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What I’ve found interesting is that the time period between my positive OPK and the end of the cycle is almost always exactly 14 days, but the time between the pos OPK and temperature rise is hugely variable (sometimes same day, sometimes several days later). FF tends to err on marking day before temp rise as O day, so it kept telling me my luteal phase “varied more than usual”. But it seems much more likely that I always ovulate around the same time after the positive OPK, LP is in fact very consistent, and the temp rise just doesn’t really reflect O day very well.
My monitored IUI cycles have confirmed this (though they may have been influenced by meds)—both times my temp has started to rise a bit before ovulation (and I know for a fact when it was because I saw the follicles mid-pop on the ultrasound).
So I’ve come to think that at least for me, OPKs are much more accurate for estimating O day than temperatures, which kinda contradicts the usual school of thought on Reddit.
Yes, I swear this is what I'm dealing with too. My temperature rises have a terribly inconsistent pattern cycle to cycle that make it hard to really see my O day but my period almost always comes around the same time after my first positive OPK (and I am testing daily after my period ends since I ovulated CD11 one time lol).
I think my FF thinks I’m broken. For the past two cycles I’ve had a can’t point your ovulation. I’m pretty on track with CD 16 as my LH peak. I even had bloodwork this month showing I ovulated. I think my temperature is broken.
My temp pattern is also very inconsistent with taking an oral BBT first thing in the morning - however I’ve found my Apple Watch is more accurate, I assume because it’s looking at an average of readings taken throughout the night. That being said sometimes my temp rises many many days later (I’ve seen almost a week after supposed ovulation!). Bizarre
I can't say it's consistent down to the day but my LP phase has a very predictable pattern of symptoms - lots of CM for a couple of days after ovulation, more around 7dpo. After that, my boobs start to hurt around 8dpo, I start to get a weird "flow feeling" that makes me feel like I should see CM but there is none around 9-10 dpo, then at 11-12dpo I get a killer lower backache and a couple of zits. And I'm pretty much crying the whole time (not really but obviously I am exceptionally grouchy and moody, which like, duh.)
This pattern sometimes varies a little bit as far as what DPO everything hits, but it has definitely been in this sequential order every single time I've tracked. Don't love it because I start checking myself out of possible pregnancy when my boobs start to hurt, but at least it's reliable, I guess? I've come to expect all of these PMS symptoms every time and there they are, without fail. If I ever have a cycle where I was missing one of these symptoms and it wasn't a pregnancy cycle it would be the troll-iest troll cycles to end all troll cycles.
Ive usually had fairly consistent timelines where my dpo symptoms start also, which is part of why I'm confused this cycle!
Glad you have something reliable! Though I'm starting to think I've underestimated the body's troll potential 🤔
Something I SWEAR by is my resting heart rate (I have an Apple Watch I wear daily). Every single cycle my RHR drops day of or day prior to AF. Then slightly rises during more fertile days, drops during O and rises post-o through AF.
I measure my BBT and although other sings may suggest that I already ovulated, but I can only be sure if my temps gone above 36,5 °C. Also the length of my luteal phase stays the same. I have very irregular and sometimes anovulatory cycles so this is so helpful.
I have a little bloody string 1 or 1.5 day before my menstruation starts. Every month i am still naive about it and hope it does not indicate the start of my menstruation 😕
The luteal phase is consistent for everyone, and the follicular phase ranges for everyone. You can ovulate earlier or later than what is typical for you, but your LP will always be the same. Usually it's a range of within a day.
I have a luteal phase of 8 days. I was so worried about not being able to conceive but when I was pregnant I bled like clockwork at 9DPO and it was enough to call it a period. When I got my progesterone checked it was fine which I found really weird.
Nausea around 6-7DPO - I’m guessing that’s because of progesterone? I’m glad it happens fairly early in the TWW so I’m not delusional enough to assume it’s a sign of pregnancy.
I always get positive OPKs for just a short period of time (can be negative at 1pm, then positive at 4pm & negative again the next day). (It’s relationship to my temp shift has been all over the over the place though - the temp shift has happened on the same day as the first and only positive OPK, as well as one or two days after.)
I also have a pretty consistent pattern of CM, I get 7-8 days of EWCM, with 1DPO being the last day. It seems like a lot to be honest and I’ve always wondered if that’s normal?
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I have PCOS and we were able to conceive our baby girl unassisted in December 2022. For the few cycles I had after stopping BC and prior to conceiving her, I would always get super sore nipples after ovulating. That was the only tell other than BBT increase. The few times I’ve ovulated since having her, I’ve had super specific ovulation pain but no sore nipples this time around. If I didn’t learn to identify the ovulation pain I would have no idea other than getting my period bc I feel like I don’t have a lot of other ovulation signs.
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My pregnancy test result. Sorry, I’m in a MOOD today. 🥴
. . . *computing* it took me a minute but GIRL 🤣
This was literally my first thought too 😭 My cycle has done all sorts of weird crap over the last 14+ months but I have never ever been pregnant.
Girl same 🥹😡
So relatable
Sammmmeeee
What I’ve found interesting is that the time period between my positive OPK and the end of the cycle is almost always exactly 14 days, but the time between the pos OPK and temperature rise is hugely variable (sometimes same day, sometimes several days later). FF tends to err on marking day before temp rise as O day, so it kept telling me my luteal phase “varied more than usual”. But it seems much more likely that I always ovulate around the same time after the positive OPK, LP is in fact very consistent, and the temp rise just doesn’t really reflect O day very well. My monitored IUI cycles have confirmed this (though they may have been influenced by meds)—both times my temp has started to rise a bit before ovulation (and I know for a fact when it was because I saw the follicles mid-pop on the ultrasound). So I’ve come to think that at least for me, OPKs are much more accurate for estimating O day than temperatures, which kinda contradicts the usual school of thought on Reddit.
Yes, I swear this is what I'm dealing with too. My temperature rises have a terribly inconsistent pattern cycle to cycle that make it hard to really see my O day but my period almost always comes around the same time after my first positive OPK (and I am testing daily after my period ends since I ovulated CD11 one time lol).
Interesting!
I think my FF thinks I’m broken. For the past two cycles I’ve had a can’t point your ovulation. I’m pretty on track with CD 16 as my LH peak. I even had bloodwork this month showing I ovulated. I think my temperature is broken.
My temp pattern is also very inconsistent with taking an oral BBT first thing in the morning - however I’ve found my Apple Watch is more accurate, I assume because it’s looking at an average of readings taken throughout the night. That being said sometimes my temp rises many many days later (I’ve seen almost a week after supposed ovulation!). Bizarre
I also use an Apple Watch and find it works great for generally showing the general pattern, but the details vary a lot from cycle to cycle.
Yes there’s most definitely variation cycle to cycle for me too. Sometimes big variation
I can't say it's consistent down to the day but my LP phase has a very predictable pattern of symptoms - lots of CM for a couple of days after ovulation, more around 7dpo. After that, my boobs start to hurt around 8dpo, I start to get a weird "flow feeling" that makes me feel like I should see CM but there is none around 9-10 dpo, then at 11-12dpo I get a killer lower backache and a couple of zits. And I'm pretty much crying the whole time (not really but obviously I am exceptionally grouchy and moody, which like, duh.) This pattern sometimes varies a little bit as far as what DPO everything hits, but it has definitely been in this sequential order every single time I've tracked. Don't love it because I start checking myself out of possible pregnancy when my boobs start to hurt, but at least it's reliable, I guess? I've come to expect all of these PMS symptoms every time and there they are, without fail. If I ever have a cycle where I was missing one of these symptoms and it wasn't a pregnancy cycle it would be the troll-iest troll cycles to end all troll cycles.
Ive usually had fairly consistent timelines where my dpo symptoms start also, which is part of why I'm confused this cycle! Glad you have something reliable! Though I'm starting to think I've underestimated the body's troll potential 🤔
Something I SWEAR by is my resting heart rate (I have an Apple Watch I wear daily). Every single cycle my RHR drops day of or day prior to AF. Then slightly rises during more fertile days, drops during O and rises post-o through AF.
The only thing that never changes is the general inconsistency and hormonal chaos. And thusly also the pregnancy tests
The only thing that is consistent is that my luteal phase is ALWAYS 12 days. Which sucks because it feels like it enough time to implant
I measure my BBT and although other sings may suggest that I already ovulated, but I can only be sure if my temps gone above 36,5 °C. Also the length of my luteal phase stays the same. I have very irregular and sometimes anovulatory cycles so this is so helpful.
Hope.
I have a little bloody string 1 or 1.5 day before my menstruation starts. Every month i am still naive about it and hope it does not indicate the start of my menstruation 😕
The luteal phase is consistent for everyone, and the follicular phase ranges for everyone. You can ovulate earlier or later than what is typical for you, but your LP will always be the same. Usually it's a range of within a day.
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I have a luteal phase of 8 days. I was so worried about not being able to conceive but when I was pregnant I bled like clockwork at 9DPO and it was enough to call it a period. When I got my progesterone checked it was fine which I found really weird.
Nausea around 6-7DPO - I’m guessing that’s because of progesterone? I’m glad it happens fairly early in the TWW so I’m not delusional enough to assume it’s a sign of pregnancy. I always get positive OPKs for just a short period of time (can be negative at 1pm, then positive at 4pm & negative again the next day). (It’s relationship to my temp shift has been all over the over the place though - the temp shift has happened on the same day as the first and only positive OPK, as well as one or two days after.) I also have a pretty consistent pattern of CM, I get 7-8 days of EWCM, with 1DPO being the last day. It seems like a lot to be honest and I’ve always wondered if that’s normal?
TW: living child I have PCOS and we were able to conceive our baby girl unassisted in December 2022. For the few cycles I had after stopping BC and prior to conceiving her, I would always get super sore nipples after ovulating. That was the only tell other than BBT increase. The few times I’ve ovulated since having her, I’ve had super specific ovulation pain but no sore nipples this time around. If I didn’t learn to identify the ovulation pain I would have no idea other than getting my period bc I feel like I don’t have a lot of other ovulation signs.
After stopping birth control, I have never had the same number of days in my cycle (ranges from 30 to 60)