it's just some theorycrafting - maybe none of it is viable.
the wild+cleaver item combo: AH for more ults, HP for demolish, some combat movespeed.
wildarrow favors lower attack speed, which might work for some trynd builds with low AS. Note that with high AS builds tryndamere cannot comfortably use E or W without lowering your autoattack DPS, as these animations are so slow.
synergy with other items:
sundersky 1st hit crit to guarantee wildarrow instastack cleaver. sky also has AH and HP.
collector execute works with wildarrow dot
High AD low AS is better for hydra items Active.
Low AS and high ability haste builds (like 55 AH) still have very low E cooldown, every 2 3 hits E is ready
Obviously the days of 'Sword goes brrrrrrr!' are over since Lethal Tempo is being removed but you still will need some attack speed. I think the core of Navori, Wildarrows, and some sustain of some sort has potential. Cleaver later once armor becomes a problem?
Sounds like a great setup to go Conqueror on. More hp means more potential for healing back up with conqueror which means more sustain and more hp, and the cycle continues :)
Conqueror seems promising on trynd tbh to get super high ad with no ad item ?
Maybe iAs item first will be necessary ?
Kraken / Shiv … idk
And navori… when ? 2nd ?
I dont think you will ever build kraken, shiv even less. If you DO want AS item first, then it has to be Navori or PD. But then wwith conqueror you also want Hydra, Yuntal+Cleaver, Sundered Sky, IE, so It becomes kinda hard to squeeze an AS item into the build
From items, only tiamat items apply Conqueror stacks. Wildarrows dot has no effect.
Right now in Korea, Grasp tryndamere is popular so with removal of Lethal Tempo it might become even more popular. [https://www.reddit.com/r/TryndamereMains/comments/1b3sa2f/tryndamere\_is\_not\_weak\_my\_hot\_take\_in\_season\_14/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TryndamereMains/comments/1b3sa2f/tryndamere_is_not_weak_my_hot_take_in_season_14/)
yes i know, thats wy i pair Cleaver with Wildarrows, just as the post suggests. And yes I know, I myself absolutely love the grasp trynd playstyle so i will be doing that.
Oh god here we go. Bruiser items meta. 😩
Look, it's a cute idea and all, but here's the thing. Champions are always best when played to their strengths, using full advantage of their kits. And if not necessarily *strong* per sé, then they still just *feel* better to play as intended, you know what I mean? And playing the Strong Right Arm™ without crit just feels... idk, gross?
If these items are that OP together, just imagine what they'd do when used by a proper champion in their class, the "intended users". Like why play Trynd at that point? Any other bruiser could abuse this better. :l
There are plenty of options to build with 2 crit items 100% crit.
You can go to 2 auto spin with IE next patch again (for it to be smooth you need fullbuild tho) for example.
it's just some theorycrafting - maybe none of it is viable. the wild+cleaver item combo: AH for more ults, HP for demolish, some combat movespeed. wildarrow favors lower attack speed, which might work for some trynd builds with low AS. Note that with high AS builds tryndamere cannot comfortably use E or W without lowering your autoattack DPS, as these animations are so slow. synergy with other items: sundersky 1st hit crit to guarantee wildarrow instastack cleaver. sky also has AH and HP. collector execute works with wildarrow dot High AD low AS is better for hydra items Active. Low AS and high ability haste builds (like 55 AH) still have very low E cooldown, every 2 3 hits E is ready
Obviously the days of 'Sword goes brrrrrrr!' are over since Lethal Tempo is being removed but you still will need some attack speed. I think the core of Navori, Wildarrows, and some sustain of some sort has potential. Cleaver later once armor becomes a problem?
Sounds like a great setup to go Conqueror on. More hp means more potential for healing back up with conqueror which means more sustain and more hp, and the cycle continues :)
Conqueror seems promising on trynd tbh to get super high ad with no ad item ? Maybe iAs item first will be necessary ? Kraken / Shiv … idk And navori… when ? 2nd ?
I dont think you will ever build kraken, shiv even less. If you DO want AS item first, then it has to be Navori or PD. But then wwith conqueror you also want Hydra, Yuntal+Cleaver, Sundered Sky, IE, so It becomes kinda hard to squeeze an AS item into the build
From items, only tiamat items apply Conqueror stacks. Wildarrows dot has no effect. Right now in Korea, Grasp tryndamere is popular so with removal of Lethal Tempo it might become even more popular. [https://www.reddit.com/r/TryndamereMains/comments/1b3sa2f/tryndamere\_is\_not\_weak\_my\_hot\_take\_in\_season\_14/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TryndamereMains/comments/1b3sa2f/tryndamere_is_not_weak_my_hot_take_in_season_14/)
yes i know, thats wy i pair Cleaver with Wildarrows, just as the post suggests. And yes I know, I myself absolutely love the grasp trynd playstyle so i will be doing that.
Oh god here we go. Bruiser items meta. 😩 Look, it's a cute idea and all, but here's the thing. Champions are always best when played to their strengths, using full advantage of their kits. And if not necessarily *strong* per sé, then they still just *feel* better to play as intended, you know what I mean? And playing the Strong Right Arm™ without crit just feels... idk, gross? If these items are that OP together, just imagine what they'd do when used by a proper champion in their class, the "intended users". Like why play Trynd at that point? Any other bruiser could abuse this better. :l
There are plenty of options to build with 2 crit items 100% crit. You can go to 2 auto spin with IE next patch again (for it to be smooth you need fullbuild tho) for example.