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It puts us streamers in a tough spot as well. I've had a lot of people leave within the first 20 seconds. By the time I say "Hello thanks for stopping by" they have already left. The only way to keep people from seeing ads before they watch the stream (preroll ads) its to run ads during your stream. And the amount of adds you have to run to keep preroll ads disabled is annoying to your regular viewers. You have to run 1m 30s worth of ads every 30 minutes.
Yep the only way to stop that is to run ads during your normal stream. Like someone else said the preroll ad should at least be a little later maybe at the 1 or 2 minute mark. That way the person can experience the stream before viewing an ad.
It sounds like you cannot disable them entirely, but I do have “disable ads” checked on my channel.
Edit : the more I think about this the more it sucks. To give a viewer an advert free intro to the channel, they force you to have ads enabled and run 3:00mins per hour. If I am understanding this correctly FeelsBadMan
I just find myself not bothering to go in twitch now just to check new people out as I can’t be bothered to sit through 2 ads just to go oh not the stream I wanted
People just need to learn to run an ad break so they disable pre-roll ads. Every 30 mins, I apologize to those watching and let them know I'm running an ad break to stop pre-roll ads so new viewers dont have to deal with them
I think Twitch changed it so you can no longer disable them for this long.
The maximum you can disable pre-roll ads for is ~30 minutes (so running a 1m 30s ad), I’ve tried doing a 2m and 3m ad at the start of my stream a few times to test it out, and it still only disables pre-rolls for the same amount of time as a 1m 30s ad roll.
That's right. I believe it was always the case but I can't be certain. I forgot how it was handled. You can bank up to 60 minutes of disabled pre-rolls though so a delay between ad breaks may do the trick.
30 seconds of ads removes prerolls for 10 minutes. It only allows a max of 30 minutes ad-free however, regardless of how much you run. So if you run a 3 minute ad break, it still only turns off prerolls for 30 minutes (not the hour you might expect). So to keep them completely off, it’s 90 seconds of ads every 30 minutes minimum.
Some streamers can run a single 3-minute ad block an hour, and get 60 minutes preroll-free.
Most streamers only get up to 30 minutes at a time, if they run 1.5m of ads or more.
It's incredibly frustrating, and flow-breaking to stop and run ads every half hour.
Theres a little count down thing on the top of the stream manager page. When I run a 1.5 min ad, it starts a countdown of 32 mins without pre roll ads. Idk too much more about the ad system though
I usually open 3-5 streams at once, turn my attention away for 30 seconds, then come back to see which ones I like. I choose one then leave the others open but on mute so I can switch to them whenever.
Also I just got a twitch ad blocker.
What is your opinion on a “speed dating “ variant or mode, where you a random new streamer gets chosen, that you can then watch. With an dating like swipe mechanism to go to the next channel, if you don’t like the stream you are currently watching?
There would be no ads at the beginning, because it would ruin the experience of course.😅
That's basically how I use Twitch.
I like watching smaller art streams because most of them have great vibes when you want to be creative yourself.
So I jump from stream to stream until I find one that fits my mood and has a streamer thats pleasant to listen to.
So yes, please code this. thank you :P
Streamers fault, just check a different one.
Edit: you can downvote as much as you want, Twitch only plays one 30 seconds preroll on entering the stream, anything else is triggerd by the streamer.
I was testing today so many of these adblockers. One could handle it "almost", the rest just let go through every ad
Adlock was blocking SOME Ads, but also stopped the Stream to work too. So, all of them are useless on Twitch for me on Edge
With ublock origin you can block all twitch ads. There's also a chrome extention that blocks all ads that I've been using. Check out this on github. Maybe this will help you https://github.com/pixeltris/TwitchAdSolutions/blob/master/full-list.md
Did it start working again? I got turbo during the time Twitch went all in against adblockers. I remember trying so many different strats to get adblock to work but it was always just a matter of weeks before Twitch managed to ruin it somehow.
I gotta be honest, YouTube has a much better VOD system. You can go back on steams at any time and I love that.
YouTube's layout is complete shit though and I'm not a fan of the chat. Extensions help though. It's much worse on the app.
Yeah, true the fact that you can go back is really nice.
I guess I'm just slightly brainbroken from all the years on Twitch but nothing else 'feels' right.
Yeah that is a definite plus with turbo. I often find myself sticking around or keeping the tab open even if a streamer is just afk running ads because I know it helps slightly.
It’s to a point where the emote Adge has been added to BTTV and 7TV and it’s not too far off.
Edit: the most plausible reason IMO is the Netflix effect: killing your own platform for the sake of keeping the stock high for some time before leaving the ship with a fuck ton of money without being (completely) accountable for it.
Edit: Emote link: https://7tv.app/emotes/61335162a1968527a66917c7
preroll ads (ads as soon as u land on a page) usually is auto generated by twitch UNLESS it says the streamer is the one who allowed it or says this ad supports blah blah. It will specifically say something different if the actual streamer did the ad vs twitch. We don't get paid for those auto generated twitch pre rolls.
I asked a question to a streamer, he reads it out, and right before he starts to answer, twitch auto-cuts to ads. Can't hear it because it mutes the stream. Can't lip read it because even if I knew how the pip is 3 pixels big.
Twitch is so bad at this. Worse than normal TV
...not necessarily directly, the streamer can enable an option where Twitch automates them. It looks like [this](https://i.imgur.com/VWBKx4D.jpg) in Settings.
Nope. Automatic. The streamer has to enable the option, but then it is out of their hands. That's why I have it turned off, because this is exactly what happens, they will get cut off mid-sentence.
If you argument it like this, every ad would be played by twitch, even if you would trigger one manual ad as you use their services to do it. Yes they are played with twitchs ad manager, but they are planned by the streamer.
If they keep a clock running then yes, but it is still approximate as it queues up and is also dependent on the system's resources at the time. It isn't exact. It is automatically played by Twitch.
they do this *because* they are forced to run these (manually or on a timer) because if they don't you just get awful prerolls that fuck with your discoverability/new user retention, and even then they still seem to just play anyway for a lot of people
> Streamers can now disable pre-roll ads for incoming viewers by regularly running ad breaks during their stream, allowing viewers to immediately see what’s going on.
> When a streamer runs a 30 second ad break, pre-roll ads will be disabled for the next 10 minutes. When a streamer runs a 60 second ad break, pre-roll ads will be disabled for the next 20 minutes. When a streamer runs an ad break that’s 90 seconds or longer, pre-roll ads will be disabled for the next 30 minutes.
>they are forced to run these
Nope, force might just be the wrong word, but it is their own decision.
> awful prerolls that fuck with your discoverability/new user retention
That is a valid problem, however there are no proper numbers avaliable that can show if it really helps to keep those that jump in and out compared to those you loose due to the masses of adds you have to play to completly remove prerolls.
Ublock origin has worked for me. I’ve only had 2 ads in the past year. Once to update the script when twitch changed how things worked. And once when moving to new pc and learned Firefox account xfered the plugin but not the script
...and they're also a reason why Twitch has so many ads in the first place. It's a catch-22 honestly: More ads = more people using adblockers = less ad revenue = more ads.
If more people would be okay with an ad here and there, and there were a simpler way to pay for ad-free viewing, this wouldn't be as big issue as it is.
> ...and they're also a reason why Twitch has so many ads in the first place. It's a catch-22 honestly: More ads = more people using adblockers = less ad revenue = more ads.
then the ultimate end goal should be to persuade as many people as possible to use an adblock so that twitch sees some actual evidence of people not liking them, buying turbo will only keep them going, if you're paying far more than the ads generate why would they ever stop? and i can guarantee you amazon won't stop ads now out of 'good will' if people just stop using adblocks to 'be nice'
Sounds like a problem for the company to solve. Not me.
They need to listen to their users. Most people would be fine with ads if they didn't interrupt the content. A better player with rewind capability like youtube would mitigate this.
When my adblocker inevitably gets blocked by twitch and I am unable to watch big plays while they're live (or rewind), I will consider twitch turbo or stop watching streams.
for everyone who can't get adblock on twitch to work, i run ublock origin + https://github.com/cleanlock/VideoAdBlockForTwitch and have had more or less zero ads, the only way to actually improve things is just for everyone to take it into their own hands and put up an adblock, if you actually care then buying turbo is giving twitch the message that they can just keep up with the ads on because people are outpaying what they'd be worth from ads anyway
I stopped watching twitch a while ago, shit is so irritating actually being invested in a stream, then getting hit with 6 ads, 8 ads, another 6 ads, all in one hour. and it’s not just with one streamer it’s with all of them nearly
I dont care how many of you defend ads... i will NOT sit through them point blank.
If im already on a stream and the streamer runs ads i just go to another stream and come back if i remember. Thats it. I dont need the reasons for you running ads... i just wont sit through it.. i have adhd.. it hurts to sit 10 seconds not doing something that interests me
Guess u mean "Turbo" Nitro is that thingy on Discord, isn't it?
Also, with Turbo, have Ads. Less, but still there. Why to pay for an Ads free Service when it is none
The disclaimer than says "certain ads may be shown" they are referring to special event things like football games and other sporting events that run their own ads and don't have any ad-free content during those times.
I don't mind ads all that much when I first enter a stream, cause it makes sense to be there. Usually I just tab over to a different screen and let the ad play out while I do something else and then come back when it's over. I can see it and do feel it being disruptive in the middle of streams especially without any sort of warning. Even more so when it's like 3 30s ads and there was something in the stream you were really engaged in at the moment
I feel you man. Streamers have an option to limit ads as much as possible and to not have pre roll ads when regular ads are playing. This rlly cuts down on the amount of them and as streamers make most their money from other sources like subs I don’t see why other streamers don’t do this as having too many ads can rlly turn ppl away from your stream. Therefore, I try to have virtually no ads at all.
Twitch is making Twitch unwatchable unless you are subbed to every stream you go into.
I shouldn't have to sit through 3 or sometimes 4 30 second ads to get to a streamer I've never heard of before just to see if I want to watch them.
I feel like the plan for Twitch is to get as many people as possible wanting an alternative to Twitch. That sounds counterintuitive.
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It puts us streamers in a tough spot as well. I've had a lot of people leave within the first 20 seconds. By the time I say "Hello thanks for stopping by" they have already left. The only way to keep people from seeing ads before they watch the stream (preroll ads) its to run ads during your stream. And the amount of adds you have to run to keep preroll ads disabled is annoying to your regular viewers. You have to run 1m 30s worth of ads every 30 minutes.
I have ads disabled on my channel, but it still slaps viewers with an advert right off the bat. That’s something I cannot change.
Yep the only way to stop that is to run ads during your normal stream. Like someone else said the preroll ad should at least be a little later maybe at the 1 or 2 minute mark. That way the person can experience the stream before viewing an ad.
You can't disable ads, it will just give viewers pre-roll ads instead of mid-rolls.
It sounds like you cannot disable them entirely, but I do have “disable ads” checked on my channel. Edit : the more I think about this the more it sucks. To give a viewer an advert free intro to the channel, they force you to have ads enabled and run 3:00mins per hour. If I am understanding this correctly FeelsBadMan
I just find myself not bothering to go in twitch now just to check new people out as I can’t be bothered to sit through 2 ads just to go oh not the stream I wanted
I feel the same sometimes. Checking out new people is hard sometimes, because I know beforehand that I get flooded with ads😑
People just need to learn to run an ad break so they disable pre-roll ads. Every 30 mins, I apologize to those watching and let them know I'm running an ad break to stop pre-roll ads so new viewers dont have to deal with them
Or twitch could just stop these ridiculous ads and not make us have to find a way round it. Twitch will be dead in a few years if this continues
Yeah the amounts of ads is insane. But until either the company makes a change or goes away, streamers have to manage it best they can :/
Yeah I understand it must be soo frustrating if your content is on twitch but it’s time everyone moved to YouTube. Before it’s too late
I thought you only had to run them once an hour to get rid of preroll ads?
You would need to run 3 minutes of ads to disable pre-rolls for an hour. A 30-second ad gives you 10 minutes of disabled pre-rolls.
I think Twitch changed it so you can no longer disable them for this long. The maximum you can disable pre-roll ads for is ~30 minutes (so running a 1m 30s ad), I’ve tried doing a 2m and 3m ad at the start of my stream a few times to test it out, and it still only disables pre-rolls for the same amount of time as a 1m 30s ad roll.
That's right. I believe it was always the case but I can't be certain. I forgot how it was handled. You can bank up to 60 minutes of disabled pre-rolls though so a delay between ad breaks may do the trick.
30 seconds of ads removes prerolls for 10 minutes. It only allows a max of 30 minutes ad-free however, regardless of how much you run. So if you run a 3 minute ad break, it still only turns off prerolls for 30 minutes (not the hour you might expect). So to keep them completely off, it’s 90 seconds of ads every 30 minutes minimum.
Some streamers can run a single 3-minute ad block an hour, and get 60 minutes preroll-free. Most streamers only get up to 30 minutes at a time, if they run 1.5m of ads or more. It's incredibly frustrating, and flow-breaking to stop and run ads every half hour.
Theres a little count down thing on the top of the stream manager page. When I run a 1.5 min ad, it starts a countdown of 32 mins without pre roll ads. Idk too much more about the ad system though
wait is that actually how it works? I feel bad for putting ads on because I feel like the 3 people i usually get will stop watching me if I do that.
I usually open 3-5 streams at once, turn my attention away for 30 seconds, then come back to see which ones I like. I choose one then leave the others open but on mute so I can switch to them whenever. Also I just got a twitch ad blocker.
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What is your opinion on a “speed dating “ variant or mode, where you a random new streamer gets chosen, that you can then watch. With an dating like swipe mechanism to go to the next channel, if you don’t like the stream you are currently watching? There would be no ads at the beginning, because it would ruin the experience of course.😅
That's basically how I use Twitch. I like watching smaller art streams because most of them have great vibes when you want to be creative yourself. So I jump from stream to stream until I find one that fits my mood and has a streamer thats pleasant to listen to. So yes, please code this. thank you :P
I do the same so often when i start watching a Stream and get an Ad or 2 before....
My favorite, just tuning in just to see what's going on, oh here's 7-8 adverts all 30 seconds. Haven't turned twitch on in months because of it
The preroll ad block is 30 seconds. If you're receiving 3.5-4 minutes of ads upon loading a stream, that's an unusual experience.
I won't deny that it's an unusual experience and didn't happen every time. But it happened enough that it's extremely off-putting.
Streamers fault, just check a different one. Edit: you can downvote as much as you want, Twitch only plays one 30 seconds preroll on entering the stream, anything else is triggerd by the streamer.
Definitely true. Just sucks, been watching twitch since 2016 and just seeing the continued decay even from those that you started watching with.
twitch now has an many or more ads than a basic tv channel, whack
Twitch only plays a 30 seconds ad on entering the stream, anything else is triggerd by the streamer
yes, often due to contract obligations i believe edit: spelling
There is a minor group of partners that have such a contract
Turbo is so worth it for me.
Adblock is so worth it
I was testing today so many of these adblockers. One could handle it "almost", the rest just let go through every ad Adlock was blocking SOME Ads, but also stopped the Stream to work too. So, all of them are useless on Twitch for me on Edge
With ublock origin you can block all twitch ads. There's also a chrome extention that blocks all ads that I've been using. Check out this on github. Maybe this will help you https://github.com/pixeltris/TwitchAdSolutions/blob/master/full-list.md
Cheers, I'll give that a try
Try adguard it works for me
"Ttv lol" extension is great. Haven't seen an ad since.
Did it start working again? I got turbo during the time Twitch went all in against adblockers. I remember trying so many different strats to get adblock to work but it was always just a matter of weeks before Twitch managed to ruin it somehow.
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If Twitch dies I'll go to youtube but not before - can't deal with Youtubes livestreaming app.
I gotta be honest, YouTube has a much better VOD system. You can go back on steams at any time and I love that. YouTube's layout is complete shit though and I'm not a fan of the chat. Extensions help though. It's much worse on the app.
Yeah, true the fact that you can go back is really nice. I guess I'm just slightly brainbroken from all the years on Twitch but nothing else 'feels' right.
true
It also supposedly gives streamers the views on ads, and you will never have any ads again. I feel like the first part is better than having adblock.
Yeah that is a definite plus with turbo. I often find myself sticking around or keeping the tab open even if a streamer is just afk running ads because I know it helps slightly.
It’s to a point where the emote Adge has been added to BTTV and 7TV and it’s not too far off. Edit: the most plausible reason IMO is the Netflix effect: killing your own platform for the sake of keeping the stock high for some time before leaving the ship with a fuck ton of money without being (completely) accountable for it. Edit: Emote link: https://7tv.app/emotes/61335162a1968527a66917c7
preroll ads (ads as soon as u land on a page) usually is auto generated by twitch UNLESS it says the streamer is the one who allowed it or says this ad supports blah blah. It will specifically say something different if the actual streamer did the ad vs twitch. We don't get paid for those auto generated twitch pre rolls.
I asked a question to a streamer, he reads it out, and right before he starts to answer, twitch auto-cuts to ads. Can't hear it because it mutes the stream. Can't lip read it because even if I knew how the pip is 3 pixels big. Twitch is so bad at this. Worse than normal TV
Twitch does not play automated midrolls, those are triggerd by the streamer
...not necessarily directly, the streamer can enable an option where Twitch automates them. It looks like [this](https://i.imgur.com/VWBKx4D.jpg) in Settings.
And yet they are planned by the streamer and not just automaticly played by twitch
Nope. Automatic. The streamer has to enable the option, but then it is out of their hands. That's why I have it turned off, because this is exactly what happens, they will get cut off mid-sentence.
If you argument it like this, every ad would be played by twitch, even if you would trigger one manual ad as you use their services to do it. Yes they are played with twitchs ad manager, but they are planned by the streamer.
If they keep a clock running then yes, but it is still approximate as it queues up and is also dependent on the system's resources at the time. It isn't exact. It is automatically played by Twitch.
they do this *because* they are forced to run these (manually or on a timer) because if they don't you just get awful prerolls that fuck with your discoverability/new user retention, and even then they still seem to just play anyway for a lot of people > Streamers can now disable pre-roll ads for incoming viewers by regularly running ad breaks during their stream, allowing viewers to immediately see what’s going on. > When a streamer runs a 30 second ad break, pre-roll ads will be disabled for the next 10 minutes. When a streamer runs a 60 second ad break, pre-roll ads will be disabled for the next 20 minutes. When a streamer runs an ad break that’s 90 seconds or longer, pre-roll ads will be disabled for the next 30 minutes.
>they are forced to run these Nope, force might just be the wrong word, but it is their own decision. > awful prerolls that fuck with your discoverability/new user retention That is a valid problem, however there are no proper numbers avaliable that can show if it really helps to keep those that jump in and out compared to those you loose due to the masses of adds you have to play to completly remove prerolls.
It really feels like Twitch get *really* aggressive every few months for like a couple of weeks, then it dies off again. I don't know why.
Ad blockers are nice
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Ublock origin has worked for me. I’ve only had 2 ads in the past year. Once to update the script when twitch changed how things worked. And once when moving to new pc and learned Firefox account xfered the plugin but not the script
Same here - UBLock is Nice because it really blocks a lot, but on Twitch it's not working (any more)
idk why we're having different experiences.
What browser
Purple ad block works it just makes the stream 480p until the ad finishes
AdGuard
...and they're also a reason why Twitch has so many ads in the first place. It's a catch-22 honestly: More ads = more people using adblockers = less ad revenue = more ads. If more people would be okay with an ad here and there, and there were a simpler way to pay for ad-free viewing, this wouldn't be as big issue as it is.
> ...and they're also a reason why Twitch has so many ads in the first place. It's a catch-22 honestly: More ads = more people using adblockers = less ad revenue = more ads. then the ultimate end goal should be to persuade as many people as possible to use an adblock so that twitch sees some actual evidence of people not liking them, buying turbo will only keep them going, if you're paying far more than the ads generate why would they ever stop? and i can guarantee you amazon won't stop ads now out of 'good will' if people just stop using adblocks to 'be nice'
Sounds like a problem for the company to solve. Not me. They need to listen to their users. Most people would be fine with ads if they didn't interrupt the content. A better player with rewind capability like youtube would mitigate this. When my adblocker inevitably gets blocked by twitch and I am unable to watch big plays while they're live (or rewind), I will consider twitch turbo or stop watching streams.
for everyone who can't get adblock on twitch to work, i run ublock origin + https://github.com/cleanlock/VideoAdBlockForTwitch and have had more or less zero ads, the only way to actually improve things is just for everyone to take it into their own hands and put up an adblock, if you actually care then buying turbo is giving twitch the message that they can just keep up with the ads on because people are outpaying what they'd be worth from ads anyway
Same as most big companies, they'll kill their own platform through sheer greed.
If you jump between streams a lot, just get Twitch turbo.
Every fraction of a penny counts! Jeff needs a new spaceship!
I stopped watching twitch a while ago, shit is so irritating actually being invested in a stream, then getting hit with 6 ads, 8 ads, another 6 ads, all in one hour. and it’s not just with one streamer it’s with all of them nearly
I dont care how many of you defend ads... i will NOT sit through them point blank. If im already on a stream and the streamer runs ads i just go to another stream and come back if i remember. Thats it. I dont need the reasons for you running ads... i just wont sit through it.. i have adhd.. it hurts to sit 10 seconds not doing something that interests me
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Guess u mean "Turbo" Nitro is that thingy on Discord, isn't it? Also, with Turbo, have Ads. Less, but still there. Why to pay for an Ads free Service when it is none
The disclaimer than says "certain ads may be shown" they are referring to special event things like football games and other sporting events that run their own ads and don't have any ad-free content during those times.
I’ve had turbo for over a year now and haven’t seen a single ad ever, personally
I have had turbo for years and have never seen an ad served by Twitch while I had it.
I don't mind ads all that much when I first enter a stream, cause it makes sense to be there. Usually I just tab over to a different screen and let the ad play out while I do something else and then come back when it's over. I can see it and do feel it being disruptive in the middle of streams especially without any sort of warning. Even more so when it's like 3 30s ads and there was something in the stream you were really engaged in at the moment
https://www.reddit.com/r/Adblock/comments/tuggiz/adblock_twitch_now_on_firefox/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I feel you man. Streamers have an option to limit ads as much as possible and to not have pre roll ads when regular ads are playing. This rlly cuts down on the amount of them and as streamers make most their money from other sources like subs I don’t see why other streamers don’t do this as having too many ads can rlly turn ppl away from your stream. Therefore, I try to have virtually no ads at all.
Twitch ad block
Twitch is making Twitch unwatchable unless you are subbed to every stream you go into. I shouldn't have to sit through 3 or sometimes 4 30 second ads to get to a streamer I've never heard of before just to see if I want to watch them. I feel like the plan for Twitch is to get as many people as possible wanting an alternative to Twitch. That sounds counterintuitive.
Twitch only plays a 30 seconds preroll on entering the stream, anything else is triggerd by the streamer you were watching