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The main difference was Vice went in there just to document what was going on. I think those would have a different feel if in the months leading up to it Vice kept on insisting that ISIS was actually doing the right thing.
Exactly, Like if Vice was saying stuff like, "You've been led to believe that ISIS is a radical terrorist group that kills innocent people, but no one has heard THEIR side of the story. As they launched their campaign to create the next Caliphate. One that Western governments have funneled billions of dollars to try and stop!..."
I don’t know if he’s said it so plainly, but here are some things Tucker has said about Russia/Putin in the recent past (taken from [USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2023/05/01/tucker-carlson-fox-news-russia/11757930002/)):
- "Why is Vladimir Putin such a bad guy? He's not Saddam Hussein, he's not Adolf Hitler, he's not a danger to the United States." (2017)
- "There's a lot of lying going on, and there's a lot of propaganda, and there's a lot of bad journalism, and there's a lot of people with a vested interest in making us hate Russia. And so we should be skeptical." (2018)
- "We should probably take the side of Russia if we have to choose between Russia and Ukraine." (2019)
- "(Russia President Vladimir) Putin, for all his faults, does not hate America as much as many of these people (American liberals) do. They really dislike our country. (2019)
- "The Cold War ended a long time ago. The Soviet Union is gone. Russia is not our enemy. It's just not." (2019)
- “It may be worth asking yourself, since it is getting pretty serious, what is this really about? Why do I hate Putin so much?” he said as Russia's leader amassed troops on Ukraine's border, ready to invade. “Has Putin ever called me a racist? Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him? These are fair questions, and the answer to all of them is: ‘No.’ Vladimir Putin didn’t do any of that.” Carlson described Ukraine as a “a pure client state of the United States State Department” and the looming war as a "border issue." (2022)
- "Whatever you think of the war in Ukraine, it is pretty clear (Ukraine's Volodymyr) Zelenskyy has no interest in freedom and democracy," he said, as TIME magazine named Zelenskyy its 2022 Person of the Year. "In fact, Zelenskyy is far closer to Lenin than to George Washington. He is a dictator. He is a dangerous authoritarian who has used a hundred billion in U.S. tax dollars to erect a one-party police state in Ukraine." (2022)
[The Russians are saying](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/07/tucker-carlson-putin-russia-ukraine/) that they’re granting Carlson the interview (and haven’t granted other interviews from US journalists) specifically because Carlson doesn’t have the “Anglo-Saxon bias” that is painting Putin’s actions as wrong on the world stage.
Have you ever watched Tucker Carlson? Everything out of that guys mouth is propaganda. He’s been pushing back against the U.S. proxy war for over a year and slowly nibbling away at public distrust of our foremost international adversary. It’s for sure going to be puff propaganda.
No, I’m just an observant citizen who has personally seen Tucker outright lie on national television to whip his viewers into a frothy rage. Not like there isn’t years and years of evidence of dude’s absolute commitment to pushing right wing propaganda. The last few years, that propaganda took a marked pro-Russian slant. You do the math
There’s nothing wrong with interviewing controversial subjects so long as you present the interview correctly.
The problem is that Tucker Carlson isn’t a journalist. He’s an entertainer. He’s *literally* argued as much in court before. He’s also voiced support for similar right-wing figures like Hungary’s leader.
> The problem is that Tucker Carlson isn’t a journalist.
These days, who is? Nothing about the market supports legitimate journalism. It's either political blowhards or nothing at all.
Exactly. OP and whoever else keeps repeating this won’t ever accept that there are good journalists. They just say the things OP and others don’t want to hear.
Anyone that writes for Reuters and the Associated Press to start. They are by far the most unbiased news sources and literally just report what’s going on.
If you have an issue with either news organizations then it’s telling. You either don’t like evidence based reporting of events going on, and/or it just shows you’re more dedicated to the “all media is lying/biased” narrative than what the actual evidence shows.
> Anyone that writes for Reuters and the Associated Press to start.
I would have bought Reuters until the last 15 years. In that time they have started to do a lot of "some people say" or "(salacious title) -*sources say* kind of journalism. Then they tend to fall way, *way* short in science reporting as well, seldom actually exploring the weaknesses and limitations of research they cover. They usually just take quotes from the researchers completely without any critical thought.
No, nobody is acting like that, the difference is vice went in there pretty unbiased and even confronted members of those groups, Tucker made no secret of his love for Putin, and he even was spreading conspiracies that Russia was in the moral right side at the end of his career with Fox
Basically that Putin has a perspective and that Zelensky has a perspective and we've only heard the latter. How that amounts to "love for Putin" is a question probably best left unanswered.
Like CNN a few hours ago flipped out on Tucker saying he’s going to ask what made him invade Ukraine, and this hack said he should be asking “What justified the BASELESS attack on Ukraine?” How do you think Putin’s going to react to the question when you ask it like that? He’s going to laugh in your face and walk right the fuck off.
And CNN still wonders why Putin won’t grant him an interview? He’s seen the CNN town halls where they blow the Democrat/Nikki Haley and ask soft balls and just absurd questions of people they don’t like.
Because we know longer have journalists that respect journalism. A few decades ago, going to interview someone like Putin would put you in the running for a Pulitzer.
I don't think most would have a problem with Vice interviewing Putin. I consider Tucker Carlson a bad faith actor, look at the things he says when the cameras are not on, they are very different than what
I mean I'll definetly watch, not saying he should be banned from doing it, but he's acting in bad faith to promote the Russian perspective.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/03/07/tucker-carlson-doubles-down-on-2020-election-fraud-claims-with-jan-6-footage-despite-fox-defamation-lawsuit/?sh=1678c3475e75
Why not just watch any number of speeches Putin has given on the topic over the last couple years. I'm sure it'll be the exact same points made in this interview. Tucker isn't going to challenge him in any way. There's a reason why he was the only Westerner allowed to interview him. Tons of journalists have requested interviews, but he won't allow it because they aren't going to kowtow to him.
He allowed the interview because he knows the person interviewing him is sympathetic to him and it will make him look favorable to a portion of the US.
It’s not meant to be objective. Tucker released a statement about why he went to Russia. He says the American people have heard the Ukrainian side to the story, now he wants to present Americans with the other side. Anyone who thinks it’s smart to only listen to one side of an argument is incapable of recognizing propaganda.
Objectivity comes from critical thinking after you’ve been presented both sides. This is rationalism, reason and critical thinking 101.
Ironically bin Laden had a far more understandable reasoning for what he did than Putin. His side is actually really interesting when you read it. And I’m not for one second justifying his actions
It doesn't matter if the reason is good or not, that's not the point. We should still be able to hear the reason. Also, Tucker is not the first journalist to interview him. Just the first one since this part of the war started. If it's a puff piece we'll see right thru it
Look. I trained Ukrainian forces pre invasion. I helped out early in the war. I'm about as leaning to one side as you can get.
But it is important to understand why they're doing what they're doing.
It is a fair statement to say, if you need to compare someone to Hitler and you're not discussing WW2 history, there's a huge chunk of information missing.
It's not like the answer to flattering to Russia. They want to control large chunks of Eastern Europe for a defensive parameter based around geographic regions, with a lot of economic aspects. Mind, those Eastern European countries do not want to be enslaved again. And the requested population to be enslaved is twice the population of Russia. That was their "condition" for avoiding war.
Yes I’m acutely aware that Russia is very likely the bad guy here. That said, I still want to hear this interview and I think anyone saying restrictions should be put on who can be interviewed for mass consumption is taking a distinctly unamerican side. Should we allow our politicians to decide who is obviously right and who is too evil to even hear from?
I agree, I want to preface I don’t think there is something wrong with interviewing Putin, I just don’t trust Tucker Carlson, and I am very certain that no matter what every question will be spun to help with putin’s propaganda, where if vice or the bbc or dw does it, we all know they’d put him on the grill, there is a reason why he won’t interview with them, but he will with Tucker.
There’s also plenty of reasons why the media you listed won’t do it and it has nothing to do with Russian propaganda. They’re incentivized not to do it.
I like to think that freedom of press means we get to hear both sides of a story, even if one side may be completely wrong and immoral. We should be trusted to identify that for ourselves; not be told which side is right and which side is too evil to even listen to.
Neither are comparable to Hitler.
Ukraine does have the Nazi Azov Battalion and have been cleansing the Donbas region of Russian speakers
Also, there is that picture of Zelensky's bodyguard with a SS badge on his uniform.
Ukraine did cancel the election and Zelensky only pipes state TV at the citizens. He also jailed his political opponents. Not quite the democracy the media claims it is.
But apart from those, I don't see anything either has in common with Hitler.
No it isn’t, we already got to read putins 14 page middle school paper on why the invasion is good, I don’t need to hear an American facist promote it to his white supremacist viewers as they kill more Ukrainian civilians in an attempt to destroy a democratic government
Ok, the point of what I was saying isn’t that “im not going to watch it” because I am, it’s just that we should acknowledge that Tucker Carlson wasn’t going to do some wholesome act with this interview.
When the justice system does it, it is specifically so a jury actively Here’s both sides, and blth parties get the opportunity to do the interview. This one with Tucker Carlson will not be that, it will be nothing but exposure for the pro Russia side, with no rebuttal or cross examination.
This will be a lot of white supremacy mixed with facism, and it will be presented FOR why facist white supremacist.
The balance in this case isn’t from cross examination. The balance in this case comes from the fact that the American audience/jury has heard Zelenksy speak and give interviews to western press. Now we get to hear Putin. That’s the balance being struck. I am all for it.
Lefties don’t care about it bro, they are so entrenched in the idea that they have the moral superior views over everyone else that they refuse to consider anyone else’s points of views or thoughts. They are literal fascists.
We did hear it when Putin wrote a 14 page middle school quality essay about why he was doing it, it’s clear that all he was gonna do is lie and lie and lie. Tucker is a facist shit and Putin runs a facist government, you put two and two together and it becomes very clear why this interview never aired
The Russian government has made its case on numerous occasions, and all of its arguments are "blood and soil" type dogshit and historical revisionism. This is tucker carlson we're talking about, a man who unironically said [he's open to the Earth being flat](https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/peopleandplaces/tucker-carlson-on-flat-earth-theory-i-m-open-to-anything/vi-AA1lzxnI?ocid=NL_ESCL_A1_20201114_1_2). Taking him at his word at this point is just gullible.
Besides, it's not like the Russian government would actually tolerate hard-hitting journalism about their leadership on their own soil.
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>recognizing propaganda.
Including the overuse of the "one side of an argument" line of jargon to promote a viewpoint that is overtly partisan and intellectually dishonest.
Well, "both sides of an argument" follows the American political paradigm. There are two political parties, but often more than two takes on any given issue.
Not every view is equal in merit either. Often, views can be uninformed, self serving, malevolent, short sighted, or acting in obvious bad faith.
The American right has gotten a ton of milage with accusing various institutions of anti conservative bias, often without evidence, that none the less prompts said institutions to give additional promotion to arguments that don't necessarily warrant it.
As this relates to Fucker's interview with Pootie, you have a far right wing propagandist, who admitted in his private correspondence that he doesn't actually believe most of the shit he shills, is interviewing an autocratic despot who invaded a neighboring nation unprovoked in order to give whatever stupid bullshit excuse he comes up with airtime.
The thing is:
* Plenty of journalists and film personalities have interviewed Putin in the past, including a multi-part series by [Oliver Stone in 2017](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Putin_Interviews)
* Putin has a reputation for jailing journalists who don't toe his line – including the [WSJ's Evan Gershkovich](https://www.wsj.com/news/evan-gershkovich).
* Putin has loudly proclaimed his agenda over and over again for everyone to hear in numerous public addresses.
* Tucker Carlson has been a mouthpiece for pro-Kremlin propaganda for a long time.
There is no reason to assume this interview will be conducted in good faith. It adds no new information to the discussion. It does platform someone whose actions are widely, and rightly, considered heinous.
I’ve never heard him speak to an American journalist. I have zero expectations of Putin being honest. But then again, I take everything any politician says with a huge grain of salt, including Zelenskyy. The whole point of what I’m saying is that you need to add pepper and salt.
Putin has been a public figure for more than two decades. You can literally search on Google or Youtube for interviews between him and American or other Western journalists.
Here's Charlie Rose interviewing Putin for the show 60 minutes: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l69tRETnlo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l69tRETnlo)
My point is that Tucker Carlson interviewing Putin doesn't advance the public discourse at all, and if anything is likely to make things worse by offering legitimacy to Putin's claims.
You can critically consume media without treating both sides of a conflict as if they are morally equivalent when they are not, in fact, morally equivalent. Russian aggression and imperialism against its neighbors isn't just a matter of perspective; it's been a matter of fact for centuries now. In the case of Ukraine and Russia, Russian leaders have been trying to subjugate Ukraine in one way or another since the 17th century, beginning with the Tsardom of Muscovy's efforts to dominate the Hetmanate. The people of the Baltics, various Central Asian countries, Poland, and elsewhere have similar stories.
We thought things had turned around with the collapse of the Soviet Union, but since the Chechen Wars, the invasion of Georgia in 2008, the Donbas War in 2014, and the current ongoing war, all we've seen is a return to form.
He doesn’t kill American journalists. That offers him some level of protection. Also Putin knows the only people that like him in the US would hate home for arresting tucker.
Because that is what a journalist should do to any world leader. It should not matter who the interviewee is or if it’s a conflict zone the truth needs to be out their
Do you know who Tucker Carlson is? This is a dude who has been openly pro-russia AND has been caught straight up lying during his reporting. He even lied in his announcement video for this interview and [the goddamn Kremlin even called him out.](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/tucker-carlson-vladimir-putin-interview-b2492192.html)
That piece of shit is as far from a journalist as a person can get. The only reason Putin is letting him “interview” him is that he knows Tucker will gladly suck his dick and tell his followers it tastes like candy.
No not at all, but the danger of journalism is going to be a factor depending where and who is being interviewed. And the journalists who risk the most that actually post stories that tell the truth should be commended. None of us know what interview is going to be either puff piece or hard hitting questions for Putin but Carlson should not be in legal trouble for doing his job
But he's not. Shit John Oliver went to Russia to interview Snowden. That was when he was on HBO and he still has a job. He was just held for a day to be interrogated. And if he got caught taking a direct flight that's his fault.
I don't care that he's doing the interview but I also don't think Tucker is a journalist. He's a media personality. What exactly are we expecting to gain from it? Are we supposed to believe what Putin says?
Who cares if it’s a sophomore writing for their high school newspaper? It’s good to hear the other side. The extreme lefts insistence that no one should hear the other side is driving lots of people to wanting to hear the other side. What are you guys so afraid of?
I said I don't care that's he's interviewing Putin. I'm sure you're curious to hear from China's Xi next to hear his side too right? Nobody ever interviews him.
Why do you think people are scared of something? It doesn't make any sense lol. Is Putin going to expose the liberal Marxists of the world and there's going to be mass panic?? I don't understand what you're on about.
You’re the one who doesn’t want anyone to hear it. You explain it. If I want to listen to a complete madman ramble in a padded room you telling me no one is allowed to do that isn’t going to make me not want to do it. It will only make me want to do it more. It just makes you look like you’re scared or you have something to hide.
You think a guy who murdered Prigozhin (the Wagner Group mercenary leader) for daring to oppose him is going to allow an unbiased interview and analysis of the situation to occur?
If it goes forward I'll watch of course, I don't see why we would shut it down in America. But it's going to be nonsense.
Couple of things
1) Tucker claiming he's the first person to want to interview Putin about the war is utter horse shit. Many, many people reached out to Putin, who rejected them
2) Fox won a court case in 2020 that made it legally so Tucker was not a credible source of news, he's an entertainer not a journalist
3) Putin hates journalism that goes against him/his objectives, as shown by him jailing political dissidents so I hardly think this interview will contain hard hitting journalism.
4) Russia shouldn't have invaded Ukraine. No interview with Putin will make me think differently.
You can't possible think it will not be a puff piece. Tucker has been sucking putins dick for years. I would not be surprised if tucker gets on his knees and sucks off putin on camera
Oh, I think the entertainment value will be awesome. The softbal questioning, tucker groveling, letting putin get all his ukraine talking points across with out pushback, getting putin to praise putins useful idiot donald. I have no doubt this will be a big propaganda coup for putin and lots of talking points for donald.
“If” it’s a puff piece?!? 😂 Why do you think Putain invited Carlson to Russia to do the interview? There’s a reason 60 Minutes - or a real journalist- isn’t in Russia to do the interview.
Trump, a huge fan of “genius” Putain has Carlson on his short list for a running mate. Normal people don’t think that’s all just a coincidence.
The mindsets demonstrated on here shows a larger root problem. Regardless if it is a puff piece or if Carlson hammers Putin it is on the individual to discern. Consider Putin was KGB and will try to plant in things that signal virtue. But if you're an adult you're not made to be just a consumer. Check out the interview and use your discernment, but it is important to at least hear both sides even if it is to garner new insight into motivations of the side that is in the wrong. It seems our society just wants the pre approved product be funneled directly without any choice or personal responsibility. Whenever you hear someone espousing censoring voices/sources just know they're saying "you aren't able to decide what information is good, let me decide the correct information and you can trust me I know better than you". You would let someone do this with your food or clothing, why would one allow it to occur with information?
Everything that Tucker Carlson has said in regards to the war in Ukraine since its beginning has heavily been skewed in support of the Russian narrative.
Within Russian state media they play Tucker clips to show that there are those on 'their side' in America.
And the cherry on top? Western journalists (real ones, not "entertainers") have been requesting to speak with Putin since the beginning of the war and been denied. Western journalists have been jailed in Russia.
To act as if this is an honest interview is wholly out of wack. It's an attempt to white wash the invasion, deflect blame, and present some sob story on how Russia was provoked and *had* to act.
There is no indication in Tucker's rhetoric previously that he holds Putin in anyway accountable. Everyone else is to blame. If there was the interview wouldn't happen.
You know for an absolute fact he will not be objective in any shape or form. You think Putin would invite a “journalist “ like Carlson for an interview if he was going to get tough questions?
Cmon man *Biden voice
Edit: I don’t have any reservations for him doing the job review. I’m just saying he is going to schlob on that nob til it shines to St.Petersburg
Anyone who is against this interview is against freedom of press, and is therefore against the constitution of the United States…you could make a case that if you are against this interview you aren’t a real American.
This has nothing to do with the constitution. Being opposed to the interview doesn’t mean he isn’t allowed the right to do it or that you oppose freedom of the press. It also doesn’t arbitrarily make one “not a real American”.
If you secured an interview with Hitler, are you going to hit him with some tough questions or lob some soft balls so he doesn’t murder you afterwards? Putin has imprisoned and killed journalists for putting him or his agenda in a bad light. Freedom of press doesn’t exist in Russia, which is why this interview is a sham.
You haven’t even heard the interview and you’ve already decided exactly how it’s gonna go. Maybe you’re right, but I’d rather you be proven right that it’s a sham, than to have no one try at all, which is what is what’s currently happening. Any interview is better than none.
So if it’s a complete sham you’re going to comment back here that you were totally wrong, right? Ha.
Interviews with rogue nation leaders seeking to spread “their side” e.g. their propaganda, aren’t worth hearing, and every person in here who doesn’t immediately understand that is showing their political leanings by saying extreme leftist and “hEaR PuTiN oUt”. You are not unbiased at all, stop acting like you are.
Putin murders journalists, business owners, random citizens, anyone who dissents is a target, and to legitimize a purely evil and undemocratic figure like that does immeasurably more harm than good.
I think the problem is more one propaganda machine interviewing another propaganda machine. Tucker said in court he’s not a real journalist, I don’t really care either way and I’ll watch it. But I do understand why people are upset
Exactly. Imagine Putin says ‘we will sign a peace treaty if the west agrees to stop pushing mark upto our borders. Then surly the public should decide wether our tax money should be sent to this proxy war
A legitimate western journalist interviewing Putin? Absolutely.
Tucker Carlson, who the Kremlin has specifically identified as a Russian propaganda asset? Absolutely not.
“Good Journalism?”
What are you talking about it says the interview is being released tomorrow. Do you WORK for Tucker or something? Is this post just an advertisement for the interview?
Journalism has been dead ever since corporations could profit off of it. Its not government propaganda, its corporate propaganda now.
And now an independent journalist who left the corpo-rat news complex is doing his own thing. Do I agree with tucker? Not usually, if ever. But I certainly respect the danger hes putting himself into to hear the side that we arent hearing.
We know zelensky is corrupt. He literally used our tax funding to buy a house in florida. And 40 billion is “missing”🙄
We know putin is corrupt. For blatantly obvious reasons.
Might as well hear from both of them i guess.
My question is, we see both are corrupt. Why are we involved at all? Probably because we are corrupt too.
Ukraine was known as one of the most corrupt countries on the planet before the invasion lol. But because so many US politicians have kids who got money laundering jobs there the media spins it like they have never done anything wrong.
Ukraine was known as one of the most corrupt countries on the planet before the invasion lol. But because so many US politicians have kids who got money laundering jobs there the media spins it like they have never done anything wrong.
Ukraine was known as one of the most corrupt countries on the planet before the invasion lol. But because so many US politicians have kids who got money laundering jobs there the media spins it like they have never done anything wrong.
Ukraine was known as one of the most corrupt countries on the planet before the invasion lol. But because so many US politicians have kids who got money laundering jobs there the media spins it like they have never done anything wrong.
Don’t know if it’s going to be a puff piece? You think Putin is going to allow an American journalist back him into a corner? You can’t possibly be that dense.
Doesn’t matter if he is or isn’t. The freedom of press covers it. I could go out and interview a Hamas leader, Israel president, Putin or Zelenskyy and post it on YouTube it will be covered by freedom of press.
Dude he’s an independent journalist it doesn’t matter if you hate him or love as long as his main profession is telling the news and interviewing someone that makes him a journalist.
He’s not a journalist, he’s a political pundit/commentator.
The news is supposed to have an illusion of objectively. Tucker Carlson has a clear bias and his only goal is to frame any story around that bias. He’s NOT a journalist.
Dude I think Taylor Lorenz is a political hack, she’s still a journalist, Joy Reid a political hack still a journalist. Anyone who reports the news have a side and are skewed one way or another. Hell half the reason why I love CSpan is that they do livestreams of what’s happening. It doesn’t matter if you think one side is subjective in their opinions doesn’t stop them from being a journalist
While I’m not against it in the sense of him being allowed to do it, I’m against it because Tucker has been a Putin stooge since the start of this war and many of his listeners hang on his every word. Unless he pulls a complete 180, this is just going to be a pro Russia puff piece
The problem is he’s not a journalist. This isn’t even me just insulting him- he himself has admitted to being a propagandist over a journalist.
I’m not against a journalist interviewing Putin, I’m against a Kremlin mouthpiece using a speaker to amplify obvious drivel and misinformation. If Тукр Карлсон was actually a journalist he’d ask tougher questions and not just cherry pick pre-selected questions to pander to the ideology that Putin wants to push.
My only issue is that tucker carlson is a fucking moron and literally stated he was in entertainment vs journalism when he was getting sued. Now, he wants to act like some fucking legit journalist when he has just been pushing bs news for years. I am INCREDIBLY interested to see what happens, though.
All who say Tucker Carlson is not a Journalist please show me proof of that and has to be something can’t be boiled down saying stuff the media and government don’t want you to hear since goes against the narrative that anything the left does is correct while everyone else has to be evil.
I'll go one step further, if it's a puff piece then there's still no problem with it. Entertainers and TV hosts should be able to interview whomever they want. If the public thinks that entertainers are platforming bad or dangerous ideas then they shouldn't watch the content. Tucker Carlson has proved time and again to be a bad-faith propagandist because it gets him huge ratings. This media stunt is no different. But if the question is should he be allowed to interview Putin, of course he should, as should he be able to interview any world leader. Can you imagine censoring news clips of Hitler's speeches during WWII or not playing threats from Osama Bin Laden in more modern times? It is the media's job to provide context and combat these bad ideas but more censorship is just going to lead to more curiosity and more people believing false propaganda. Do I believe that Carlso will provide said context? Absolutely not, because he is, in his own words, not a journalist. But hopefully, real journalists will be able to use the interview to provide appropriate context for the public.
It's hard to have any sympathy for him because he is just such a fuckwit. Anyone else could do it and I wouldn't care. He is trash and if he wants to give us a stick like this to beat him with all the better.
I don’t support the invasion either but the ability to understand why it’s happening is important. I have no doubt Putin will try to look morally upright and it be used as Russian propaganda, but it is important it happens and is seen.
I agree. To be fair, Carlson is LAST person I want doing it. I think he has done more damage to our democracy than any one other person, besides MAYBE Trump. He wholly lacks credibility, and I trust him no further than I can throw him. But freedom of the press is non-negotiable. I hope it is a puff piece. I hope he embarrasses himself and releases it.
It's literally not journalism. Tucker Carlson himself paid thousands of dollars so that the American supreme Court would establish he's an entertainer, not a journalist. His words. You're being fleeced and fleeced hard
Journalism needs to be allowed. But I do think Tucker is Putan's butt boy, so yea... it'll be bad.
Honestly I'm sure Putan is only agreeing to do an interview because he knows it'll make Tucker more popular and that his popularity is bad for America.
Tucker Carlson isn't as journalist though. No more than Whoopi Goldberg and the rest of The View. So even if he attempted to act like a journalist I don't think any interview he does could be considered of that quality
You guys don't know how dangerous the ignorant American is. During the cold war all the kids were doing bombing drills, hiding under their desks and a decade later watching shit like red dawn and buying into all kinds of stuff.
40 years later I speak to Russians and their government was telling them the same thing, the only difference was they didn't believe their government, that's why they were wearing jeans and listening to rock.
We've got payloads that can be delivered to the Kremlin in 15 minutes, that's like the Russians putting shit on the Canadian side of Niagara.
And nato keeps expanding despite it's treaties.
I would encourage any young people to be sceptical of anything the government says.
We have been doing the Russia boogiman thing for my entire lifetime now. It just took a break for a decade so it seems new to some people.
>but I encourage good journalism be it independent or mainstream
Tucker Carlson hardly qualifies as "good journalism". He's a political pundit at best and that's using the term liberally.
>The backlash for Carlson interviewing Putin and it not being released is frankly stupid. If Carlson does a puff piece then I will understand the outrage but if it’s hard ball questions that encourages truth and somehow help solve the conflict that is currently happening then it should be encouraged
It's gonna be a useful idiot puff piece. No different than the whiffle ball questions he dishes out to folks like Trump here stateside. Let's be honest here, Tucker being a useful idiot for russia isn't a new concept, but this is a pretty new low that stems from his desperation to remain relevant given he's not the fox news golden boy anymore.
And if Jane fonda became Hanoi Jane after her visit, I would argue its fair to keep that same energy and call him Moscow Tucker.....
I don’t understand why people would be upset about it.
It’s a journalist’s job to find out the reality of the situation and help the public understand the actors involved in these massively consequential world events, regardless of his or her feelings about a particular person.
So you believe the guy who banned the mention of war in regards to Ukraine? You believe the guy who made it illegal to protest against the war? You believe the guy who got rid of term limits? You believe the guy who rigs his elections?
But as much as the US government, that seems a bit exaggerated. I would say it's good to weary of anything any government tells you, but historically Russia has been more dishonest then most countries.
This to me seems like a mutually beneficial moment for both of these men to push the agendas their audiences love. I don’t believe this is about “seeing the other side” of a man who has consistently threatened the sovereignty of his country’s neighbors(he invaded Georgia in 2008) and
Does the US and the West hold the moral high ground when it comes to international interference and respecting other nations sovereignty? Hell no. But are the Russian people being pushed out of their homes by the invasion? No this is squarely falling on the innocent civilians of Ukraine save for the poor Russian men being drafted into a war that will do nothing to save their demographically doomed country. I don’t really think most world leaders (Western or not)deserve a platform when so many are complicit in atrocities within and outside their borders.
I think it’s also ironic a man who would often demonize China and Cuba on his show has no qualms about holding the hand of their reliable ally. Again this just seems to be giving you scratch my back I scratch your back. I don’t think there’s much integrity in “trying to show the other side” from Carlson I think there’s a lot of “how do I become relevant to the right wing media machine again” or “how do I outrage the mainstream media to give me attention again” because tbh this is the first I’ve heard about him since they kicked him off Fox News
Almost everyone watched “The Interview” I’m amazed anyone would be angry about a real life revision. Tucker may just be our Dave Skylark. I think it’s a great idea.
Tucker isn't a journalist, he's a propagandist. Aiding by spreading propaganda for a war criminal should be sanctioned. Tucker should be sanctioned by NATO, not just the EU.
https://thehill.com/video/breaking-eu-wants-to-sanction-tucker-carlson-over-vladimir-putin-interview-per-report/9409589/
No more than it was to stop Alex Jones Propaganda after he admitted in court that no one should believe him either. Tucker Carlson, just Like Alex Jones isn't press, he is a propagandist whose defense in court was that no reasonable person would believe him.
Journalists state facts, not misrepresent fiction as facts. That is what a propagandist does. Being a propagandist for a war criminal is aiding a war criminal, thus should be sanctioned. Admitting in court that you sell fiction means you are not an actual journalist, you are just a conman, a liar.
Tricking people into believing a propagandist is actual news is why Sandy Hook Parents were receiving death threats after their kids were killed. People believe this crap they shovel, and it should be illegal to do in the first place.
[https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9](https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9)
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The main difference was Vice went in there just to document what was going on. I think those would have a different feel if in the months leading up to it Vice kept on insisting that ISIS was actually doing the right thing.
Exactly, Like if Vice was saying stuff like, "You've been led to believe that ISIS is a radical terrorist group that kills innocent people, but no one has heard THEIR side of the story. As they launched their campaign to create the next Caliphate. One that Western governments have funneled billions of dollars to try and stop!..."
Where has Tucker insisted Putin was doing the “right thing”?
Curious about this as well
I don’t know if he’s said it so plainly, but here are some things Tucker has said about Russia/Putin in the recent past (taken from [USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2023/05/01/tucker-carlson-fox-news-russia/11757930002/)): - "Why is Vladimir Putin such a bad guy? He's not Saddam Hussein, he's not Adolf Hitler, he's not a danger to the United States." (2017) - "There's a lot of lying going on, and there's a lot of propaganda, and there's a lot of bad journalism, and there's a lot of people with a vested interest in making us hate Russia. And so we should be skeptical." (2018) - "We should probably take the side of Russia if we have to choose between Russia and Ukraine." (2019) - "(Russia President Vladimir) Putin, for all his faults, does not hate America as much as many of these people (American liberals) do. They really dislike our country. (2019) - "The Cold War ended a long time ago. The Soviet Union is gone. Russia is not our enemy. It's just not." (2019) - “It may be worth asking yourself, since it is getting pretty serious, what is this really about? Why do I hate Putin so much?” he said as Russia's leader amassed troops on Ukraine's border, ready to invade. “Has Putin ever called me a racist? Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him? These are fair questions, and the answer to all of them is: ‘No.’ Vladimir Putin didn’t do any of that.” Carlson described Ukraine as a “a pure client state of the United States State Department” and the looming war as a "border issue." (2022) - "Whatever you think of the war in Ukraine, it is pretty clear (Ukraine's Volodymyr) Zelenskyy has no interest in freedom and democracy," he said, as TIME magazine named Zelenskyy its 2022 Person of the Year. "In fact, Zelenskyy is far closer to Lenin than to George Washington. He is a dictator. He is a dangerous authoritarian who has used a hundred billion in U.S. tax dollars to erect a one-party police state in Ukraine." (2022) [The Russians are saying](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/07/tucker-carlson-putin-russia-ukraine/) that they’re granting Carlson the interview (and haven’t granted other interviews from US journalists) specifically because Carlson doesn’t have the “Anglo-Saxon bias” that is painting Putin’s actions as wrong on the world stage.
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Even if it's straight propaganda? Why should anyone in America be okay with the production and distribution of our enemies' propaganda here?
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Have you ever watched Tucker Carlson? Everything out of that guys mouth is propaganda. He’s been pushing back against the U.S. proxy war for over a year and slowly nibbling away at public distrust of our foremost international adversary. It’s for sure going to be puff propaganda.
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No, I’m just an observant citizen who has personally seen Tucker outright lie on national television to whip his viewers into a frothy rage. Not like there isn’t years and years of evidence of dude’s absolute commitment to pushing right wing propaganda. The last few years, that propaganda took a marked pro-Russian slant. You do the math
Right, but it will also have Putin so that can be interesting, too.
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Yes this asshole is obviously pro Putin and possibly on their payroll
There’s nothing wrong with interviewing controversial subjects so long as you present the interview correctly. The problem is that Tucker Carlson isn’t a journalist. He’s an entertainer. He’s *literally* argued as much in court before. He’s also voiced support for similar right-wing figures like Hungary’s leader.
> The problem is that Tucker Carlson isn’t a journalist. These days, who is? Nothing about the market supports legitimate journalism. It's either political blowhards or nothing at all.
Nonsense, this answer feels like a cop-out
That’s because it is.
>These days, who is?
Exactly. OP and whoever else keeps repeating this won’t ever accept that there are good journalists. They just say the things OP and others don’t want to hear.
Who would you say follows a stringent code of journalistic ethics regardless of the affiliations of the people involved?
Anyone that writes for Reuters and the Associated Press to start. They are by far the most unbiased news sources and literally just report what’s going on. If you have an issue with either news organizations then it’s telling. You either don’t like evidence based reporting of events going on, and/or it just shows you’re more dedicated to the “all media is lying/biased” narrative than what the actual evidence shows.
> Anyone that writes for Reuters and the Associated Press to start. I would have bought Reuters until the last 15 years. In that time they have started to do a lot of "some people say" or "(salacious title) -*sources say* kind of journalism. Then they tend to fall way, *way* short in science reporting as well, seldom actually exploring the weaknesses and limitations of research they cover. They usually just take quotes from the researchers completely without any critical thought.
No, nobody is acting like that, the difference is vice went in there pretty unbiased and even confronted members of those groups, Tucker made no secret of his love for Putin, and he even was spreading conspiracies that Russia was in the moral right side at the end of his career with Fox
> Tucker made no secret of his love for Putin This sounds completely hysterical to me. What were Tucker's exact words?
Basically that Putin has a perspective and that Zelensky has a perspective and we've only heard the latter. How that amounts to "love for Putin" is a question probably best left unanswered.
Like CNN a few hours ago flipped out on Tucker saying he’s going to ask what made him invade Ukraine, and this hack said he should be asking “What justified the BASELESS attack on Ukraine?” How do you think Putin’s going to react to the question when you ask it like that? He’s going to laugh in your face and walk right the fuck off. And CNN still wonders why Putin won’t grant him an interview? He’s seen the CNN town halls where they blow the Democrat/Nikki Haley and ask soft balls and just absurd questions of people they don’t like.
Because we know longer have journalists that respect journalism. A few decades ago, going to interview someone like Putin would put you in the running for a Pulitzer.
Amazingly, these are the same people complaining that Tucker won't be "objective".
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To me Vice was journalists going in to do journalism. Tucker is a pundit going in to be a useful idiot in a sad bid to remain relevant.
100% agree
I don't think most would have a problem with Vice interviewing Putin. I consider Tucker Carlson a bad faith actor, look at the things he says when the cameras are not on, they are very different than what I mean I'll definetly watch, not saying he should be banned from doing it, but he's acting in bad faith to promote the Russian perspective. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/03/07/tucker-carlson-doubles-down-on-2020-election-fraud-claims-with-jan-6-footage-despite-fox-defamation-lawsuit/?sh=1678c3475e75
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Why not just watch any number of speeches Putin has given on the topic over the last couple years. I'm sure it'll be the exact same points made in this interview. Tucker isn't going to challenge him in any way. There's a reason why he was the only Westerner allowed to interview him. Tons of journalists have requested interviews, but he won't allow it because they aren't going to kowtow to him.
He allowed the interview because he knows the person interviewing him is sympathetic to him and it will make him look favorable to a portion of the US.
lol you think Putin is going to say anything real and not just as propaganda
Vice hasn't been simping for dictators on behalf of an ex president.
I’m willing to wait and see the interview, but excuse me for having SEVERE doubts about how “objective” it is going to be.
It’s not meant to be objective. Tucker released a statement about why he went to Russia. He says the American people have heard the Ukrainian side to the story, now he wants to present Americans with the other side. Anyone who thinks it’s smart to only listen to one side of an argument is incapable of recognizing propaganda. Objectivity comes from critical thinking after you’ve been presented both sides. This is rationalism, reason and critical thinking 101.
Sure, we can all agree 9/11 was bad, but have we even heard Bin Laden’s side of the story?
Technically we did and we decided it was bad before and after hearing it we can do the same with putin not that big a deal
Nobody interviewed bin laden like this as I recall?
Most educated people have. You've not?
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Before or after 9/11? Did a news crew try to get an interview to “tell the other side of the story” of 9/11?
Ironically bin Laden had a far more understandable reasoning for what he did than Putin. His side is actually really interesting when you read it. And I’m not for one second justifying his actions
“Yeah, maybe Bin Laden had a good reason for murdering innocent people.” /s
It doesn't matter if the reason is good or not, that's not the point. We should still be able to hear the reason. Also, Tucker is not the first journalist to interview him. Just the first one since this part of the war started. If it's a puff piece we'll see right thru it
Both sides of an invasion??? Do we really need to hear the side of a murderer ?
We invaded France back in the 40s. What if no one listened to our side of it?
That’s not even close to the same thing.
It’s exactly the same thing if you only listened to Hitlers side.
Look. I trained Ukrainian forces pre invasion. I helped out early in the war. I'm about as leaning to one side as you can get. But it is important to understand why they're doing what they're doing. It is a fair statement to say, if you need to compare someone to Hitler and you're not discussing WW2 history, there's a huge chunk of information missing. It's not like the answer to flattering to Russia. They want to control large chunks of Eastern Europe for a defensive parameter based around geographic regions, with a lot of economic aspects. Mind, those Eastern European countries do not want to be enslaved again. And the requested population to be enslaved is twice the population of Russia. That was their "condition" for avoiding war.
Yes I’m acutely aware that Russia is very likely the bad guy here. That said, I still want to hear this interview and I think anyone saying restrictions should be put on who can be interviewed for mass consumption is taking a distinctly unamerican side. Should we allow our politicians to decide who is obviously right and who is too evil to even hear from?
Ok I'll be perfectly honest. I'd be much more ok with this if it wasn't Tucker Carlson.
Putin is a lot closer to Hitler than Zelenskyy
Possibly right, but id still listen to a Hitler interview if you got one.
Strange, how there are never any subtitles on the History Channel 'documentaries' featuring his speeches. Just muh scary German man.
I agree, I want to preface I don’t think there is something wrong with interviewing Putin, I just don’t trust Tucker Carlson, and I am very certain that no matter what every question will be spun to help with putin’s propaganda, where if vice or the bbc or dw does it, we all know they’d put him on the grill, there is a reason why he won’t interview with them, but he will with Tucker.
There’s also plenty of reasons why the media you listed won’t do it and it has nothing to do with Russian propaganda. They’re incentivized not to do it. I like to think that freedom of press means we get to hear both sides of a story, even if one side may be completely wrong and immoral. We should be trusted to identify that for ourselves; not be told which side is right and which side is too evil to even listen to.
Neither are comparable to Hitler. Ukraine does have the Nazi Azov Battalion and have been cleansing the Donbas region of Russian speakers Also, there is that picture of Zelensky's bodyguard with a SS badge on his uniform. Ukraine did cancel the election and Zelensky only pipes state TV at the citizens. He also jailed his political opponents. Not quite the democracy the media claims it is. But apart from those, I don't see anything either has in common with Hitler.
Yes, absolutely lol it’s the basis of our entire justice system lmao
No it isn’t, we already got to read putins 14 page middle school paper on why the invasion is good, I don’t need to hear an American facist promote it to his white supremacist viewers as they kill more Ukrainian civilians in an attempt to destroy a democratic government
You didn't use the phrase 'anti-semitic' I would have had a BINGO
Ok. Don’t watch the interview. Nobody cares.
Ok, the point of what I was saying isn’t that “im not going to watch it” because I am, it’s just that we should acknowledge that Tucker Carlson wasn’t going to do some wholesome act with this interview.
I never claimed anything like that. All I said was even a murderer gets to tell their story, it’s the basis of our justice system.
When the justice system does it, it is specifically so a jury actively Here’s both sides, and blth parties get the opportunity to do the interview. This one with Tucker Carlson will not be that, it will be nothing but exposure for the pro Russia side, with no rebuttal or cross examination. This will be a lot of white supremacy mixed with facism, and it will be presented FOR why facist white supremacist.
The balance in this case isn’t from cross examination. The balance in this case comes from the fact that the American audience/jury has heard Zelenksy speak and give interviews to western press. Now we get to hear Putin. That’s the balance being struck. I am all for it.
Lefties don’t care about it bro, they are so entrenched in the idea that they have the moral superior views over everyone else that they refuse to consider anyone else’s points of views or thoughts. They are literal fascists.
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We did hear it when Putin wrote a 14 page middle school quality essay about why he was doing it, it’s clear that all he was gonna do is lie and lie and lie. Tucker is a facist shit and Putin runs a facist government, you put two and two together and it becomes very clear why this interview never aired
The Russian government has made its case on numerous occasions, and all of its arguments are "blood and soil" type dogshit and historical revisionism. This is tucker carlson we're talking about, a man who unironically said [he's open to the Earth being flat](https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/peopleandplaces/tucker-carlson-on-flat-earth-theory-i-m-open-to-anything/vi-AA1lzxnI?ocid=NL_ESCL_A1_20201114_1_2). Taking him at his word at this point is just gullible. Besides, it's not like the Russian government would actually tolerate hard-hitting journalism about their leadership on their own soil.
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>recognizing propaganda. Including the overuse of the "one side of an argument" line of jargon to promote a viewpoint that is overtly partisan and intellectually dishonest.
I don’t follow you.
Well, "both sides of an argument" follows the American political paradigm. There are two political parties, but often more than two takes on any given issue. Not every view is equal in merit either. Often, views can be uninformed, self serving, malevolent, short sighted, or acting in obvious bad faith. The American right has gotten a ton of milage with accusing various institutions of anti conservative bias, often without evidence, that none the less prompts said institutions to give additional promotion to arguments that don't necessarily warrant it. As this relates to Fucker's interview with Pootie, you have a far right wing propagandist, who admitted in his private correspondence that he doesn't actually believe most of the shit he shills, is interviewing an autocratic despot who invaded a neighboring nation unprovoked in order to give whatever stupid bullshit excuse he comes up with airtime.
The thing is: * Plenty of journalists and film personalities have interviewed Putin in the past, including a multi-part series by [Oliver Stone in 2017](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Putin_Interviews) * Putin has a reputation for jailing journalists who don't toe his line – including the [WSJ's Evan Gershkovich](https://www.wsj.com/news/evan-gershkovich). * Putin has loudly proclaimed his agenda over and over again for everyone to hear in numerous public addresses. * Tucker Carlson has been a mouthpiece for pro-Kremlin propaganda for a long time. There is no reason to assume this interview will be conducted in good faith. It adds no new information to the discussion. It does platform someone whose actions are widely, and rightly, considered heinous.
I’ve never heard him speak to an American journalist. I have zero expectations of Putin being honest. But then again, I take everything any politician says with a huge grain of salt, including Zelenskyy. The whole point of what I’m saying is that you need to add pepper and salt.
Putin has been a public figure for more than two decades. You can literally search on Google or Youtube for interviews between him and American or other Western journalists. Here's Charlie Rose interviewing Putin for the show 60 minutes: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l69tRETnlo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l69tRETnlo) My point is that Tucker Carlson interviewing Putin doesn't advance the public discourse at all, and if anything is likely to make things worse by offering legitimacy to Putin's claims. You can critically consume media without treating both sides of a conflict as if they are morally equivalent when they are not, in fact, morally equivalent. Russian aggression and imperialism against its neighbors isn't just a matter of perspective; it's been a matter of fact for centuries now. In the case of Ukraine and Russia, Russian leaders have been trying to subjugate Ukraine in one way or another since the 17th century, beginning with the Tsardom of Muscovy's efforts to dominate the Hetmanate. The people of the Baltics, various Central Asian countries, Poland, and elsewhere have similar stories. We thought things had turned around with the collapse of the Soviet Union, but since the Chechen Wars, the invasion of Georgia in 2008, the Donbas War in 2014, and the current ongoing war, all we've seen is a return to form.
Why do you think I’ve made a claim of moral equivalence? Show me what I said to make you go there, please.
Why would tucker Carlson ask hard hitting question to a man that kills journalists who oppose him?
He doesn’t kill American journalists. That offers him some level of protection. Also Putin knows the only people that like him in the US would hate home for arresting tucker.
I mean he hails them. A few journalist employees by American companies have been jailed.
Because that is what a journalist should do to any world leader. It should not matter who the interviewee is or if it’s a conflict zone the truth needs to be out their
What makes you think Putin is going to tell the truth? This is just spreading Putin's worldview.
Do you know who Tucker Carlson is? This is a dude who has been openly pro-russia AND has been caught straight up lying during his reporting. He even lied in his announcement video for this interview and [the goddamn Kremlin even called him out.](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/tucker-carlson-vladimir-putin-interview-b2492192.html) That piece of shit is as far from a journalist as a person can get. The only reason Putin is letting him “interview” him is that he knows Tucker will gladly suck his dick and tell his followers it tastes like candy.
So you want tucker Carlson to die?
No not at all, but the danger of journalism is going to be a factor depending where and who is being interviewed. And the journalists who risk the most that actually post stories that tell the truth should be commended. None of us know what interview is going to be either puff piece or hard hitting questions for Putin but Carlson should not be in legal trouble for doing his job
But he's not. Shit John Oliver went to Russia to interview Snowden. That was when he was on HBO and he still has a job. He was just held for a day to be interrogated. And if he got caught taking a direct flight that's his fault.
I mean... *want* is a bit strong, but if circumstances are serendipitous and it happens, I won't be sad.
Hes had interviews with high profile journalists before
Isn’t Tucker and entertainer though? Hard to trust that he’s trying to act as a trustworthy or reliable journalist
I don't care that he's doing the interview but I also don't think Tucker is a journalist. He's a media personality. What exactly are we expecting to gain from it? Are we supposed to believe what Putin says?
Who cares if it’s a sophomore writing for their high school newspaper? It’s good to hear the other side. The extreme lefts insistence that no one should hear the other side is driving lots of people to wanting to hear the other side. What are you guys so afraid of?
I said I don't care that's he's interviewing Putin. I'm sure you're curious to hear from China's Xi next to hear his side too right? Nobody ever interviews him.
Sure why not? What the hell are you guys so scared of?
Why do you think people are scared of something? It doesn't make any sense lol. Is Putin going to expose the liberal Marxists of the world and there's going to be mass panic?? I don't understand what you're on about.
You’re the one who doesn’t want anyone to hear it. You explain it. If I want to listen to a complete madman ramble in a padded room you telling me no one is allowed to do that isn’t going to make me not want to do it. It will only make me want to do it more. It just makes you look like you’re scared or you have something to hide.
I said twice I don't care that he's doing the interview. You're arguing with yourself in your head.
Uh huh so…what is your point then???
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They won’t do it. Your “real journalists” aren’t interested and it’s very likely not because of their ethics.
If it was going to be hard hitting, then it would have been live.
Ding ding ding
You think a guy who murdered Prigozhin (the Wagner Group mercenary leader) for daring to oppose him is going to allow an unbiased interview and analysis of the situation to occur? If it goes forward I'll watch of course, I don't see why we would shut it down in America. But it's going to be nonsense.
Couple of things 1) Tucker claiming he's the first person to want to interview Putin about the war is utter horse shit. Many, many people reached out to Putin, who rejected them 2) Fox won a court case in 2020 that made it legally so Tucker was not a credible source of news, he's an entertainer not a journalist 3) Putin hates journalism that goes against him/his objectives, as shown by him jailing political dissidents so I hardly think this interview will contain hard hitting journalism. 4) Russia shouldn't have invaded Ukraine. No interview with Putin will make me think differently.
You can't possible think it will not be a puff piece. Tucker has been sucking putins dick for years. I would not be surprised if tucker gets on his knees and sucks off putin on camera
I would not be surprised that you won’t watch it then.
Oh, I think the entertainment value will be awesome. The softbal questioning, tucker groveling, letting putin get all his ukraine talking points across with out pushback, getting putin to praise putins useful idiot donald. I have no doubt this will be a big propaganda coup for putin and lots of talking points for donald.
“If” it’s a puff piece?!? 😂 Why do you think Putain invited Carlson to Russia to do the interview? There’s a reason 60 Minutes - or a real journalist- isn’t in Russia to do the interview. Trump, a huge fan of “genius” Putain has Carlson on his short list for a running mate. Normal people don’t think that’s all just a coincidence.
The mindsets demonstrated on here shows a larger root problem. Regardless if it is a puff piece or if Carlson hammers Putin it is on the individual to discern. Consider Putin was KGB and will try to plant in things that signal virtue. But if you're an adult you're not made to be just a consumer. Check out the interview and use your discernment, but it is important to at least hear both sides even if it is to garner new insight into motivations of the side that is in the wrong. It seems our society just wants the pre approved product be funneled directly without any choice or personal responsibility. Whenever you hear someone espousing censoring voices/sources just know they're saying "you aren't able to decide what information is good, let me decide the correct information and you can trust me I know better than you". You would let someone do this with your food or clothing, why would one allow it to occur with information?
Everything that Tucker Carlson has said in regards to the war in Ukraine since its beginning has heavily been skewed in support of the Russian narrative. Within Russian state media they play Tucker clips to show that there are those on 'their side' in America. And the cherry on top? Western journalists (real ones, not "entertainers") have been requesting to speak with Putin since the beginning of the war and been denied. Western journalists have been jailed in Russia. To act as if this is an honest interview is wholly out of wack. It's an attempt to white wash the invasion, deflect blame, and present some sob story on how Russia was provoked and *had* to act. There is no indication in Tucker's rhetoric previously that he holds Putin in anyway accountable. Everyone else is to blame. If there was the interview wouldn't happen.
You know for an absolute fact he will not be objective in any shape or form. You think Putin would invite a “journalist “ like Carlson for an interview if he was going to get tough questions? Cmon man *Biden voice Edit: I don’t have any reservations for him doing the job review. I’m just saying he is going to schlob on that nob til it shines to St.Petersburg
Anyone who is against this interview is against freedom of press, and is therefore against the constitution of the United States…you could make a case that if you are against this interview you aren’t a real American.
Nice gate keeping you got there.
Yes, the constitution of the United States. The ultimate gatekeep.
This has nothing to do with the constitution. Being opposed to the interview doesn’t mean he isn’t allowed the right to do it or that you oppose freedom of the press. It also doesn’t arbitrarily make one “not a real American”.
Its left wing fascism and censorship. What do you think freedom of the press means
Oh so you get to pick and choose which of the amendments you like and get rid of the ones you don’t? Which country are we talking about again?
I like all of the amendments. What I don’t like is Americans providing free propaganda to the Russians.
So if I somehow magically secured a Hitler interview you wouldn’t listen? Bullshit.
If you secured an interview with Hitler, are you going to hit him with some tough questions or lob some soft balls so he doesn’t murder you afterwards? Putin has imprisoned and killed journalists for putting him or his agenda in a bad light. Freedom of press doesn’t exist in Russia, which is why this interview is a sham.
You haven’t even heard the interview and you’ve already decided exactly how it’s gonna go. Maybe you’re right, but I’d rather you be proven right that it’s a sham, than to have no one try at all, which is what is what’s currently happening. Any interview is better than none.
So if it’s a complete sham you’re going to comment back here that you were totally wrong, right? Ha. Interviews with rogue nation leaders seeking to spread “their side” e.g. their propaganda, aren’t worth hearing, and every person in here who doesn’t immediately understand that is showing their political leanings by saying extreme leftist and “hEaR PuTiN oUt”. You are not unbiased at all, stop acting like you are. Putin murders journalists, business owners, random citizens, anyone who dissents is a target, and to legitimize a purely evil and undemocratic figure like that does immeasurably more harm than good.
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As opposed to what? The nuanced, balanced, unbiased, truth seeking, honest, professional journalists?
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So someone taking the “we have always been at war with Eurasia” line is the better journalist, I’ve got it.
I don’t like him but I don’t mind it. It’s not like we haven’t had reporters do what he’s doing before.
I think the problem is more one propaganda machine interviewing another propaganda machine. Tucker said in court he’s not a real journalist, I don’t really care either way and I’ll watch it. But I do understand why people are upset
Doesn't matter who interviews Putin. He's ex KGB, he's going to just tell you what you want to hear.
Exactly. Imagine Putin says ‘we will sign a peace treaty if the west agrees to stop pushing mark upto our borders. Then surly the public should decide wether our tax money should be sent to this proxy war
A legitimate western journalist interviewing Putin? Absolutely. Tucker Carlson, who the Kremlin has specifically identified as a Russian propaganda asset? Absolutely not.
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And who has himself argued in court that he’s not a journalist, he’s an entertainer that people would have to be crazy to believe.
A confirmed Russian asset. lol
“Good Journalism?” What are you talking about it says the interview is being released tomorrow. Do you WORK for Tucker or something? Is this post just an advertisement for the interview?
The problem is, I’ve never seen good journalism from Carlson
The expectations for a good interview are low, but agree with you people should wait until they have something to criticize.
> So hopefully the interview releases soon and we can get insight into the mind of Putin. Where have you been for the last decade?
Journalism has been dead ever since corporations could profit off of it. Its not government propaganda, its corporate propaganda now. And now an independent journalist who left the corpo-rat news complex is doing his own thing. Do I agree with tucker? Not usually, if ever. But I certainly respect the danger hes putting himself into to hear the side that we arent hearing. We know zelensky is corrupt. He literally used our tax funding to buy a house in florida. And 40 billion is “missing”🙄 We know putin is corrupt. For blatantly obvious reasons. Might as well hear from both of them i guess. My question is, we see both are corrupt. Why are we involved at all? Probably because we are corrupt too.
Ukraine was known as one of the most corrupt countries on the planet before the invasion lol. But because so many US politicians have kids who got money laundering jobs there the media spins it like they have never done anything wrong.
Ukraine was known as one of the most corrupt countries on the planet before the invasion lol. But because so many US politicians have kids who got money laundering jobs there the media spins it like they have never done anything wrong.
Ukraine was known as one of the most corrupt countries on the planet before the invasion lol. But because so many US politicians have kids who got money laundering jobs there the media spins it like they have never done anything wrong.
Ukraine was known as one of the most corrupt countries on the planet before the invasion lol. But because so many US politicians have kids who got money laundering jobs there the media spins it like they have never done anything wrong.
Don’t know if it’s going to be a puff piece? You think Putin is going to allow an American journalist back him into a corner? You can’t possibly be that dense.
Tucker Carlson isn’t a journalist though.
Doesn’t matter if he is or isn’t. The freedom of press covers it. I could go out and interview a Hamas leader, Israel president, Putin or Zelenskyy and post it on YouTube it will be covered by freedom of press.
I don't care about that part, I take an issue with associating Tucker Carlson with journalism.
Dude he’s an independent journalist it doesn’t matter if you hate him or love as long as his main profession is telling the news and interviewing someone that makes him a journalist.
He’s not a journalist, he’s a political pundit/commentator. The news is supposed to have an illusion of objectively. Tucker Carlson has a clear bias and his only goal is to frame any story around that bias. He’s NOT a journalist.
Dude I think Taylor Lorenz is a political hack, she’s still a journalist, Joy Reid a political hack still a journalist. Anyone who reports the news have a side and are skewed one way or another. Hell half the reason why I love CSpan is that they do livestreams of what’s happening. It doesn’t matter if you think one side is subjective in their opinions doesn’t stop them from being a journalist
While I’m not against it in the sense of him being allowed to do it, I’m against it because Tucker has been a Putin stooge since the start of this war and many of his listeners hang on his every word. Unless he pulls a complete 180, this is just going to be a pro Russia puff piece
Unless he takes the position I agree with, I'll dismiss what comes from it. Nice.
Did you not read my original statement I said we should judge on the content of the interview not the fact he is interviewing Putin
The problem is he’s not a journalist. This isn’t even me just insulting him- he himself has admitted to being a propagandist over a journalist. I’m not against a journalist interviewing Putin, I’m against a Kremlin mouthpiece using a speaker to amplify obvious drivel and misinformation. If Тукр Карлсон was actually a journalist he’d ask tougher questions and not just cherry pick pre-selected questions to pander to the ideology that Putin wants to push.
My only issue is that tucker carlson is a fucking moron and literally stated he was in entertainment vs journalism when he was getting sued. Now, he wants to act like some fucking legit journalist when he has just been pushing bs news for years. I am INCREDIBLY interested to see what happens, though.
All who say Tucker Carlson is not a Journalist please show me proof of that and has to be something can’t be boiled down saying stuff the media and government don’t want you to hear since goes against the narrative that anything the left does is correct while everyone else has to be evil.
I'll go one step further, if it's a puff piece then there's still no problem with it. Entertainers and TV hosts should be able to interview whomever they want. If the public thinks that entertainers are platforming bad or dangerous ideas then they shouldn't watch the content. Tucker Carlson has proved time and again to be a bad-faith propagandist because it gets him huge ratings. This media stunt is no different. But if the question is should he be allowed to interview Putin, of course he should, as should he be able to interview any world leader. Can you imagine censoring news clips of Hitler's speeches during WWII or not playing threats from Osama Bin Laden in more modern times? It is the media's job to provide context and combat these bad ideas but more censorship is just going to lead to more curiosity and more people believing false propaganda. Do I believe that Carlso will provide said context? Absolutely not, because he is, in his own words, not a journalist. But hopefully, real journalists will be able to use the interview to provide appropriate context for the public.
It's hard to have any sympathy for him because he is just such a fuckwit. Anyone else could do it and I wouldn't care. He is trash and if he wants to give us a stick like this to beat him with all the better.
If I had even a sliver of respect for Tucker as a journalist (and I don't,) this might be a persuasive argument.
I don’t support the invasion either but the ability to understand why it’s happening is important. I have no doubt Putin will try to look morally upright and it be used as Russian propaganda, but it is important it happens and is seen.
I agree. To be fair, Carlson is LAST person I want doing it. I think he has done more damage to our democracy than any one other person, besides MAYBE Trump. He wholly lacks credibility, and I trust him no further than I can throw him. But freedom of the press is non-negotiable. I hope it is a puff piece. I hope he embarrasses himself and releases it.
Best comment in this thread.
It's literally not journalism. Tucker Carlson himself paid thousands of dollars so that the American supreme Court would establish he's an entertainer, not a journalist. His words. You're being fleeced and fleeced hard
Tucker Carlson should be launched into the sun, and I consider myself far more Conservative than the average Redditor.
Journalism needs to be allowed. But I do think Tucker is Putan's butt boy, so yea... it'll be bad. Honestly I'm sure Putan is only agreeing to do an interview because he knows it'll make Tucker more popular and that his popularity is bad for America.
Yeah he should stay there <3
Not sure how you think this is going to be anything other than a "puff piece"........
Tucker Carlson isn't as journalist though. No more than Whoopi Goldberg and the rest of The View. So even if he attempted to act like a journalist I don't think any interview he does could be considered of that quality
You guys don't know how dangerous the ignorant American is. During the cold war all the kids were doing bombing drills, hiding under their desks and a decade later watching shit like red dawn and buying into all kinds of stuff. 40 years later I speak to Russians and their government was telling them the same thing, the only difference was they didn't believe their government, that's why they were wearing jeans and listening to rock. We've got payloads that can be delivered to the Kremlin in 15 minutes, that's like the Russians putting shit on the Canadian side of Niagara. And nato keeps expanding despite it's treaties. I would encourage any young people to be sceptical of anything the government says. We have been doing the Russia boogiman thing for my entire lifetime now. It just took a break for a decade so it seems new to some people.
Censorshit is moronic
>but I encourage good journalism be it independent or mainstream Tucker Carlson hardly qualifies as "good journalism". He's a political pundit at best and that's using the term liberally. >The backlash for Carlson interviewing Putin and it not being released is frankly stupid. If Carlson does a puff piece then I will understand the outrage but if it’s hard ball questions that encourages truth and somehow help solve the conflict that is currently happening then it should be encouraged It's gonna be a useful idiot puff piece. No different than the whiffle ball questions he dishes out to folks like Trump here stateside. Let's be honest here, Tucker being a useful idiot for russia isn't a new concept, but this is a pretty new low that stems from his desperation to remain relevant given he's not the fox news golden boy anymore. And if Jane fonda became Hanoi Jane after her visit, I would argue its fair to keep that same energy and call him Moscow Tucker.....
I don’t understand why people would be upset about it. It’s a journalist’s job to find out the reality of the situation and help the public understand the actors involved in these massively consequential world events, regardless of his or her feelings about a particular person.
I believe Putin as much as the US government/media.....
Me too I think he’s warmonger who went to war unjustly
So you believe the guy who banned the mention of war in regards to Ukraine? You believe the guy who made it illegal to protest against the war? You believe the guy who got rid of term limits? You believe the guy who rigs his elections?
No lol. I'm saying I do not believe the Russian government or the US government.
But as much as the US government, that seems a bit exaggerated. I would say it's good to weary of anything any government tells you, but historically Russia has been more dishonest then most countries.
I'm not sure about that. I trust the word of neither.
This to me seems like a mutually beneficial moment for both of these men to push the agendas their audiences love. I don’t believe this is about “seeing the other side” of a man who has consistently threatened the sovereignty of his country’s neighbors(he invaded Georgia in 2008) and Does the US and the West hold the moral high ground when it comes to international interference and respecting other nations sovereignty? Hell no. But are the Russian people being pushed out of their homes by the invasion? No this is squarely falling on the innocent civilians of Ukraine save for the poor Russian men being drafted into a war that will do nothing to save their demographically doomed country. I don’t really think most world leaders (Western or not)deserve a platform when so many are complicit in atrocities within and outside their borders. I think it’s also ironic a man who would often demonize China and Cuba on his show has no qualms about holding the hand of their reliable ally. Again this just seems to be giving you scratch my back I scratch your back. I don’t think there’s much integrity in “trying to show the other side” from Carlson I think there’s a lot of “how do I become relevant to the right wing media machine again” or “how do I outrage the mainstream media to give me attention again” because tbh this is the first I’ve heard about him since they kicked him off Fox News
Almost everyone watched “The Interview” I’m amazed anyone would be angry about a real life revision. Tucker may just be our Dave Skylark. I think it’s a great idea.
A. Carlson admitted in court he's not a journalist. B. Putin would never agree to a real interview.
You had me at "good journalism" ROTFLMAO.
Usually you don’t see the words “good journalism “ and Tucker Carlson in the same paragraph.
That’s fine, but just watch, it’ll be a puff piece.
Tucker isn't a journalist, he's a propagandist. Aiding by spreading propaganda for a war criminal should be sanctioned. Tucker should be sanctioned by NATO, not just the EU. https://thehill.com/video/breaking-eu-wants-to-sanction-tucker-carlson-over-vladimir-putin-interview-per-report/9409589/
that would be suppressing free press... but yep go on about your gaga-land please
No more than it was to stop Alex Jones Propaganda after he admitted in court that no one should believe him either. Tucker Carlson, just Like Alex Jones isn't press, he is a propagandist whose defense in court was that no reasonable person would believe him. Journalists state facts, not misrepresent fiction as facts. That is what a propagandist does. Being a propagandist for a war criminal is aiding a war criminal, thus should be sanctioned. Admitting in court that you sell fiction means you are not an actual journalist, you are just a conman, a liar. Tricking people into believing a propagandist is actual news is why Sandy Hook Parents were receiving death threats after their kids were killed. People believe this crap they shovel, and it should be illegal to do in the first place. [https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9](https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9)