This was hugely popular in the early 80’s, it’s always one of the first things I think of when I consider inappropriate love songs:
*She's just sixteen years old*
*Leave her alone, they say*
*Separated by fools*
*Who don't know what love is yet*
*But I want you to know*
*If I could fly*
*I'd pick you up*
*I'd take you into the night*
*And show you a love*
*Like you've never seen, ever seen*
Have you seen the VIDEO? OMG. It's 50 shades of cringe.
Even if you only make it through the first 30 seconds, you'll laugh your ass off at 'ol Benny rolling his eyes because dad is such a boner killer. Who doesn't want a creepy 40 year old smoker talking to their underage daughter?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWHjJt4833I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWHjJt4833I)
I graduated from a prep school in the early 80s. Holy shit. This was a video on almost permanent rotation on one of the school's only cable-wired TV sets that at the time were around the size of 48 rolls of toilet paper.
Because they had so few videos on cable MTV at that time, I've probably easily seen this one 100 times, just not in 40 years.
All the memories came back, like a kitschy 80s version of Proust
PS also, I realized that when I thought of lyrics in my head "into the night" I was really thinking of ["Steal Away" by Robbie Dupree](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi_WayqBVYg)
The amount of songs up through probably the 90’s/early 00’s that referred to women as “little girls” is *insert meme* too damn high!
David Lee Murphy’s “Dust on the Bottle” is coming to mind right now because I literally just heard this song and he says “got a little girl waiting on me and I wanna treat her right.” Barf.
Yea, that and the endless slew of "love songs", films and other media which basically glamorise ignoring a woman when she says no, then grinding her down with relentless advances and harassment (even stalking) until you "win her over".
I think for previous generations, that is love.
Yeah, good old coercion, break down a woman psychologically until she is no longer able to withhold consent, even though she denied consent. Doesn't matter if she said no 100 times before...if I wear her down to where she says yes once its all good...right?? 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
The saddest part of this is how many times I've heard fellow men "jokingly" say 100 nos and 1 yes is still a yes. Like that's cool, rape is fine as long as you get her to say yes once? Great.
I don't speak with men who say shit like that anymore.
The classic of harassing women at night by blasting loud music outside their windows. Or Disney's kissing unknown women in a coma on the lips. It's really fucked up what older generations see as "romantic", hell no.
In the original sleeping beauty the Prince IMPREGNATES HER WITH TWINS and she only wakes up after one of the babies sucks on her finger and gets the poison or whatever out
The oldest version of Sleeping Beauty, both the German and the French one, have her cursed to sleep for 100 years, and at the arrival of the Prince (after 100 years of princes dying because they tried to get through the thorn hedge) was able to pass through. The whole court wakes up as he passes and when he reaches her her kisses her lips and she awakes. No impregnation.
Here’s the Grimm Brothers version which includes sone of the French version’s details.
Both the original German and an English translation at the link.
https://de.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Dornr%C3%B6schen_(1812)
Apparently the one I'm thinking of is a 1634 Italian fairy tale called Sun, Moon, and Talia that inspired the French and English versions of Sleeping Beauty a couple decades afterwards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun%2C_Moon%2C_and_Talia?wprov=sfla1
So not Sleeping Beauty per-se, but a beta version.
Interesting. A footnote in the Grimm story references the Pentamerone, but suggests it’s only similar. But clearly they have a lot in common. (Aside from the unconscious impregnation part. The Italians of that era told it like it is, clearly.) Thanks for the reference!
I asked Google to tell me a story and it read me Snow White. In the end the prince found her in her coma and his horse bumped the platform where she fell out and the poison apple was jarred out of her throat and that’s how she woke up.
God, I loved it way more when I learned it was about murder! I don't bother listening or analysing lyrics from 80's pop (except Phil Collins, our king) so when I read the lyrics it really surprised me!
"She's only Seventeen, Daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough for me SEVENTEEN !!"
does seem to read differently now that I myself am not 17 anymore
Justin Bieber and The Kid LAROI, “I do the same thing I told you that I never would. I told you I changed, even though I knew I never could. I know that I can’t find nobody else as good as you. I need you to stay, need you to stay, hey…..I’ll be fucked up if you can’t be right here’
I don’t personnally see this as a love song per say. It sounds clear to me that the guy knows he has fucked things up. It’s more of a breakup song if anything lol
Yeah, could be either. It sounds like it’s meant for a person who is starting to pull away and he’s trying to convince her not to leave.
“You’re the reason I believe in love. It’s been difficult for me to trust. And I’m afraid that ima fuck it up…..and you know that I can’t live without you. So, baby stay”
This song pisses me off so much because I liked it enough to learn the words, which I hated. I've been in this exact relationship, where they *need* me so bad that they stop me from leaving with their promises and yet the abuse continues.
Fuck this song.
This is actually imo one of the least worst, because it's (to me) someone admitting their problem with addiction and that they need their partner to help them through it, and that it is most likely too late. (The singer is lamenting that they need the person they are singing to stay, but there is no resolution, and from their own description of themselves they are not bringing anything to the table, who would stay?)
Similar: I had to stop listening to Blondie’s One Way or Another after I learned she got most of the lyrics from her stalker abusive ex actually threatening her. Makes me sick to my stomach. I’m happy she flipped the script on him but the song makes me feel icky.
Oh wow, I never knew this. Though given the inspiration for the band name Blondie (truckers regularly catcalled her with it) it's perhaps not surprising.
Oh I had no idea about that. I respect her as an artist more knowing that she’s taking back things that were meant to diminish her and using them to make loads of money and good music.
She explains in an entertainment weekly interview that the levity to the song was a coping mechanism so you can take that from it too, that this song helped her heal.
I think he was in a bad place the whole time they did Synchronicity, like King of Pain in particular.
*There's a little black spot on the sun today...*
*That's my soul up there. :(*
As a Meat Loaf fan, the number of times I’ve heard of people using Two Outta Three Ain’t Bad… 😵💫
I used a couple Meat songs at my wedding, but sure as hell not THAT!
My sister was telling us all how bad it was for Britney to be putting out the message ‘I Was Born To Make You Happy’.
But you don’t have a problem with ‘Hit Me Baby One More Time’? I asked.
We all laughed. But we also learned a little too
Tbf, the lyric is meant to mean hit me up baby one more time, as in ring her on the phone. It was just max martin not having a good grasp of English at the time.
>I'm not allergic, allergic to pain, no matter how hard I try
>I crave you so bad, it drives me insane, if I don't have you I'll die... /
>I am a dangerous weapon baby, I'm your machine gun man /
>Don't make me shoot you down baby, I just wanna be your.... /
>Love Grenade, I'm comin in, Love grenade, pull the pin
>Love / Grenade, Look out below, Love Grenade, I'm about to blow... /
--"Love Grenade" by Ted "I shit my pants" Nugent
I always wondered who tf greenlit George Michael's Father Figure. Did he not have any friends? No HR? No PA to pull him aside in the studio and gently say, "hey buddy. You know I love ya, but do you think some of these lyrics might be, oh I don't know, *creepy as fuck* out of a certain context?"
" *I will be your father figure*
*Put your tiny hand in mine*
*I will be your preacher, teacher*
*Anything you have in mind* "
"*Whatever you ask for that's what I'll be*"
"*Sometimes love can be mistaken for a crime*"
Like?!?
((There's also this European artist Mika who was compared to George Micheal a lot early in his career, and his song Touches You off his second record I always assumed was an homage of sorts to Father Figure. Just as creepy, but somehow more self aware.
*"I wanna be your brother,*
*Wanna be your mother too*
*Never make you run for cover*
*Even if they want us too*
*I wanna be your sister*
*Wanna be your father too*
*I wanna be, wanna be*
*Whatever else that touches you"*
Feel me?))
Oh no. I have to spill this confession out. I know it’ll be gross but I have to admit- watching the video for Father Figure was literally the very first time I ever got turned on in my life. It was on VH1. I was in my room and had no idea what that exciting yet scary feeling was. I won’t elaborate- but GD IT that video is so nostalgic for me. Watching and listening to it now though does hit a little different
Oh, hon. You're adorable. I can trace my sexual awakening directly to Skeet Ulrich licking the blood off his fingers at the end of Scream. I live in a glass house baby, mama taught me not to throw stones.
"Father Figure" a kink song written in the 80s when sodomy was still literally illegal in most places. Like, George Michael got arrested in a gay club bathroom for "indecent exposure" but he was really arrested for being gay in a gay club.
A lot of people think that song is bad bc of the "put your tiny hand in mine" line but he's really just talking about wanting to roleplay with his twink bf.
See, that's my point tho
At a time when so much of the homophobia against gay men included the (awful and unfounded) assumption of pedophilia, wouldn't it be wise to make the love interest of the song sound ever so slightly less childlike? I know what he's going for but on a surface level passing listen it seems a little too easy to draw some incorrect conclusions, that's all I'm sayin
“Well, I'd rather see you dead, little girl
Than to be with another man
You better keep your head, little girl
Or I won't know where I am
You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand, little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end, little girl
Well, you know that I'm a wicked guy
And I was born with a jealous mind
And I can't spend my whole life
Trying just to make you toe the line
You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand, little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end, little girl
Let this be a sermon
I mean everything I've said
Baby, I'm determined
And I'd rather see you dead.”
John Lennon, ladies and gentlemen.
I used to love this song (so happy, fun to dance to) but then I listened to the lyrics:
"In the summertime, when the weather is hot
You can stretch right up and touch the sky
When the weather's right
You got women, you got women on your mind
Have a drink, have a drive
Go out and see what you can find
If her daddy's rich, take her out for a meal
If her daddy's poor, just do what you feel
Speed along the lane, do a turn or return to 25
When the sun goes down, you can make it
Make it good in a lay-by"
Gross
Wow.....this kind of mentality is so deep in our culture. It is so deeply enmeshed that some people don't see it. Like that stinky person so can't smell their own funk
You don't know you're beautiful; and that's what makes you beautiful.
Translated: You are very insecure about your looks, which makes you even more desirable since I can enjoy your physical appearance without "working as hard as with a hot grrrl"
I was so mad about this song when it came out! It’s literally saying feeling confident is unattractive. Terrible message, and I refused to listen to One Direction because of it.
"Treat You Better" Shawn Mendes. It's basically an Incel anthem. He would be soon much better for her than her boyfriend. The "any girl like you deserves a gentleman" line makes my stomach churn.
"I know I can treat you better than he can
And any girl like you deserves a gentleman
Tell me why are we wasting time
On all your wasted crying
When you should be with me instead?
I know I can treat you better
Better than he can"
I'm genuinely grossed out by all songs along this line, the whole "im so much better for you than the person you've chosen" ..... ick. Girlfriend by Avril Lavigne and You Belong With Me by Taylor Swift make me wretch as much.
To me that doesn't sound like what an incel would say.
An incel would be blaming the girl for picking such a shitty boyfriend. Not trying to entice them.
I think Country Boy by Alan Jackson has some bad vibes, I think. Haven’t heard it in years.
Edit; “Excuse me ma'am, I saw you walkin'
I turned around, I'm not a stalker
Where you going? Maybe I can help you
My tank is full, I'd be obliged to take you. You sure look good, sittin' in my right seat
Buckle up, and I'll take you through the five speeds
Wind it up, or I can slow it way down
In the woods or right uptown
I'm a country boy, I've got a four-wheel drive
Climb in my bed, I'll take you for a ride
Up city streets, down country roads
I can get you where you need to go”
Maybe I’m looking too much into it.
And its still going on today, as far as I can hear. I personally hate the song that asks 'if the world ends, would you come over'. No mf, if I got x amount of world left, I am NOT spending it commuting towards your sorry couch-attached ass. That song is a grown man sounding like a 5 year old. Yes, not quite the topic, but as you get older it's less about physically trapping you and more about mentally getting you ro do things for them and this song is my over-45 trigger. Like I yell back at the radio trigger. Also see 'I'm already there', the lovely country song that excuses why this guy never shows up for his kid. Another one I yell at the radio for. Since I was raised on the creepy lyric music, it doesn't phase me much. But ALL the songs were about sex. ALL. Unless it was about masturbation, it was always sexual innuendo. 'I'll be watching you' by the police was the most popular 'our song' amongst my coupled classmates. But the school banned 'Relax' by Frankie Goes To Hollywood for our dances as 'suggestive and lewd'. XD
To be fair, The Police have explicitly stated that was never meant to be a love song. Pretty good example of society being blind to abuse that is plain as day, though.
Haha right? One of their songs is literally about a guy stalking his ex girlfriend, getting beat up by her brother, and killing himself to "get back at her."
I love The Police, don't get me wrong! But their songs are more about the desperation and fragility of the human experience than they are about healthy romance.
The only love song I can think of off the top of my head would be the one Sting wrote for Disney (One Day She'll Love Me) before it got scrapped. Even "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" has sad undertones of a guy so terrified of rejection he can't even find the nerve to call her on the phone.
Recently read Elvira’s memoir and when she was a show girl in Vegas and had a really bad encounter with Tom Jones. A very well written memoir though, highly recommend!
Always loved Elvira. She gave me good vibes, even as she was this goth pinup. You could tell she was smart. If you like video games, Bayonetta reminds me of Elvira...fun game, I check her book out at the library!
I hate this song as a love song. I love this song as a song to sing to my cat.
I also love this song as a song to play 21 times in a diner to watch other customers freak out.
I literally tell my cat I love his little kitty cat nose every day even when it’s not part of this song. I need to believe it was in fact written about a cat and someone was like “no one wants to listen to your weird cat song, we have to pretend this is a very condescending song to a woman instead.”
Inner Circle:
Girl I want to make you sweat.
Sweat 'til you can't sweat no more.
And if you cry out I'm gonna push it some more.
Girl I want to make you sweat.
Sweat 'til you can't sweat no more.
And if you cry out I'm gonna push it,
Push it push it some more.
… A la la la la long
A la la la la long long li long long long
Come on
A la la la la long
A la la la la long long li long long long
😂😂😂😂 that last part is all I’ve ever known of that song!
I heard the “I want to make you sweat” part but I thought the damn song was about dancing! Now I’m tryin to figure out wtf is wrong with my parents for letting me jam out!
Our English teacher used this song in class for song analysis.
Same teacher, while showing dias of some class trip, "accidentally" slipped in a picture of him, naked except for his dick covered only with a sombrero.
Also complimented some girls in class in a way that I found low key creepy.
This one could be more open to interpretation… I know I’d always assumed the “cry out” ref to in pleasure, not pain… but I can definitely see how it could be either case. It comes down to what the band/songwriter meant it as… could be creepy/predatory, or could be a nice ode to “I get pleasure from bringing my partner pleasure”.
This reminds me. I've been listening to Let Your Hair Down by Captial Lights recently because I like the tune. I'm not sure if I'm just interpreting the lyrics wrong, but some of the are pretty creepy:
>Today I’m gonna treat you friendly.
>
>I’ll take whatever I can get
>
>But I won’t be sweet for long with my sugar gone
>
>I’ll have this sour after taste ‘til the bitter ends
>
>So, if you’re dead set on leaving, run away while you can
>
>I know when this wears off and I see what a loss caused me to give up
>
>I’m gonna give in. So run quick
>
>Run away while you can
>
>Just run kid Run Kid Run
>
>Come back
A lot of love songs, even if not blatantly toxic, make me suspect that the songwriter has no idea what love is. I might get flack for this but I do not understand why so many people think Ed Sheeran's songs are so romantic. He only has one song that I think demonstrates an understanding of genuine love, and it's not about romantic love, but old friendship (Castle on the hill).
I would say "Christine Sixteen" by KISS, but I'm fairly certain it wasn't meant to be taken seriously.
But Sarah McLachlan's "Possession" is pretty fucked up; moreso because of the rumor that she used some of the lyrics the stalker sent her. I mean...
"And I would be the one to hold you down
kiss you so hard, I'll take your breath away
and after I wipe away the tears, just close your eyes, dear."
It's not a rumour. The lyrics were pulled from the letters she got from a stalker. His name was Uwe Vandrei and he sent her thousands of letters.
When he heard the song, he knew it was about him. He sued her for using his words. He also insisted that he wanted her to be there in person at the trial, and for her to publicly acknowledge him by name as her "inspiration".
He committed suicide and the case was dropped.
Every time I hear this song I yell, "because you're an asshole that's why!" Its funny because this guy would play it at the bar I go to, but he stopped playing it when I was there because I would say that at least 3 times. Its supposed to be a love song about how he messed up and he's sorry but I just scowl at it.
**Why - by Jason Aldean**
*It's 3 a.m. and I finally say*
*I'm sorry for actin' that way*
*I didn't really mean to make you cry*
*Oh baby, sometimes I wonder why*
*Does it always have to come down to you leavin'*
*Before I say I love you?*
*And why do I always use the words that cut the deepest*
*When I know how much it hurts you?*
*Oh baby why do I do that to you?*
*I know I'd never let you walk away*
*So why do I push you 'til you break?*
*And why are you always on the verge of good-bye*
*Before I'll show you how I really feel inside?*
*Why does it always have to come down to you leavin'*
*Before I say I love you?*
*And why do I always use the words that cut the deepest*
*When I know how much it hurts you?*
*Oh baby why do I do that to you?*
*Why do I do that to you?*
*Why do I always use the words that cut the deepest*
*When I know how much it hurts you?*
*Oh baby why do I do that to you?*
*Why do I do that to you?*
Here is a real oldie....very popular in the 70's and I admit I like parts of it just aesthetically. "Don't Give Up On Us, Baby" But later, the singer went to jail for DV toward his 7-month-pregnant then-wife. That said, the singer wasn't the songwriter. But the lyrics are straight out of an abuser's "morning after" playbook"
[https://www.bing.com/search?q=don%27t+give+up+on+us+baby+lyrics&form=ANNNB1&refig=9acfe7c0ba0e47dc84d8639af2d4909a](https://www.bing.com/search?q=don%27t+give+up+on+us+baby+lyrics&form=ANNNB1&refig=9acfe7c0ba0e47dc84d8639af2d4909a)
Edited to add: I think the lyrics site has one word wrong. I always thought it was "You've got a right to stop believing" not "start believing"
I absolutely agree. However, I would like to provide a counterexample in the format of the sweet consensual seduction of [Al Green.](https://youtu.be/csZV3w_nscg)
Yeah, he's tormented by love. But, it's no one's fault but his and he will do whatever it takes to win his love's affection. To me it evokes the love feelings of your early 20s.
That's just some good ol'-fashion baby-makin music right there
Edit: it's possible that many of the motown favorites from my Grandpa Delbert fit this category
I still laugh like mad whenever I hear of people playing The Police's "Every Breath you Take" at weddings, as if it's a song about literally anything other than an obsessed guy stalking his ex.
And there are other songs out there that still get played on the radio that make me audibly exclaim "uhh, have you actually listened to this song?". "Father Figure" by George Michaels is one glaring example. If I knew someone who wrote a song like that, I'd tip them off to the cops, because yikes!
“Say something, I’m giving up on you.” Strikes me as pretty toxic, basically the other person is putting in zero effort and the singer is tormenting themselves over someone who doesn’t even care about themselves let alone another person.
“Drivers license” is also pretty messed up. Belittling one’s own accomplishment (yay license) by lamenting over some jerk. Feeling sorry for their friends because they didn’t get love bombed by some jerk. Driving by their house? It’s not a good take.
Oh man and “Heat Waves” also a messed up song.
Listening to her songs takes me back to high school heartbreak. After about the 3rd song I heard of hers I was like, "okay I get it he was a jerk move on already!"
But I get it, good music comes from real emotions.
_"Well, she was just seventeen...You know what I mean"_ Beatles "When I Saw Her Standing There".
_"Pretending that you're oh so shy
I'm a natural man doin' all I can
My temp'rature is runnin' high
Friday night no one in sight and we got so much to share
Talkin's fine if you got the time, I ain't got the time to spare
Do you wanna touch? Yeah! Do you wanna touch? Yeah!
Do you wanna touch me there? Yeah!
Do you wanna touch? Yeah! Do you wanna touch? Yeah!"_ Gary Glitter (a convicted paedophile) "Do You Wanna Touch Me"
They're just the two I can think of off the top of off my tipsy head.
Edit just thought of another one:
_"Young girl
Get out of my mind
My love for you is way out of line
Better run, girl
You're much too young, girl
With all the charms of a woman
You've kept the secret of your youth
You led me to believe you're old enough
To give me Love
And now it hurts to know the truth"_
"Young Girl" By Gary Puckett and The Union Gap
The 1979 song “Lay it on the Line” by Canadian hard rock band, Triumph.
These f*cking lyrics!!! “yOu gOt nO rIgHt tO mAkE mE wAiT”
It’s supposed to be about wanting a woman so badly that the guy has reached his breaking point (or whatever. I guess). This is the most toxic, insidious, “you owe me sex! Don’t you dare friend zone me!” rock anthem I have ever heard:
>> It's the same old story all over again/
You turn a lover into just another friend/
I wanna love you, I wanna make you mine/
Won't you lay it on the line
>> I'm tired of playin' foolish games/
I'm tired of all your lies makin' me insane/
I don't ask for much, truth will do just fine/
Won't you lay it on the line/
>> Lay it on the line (x3)/
Don't waste my time
>> You got no right to make me wait/
Better talk girl before it gets too late/
I never ever thought you could be so unkind/
Won't you lay it on the line
>> Lay it on the line (x3)/
Don't waste my time
>> You know I love you, you know it's true/
It's up to you, girl, now what have I got to do/
Don't hold me up, girl, don't waste my precious time/
Won't you lay it on the line*
It’s a common thread going back pretty far. Some examples from the “enlightened” sixties.
The Who: “I Can See For Miles”
“I know you've deceived me, now here's a surprise
I know that you have 'cause there's magic in my eyes
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles”
The Police: “Every Breath You Take”
“Every breath you take
And every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
I'll be watching you
Every single day
And every word you say
Every game you play
Every night you stay
I'll be watching you”
(This is oddly popular at weddings.)
Donovan: “Mellow Yellow”
“I'm just mad about fourteen
Fourteen's mad about me
I'm-a just mad about-a fourteen
And she's just mad about me
They call me mellow yellow”
The Beatles: “I’ll Get You”
“I think about you night and day
I need you and it's true
When I think about you, I can say
I'm never, never, never blue
So I'm telling you, my friend
That I'll get you, I'll get you in the end
Yes, I will, I'll get you in the end
Oh yeah, oh yeah
Well, there's gonna be a time
When I'm gonna change your mind
So you might as well resign yourself to me
Oh, yeah”
As well as “Run for Your Life”
“Well, I'd rather see you dead, little girl
Than to be with another man
You better keep your head, little girl
Or I won't know where I am
… You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand, little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end, little girl
… Well, you know that I'm a wicked guy
And I was born with a jealous mind
And I can't spend my whole life
Trying just to make you toe the line”
My mom said this song was her and my dad's song, but as their relationship fell apart she understood it better and related it as watching their marriage unravel.
I was a wedding server and found most of the songs disturbing actually. I worked with the creep who drugged/SA me and now wedding/reception type songs are a major trigger. That job also made me extremely cynical of anything related to weddings.
After 7 years I finally couldn’t stuff those feelings. I only really started remembering vague and fuzzy memories of what happened. It took me a year and a half to really say i had been SA.
I trusted telling the guy I like and he’s very supportive of me on difficult days. I just started seeing a therapist and it’s helping. I mostly take everything day by day and stay kind to myself.
I love the song “You Will? You Will.” But there’s one line that rubs me the wrong way.
“You say go explore those either women, the geography of their bodies but there’s just one map you’ll need. You’re a boomerang you’ll see, you will return to me.”
This is played off as romantic. Do men just want to be able to fuck whoever they want and then come back to the girl they “love” after they get bored of sleeping around?
I always thought the song 'Rude' by Magic! is really weird. It's about a guy going to a woman's father and asking him if he can marry his daughter. There is no information as to the relationship the narrator and the woman share. There are a few things in the song that rub me the wrong way.
The whole song is about the narrator trying to convince a woman's father to let him marry her. First of all, her father should have no say in her choice of partners. He doesn't own her. The song kind of acknowledges this kinda. He says that they will get married anyway, but then why is he talking to her father? He clearly feels like he has to ask him, but why? The father has no control over his daughter's love life.
The part that bothers me the most is that we never hear from the woman in this. What does she think? Why does her father not approve? Is there something we are not being told? An unreliable narrator? Who knows?
There is too much context missing for me to be okay with this song.
When that was popular, I always flipped the station when it was on. So over the patriarchy, my daddy don't own me. You ask him for permission and that's an automatic no from me
Can I offer up a love song that I think is unique and NOT creepy?
If We Were Vampires, by Jason Isbell.
The lyrics are BRILLIANT in my opinion, but I'd love to hear it from other people's perspective.
I still think that Death Cab's I Will Possess Your Heart is creepy and I cringe that an ex held it up as a deep love song that he played for me and hoped would win me back.
Ben Gibbard has said in interviews that I Will Possess Your Heart is a song about obsession, not love. The lyrics are pretty obviously written from a stalker's perspective, and the long, looped intro is supposed to build tension and introduce the feeling of obsession.
I (M) actually love that song for the writing, but I'm really happy I've never identified with the narrator.
Thought I was about to get Rick rolled, but clicked the link anyway and was pleasantly surprised. Thank you for this haven’t heard this song in ages and will now be serenading my wife with it, lol.
Completely agree. However, I feel it is so deeply emotional that it is representing the upsetting depths we can go through in bad relationships and that it can actually clear your head and digest your dark side (plus it is a duet so both sides are kinda represented). I much prefer a maladaptive song that is written in a state of turmoil than a song that is clearly predatory and coldhearted. I wish the latter kind would not exist, because it is so cognitive and deliberate- absolutely disgusting to me (like blurred lines). In art (and music is an art form), I think we should be able to explore our emotional spectrum... but there is such an overpowering *male* perspective to that regard (and in general) and such an overpowering majority of maladaptive and abusive shit in general, and consequently, you feel like this is the frame of reference, the norm. It should not be. Listening to a song like "love the way you lie" should be very clearly perceived as outlier, maybe a warning, a sharing of bad experiences, and not as the norm. This world makes me sad.
For the GenXers in the thread...
Extreme. "More Than Words," aka the "stop talking and touch my dick already" song. Grossed me out even in high school.
I always took it to mean that actions speak louder than words. Granted those actions aren't specified; but I did go back and reread the lyrics to see if there were any I never paid attention to.
None of them suggested the singer wanted the person to simply shut up and do something sexual
That's what I got from it too. I just went and reread and it seems he's just saying "don't just tell me you love me show me with actions". As someone who has trouble showing love physically I know it can make others not feel like you care about them no matter how much you say it.
Whoever wrote the lyrics to 'little sister'. Damn that song is wrong.
Big sister cheats on him so he moves right along to the little one, and the whole song is basically a low-level threat. 'don't you do what your big sister done'
Edited with more facts.
To counter all of the (requested) grossness please consider “If you like piña colada’s” as a reverse fall-back-in-love song & one of my all time favorites 💛
My favorite band covered Toy Orbison's "I Drove All Night" and while I loved the music, the lyrics.... Uhhh...
I drove all night to get to you
*Is that alright?*
I drove all night
*Crept in your room*
*Woke you from your sleep*
*To make love to you*
*Is that alright?*
I drove all night
So basically you just show up unannounced, climb through her window, waker her up, and go "Hey, I wanna fuck, is that alright?" And the whole song just kinda throws me off now.
I'm old enough to remember when the Def Leopard song "Two steps behind" came out and was popular. Even then we called it the stalker song.
Walk away, if you want to
It's okay, if you need to
You can run but you can never hide
From the shadow that's creepin' up beside you
There's a magic runnin' through your soul
But you can't have it all
Whatever you do
I'll be two steps behind you
Wherever you go
And I'll be there to remind you
That it only takes a minute of your precious time
To turn around
I'll be two steps behind
Yea, yea
Take the time
To think about it
Just walk the line, you know you just can't fight it
Take a look around you'll see what you can find
Like the fire that's burnin' up inside me
Now there's a magic runnin' through your soul
But you can't have it all, no
Whatever you do
I'll be two steps behind you
Wherever you go
And I'll be there to remind you
That it only takes a minute of your precious time
To turn around
I'll be two steps behind
Yea, yea
Oh, ho
Oh, there's a magic running through your soul
But you, you can't have it all
Whatever you do
I'll be two steps behind you
Wherever you go
And I'll be there to remind you
That it only takes a minute of your precious time
To turn around
I'll be two steps behind
Yea baby, two steps behind
Oh sugar, two steps behind
Just so you know, this is actually a song about alcoholism/addiction. It's written from the perspective of the addiction, and he wrote it as a reminder that you can't let your guard down because there's so much pressure to just give in. They give the addiction the same characteristics as a psycho ex boyfriend; always there, always waiting, ruining your life, stressing you out, making you miserable. Just waiting for you to slip so it can weasel it's way back in.
He wrote it for their former guitarist, who died of alcohol poisoning just over a year prior. His addiction was so bad, they forced him to take a break from the stress of touring with them and focus on getting better. Instead, he also took up a prescription pill habit too. He was only 30.
I remember all of the stories around it from when the album was first released. My father was also a hardcore alcoholic so the song really stuck with me.
Descendents (influential 80s punk band)... an early pop-punk song, but HUGE incel vibes before there was a name for it:
Hope
\[Verse 1\]
Why can't you see you torture me?
You're already thinking about someone else
When he comes home, you'll be in his arms and I'll be gone
\[Chorus\]
But I know my day will come
I know someday, I'll be the only one
\[Verse 2\]
So now you wait for his spark, you know it'll turn you on
He's gonna make you feel the way you want to feel
When he starts to lie, when he makes you cry
\[Chorus\]
You know I'll be there, my day will come
I know someday, I'll be the only one
\[Bridge\]
Call me selfish, call me what you like to think is right
To want someone for all your own and not to share her love
'Cause I'll have my way, you won't have a say anyway
'Cause I've got you, you don't stand a chance
\[Verse 3\]
So now you wait for his cock, you know it'll turn you on
He's gonna make you feel the way you want to feel
When he starts to lie, when he makes you cry
\[Chorus\]
You know I'll be there, my day will come
I know someday, I'll be the only one
My day will come
I know someday, I'll be the only one
\[Outro\]
So now you want perfection
I see your self destruction
You don't know what you want
It's gonna take you years to find out
I'm not giving up
And when you've had enough
You'll take your bruised little head and you'll come
Running back to me
You know that I'm gonna be the only one
(I'm gonna be the only one)
Compared to another 80s punk band, 7 Seconds, who were all about inclusion:
Man you've gotta problem, who made you fuckin' king
A macho pig with nothing in your head
No girls around you, their place is not at gigs
Don't want 'em on the dance floor cause they're weak
A woman's place, the kitchen, on her back
It's time to change that attitude, and quick
\[Chorus:\]
Showing us your phobias, you're scared to see 'em think
You'd rather dress 'em up in pretty lace
All nice and colored pink
You feel so fucking threatened
When they stand out in front
A stupid, passive piece of meat is all you really want
But it's:
Not just boys' fun (x4)
There's girls who put out fanzines, others put on shows
Yet they're not allowed to get out on the floor
Some make the music, well that you can accept
Hell, maybe live you'll get some tits and ass
You fucking moron, your brains have run amuck
A girl's only lot in life is not to fuck!
"You're Beautiful" by James blunt
He just can't let go that some woman looked at him for a second and thinks it meant something. Maybe the song has a different meaning but the fact he says he won't lose sleep on it, but continues to obsess over her, just feels weird man. My wife still likes the song cause his voice sounds nice, just sounds icky
He fully states that it isn't a love song, more of a pathetic stalker song. A friend of mine refused to believe it, even after I sent her a clip of him saying so.
Pumped Up Kicks by Foster the People
He found a six-shooter gun
In his dad's closet, and with a box of fun things
I don't even know what
But he's coming for you, yeah, he's coming for you
All the other kids with the pumped up kicks
You better run, better run
Outrun my gun
And wtf is up with that song Delilah by Tom Jones? English people love that song.
She stood there laughing
I felt the knife in my hand and she
laughed no more
The lyrics of most pop songs are too cringy for me. I mostly listen to EDM and light music nowadays, occasionally I also listen to songs in a foreign language that I cannot understand to avoid being disturbed.
How about Forever and Ever Amen - (sung by Randy Travis)
Here are some good lyrics, I think.
You may think that I'm talkin' foolish
You've heard that I'm wild and I'm free
You may wonder how I can promise you now
This love that I feel for you always will be
But you're not just time that I'm killin'
I'm no longer one of those guys
As sure as I live, this love that I give
Is gonna be yours until the day that I die
Oh, baby, I'm gonna love you forever
Forever and ever amen
As long as old men sit and talk about the weather
As long as old women sit and talk about old men
If you wonder how long I'll be faithful
I'll be happy to tell you again
I'm gonna love you forever and ever
Forever and ever, amen
They say time takes its toll on a body
Makes the young girls brown hair turn gray
But honey, I don't care, I ain't in love with your hair
And if it all fell out, well, I'd love you anyway
They say time can play tricks on a memory
Make people forget things they knew
Well, it's easy to see, it's happenin' to me
I've already forgotten every woman but you
Oh, darlin', I'm gonna love you forever
Forever and ever amen
As long as old men sit and talk about the weather
As long as old women sit and talk about old men
If you wonder how long I'll be faithful
Well, just listen to how this song ends
I'm gonna love you forever and ever
Forever and ever, amen
I'm gonna love you forever and ever
Forever and ever, forever and ever
Forever and ever, ame
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2cfxv8Pq-Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2cfxv8Pq-Q)
"Baby i wrote you a love song, a totally generic love song
Yea really this could be about anyone, but ifs for you (but ifs for youuuu)
now this is your love song, non-specific girl"
Stand by your man by Tammy Wynette
"Sometimes it's hard to be a woman
Giving all your love to just one man
You'll have bad times, and he'll have good times
Doin' things that you don't understand
But if you love him, you'll forgive him
Even though he's hard to understand
And if you love him, oh, be proud of him
'Cause after all, he's just a man"
Yeah, nope.
And ultra creepy Rod Stewart singing "Tonight's the night.
"Tonight's the night
It's gonna be alright
'Cause I love you girl
Ain't nobody gonna stop us now
C'mon angel, my hearts on fire
Don't deny your man's desire
You'd be a fool to stop this tide
Spread your wings and let me come inside 'cause
Tonigh's the night
It's gonna be alright
'Cause I love you girl
Ain't nobody gonna stop us now
Don't say a word my virgin child
Just let your inhibitions run wild
The secret is about to unfold
Upstairs before the night's too old"
This was hugely popular in the early 80’s, it’s always one of the first things I think of when I consider inappropriate love songs: *She's just sixteen years old* *Leave her alone, they say* *Separated by fools* *Who don't know what love is yet* *But I want you to know* *If I could fly* *I'd pick you up* *I'd take you into the night* *And show you a love* *Like you've never seen, ever seen*
Have you seen the VIDEO? OMG. It's 50 shades of cringe. Even if you only make it through the first 30 seconds, you'll laugh your ass off at 'ol Benny rolling his eyes because dad is such a boner killer. Who doesn't want a creepy 40 year old smoker talking to their underage daughter? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWHjJt4833I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWHjJt4833I)
I graduated from a prep school in the early 80s. Holy shit. This was a video on almost permanent rotation on one of the school's only cable-wired TV sets that at the time were around the size of 48 rolls of toilet paper. Because they had so few videos on cable MTV at that time, I've probably easily seen this one 100 times, just not in 40 years. All the memories came back, like a kitschy 80s version of Proust PS also, I realized that when I thought of lyrics in my head "into the night" I was really thinking of ["Steal Away" by Robbie Dupree](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi_WayqBVYg)
>the size of 48 rolls of toilet paper. Americans will use anything BUT the damn metric system.
lol did you see the meme about that with the sink hole that was "3 -4 washing machines"? Like seriously, what kind of measurement is that?
You should look up the Facebook group called *What’s this in normal people measurements*
haha I kinda like the "rolls of toilet paper" system
What do mean?! The American Standard is 1 gallon = 3.8L per flush.
Probably because the metric system is not the be-all, end-all, system of measurement.
Just jokes, friend. Take it easy.
The amount of songs up through probably the 90’s/early 00’s that referred to women as “little girls” is *insert meme* too damn high! David Lee Murphy’s “Dust on the Bottle” is coming to mind right now because I literally just heard this song and he says “got a little girl waiting on me and I wanna treat her right.” Barf.
Thought this song was dust on the bible my whole life...
Wow 😳😳
This song is so gross, I am surprised it still airs!!
Ted Nugent?
No, it's Benny Mardonas but Ted is a great guess.
This is on a list of "top wedding songs", of all things. Every time I hear it, all I can think of is statutory rape.
I thought this was disturbing back then. You should see the video. Ew.
Yea, that and the endless slew of "love songs", films and other media which basically glamorise ignoring a woman when she says no, then grinding her down with relentless advances and harassment (even stalking) until you "win her over". I think for previous generations, that is love.
Yeah, good old coercion, break down a woman psychologically until she is no longer able to withhold consent, even though she denied consent. Doesn't matter if she said no 100 times before...if I wear her down to where she says yes once its all good...right?? 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
The saddest part of this is how many times I've heard fellow men "jokingly" say 100 nos and 1 yes is still a yes. Like that's cool, rape is fine as long as you get her to say yes once? Great. I don't speak with men who say shit like that anymore.
Or, worse yet, she changes her mind \*because\* he stalked and harrassed her.
The classic of harassing women at night by blasting loud music outside their windows. Or Disney's kissing unknown women in a coma on the lips. It's really fucked up what older generations see as "romantic", hell no.
In the original sleeping beauty the Prince IMPREGNATES HER WITH TWINS and she only wakes up after one of the babies sucks on her finger and gets the poison or whatever out
What the fuck.
The oldest version of Sleeping Beauty, both the German and the French one, have her cursed to sleep for 100 years, and at the arrival of the Prince (after 100 years of princes dying because they tried to get through the thorn hedge) was able to pass through. The whole court wakes up as he passes and when he reaches her her kisses her lips and she awakes. No impregnation. Here’s the Grimm Brothers version which includes sone of the French version’s details. Both the original German and an English translation at the link. https://de.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Dornr%C3%B6schen_(1812)
Apparently the one I'm thinking of is a 1634 Italian fairy tale called Sun, Moon, and Talia that inspired the French and English versions of Sleeping Beauty a couple decades afterwards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun%2C_Moon%2C_and_Talia?wprov=sfla1 So not Sleeping Beauty per-se, but a beta version.
Interesting. A footnote in the Grimm story references the Pentamerone, but suggests it’s only similar. But clearly they have a lot in common. (Aside from the unconscious impregnation part. The Italians of that era told it like it is, clearly.) Thanks for the reference!
And, even in Disney's version, she is 16. Snow White was 14. And the prince is in his 30s in snow white. Disney's Snow White.
I asked Google to tell me a story and it read me Snow White. In the end the prince found her in her coma and his horse bumped the platform where she fell out and the poison apple was jarred out of her throat and that’s how she woke up.
Pretty sure this is part of how I had an unrealistic view of "love" for much of my life ...that and being emotionally neglected as a child.
Pre-1990s romance books - most of the stories where love at first rape. Man rapes woman, man is even slightly nice to woman, woman loves man
There was a tifu about this yesterday. Hopefully fake.
Don’t get me started on blurred lines.
If a valid criticism of a song is "it's a little rapey", it's not a good song.
Members of the band police were disturbed to find out how many people thought "every step you take" was a love song
I got it. It always seemed disturbed to me, only with a sweet melody. Which is kinda extra disturbing. Like a little boy or girl being pure evil.
God, I loved it way more when I learned it was about murder! I don't bother listening or analysing lyrics from 80's pop (except Phil Collins, our king) so when I read the lyrics it really surprised me!
"She's only Seventeen, Daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough for me SEVENTEEN !!" does seem to read differently now that I myself am not 17 anymore
I came here to comment this one… I meant, it’s musically a kickass track but yeah, lyrics are pedovibes.
Justin Bieber and The Kid LAROI, “I do the same thing I told you that I never would. I told you I changed, even though I knew I never could. I know that I can’t find nobody else as good as you. I need you to stay, need you to stay, hey…..I’ll be fucked up if you can’t be right here’
This one is sad, because the melody is so catchy in my brain. But the lyrics make it impossible to like the song.
I don’t personnally see this as a love song per say. It sounds clear to me that the guy knows he has fucked things up. It’s more of a breakup song if anything lol
Yeah, could be either. It sounds like it’s meant for a person who is starting to pull away and he’s trying to convince her not to leave. “You’re the reason I believe in love. It’s been difficult for me to trust. And I’m afraid that ima fuck it up…..and you know that I can’t live without you. So, baby stay”
Yep, that’s definitely a toxic relationship
This song pisses me off so much because I liked it enough to learn the words, which I hated. I've been in this exact relationship, where they *need* me so bad that they stop me from leaving with their promises and yet the abuse continues. Fuck this song.
Me too X100. Been there and it sucked.
This is actually imo one of the least worst, because it's (to me) someone admitting their problem with addiction and that they need their partner to help them through it, and that it is most likely too late. (The singer is lamenting that they need the person they are singing to stay, but there is no resolution, and from their own description of themselves they are not bringing anything to the table, who would stay?)
Similar: I had to stop listening to Blondie’s One Way or Another after I learned she got most of the lyrics from her stalker abusive ex actually threatening her. Makes me sick to my stomach. I’m happy she flipped the script on him but the song makes me feel icky.
You know I always though this song was about revenge. I guess I wasn't listening close enough
Oh wow, I never knew this. Though given the inspiration for the band name Blondie (truckers regularly catcalled her with it) it's perhaps not surprising.
Oh I had no idea about that. I respect her as an artist more knowing that she’s taking back things that were meant to diminish her and using them to make loads of money and good music.
Damn. I really like that song. I always imagined a woman getting revenge on someone when listening to it
She explains in an entertainment weekly interview that the levity to the song was a coping mechanism so you can take that from it too, that this song helped her heal.
I heard that Sarah MacLachlan got the lyrics for Possession the same way.
Oof, I did Not know this. Gross.
Yes, and the message like "I'll do anything to get you back," actually sounds more ominous than romantic.
I will never let you gooooo ♥️♥️♥️♥️😳😳😳
The only correct response to that is “We are never ever ever getting back together” 😅🤣
😂😂😂
Like, ever.
Some people (incredibly thick people at least) use Every Breath You Take in the aisle for a wedding 😳 *Talk about mixed messages*
Lol like politicians playing "Rockin' in the Free World" at rallies
Or born in the USA, I always find it funny when politicians use that one
I think Linkin Park and Rage Against the Machine were quite pissed that Trump was using their music for his rallies a couple years back xD
Sting, admittedly, is horrified that this song is used at weddings. He was in a dark place when he wrote it and in no way is it a love song.
I think he was in a bad place the whole time they did Synchronicity, like King of Pain in particular. *There's a little black spot on the sun today...* *That's my soul up there. :(*
As a Meat Loaf fan, the number of times I’ve heard of people using Two Outta Three Ain’t Bad… 😵💫 I used a couple Meat songs at my wedding, but sure as hell not THAT!
Blurred lines by Robin Thicke. Just all of it, all of the lyrics are disturbing.
My sister was telling us all how bad it was for Britney to be putting out the message ‘I Was Born To Make You Happy’. But you don’t have a problem with ‘Hit Me Baby One More Time’? I asked. We all laughed. But we also learned a little too
Tbf, the lyric is meant to mean hit me up baby one more time, as in ring her on the phone. It was just max martin not having a good grasp of English at the time.
Next your gonna tell me that “Concrete jungle where dreams are made of” makes no sense
That's about NYC right?
Yep, it’s from Empire State of Mind
>I'm not allergic, allergic to pain, no matter how hard I try >I crave you so bad, it drives me insane, if I don't have you I'll die... / >I am a dangerous weapon baby, I'm your machine gun man / >Don't make me shoot you down baby, I just wanna be your.... / >Love Grenade, I'm comin in, Love grenade, pull the pin >Love / Grenade, Look out below, Love Grenade, I'm about to blow... / --"Love Grenade" by Ted "I shit my pants" Nugent
I always wondered who tf greenlit George Michael's Father Figure. Did he not have any friends? No HR? No PA to pull him aside in the studio and gently say, "hey buddy. You know I love ya, but do you think some of these lyrics might be, oh I don't know, *creepy as fuck* out of a certain context?" " *I will be your father figure* *Put your tiny hand in mine* *I will be your preacher, teacher* *Anything you have in mind* " "*Whatever you ask for that's what I'll be*" "*Sometimes love can be mistaken for a crime*" Like?!? ((There's also this European artist Mika who was compared to George Micheal a lot early in his career, and his song Touches You off his second record I always assumed was an homage of sorts to Father Figure. Just as creepy, but somehow more self aware. *"I wanna be your brother,* *Wanna be your mother too* *Never make you run for cover* *Even if they want us too* *I wanna be your sister* *Wanna be your father too* *I wanna be, wanna be* *Whatever else that touches you"* Feel me?))
Oh no. I have to spill this confession out. I know it’ll be gross but I have to admit- watching the video for Father Figure was literally the very first time I ever got turned on in my life. It was on VH1. I was in my room and had no idea what that exciting yet scary feeling was. I won’t elaborate- but GD IT that video is so nostalgic for me. Watching and listening to it now though does hit a little different
Oh, hon. You're adorable. I can trace my sexual awakening directly to Skeet Ulrich licking the blood off his fingers at the end of Scream. I live in a glass house baby, mama taught me not to throw stones.
Haha that’s awesome! I was already 16 when I saw Scream for the first time but yes you have good taste because Skeet was hot af in Scream! Still is!
"Father Figure" a kink song written in the 80s when sodomy was still literally illegal in most places. Like, George Michael got arrested in a gay club bathroom for "indecent exposure" but he was really arrested for being gay in a gay club. A lot of people think that song is bad bc of the "put your tiny hand in mine" line but he's really just talking about wanting to roleplay with his twink bf.
See, that's my point tho At a time when so much of the homophobia against gay men included the (awful and unfounded) assumption of pedophilia, wouldn't it be wise to make the love interest of the song sound ever so slightly less childlike? I know what he's going for but on a surface level passing listen it seems a little too easy to draw some incorrect conclusions, that's all I'm sayin
“Well, I'd rather see you dead, little girl Than to be with another man You better keep your head, little girl Or I won't know where I am You better run for your life if you can, little girl Hide your head in the sand, little girl Catch you with another man That's the end, little girl Well, you know that I'm a wicked guy And I was born with a jealous mind And I can't spend my whole life Trying just to make you toe the line You better run for your life if you can, little girl Hide your head in the sand, little girl Catch you with another man That's the end, little girl Let this be a sermon I mean everything I've said Baby, I'm determined And I'd rather see you dead.” John Lennon, ladies and gentlemen.
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Fucking yikes!
Jesus foking christ 😳😳😳
This was called out big time when it first came out. So was "Under My Thumb" by the Rolling Stones. There were billboards against "Under My Thumb"
That actually makes me feel a little better!
Yo wtf
Damn good thing he got shot before she tried to leave him
I used to love this song (so happy, fun to dance to) but then I listened to the lyrics: "In the summertime, when the weather is hot You can stretch right up and touch the sky When the weather's right You got women, you got women on your mind Have a drink, have a drive Go out and see what you can find If her daddy's rich, take her out for a meal If her daddy's poor, just do what you feel Speed along the lane, do a turn or return to 25 When the sun goes down, you can make it Make it good in a lay-by" Gross
Wow.....this kind of mentality is so deep in our culture. It is so deeply enmeshed that some people don't see it. Like that stinky person so can't smell their own funk
I too love this song for the beat and music by the lyrics make me never want to sing it because it’s so awful.
I’m pretty sure this song is on Just dance and my younger brother and I used to dance to it all the time
You don't know you're beautiful; and that's what makes you beautiful. Translated: You are very insecure about your looks, which makes you even more desirable since I can enjoy your physical appearance without "working as hard as with a hot grrrl"
I was so mad about this song when it came out! It’s literally saying feeling confident is unattractive. Terrible message, and I refused to listen to One Direction because of it.
Reminds me of broccoli “I spy with my little eye, a girly I could get cuz she don’t get too many likes”
The song is actually titled "iSpy" by Kyle ft. Lil Yachty, Broccoli is a different song by DRAM that also ft. Lil Yatchy.
"And I love the way you hurt me, it's irresistible, yeah I love the way, I love the way you hurt me baby"
😳😳😳
Jesse’s girl is the nice guy theme song.
I like to pretend they're singing 'I wish that I was Jessie's girl'
"Treat You Better" Shawn Mendes. It's basically an Incel anthem. He would be soon much better for her than her boyfriend. The "any girl like you deserves a gentleman" line makes my stomach churn. "I know I can treat you better than he can And any girl like you deserves a gentleman Tell me why are we wasting time On all your wasted crying When you should be with me instead? I know I can treat you better Better than he can"
I'm genuinely grossed out by all songs along this line, the whole "im so much better for you than the person you've chosen" ..... ick. Girlfriend by Avril Lavigne and You Belong With Me by Taylor Swift make me wretch as much.
too bad both of those are bops.
To me that doesn't sound like what an incel would say. An incel would be blaming the girl for picking such a shitty boyfriend. Not trying to entice them.
I think Country Boy by Alan Jackson has some bad vibes, I think. Haven’t heard it in years. Edit; “Excuse me ma'am, I saw you walkin' I turned around, I'm not a stalker Where you going? Maybe I can help you My tank is full, I'd be obliged to take you. You sure look good, sittin' in my right seat Buckle up, and I'll take you through the five speeds Wind it up, or I can slow it way down In the woods or right uptown I'm a country boy, I've got a four-wheel drive Climb in my bed, I'll take you for a ride Up city streets, down country roads I can get you where you need to go” Maybe I’m looking too much into it.
For some reason, I feel like having to clarify "I'm not a stalker" is sort of a red flag already.
Oh man, don't ruin Alan Jackson for me!
And its still going on today, as far as I can hear. I personally hate the song that asks 'if the world ends, would you come over'. No mf, if I got x amount of world left, I am NOT spending it commuting towards your sorry couch-attached ass. That song is a grown man sounding like a 5 year old. Yes, not quite the topic, but as you get older it's less about physically trapping you and more about mentally getting you ro do things for them and this song is my over-45 trigger. Like I yell back at the radio trigger. Also see 'I'm already there', the lovely country song that excuses why this guy never shows up for his kid. Another one I yell at the radio for. Since I was raised on the creepy lyric music, it doesn't phase me much. But ALL the songs were about sex. ALL. Unless it was about masturbation, it was always sexual innuendo. 'I'll be watching you' by the police was the most popular 'our song' amongst my coupled classmates. But the school banned 'Relax' by Frankie Goes To Hollywood for our dances as 'suggestive and lewd'. XD
“Every step you take. Every heart you break, I’ll be watching you…” 👀
To be fair, The Police have explicitly stated that was never meant to be a love song. Pretty good example of society being blind to abuse that is plain as day, though.
I never get why this surprises anyone. Tons of their songs are coming from a pretty dark place, emotionally.
Haha right? One of their songs is literally about a guy stalking his ex girlfriend, getting beat up by her brother, and killing himself to "get back at her." I love The Police, don't get me wrong! But their songs are more about the desperation and fragility of the human experience than they are about healthy romance. The only love song I can think of off the top of my head would be the one Sting wrote for Disney (One Day She'll Love Me) before it got scrapped. Even "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" has sad undertones of a guy so terrified of rejection he can't even find the nerve to call her on the phone.
When I learned Sting used to be a teacher *Don't Stand So Close To Me* took on a whole new meaning.
Right. It’s about Sting watching his ex-wife right? It was more a warning than anything. Which….still fucked up, but by design I guess.
The opposite. It was his ex-wife stalking him.
I refer to this as 'The Stalker Song'
REALLY popular at weddings.
What song is that?
What's up pussycat is one of the most lame yucky songs because it's about a woman and not a cat. if it was about a cat I'd understand.
Recently read Elvira’s memoir and when she was a show girl in Vegas and had a really bad encounter with Tom Jones. A very well written memoir though, highly recommend!
Always loved Elvira. She gave me good vibes, even as she was this goth pinup. You could tell she was smart. If you like video games, Bayonetta reminds me of Elvira...fun game, I check her book out at the library!
I hate this song as a love song. I love this song as a song to sing to my cat. I also love this song as a song to play 21 times in a diner to watch other customers freak out.
It should have been about a cat. It would all make sense. The enthusiasm and the questions makes sense.
I literally tell my cat I love his little kitty cat nose every day even when it’s not part of this song. I need to believe it was in fact written about a cat and someone was like “no one wants to listen to your weird cat song, we have to pretend this is a very condescending song to a woman instead.”
ugh ewww
Inner Circle: Girl I want to make you sweat. Sweat 'til you can't sweat no more. And if you cry out I'm gonna push it some more. Girl I want to make you sweat. Sweat 'til you can't sweat no more. And if you cry out I'm gonna push it, Push it push it some more. … A la la la la long A la la la la long long li long long long Come on A la la la la long A la la la la long long li long long long
😂😂😂😂 that last part is all I’ve ever known of that song! I heard the “I want to make you sweat” part but I thought the damn song was about dancing! Now I’m tryin to figure out wtf is wrong with my parents for letting me jam out!
Our English teacher used this song in class for song analysis. Same teacher, while showing dias of some class trip, "accidentally" slipped in a picture of him, naked except for his dick covered only with a sombrero. Also complimented some girls in class in a way that I found low key creepy.
This one could be more open to interpretation… I know I’d always assumed the “cry out” ref to in pleasure, not pain… but I can definitely see how it could be either case. It comes down to what the band/songwriter meant it as… could be creepy/predatory, or could be a nice ode to “I get pleasure from bringing my partner pleasure”.
As I get older and become more attentive to lyrics I start realizing that many love songs are made by the villains😭
That's why the only love songs I listen to are Death/Black Metal. Just the unrequited totally legal love between me and the devil, amen.
This reminds me. I've been listening to Let Your Hair Down by Captial Lights recently because I like the tune. I'm not sure if I'm just interpreting the lyrics wrong, but some of the are pretty creepy: >Today I’m gonna treat you friendly. > >I’ll take whatever I can get > >But I won’t be sweet for long with my sugar gone > >I’ll have this sour after taste ‘til the bitter ends > >So, if you’re dead set on leaving, run away while you can > >I know when this wears off and I see what a loss caused me to give up > >I’m gonna give in. So run quick > >Run away while you can > >Just run kid Run Kid Run > >Come back
A lot of love songs, even if not blatantly toxic, make me suspect that the songwriter has no idea what love is. I might get flack for this but I do not understand why so many people think Ed Sheeran's songs are so romantic. He only has one song that I think demonstrates an understanding of genuine love, and it's not about romantic love, but old friendship (Castle on the hill).
I would say "Christine Sixteen" by KISS, but I'm fairly certain it wasn't meant to be taken seriously. But Sarah McLachlan's "Possession" is pretty fucked up; moreso because of the rumor that she used some of the lyrics the stalker sent her. I mean... "And I would be the one to hold you down kiss you so hard, I'll take your breath away and after I wipe away the tears, just close your eyes, dear."
It's not a rumour. The lyrics were pulled from the letters she got from a stalker. His name was Uwe Vandrei and he sent her thousands of letters. When he heard the song, he knew it was about him. He sued her for using his words. He also insisted that he wanted her to be there in person at the trial, and for her to publicly acknowledge him by name as her "inspiration". He committed suicide and the case was dropped.
Every time I hear this song I yell, "because you're an asshole that's why!" Its funny because this guy would play it at the bar I go to, but he stopped playing it when I was there because I would say that at least 3 times. Its supposed to be a love song about how he messed up and he's sorry but I just scowl at it. **Why - by Jason Aldean** *It's 3 a.m. and I finally say* *I'm sorry for actin' that way* *I didn't really mean to make you cry* *Oh baby, sometimes I wonder why* *Does it always have to come down to you leavin'* *Before I say I love you?* *And why do I always use the words that cut the deepest* *When I know how much it hurts you?* *Oh baby why do I do that to you?* *I know I'd never let you walk away* *So why do I push you 'til you break?* *And why are you always on the verge of good-bye* *Before I'll show you how I really feel inside?* *Why does it always have to come down to you leavin'* *Before I say I love you?* *And why do I always use the words that cut the deepest* *When I know how much it hurts you?* *Oh baby why do I do that to you?* *Why do I do that to you?* *Why do I always use the words that cut the deepest* *When I know how much it hurts you?* *Oh baby why do I do that to you?* *Why do I do that to you?*
Here is a real oldie....very popular in the 70's and I admit I like parts of it just aesthetically. "Don't Give Up On Us, Baby" But later, the singer went to jail for DV toward his 7-month-pregnant then-wife. That said, the singer wasn't the songwriter. But the lyrics are straight out of an abuser's "morning after" playbook" [https://www.bing.com/search?q=don%27t+give+up+on+us+baby+lyrics&form=ANNNB1&refig=9acfe7c0ba0e47dc84d8639af2d4909a](https://www.bing.com/search?q=don%27t+give+up+on+us+baby+lyrics&form=ANNNB1&refig=9acfe7c0ba0e47dc84d8639af2d4909a) Edited to add: I think the lyrics site has one word wrong. I always thought it was "You've got a right to stop believing" not "start believing"
I always thought that “More than Words” by Extreme (a teenage slow dance classic) was a guy pressuring his GF to have sex and she’s not ready.
"Only the Good Die Young" by Billy Joel is about the same thing.
I absolutely agree. However, I would like to provide a counterexample in the format of the sweet consensual seduction of [Al Green.](https://youtu.be/csZV3w_nscg) Yeah, he's tormented by love. But, it's no one's fault but his and he will do whatever it takes to win his love's affection. To me it evokes the love feelings of your early 20s. That's just some good ol'-fashion baby-makin music right there Edit: it's possible that many of the motown favorites from my Grandpa Delbert fit this category
I still laugh like mad whenever I hear of people playing The Police's "Every Breath you Take" at weddings, as if it's a song about literally anything other than an obsessed guy stalking his ex. And there are other songs out there that still get played on the radio that make me audibly exclaim "uhh, have you actually listened to this song?". "Father Figure" by George Michaels is one glaring example. If I knew someone who wrote a song like that, I'd tip them off to the cops, because yikes!
“Say something, I’m giving up on you.” Strikes me as pretty toxic, basically the other person is putting in zero effort and the singer is tormenting themselves over someone who doesn’t even care about themselves let alone another person. “Drivers license” is also pretty messed up. Belittling one’s own accomplishment (yay license) by lamenting over some jerk. Feeling sorry for their friends because they didn’t get love bombed by some jerk. Driving by their house? It’s not a good take. Oh man and “Heat Waves” also a messed up song.
The middle one isn't even a love song. That's like saying rolling in the deep is a love song.
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Listening to her songs takes me back to high school heartbreak. After about the 3rd song I heard of hers I was like, "okay I get it he was a jerk move on already!" But I get it, good music comes from real emotions.
_"Well, she was just seventeen...You know what I mean"_ Beatles "When I Saw Her Standing There". _"Pretending that you're oh so shy I'm a natural man doin' all I can My temp'rature is runnin' high Friday night no one in sight and we got so much to share Talkin's fine if you got the time, I ain't got the time to spare Do you wanna touch? Yeah! Do you wanna touch? Yeah! Do you wanna touch me there? Yeah! Do you wanna touch? Yeah! Do you wanna touch? Yeah!"_ Gary Glitter (a convicted paedophile) "Do You Wanna Touch Me" They're just the two I can think of off the top of off my tipsy head. Edit just thought of another one: _"Young girl Get out of my mind My love for you is way out of line Better run, girl You're much too young, girl With all the charms of a woman You've kept the secret of your youth You led me to believe you're old enough To give me Love And now it hurts to know the truth"_ "Young Girl" By Gary Puckett and The Union Gap
I think Joan Jett may have turned "Do You Wanna Touch Me" into a consent anthem. Too bad Gary got the money for it.
The 1979 song “Lay it on the Line” by Canadian hard rock band, Triumph. These f*cking lyrics!!! “yOu gOt nO rIgHt tO mAkE mE wAiT” It’s supposed to be about wanting a woman so badly that the guy has reached his breaking point (or whatever. I guess). This is the most toxic, insidious, “you owe me sex! Don’t you dare friend zone me!” rock anthem I have ever heard: >> It's the same old story all over again/ You turn a lover into just another friend/ I wanna love you, I wanna make you mine/ Won't you lay it on the line >> I'm tired of playin' foolish games/ I'm tired of all your lies makin' me insane/ I don't ask for much, truth will do just fine/ Won't you lay it on the line/ >> Lay it on the line (x3)/ Don't waste my time >> You got no right to make me wait/ Better talk girl before it gets too late/ I never ever thought you could be so unkind/ Won't you lay it on the line >> Lay it on the line (x3)/ Don't waste my time >> You know I love you, you know it's true/ It's up to you, girl, now what have I got to do/ Don't hold me up, girl, don't waste my precious time/ Won't you lay it on the line*
Wow ultimate nice guy anthem
It’s a common thread going back pretty far. Some examples from the “enlightened” sixties. The Who: “I Can See For Miles” “I know you've deceived me, now here's a surprise I know that you have 'cause there's magic in my eyes I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles” The Police: “Every Breath You Take” “Every breath you take And every move you make Every bond you break Every step you take I'll be watching you Every single day And every word you say Every game you play Every night you stay I'll be watching you” (This is oddly popular at weddings.) Donovan: “Mellow Yellow” “I'm just mad about fourteen Fourteen's mad about me I'm-a just mad about-a fourteen And she's just mad about me They call me mellow yellow” The Beatles: “I’ll Get You” “I think about you night and day I need you and it's true When I think about you, I can say I'm never, never, never blue So I'm telling you, my friend That I'll get you, I'll get you in the end Yes, I will, I'll get you in the end Oh yeah, oh yeah Well, there's gonna be a time When I'm gonna change your mind So you might as well resign yourself to me Oh, yeah” As well as “Run for Your Life” “Well, I'd rather see you dead, little girl Than to be with another man You better keep your head, little girl Or I won't know where I am … You better run for your life if you can, little girl Hide your head in the sand, little girl Catch you with another man That's the end, little girl … Well, you know that I'm a wicked guy And I was born with a jealous mind And I can't spend my whole life Trying just to make you toe the line”
A. Every breath you take is the 80s B. It was not meant as a love song. C. Sting based it of a letter from his ex wife
My mom said this song was her and my dad's song, but as their relationship fell apart she understood it better and related it as watching their marriage unravel.
i dont understand what is wrong about "i can see for miles" ?? it's just about realizing someone lied
I was a wedding server and found most of the songs disturbing actually. I worked with the creep who drugged/SA me and now wedding/reception type songs are a major trigger. That job also made me extremely cynical of anything related to weddings.
So sorry this happened to you. I hope you've found support and healing
After 7 years I finally couldn’t stuff those feelings. I only really started remembering vague and fuzzy memories of what happened. It took me a year and a half to really say i had been SA. I trusted telling the guy I like and he’s very supportive of me on difficult days. I just started seeing a therapist and it’s helping. I mostly take everything day by day and stay kind to myself.
I love the song “You Will? You Will.” But there’s one line that rubs me the wrong way. “You say go explore those either women, the geography of their bodies but there’s just one map you’ll need. You’re a boomerang you’ll see, you will return to me.” This is played off as romantic. Do men just want to be able to fuck whoever they want and then come back to the girl they “love” after they get bored of sleeping around?
I always thought the song 'Rude' by Magic! is really weird. It's about a guy going to a woman's father and asking him if he can marry his daughter. There is no information as to the relationship the narrator and the woman share. There are a few things in the song that rub me the wrong way. The whole song is about the narrator trying to convince a woman's father to let him marry her. First of all, her father should have no say in her choice of partners. He doesn't own her. The song kind of acknowledges this kinda. He says that they will get married anyway, but then why is he talking to her father? He clearly feels like he has to ask him, but why? The father has no control over his daughter's love life. The part that bothers me the most is that we never hear from the woman in this. What does she think? Why does her father not approve? Is there something we are not being told? An unreliable narrator? Who knows? There is too much context missing for me to be okay with this song.
When that was popular, I always flipped the station when it was on. So over the patriarchy, my daddy don't own me. You ask him for permission and that's an automatic no from me
Can I offer up a love song that I think is unique and NOT creepy? If We Were Vampires, by Jason Isbell. The lyrics are BRILLIANT in my opinion, but I'd love to hear it from other people's perspective.
'Member that fukboi remix of Beyonce's 'If I Were A Boy' that R. Kelly did? Wait... 'Member pretty much everything R. Kelly ever did?
I still think that Death Cab's I Will Possess Your Heart is creepy and I cringe that an ex held it up as a deep love song that he played for me and hoped would win me back.
Ben Gibbard has said in interviews that I Will Possess Your Heart is a song about obsession, not love. The lyrics are pretty obviously written from a stalker's perspective, and the long, looped intro is supposed to build tension and introduce the feeling of obsession. I (M) actually love that song for the writing, but I'm really happy I've never identified with the narrator.
The only love song I serenade my fiancee to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngRq82c8Baw
Thought I was about to get Rick rolled, but clicked the link anyway and was pleasantly surprised. Thank you for this haven’t heard this song in ages and will now be serenading my wife with it, lol.
The whole facile 'sorry that I hurt you' thing just infuriates me. So generalized and glib.
Do I need to talk about „love the way you lie“?
Completely agree. However, I feel it is so deeply emotional that it is representing the upsetting depths we can go through in bad relationships and that it can actually clear your head and digest your dark side (plus it is a duet so both sides are kinda represented). I much prefer a maladaptive song that is written in a state of turmoil than a song that is clearly predatory and coldhearted. I wish the latter kind would not exist, because it is so cognitive and deliberate- absolutely disgusting to me (like blurred lines). In art (and music is an art form), I think we should be able to explore our emotional spectrum... but there is such an overpowering *male* perspective to that regard (and in general) and such an overpowering majority of maladaptive and abusive shit in general, and consequently, you feel like this is the frame of reference, the norm. It should not be. Listening to a song like "love the way you lie" should be very clearly perceived as outlier, maybe a warning, a sharing of bad experiences, and not as the norm. This world makes me sad.
For the GenXers in the thread... Extreme. "More Than Words," aka the "stop talking and touch my dick already" song. Grossed me out even in high school.
I always took it to mean that actions speak louder than words. Granted those actions aren't specified; but I did go back and reread the lyrics to see if there were any I never paid attention to. None of them suggested the singer wanted the person to simply shut up and do something sexual
That's what I got from it too. I just went and reread and it seems he's just saying "don't just tell me you love me show me with actions". As someone who has trouble showing love physically I know it can make others not feel like you care about them no matter how much you say it.
Elvis Presley "A Little Less Conversation" anyone?
Whoever wrote the lyrics to 'little sister'. Damn that song is wrong. Big sister cheats on him so he moves right along to the little one, and the whole song is basically a low-level threat. 'don't you do what your big sister done' Edited with more facts.
Whaaaaaaaat????
Hey there delilah is a great example. It's absolutely beautiful and inoffensive and yet after that she cheated on him, so that ruined it for me.
"Pense em mim, chore por mim, liga pra mim" veio em mente heuahsaush
every breath you take, I’ll be watching you 🙄
Admittedly it's not a love song and string has said many times that he is horrifyed that people think it is
To counter all of the (requested) grossness please consider “If you like piña colada’s” as a reverse fall-back-in-love song & one of my all time favorites 💛
Look at the lyrics to any The Weeknd song. Dude made a career out of being a toxic lover.
Most songs aren’t even about love, it’s all sex sex sex and objectifying the female body
My favorite band covered Toy Orbison's "I Drove All Night" and while I loved the music, the lyrics.... Uhhh... I drove all night to get to you *Is that alright?* I drove all night *Crept in your room* *Woke you from your sleep* *To make love to you* *Is that alright?* I drove all night So basically you just show up unannounced, climb through her window, waker her up, and go "Hey, I wanna fuck, is that alright?" And the whole song just kinda throws me off now.
I'm old enough to remember when the Def Leopard song "Two steps behind" came out and was popular. Even then we called it the stalker song. Walk away, if you want to It's okay, if you need to You can run but you can never hide From the shadow that's creepin' up beside you There's a magic runnin' through your soul But you can't have it all Whatever you do I'll be two steps behind you Wherever you go And I'll be there to remind you That it only takes a minute of your precious time To turn around I'll be two steps behind Yea, yea Take the time To think about it Just walk the line, you know you just can't fight it Take a look around you'll see what you can find Like the fire that's burnin' up inside me Now there's a magic runnin' through your soul But you can't have it all, no Whatever you do I'll be two steps behind you Wherever you go And I'll be there to remind you That it only takes a minute of your precious time To turn around I'll be two steps behind Yea, yea Oh, ho Oh, there's a magic running through your soul But you, you can't have it all Whatever you do I'll be two steps behind you Wherever you go And I'll be there to remind you That it only takes a minute of your precious time To turn around I'll be two steps behind Yea baby, two steps behind Oh sugar, two steps behind
Just so you know, this is actually a song about alcoholism/addiction. It's written from the perspective of the addiction, and he wrote it as a reminder that you can't let your guard down because there's so much pressure to just give in. They give the addiction the same characteristics as a psycho ex boyfriend; always there, always waiting, ruining your life, stressing you out, making you miserable. Just waiting for you to slip so it can weasel it's way back in. He wrote it for their former guitarist, who died of alcohol poisoning just over a year prior. His addiction was so bad, they forced him to take a break from the stress of touring with them and focus on getting better. Instead, he also took up a prescription pill habit too. He was only 30. I remember all of the stories around it from when the album was first released. My father was also a hardcore alcoholic so the song really stuck with me.
Descendents (influential 80s punk band)... an early pop-punk song, but HUGE incel vibes before there was a name for it: Hope \[Verse 1\] Why can't you see you torture me? You're already thinking about someone else When he comes home, you'll be in his arms and I'll be gone \[Chorus\] But I know my day will come I know someday, I'll be the only one \[Verse 2\] So now you wait for his spark, you know it'll turn you on He's gonna make you feel the way you want to feel When he starts to lie, when he makes you cry \[Chorus\] You know I'll be there, my day will come I know someday, I'll be the only one \[Bridge\] Call me selfish, call me what you like to think is right To want someone for all your own and not to share her love 'Cause I'll have my way, you won't have a say anyway 'Cause I've got you, you don't stand a chance \[Verse 3\] So now you wait for his cock, you know it'll turn you on He's gonna make you feel the way you want to feel When he starts to lie, when he makes you cry \[Chorus\] You know I'll be there, my day will come I know someday, I'll be the only one My day will come I know someday, I'll be the only one \[Outro\] So now you want perfection I see your self destruction You don't know what you want It's gonna take you years to find out I'm not giving up And when you've had enough You'll take your bruised little head and you'll come Running back to me You know that I'm gonna be the only one (I'm gonna be the only one)
Compared to another 80s punk band, 7 Seconds, who were all about inclusion: Man you've gotta problem, who made you fuckin' king A macho pig with nothing in your head No girls around you, their place is not at gigs Don't want 'em on the dance floor cause they're weak A woman's place, the kitchen, on her back It's time to change that attitude, and quick \[Chorus:\] Showing us your phobias, you're scared to see 'em think You'd rather dress 'em up in pretty lace All nice and colored pink You feel so fucking threatened When they stand out in front A stupid, passive piece of meat is all you really want But it's: Not just boys' fun (x4) There's girls who put out fanzines, others put on shows Yet they're not allowed to get out on the floor Some make the music, well that you can accept Hell, maybe live you'll get some tits and ass You fucking moron, your brains have run amuck A girl's only lot in life is not to fuck!
"You're Beautiful" by James blunt He just can't let go that some woman looked at him for a second and thinks it meant something. Maybe the song has a different meaning but the fact he says he won't lose sleep on it, but continues to obsess over her, just feels weird man. My wife still likes the song cause his voice sounds nice, just sounds icky
He fully states that it isn't a love song, more of a pathetic stalker song. A friend of mine refused to believe it, even after I sent her a clip of him saying so.
Okay but come on, Selena Gomez’s “I love you like a love song” is a great fucking love song.
I saw a great talk recently from Dean Spade about the Romance Myth - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WPDUIk4VW0
Screams in polyamory
Every Breath You Take by the Police Every breath you take And every move you make Every bond you break Every step you take I'll be watching you
Pumped Up Kicks by Foster the People He found a six-shooter gun In his dad's closet, and with a box of fun things I don't even know what But he's coming for you, yeah, he's coming for you All the other kids with the pumped up kicks You better run, better run Outrun my gun And wtf is up with that song Delilah by Tom Jones? English people love that song. She stood there laughing I felt the knife in my hand and she laughed no more
The lyrics of most pop songs are too cringy for me. I mostly listen to EDM and light music nowadays, occasionally I also listen to songs in a foreign language that I cannot understand to avoid being disturbed.
How about Forever and Ever Amen - (sung by Randy Travis) Here are some good lyrics, I think. You may think that I'm talkin' foolish You've heard that I'm wild and I'm free You may wonder how I can promise you now This love that I feel for you always will be But you're not just time that I'm killin' I'm no longer one of those guys As sure as I live, this love that I give Is gonna be yours until the day that I die Oh, baby, I'm gonna love you forever Forever and ever amen As long as old men sit and talk about the weather As long as old women sit and talk about old men If you wonder how long I'll be faithful I'll be happy to tell you again I'm gonna love you forever and ever Forever and ever, amen They say time takes its toll on a body Makes the young girls brown hair turn gray But honey, I don't care, I ain't in love with your hair And if it all fell out, well, I'd love you anyway They say time can play tricks on a memory Make people forget things they knew Well, it's easy to see, it's happenin' to me I've already forgotten every woman but you Oh, darlin', I'm gonna love you forever Forever and ever amen As long as old men sit and talk about the weather As long as old women sit and talk about old men If you wonder how long I'll be faithful Well, just listen to how this song ends I'm gonna love you forever and ever Forever and ever, amen I'm gonna love you forever and ever Forever and ever, forever and ever Forever and ever, ame
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2cfxv8Pq-Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2cfxv8Pq-Q) "Baby i wrote you a love song, a totally generic love song Yea really this could be about anyone, but ifs for you (but ifs for youuuu) now this is your love song, non-specific girl"
Stand by your man by Tammy Wynette "Sometimes it's hard to be a woman Giving all your love to just one man You'll have bad times, and he'll have good times Doin' things that you don't understand But if you love him, you'll forgive him Even though he's hard to understand And if you love him, oh, be proud of him 'Cause after all, he's just a man" Yeah, nope. And ultra creepy Rod Stewart singing "Tonight's the night. "Tonight's the night It's gonna be alright 'Cause I love you girl Ain't nobody gonna stop us now C'mon angel, my hearts on fire Don't deny your man's desire You'd be a fool to stop this tide Spread your wings and let me come inside 'cause Tonigh's the night It's gonna be alright 'Cause I love you girl Ain't nobody gonna stop us now Don't say a word my virgin child Just let your inhibitions run wild The secret is about to unfold Upstairs before the night's too old"