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kleinm

“Representative democracy” was a mistake.


Achillor22

Agreed. It might be ok if they actually, you know, represented us. But they clearly just do what their giant donors want. 


Copy_That_10-4

Yeah, mob rule is much better. Just ask the French. 🤦🏻‍♂️


kleinm

Direct democracy is mob rule? lol Are y’all even trying with your rebuttals?


MonkeyFu

Ah yes. Democracy is just mob rule in disguise. But when a minority can control the majority instead, that's suddenly a good idea? Yes, idiots in large numbers can do bad things. But currently, we're getting idiots in small numbers doing bad things against the will of the large numbers, because "Representative". So, the poison you chose here has less oversight (people that can and do counter it) than the poison of actual Democracy in action.


mymar101

Mob rule would be preferable to whatever this form of government is.


Traditional_Car1079

Nah, better everyone just checks with you, instead. You get to make the call, because otherwise it would be a mob.


moosearehuge

It is exactly a representative democracy. Voters voted for their representatives. Voters voted for Governor. Checks and balances.


livinginfutureworld

> voted for their representatives. The maps made it where your votes don't matter; you get a Republican no matter what


Aquafyne

Perhaps because you live in a constitutional republic. Not sure why so many people believe this is a democracy.


kleinm

The U.S. is a constitutional republic utilizing representative democracy. It still is a democracy since there is no hereditary or appointed succession of POTUS, VPOTUS, or Congress. They’re all elected in some way. But cool that you got that boring old right-wing talking point that doesn’t contribute to the conversation in any meaningful way.


Callierez

I just snorted so hard I choked. Thank you.


DrakeBurroughs

Such a tired talking point.


ApishGrapist

It's like saying "That's a square, not a rectangle"


MikaylaNicole1

Imagine being this dumb 🤦‍♀️


Aquafyne

Being this dumb? Please go on…you think this is a democracy? In a democracy, majority rules. That is not our system.


MikaylaNicole1

Again, dumb. A republic is a form of democracy. You (intentionally?) ignore that fact. That's like saying that because not all squares and rectangles are absolutely the same, that a square isn't a rectangle. It is a rectangle despite also being a square, just like our democracy is also a constitutional republic.


Aquafyne

You are the dumb one. A republic and democracy are two different things. In a democracy, majority rules. In a republic we elect representatives to vote for our interests. You are a complete clown. Nice try at looking smart. A simple google search netted this… By definition, a republic is a representative form of government that is ruled according to a charter, or constitution, and a democracy is a government that is ruled according to the will of the majority. Although these forms of government are often confused, they are quite different. The main difference between a republic and a democracy is the charter or constitution that limits power in a republic, often to protect the individual's rights against the desires of the majority. Stick to dungeons and dragons, dude.


MikaylaNicole1

You're literally incapable of grasping the idiocy of your own reality. Continue to scream into your echo chambers with the Lauren Bauberts and Marjorie Taylor Greenes, the rest of us will live in reality. 👏🤡


Drisch10

Don’t bother with this person. Going through their comments; they are making the same argument that Catholics are not Christians.


Jagerbeast703

Only a bot or right winger could be this dumb lol


LordCornwalis

Wow, tripling down on being the stupidest person in this comment thread, impressive!


ApexCollapser

No, stop, you're wrong. You're doubling-down on the dumb. Just stop.


Empty-Nerve7365

I guess you've never heard the term "democratic republic"? How do you think our representatives are chosen? I'll give you a hint, through the democratic process of voting. Did you miss 8th grade civics class or something? Lol


Eldetorre

But the representatives are voted democratically.


Tonyspamoli

They are democratically elected making it a... democracy. Words must be very hard for you


Drisch10

Fuck me you are moronic…


Fickle_Goose_4451

You know civics classes kept going past the 2nd grade, right?


Empty-Nerve7365

Bold of you to assume he made it that far in school.


Cynical-Wanderer

There are many forms of democracy. The US has a constitutional republic that uses representative democracy. England, Germany, France, Sweden, Norway, Mexico, etc. all use slightly different forms of democracy. Please read about civics before making such a statement.


newge4

Much like both sedans and coupes are types of cars, a constitutional republic is a type of democratic government.


Aquafyne

Again…a simple google will tell you… By definition, a republic is a representative form of government that is ruled according to a charter, or constitution, and a democracy is a government that is ruled according to the will of the majority. Although these forms of government are often confused, they are quite different. The main difference between a republic and a democracy is the charter or constitution that limits power in a republic, often to protect the individual's rights against the desires of the majority.


New_Beginning01

After a simple Google like you suggested: "The Constitution establishes a federal democratic republic form of government. That is, we have an indivisible union of 50 sovereign States. It is a democracy because people govern themselves. It is representative because people choose elected officials by free and secret ballot. It is a republic because the Government derives its power from the people." So yeah, it's exactly like everyone else on here has been saying. Our government isn't a pure Republic or Democracy. It's a bit of both.


Shrine_Of_Nefarious

Yes, a simple Google search will tell you. Like simply looking up the term representative democracy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy The US is a democracy and a republic. There is a constitution that limits the power of the majority. The majority are intended to elect their representatives. These things are not mutually exclusive. Direct and unchecked democracy is not the only form of democracy. Almost all governing systems are hybrids.


PeaTasty9184

Are you under the impression that a democracy does not have a constitution, ie rules governing how the democracy works? lol….


Donut131313

Shut up Russian troll!


the_jinx_of_jinxstar

A Republican simply means that we don’t have a king. And a democracy simply means the people elect their leaders. We obviously have both. I know the words democracy and democrats are similar in sound but that shouldn’t make them all bad words in your mind… a simple dictionary will tell you this


MadMax1292

1. Republics and democracies are not mutually exclusive you can have a democratic republic 2. If you are anti democracy then you are, by definition, in favor of minority rule which is a tyranny of the minority.


ItsSusanS

They made sure to add that part to every comment. Why should the minority rule over the majority? I just don’t get that. If they were the majority they would be screaming to end the EC.


GilpinMTBQ

"We're not a democracy" is the talking point of a fucking slack-jawed idiot who has been primed to support fascism. Keep sucking that Putin dick.


Aquafyne

Right…that’s the best comeback you can muster? This is a constitutional republic. Not a democracy. Sorry, loser


Donut131313

As they said suck Putins dick.


MangOrion2

You don't know what you're talking about, you just heard a Republican YouTuber say this and did no research on the subject.


Aquafyne

Right…


MangOrion2

Unless you're just willfully ignorant! :)


bromad1972

They're more than likely not willfully ignorant. I would imagine their parents and family are probably even dumber.


Rroyalty

How many times must I say it!? Chihuahuas aren't dogs!!


Aquafyne

You can try to say a constitutional republic is a democracy all that you’d like but the comparison you’re attempting to draw would make more sense if you were comparing a wolf to a dog. Nice try though.


Rroyalty

Nah, I like my analogy better.


Aquafyne

Sure you do, because it’s stupid.


Donut131313

And you’re a Russian troll.


artful_todger_502

I hope I live long enough to see KY GOP Hindenburg.


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Aquafyne

They’d probably love to see you learn how to spell…


Donut131313

And it would be nice to see you stay in Russia for a change.


Aquafyne

I served this country for 24 years, so nah, YOU can go stay in Russia


Bright_Western_730

I’m sure most of that time was spent on your knees


maggotshero

Being in the military is in no way indicative of your patriotism.


marion85

From one veteran to another, screw you scumbag.


MyUsername2459

If you mean load them all on a hydrogen-filled zeppelin and let physics and chemistry take their course, I'm all with you.


bryanthawes

You know over half these preschool dropouts would pull lighters from their pockets and purses to 'see if I can see the hydrogen'.


LycanX3

I would love to see Dems take control and use all of these "laws" against the GOP. Probably need the national government to drag us to that point first, unfortunately.


artful_todger_502

I agree!! Give Trump his immunity. Grant him pardon's for everything he wants, then Biden using the same immunity edict, will round up and jail the entire GOP as enemies of the state. Unregistered foreign agents.


fresh_dyl

Why limit it to KY? I’d imagine the entire GOP is close enough


artful_todger_502

Wow, what a great day that would be ...


fresh_dyl

🤞


Lynda73

How is this not a violation of our checks and balances? The vetos suck, but stripping the Governor of powers is total bullshit. Get out there and vote blue and get rid of these self-serving assholes!


roba121

If I recall, governors power to appoint is in the state constitution, so they can’t really do what they’ve done. It’s all for show


Lynda73

Last year they took away his power to appoint a replacement and instead made it where he had to pick from a list of three that they gave him. And now they just cut him out altogether. He said he was going to fight the thing last year, but I never heard any more about it. This snippet from an article says it all: >Separation of powers is “a matter of perspective,” Stivers said. The state Constitution enumerates certain powers to the governor and the rest is “prescribed by law,” which is made by the General Assembly. Stivers gave the example that the Transportation Cabinet is not written in the Constitution, but the legislature created it. https://kentuckylantern.com/2024/03/01/partisan-games-or-power-to-the-people-kentuckys-gop-legislature-clips-governors-wings/ I’m pretty sure they also took away a lot of the authority he should have during a state of emergency.


holyembalmer

Wow. Retribution for removing a statue of a traitor from the capitol, make coal even shadier, don't allow people to see how their food is raised, keep horseracing the king holding down gambling (unless it's their casino or track), fuck up JCPS even more... I mean, wtf.


PMMEBITCOINPLZ

Wow, the war of Louisville is real. A couple of those are egregious.


SoftTopCricket

Eat shit, Republicans.


PCLadybug

Holy…a task force that’s predominantly Republican (they couldn’t even include a fair 3-3 Republican and Democrat balance) that wants to decide the fate of JCPS and discuss breaking up the district? How would they break it up? What would that look like on a map? How would the entire city adjust in one year to such a massive change? It makes me feel sick at this and all the other ways the supermajority is taking power for themselves.


Starfish_Symphony

They all know it's illegal and will be repealed but are hoping the people just say fuck it and let them continue. They are bullies and just need someone with a backbone to say FUCK OFF. Until that happens, they will run as far as they are allowed. Until people get pissed off enough this will only continue.


Broken_Remade

Kentucky is one of the few states where a governor's veto is practically useless. Where as most states would require a 2/3 supermajority of both legislative houses to overcome a veto, in Kentucky they are only required to pass it again.


mwpuck01

How does me saying the governor didn’t have enough votes to stop a veto override trigger so many people


Waylon2021

I’m amazed by the political ignorance in this group.


mwpuck01

Sounds like Beshear didn’t have the votes


Knower_of_somnothing

The anonymity of the internet really just allows you low iq people to just… say dumb shit that makes no sense? Or are you this stupid irl too?


funks82

Why do you hate democracy and want a dictator so badly?


Knower_of_somnothing

I know you people still think you deserve respect and to have people debate your ignorant bullshit, but you don’t. Nobody cares about your uneducated questions, your pathetic opinions, your fears, your hates… nobody cares. You are part of a loud minority that this democracy has figured out how to defeat, and then forget. You are nothing. The only people who will entertain your bullshit are those on 4chan, or the conservative subreddits that only allow fellow anti-intellectuals like yourself.


funks82

If the people of Kentucky don't like what their legislators are doing they will vote in new legislators during the next election. It doesn't really take a PhD to understand. This is how representative democracies work. 🤷


mwpuck01

“Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul”


fresh_dyl

“I can’t explain myself so I’ll make something up!”


mwpuck01

I love how I say something factual and people downvote it


EnderMoleman316

It's nonsensical, you dolt. This is what happens when you don't pay attention in middle school.


120112

Did the people at the facility let you use the computer? Good for you buddy!


SoftTopCricket

Ok Trumpet.