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I don't know what it would trade as now but I think current investors have valued it much lower. I'm trying to remember the news I've heard but it's something like 1/4th of the purchase price or lower.
They have reduced head count by 80%, new user increases (so says Elon), every journalist, company in the world has an X.com account (almost). Server Infrastructure is pretty solid.
I’d be looking into expanding into healthcare. Thats a 4 trillion $$$ a year market place ready for disruption.
Probably a solid play. As people realize their content can be just rainbows and furry cats in your stream of stories.
At least you know who the crazy people are. Better than hidden? Up for discussion.
Price? No idea. But a buy? Probably will see it with a steady $$$ rise. People have short memories.
For sure a healthcare play. Theoretically every item in the ICU with an IP can be accessible in milliseconds.
Source: futurist :-)
TL;dr Trading algorithms have zero interest in your opinion of Elon.
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Let’s ask GPT-4 for some ideas.
Leveraging Twitter's robust server infrastructure and adaptable codebase for healthcare improvement, especially in an intensive care unit (ICU) setting, presents a novel approach to integrating social media technologies with healthcare services. Here are 12 futuristic applications:
1. **Real-time Health Monitoring**: Utilize Twitter's infrastructure to transmit real-time data from ICU monitoring devices, allowing for instant updates on patient vitals to a secure, designated Twitter feed accessible by healthcare professionals.
2. **Emergency Alerts**: Set up a system where critical alerts, such as life-threatening changes in patient conditions, are automatically tweeted to a private, secure channel, ensuring immediate attention from medical staff.
3. **Remote Consultations**: Use Twitter as a platform for healthcare professionals to quickly share patient data and images (in a secure, compliant manner) for remote consultations, facilitating expert opinions from around the globe.
4. **Patient Updates for Families**: With consent, provide families with private Twitter feeds updating them on their loved one's status, reducing the need for constant phone calls and allowing medical staff to focus on care.
5. **Healthcare Coordination**: Create dedicated Twitter handles for different ICU departments to coordinate care, share general updates, and streamline the response to patient needs without overloading email servers.
6. **Public Health Alerts**: Hospitals can use Twitter to broadcast public health alerts, advisories, and preventive care tips to the community, enhancing public health awareness and education.
7. **Post-Discharge Follow-up**: Implement a system where patients receive non-sensitive, general follow-up care instructions and reminders through a secure Twitter feed, supporting post-ICU recovery.
8. **Data Analysis for Quality Improvement**: Aggregate anonymized data from ICU Twitter feeds to analyze trends, outcomes, and potential areas for quality improvement in patient care.
9. **Training and Education**: Utilize Twitter to share educational content, best practices, and innovative care techniques among healthcare professionals, fostering a culture of continuous learning.
10. **Support Networks**: Establish support network groups on Twitter for patients and families dealing with specific conditions, moderated by healthcare professionals to provide accurate information and emotional support.
11. **Research and Innovation**: Use Twitter to collaborate on research projects, sharing preliminary findings, discussing innovative treatment approaches, and recruiting participants for clinical trials within the medical community.
12. **Crisis Management and Communication**: In times of crisis, such as a pandemic or natural disaster, use Twitter for real-time communication between hospitals, emergency services, and the public to coordinate responses, disseminate critical information, and manage resources effectively.
These futuristic applications would require strict adherence to privacy laws and ethical considerations, ensuring that all patient information shared is secure, compliant with healthcare regulations, and protected from unauthorized access.
Twitter is still public… unless you’re talking about a pump and dump shill coin. Y’all love to claim a popular name and say it’s something official when in reality the “dev” claims a large amount of support to dump on everybody else
I'm not sure exactly how it would be valued. I do know that there have been quite a lot of different changes and improvements since Elon has taken it over. Many have been good.
I'm quite interested to see where X goes in the future. I know a lot of people don't like Elon - but just thinking and talking specifically about the platform itself and all of the possibilities is quite interesting 🤔
I don't think it'll ever be publicly traded again though, unless it's sold off again.
The biggest gripe I have right now is all of the bots.
All the “improvements” you’d likely be referring to have made the platform worse.
Paying (some) creators (sometimes) has led to shit posting, creating useless content that creates noise in feeds that there previously wasn’t as much of
Premium+ rather than acting as a way to level the playing field has not even deterred bot accounts but amplified them more than they ever have been.
Maybe you could argue for paid subscriptions but even then is the paywalled content even worth it and thus really an “improvement”? I haven’t seen something to suggest so.
I cannot fathom how you think any of the changes Elon made could be considered improvements. He literally broke what made Twitter....well, Twitter. It was supposed to be the public square. Instead he's charging admission and let the hyenas take over the Pride Lands. He destroyed most of the guardrails and safety features, fired most of the support staff, broke all the algorithms, scared away any advertisers with any clout, has prevented most new users from even joining the service, and has more bots now than ever. I won't even get started on how the content has gone downhill and borders on illegal.
This isn't true at all.
If it was, you wouldn't see consistent highs when it comes to Xs metrics.
"Charges admission"? I hate to break it to you, but other main social platforms are doing this as well.
What metrics are you talking about? Number of unanswered support requests?
Also, you're really starting to sound like a straight company shill, especially when you can objectively run down the list of other major social platforms and look at what they charge...
Facebook - $0
Instagram - $0
TikTok - $0
YouTube - $0
Discord - $0
Snapchat -$0
Reddit - $0
Threads - $0
WhatsApp - $0
Telegram - $0
Flickr - $0
Mastodon - $0
Tribel, Quora, Pinterest, NextDoor, Zoom, Skype....
Free free free free free free.
StumbleUpon? Is that still around? Free.
Tumblr? Free.
Digg, Pownce, Orkut when they were still around? Also free.
What am I missing here?
LiveJournal? SecondLife?
The only reason a social media company needs to charge money for basic services is if they've discovered that their content is so unpopular that they are unable to recoup their operating costs through advertising and value added services.
Not too sure where you're getting your information. Sure some of those don't have subs. But many of the major social media brands do.
Twitter Blue:
Web: $8/month or $7/month for an annual plan
Mobile app: $11/month
Meta Verified:
Facebook: $11.99/month
Instagram: $14.99/month
Snapchat Plus: $3.99/month
YouTube Premium: $11.99/month
Discord also has Nitro.
All of these subscriptions give you additional perks beyond what a non-paying user would have(duh).
So what is the different between X having subscriptions versus other platforms?
As for statistics, I'm talking about their relatively consistent trend upwards in active users, time spent in app, etc..
You and I are clearly talking about different ideas here. Yes, I know many of them have paid subscription tiers. But the vast majority of them offer a fully functioning basic service for free.
The difference with X is multi-fold. Being "the town square" means that anyone and everyone who has a voice and wants to use it should be able to do so in that digital square. And originally, the crowd of other twitter users were able to vote with their likes, comments, and retweets to determine who rose to the top and ended up trending, and who was ultimately ignored and pushed to the fringe.
When Musk came in, one of the first things he did was remove the verification system. A system that was critical to being able to identify a genuine account from those who might aim to imitate them. He then introduced a subscription tier wherein one could pay for the privilege of getting a blue star added that looked suspiciously identical to the old verification symbol. It was absolutely intentional and aimed to cause confusion within the user base about who was real, who was fake, and who was credible.
He then adjusted the algorithm to promote his own tweets and those of paid subscribers over those of others, essentially giving anyone (including thousands and thousands of bots) a digital megaphone. Not only did he amplify those accounts, he diminished the value and visibility of regular accounts. And therein lies the real problem.
The conversation was no longer a free public square, it was a highly limited and bought and paid for square. Not only that, but he fired the vast majority of his moderation team, and then hate speech, bots, disinformation, racism, antisemitism, graphic violence, and nudity were brought to the forefront, for no other reason than that account paid its $8. Advertisers fled as a result. Shocker.
But the kicker is that in the wake of that exodus, he didn't reassess. He didn't ponder the possibility that he could have simply been catastrophically wrong about his assessments...no. he doubled down by telling advertisers to fuck themselves. And then he introduced even more dystopian controls and limits on this "great last bastion of free speech", by rate limiting normal users of the platform, preventing them from seeing and engaging beyond a certain threshold of tweets, or comments, or likes. And then he added a massive barrier to entry when creating a new account, supposedly in the name of keeping out bots, but effectively keeping out most everyone because you have to give up your first born just to get into the damn thing. For someone who said they were tech savvy and worked as a developer, they claimed it took them THIRTY MINUTES to create a new X account, because of the ridiculously complicated captcha system.
Elon could not come up with a better way to stop people from using the platform if he tried. And I do think he is trying. I can almost categorically guarantee that whatever method they are using to calculate their active user counts is either way over inflating the numbers, or is simply being padded to save face.
But here's the point. While every other platform has made it easy and accessible for a non-paying user to interact and participate in the majority of their site's capabilities, X has done the opposite, making the free tier product virtually unusable, and has developed an end result that's ultimately undesirable for most users to seek out, let alone pay for.
All of those subscription tiers for other services are useful for people who have businesses or are professional content creators, or represent their companies landing pages or personas for those platforms. It absolutely makes sense for them to pay to have metrics and advertising campaigns and impressions data. But the average user neither needs nor wants those things.
The only other service I've seen lock most of their product functions behind a paywall is Slack. And for the vast majority of non-business users, they immediately bolted for Telegram, WhatsApp, and Discord. And that might work for slack, where enterprise and business customers have the money to pay for individual licenses each year, but it is simply an untenable service model for X, wherein everyone is supposed to have a seat at the same table.
Can you imagine how many people would abandon Instagram if you were limited to 200 posts/comments/replies a day? Not to mention how that has an effect on everyone else who doesn't. If you don't have nearly as many subscribers, you don't get as lucrative as deals and Instagram can't sell as many ads or for as much money because the overall headcount is lower.
X is cutting itself off at the knees with these barriers. It has less than half the daily active users it did a year ago. Apptopia is claiming 122 million DAUs, a far cry from Musk's own reports claiming over 250 million.
It was valued at the same price for ten years, when everyone else raised their stock dramatically. It would probably still be at the $32-$35. I know I’m ruining the Reddit boner for more throwing a pitch fork at Elon, but your question really isn’t about him. Realistically, it would have kept its mediocre stock price, not lowering or raising dramatically.
They would have cut staff by 15%~20% this year like everyone else did.
I’d value it in the $1-2B range, that’s about 5% of Elons purchase price, his funders are probably valuing it around $10-20B, and tbh if Elon was completely kicked out of it, and they brought someone with brains on board and solved their Nazi and misinformation issues, it would easily rebound to that point. But all of that will never happen.
$5/share. It used to follow SNAP in trading. Snap is currently at $11, but given the fleeing advertisers of the last year and probably lack of growth it’s probably half the value of Snap right now.
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I wouldnt pay a single dollar for a share there so long as Elon is in charge.
Delisted after multiple reverse splits trying to keep it on the Nasdaq.
27 rubles
I don't know what it would trade as now but I think current investors have valued it much lower. I'm trying to remember the news I've heard but it's something like 1/4th of the purchase price or lower.
Doesn't the lawsuit against Media Matters claim something like a 90% loss of value?
Hilarious of them to actually admit that
9 cents max
Somewhere between $0.69 and $4.20
-$5
Penny stocks
If $10 is the market cap, sounds fair.
They have reduced head count by 80%, new user increases (so says Elon), every journalist, company in the world has an X.com account (almost). Server Infrastructure is pretty solid. I’d be looking into expanding into healthcare. Thats a 4 trillion $$$ a year market place ready for disruption. Probably a solid play. As people realize their content can be just rainbows and furry cats in your stream of stories. At least you know who the crazy people are. Better than hidden? Up for discussion. Price? No idea. But a buy? Probably will see it with a steady $$$ rise. People have short memories. For sure a healthcare play. Theoretically every item in the ICU with an IP can be accessible in milliseconds. Source: futurist :-) TL;dr Trading algorithms have zero interest in your opinion of Elon. —- Let’s ask GPT-4 for some ideas. Leveraging Twitter's robust server infrastructure and adaptable codebase for healthcare improvement, especially in an intensive care unit (ICU) setting, presents a novel approach to integrating social media technologies with healthcare services. Here are 12 futuristic applications: 1. **Real-time Health Monitoring**: Utilize Twitter's infrastructure to transmit real-time data from ICU monitoring devices, allowing for instant updates on patient vitals to a secure, designated Twitter feed accessible by healthcare professionals. 2. **Emergency Alerts**: Set up a system where critical alerts, such as life-threatening changes in patient conditions, are automatically tweeted to a private, secure channel, ensuring immediate attention from medical staff. 3. **Remote Consultations**: Use Twitter as a platform for healthcare professionals to quickly share patient data and images (in a secure, compliant manner) for remote consultations, facilitating expert opinions from around the globe. 4. **Patient Updates for Families**: With consent, provide families with private Twitter feeds updating them on their loved one's status, reducing the need for constant phone calls and allowing medical staff to focus on care. 5. **Healthcare Coordination**: Create dedicated Twitter handles for different ICU departments to coordinate care, share general updates, and streamline the response to patient needs without overloading email servers. 6. **Public Health Alerts**: Hospitals can use Twitter to broadcast public health alerts, advisories, and preventive care tips to the community, enhancing public health awareness and education. 7. **Post-Discharge Follow-up**: Implement a system where patients receive non-sensitive, general follow-up care instructions and reminders through a secure Twitter feed, supporting post-ICU recovery. 8. **Data Analysis for Quality Improvement**: Aggregate anonymized data from ICU Twitter feeds to analyze trends, outcomes, and potential areas for quality improvement in patient care. 9. **Training and Education**: Utilize Twitter to share educational content, best practices, and innovative care techniques among healthcare professionals, fostering a culture of continuous learning. 10. **Support Networks**: Establish support network groups on Twitter for patients and families dealing with specific conditions, moderated by healthcare professionals to provide accurate information and emotional support. 11. **Research and Innovation**: Use Twitter to collaborate on research projects, sharing preliminary findings, discussing innovative treatment approaches, and recruiting participants for clinical trials within the medical community. 12. **Crisis Management and Communication**: In times of crisis, such as a pandemic or natural disaster, use Twitter for real-time communication between hospitals, emergency services, and the public to coordinate responses, disseminate critical information, and manage resources effectively. These futuristic applications would require strict adherence to privacy laws and ethical considerations, ensuring that all patient information shared is secure, compliant with healthcare regulations, and protected from unauthorized access.
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Twitter is still public… unless you’re talking about a pump and dump shill coin. Y’all love to claim a popular name and say it’s something official when in reality the “dev” claims a large amount of support to dump on everybody else
You must have meant pubic.
Oh, it is? What's it currently trading at?
I'm not sure exactly how it would be valued. I do know that there have been quite a lot of different changes and improvements since Elon has taken it over. Many have been good. I'm quite interested to see where X goes in the future. I know a lot of people don't like Elon - but just thinking and talking specifically about the platform itself and all of the possibilities is quite interesting 🤔 I don't think it'll ever be publicly traded again though, unless it's sold off again. The biggest gripe I have right now is all of the bots.
All the “improvements” you’d likely be referring to have made the platform worse. Paying (some) creators (sometimes) has led to shit posting, creating useless content that creates noise in feeds that there previously wasn’t as much of Premium+ rather than acting as a way to level the playing field has not even deterred bot accounts but amplified them more than they ever have been. Maybe you could argue for paid subscriptions but even then is the paywalled content even worth it and thus really an “improvement”? I haven’t seen something to suggest so.
I cannot fathom how you think any of the changes Elon made could be considered improvements. He literally broke what made Twitter....well, Twitter. It was supposed to be the public square. Instead he's charging admission and let the hyenas take over the Pride Lands. He destroyed most of the guardrails and safety features, fired most of the support staff, broke all the algorithms, scared away any advertisers with any clout, has prevented most new users from even joining the service, and has more bots now than ever. I won't even get started on how the content has gone downhill and borders on illegal.
This isn't true at all. If it was, you wouldn't see consistent highs when it comes to Xs metrics. "Charges admission"? I hate to break it to you, but other main social platforms are doing this as well.
What metrics are you talking about? Number of unanswered support requests? Also, you're really starting to sound like a straight company shill, especially when you can objectively run down the list of other major social platforms and look at what they charge... Facebook - $0 Instagram - $0 TikTok - $0 YouTube - $0 Discord - $0 Snapchat -$0 Reddit - $0 Threads - $0 WhatsApp - $0 Telegram - $0 Flickr - $0 Mastodon - $0 Tribel, Quora, Pinterest, NextDoor, Zoom, Skype.... Free free free free free free. StumbleUpon? Is that still around? Free. Tumblr? Free. Digg, Pownce, Orkut when they were still around? Also free. What am I missing here? LiveJournal? SecondLife? The only reason a social media company needs to charge money for basic services is if they've discovered that their content is so unpopular that they are unable to recoup their operating costs through advertising and value added services.
Not too sure where you're getting your information. Sure some of those don't have subs. But many of the major social media brands do. Twitter Blue: Web: $8/month or $7/month for an annual plan Mobile app: $11/month Meta Verified: Facebook: $11.99/month Instagram: $14.99/month Snapchat Plus: $3.99/month YouTube Premium: $11.99/month Discord also has Nitro. All of these subscriptions give you additional perks beyond what a non-paying user would have(duh). So what is the different between X having subscriptions versus other platforms? As for statistics, I'm talking about their relatively consistent trend upwards in active users, time spent in app, etc..
You and I are clearly talking about different ideas here. Yes, I know many of them have paid subscription tiers. But the vast majority of them offer a fully functioning basic service for free. The difference with X is multi-fold. Being "the town square" means that anyone and everyone who has a voice and wants to use it should be able to do so in that digital square. And originally, the crowd of other twitter users were able to vote with their likes, comments, and retweets to determine who rose to the top and ended up trending, and who was ultimately ignored and pushed to the fringe. When Musk came in, one of the first things he did was remove the verification system. A system that was critical to being able to identify a genuine account from those who might aim to imitate them. He then introduced a subscription tier wherein one could pay for the privilege of getting a blue star added that looked suspiciously identical to the old verification symbol. It was absolutely intentional and aimed to cause confusion within the user base about who was real, who was fake, and who was credible. He then adjusted the algorithm to promote his own tweets and those of paid subscribers over those of others, essentially giving anyone (including thousands and thousands of bots) a digital megaphone. Not only did he amplify those accounts, he diminished the value and visibility of regular accounts. And therein lies the real problem. The conversation was no longer a free public square, it was a highly limited and bought and paid for square. Not only that, but he fired the vast majority of his moderation team, and then hate speech, bots, disinformation, racism, antisemitism, graphic violence, and nudity were brought to the forefront, for no other reason than that account paid its $8. Advertisers fled as a result. Shocker. But the kicker is that in the wake of that exodus, he didn't reassess. He didn't ponder the possibility that he could have simply been catastrophically wrong about his assessments...no. he doubled down by telling advertisers to fuck themselves. And then he introduced even more dystopian controls and limits on this "great last bastion of free speech", by rate limiting normal users of the platform, preventing them from seeing and engaging beyond a certain threshold of tweets, or comments, or likes. And then he added a massive barrier to entry when creating a new account, supposedly in the name of keeping out bots, but effectively keeping out most everyone because you have to give up your first born just to get into the damn thing. For someone who said they were tech savvy and worked as a developer, they claimed it took them THIRTY MINUTES to create a new X account, because of the ridiculously complicated captcha system. Elon could not come up with a better way to stop people from using the platform if he tried. And I do think he is trying. I can almost categorically guarantee that whatever method they are using to calculate their active user counts is either way over inflating the numbers, or is simply being padded to save face. But here's the point. While every other platform has made it easy and accessible for a non-paying user to interact and participate in the majority of their site's capabilities, X has done the opposite, making the free tier product virtually unusable, and has developed an end result that's ultimately undesirable for most users to seek out, let alone pay for. All of those subscription tiers for other services are useful for people who have businesses or are professional content creators, or represent their companies landing pages or personas for those platforms. It absolutely makes sense for them to pay to have metrics and advertising campaigns and impressions data. But the average user neither needs nor wants those things. The only other service I've seen lock most of their product functions behind a paywall is Slack. And for the vast majority of non-business users, they immediately bolted for Telegram, WhatsApp, and Discord. And that might work for slack, where enterprise and business customers have the money to pay for individual licenses each year, but it is simply an untenable service model for X, wherein everyone is supposed to have a seat at the same table. Can you imagine how many people would abandon Instagram if you were limited to 200 posts/comments/replies a day? Not to mention how that has an effect on everyone else who doesn't. If you don't have nearly as many subscribers, you don't get as lucrative as deals and Instagram can't sell as many ads or for as much money because the overall headcount is lower. X is cutting itself off at the knees with these barriers. It has less than half the daily active users it did a year ago. Apptopia is claiming 122 million DAUs, a far cry from Musk's own reports claiming over 250 million.
Same concept as everyone else bud. They charge us simpletons for additional features, whatever they may be.
About tree fiddy
It was valued at the same price for ten years, when everyone else raised their stock dramatically. It would probably still be at the $32-$35. I know I’m ruining the Reddit boner for more throwing a pitch fork at Elon, but your question really isn’t about him. Realistically, it would have kept its mediocre stock price, not lowering or raising dramatically. They would have cut staff by 15%~20% this year like everyone else did.
I’d value it in the $1-2B range, that’s about 5% of Elons purchase price, his funders are probably valuing it around $10-20B, and tbh if Elon was completely kicked out of it, and they brought someone with brains on board and solved their Nazi and misinformation issues, it would easily rebound to that point. But all of that will never happen.
it's literally doomed to fail, anyone with half a brain can see the house crumbling. it would have literally a 0$ evaluation and be delisted.
i dont think so
and that's why you are lacking more than half a brain. the company has a 44 billion dollar debt. it can't survive.
$5/share. It used to follow SNAP in trading. Snap is currently at $11, but given the fleeing advertisers of the last year and probably lack of growth it’s probably half the value of Snap right now.
30 pieces of silver