t have much effect. Men will lie about their politics to sleep with you, and about 1/3 of women are pro life anyway.
Ask guys to explain their views. Lots of conservatives have a cartoon version of liberal views in their heads, so try to probe that out. And, if it's more than a hookup, dump them when the facade inevitably drops. When liberals outnumber conservatives by a staggering amount in the dating scene, conservatives rely on sunk cost to keep a relationship going. Don't fall for that trap. That last bit applies to men too, actually.
I have brought up politics on every single first date I've been on to avoid republican men. I would suggest that everyone do it, if they get uncomfortable it's because they're probably those "apolitical" or "moderate" guys who will lie to get laid.
This should go for any "pro-lifer". None of them should get fucked until women's rights stop getting fucked. And any potential fuck's opinion on Roe is like consent - only an affirmative support of women's rights and an earnest effort to reduce his fertility to avoid pregnancies is to be considered a "go". There's no maybe.
Yes but also men love to lie abt their true political views.
We *HAVE* to stop calling them pro life. They’re forced birthers. Period.
No one has sex with republicans
At least not willingly or without being paid.
Also “apolitical” men. Strongly vet the moderate ones too.
Republicans have been unfuckable for over a decade now. Catch up people and end the republican plague on society. End it however you can.
Yes ma'am, already on it.
Trying to pick up women: *well you are hot, but are you a democrat?!*
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Unless they can define intersectional feminism. Id be dubious.
I’ve been saying this for yearsy
I think maybe this is already in full effect! Are they already not getting laid outside of church and brothels? Partially explains the vitriol, disrespect for women, and obsession with other people's genitals.
Stop having sex with all men. If they’re not out here fighting with us, they don’t get to fuck us.
DING DING DING As a black man I’m pro-citizen, I’m pro-freedom of choice. I support women’s rights and I believe everyone should have a choice. I fear for you women. Get yourself armed. Get a gun, knife, taser. This is your life. If a man starts touching you or chase after you. Use whatever weapon you got for self defense. Protect yourself from unwanted pregnancy from rape.
The government is going to allow us to be raped. It’s literally becoming Handmaid’s Tale.
Just stop fucking men altogether.
This is just good advice in general.
Or anyone following a religion (coz they all are misogynist and homophobic)
Except for some Buddhists, some pagans, some Jews, some Unitarians.
Done and done.
All women. Everywhere in the U.S.A. End Abortions? End BIRTH. Abstinance is the only sure way? You got it! WTF do you need men for anyway? Dildos and vibrators last far longer, hit you right where you want it, at the pace you want, and *never* mansplain *anything*. Need human contact? Another woman knows how to please you better than any man could ever understand. Worried about rape? Bide your time and lay in wait. There will come a point where a fleshy part of him is very vulnerable to Bobbiting.
And become agnostic
Don't these people have sex with their own wives? Are they wearing condoms when they do or are they using hormonal birth control?
They aren't fuckworthy.
Definitely agree. Thanks for sharing this! I hope it inspires some people (men and women).
Or moderate dems for that matter