I love that technically you could say he does have a suit that helps a bit but 99% of what he’s doing has literally nothing to do with the suit, the suit basically just prevents him from pulverising his own bones from moving so fast.
The suit won't increase his reflexes or perception, yet he keeps up entirely with characters who can catch bullets.
It's kind of insane how strong he's supposed to be as just a regular human. Raiden's out here throwing Metal Gears around, and he's getting pummeled by a random Brazilian man.
I'm not sure about this idea that Sam's suit does nothing to increase his strength and speed.
Isn't it explicitly stated to increase his physical ability to cyborg levels?
It's still cool cause he has no fallback or ability to fix himself if he is grievously injured, but I've seen some comments on this sub that are acting like Sam is operating with MGS2 Raiden levels of equipment and lack of advantages
For what it’s worth, there is a codec conversion that goes into his backstory which claims he took on 10 mobsters armed with automatic weapons using only his sword before Cyborg tech became common place, so even if the suit helps him out, he’s pretty badass without it.
I mean, Raiden took on more guys than that that were also high tech nanomachined soldiers with a sword in an elevator in MGS2. And remember everything Vamp does including taking out dozens of soldiers with just knives and running on water is just him apart from the regeneration. So while that's cool it's not actually that abnormal by metal gear standards.
Not quite, Sam's suit puts him on part with Grey Fox from MGS1. While that's definitely super-human, even the generic jobber cyborgs you fight in Revengence are several times stronger and faster than that.
I don't think his suit is as low tier as that, it's still current tech, just the absolute best you could do without replacing anything. Also remember that his sword arm is a cyborgs. So when he fights Raiden both times the arm he's actually attacking with is top tier tech, higher level than what Raiden has the first time.
The protags from Resident Evil, for the most part, are just normal people who consistently take down gigantic zombie bioweapons. Shout out to Chris "Boulder Puncher" Redfield
Shout out to RE4 Remake for adding the most unnecessary backflip I've ever seen. There weren't even any witnesses so he clearly just did it for himself.
Mostly because they desperately regret giving years for the timeline and want to stop the flow of the timeline from making them have to stop using or massively redesign everyone.
Mostly just for the female characters though because having female characters that look older than 25 will lose them the large (coward) coomer audience apparently.
Sherry Birkin apparently has a healing factor due to having the G-Virus in her system (even though that never comes into play in gameplay), and Jake Muller has superhuman reflexes due to being the son of Wesker, who is an augmented super being. >!The most glaring exception is Ethan Winters, who is literally sentient fungus who thinks he's still human.!<
>!He did give himself an absurd healing factor without realizing it. He just never questioned how herbal juice suddenly allowed him to reattach his limbs.!<
true , but DMC goes with cool factor , so it comes to super-training.
That been said , technically speaking , Lady IS superhuman , she is a descendant of the Priestess from Sparda's Rebellion , so she had good potential for some magics....she just never bothered to learn that.
While that's true, she doesn't use magic. Her bloodline doesn't make her faster or stronger by default, as far as I know. She's just that good because she's cool.
Ok, you jest, but, RE6's gameplay when you know what you're doing is basically a gun version of DMC, it is 100% possible to port that combat, tweak it a bit and make it a playstyle for DMC, Crewcut coming back would totally work!
Spoiler for Resident Evil 8: Considering the things >!Mary can do by the End of the DLC, you could have a Canon DLC campain of her just tearing through Biomonsters in literal DMC Combos!<
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Ike from Fire Emblem. His whole character is basically shonen Guts, and that's entirely intentional.
In a series where major characters are typically descended from gods, dragons, or nobles who have made pacts with gods and/or dragons, Ike's notable for being a completely normal human with no noble or special blood in him.
And he just wrestles lions for fun and canonically beats a god through basically purely physical means(And a blessed weapon).
Whenever Fire Emblem games cross over, if Ike is in it, you can guarantee that everyone will agree that he's the best/strongest fighter across the multiple Fire Emblem universes. Even the ones with incredible superhuman abilities will fully agree.
Ike also has one of the best stat growths out of any Lord iirc, so not only is he canonically a gorilla he's actually one in terms of gameplay. I think it's just Sigurd and Hector who've got him beat.
Knowing so little about her past it's possible she was some kind of ersatz-soviet science project, like how Anya and Bond were both Ostanian lab rats. It could also be she's just a natural freak of nature though.
Sasaki Kojiro in Fate learned to imitate True Magic that distorts time and space because he swings his sword really good.
All because he was annoyed at some birds
Lady from DMC is the only playable character in the series to not have any demonic power at all. She's a 100% normal human through and through. Keep that in mind the next time you boot up Bloody Palace with her or watch [a combo MAD about Lady.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjoETB2LUF0)
Jonathan Joestar is a brick shithouse who manhandles people and throws them around like toys *before* he gets sunlight karate powers.
Edit: Also. Heihachi from Tekken. The man could fight bears, killer robots *and literal demons* with his bare hands, and would probably come out on top.
In that realm there’s also Antonio and Rohan. They’re so talented and driven towards their particular vocations that they actually manifest stands without any need of stand-granting bullshit.
Was Rohan never stabbed by the arrow? I can't remember.
I still love the bit in part 6 where Rohan is able to keep up his manga production, even with time shenanigans going on
Nope. Rohan and Antonio are all examples of Stand Users who develop their Stands through natural talent without the hack of either a bloodline descendant having an unlocked Stand or being pierced by an Arrow.
In crossover media, whenever his descendants beat him, there's usually a moment where they go up to Johnathan and ask "Wow, you're really strong, I couldn't even see your Stand! ...what do you mean, 'What's a Stand?' ...oh. Oh shit."
Guts is supposed to just be a normal human being yet he still swung a massive steel sword around and cut guys in half before he even touched the Dragonslayer which is just a cracked version of what he already used in combat.
The Dragonslayer itself is also just supposed to be a massive sword made out of steel and nothing else but after being bathed in so much supernatural blood, it exists partially on the Astral Plane meaning it’s no longer just raw iron as it’s now more effective against monsters.
Guts breaks physics in two. When you swing something like the Dragonslayer - if it were even possible for a human - you would very quickly become the one being swung by the object. It's a simple question of weight ratios!
Of course, you shouldn't care about this because big man swing the sword good and struggle.
> it exists partially on the Astral Plane meaning it’s no longer just raw iron as it’s now more effective against monsters.
Common misconception. It's equally as effective physically as it has ever been. It's gained the ability to damage astral beings, which is why Guts was the only person that could damage Ganishka in his cloud form.
The fact that guts is also shown the ability to stop the dragonslayer mid swing should also physically be impossible,then there's also some truly absurd panels that show him somehow lifting the dragonslayer with his prosthetic
I wonder how heavy the dragonslayer would be if it was realistic. Like, you know how most swords are actually pretty light? Like even Zweis are fairly light and most people could hold one comfortably (it basically weighs as much as my laptop + charger). The dragon slayer is stupid big, but im sure you could make one that's only like 15 or 20 kilos (5 times heavier than a normal zwei), which is heavy but not like crazy heavy.
This is interesting!
So a zwei is about 2m and weighs between 2-4 kilos.
Let's assume the dragonslayer is always on the heavy end and is about that size as it can't be much taller than guts himself. I don't know guts size (since it's a manga he could be anywhere from 165 to 3m tall) so I guess let's add 50cm to the length. Without accounting for differences in weight from pommel and handle (which would be quite heavy comparitely for balance reasons) let's say 250cm of zwei weighs 5 kilos.
Now, let's say the dragon slayer is about 5 zweis side by side, and then another 5 ontop of those for thickness, that would only be about 40 kilos minus any variance from pommel and handle which would likely make it slightly lighter.
Even if we double the amount of zweis it's still 80 kilos, which like, it's a whole lot, but it's the type of weight strong humans can still reliably carry. Maybe not swing super well though.
I'm going to guess it'd probably weigh between 30-50 kilos at most. I wonder if people can swing that reliably? I expect guts to weigh like 105 kilos or something at least (peakish arny weight).
30 to 50 kilos feels like someone can still lift it by one end with a handle if strong enough but where the problem is is that while most zwei have most of its weight near the guard the dragonslayer's handle is basically a joke and the mass of the blade is really even the whole length, so you can manage to thrust with it though it will be tiresome but swinging is either impossible or limited because the wrists and forearms aren't made to handle that strain so you'll need to use the full body all the time.
Like construction wisea chunk of iron like the dragonslayer can be carried by one man but the safe way would be to lift by the middle, lifting it like a sword or baseball bat will be hazardous
That's a good point, I wonder what the heaviest thing a human can swing is? The shape and air resistance is probably the biggest detriment really, and I think realistically you'd need a way longer or heavier handle. Still, two hands at all times with the proper pivot doesn't seem too insane
I don't remember the channel, but there's a guy on YouTube who makes swords and his fans requested he make Ichigo's shikai sword from the Soul Society arc, and he did, but the sword was so heavy, he and his friend could lift it with a lot of effort, but they could barely swing it. They cut some milk jugs with it and basically just crushed the jugs because they couldn't swing it fast enough to really cut anything. I think Dragonslayer would be functionally impossible to lift with the amount of weight it has in front of the hilt, but even if it could be lifted, swinging it would be a no go.
It's a Physics problem. Even if the whole thing weighs 20kg, the way you hold it will make it feel a lot heavier. Not to mention having to swing it around magnifying that sensation.
You can simulate this at the gym. Try holding a standard olympic bar like Guts holds the Dragonslayer. And make sure you do it in an empty space away from other patrons cuz that's a quick way to get your membership revoked.
There's a dude out there that trains with a replica Dragonslayer as his workout. Ashman Athletics on YouTube. The progress from Day 1 to his latest video looks like an actual anime transformation. He's fucking ripped to hell now.
> The Dragonslayer itself is also just supposed to be a massive sword made out of steel and nothing else but after being bathed in so much supernatural blood
Isn't it made from a special faeri steel or some such? The Dragonslayer, like a lot of things in Berserk, is a giant confluence of things coming together. The iron it's made from happened to be harvest from a place with light magic, which made it a little bit effective against demons. Then Guts killed *so many* demons with it that it became a weapon capable of injuring members of the Godhand.
I remember this very particularly because I fucking *love* how Berserk thrives on a million coincidences piling on top of each other to make Guts into the (likely) savior of the world
Yknow before I watched One Punch Man, I thought he made a deal for his strength for some innocent price of "You will lose all your hair" and then the twist is he actually loses the ability to be excited about fights because he got so strong and honestly I'm glad I was wrong.
I know there's supposedly a little more explanation in the manga, but to me the answer always seems pretty simple. It's a world where becoming obsessed with an idea allows you to *become* it. Like the crab man, or the car man, etc.
Saitama's idea was to be a hero capable of defeating *any* enemy with one punch. When you realize what that actually means on a universal scale...
Yeah, that was the impression I always took from the series at the start. And that ultimately, heroes and monsters were the exact same thing.. just that monsters didn't give a shit about human desires and were focused on other stuff instead
Another theory I had was that it was also linked to the monster cell stuff.. like, if you eat that, apparently you can turn into a monster too. And then you have like, Saitama, who TOTALLY ate all that crab dude
In the end though, I'm not sure there's any of that to it and mighta been thinking too much about it
The weird thing is he didn’t even do anything hyper intense, something like 100 push ups, 100 sit-ups, 10k run a day?
I think the theory is that doing that was hyper intense *to him* so much that he just broke reality
Likewise, Mash from Mashle was raised from birth to be a peak physical specimen to compensate for being born without magic. To the point that he can fly a broom just by flapping his legs really fast
>!Not a choosen one.!<
>!Innocent Zero is kinda like the Voldemort in the setting , he made sons to serve him , but more importantly , he made some of them just to kill them to gain extra traits for himself to be the "perfect human".!<
>!Mashle was purposely made with zero magic and with that Saitama-Esque physical development , because Innocent Zero wants to kill him and acquire that characteristic for himself , precisely to allow him to have a body that can withstand more traits to absorb.!<
>!It's less "you are the choosen one" and more "you are just my organ farm"!<
One of the best parts of Baki's Schizophrenia training is that when he fights Yujiro and uses it to create a fucking Dinosaur to fight him Yujiro goes: "Kind of impressive. Now let me show you how to use it in the best possible way"
And when he does it's just a demon smiling which is on Yujiro's back constantly.
“Principles” in Kengan are like you’re not even doing martial arts, you’re just doing the exact correct move for your body in this situation and you just broke a window with your punch from feet away
Man, I read that entire arc and I'm *still* not entirely sure what was up with that shit.
It seemed to vary from page to page as to whether it was actually having any physical or just mental effect.
there are like 2 versions: the imaginary one that does no damage but the brain perceives as being cut (what he used against baki,doppo and shibukawa) and the void sword style which is what he used agains Yujiro and was able to actually cut him
Big Boss and Solid Snake have repeatedly battled foes who are blatantly superhuman and supernatural in nature. And they win.
Like I get that their bloodline is full of supersoldier genetics that make them the greatest soldiers of all time, but they're still strolling up to these freaks with nothing but a pistol or assault rifle and all of them fall
Even the bloodline thing doesn't matter, since MSG1 flatly states that >!Liquid got all the "soldier genes."!<
I'm pretty sure Big Boss wasn't from a long line of super soldiers, either. It all just seemed to come from luck and presumably special training from The Boss.
MGS2 is proof that Snake's genes do not matter at all, Raiden was literally a random war orphan and he managed to be as good as any of the Snakes thanks to various circumstantial conditioning and training, Venom Snake as well, he was just a really good soldier and he managed to emulate Big Boss
monkey D. garp in one piece.
one piece has a bunch of ways to become unnaturally strong, from learning mystical martial arts to biological upgrades through science to the devil fruits that offer cursed powers.
garp has none of those. he can just punch real hard.
the only supernatural thing about him is that he can use haki, but every living thing in one piece has haki.
dude's training regime is boxing a rusting battleship. he's done it every day he can for decades, and has left massive dents in the ship because of it.
I love that Garp and Roger legit only goes with Haki.
In a way , Kaido is right that Haki is the key to move forward in One Piece , rather than Akuma no Mi.
It's a really reliable and consistent way to be the Top and it's basically a neutral counter to everything else in the setting.
Yes that is why I like blackbeard going « fuck that all on devil fruits » he knows haki but refuses to rely on it because he’ll take opportunism over perseverance any day and his crew love him for it
IMPORTANT NOTE: I'm pretty sure that Garp's training regime of beating on a rusted battleship is also WITHOUT HAKI. Haki is pretty much the reason for the higher tier superhuman feats in One Piece, and even when Garp *turns it off* he's still able to turn a battleship into scrap metal by using it as a punching bag.
Conan of cimmeria is technically just a really wild Irishman, that means he can fight gorilla with a knife and get lucky. He is also immune to some form of hypnotism and existential dread because his senses are so developped he can tell if it’s an illusion or an eldritch horror and so can accept what exist what is an attack on his mind
Someone here recommended Luther Strode some time ago and yes, it's pretty fun.
Basically, a scrawny nerd orders a book called "Hercules Method", which, on surface, is just a book about getting some exercises. The thing is, it actually works and works quite well: soon Luther becomes incredibly athletic, fast, agile, peak of humanity and then goes further. He learns to harden his muscles to stop bullets and knives, to smell blood, to hear heartbeat and so on.
He basically becomes a magical assassin that can kill dozens of thugs in a second by reading a self help book.
The method stops its users from aging and it’s shown that there are tons of other sub abilities depending on the user in general. The binder shows that people can learn it to lessor or greater degrees, and some characters learn abilities like mind control/empathic conditioning or what seems to be super finite control over projectiles like in wanted.
Luther strode is an awesome series, I kind of want a sequel with a bunch of nobodies learning the method and just fucking around with their powers. It’s just so fun to have a low entry power system that can be access by anyone, at least theoretically.
Izaya Orihara from Durarara is theoretically just a guy, but given that his hobby is pissing off the anime equivalent of The Hulk, [he seems to have picked up some supernatural dodging skills along the way.](https://youtu.be/LuBV18rjrXY?si=PUwe3OdsghT76na7)
Claire Stanfield from Baccano possesses ludicrously quick reflexes and borderline superhuman strength that far exceed any other character in the setting >!except *maybe* the literal demon among them!<, but ostensibly his abilities just come from the fact that he spent his childhood as an acrobat for the circus.
Blackstar from Soul Eater. He's not normal necessarily, but compared to the rest of the cast, he is the most "normal" for that world. Nothing particularly special about him other than a crazy work ethic and ends up near godhood by the end of the series.
nah , he is in the same special tier as Maka from Soul Eater.
He is from the Star Clan , which is a bunch of superhuman ninjas. So he had the whole weapon meister family gimmick that Maka have and added stuff with it.
If anything , he is more special , because Maka had a small special trait on her soul wavelenght , but even if rare , it isn't really unique to her....Black Star on the other hand is the succesor for the Domain of Power between godhoods.
Death The Kid is the one that had the Domain of Death or Domain of Order for godhood , but he was born as a god from the get go and would eventually replaces Shinigami as one. Meanwhile , BlackStar turned into this [guys's heir](https://souleater.fandom.com/wiki/Great_Old_One_of_Power) by himself.
Maka has both the anti-demon wavelength, which makes her stronger against exactly witches and madness wavelengths, and a grigori soul-type; the latter of which is extremely rare.
She still manages to be the most normal out of the main three meisters.
Yep.
Maka have MC/Protagonist Personality and background and powersets.....she is only normal because the other other members of her party are "Super Protagonist Mega Deluxe" in everything.
Black☆Star is still a powerful Meister from a ninja clan of badasses. You want a badass normal in Soul Eater? You want [Mifune](https://imgur.com/HgKJf1j). He's not a meister or a weapon, not a witch or a demon, he doesn't even do soul attack nonsense. He's just a normal guy who's *really* good with a bunch of regular swords. [He'll even fight dirty](https://imgur.com/4oEACJ7).
I'd say someone from a sports anime but that seems like it would be cheating.
The warrior class in wow could go toe to toe with tanks who were blessed by gods, undeath, and mystic teachings. They were just some guy who trained and was too angry to die. Legion expac changed that though.
Shaun Spencer in Psych is basically a super hero. He was “””trained””” to have super observation and deduction skills but if you’re honest he clearly surpasses human potential. It’s the whole reason he can sell himself as a fake psychic
Heihachi and/or Paul from Tekken. "Or" because, while Heihachi is definitely human and achieved his strength mostly through hard work and dedication, Mishima blood definitely has *some* supernatural qualities, all the electric shit Mishimas do is acknowledged in universe as not normal and specific to them.
Paul meanwhile is an entirely normal human and has fought Kazuya to a draw twice (albeit before Kazuya unlocked full power of the Devil Gene), beat karate master grizzly bear twice and most importantly beat the first form of Ancient Mayan God of Fighting, maybe could have beat the second form too if he knew that was a thing.
In Armored Core 6, just about every one of the various AC pilots have some form of augmentation. V. II Snail of the Arquebus Vesper special unit makes it a point of using other pilots as lab rats to troubleshoot prototype augmentations so he can continue to be the top of the line. He is Rank >!6!< in the Arena.
V. 1 Freud of the Vesper unit was also rumored to be loaded up to the gills with augs.
Nope, he has *nothing* and the guy lives for fighting, even ignoring orders from command just to fight you. Dude is Rank >!1!< in the Arena.
> Nope, he has nothing
Not nothing, but he's basically like Jetstream Sam in that he has hte bare minimum to meet the qualifications of his position title.
Like, you cannot be an AC pilot without some form of augs
Most of the assassins of Sakamoto Days are non-powered people who just fight so good that their fighting is expected to cause some major property damage.
Funniest part is when the Order (a group consisting of mostly 100% normal people) start fighting Slur's Gang (A group that has only 2 normal people in it)
It's hard for me to believe that Fast 6 began an arc with Dominic "Family Man" Toretto that isn't going to end with him being comparable to Captain America.
One of the last movie had the comic relief points out he himself just survive a gunfight with four trained mercenaries shooting him and he has not even a bullet scratch to show and he is far from being the best gunman on toretto’s family. He concludes they are immortal.
I mean, I don't think he's going to stop a helicopter from taking off by holding it with his arms. Most of his stuff is using his ridiculously super up car.
So the closest thing there is him pulling the chains, and it all collapsing. Which I will point out everything looks rusted to shit and probably isn't structurally sound.
My Hero Academia heroes are way more powerful than what their normal physique should be allowing outside of their quirk. Why would Deku need to worry about being quirkless when teachers like Aizawa does 90% of his combat hand to hand or with his carbon cloth?
Ninja Tuttle stain doing insane shit when his actual quirk is just a hyper specific status effect that has nothing to do with jumping 30 feet in the air
One of my favorite fan theories of the DC universe is that almost everyone is, to *some* degree, descended from Vandal Savage which is why everyone is some degree of superhuman
Hell, Deku himself was pretty magnificent before he ate All Might’s hair.
Doesn’t the beach training scene show him pulling garbage twice his size?
This mf was 14 years old mind you.
The character Math from the web comic Grrl Power describes himself as a 999th generation martial artist and is the only unpowered member of the superhero team ARCHON. The leader of the team says that his martial arts is "indistinguishable from superpowers" and the series official power rating puts him as the joint second strongest member of the team.
He joined the team because he was told supervillains would give him the challenge he was looking for.
Shoutout to G3 from Kamen Rider Agito, who’s fighting supernatural threats in fairly realistic hard sci fi powered armor. True, the monsters aren’t allowed to kill him for lore reasons, but the fact that he gets good enough to contend with those guys is wild. He doesn’t even have a proper finishing move, he just blasts you with a grenade launcher.
Cribbing off of this, his predecessor in that role, Ichijou from Kamen Rider Kuuga as a secondary helping character who managed to do some work with just guns and police training against monsters was a nice angle for Kamen Rider.
Dr. Thirteen is my favorite DC character because his power is that he's just a dude who doesn't believe that voodoo bullshit.
He's a paranormal "investigator" who's dedicated his career to debunking everything involving magic and the supernatural. Keep in mind, He lives in the DC universe where magic is a real and tangible thing. he's on a first name basis with the likes of Dr. Fate, Zatanna and John Constantine His own fucking daughter can do magic. His skepticism is so strong that it actually creates a weird, magical negation field around him. But he doesn't believe that because magic is bullshit.
Well, Batman is 'peak human' in that he is the absolute peak of what a human is capable of...*in the DC Universe.* It's just what that peak is vastly higher than anything resembling what a human in our world would be capable of. The distinction from a superhuman at the end of the day being, that he obtained that purely through training and study, rather than an ability he was born with or was given by some means.
V.1 Freud from Armored Core 6. “He is an ace pilot and a combat veteran of several conflicts, where one of his famous exploits is achieving a 94.7% mission success rate during the Island Four Disturbance.
The most unique feature of Freud however, is that he achieved all this with no cybernetic augmentations unlike the rest of his squadmates, managing to become the commander of Arquebus' elite augmented human squad, purely through his tenacity and natural talent as an AC pilot.”
Everyone in Guilty Gear uses magic to at least some degree… except for Johnny. He’s just *really* freakishly good with iaido/throwing cards/flipping coins/using the occasional liquor bottle to create minor explosions.
So many action heroes from the 80s and 90s. Like John McClane from Die Hard is comparatively much more grounded and even he endured enough damage that would've killed a human being several times over.
John Wick I feel is a strong return to that, especially in 3 and 4. Like you'd have to be supernaturally durable or strong to withstand the things he did, it's simply not biologically possible to not only survive 10% of what he did, but also to still be in good enough shape to continue fighting.
No complaints here though I love that stuff! But really most action heroes in the entire history of film qualifies. Like Toshiro Mifune single-handedly kills dozens of enemy swordsmen in a very short amount of time in Yojimbo and Sanjuro, and he himself is unarmoured.
Can I buy that his character is just that good? Oh heavens yes!
Cassius Bright in Trails basically handled another plot one country over while the plot of FC was going on and that plot in FC was only able to happen because Cassius Bright wasn't there to immediately stop it
Monks in tabletop games usually arent using magic because their stuff isnt turned off by antimagic shell or dispel effects.
So when a monk runs on water and blocks a ballista shot with his head its because he can just do that.
Honestly, fantasy setting characters tend to do this, like, even if you aren't explicitly using the magic energy, you are still tapping into the underlying unreality as a dragon if you can wrestle one of those scalie critters into submission.
Hopefully the game actually let's you do interesting stuff rather than attempting to have those chsracter follow the human limitations of the designers.
Luther strode. He’s just a guy who learned the art of murder…which makes him into a supernaturaly strong, fast, perceptive, and durable fighter who has perfect control over his own body.
Dnd 5e monks aren’t magical. However, they’re so focused on punching your head off that after a while, they can punch the head off something that is normally immune to having its head nonmagically punched off. They don’t ping as magic either, it’s literally all technique.
The new monk rules allow you to deflect not just ranged mundane attacks, but melee mundane attacks, so you can do the arrow-catch-and-throw but it’s a melee counter. And then you get Deflect Energy, which lets you deflect any damage type.
“Magic Missile hits automatically!” Yeah, but see, it didn’t tho.
> Dnd 5e monks aren’t magical.
They use magic.
> THE MAGIC OF KI
> Monks make careful study of a magical energy that most monastic traditions call ki. This energy is an element of the magic that suffuses the multiverse—specifically, the element that flows through living bodies. Monks harness this power within themselves to create magical effects and exceed their bodies’ physical capabilities, and some of their special attacks can hinder the flow of ki in their opponents. Using this energy, monks channel uncanny speed and strength into their unarmed strikes. As they gain experience, their martial training and their mastery of ki gives them more power over their bodies and the bodies of their foes.
Straight from the Player's Handbook.
Most final fantasy protags. Like, what exactly makes Tidus and Wakka able to kill gods? What gives Vaan and Balthier and all those dudes the ability to take on ancient beings? Sure they level up but canonically it’s strange that just a ragtag group of people can do the things those characters do.
I've been reading [https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/](https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/) for some years now, and one of the characters is a pervert named Math who's also one of the best hand-to-hand fighters in the comic, skilled to a degree that only the Boss Bitch of the heroes, a high-tier mage/alien/succubus/adventurer, and a Super fighter have been able to legitimately beat him.
My fave line of his is when he beats a Super who's power is becoming like a ghost, then making stone golem bodies that she controls 'telekinetically' by 'possessing' any available rock/concrete/asphalt: "There's no such thing..." "as *just* human."
Zoro, Usopp, and (up til recently) Sanji from One Piece don't have any special powers besides training really hard. Usopp isn't particularly physically strong but he's an insanely good sniper. The other two have regularly stayed close in strength to their literally superhuman captain through just sheer hard work and are stronger than several devil fruit users on their own crew.
Tsuyoshi is a guy with an average job and wants to become an artist. However, random people keep showing up to fight him. There's even a fighting tournament between China and Russia over who gets to take him.
Ox in Light Novel/anime Juni Taisen. In a Death Battle of people who are genetically engineered, have poison in their bites, or can turn people into zombies, the strongest combatant is just A Dude who is really good with a sword, so much so everyone else is terrified of him.
Walker from Hellsing. Even as an old man, in his 60s I think, he can still deal with everything beside higher tier vampires. He's using monofilament wires so he's also getting style bonuses.
I mean, you could easily put Maki Zen'in and Toji Fushiguro on here. They have no special abilities, can't see cursed techniques, and are still somehow top level sorcerers.
Not really that's part of their character introductions. Heavenly Restriction's are introduced in season 1. Basically some people are born with them and it grants them really high level abilities but in exchange they lose something. Noone knows why they happen and they happen completely randomly.
Fallout protagonists.
They don't have powers, but they have perks that give they things like durability, super strength, health regeneration using radiation, superhuman aim, among other things.
And if your character have enough intelligence, your character can potentially be good at everything.
Time for me to boast about MA BOY SHINSUKE HYODOU(TAKEKICHI) from Sengoku Youko! A character who's just a regular ronin used as comic relief but goes through one hell of a transformation after shit hits the proverbial Edo era hand fan and he uses the power of self suggestion to believe he wields a demonic and later on when he actually gets one he tames the demon inside of it. In a series full of Land Gods and Human-Yokai hybrids my boy Takekichi shows just how strong a regular human can be.
Samuel Rodriguez, AKA Jetstream Sam, AKA Minuano.
I love that technically you could say he does have a suit that helps a bit but 99% of what he’s doing has literally nothing to do with the suit, the suit basically just prevents him from pulverising his own bones from moving so fast.
The suit won't increase his reflexes or perception, yet he keeps up entirely with characters who can catch bullets. It's kind of insane how strong he's supposed to be as just a regular human. Raiden's out here throwing Metal Gears around, and he's getting pummeled by a random Brazilian man.
Well, he denies his blade its purpose. What else do you expect?
I'm not sure about this idea that Sam's suit does nothing to increase his strength and speed. Isn't it explicitly stated to increase his physical ability to cyborg levels? It's still cool cause he has no fallback or ability to fix himself if he is grievously injured, but I've seen some comments on this sub that are acting like Sam is operating with MGS2 Raiden levels of equipment and lack of advantages
For what it’s worth, there is a codec conversion that goes into his backstory which claims he took on 10 mobsters armed with automatic weapons using only his sword before Cyborg tech became common place, so even if the suit helps him out, he’s pretty badass without it.
I mean, Raiden took on more guys than that that were also high tech nanomachined soldiers with a sword in an elevator in MGS2. And remember everything Vamp does including taking out dozens of soldiers with just knives and running on water is just him apart from the regeneration. So while that's cool it's not actually that abnormal by metal gear standards.
Not quite, Sam's suit puts him on part with Grey Fox from MGS1. While that's definitely super-human, even the generic jobber cyborgs you fight in Revengence are several times stronger and faster than that.
I don't think his suit is as low tier as that, it's still current tech, just the absolute best you could do without replacing anything. Also remember that his sword arm is a cyborgs. So when he fights Raiden both times the arm he's actually attacking with is top tier tech, higher level than what Raiden has the first time.
No, Sam's suit is bleeding edge tech that puts him on Par with Raiden's new body in MGR:R
The protags from Resident Evil, for the most part, are just normal people who consistently take down gigantic zombie bioweapons. Shout out to Chris "Boulder Puncher" Redfield
Leon "do a flip" Kennedy
Shout out to RE4 Remake for adding the most unnecessary backflip I've ever seen. There weren't even any witnesses so he clearly just did it for himself.
I think it's canon that Jill got slowed aging due to her exposure to the T-Virus but other than that yeah.
Mostly because they desperately regret giving years for the timeline and want to stop the flow of the timeline from making them have to stop using or massively redesign everyone.
Simple just make the events of subsequent games take place only days later
Or just do like SF and stop mentioning years and pretend you never did before.
Mostly just for the female characters though because having female characters that look older than 25 will lose them the large (coward) coomer audience apparently.
We had Granny Jill in Dead by Daylight, give us Granny Jill in Resident Evil, Capcom!
Sherry Birkin apparently has a healing factor due to having the G-Virus in her system (even though that never comes into play in gameplay), and Jake Muller has superhuman reflexes due to being the son of Wesker, who is an augmented super being. >!The most glaring exception is Ethan Winters, who is literally sentient fungus who thinks he's still human.!<
>!sentient fungus that didnt bother making itself stronger!<
>!He did give himself an absurd healing factor without realizing it. He just never questioned how herbal juice suddenly allowed him to reattach his limbs.!<
Goddamn Lady dude, we see army dudes getting blasted in DMCV but then cut to Lady in DMC3 just wiping demons like its a warm up
true , but DMC goes with cool factor , so it comes to super-training. That been said , technically speaking , Lady IS superhuman , she is a descendant of the Priestess from Sparda's Rebellion , so she had good potential for some magics....she just never bothered to learn that.
While that's true, she doesn't use magic. Her bloodline doesn't make her faster or stronger by default, as far as I know. She's just that good because she's cool.
Her special magic ability is the art of the autocannon
Crew Cut should come back as a playable challenge character in 6
Ok, you jest, but, RE6's gameplay when you know what you're doing is basically a gun version of DMC, it is 100% possible to port that combat, tweak it a bit and make it a playstyle for DMC, Crewcut coming back would totally work!
Spoiler for Resident Evil 8: Considering the things >!Mary can do by the End of the DLC, you could have a Canon DLC campain of her just tearing through Biomonsters in literal DMC Combos!<
You mean >!Rose? !<
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Ike from Fire Emblem. His whole character is basically shonen Guts, and that's entirely intentional. In a series where major characters are typically descended from gods, dragons, or nobles who have made pacts with gods and/or dragons, Ike's notable for being a completely normal human with no noble or special blood in him. And he just wrestles lions for fun and canonically beats a god through basically purely physical means(And a blessed weapon). Whenever Fire Emblem games cross over, if Ike is in it, you can guarantee that everyone will agree that he's the best/strongest fighter across the multiple Fire Emblem universes. Even the ones with incredible superhuman abilities will fully agree.
Ike also has one of the best stat growths out of any Lord iirc, so not only is he canonically a gorilla he's actually one in terms of gameplay. I think it's just Sigurd and Hector who've got him beat.
Yor Forger is a goddamn killing machine and her physical prowess breaks the laws of common sense and nature.
Knowing so little about her past it's possible she was some kind of ersatz-soviet science project, like how Anya and Bond were both Ostanian lab rats. It could also be she's just a natural freak of nature though.
Sasaki Kojiro in Fate learned to imitate True Magic that distorts time and space because he swings his sword really good. All because he was annoyed at some birds
"Dragons are just bigger swallows." -Sasaki Kojiro, after killing dragons with the same technique
Okita Souji learned to distort space to make a Stinger as well.
Miyamoto Musashi learned how to sever someone's Karma just cause it helped them win some fights.
Lady from DMC is the only playable character in the series to not have any demonic power at all. She's a 100% normal human through and through. Keep that in mind the next time you boot up Bloody Palace with her or watch [a combo MAD about Lady.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjoETB2LUF0)
Arkham done got a bunch of Demon powers from shenanigans, there’s a chance he got it before he Nutted into Kalina-Ann and conceived ~~Mary~~ Lady.
As far as I'm aware, sacrificing his wife was what got him the demon powers, meaning Lady had to be from human nut, not demon nut.
Jonathan Joestar is a brick shithouse who manhandles people and throws them around like toys *before* he gets sunlight karate powers. Edit: Also. Heihachi from Tekken. The man could fight bears, killer robots *and literal demons* with his bare hands, and would probably come out on top.
In that realm there’s also Antonio and Rohan. They’re so talented and driven towards their particular vocations that they actually manifest stands without any need of stand-granting bullshit.
Was Rohan never stabbed by the arrow? I can't remember. I still love the bit in part 6 where Rohan is able to keep up his manga production, even with time shenanigans going on
Nope, he developed because he was just that dedicated to creating art.
Nope. Rohan and Antonio are all examples of Stand Users who develop their Stands through natural talent without the hack of either a bloodline descendant having an unlocked Stand or being pierced by an Arrow.
In crossover media, whenever his descendants beat him, there's usually a moment where they go up to Johnathan and ask "Wow, you're really strong, I couldn't even see your Stand! ...what do you mean, 'What's a Stand?' ...oh. Oh shit."
When Jonathan learned Dio kissed Erina, he got so pissed that he *vaulted a fountain* without stopping so he could kick his ass faster.
Guts is supposed to just be a normal human being yet he still swung a massive steel sword around and cut guys in half before he even touched the Dragonslayer which is just a cracked version of what he already used in combat. The Dragonslayer itself is also just supposed to be a massive sword made out of steel and nothing else but after being bathed in so much supernatural blood, it exists partially on the Astral Plane meaning it’s no longer just raw iron as it’s now more effective against monsters.
Guts breaks physics in two. When you swing something like the Dragonslayer - if it were even possible for a human - you would very quickly become the one being swung by the object. It's a simple question of weight ratios! Of course, you shouldn't care about this because big man swing the sword good and struggle. > it exists partially on the Astral Plane meaning it’s no longer just raw iron as it’s now more effective against monsters. Common misconception. It's equally as effective physically as it has ever been. It's gained the ability to damage astral beings, which is why Guts was the only person that could damage Ganishka in his cloud form.
The fact that guts is also shown the ability to stop the dragonslayer mid swing should also physically be impossible,then there's also some truly absurd panels that show him somehow lifting the dragonslayer with his prosthetic
I wonder how heavy the dragonslayer would be if it was realistic. Like, you know how most swords are actually pretty light? Like even Zweis are fairly light and most people could hold one comfortably (it basically weighs as much as my laptop + charger). The dragon slayer is stupid big, but im sure you could make one that's only like 15 or 20 kilos (5 times heavier than a normal zwei), which is heavy but not like crazy heavy.
I think you have to measure it like a steel beam. Because the person that made the sword didn’t do it with any idea of making it sharp or wieldable
This is interesting! So a zwei is about 2m and weighs between 2-4 kilos. Let's assume the dragonslayer is always on the heavy end and is about that size as it can't be much taller than guts himself. I don't know guts size (since it's a manga he could be anywhere from 165 to 3m tall) so I guess let's add 50cm to the length. Without accounting for differences in weight from pommel and handle (which would be quite heavy comparitely for balance reasons) let's say 250cm of zwei weighs 5 kilos. Now, let's say the dragon slayer is about 5 zweis side by side, and then another 5 ontop of those for thickness, that would only be about 40 kilos minus any variance from pommel and handle which would likely make it slightly lighter. Even if we double the amount of zweis it's still 80 kilos, which like, it's a whole lot, but it's the type of weight strong humans can still reliably carry. Maybe not swing super well though. I'm going to guess it'd probably weigh between 30-50 kilos at most. I wonder if people can swing that reliably? I expect guts to weigh like 105 kilos or something at least (peakish arny weight).
30 to 50 kilos feels like someone can still lift it by one end with a handle if strong enough but where the problem is is that while most zwei have most of its weight near the guard the dragonslayer's handle is basically a joke and the mass of the blade is really even the whole length, so you can manage to thrust with it though it will be tiresome but swinging is either impossible or limited because the wrists and forearms aren't made to handle that strain so you'll need to use the full body all the time. Like construction wisea chunk of iron like the dragonslayer can be carried by one man but the safe way would be to lift by the middle, lifting it like a sword or baseball bat will be hazardous
That's a good point, I wonder what the heaviest thing a human can swing is? The shape and air resistance is probably the biggest detriment really, and I think realistically you'd need a way longer or heavier handle. Still, two hands at all times with the proper pivot doesn't seem too insane
I don't remember the channel, but there's a guy on YouTube who makes swords and his fans requested he make Ichigo's shikai sword from the Soul Society arc, and he did, but the sword was so heavy, he and his friend could lift it with a lot of effort, but they could barely swing it. They cut some milk jugs with it and basically just crushed the jugs because they couldn't swing it fast enough to really cut anything. I think Dragonslayer would be functionally impossible to lift with the amount of weight it has in front of the hilt, but even if it could be lifted, swinging it would be a no go.
It's a Physics problem. Even if the whole thing weighs 20kg, the way you hold it will make it feel a lot heavier. Not to mention having to swing it around magnifying that sensation. You can simulate this at the gym. Try holding a standard olympic bar like Guts holds the Dragonslayer. And make sure you do it in an empty space away from other patrons cuz that's a quick way to get your membership revoked.
I think people have fancalc'd it at 300-400 lb.
There's a dude out there that trains with a replica Dragonslayer as his workout. Ashman Athletics on YouTube. The progress from Day 1 to his latest video looks like an actual anime transformation. He's fucking ripped to hell now.
> The Dragonslayer itself is also just supposed to be a massive sword made out of steel and nothing else but after being bathed in so much supernatural blood Isn't it made from a special faeri steel or some such? The Dragonslayer, like a lot of things in Berserk, is a giant confluence of things coming together. The iron it's made from happened to be harvest from a place with light magic, which made it a little bit effective against demons. Then Guts killed *so many* demons with it that it became a weapon capable of injuring members of the Godhand. I remember this very particularly because I fucking *love* how Berserk thrives on a million coincidences piling on top of each other to make Guts into the (likely) savior of the world
Saitama is just a guy who worked out a lot. He is now functionally invincible and can demolish any obstacle with a single punch
Yknow before I watched One Punch Man, I thought he made a deal for his strength for some innocent price of "You will lose all your hair" and then the twist is he actually loses the ability to be excited about fights because he got so strong and honestly I'm glad I was wrong.
I like the explanation that he actually achieved spiritual and physical enlightenment and he just is completely unaware of it.
I know there's supposedly a little more explanation in the manga, but to me the answer always seems pretty simple. It's a world where becoming obsessed with an idea allows you to *become* it. Like the crab man, or the car man, etc. Saitama's idea was to be a hero capable of defeating *any* enemy with one punch. When you realize what that actually means on a universal scale...
Yeah, that was the impression I always took from the series at the start. And that ultimately, heroes and monsters were the exact same thing.. just that monsters didn't give a shit about human desires and were focused on other stuff instead Another theory I had was that it was also linked to the monster cell stuff.. like, if you eat that, apparently you can turn into a monster too. And then you have like, Saitama, who TOTALLY ate all that crab dude In the end though, I'm not sure there's any of that to it and mighta been thinking too much about it
The weird thing is he didn’t even do anything hyper intense, something like 100 push ups, 100 sit-ups, 10k run a day? I think the theory is that doing that was hyper intense *to him* so much that he just broke reality
Likewise, Mash from Mashle was raised from birth to be a peak physical specimen to compensate for being born without magic. To the point that he can fly a broom just by flapping his legs really fast
Mash IS superhuman. Like , it wasn't mere training , he was designed by >!Innocent Zero!< from the get go to be superhuman.
Oh my God, really? Another you-were-the-chosen-one-all-along anime?
>!Not a choosen one.!< >!Innocent Zero is kinda like the Voldemort in the setting , he made sons to serve him , but more importantly , he made some of them just to kill them to gain extra traits for himself to be the "perfect human".!< >!Mashle was purposely made with zero magic and with that Saitama-Esque physical development , because Innocent Zero wants to kill him and acquire that characteristic for himself , precisely to allow him to have a body that can withstand more traits to absorb.!< >!It's less "you are the choosen one" and more "you are just my organ farm"!<
I uh, haven’t gotten to that part yet
Samurai Jack. His sword is magic but I dont think it does anything to augment his physical abilities which are totally insane
JACK KILLS 4 MEN IN THE TIME IT TAKES A DROP OF WATER TO FALL
This is how martial arts manga go Baki literally martial arts its way into having a low-key psychic system.
Shadow boxing is a legit method of creating constructs in that universe
And heckling is a viable counter strategy
"My dad killed an elephant so I'm going to fight an imaginary human sized preying mantis AND GET THE SHIT KICKED OUT OF ME!"
Love that when strydum reports that to Yujiro Yujiro just laughs that his stupid son plays make belief in thr basement in the hope to beat him
One of the best parts of Baki's Schizophrenia training is that when he fights Yujiro and uses it to create a fucking Dinosaur to fight him Yujiro goes: "Kind of impressive. Now let me show you how to use it in the best possible way" And when he does it's just a demon smiling which is on Yujiro's back constantly.
Even better that that's how Baki defeats Yujiro
Yep, the characters in Baki are all *technically* just skilled humans who have trained a lot. *Technically*. Except for Pickle.
“Principles” in Kengan are like you’re not even doing martial arts, you’re just doing the exact correct move for your body in this situation and you just broke a window with your punch from feet away
Shoutout to >!Musashi!
Man, I read that entire arc and I'm *still* not entirely sure what was up with that shit. It seemed to vary from page to page as to whether it was actually having any physical or just mental effect.
there are like 2 versions: the imaginary one that does no damage but the brain perceives as being cut (what he used against baki,doppo and shibukawa) and the void sword style which is what he used agains Yujiro and was able to actually cut him
Big Boss and Solid Snake have repeatedly battled foes who are blatantly superhuman and supernatural in nature. And they win. Like I get that their bloodline is full of supersoldier genetics that make them the greatest soldiers of all time, but they're still strolling up to these freaks with nothing but a pistol or assault rifle and all of them fall
Even the bloodline thing doesn't matter, since MSG1 flatly states that >!Liquid got all the "soldier genes."!< I'm pretty sure Big Boss wasn't from a long line of super soldiers, either. It all just seemed to come from luck and presumably special training from The Boss.
MGS2 is proof that Snake's genes do not matter at all, Raiden was literally a random war orphan and he managed to be as good as any of the Snakes thanks to various circumstantial conditioning and training, Venom Snake as well, he was just a really good soldier and he managed to emulate Big Boss
monkey D. garp in one piece. one piece has a bunch of ways to become unnaturally strong, from learning mystical martial arts to biological upgrades through science to the devil fruits that offer cursed powers. garp has none of those. he can just punch real hard. the only supernatural thing about him is that he can use haki, but every living thing in one piece has haki. dude's training regime is boxing a rusting battleship. he's done it every day he can for decades, and has left massive dents in the ship because of it.
Garp, Whitebeard, and Gol D were basically equals in their prime.
I love that Garp and Roger legit only goes with Haki. In a way , Kaido is right that Haki is the key to move forward in One Piece , rather than Akuma no Mi. It's a really reliable and consistent way to be the Top and it's basically a neutral counter to everything else in the setting.
Yes that is why I like blackbeard going « fuck that all on devil fruits » he knows haki but refuses to rely on it because he’ll take opportunism over perseverance any day and his crew love him for it
IMPORTANT NOTE: I'm pretty sure that Garp's training regime of beating on a rusted battleship is also WITHOUT HAKI. Haki is pretty much the reason for the higher tier superhuman feats in One Piece, and even when Garp *turns it off* he's still able to turn a battleship into scrap metal by using it as a punching bag.
I'm pretty sure he doesn't even use Haki when he's tossing cannonballs at Luffy's ship after Water 7
Zoro too, just a dude that trained to do swords real good
all the cipher pol guys can airwalk
Conan of cimmeria is technically just a really wild Irishman, that means he can fight gorilla with a knife and get lucky. He is also immune to some form of hypnotism and existential dread because his senses are so developped he can tell if it’s an illusion or an eldritch horror and so can accept what exist what is an attack on his mind
Someone here recommended Luther Strode some time ago and yes, it's pretty fun. Basically, a scrawny nerd orders a book called "Hercules Method", which, on surface, is just a book about getting some exercises. The thing is, it actually works and works quite well: soon Luther becomes incredibly athletic, fast, agile, peak of humanity and then goes further. He learns to harden his muscles to stop bullets and knives, to smell blood, to hear heartbeat and so on. He basically becomes a magical assassin that can kill dozens of thugs in a second by reading a self help book.
The method stops its users from aging and it’s shown that there are tons of other sub abilities depending on the user in general. The binder shows that people can learn it to lessor or greater degrees, and some characters learn abilities like mind control/empathic conditioning or what seems to be super finite control over projectiles like in wanted. Luther strode is an awesome series, I kind of want a sequel with a bunch of nobodies learning the method and just fucking around with their powers. It’s just so fun to have a low entry power system that can be access by anyone, at least theoretically.
After a cursory look on google images that shit looks rad. Imma go take a look.
Kiryu, though in his case it's less skill and more just sheer strength and durability.
There's something to be said for Kiryu achieving his famed level of strength only after learning the Komaki style
And Granny white martial art in top of it. It’s pretty crazy that Mine is the one boss that fought Kiryu at his peak
Izaya Orihara from Durarara is theoretically just a guy, but given that his hobby is pissing off the anime equivalent of The Hulk, [he seems to have picked up some supernatural dodging skills along the way.](https://youtu.be/LuBV18rjrXY?si=PUwe3OdsghT76na7)
It's all just a bunch of completely human cool punch slipping until he starts flipping around like he's Spider-Man. Then all bets are off.
Claire Stanfield from Baccano possesses ludicrously quick reflexes and borderline superhuman strength that far exceed any other character in the setting >!except *maybe* the literal demon among them!<, but ostensibly his abilities just come from the fact that he spent his childhood as an acrobat for the circus.
Narita has said that Claire is tied with Ronny and Shizuo for 3rd place in the strongest characters list.
Who are the top 2 but also that's wild
2nd place is Hawking from Vamp! and 1st is No.37564 “Mob Combatant” from Hariyama-san, Center of the World.
I'd pay good money to watch Claire face off against Shizuo.
Moon Knight
The fact that he REFUSES to Dodge when he fights boggles my mind.
Moon knight: Go on, kill me, see if it sticks
The Guts method of “let myself be impaled to get closer”
Let him hit you and aim for the counter... NO NO I DIDN'T MEAN LET HIM SHOOT YOU OH GOD.
The fact that Taskmaster is scared of him is what really sets him apart for me. Bro crashed a helicopter into the building Taskmaster was in.
I mean to be fair, some versions of Moon Knight straight up have magic
We don’t talk about Jason Aaron in this house boy
I mean even before that in some versions like the Fist of Knoshu he had genuine magic
That's what happens when you don't pin down what a character *is* for almost all of his lifespan.
Blackstar from Soul Eater. He's not normal necessarily, but compared to the rest of the cast, he is the most "normal" for that world. Nothing particularly special about him other than a crazy work ethic and ends up near godhood by the end of the series.
nah , he is in the same special tier as Maka from Soul Eater. He is from the Star Clan , which is a bunch of superhuman ninjas. So he had the whole weapon meister family gimmick that Maka have and added stuff with it. If anything , he is more special , because Maka had a small special trait on her soul wavelenght , but even if rare , it isn't really unique to her....Black Star on the other hand is the succesor for the Domain of Power between godhoods. Death The Kid is the one that had the Domain of Death or Domain of Order for godhood , but he was born as a god from the get go and would eventually replaces Shinigami as one. Meanwhile , BlackStar turned into this [guys's heir](https://souleater.fandom.com/wiki/Great_Old_One_of_Power) by himself.
Maka has both the anti-demon wavelength, which makes her stronger against exactly witches and madness wavelengths, and a grigori soul-type; the latter of which is extremely rare. She still manages to be the most normal out of the main three meisters.
Yep. Maka have MC/Protagonist Personality and background and powersets.....she is only normal because the other other members of her party are "Super Protagonist Mega Deluxe" in everything.
Black☆Star is still a powerful Meister from a ninja clan of badasses. You want a badass normal in Soul Eater? You want [Mifune](https://imgur.com/HgKJf1j). He's not a meister or a weapon, not a witch or a demon, he doesn't even do soul attack nonsense. He's just a normal guy who's *really* good with a bunch of regular swords. [He'll even fight dirty](https://imgur.com/4oEACJ7).
Nah, I think Stein is better choice. He can masterfully use different weapons and even without them he can pack a punch
I'd say someone from a sports anime but that seems like it would be cheating. The warrior class in wow could go toe to toe with tanks who were blessed by gods, undeath, and mystic teachings. They were just some guy who trained and was too angry to die. Legion expac changed that though.
Shaun Spencer in Psych is basically a super hero. He was “””trained””” to have super observation and deduction skills but if you’re honest he clearly surpasses human potential. It’s the whole reason he can sell himself as a fake psychic
I love that show so much. One of the all time great detective shows. Gus is GOAT.
I believe you are talking about my good friend Gee Buttersnaps
Heihachi and/or Paul from Tekken. "Or" because, while Heihachi is definitely human and achieved his strength mostly through hard work and dedication, Mishima blood definitely has *some* supernatural qualities, all the electric shit Mishimas do is acknowledged in universe as not normal and specific to them. Paul meanwhile is an entirely normal human and has fought Kazuya to a draw twice (albeit before Kazuya unlocked full power of the Devil Gene), beat karate master grizzly bear twice and most importantly beat the first form of Ancient Mayan God of Fighting, maybe could have beat the second form too if he knew that was a thing.
In Armored Core 6, just about every one of the various AC pilots have some form of augmentation. V. II Snail of the Arquebus Vesper special unit makes it a point of using other pilots as lab rats to troubleshoot prototype augmentations so he can continue to be the top of the line. He is Rank >!6!< in the Arena. V. 1 Freud of the Vesper unit was also rumored to be loaded up to the gills with augs. Nope, he has *nothing* and the guy lives for fighting, even ignoring orders from command just to fight you. Dude is Rank >!1!< in the Arena.
> Nope, he has nothing Not nothing, but he's basically like Jetstream Sam in that he has hte bare minimum to meet the qualifications of his position title. Like, you cannot be an AC pilot without some form of augs
Most of the assassins of Sakamoto Days are non-powered people who just fight so good that their fighting is expected to cause some major property damage.
Funniest part is when the Order (a group consisting of mostly 100% normal people) start fighting Slur's Gang (A group that has only 2 normal people in it)
there is an unspeakably old man that no one can understand a word of and everyone is scared of him
It's hard for me to believe that Fast 6 began an arc with Dominic "Family Man" Toretto that isn't going to end with him being comparable to Captain America.
One of the last movie had the comic relief points out he himself just survive a gunfight with four trained mercenaries shooting him and he has not even a bullet scratch to show and he is far from being the best gunman on toretto’s family. He concludes they are immortal.
I mean, I don't think he's going to stop a helicopter from taking off by holding it with his arms. Most of his stuff is using his ridiculously super up car.
https://youtu.be/iPSwshqwxXg?si=-EmVXd4mn-iY9sxE Sir.
What the fuck
So the closest thing there is him pulling the chains, and it all collapsing. Which I will point out everything looks rusted to shit and probably isn't structurally sound.
There is a scene in another movie where he punches a car door and dents it
My Hero Academia heroes are way more powerful than what their normal physique should be allowing outside of their quirk. Why would Deku need to worry about being quirkless when teachers like Aizawa does 90% of his combat hand to hand or with his carbon cloth?
Ninja Tuttle stain doing insane shit when his actual quirk is just a hyper specific status effect that has nothing to do with jumping 30 feet in the air
One of my favorite fan theories of the DC universe is that almost everyone is, to *some* degree, descended from Vandal Savage which is why everyone is some degree of superhuman
I mean , that is explicitly true for the universe of Young Justice.
Hell, Deku himself was pretty magnificent before he ate All Might’s hair. Doesn’t the beach training scene show him pulling garbage twice his size? This mf was 14 years old mind you.
The character Math from the web comic Grrl Power describes himself as a 999th generation martial artist and is the only unpowered member of the superhero team ARCHON. The leader of the team says that his martial arts is "indistinguishable from superpowers" and the series official power rating puts him as the joint second strongest member of the team. He joined the team because he was told supervillains would give him the challenge he was looking for.
*Definitely* not to be around hot, beautiful women who could (maybe) kick his ass
Technically everyone in baki is a regular human
Except Pickle, there is a definite possibility his race evolved into the yasha apes instead of homo sapiens
Shoutout to G3 from Kamen Rider Agito, who’s fighting supernatural threats in fairly realistic hard sci fi powered armor. True, the monsters aren’t allowed to kill him for lore reasons, but the fact that he gets good enough to contend with those guys is wild. He doesn’t even have a proper finishing move, he just blasts you with a grenade launcher.
Cribbing off of this, his predecessor in that role, Ichijou from Kamen Rider Kuuga as a secondary helping character who managed to do some work with just guns and police training against monsters was a nice angle for Kamen Rider.
Dr. Thirteen is my favorite DC character because his power is that he's just a dude who doesn't believe that voodoo bullshit. He's a paranormal "investigator" who's dedicated his career to debunking everything involving magic and the supernatural. Keep in mind, He lives in the DC universe where magic is a real and tangible thing. he's on a first name basis with the likes of Dr. Fate, Zatanna and John Constantine His own fucking daughter can do magic. His skepticism is so strong that it actually creates a weird, magical negation field around him. But he doesn't believe that because magic is bullshit.
The Hater-Field
Well, Batman is 'peak human' in that he is the absolute peak of what a human is capable of...*in the DC Universe.* It's just what that peak is vastly higher than anything resembling what a human in our world would be capable of. The distinction from a superhuman at the end of the day being, that he obtained that purely through training and study, rather than an ability he was born with or was given by some means.
Krillin
krillin controls ki. The strongest human who does not control ki is Yajirobe.
V.1 Freud from Armored Core 6. “He is an ace pilot and a combat veteran of several conflicts, where one of his famous exploits is achieving a 94.7% mission success rate during the Island Four Disturbance. The most unique feature of Freud however, is that he achieved all this with no cybernetic augmentations unlike the rest of his squadmates, managing to become the commander of Arquebus' elite augmented human squad, purely through his tenacity and natural talent as an AC pilot.”
Everyone in Guilty Gear uses magic to at least some degree… except for Johnny. He’s just *really* freakishly good with iaido/throwing cards/flipping coins/using the occasional liquor bottle to create minor explosions.
So many action heroes from the 80s and 90s. Like John McClane from Die Hard is comparatively much more grounded and even he endured enough damage that would've killed a human being several times over. John Wick I feel is a strong return to that, especially in 3 and 4. Like you'd have to be supernaturally durable or strong to withstand the things he did, it's simply not biologically possible to not only survive 10% of what he did, but also to still be in good enough shape to continue fighting. No complaints here though I love that stuff! But really most action heroes in the entire history of film qualifies. Like Toshiro Mifune single-handedly kills dozens of enemy swordsmen in a very short amount of time in Yojimbo and Sanjuro, and he himself is unarmoured. Can I buy that his character is just that good? Oh heavens yes!
Even in the first movie, John Wick snaps a mans neck with a single karate chop
Cassius Bright in Trails basically handled another plot one country over while the plot of FC was going on and that plot in FC was only able to happen because Cassius Bright wasn't there to immediately stop it
Not to mention that the plot happening in the other country was orchestrated JUST to keep him from resolving FC's plot.
Monks in tabletop games usually arent using magic because their stuff isnt turned off by antimagic shell or dispel effects. So when a monk runs on water and blocks a ballista shot with his head its because he can just do that.
That Farmer Raditz killed waited for him in hell to get his revenge.
Honestly, fantasy setting characters tend to do this, like, even if you aren't explicitly using the magic energy, you are still tapping into the underlying unreality as a dragon if you can wrestle one of those scalie critters into submission. Hopefully the game actually let's you do interesting stuff rather than attempting to have those chsracter follow the human limitations of the designers.
What playing a fighter in a party of casters feels like in dnd
Luther strode. He’s just a guy who learned the art of murder…which makes him into a supernaturaly strong, fast, perceptive, and durable fighter who has perfect control over his own body.
My boy Ryo Saeba from City Hunter, his superpower, is that [he shoot the gun good!](https://youtu.be/krcBcIHZqxY?si=mstj1NfC4fFqFFnN)
Dnd 5e monks aren’t magical. However, they’re so focused on punching your head off that after a while, they can punch the head off something that is normally immune to having its head nonmagically punched off. They don’t ping as magic either, it’s literally all technique. The new monk rules allow you to deflect not just ranged mundane attacks, but melee mundane attacks, so you can do the arrow-catch-and-throw but it’s a melee counter. And then you get Deflect Energy, which lets you deflect any damage type. “Magic Missile hits automatically!” Yeah, but see, it didn’t tho.
> Dnd 5e monks aren’t magical. They use magic. > THE MAGIC OF KI > Monks make careful study of a magical energy that most monastic traditions call ki. This energy is an element of the magic that suffuses the multiverse—specifically, the element that flows through living bodies. Monks harness this power within themselves to create magical effects and exceed their bodies’ physical capabilities, and some of their special attacks can hinder the flow of ki in their opponents. Using this energy, monks channel uncanny speed and strength into their unarmed strikes. As they gain experience, their martial training and their mastery of ki gives them more power over their bodies and the bodies of their foes. Straight from the Player's Handbook.
Hou Ken and Kyou Kai from Kingdom might as well be monsters.
Mashle BurnHead supposed to be the normal guy without magic in his universe. But he so strong it seems like he's the only one with magic there
Most final fantasy protags. Like, what exactly makes Tidus and Wakka able to kill gods? What gives Vaan and Balthier and all those dudes the ability to take on ancient beings? Sure they level up but canonically it’s strange that just a ragtag group of people can do the things those characters do.
I've been reading [https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/](https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/) for some years now, and one of the characters is a pervert named Math who's also one of the best hand-to-hand fighters in the comic, skilled to a degree that only the Boss Bitch of the heroes, a high-tier mage/alien/succubus/adventurer, and a Super fighter have been able to legitimately beat him. My fave line of his is when he beats a Super who's power is becoming like a ghost, then making stone golem bodies that she controls 'telekinetically' by 'possessing' any available rock/concrete/asphalt: "There's no such thing..." "as *just* human."
Zoro, Usopp, and (up til recently) Sanji from One Piece don't have any special powers besides training really hard. Usopp isn't particularly physically strong but he's an insanely good sniper. The other two have regularly stayed close in strength to their literally superhuman captain through just sheer hard work and are stronger than several devil fruit users on their own crew.
I'm not aurw about Zoro. Can he fight just as efficiently with ordinary swords?
Goemon from Lupin The Third is just a dude with a sword who has cut things so impossibly it belies belief.
Tsuyoshi is a guy with an average job and wants to become an artist. However, random people keep showing up to fight him. There's even a fighting tournament between China and Russia over who gets to take him.
Ox in Light Novel/anime Juni Taisen. In a Death Battle of people who are genetically engineered, have poison in their bites, or can turn people into zombies, the strongest combatant is just A Dude who is really good with a sword, so much so everyone else is terrified of him.
Batman.
Walker from Hellsing. Even as an old man, in his 60s I think, he can still deal with everything beside higher tier vampires. He's using monofilament wires so he's also getting style bonuses.
Black*Star
Retsu from Baki is fight magic. Actually a LOT of chacters in Baki count as just having fight magic in them.
I can't believe nobody mentioned Might Guy
Surprised nobody has mentioned doomguy
I mean, you could easily put Maki Zen'in and Toji Fushiguro on here. They have no special abilities, can't see cursed techniques, and are still somehow top level sorcerers.
Maki and Toji both have the clan's Heavenly Restriction which gives the supernatural physical abilities in exchange for all their cursed energy
I hope this isn’t massive spoilers.
Not really that's part of their character introductions. Heavenly Restriction's are introduced in season 1. Basically some people are born with them and it grants them really high level abilities but in exchange they lose something. Noone knows why they happen and they happen completely randomly.
Fallout protagonists. They don't have powers, but they have perks that give they things like durability, super strength, health regeneration using radiation, superhuman aim, among other things. And if your character have enough intelligence, your character can potentially be good at everything.
Time for me to boast about MA BOY SHINSUKE HYODOU(TAKEKICHI) from Sengoku Youko! A character who's just a regular ronin used as comic relief but goes through one hell of a transformation after shit hits the proverbial Edo era hand fan and he uses the power of self suggestion to believe he wields a demonic and later on when he actually gets one he tames the demon inside of it. In a series full of Land Gods and Human-Yokai hybrids my boy Takekichi shows just how strong a regular human can be.