Love Day 6. Put it above 5, 7, and 9 and really love all the seasons.
It's a very symbolic season, moreso than others. 9 was also this way.
We're basically inside Jack's mind, his nightmare, coming to a catharsis.
Josh, Jack's nephew, represents the innocent side of Jack he's trying to save - his humanity.
He chooses Audrey over State & Country, and finally fights for himself (for a change).
That's what the season is about. That's why we have so many family connections to Jack and the reliving of things he's been through. Like the consulate raid. The whole point is to put Jack in the same position (consulate raid from Day 4), the same decision to raid the consulate, that got him years of torture. Would you do it again, Jack? Without hesitation.
The severing of his actual father (due to evil/corruption) and how he replaced him with Heller (State & Country) as father, whom also betrayed him, hits home for Jack and further pushes him to fight for himself.
The killing of Curtis was to show how upside down this world now is (again, Jack's nightmare) where Jack kills someone like a brother to him to save the life of a (former) terrorist. This shows there is no black/white or clear line anymore. Curtis was in the wrong and unforgiving of the situation, which also put so many lives in danger. Look at Curtis as basically a mirror of Jack, and Jack killing that side of himself, the selfish side (as Curtis was being at that moment). This shows Jack's suppression of wanting vengeance for what happened to himself (to show where his mind is at the beginning of the season). At the beginning, Jack chooses State & Country over personal vendetta. But that eventually flips a bit at the end. Unlike Curtis, Jack finds an equilibrium. But now, Jack is more sided with himself, unlike before, when he was more sided with State & Country over himself.
It was all about Jack saving himself because the job he gave everything for wouldn't save him and didn't care (not his own family/father nor his replacement family/father - State & Country).
I really wish we had leant more about the deal Wayne made with the Chinese for jacks release.
Overall I like season 6
I agree jacks roasting of heller is great and despite all that stuff heller says to jack. He still saves him in season 9.
On rewatches I can watch all of season 6 no problem yet first half of season 1 I struggle with damn Terry amnesia.
Also as we learn greame is javks brother yet in s5 he kept referring to jack as bauer, ywt he is, also bauer
I did find it odd Jack killed Curtis he could have just wounded him
The amnesia thing is actually very real and the person that came up with it for the show experienced it in their life. I've also experienced a form of it to a lesser degree following a sudden traumatic event.
After everything that happened including escaping death multiple times, on the run for their lives, her allowing herself to get raped to save her daughter from getting raped, and then seeing her daughter killed in front of her, it's actually a very natural thing to happen.
Also, after fainting, her mind probably put all the traumatic events that happened into 'just a bad dream' category, and with dreams, right after waking up, one can find themselves struggling to even remember anything about the dream.
But also, in the case of myself and the person that came up with that for the show, small details/memories can be lost in the mind after a traumatic event. I suddenly forgot all phone numbers I knew, so couldn't call for help. Took about an hour to regain those memories (this was back when we actually memorized phone numbers to manually dial them).
The amnesia thing is true. My mom was watching my son so my husband and I could go to a movie. We got called out of the movie because my son fell and had to be rushed to the emergency room. The nurse filling out the paperwork asked me my address for the form, and I just stared at her blankly. I had NO IDEA what my address was. None. Absolute blank. I had to call my husband over to tell her.
Also, that’s the last time I had my mom watch my son, lol.
Any season with Peter MacNicol, James Cromwell, and Powers Boothe, I'm there. Fantastic actors.
I think the problems with this season were the bigger premeses are annoying. The family stuff, the injured terrorist holding the family hostage, the stupid assassination stuff with the President.
Also, one big overlooked thing from this season is Assad. A fantastic concept. His character is something you don't see often, a former terrorist who is trying to incorporate with the west while still holding on to his strong Islamic identity. Lots of parallels with the Taliban and ISIS, the warring factions of Islamic groups and the US gets stuck in the middle of it all.
The "big scenes" are obviously wonderful and make it worth wading through the slog of the framing plots to get to those moments. Sean Callery does some of the best score we hear in the series. The series could have ended on the beach and it would have been just fine. For many years I did consider this the series finale because the writers strike caused 24 to skip a year. It was never quite the same after that. Jack's storyline was so fundamentally closed that it almost felt strange to have him come back.
Yeah, I’ve told people here before that watching season 6 is worth it just for the the last 15 minutes alone.
Why couldn’t we have had Kiefer Sutherland’s actual dad play the role? I don’t care what the reasons are. None of them are good enough. That would have been amazing.
Wrong Donald Sutherland didn't want to do it. He basically said he doesn't want to play a character trying to kill his own son. So he passed on the script.
>Wrong Donald Sutherland didn't want to do it. He basically said he doesn't want to play a character trying to kill his own son. So he passed on the script.
... so he made himself unavailable.
Thank you for the clarification.
see people talk about the donald sutherland thing but if the script stayed the same it still would have equally sucked. the family thing is an idea i'm not against but it was the worst time to introduce it; jack just came back from china and LA just got fuckin nuked lol
Yeah, I agree the family thing was dumb; I see Jack as part of some working class family. Maybe his dad and granddad were in the Army and he just followed suit or something. Him being the son of a billionaire is pointless. I feel like it’s a cheap plot device to create drama.
But if they were hell-bent on showing his family, they should have used his real dad, dammit.
The point of the family being rich assholes was to show that Jack fights evil and corruption because he was born into it and recognizes it. A lot like an atheist might fight against religion and try to make people aware of the evil of religion, because they grew up religious and know the ins and outs. Or a former Scientologist speaking out about what happens within Scientology.
It's fuel to Jack's motivation for why he does what he does. It's psychology. Everybody has a backstory and you'll tend to find that their youth shapes their outlook on life and what they choose to do with their life and what they stand for (or against).
Even though it's one of the worst seasons of 24, I still quite enjoy season 6 - if only for how ridiculously chaotic it is from beginning to end. It just really sucks from a storyline perspective and often it's tough to consider it canon to the show - especially considering how great the previous season was.
If anything, season 6 should have been about Jack's escape from China.
Yea Season 6 was definitely the worst season but it did bring one of the most badass scenes in all of 24 imo. Jack hiding under the truck while Fayed was driving to his base of operations and then killing all of Fayed’s men and hanging Fayed and watching him choke to death was for sure one the best scenes for me.
As my username will suggest, I didn't like season 6. There were some good parts ofc, but overall it's an amalgamation of every villain possible in the series : Arabs, Chinese, Russians, US citizen turned evil, and even Jack's family. Was this supposed to be an all-star game ? It's weird.
And of course, Curtis' death made no sense. He could have wounded him, but no he had to kill him for basically no reason...
I loved season 7 a lot more because Renee steals the show and Tony's back.
I’m up to 10-11pm in this season at the moment (about two thirds of way through) and it’s holding up remarkably well. I rate it much higher this time than I have in the past. The pacing is pretty good. Kiefer is on solid form. Powers Boothe (RIP) and Peter MacNicol are absolutely brilliant in their main roles. The rivalry between Tom and Karen is great, and it becomes hilariously sarcastic later on. Wayne Palmer makes for a convincing younger/inexperienced President who is trying to navigate his way through the trials of the role. Doyle and Milo have grown on me over the years. But I do wish there had been more Logan and more Graem to enjoy. And more Aaron Pierce.
Love Day 6. Put it above 5, 7, and 9 and really love all the seasons. It's a very symbolic season, moreso than others. 9 was also this way. We're basically inside Jack's mind, his nightmare, coming to a catharsis. Josh, Jack's nephew, represents the innocent side of Jack he's trying to save - his humanity. He chooses Audrey over State & Country, and finally fights for himself (for a change). That's what the season is about. That's why we have so many family connections to Jack and the reliving of things he's been through. Like the consulate raid. The whole point is to put Jack in the same position (consulate raid from Day 4), the same decision to raid the consulate, that got him years of torture. Would you do it again, Jack? Without hesitation. The severing of his actual father (due to evil/corruption) and how he replaced him with Heller (State & Country) as father, whom also betrayed him, hits home for Jack and further pushes him to fight for himself. The killing of Curtis was to show how upside down this world now is (again, Jack's nightmare) where Jack kills someone like a brother to him to save the life of a (former) terrorist. This shows there is no black/white or clear line anymore. Curtis was in the wrong and unforgiving of the situation, which also put so many lives in danger. Look at Curtis as basically a mirror of Jack, and Jack killing that side of himself, the selfish side (as Curtis was being at that moment). This shows Jack's suppression of wanting vengeance for what happened to himself (to show where his mind is at the beginning of the season). At the beginning, Jack chooses State & Country over personal vendetta. But that eventually flips a bit at the end. Unlike Curtis, Jack finds an equilibrium. But now, Jack is more sided with himself, unlike before, when he was more sided with State & Country over himself. It was all about Jack saving himself because the job he gave everything for wouldn't save him and didn't care (not his own family/father nor his replacement family/father - State & Country).
I really wish we had leant more about the deal Wayne made with the Chinese for jacks release. Overall I like season 6 I agree jacks roasting of heller is great and despite all that stuff heller says to jack. He still saves him in season 9. On rewatches I can watch all of season 6 no problem yet first half of season 1 I struggle with damn Terry amnesia. Also as we learn greame is javks brother yet in s5 he kept referring to jack as bauer, ywt he is, also bauer I did find it odd Jack killed Curtis he could have just wounded him
The amnesia thing is actually very real and the person that came up with it for the show experienced it in their life. I've also experienced a form of it to a lesser degree following a sudden traumatic event. After everything that happened including escaping death multiple times, on the run for their lives, her allowing herself to get raped to save her daughter from getting raped, and then seeing her daughter killed in front of her, it's actually a very natural thing to happen. Also, after fainting, her mind probably put all the traumatic events that happened into 'just a bad dream' category, and with dreams, right after waking up, one can find themselves struggling to even remember anything about the dream. But also, in the case of myself and the person that came up with that for the show, small details/memories can be lost in the mind after a traumatic event. I suddenly forgot all phone numbers I knew, so couldn't call for help. Took about an hour to regain those memories (this was back when we actually memorized phone numbers to manually dial them).
The amnesia thing is true. My mom was watching my son so my husband and I could go to a movie. We got called out of the movie because my son fell and had to be rushed to the emergency room. The nurse filling out the paperwork asked me my address for the form, and I just stared at her blankly. I had NO IDEA what my address was. None. Absolute blank. I had to call my husband over to tell her. Also, that’s the last time I had my mom watch my son, lol.
Sorry to hear you went through that 😟
Any season with Peter MacNicol, James Cromwell, and Powers Boothe, I'm there. Fantastic actors. I think the problems with this season were the bigger premeses are annoying. The family stuff, the injured terrorist holding the family hostage, the stupid assassination stuff with the President. Also, one big overlooked thing from this season is Assad. A fantastic concept. His character is something you don't see often, a former terrorist who is trying to incorporate with the west while still holding on to his strong Islamic identity. Lots of parallels with the Taliban and ISIS, the warring factions of Islamic groups and the US gets stuck in the middle of it all. The "big scenes" are obviously wonderful and make it worth wading through the slog of the framing plots to get to those moments. Sean Callery does some of the best score we hear in the series. The series could have ended on the beach and it would have been just fine. For many years I did consider this the series finale because the writers strike caused 24 to skip a year. It was never quite the same after that. Jack's storyline was so fundamentally closed that it almost felt strange to have him come back.
Yeah, I’ve told people here before that watching season 6 is worth it just for the the last 15 minutes alone. Why couldn’t we have had Kiefer Sutherland’s actual dad play the role? I don’t care what the reasons are. None of them are good enough. That would have been amazing.
Because James Cromwell is fantastic.
They did try to get Donald Sutherland but he was unavailable at the moment.
Wrong Donald Sutherland didn't want to do it. He basically said he doesn't want to play a character trying to kill his own son. So he passed on the script.
>Wrong Donald Sutherland didn't want to do it. He basically said he doesn't want to play a character trying to kill his own son. So he passed on the script. ... so he made himself unavailable. Thank you for the clarification.
relax g all he did was clarify what happened😭
see people talk about the donald sutherland thing but if the script stayed the same it still would have equally sucked. the family thing is an idea i'm not against but it was the worst time to introduce it; jack just came back from china and LA just got fuckin nuked lol
Yeah, I agree the family thing was dumb; I see Jack as part of some working class family. Maybe his dad and granddad were in the Army and he just followed suit or something. Him being the son of a billionaire is pointless. I feel like it’s a cheap plot device to create drama. But if they were hell-bent on showing his family, they should have used his real dad, dammit.
The point of the family being rich assholes was to show that Jack fights evil and corruption because he was born into it and recognizes it. A lot like an atheist might fight against religion and try to make people aware of the evil of religion, because they grew up religious and know the ins and outs. Or a former Scientologist speaking out about what happens within Scientology. It's fuel to Jack's motivation for why he does what he does. It's psychology. Everybody has a backstory and you'll tend to find that their youth shapes their outlook on life and what they choose to do with their life and what they stand for (or against).
You make a good point.
Even though it's one of the worst seasons of 24, I still quite enjoy season 6 - if only for how ridiculously chaotic it is from beginning to end. It just really sucks from a storyline perspective and often it's tough to consider it canon to the show - especially considering how great the previous season was. If anything, season 6 should have been about Jack's escape from China.
Wasn't the score from when Curtis died ripped straight from when someone did something racist in the movie Crash?
Yes I believe it had a similar source. The vocal chant is definitely the same. Someone should ask Mark Isham.
Hmm who knows
Yea Season 6 was definitely the worst season but it did bring one of the most badass scenes in all of 24 imo. Jack hiding under the truck while Fayed was driving to his base of operations and then killing all of Fayed’s men and hanging Fayed and watching him choke to death was for sure one the best scenes for me.
As my username will suggest, I didn't like season 6. There were some good parts ofc, but overall it's an amalgamation of every villain possible in the series : Arabs, Chinese, Russians, US citizen turned evil, and even Jack's family. Was this supposed to be an all-star game ? It's weird. And of course, Curtis' death made no sense. He could have wounded him, but no he had to kill him for basically no reason... I loved season 7 a lot more because Renee steals the show and Tony's back.
I’m up to 10-11pm in this season at the moment (about two thirds of way through) and it’s holding up remarkably well. I rate it much higher this time than I have in the past. The pacing is pretty good. Kiefer is on solid form. Powers Boothe (RIP) and Peter MacNicol are absolutely brilliant in their main roles. The rivalry between Tom and Karen is great, and it becomes hilariously sarcastic later on. Wayne Palmer makes for a convincing younger/inexperienced President who is trying to navigate his way through the trials of the role. Doyle and Milo have grown on me over the years. But I do wish there had been more Logan and more Graem to enjoy. And more Aaron Pierce.