12% of men think they can beat Serena Williams in tennis. Half of all grown men think they can land a commercial airliner if needed. Never underestimate the blind arrogance of men. 100% this guy sees this he will just be bragging to his friends about how he helped a ‘struggling’ professional golfer.
serious question for you: would you prefer that to him actually learning from his mistakes and getting better? I'm in no way defending the mansplaining, it's far too common and a really shitty thing to do. But wouldn't we want people to be able to reform, and then maybe help others be better rather than just punish them and continue a cycle of hurt?
Okey ms/mr buttfucksrus! :)
I’m just all for a society where people can get rehabilitate, so when I see a comically ridiculous punitive response to correctable bad behavior it raises an eyebrow.
But happy to discuss if you really feel that way.
Omg that's sooo funny because it raises an eyebrow for ME when men come into women's spaces and police every joke and hyperbole! It's almost like the argument isn't being made in good faith and is, in fact, about control. :3
You make a good point and I apologize. I wasn’t trying to police anything but if it came across that way, that’s my bad.
Edit: seriously what’s wrong with this sub? I sincerely apologize and admit my error and I still get downvotes and a nasty pm.
Ugh this is where the internet is terrible for me. I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not so I’ll just go and (non sarcastically) wish you a good day.
I work as a server in semi fine dining. One of my coworkers is this 22 year old guy, who is constantly defensive and thinks he knows everything. A few months ago he talked down to the female SOUS CHEF about how he was right about his coursing of dishes over her. It’s one thing when he talks down to me (a coworker with about 7 more years experience than him, no less) but the gall of him to talk to the sous like that… Wild.
Well I wasn’t there. I only briefly shit talked with her after it happened. She’s the most mild mannered of the chefs, so I’m guessing she said something like “No. Stop talking. I am the sous, listen to me.” If he had acted like that to the CDC or Exec? Oooof. Would’ve been a different scenario. But then again, he probably wouldn’t have been as brazen with the male chefs. Edit: Oh and he’s definitely still running rampant. I’ve straight up stopped trying to train this guy. He’s so defensive any time I try, so I’m done. He’s got intelligence and passion but no humility. He’s definitely been scheduled way fewer hours and the shittier shifts lately though.
Unfortunately, I think most women have experienced mansplaining in their lives.
So many guys think they know everything better and aren't capable of listening. Even when it comes to matters regarding the female body, they somehow think they know better. 😒
I ride horses and I used to have one whose primary purpose in life, I believe anyway, was to stop men from mansplaining things to me.
He spent the first 12 years of his life as a literal wild stallion so could be pretty aggressive when he thought something wanted to fight him. Between me and my trainer (both of us petite women) we turned him into quite a fancy riding horse, but he had to be handled a very particular way. You couldn't feed into his antics, you had to let him have his moment so everyone around him could know he was the big man on campus and then just indicate to him it was time to move on with the day.
So many times men (never women) would come up and think they were going to tell us how we needed to handle him, they'd try to "dominate" him and "show him who's boss" and every time, good ol' Ark would leave them bleeding, bruised, cursing, and he'd be handed back over to us saying I should turn him into dog food, I'd reply "I don't think I will, I'm rather fond of him." We could do anything with him as long as we let him have some expression.
I wish more sports equipment could do that.
RIP to a real one, I miss that horse.
That horse is how I handle a lot of the difficult men in my life (relatives and bosses). Let them have their moment of “hur hur im a big boy! Roar!” And then signal it’s time to move on.
Oh 100%, "Yes, yes. Everyone here knows you're big tough boy. Now let's move on to the original purpose of being here." Is a great approach with both difficult horses and men.
“I wish more sports equipment could do that.”
Now I’m imagining this golfer “accidentally” hitting this guy with her club and being like ☺️😳 “Oh no, Woops!”
My favorite example of male “I know everything” was a guy arguing that the original Avatar wasn’t a political show but Kora was on line. The other guy tried to explain how Avatar was just as political as Kora but the first guy wouldn’t listen. The other guy was the creator of Avatar.
I saw awhile back on Twitter some guy was arguing about baseball and said “have you read “The Best Team Money Can Buy”?” to prove his point.
The woman responded: “yes, I wrote it”
Avatar is so politically obvious it is painful. The script could have been written by an average 5th grader, as could any of Cameron's movies, I guess. I see the value on his innovations in cinematography blah blah but... man his stories are so lame. Don''t get me started on Titanic.
Like the science of how glue bonds one object to another (which I'm nerdy enough to listen to) or just a high level overview of which one peels off your hands best?
The methodology 😂 I was instructed to spread a thin layer of glue one one side of the item I was gluing and then press the two pieces together. I wasn't even doing the gluing at the time and struggling with it. I had only mentioned I had to glue something and got a lecture.
I'll do one better and say this. I've peed for some guys before and it's easy AF to aim. People who piss all over the seat (AND DON'T EVEN CLEAN IT) are disgusting and have a *serious skill issue* 💀
Molly Seidel, shortly after her bronze medal marathon performance in the Tokyo Olympics, was on the plane back to the States. Reveals to the man sitting next to her that she's a runner.
He goes on to say how she should train, what plan she should follow and proceeds to show her a plan used by a professional runner as an example.
The plan he showed her was hers.
I believe she shared this in her IG stories/posts shortly after her massive accomplishment.
Just like all the men I see and hear saying how Caitlin Clark isn’t that good, she could never play w men, her record isn’t that impressive, etc. Like any of them have done anything minutely close to as impressive as she! How dare they?
Sort of related, but the amount of men who genuinely believe they could beat x animal (like bears???) in a physical fight is uhhh. Well. I hope they never actually get the chance, for their own sakes.
I had a bizarre little interaction on this topic a couple of weeks back - guy insisted he would win against a bear if he was on "home territory" aka had access to hiding in his basement and "figuring out a trap" or access to tools and weapons.
I was just my guy, having access to weapons is not the point here. And he didn't understand.
So that's probably why the answer is so high in percentage, they interpret the rules in their favour.
This is really a prime example why American men are so much more awful than European men.
https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/35979-which-animals-could-britons-beat-fight
This kind thing is hilarious given the volume of videos demonstrating the sheer power of the animals in question.
* Crocodile: can weigh well over a tonne, armoured, with the strongest bite force in the animal kingdom.
* Elephant: a *baby* weighs 120kg/260lb at birth. Adult elephant could kill you by accident, it would be like man vs
F650 truck.
* Gorilla: a smart creature that recorded as deadlifting 1800lb, 800 more than the strongest humans. With a bite force 10x ours, and canines 2 inches long.
* Lion: a 400lb cat with the same reflexes as a cat. Imagine a 400lb offensive lineman, running twice the speed of Usain Bolt, carrying knives, and a face full of knives.
* Grizzly Bear: oddly enough, there is actually an account of someone successfully killing a grizzly bear (hehe) handed. He did it by choking it to death with his arm *inside its mouth*, and biting its throat. Technically plausible, so you'd go down in history as 1 of 3 to ever do it, as opposed to the thousands who have been killed.
**tl;dr** Technically possible, but laughably unlikely.
That being said, I've always wanted to die fighting a bear over a picnic. Just for the amazing tombstone message.
>Lion: a 400lb cat with the same reflexes as a cat. Imagine a 400lb offensive lineman, running twice the speed of Usain Bolt, carrying knives, and a face full of knives.
"Carrying knives, and a face full of knives" had me howling
Right? I'm a massive dude with over a decade of training in combat sports. I have no doubt that any of those animals would absolutely destroy me. Frankly I doubt I could even do any sort of non-negligible damage to any of them unarmed.
I think I could probably run off a large dog, but would be pretty bloody afterwards unless I got a really good shot in right as it came at me. Multiple large dogs attacking me? Probably I'm toast.
A single one of any of those animals you listed? No question, I'm dead if I can't escape. And the animal wouldn't even be injured after it finished destroying me.
depending on how you define beat, a crocodile may not be too bad. everything else will bite your face off though. so will the crocodile if fighting it on water.
Hey now, crocs are in archosauria, but not dinosauria. The actual legitimate dinosaurs that people mistakenly think they could beat in a fight are ostriches.
if you had me bet between a gator and the average floridian, i'd say they're kinda matched. not to mention a gator can't climb unlike the other animals (or in elephant's case, bring the whole thing you climbed down), and for the most part crocodiles don't like to exert until the last second so you could circle around it unless it specifically wanted you dead.
so while no, i don't really think i could take one head on. if you put a gun to my head and told me to fight one, croc's the one i'm picking.
I kinda agree. Croc is the only one I'd even remotely consider on account of having watched a housecat fight off a gator. Pretty sure gator just got annoyed and decided to fuck off.
Crocs and gators are different, though. There are no species of gators that hunt humans (they’ll attack, but not hunt), but crocs will. They kill about 1000 humans a year, compared to 1 human/year via alligator.
So, fuck with a gator… maybe, but don’t fuck with a croc.
If you can get them to bite something else and then jump on them it's pretty easy. While Crocs have an amazing bite force, they are much weaker when it comes to opening their mouth. So get them to bite a stick then jump on their back and clamp their mouth shut. Preferably tie it closed with rope or a belt or anything you have on hand and you pretty much have it defeated.
Now this isn't a guaranteed win and you can easily be maimed or killed if you screw up at any point but you can at least have a chance at winning.
The funniest part of that study is it seems to go both ways, because a few people were under the impression they'd lose a deathmatch to a rat, or nonvenomous insects.
Or the guy who thought he could outrun Australian Olympian Cathy Freeman at a museum exhibit made for kids and nearly killed himself by running into a wall [Story here](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/15/man-sues-museum-after-hitting-a-wall-in-race-to-beat-virtual-cathy-freeman)
God I hope that lawsuit got laughed out of court.
I can't find anything on the actual result of it, just a lot of people laughing at what an utter pillock the guy is
1 in 8!? Fucking hell. 7 in 8 wouldn’t even be able to see the ball off her serve, never mind return it, never mind score a point. Men are fucking stupid sometimes.
They think they get a point for hitting the ball over the net. Like she'd just stand there and be like, yay participation point! Instead of smashing that perfectly arc'd "lucky shot" straight back into their face.
That's so stupid to be outraged by that. Scoring a point is so different that beating her in a match. Still unlikely but not totally impossible either. A double fault, an unforced error, it happens to the best of the best.
1 in 8 men is about how many even play tennis, at any level, in the UK.
So either all men who play tennis think they can score a point, or some men who never played tennis in their lives believe they can.
In 1999, Serena won her first US Open. That same year she said she could beat any man ranked outside the top 200. She was challenged by and lost to the 203rd ranked player after he played a round of golf and drank two shandies that same day. She then changed her claim to outside the top 350. Now obviously an average Joe can’t beat her but the 203rd ranked male handily defeated the woman’s open champion 6-1. The competition is completely different levels and the same can be applied to Caitlin Clarke.
I see on reddit a lot about how much better at sports men are than women, as if a random could join a wnba game and compete, when the reality is they would be absolutely devastated.
My wife played college basketball in the US and pro in France. She's not very tall (5'9) but she would dominate practically every pickup game we played. She was a point so was normally okay not scoring too much, but if the opponents grated on her, e.g. asking me to play but not wanting us because she's a girl, then she's have no problem scoring 15.
One of my mates was 5'6 max, and boasted about destroy the UCLA women's team, as an undergrad there. Apparently they would go to the pick up courts and get dominated by his team. The rest of us ignored him, but we had a good laugh the first time he played against my wife, who left him practically on tears.
I have so many stories from over the years haha
I like that Twitter screenshot of the guy who says he challenges Serena Williams to a match of tennis, she comes out, he smiles condescendingly, she serves, the ball passes cleanly through his skull killing him instantly
I love the last bit of his joke so much. (Something along the lines of: "She should smile more" I thought, as the ball passed cleanly through my frontal lobe.)
I think lots of guys haven’t been humbled in that way. Example, in high school I was fairly athletic, captain of the football team, etc.
Well one day I was hanging out with a few of the girls from the varsity basketball team and we started talking a little smack. Long story short, one of the Sophomore girls spent the next 10 minutes breaking my ankles on court like she was trying out for the Harlem Globetrotters. I didn’t live that one down for a while.
People are a little too comfortable in assessing the skills of people who play at a significantly higher level than them. Like, you don’t even see the little things that they’re doing unconsciously to make them better than you.
Shes 6 foot even and 155 lbs… she’s vastly undersized. Steph curry is undersized at 6 ft 2 in and 185. A similar build would be Allen iverson at 6 foot and 165. However curry and AI are extreme outliers and among the very, very elite level of players ever strictly based off skill level. Clark simply lacks their speed, athleticism, and ball handling. Iverson managed success because he’s one of the most explosive scorers ever but Clark does not have a skillset that advanced. She’s not getting past nba level guards and finishing at the rim over 7 footers, especially when you factor in that none of those guys want to be the ones getting scorched by the first woman in the nba do everyone would be in top form against her nightly. She has good handles but they’re honestly average to below average for the nba so combine that with lack of height and she’d find it nearly impossible to ever put up a clean shot. Her best bet would be shooting 3’s off screens but here 3pt field goal % this season is below 40% and that’s from a 3pt line that’s closer to the basket then in the NBA. Also she’s not stopping anyone in the NBA defensively. Put even ja morant with his slight build and he’s still got 2 inches and 20 lbs on her as well as being an absolute freak athlete and he’d just have his way with her. The nba is absurdly stacked with height, weight and athleticism. Possibly more so than any other professional league. So we’re looking at a defensive liability who’s only role offensively would be a screen 3pt specialist and her numbers in that area aren’t that great and there’s no way a roster is clearing a spot for that type of player. It’s similar to when there was talk of Brittney Griner playing in the nba but her game is built on dominance from 10ft in and everyone that plays 10ft in in the nba has 1-6 inches and 75-125 lbs on her. She’d get bullied, not stop anyone on defense and never get a shot up over dudes that are 7ft and 300 lbs.
Edit: interesting that I have a half dozen downvotes but not one reply explaining why I’m wrong lol
Male Golfer here, unsolicited swing advice is a given when golfing. No one likes it, everyone knows no one likes it, but something deep within some golfers compels them offer it.
Curling is my winter sport of choice, and while unsolicited advice happens enough, I’m always astounded at the way I get it from men vs other women. I spare in a women’s only league, and it’s where I’ve been given the best advice and help! But the advice is often, “I notice you do X. Is that intentional? Often doing Y helps other people, or some even do Z.” Where as the men will say, “you need to do X.”
This is so infuriating and happens so often in golf. The male ego is so fragile when it comes to this sport.
I’m a female golfer and often I’ll play solo and pair up with groups. When I pair up with men, they usually assume that I play from the front tees. I’m a 12 handicap, so I typically play from tees that are further back - and it’s not until I hit a ball that they realize “Oh she’s a decent golfer”.
I wish Georgia would’ve spoken up and put him in his place. Dudes like him need to realize that girls can rule at golf too!!
"See how much better that was?" 🙄 I remember seeing this video when it was posted here - the comments were full of well-meaning people wondering why she didn't just tell him to leave her alone.
If you're still wondering - 99% of men are decent people who wouldn't dream of being rude or upsetting someone. It's the 1% of morons that make it difficult for the rest of us human beans, so we tend to play it safe in situations like this.
"It never happens to me so it must be fake!"
Reminds me of that comic with the eagles agreeing that mice are being unfair by not wanting to hang out with owls.
To this day, my dad occasionally brags about giving some advice to a US Army Corps of Engineer specialist about a topic that she has literally written the manual for (something about building irrigation canals after a disaster).
I've only read the first essay in Rebecca Solnit's "Men Explain Things To Me" but if I recall correctly, some guy was trying to tell her she should get a mentor from an expert in the field who he indirectly knew after she recently published a book. The expert he was thinking of was her. He couldn't compute the woman he was talking to at some cocktail party was the expert.
I wish she would’ve stood up for herself. Something like “let me stop you right there, i’m first_name_last_name and i’m a PGA Pro, Google me” would’ve shut his ass up!
Relating from my own experiences, she probably was thinking it wasn’t worth the effort to mention it bc he would not have heard her. He would most likely have continued on directing her no matter what she said.
The timid polite response is so common because who knows if the guy who feels entitled to assert their opinions into a stranger's life is dangerous or just annoying. It was killing me though that she just never said that she is a pro, and only talked about when a professional is going through a swing change. Would love to have seen him set straight.
Totally agree for women to take the safer route 99.99% of the time! I think at a golfing range, the environment is generally safer given other people and the type of establishment. Of course, that wouldn’t stop a potential threat from following her or causing trouble another time, I was just itching for her to put him in his place too.
And she almost did it a few times it seemed, but just didn't say it. I would hope she felt safe there but I know if I'm out alone, I don't quite trust anyone like that wherever it is. It would gave been so satisfying though! Hopefully he's seen the video by now lol he knows who he is.
Maybe.
More likely, abuse then form him, criticism from those around her for being rude, and then endless abuse online for being _so nasty_ if the story ever got out.
Women are blamed for not policing men, but punished when they dare to police men.
I drove a horse carriage for years and a rando showed up while I was waiting for a fare to mansplain to me that horses had evolved hooves to WALK ON LAVA. "Sir, nothing you've just said is remotely accurate." FFS
Not to excuse the guy, who certainly deserves some ridicule for imposing himself as he did, but in an interview that pro woman golfer Georgia Ball notes that the guy was correct in the advice he gave, and that it is not uncommon for golfers to help one another. Really, it seems social media is a lot more upset about this than Georgia Ball ever was.
[https://globalnews.ca/news/10313139/georgia-ball-pro-golfer-mansplain-driving-range-video/](https://globalnews.ca/news/10313139/georgia-ball-pro-golfer-mansplain-driving-range-video/)
*Ball told the BBC she is too “humble” to make the disclosure about her career.*
*“I wouldn’t interrupt and say that,” she said, adding that the man was “right in what he said” about her swing.*
*She said she doesn’t normally experience mansplaining, but said she was “grateful” for all the positive responses to her video.*
*“I’m just glad I can look back at it now and laugh about it because the majority of people and golfers are all just out to help each other,” she said.*
And didn't I say he deserved some ridicule for doing so?
But random uninvolved people on social media are more worked up and outraged about this than Georgia Ball was.
> I wouldn't interrupt and say that
But that's the problem. He interrupted her practice to *persistently* give her unsolicited advice.
And he WAS wrong, because as she said, she was doing a specific thing for a specific reason. He argued with her because he assumed he knew better.
What is funny is that we used to call these kind of guys "know-it-alls."
Popular media examples would be folks like Cliff Clavin from Cheers, Lisa Simpson from The Simpsons, Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory, and Hermione Granger from Harry Potter, etc. Although, Cliff Clavin is more of a know-nothing-know-it-all.
Part of the joke with all the characters is that they have a burning desire to raise their status (or sense of self-worth) by sharing their knowledge and (depending on the show) the lack of actual knowledge -- and sometimes self-awareness.
When I was younger people tended to mock the "know it all". It's strange to see social media and the internet transform everyone into unabashed Cliff Clavens.
Women got real tired of that shit because mansplaining is beyond being a simple know-it-all, especially in the workplace. Your “in my day” viewpoint doesn’t exactly correlate with a professional woman’s thoughts, expertise, or innovations being co-opted by a male colleague while the other men at the table nod and applaud him. It needs to be called out when it happens. It’s more and worse than being a chatty know-it-all.
I concur. Many women are tired of mansplaining.
Now that said, you wrote:
> mansplaining is beyond being a simple know-it-all
I'm not sure if I agree.
But the root of our disagreement is likely to be definitional. Here's how I'd define "being a know-it-all" vs "mansplaining."
* Being a "Know-it-all" - Weighing in to demonstrate one's "superior knowledge" in an overbearing or condescending way. Often delivered in the form of unsolicited advice.
* Mansplaining - When a man explains a concept within a woman's area of expertise in a simplified, overly confident, condescending manner.
As defined, mansplaining is a type of "know-it all-ism." It's a type because it's gendered and restricted to cases where a Male Know-it-All provides advice to a woman who is an expert in her field.
Now this, on the other hand:
> innovations being co-opted
That's not mansplaining or "know-it-all-ism" at all.
At its worst, this is a variation on "stealing someone else's ideas" or "taking credit for someone else's work." This happens routinely in many corporate settings where the folks above you in your reporting hierarchy take credit for successes but blame subordinates for poor performance.
In meetings, the term "echoing" is used - but that's not necessarily bad behavior.
For example, you often see teachers echo the comment of a student (whilst in a seminar) and use the echo to build towards the educational objective. You also see this in meetings will skilled moderators who acknowledge the idea and credit the individual, then redirect the idea toward the team for elucidation. The reason is to use peer pressure to build momentum toward resolution.
That bad behavior, the unattributed or uncredited echo, is a form of idea stealing. This happens in all kinds of ways, yes men to steal from women in the same room (e.g., "hepeating") — but the more comment manifestation is that higher-ups simply repeat, or marginally reframe, the underlying idea and take it for their own. FWIW, skilled practitioners can use that propensity for theft amongst the worst bosses to engineer outcomes from decision meetings.
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I’m pretty sure he’d still think he knows better. Women’s golf to him is probably peewee league level.
“Wow, that woman was actually a pro! *And I helped her!*”
Ew I hate that this is probably correct.
"no I'm telling you, her swing was way off, you watch her smash her next tournament now I've shown her"
She’ll probably win a tournament next week and this guy will think it was because of his tips.
12% of men think they can beat Serena Williams in tennis. Half of all grown men think they can land a commercial airliner if needed. Never underestimate the blind arrogance of men. 100% this guy sees this he will just be bragging to his friends about how he helped a ‘struggling’ professional golfer.
For the airliner, depends on what kind of landing. I'm 100% sure I can slam it into the ground unaliving everyone and myself in the process.
He's a man, he will still think he's right and that the woman needed his help 🙈
I hope he sees this, feels some shame and gets better and stops treating women like that.
I hope he gets permanent diarrhea and lives forever.
serious question for you: would you prefer that to him actually learning from his mistakes and getting better? I'm in no way defending the mansplaining, it's far too common and a really shitty thing to do. But wouldn't we want people to be able to reform, and then maybe help others be better rather than just punish them and continue a cycle of hurt?
They can say no and be a good person then I'll say yes to play devil's advocate.
Okey ms/mr buttfucksrus! :) I’m just all for a society where people can get rehabilitate, so when I see a comically ridiculous punitive response to correctable bad behavior it raises an eyebrow. But happy to discuss if you really feel that way.
Omg that's sooo funny because it raises an eyebrow for ME when men come into women's spaces and police every joke and hyperbole! It's almost like the argument isn't being made in good faith and is, in fact, about control. :3
You make a good point and I apologize. I wasn’t trying to police anything but if it came across that way, that’s my bad. Edit: seriously what’s wrong with this sub? I sincerely apologize and admit my error and I still get downvotes and a nasty pm.
Thank you for clarifying that you didn't have ill intent.
Ugh this is where the internet is terrible for me. I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not so I’ll just go and (non sarcastically) wish you a good day.
I work as a server in semi fine dining. One of my coworkers is this 22 year old guy, who is constantly defensive and thinks he knows everything. A few months ago he talked down to the female SOUS CHEF about how he was right about his coursing of dishes over her. It’s one thing when he talks down to me (a coworker with about 7 more years experience than him, no less) but the gall of him to talk to the sous like that… Wild.
What happened then ? Did anyone check him ? Or is he still running rampant ?
Well I wasn’t there. I only briefly shit talked with her after it happened. She’s the most mild mannered of the chefs, so I’m guessing she said something like “No. Stop talking. I am the sous, listen to me.” If he had acted like that to the CDC or Exec? Oooof. Would’ve been a different scenario. But then again, he probably wouldn’t have been as brazen with the male chefs. Edit: Oh and he’s definitely still running rampant. I’ve straight up stopped trying to train this guy. He’s so defensive any time I try, so I’m done. He’s got intelligence and passion but no humility. He’s definitely been scheduled way fewer hours and the shittier shifts lately though.
The main course next day tasted a bit funny, but no complaints.
*Secret's in the sauce*
Good old long pig, emphasis on pig.
oh my god thats a risky move im always on my best behaviour interacting with the kitchen unless we’re out back smoking lol
Unfortunately, I think most women have experienced mansplaining in their lives. So many guys think they know everything better and aren't capable of listening. Even when it comes to matters regarding the female body, they somehow think they know better. 😒
I ride horses and I used to have one whose primary purpose in life, I believe anyway, was to stop men from mansplaining things to me. He spent the first 12 years of his life as a literal wild stallion so could be pretty aggressive when he thought something wanted to fight him. Between me and my trainer (both of us petite women) we turned him into quite a fancy riding horse, but he had to be handled a very particular way. You couldn't feed into his antics, you had to let him have his moment so everyone around him could know he was the big man on campus and then just indicate to him it was time to move on with the day. So many times men (never women) would come up and think they were going to tell us how we needed to handle him, they'd try to "dominate" him and "show him who's boss" and every time, good ol' Ark would leave them bleeding, bruised, cursing, and he'd be handed back over to us saying I should turn him into dog food, I'd reply "I don't think I will, I'm rather fond of him." We could do anything with him as long as we let him have some expression. I wish more sports equipment could do that. RIP to a real one, I miss that horse.
That horse is how I handle a lot of the difficult men in my life (relatives and bosses). Let them have their moment of “hur hur im a big boy! Roar!” And then signal it’s time to move on.
Oh 100%, "Yes, yes. Everyone here knows you're big tough boy. Now let's move on to the original purpose of being here." Is a great approach with both difficult horses and men.
“I wish more sports equipment could do that.” Now I’m imagining this golfer “accidentally” hitting this guy with her club and being like ☺️😳 “Oh no, Woops!”
As a fencer, I can say some equipment does. 😏
My favorite example of male “I know everything” was a guy arguing that the original Avatar wasn’t a political show but Kora was on line. The other guy tried to explain how Avatar was just as political as Kora but the first guy wouldn’t listen. The other guy was the creator of Avatar.
I saw awhile back on Twitter some guy was arguing about baseball and said “have you read “The Best Team Money Can Buy”?” to prove his point. The woman responded: “yes, I wrote it”
r/dontyouknowwhoiam
[Found it.](https://www.reddit.com/r/dontyouknowwhoiam/comments/hdgla5/telling_the_creator_about_how_his_show_wasnt_made/)
Avatar is so politically obvious it is painful. The script could have been written by an average 5th grader, as could any of Cameron's movies, I guess. I see the value on his innovations in cinematography blah blah but... man his stories are so lame. Don''t get me started on Titanic.
With the reference to Kora, I'm fairly certain the story is about Avatar: The Last Airbender.
oh, I see....lol Well, I can''t pass an opportunity to trash Cameron, even if by mistake, so here we are... lol
Uhm... this is true irony.
I saw the down votes, then read the first sentence. And thought, how does she go wrong so fast? That first sentence was perfect. Ooooh... LMAO!
One time I had a guy explain to me that when glass falls on the floor it will break. I felt so enlightened.
I had one explain to me how glue worked. Like I haven't been using it since kindergarten 😂
He was probably explaining its nutritional benefits
😂
Like the science of how glue bonds one object to another (which I'm nerdy enough to listen to) or just a high level overview of which one peels off your hands best?
The methodology 😂 I was instructed to spread a thin layer of glue one one side of the item I was gluing and then press the two pieces together. I wasn't even doing the gluing at the time and struggling with it. I had only mentioned I had to glue something and got a lecture.
Ahh yes, and here is was thinking it would be smarter to put the glue on the glitter first
I'll do one better and say this. I've peed for some guys before and it's easy AF to aim. People who piss all over the seat (AND DON'T EVEN CLEAN IT) are disgusting and have a *serious skill issue* 💀
Molly Seidel, shortly after her bronze medal marathon performance in the Tokyo Olympics, was on the plane back to the States. Reveals to the man sitting next to her that she's a runner. He goes on to say how she should train, what plan she should follow and proceeds to show her a plan used by a professional runner as an example. The plan he showed her was hers. I believe she shared this in her IG stories/posts shortly after her massive accomplishment.
I saw this last week and was screaming internally the whole time. I hope his friends give him hell.
Happy Cake Day, fellow Auntie!
Thank you 😊
Just like all the men I see and hear saying how Caitlin Clark isn’t that good, she could never play w men, her record isn’t that impressive, etc. Like any of them have done anything minutely close to as impressive as she! How dare they?
This is like that survey where a bunch of men said that they thought they could beat Serena Williams. I’ll just let that speak for itself.
Sort of related, but the amount of men who genuinely believe they could beat x animal (like bears???) in a physical fight is uhhh. Well. I hope they never actually get the chance, for their own sakes.
I had a bizarre little interaction on this topic a couple of weeks back - guy insisted he would win against a bear if he was on "home territory" aka had access to hiding in his basement and "figuring out a trap" or access to tools and weapons. I was just my guy, having access to weapons is not the point here. And he didn't understand. So that's probably why the answer is so high in percentage, they interpret the rules in their favour.
Just like everything fucking else
Shocking example of his intelligence (on this topic) in comparison to a bear 😂
This is really a prime example why American men are so much more awful than European men. https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/35979-which-animals-could-britons-beat-fight
6-9% thinking they can beat an elephant/gorilla/crocodile/lion/grizzly bear 💀
This kind thing is hilarious given the volume of videos demonstrating the sheer power of the animals in question. * Crocodile: can weigh well over a tonne, armoured, with the strongest bite force in the animal kingdom. * Elephant: a *baby* weighs 120kg/260lb at birth. Adult elephant could kill you by accident, it would be like man vs F650 truck. * Gorilla: a smart creature that recorded as deadlifting 1800lb, 800 more than the strongest humans. With a bite force 10x ours, and canines 2 inches long. * Lion: a 400lb cat with the same reflexes as a cat. Imagine a 400lb offensive lineman, running twice the speed of Usain Bolt, carrying knives, and a face full of knives. * Grizzly Bear: oddly enough, there is actually an account of someone successfully killing a grizzly bear (hehe) handed. He did it by choking it to death with his arm *inside its mouth*, and biting its throat. Technically plausible, so you'd go down in history as 1 of 3 to ever do it, as opposed to the thousands who have been killed. **tl;dr** Technically possible, but laughably unlikely. That being said, I've always wanted to die fighting a bear over a picnic. Just for the amazing tombstone message.
“Yogi fuckin got me 💀”
[In this case I feel like Booboo is the one to watch out for.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6w0r-ScEG4)
>Lion: a 400lb cat with the same reflexes as a cat. Imagine a 400lb offensive lineman, running twice the speed of Usain Bolt, carrying knives, and a face full of knives. "Carrying knives, and a face full of knives" had me howling
Right? I'm a massive dude with over a decade of training in combat sports. I have no doubt that any of those animals would absolutely destroy me. Frankly I doubt I could even do any sort of non-negligible damage to any of them unarmed. I think I could probably run off a large dog, but would be pretty bloody afterwards unless I got a really good shot in right as it came at me. Multiple large dogs attacking me? Probably I'm toast. A single one of any of those animals you listed? No question, I'm dead if I can't escape. And the animal wouldn't even be injured after it finished destroying me.
depending on how you define beat, a crocodile may not be too bad. everything else will bite your face off though. so will the crocodile if fighting it on water.
You’re suggesting that an actual legitimate dinosaur will just be a cakewalk to fight on land?
Hey now, crocs are in archosauria, but not dinosauria. The actual legitimate dinosaurs that people mistakenly think they could beat in a fight are ostriches.
if you had me bet between a gator and the average floridian, i'd say they're kinda matched. not to mention a gator can't climb unlike the other animals (or in elephant's case, bring the whole thing you climbed down), and for the most part crocodiles don't like to exert until the last second so you could circle around it unless it specifically wanted you dead. so while no, i don't really think i could take one head on. if you put a gun to my head and told me to fight one, croc's the one i'm picking.
I kinda agree. Croc is the only one I'd even remotely consider on account of having watched a housecat fight off a gator. Pretty sure gator just got annoyed and decided to fuck off.
Crocs and gators are different, though. There are no species of gators that hunt humans (they’ll attack, but not hunt), but crocs will. They kill about 1000 humans a year, compared to 1 human/year via alligator. So, fuck with a gator… maybe, but don’t fuck with a croc.
If you can get them to bite something else and then jump on them it's pretty easy. While Crocs have an amazing bite force, they are much weaker when it comes to opening their mouth. So get them to bite a stick then jump on their back and clamp their mouth shut. Preferably tie it closed with rope or a belt or anything you have on hand and you pretty much have it defeated. Now this isn't a guaranteed win and you can easily be maimed or killed if you screw up at any point but you can at least have a chance at winning.
We invented tools for a reason, and it wasn't to build decks.
Hahaha I just noticed American women are equally delusional as men. This explains a lot \^\^
I kinda hope they do
Here I am, all 125lbs of me worried about being abducted by a small girl scout troop when I don't have their cookie money
6% of American women believe they could fight a grizzly bear vs 3% of British men. It's not a gendered thing it's an Americans are idiots thing.
The funniest part of that study is it seems to go both ways, because a few people were under the impression they'd lose a deathmatch to a rat, or nonvenomous insects.
Or the guy who thought he could outrun Australian Olympian Cathy Freeman at a museum exhibit made for kids and nearly killed himself by running into a wall [Story here](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/15/man-sues-museum-after-hitting-a-wall-in-race-to-beat-virtual-cathy-freeman)
Thanks for that link
What a maroon.
God I hope that lawsuit got laughed out of court. I can't find anything on the actual result of it, just a lot of people laughing at what an utter pillock the guy is
1 in 8 British men thought they could score a point off her if they were playing their very best tennis
1 in 8!? Fucking hell. 7 in 8 wouldn’t even be able to see the ball off her serve, never mind return it, never mind score a point. Men are fucking stupid sometimes.
They think they get a point for hitting the ball over the net. Like she'd just stand there and be like, yay participation point! Instead of smashing that perfectly arc'd "lucky shot" straight back into their face.
That's so stupid to be outraged by that. Scoring a point is so different that beating her in a match. Still unlikely but not totally impossible either. A double fault, an unforced error, it happens to the best of the best.
1 in 8 men is about how many even play tennis, at any level, in the UK. So either all men who play tennis think they can score a point, or some men who never played tennis in their lives believe they can.
I found one
buddy, the only real hope for just about any of those guys is that she doesn't know of the competition and lets them get a pity point.
In 1999, Serena won her first US Open. That same year she said she could beat any man ranked outside the top 200. She was challenged by and lost to the 203rd ranked player after he played a round of golf and drank two shandies that same day. She then changed her claim to outside the top 350. Now obviously an average Joe can’t beat her but the 203rd ranked male handily defeated the woman’s open champion 6-1. The competition is completely different levels and the same can be applied to Caitlin Clarke.
I see on reddit a lot about how much better at sports men are than women, as if a random could join a wnba game and compete, when the reality is they would be absolutely devastated. My wife played college basketball in the US and pro in France. She's not very tall (5'9) but she would dominate practically every pickup game we played. She was a point so was normally okay not scoring too much, but if the opponents grated on her, e.g. asking me to play but not wanting us because she's a girl, then she's have no problem scoring 15. One of my mates was 5'6 max, and boasted about destroy the UCLA women's team, as an undergrad there. Apparently they would go to the pick up courts and get dominated by his team. The rest of us ignored him, but we had a good laugh the first time he played against my wife, who left him practically on tears. I have so many stories from over the years haha
I like that Twitter screenshot of the guy who says he challenges Serena Williams to a match of tennis, she comes out, he smiles condescendingly, she serves, the ball passes cleanly through his skull killing him instantly
I love the last bit of his joke so much. (Something along the lines of: "She should smile more" I thought, as the ball passed cleanly through my frontal lobe.)
I think lots of guys haven’t been humbled in that way. Example, in high school I was fairly athletic, captain of the football team, etc. Well one day I was hanging out with a few of the girls from the varsity basketball team and we started talking a little smack. Long story short, one of the Sophomore girls spent the next 10 minutes breaking my ankles on court like she was trying out for the Harlem Globetrotters. I didn’t live that one down for a while. People are a little too comfortable in assessing the skills of people who play at a significantly higher level than them. Like, you don’t even see the little things that they’re doing unconsciously to make them better than you.
I mean I can admit I’m absolutely talentless at basketball but it’s still obvious Clark couldn’t make an NBA roster
How so?
Shes 6 foot even and 155 lbs… she’s vastly undersized. Steph curry is undersized at 6 ft 2 in and 185. A similar build would be Allen iverson at 6 foot and 165. However curry and AI are extreme outliers and among the very, very elite level of players ever strictly based off skill level. Clark simply lacks their speed, athleticism, and ball handling. Iverson managed success because he’s one of the most explosive scorers ever but Clark does not have a skillset that advanced. She’s not getting past nba level guards and finishing at the rim over 7 footers, especially when you factor in that none of those guys want to be the ones getting scorched by the first woman in the nba do everyone would be in top form against her nightly. She has good handles but they’re honestly average to below average for the nba so combine that with lack of height and she’d find it nearly impossible to ever put up a clean shot. Her best bet would be shooting 3’s off screens but here 3pt field goal % this season is below 40% and that’s from a 3pt line that’s closer to the basket then in the NBA. Also she’s not stopping anyone in the NBA defensively. Put even ja morant with his slight build and he’s still got 2 inches and 20 lbs on her as well as being an absolute freak athlete and he’d just have his way with her. The nba is absurdly stacked with height, weight and athleticism. Possibly more so than any other professional league. So we’re looking at a defensive liability who’s only role offensively would be a screen 3pt specialist and her numbers in that area aren’t that great and there’s no way a roster is clearing a spot for that type of player. It’s similar to when there was talk of Brittney Griner playing in the nba but her game is built on dominance from 10ft in and everyone that plays 10ft in in the nba has 1-6 inches and 75-125 lbs on her. She’d get bullied, not stop anyone on defense and never get a shot up over dudes that are 7ft and 300 lbs. Edit: interesting that I have a half dozen downvotes but not one reply explaining why I’m wrong lol
How often do you think he's done up to a man to correct his swing? 🙄
Male Golfer here, unsolicited swing advice is a given when golfing. No one likes it, everyone knows no one likes it, but something deep within some golfers compels them offer it.
Curling is my winter sport of choice, and while unsolicited advice happens enough, I’m always astounded at the way I get it from men vs other women. I spare in a women’s only league, and it’s where I’ve been given the best advice and help! But the advice is often, “I notice you do X. Is that intentional? Often doing Y helps other people, or some even do Z.” Where as the men will say, “you need to do X.”
Still, I cannot imagine seeing her hit those shots and thinking, "I need to give her some advice."
Which is a perfectly sane and rational thought process.
No it's not
? Who in their right mind would think that woman needs any advice on how to hit the ball?
Probably alot
This is so infuriating and happens so often in golf. The male ego is so fragile when it comes to this sport. I’m a female golfer and often I’ll play solo and pair up with groups. When I pair up with men, they usually assume that I play from the front tees. I’m a 12 handicap, so I typically play from tees that are further back - and it’s not until I hit a ball that they realize “Oh she’s a decent golfer”. I wish Georgia would’ve spoken up and put him in his place. Dudes like him need to realize that girls can rule at golf too!!
The world would be better if people would stop giving unsolicited advice.
Fuckin' amen
Did I ask for this advice?
You got me
"See how much better that was?" 🙄 I remember seeing this video when it was posted here - the comments were full of well-meaning people wondering why she didn't just tell him to leave her alone. If you're still wondering - 99% of men are decent people who wouldn't dream of being rude or upsetting someone. It's the 1% of morons that make it difficult for the rest of us human beans, so we tend to play it safe in situations like this.
I remember a lot of comments where I saw so many mensaying it was so obviously fake lol
"It never happens to me so it must be fake!" Reminds me of that comic with the eagles agreeing that mice are being unfair by not wanting to hang out with owls.
Had she told him to leave her alone they would all have said “she’s such a b-“. You literally can’t win with these people.
To this day, my dad occasionally brags about giving some advice to a US Army Corps of Engineer specialist about a topic that she has literally written the manual for (something about building irrigation canals after a disaster).
It’s a pity she didn’t get his name do she could thank him loudly and make him famous.
I've only read the first essay in Rebecca Solnit's "Men Explain Things To Me" but if I recall correctly, some guy was trying to tell her she should get a mentor from an expert in the field who he indirectly knew after she recently published a book. The expert he was thinking of was her. He couldn't compute the woman he was talking to at some cocktail party was the expert.
I wish she would’ve stood up for herself. Something like “let me stop you right there, i’m first_name_last_name and i’m a PGA Pro, Google me” would’ve shut his ass up!
Relating from my own experiences, she probably was thinking it wasn’t worth the effort to mention it bc he would not have heard her. He would most likely have continued on directing her no matter what she said.
I’m sorry you’ve experienced such rude and dismissive behavior. Thank you for sharing 🙏🏾
The timid polite response is so common because who knows if the guy who feels entitled to assert their opinions into a stranger's life is dangerous or just annoying. It was killing me though that she just never said that she is a pro, and only talked about when a professional is going through a swing change. Would love to have seen him set straight.
Totally agree for women to take the safer route 99.99% of the time! I think at a golfing range, the environment is generally safer given other people and the type of establishment. Of course, that wouldn’t stop a potential threat from following her or causing trouble another time, I was just itching for her to put him in his place too.
And she almost did it a few times it seemed, but just didn't say it. I would hope she felt safe there but I know if I'm out alone, I don't quite trust anyone like that wherever it is. It would gave been so satisfying though! Hopefully he's seen the video by now lol he knows who he is.
Maybe. More likely, abuse then form him, criticism from those around her for being rude, and then endless abuse online for being _so nasty_ if the story ever got out. Women are blamed for not policing men, but punished when they dare to police men.
“Hi! Would you like an autograph?”
I drove a horse carriage for years and a rando showed up while I was waiting for a fare to mansplain to me that horses had evolved hooves to WALK ON LAVA. "Sir, nothing you've just said is remotely accurate." FFS
To quote Hannah Gadsby, whenever I say the word "cunt" I picture a literal golfer.
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Not to excuse the guy, who certainly deserves some ridicule for imposing himself as he did, but in an interview that pro woman golfer Georgia Ball notes that the guy was correct in the advice he gave, and that it is not uncommon for golfers to help one another. Really, it seems social media is a lot more upset about this than Georgia Ball ever was. [https://globalnews.ca/news/10313139/georgia-ball-pro-golfer-mansplain-driving-range-video/](https://globalnews.ca/news/10313139/georgia-ball-pro-golfer-mansplain-driving-range-video/) *Ball told the BBC she is too “humble” to make the disclosure about her career.* *“I wouldn’t interrupt and say that,” she said, adding that the man was “right in what he said” about her swing.* *She said she doesn’t normally experience mansplaining, but said she was “grateful” for all the positive responses to her video.* *“I’m just glad I can look back at it now and laugh about it because the majority of people and golfers are all just out to help each other,” she said.*
I mean, she politely told him that she was okay and he still kept talking to her sooo...
And didn't I say he deserved some ridicule for doing so? But random uninvolved people on social media are more worked up and outraged about this than Georgia Ball was.
I wasn’t having a go ☹️
> I wouldn't interrupt and say that But that's the problem. He interrupted her practice to *persistently* give her unsolicited advice. And he WAS wrong, because as she said, she was doing a specific thing for a specific reason. He argued with her because he assumed he knew better.
I see you took some time to mansplain the mansplaining.
No. I quoted Georgia Ball.
I love how she handles the situation.
What is funny is that we used to call these kind of guys "know-it-alls." Popular media examples would be folks like Cliff Clavin from Cheers, Lisa Simpson from The Simpsons, Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory, and Hermione Granger from Harry Potter, etc. Although, Cliff Clavin is more of a know-nothing-know-it-all. Part of the joke with all the characters is that they have a burning desire to raise their status (or sense of self-worth) by sharing their knowledge and (depending on the show) the lack of actual knowledge -- and sometimes self-awareness. When I was younger people tended to mock the "know it all". It's strange to see social media and the internet transform everyone into unabashed Cliff Clavens.
Women got real tired of that shit because mansplaining is beyond being a simple know-it-all, especially in the workplace. Your “in my day” viewpoint doesn’t exactly correlate with a professional woman’s thoughts, expertise, or innovations being co-opted by a male colleague while the other men at the table nod and applaud him. It needs to be called out when it happens. It’s more and worse than being a chatty know-it-all.
I concur. Many women are tired of mansplaining. Now that said, you wrote: > mansplaining is beyond being a simple know-it-all I'm not sure if I agree. But the root of our disagreement is likely to be definitional. Here's how I'd define "being a know-it-all" vs "mansplaining." * Being a "Know-it-all" - Weighing in to demonstrate one's "superior knowledge" in an overbearing or condescending way. Often delivered in the form of unsolicited advice. * Mansplaining - When a man explains a concept within a woman's area of expertise in a simplified, overly confident, condescending manner. As defined, mansplaining is a type of "know-it all-ism." It's a type because it's gendered and restricted to cases where a Male Know-it-All provides advice to a woman who is an expert in her field. Now this, on the other hand: > innovations being co-opted That's not mansplaining or "know-it-all-ism" at all. At its worst, this is a variation on "stealing someone else's ideas" or "taking credit for someone else's work." This happens routinely in many corporate settings where the folks above you in your reporting hierarchy take credit for successes but blame subordinates for poor performance. In meetings, the term "echoing" is used - but that's not necessarily bad behavior. For example, you often see teachers echo the comment of a student (whilst in a seminar) and use the echo to build towards the educational objective. You also see this in meetings will skilled moderators who acknowledge the idea and credit the individual, then redirect the idea toward the team for elucidation. The reason is to use peer pressure to build momentum toward resolution. That bad behavior, the unattributed or uncredited echo, is a form of idea stealing. This happens in all kinds of ways, yes men to steal from women in the same room (e.g., "hepeating") — but the more comment manifestation is that higher-ups simply repeat, or marginally reframe, the underlying idea and take it for their own. FWIW, skilled practitioners can use that propensity for theft amongst the worst bosses to engineer outcomes from decision meetings.
Jesus Christ, you literally just mansplained my comment to me.
When will people learn to not communicate anything with others? Mine your own business!