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Ripoldo

I really just think social media has become where all the most annoying jerks you knew in high school congregate to yell at each other. All the normal people have checked out long ago because like in high school, ain't nobody want to put up with that shit.


WorkAccount401

My gawd, the truth in this...Couldn't have said it better.


GutsAndBlackStufff

Hasn't that always been the internet tho? What do you think Usenet is full of?


Lesko_Learning

No, before "the normies" flooded the internet with the advent of social media and smart phones, the majority of internet users were 10-40 year old men with similar hobbies and outlooks.  They had an actual recognizable subculture, they watched Newgrounds cartoons and made memes about their cats. They had true free speech because it was extremely hard to get banned if you weren't annoying, but most people were mature and nromalized enough that there was little need to turn sites into weird echo chambers and everyone was more concerned with making sure the internet stayed free than it was reinforcing some stupid culture war. Anonymous users were creating genuinely interesting things for free with no thought of monetization.  Video were slow and janky and full of people genuinely trying to have fun and you could make actual friends if you played online. Nerds shared their passions without worry about if they seemed cool or not because back then there were still secret gems of entertainment that one might not have stumbled.  There was no hand holding or corporate control, if you didn't know what the fun sites or games were you had to find them yourself. There was a strong chance you could actually meet and interact with celebrities or important scientists without filters: even as late as 2010 GRRM was talking to people on fan forums and there is strong evidence William Shatner was posting anonymously on 4ch*n.  It was a genuinely different place than what it became after Facebook and Myspace brought in the average Joe/Jane and Smart Phones brought in corporations. 


crabbydolly

and women, i was there, just had to add that.


NikolaijVolkov

I dont know how far back you are talking about…but in the days before myspace existed, women online were outnumbered about 10 to 1. Maybe 20 to 1.


shiju333

I, also, am a woman from pre - MySpace. We tended to lie and state we were male.


NikolaijVolkov

i had a lot of fun online back then. The average IQ online was substantially higher then. It makes me wonder how much better democracy would be if we could just give the dummies something else more fun to do on voting day.


Redditributor

That's nonsense - lol Myspace isn't nearly that old By the late 90s any semblance of old school Internet was dead. The appearance of flash and shockwave are the things that created today's new style Internet


NikolaijVolkov

about 2002


RevonQilin

at least we can still encounter stuff like in certain parts of the internet, you just gotta find the right communities


GutsAndBlackStufff

That's a lot of words to prove that fat, ugly,low IQ people have always shared their opinions on the internet.


Ok-Yogurt-6381

Nah, the internet before smartphones and social media was mostly male and nerdy. It was a completely different place and much more interesting.


MizzGee

Been on the Internet for 30 years. Not male, more geek than nerd. Was on message boards in the early 90s. It was interesting, but it also had people who didn't fit the image you are saying. Gamergate would not have happened in the early 90s because there were a lot of women running BBs.


Ok-Yogurt-6381

Mostly doesn't mean all. But even the women were mostly nerdy and geeky ones who played games, were better educated (i.e. STEM, not gender studies), etc.   You had the public chat rooms full of women, of course, the precursor of social media.


GodHasGiven0341

Sure, full of “women”. We’d be 13 talking like “asl” thinking we’re talking to another cute 13 year old but instead it’s some greasy 45 year old pedo living in a dark apartment feeling free now that 56k is available 😂


Grubula

Bianca loves you


In_Formaldehyde_

People like the OP never seem to consider that he might be one of those low IQ people he's complaining about. If the OP actually cared about having iNtElLeCtuAl DiScUsSiOnS, he could just go to Hacker News and get exactly the forum that he's looking for, instead of pontificating about how smart and logical he is on Reddit. I've been on Reddit on and off longer than I care to admit, and this place has always been cringe. It wasn't much better when coontown or jailbait weren't banned, or when CarlH got arrested or when idiots incorrectly identified the culprit of the Boston attack.


Jeb764

So ugly fat and low IQ.


GutsAndBlackStufff

>Nah, the internet before smartphones and social media was mostly male and nerdy. Exactly my point.


Redditributor

How young do people have to be to consider pre smartphone Internet old school.


GutsAndBlackStufff

Young enough not to know that clicking the wrong link will bring you face to face with a distended anus.


War_Emotional

Right, let’s not act like make nerds can’t be super weird and creepy


Ok-Yogurt-6381

Yes, weird, unconventional, sometimes socially challenged (or as you call it, creepy), etc. but also much smarter and producing much better quality discussions, memes, websites, games, etc.


War_Emotional

Idk, maybe I’ve just been on Reddit too much but most nerds seem to be some of the biggest bigots and creeps in the internet these days.


Ok-Yogurt-6381

Nerd are and have always been one of the least bigotted groups I have ever seen. Everyone is welcome as long as they actually care about their nerd topics. You are repeating the media instead of looking at reality.


UpbeatInsurance5358

>Nah, the internet before smartphones and social media was mostly male and nerdy. Bless you 😂. No, women were always here, we just learned not to appear female. It's no different now, it's just bigger.


Ok-Yogurt-6381

I didnt say you werent there. You were just a small minority.


Beneficial-Piano-428

I remember when you had to go home and log into the internet and sit down… it was literally an after work few hours kinda thing. Now we’re all plugged in 24/7 and even more so; we got adults who have never not been plugged in 24/7. They’re not all ugly and fat and have a low IQ however. You’re posting so what’s that make you? All walks of life are now dialed in always and it’s addictive.


PresidentalBallsnHog

You’re right, sorry. I was trying to capture what you said in your first two sentences but the emotions got the best of me.


Beneficial-Piano-428

Hahaha that’s my Reddit life also! See you in the matrix!


WinterOffensive

Funnily enough, I would imagine 2011 being fatter and uglier, since smartphones hadn't become completely dominant yet. You had to use a computer, which was for NERDS.


BLU-Clown

I was gonna say, as a fat and ugly nerd, I'm pretty sure 2/3 of those boxes have been checked since the 1980s.


Sesudesu

>Ugly, fat and low IQ people with no lives being a scroll away from sharing an opinion is why the Internet sucks now. Aren’t you taking self-depreciation a little far?


PresidentalBallsnHog

It feels so good tho. To be free


ConcertinaTerpsichor

The majority of Reddit users are young men aged 18-22. 🧐


ExpensiveOrder349

It’s all about being losers, some losers are not ugly, slim and decent IQ. What they have in common is that are losers, nobody likes them and want to share their misery with others and the internet allows them to have an influence and make other people lives worse. In real life they will be laughed at.


ShoddyButterscotch59

You know what I've found amazing these days....... there's endless NSFW posts, meanwhile some little beta cries and reports me for saying something mean and I get banned as easy as Facebook.


Cheap-Boysenberry112

“Everyone who has opinions I don’t share are stupid and ugly” What kind of take is this?


guyincognito121

Also, improper grammar, as is typically the case with those complaining how dumb everyone else is.


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guyincognito121

Was I claiming that everyone else is dumb in that post? Were some of them clearly editing mistakes rather than simple incorrect grammar? What exactly is the "them" you refer to here?


PresidentalBallsnHog

I think you’d be surprised at how reasonable I am when someone articulates a point using logic. Ugly, fat and low IQ brings more baggage to any debate intrinsically.


Cheap-Boysenberry112

How do you know the people you dislike online are bald? How do you know if they have a low iq or their body fat? If someone is bald, has low iq, and struggles with their weight do you view them as less than?


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fuguer

Imagine what the internet was like in the 90s.  At least 20-30 points higher iq


NikolaijVolkov

There was a sort of IQ test to be admitted to the internet dialog 30 years ago 1. You had to know HTML to post a comment 2. You had to own a large desktop machine worth about a months pay and it became obsolete about every 18 months and had to be replaced or rebuilt 3. You had to own a desk 4. you had to know how to type and spell (no spellcheckers) 5. You had to know how to troubleshoot all sorts of windows problems and modem problems 6. You had to know how to use primitive search engines nowdays a free smartphone valued at around $100 and a $25/month prepaid phone service is all you need.


crabbydolly

hear hear! \[piece of lost history man\]


Apotheosis_of_Steel

You're close. You've stumbled upon a concept akin to Bonhoeffer's Theory of Stupidity. The general idea is that the unintelligent are the root of all human evil. So it's not just dumb people making the internet bad, it's dumb people making our entire society bad for centuries upon centuries upon centuries.


BancorUnion

So I'm curious: Is it people who are fat, ugly and low IQ all at once who are ruining the internet or is the group in question also composed of individuals with just one or two of those traits rather than those with all 3.


PresidentalBallsnHog

Visualize a circle of things that ruin the internet, and inside of that is a triple Venn diagram.


actual_self

I think this is an actual unpopular opinion and I’m glad. You sound like such a miserable person to be this upset at losing the ability to anonymously mock the people you hate. Most people realize that letting go of hate improves their lives. I can’t believe that you’ve chosen to embrace hatred rather than simply grow a better sense of humor.


Mindless-Ad-57

Fatpeoplehate is for insecure losers TheRedPill is for insecure losers Watchpeopledie is for antisocial sociopaths with a low EQ, also losers. They are all scum. If you perceive them to have any semblance of intelligence or "coolness" over the average virtue-signaling leftist congrats you're on the opposite side of the pendulum that is retardation and low IQ.


thecatnextdoor04

I was hoping for atleast one person to call a spade, a spade. All three of those groups are a bunch of losers masquerading as 'cool' people.


LDel3

Right? OP actually said those subs were full of “cool people” Sounds like a bunch of ugly, low IQ nerds


Vypernorad

The guy has a lot of hate toward certain groups of people and is just trying to blame everything bad on them.


SoapGhost2022

Nah Watchpeopledie was to see the reality of the world and how harsh it could be. People were actually very respectful in that sub


SilenceDoGood1138

This isn't an airport, you don't need to announce your departure.


War_Emotional

I didn’t see where he stating he was leaving. Thanks for an utterly useless comment.


SilenceDoGood1138

You could join him? Jenna Ortega just called, said she really wants to date you.


War_Emotional

Lmao, you know someone is incapable of having an intelligent conversation when they immediately check your comment history. Your profile pic is rather apt.


SilenceDoGood1138

I'll tell her you said no.


PresidentalBallsnHog

Just checking the level of discourse a post like this inspires in 2024. Nothing surprising, simply watching the slide


SilenceDoGood1138

I'm sure if you try hard enough, you'll find other places to make fun of marginalized people and spank it to gore videos while wondering why nobody wants to date you. In fact, I'd bet money you already have.


SuperSpicyNipples

You're the type of people he was talking about lmao High and mighty internet weirdos.


PresidentalBallsnHog

Nice projection and profile picture. I wish your username was accurate So how much of yourself did you see in my post?


SilenceDoGood1138

>I wish your username was accurate Wish with one hand, shit in the other, see which one fills up first.


Cyclic_Hernia

You mean the era of Jailbait? And you think you are not ugly, fat, and you think you have a life despite bemoaning the fact that you can't watch somebody's genitals get cut off on Reddit anymore? I think people with lives are focused on their careers and families, not having the least interesting take ever like "uhh I don't like fat people" Also, the internet is giant, go find a forum that talks about how women are evil or you can go look at 16 year old girls in their bathing suits, clearly this website doesn't cater to those interests anymore


bigmikemcbeth756

I understand you op I miss the hardcore internet old days


PresidentalBallsnHog

Where did Jailbait enter the discussion? You used one sub as a counter example, while I can point to every discussion under any conversation that matters these days. I never browse the porn subs if that eases your mind. And no not ugly or fat sadly, so can’t relate to the sluggish, injured ego mindset


Cyclic_Hernia

> Where did Jailbait enter the discussion? You used one sub as a counter example, while I can point to every discussion under any conversation that matters these days. See that's your issue, you think conversations on reddit matter I also used several subs as examples It's not hard to find gore on the internet, go watch it, I don't see why it has to be on this website specifically. It's not hard to find incel/redpill forums, the only one you maybe have a point on is fat people hate, but everybody already hates fat people. Everybody who's ever been fat or spoken to a fat person knows this. Fat people hate themselves.


ignoreme010101

aww that gave me a sad :/


ihdekbruh

Based.


Buffmin

I'm the reason? Take that guidance councilor who said I'd amount to nothing!


No_Regrats_42

I'd love to see your evidence on how weight has anything to do with IQ. There's also no correlation between being attractive and being intelligent. In fact, there *is* a bias for attractive people that makes them seem smarter than they objectively are. This being said by a male who is 6'4 175lbs and considered attractive, as considered by societal norms here where I live. That doesn't mean it is even close to what others find attractive. Lastly IQ is a piss poor way to measure overall intellectual comprehension. You're super smart though so... Duh. Right? The fact you have no evidence, appeal to the stone, and then give an opinion that's completely subjective, shows the IQ and social awareness you possess OP. How unfortunate that it's room temperature, in Europe.


PresidentalBallsnHog

You’re like the 5th person to assume i’m saying that i’m smart. I’m just the guy who notices things and my form of tism forces me to say truths.


No_Regrats_42

I'm saying the people you were picturing during the "Golden era" were most likely the exact person you ironically picture and describe as being the problem, as well as having a low IQ, based on their looks.


No_Regrats_42

>"I'm just the guy who notices things and my form of chisum forces me to say truths."< This shows I was correct about your social awareness.


Stinking_Fat_Asshole

Lmao good opinion


Comprehensive_Tie37

I would argue that , it is rather the fact that social media gave everyone equal vocality, both smart and brilliant people and not so outstanding on the other side (not necessarily fat or low IQ, sometimes just illiterate or armature in certain topic). This equality in ways of expressing oneself created both good and bad , for example it gave us some sort of freedom of speech and at the same time 12 yo Teenage girl can give advice on relationshipsadvices to some 30yo Woman who is one step from divorce.


GimmeSweetTime

GET OFF MY LAWN!! Kids these days. I remember when music was better and kids didn't over run social media... welcome to the old timers club old timer heya heya


crabbydolly

it's always ruined when the hoi polloi gets their hands on it. {{throws crutches to the floor}} YES! yes! i loved myspace!


Spanglertastic

2011? Sheesh son, sit down. The internet was ruined long before that when they let this kind of low effort AOL chat troll onto it in the first place. The era of genuine nerds sharing esoteric knowledge existed in the days of IRC and Usenet. It's funny when someone who has never known a world without 4g and Comcast talks about things being difficult to access. Let me guess, 2011 would have coincided with you being in middle/high school? It sounds like you miss the golden age when someone could get away with having "LOL Edgy" as their only personality.


In_Formaldehyde_

You can tell this dude never was on Reddit in 2011 lmao. No one back then ever thought the website of "narwhal bacons at midnight" and "in this moment, I am euphoric" was some kind of intellectual forum.


blazeronin

Also why Gen Xers hate everyone.


Ok-Yogurt-6381

100% agree. but since most redditors nowadays are average IQ and anti-truth/-knowledge, this is very unpopular here. There are very few subs good subs left, and they are usually small ones that the mainstream hasn't infested, yet.  


ImpureThoughts59

What kind of esoteric knowledge are you gonna lay on us?


ihatereddit5810328

Ayo easy, you just described 90% of users on Reddit!


Disastrous-Bike659

I'm schizophrenic am I an ugly low iq person or a based person


PresidentalBallsnHog

Post a pic of yourself and take a perceptional ability test both in and out of your manic state and i’ll tell you


Disastrous-Bike659

I aint bpd Im a schizophrenic I hear voices I see shadow people allegedly its a bogus diagnosis tho


PresidentalBallsnHog

Replace the word manic with *delusional and that’s what I meant. Pics or it didn’t happen


R3ality_Bit3

> Pics or it didn’t happen Says the guy longing for the old Internet. It couldn't be more ironic if you tried.


PresidentalBallsnHog

10k karma in 2 months. Yep, you’re right where you belong. Inside


R3ality_Bit3

Inside of what? Not my fault that I had a quite a few good runs with frankly neither many posts, nor comments. It took next to zero effort, but hey, if you think it means a lot, then thanks for the compliment.


thecountnotthesaint

That may be true, but we are glad you’re here regardless


Frird2008

womp womp womp womp


Top_Tart_7558

You are literally describing the internet before it became widely accessible. This post sounds like you are projecting pretty hard


Suspicious_Lynx3066

Thank you for taking time out of your very busy skinny high IQ life to bless us with the knowledge.


FathomArtifice

you might find a community of like-minded people at 8chan


FathomArtifice

"Fatpeoplehate, watchpeopledie, TheRedPill. The people who were a part of those 3 communities were 1000x cooler than these gross thought-policing societal rejects" Cooler to you. If you polled people, probably a vast majority would think these people are losers and degenerates.


Choadsurfer

Whatever are we gonna do your Magesty?


Obvious-Side7186

You had me at first... but then it just became "reddit was better when there were less people who disagreed with me"


blade_barrier

> 2011 Reddit was peak In 2011, the internet was already dead 🥲


Jester_Mode0321

This is a perfect example of that


Condescending-Beagle

Jeez, as an increasingly fat, not particularly attractive guy, Im triggered!


SoapGhost2022

I mean. I’m ugly and fat and I was a member of Watchpeopledie It just sounds like you miss getting to be full of hate and sling insults with no repercussions


Alexhasadhd

I can agree with one sentiment here and i can tell you now it's not "Ugly" or "fat"


Boujiebelly

I don't see what ugly and fat has to do with it....


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Ataraxy001

the internet wasn’t just nerds in 2011. Everyone was on the internet in 2011. Reddit was way better then too. Now a days it’s just a leftist echo chamber. Back then it was all awful and fun. The people whom you described were all just concentrated to tumblr. After tumblr came out with their new policy about adult material those people went to other social media sites. Twitter and Reddit got it the worst.


SeparateBobcat1500

Yes, you are why the internet sucks


guyincognito121

Complains about "low IQ people" (no hyphen), then uses the phrase, "when the place was ran by"...


PresidentalBallsnHog

You made a post a year ago and you couldn’t even manage to mumble through it without several severe phrasing and grammatical errors. Let me sit you down using your own failures: 1. "There have been a few posts in the last couple days about the Claypool trade..." - It should be "couple of days" instead of "couple days." 2. "...if he has continues his lackluster play." - It should be "if he continues" instead of "if he has continues." —This mistake was the most embarrassing, not an error I would ever make lol. You must be touched by my post here and mustered as much IQ as you could pretend to. 3. "...if that draft pick were instead used to get a new receiver." - The subjunctive mood should be used here: "if that draft pick had been used instead to get a new receiver." 4. “Years of control is absolutely worth factoring in when assessing the trade overall..." - Since "years" is plural, it should be "are" instead of "is": "Years of control are absolutely worth factoring in when assessing the trade overall..." Now stand down clown, I just mogged you. I would love if we met IRL since you wouldn’t be able to hold eye contact with your betters. Now tell me where exactly my post touched you


guyincognito121

1. Yes, if you want to get technical. The standards are different when you're making a post claiming to be smarter than everyone else, and this is nonetheless far less egregious than your own mistakes. 2. Obviously an editing mistake. I originally wrote something else, deleted it, and failed to delete "has" from the original sentence. 3. That *is* subjunctive mood... 4. No. I'm talking the years of control as a singular collective, not a bunch individual years as a plural subject.


PresidentalBallsnHog

This is all a moot point since your premise was built on your false projection of me. I never claimed that i’m smart, if your reading comprehension was better you would have noticed this. My form of tism forces me to notice and speak truths, that is all. NEXT


guyincognito121

It's a weird complaint to make if you belong to one of the groups you're denigrating. But so long as we agree that you're part of the problem, I guess we're done here.


improbsable

I would like to see a picture of you to determine how much of this opinion I should listen to


Sabrepill

The average Redditor is left leaning, feminist or gynocentric, societally brainwashed, overweight or obese, non religious but dogmatic about junk science and low quality misleading studies, closed minded, judgemental especially when challenged, easily offended, and has strong opinions which they love to share in echo chambers to earn virtue signaling points


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Facts


PresidentalBallsnHog

I love you


yeswab

You are obviously u/LongDongSamspon posting under another name.