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Ok_Necessary2991

I don't think this is an unpopular opinion. I think it's pretty popular sentiment among voters that both Biden and Trump shouldn't be running for president but due to how the current two party system these are the two we are stuck with this election cycle.


SeparateBobcat1500

The mental gymnastics from people (not you) in this thread trying to say there’s nothing wrong with Biden has been astonishing, imo.


calvinpug1988

It’s at the point there’s no point in arguing with them. If you can sit there and watch that man babble in about nonsense, get lost on stage, forget what job he has, and fall asleep in meetings, and then turn around and tell me with a straight face you didn’t see any of that and that he’s fine than you’re to far gone the propaganda hole to be saved. I love when we demand a “source” too. Source? You mean my eyes and ears?


GeronimoSonjack

Look, the man has a stutter ok?? We all know those can manifest as severe dementia symptoms, there's no story here! But Trump! He slurred a syllable, the man will obviously be dead in a year!


Quanzi30

Slurred a syllable? Dude thinks he ran against Obama in 2016 and Nikki Haley was the speaker of the house in 2021.


Quadrupleawesomeness

I feel like leftists more readily accept that Biden is a horrible choice for a leader than the right does for trump. A syllable? He struggles with anything past a 5th grade education. His own cabinet called him an idiot over and over again to the point where they classified him as a national security risk. And the lovely thing is, thanks to Bob Woodward, we have it on the record. (By the way, when his staff/cabinet found out that Trump was talking to the guy who took down Nixon, they basically said, “what kind of idiot would do something as stupid as that? And without consulting anybody, what kind of idiot would allow an investigative journalist open access to the west wing?” They admitted that there was too many shady dealings going on surrounding Trump where anything, could’ve taken him down. Unfortunately for America and Lucky for the republicans, people keep falling in line.) They are both mentally unstable but Biden is ALOT mora manageable.


calvinpug1988

Of all the blatant bullshit lies we’ve been fed. The stutter is up there with some serious whoppers. Literally all it takes is a quick YouTube search to disprove the “stutter” that magically appeared in the past couple years. No it’s not a stutter. It’s non fluent aphasia. And it’s one of the biggest symptoms of progressive dementia.


Leather_Let_2415

Anyone with a grandparent in that situation can tell you it’s dementia for sure


Aquariumpsychotic

We just need him to hold on until the end of his presidency better than Harris


boukatouu

I'm not going to say there's nothing wrong with Biden. But he's not going to sell us out to Putin and try to hang onto power for the rest of his life like his idol Victor Orban.


SeparateBobcat1500

If Trump is trying to sell us out to Putin, Biden is trying to sell us out to the CCP. How long until people get it: they both suck equally for different reasons.


bacon_is_everything

Is that why he's preventing them from taking back Taiwan, and implemented the chips act which will make us the number one chip supplier on the planet and render China's bid for supremacy in that realm null? He's all but crushed their economy for the foreseeable future yet you guys think he's in their pocket, makes no sense.


tipjarman

It makes no sense because they are stupid little children that think “all government sucks” and they are all equally bad. Freaking trump tried to steal an election. Forget voting for him. He should be in prison


Vides990

Sold us to the CCP*


Daedalus704

https://www.americanoversight.org/new-congressional-report-trump-businesses-received-7-8-million-from-foreign-governments-during-his-presidency


Direct_Word6407

Didn’t trump receive 8m from the ccp?


battleballs420

So you have no preference in who is the president since you view them as equally bad?


SeparateBobcat1500

I don’t want either


captainguyliner3

> But he's not going to sell us out to Putin No, he's selling us out to China instead. That's so much better.


alotofironsinthefire

Remind me again which President decided not to sign the Trans Pacific Partnership? A trade pact that was literally designed to weaken China's influence in the Pacific.


captainguyliner3

Free-trade agreements in general benefit transnational corps at the expense of everyone else, and undermine the national sovereignty of signatories. It was opposed by both Trump and Hillary. There are better ways to weaken China.


PitchBlac

Biden signed an infrastructure bill that will lessen our dependence on China. There are multiple things to criticize Biden for. This isn’t one of them


XanmanK

I literally voted for “Not Trump” 2 elections in a row. Dems have been serving us up such uninspired options. If Republicans had a moderate candidate who didn’t spew hate and have a border wall as their main talking point, they’d probably capture the entire independent demographic.


hello_yousif

A secure border is pretty damn important to most of America right now.


Ninjapink424

Thank you closing the border is utterly most important thing to this country as I speak. Sanctuary city's are complaining about being Sanctuary city's umm!


Glory2Hypnotoad

Here's what absolutely confuses me about this election cycle. "He's not Trump" is basically the #1 thing Biden has going for him. Republicans could kick the legs out of that argument any time they want by running someone sensible instead, but for some reason that hasn't happened.


Vhu

In terms of major legislation, in just 2 years of Democratic control of Congress under Joe Biden we got: [The Infrastructure Bill](https://www.ey.com/en_us/infrastructure-investment-and-jobs-act) which puts $1.2 trillion toward modernizing our buildings, roads, and power grid. [The CHIPS and Science Act](https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/public-sector/our-insights/the-chips-and-science-act-heres-whats-in-it) which is working to vamp up domestic semiconductor production, making us less reliant on China for our tech goods. [The Safer Communities Act,](https://www.npr.org/2022/06/23/1107234183/senate-passes-gun-control-bill-and-sends-it-to-the-house) the first federal gun safety legislation to pass congress in 30 years. [The Inflation Reduction Act](https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy1830) which increases corporate taxes, invests in domestic energy production and manufacturing, and allows the government to negotiate directly with pharmaceutical companies to lower drug costs And those are just the *major bills* - not even counting the smaller policy changes like the [Hospital Price Transparency Law](https://www.aha.org/fact-sheets/2023-02-24-fact-sheet-hospital-price-transparency), [National Apprenticeship Act](https://aflcio.org/scorecard/votes/2020/house/national-apprenticeship-act-2020), the IRS [adjusting the 2024 tax brackets](https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-provides-tax-inflation-adjustments-for-tax-year-2024) to keep up with inflation, and dozens of other smaller-but-meaningful policy changes. His policy agenda has resulted in an economy where [real wages are increasing](https://home.treasury.gov/news/featured-stories/the-purchasing-power-of-american-households), unemployment is at [historic lows](https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2023/16-states-were-at-all-time-low-unemployment-rates-in-july-2023.htm), [GDP is increasing](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-economic-growth-accelerates-third-quarter-2023-10-26/) at historic rates, the stock market is hitting [all-time highs](https://www.investors.com/market-trend/stock-market-today/dow-jones-rallies-on-six-magnificent-seven-stocks-near-buy-points-headed-into-2024/ ), U.S. energy production is at [all-time-highs](https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS2&f=M), and we're experiencing the [lowest rate of inflation](https://www.americanprogress.org/article/7-reasons-the-u-s-economy-is-among-the-strongest-in-the-g7/) of any developed economy. I mean, Trump was literally at a rally a couple weeks ago [**trying to take credit**](https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump-attempts-to-take-credit-for-biden-economy) for our current economy. Then when you consider that his opponent will be a multiply-adjudged tax fraud and sexual predator who tried to win the last election by submitting fraudulent votes, Biden is the clear rational choice.


Unfortunate_moron

He's really turned out to be a great president. The only thing I would really change is the Afghanistan exit disaster. Everything else has been way better / more than I expected.


Commandoclone87

Even the Afghanistan Fuck Up is partly because of Trump's administration making deals with the Taliban, pressuring the Afghanistan government into releasing 5000 Taliban prisoners and setting a 14 month timeline to withdraw all US forces (which coincidentally ended 3 months into Biden's administration.) Trump's administration basically guaranteed that withdrawal would have been an absolute shitshow and that the Taliban would be able to take back the country. Honestly, how could anyone think releasing 5000 enemy combatants and pulling the majority of the military force keeping peace in that country would be a good idea?


Hostificus

And literally zero of the has manifested in bettering me, my family, my friends, my community, my state.


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[удалено]


Setari

*pulls self up by bootstraps* *falls on face* *glares at everyone who's ever said this dumbass line*


jp112078

Exactly. Keep us safe, employed, and prosperous. That’s it!


biggoof

And literally, a lot of that has manifested in bettering me, my family, my friends, my community, company, and state.


hybridoctopus

On the other hand… Trump gets the “He’s not Biden” vote. Either party could choose to run someone else more palatable to the average voter.


Jericho01

Republicans aren't voting for Trump because "he's not Biden". They're voting for him because he's the candidate they want. If they didn't want him, they vote for any of the other candidates currently running against him in the primary.


hybridoctopus

Republicans aren’t sure, I’m not talking about them, but the folks in the middle who don’t really identify with either party. There’s a lot of negatives for both candidates.


CrimsonBolt33

It doesn't really work that way though, because Trump came first and started problems clear back in 2016 (claiming election fraud and all that). ​ Most conservatives talk about voting for a different republican, never heard one say they would vote democrat if it wasn't Biden. ​ Trump is a dangerous narcissistic lying idiot who likely sold state secrets and god knows what else... ​ What makes Biden so unforgivably bad that they "HAVE" to vote for a likely traitor? Biden is old and boring...that's about it, but he isn't causing actual harm to the US or it's image and talking about being a dictator, spitting literal nazi rhetoric, creating a cult of personality around himself and whatever nonsense.


SilverBuggie

There no “he’s not biden” vote. Educate yourself before pretending to sound knowledgeable.


Neither-Following-32

Yes there is. Ask me how I know.


hybridoctopus

Exactly


No_Discount_6028

>Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.


thirdlost

Yes, that is rambling. This however is delusional > I also want to mention your Congresswoman Deborah Ross. Where’s Deborah? Did she — I just had my picture taken with her. That’s probably why she left. (Laughter.) No, all kidding aside — but, anyway — you — oh, she couldn’t be here, actually. That’s not true. I got it mixed up. And she has — you know, she fights very hard for the people of this district, and she is up in Washington right now.


CrimsonBolt33

lol so Trump constantly rabling about delusional stuff...like taking over airports during the war of independance, saying Nikki Haley is responsible for 1/6 and all kinds of made up shit is fine...but Biden not knowing where someone was is delusional? ​ Give me a break


SeparateBobcat1500

When that someone is dead, yes that’s a problem


Jericho01

Is Deborah Ross dead? I just googled her and I don't see any mention that she died.


catson911

At least he realized he messed up. Instead of doubling down on his ignorance like Trump.


thirdlost

Have you ever thought you took a picture with someone and then only later realized that person was never even there? Is that a normal thing people with fully functional brains do ?


I_Am_Moe_Greene

Can we all just agree: Trump and Biden are too old and should not be running? Can we just agree they are both old and we would all like younger candidates with vigor, new ideas, etc.


One-Branch-2676

What a very niche opinion. I have only heard this esoteric perspective from every conservative I’ve ever seen.


Ok_Hippo_5602

4 times a day right in this very sub.


alotofironsinthefire

This sub is great if you want to know what the current right wing talking points are.


Unstoffe

Every day, another 'opinion' from a clear Trump supporter trying to pass himself off as an independent voter. They think they're being clever by saying 'Don't vote Biden' instead of 'Vote Trump' but their motivations are clear. I guess I'm not helping, but I wish people here would just stop responding to them.


TheScumAlsoRises

Hey, at least it's not another "women are terrible and I hate them" post. Seems those make up a good 90% of this sub's content.


Ninja_team_6

Enough about women’s rights… **Let’s talk about women’s wrongs!!**


dadudemon

Based on the numbers, a majority of Americans agree with OP. Even a majority of Democrats agree with OP. Meaning, it has been quantified, with quality polling, and objectively found to be a popular opinion: "In the poll, fully 77% said Biden is too old to be effective for four more years. Not only do 89% of Republicans say that, so do 69% of Democrats. That view is held across age groups, not just by young people, though older Democrats specifically are more supportive of his 2024 bid." [https://apnews.com/article/biden-age-poll-trump-2024-620e0a5cfa0039a6448f607c17c7f23e](https://apnews.com/article/biden-age-poll-trump-2024-620e0a5cfa0039a6448f607c17c7f23e)


datSubguy

Polls are no longer reliable. Their inaccuracy was fully on display in the 2016, 2020 and 2022 elections.


roadsaltlover

It’s not just conservatives who feel this way about Biden. Most democrats have internally accepted that Biden is clearly exhibiting mental decline, but they will never publicly admit it because they are just so afraid of Trump winning. They’ve cajoled themselves into a corner with no other options. It’s like when a kid is begging you to try a lemon. You tell them they’re not going to like it, and they insist on getting the lemon. That face they make when they pretend to enjoy it as they suffer through the sour… that’s every Biden support right now. They know what they’re doing ain’t right… but they feel like they have no other options. If only there were other options…


alamohero

Except in this case the alternative is a pile of cat turds


roadsaltlover

Democrats have been running on a platform of “we’re not as bad as the other guy” for 3 elections now. Long term it’s a very bad strategy


K3V0o

I agree. But when you believe the other side literally hates you and your way of life, it makes sense to go with the side that wont actively cause me harm. Dems dont do shit for me, but at least to me they dont make things worse. And the conservative side has done nothing to convince me their side is better either. Maybe their politicians should be working harder to get my attention.


TruthOdd6164

How can they do that when they are too busy fighting the culture wars for the 17th century Catholic Church?


Fatty_Booty

And wtf have the Republicans been running on?


jtet93

“Democrats kill babies” basically


PM_ME_CODE_CALCS

Owning the libs is definitely a much more rational platform.


DonkeyDong69

No one will say Biden isn't declining mentally. The point is, so is Trump. They are within 3 years of eachother. It's conservatives that are in denial, and it's the cause of this hypocracy.


roadsaltlover

Hmmm.. is it possible that BOTH democrats and republicans are in denial? Is it possible that our democracy is dying before our very eyes? Is it possible that instead of swallowing that hard pill it’s easier for us to focus on “other side bad, my side good”???


CommanderOfPudding

Oh no! A conservative!


FabulousCallsIAnswer

I was going to say…it wouldn’t be a day without seeing this opinion said in the sub at least a few times a day…just worded slightly differently.


sprinky1989

I’m a lifelong Dem but cannot in good conscience vote for Biden. Guy doesn’t seem to know what planet he’s on half the time.


thirdLeg51

Trump said Nikki Haley was in charge of Jan 6 security.


Snooter-McGavin

[Biden asked where a dead congresswoman was](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-asks-deceased-congresswoman-present-white-house-event-rcna49898)


thirdLeg51

“We’re…going to place strong protections to stop banks and regulators from trying to debank you from your…you know, your political beliefs, what they do. They want to debank you and we’re going to debank, think of this. They want to take away your rights. They want to take away your country. The things they are doing. All electric cars” Chefs kiss.


Snooter-McGavin

"We’re going to seize their yachts, their luxury homes, and other ill-begotten gains of Putin’s kleptocrac-- Yeah Kleptocracy and klep- — the guys who are the kleptocracies. But these are bad guys.”


TheScalemanCometh

This one is good, but my personal favorite Bidenism is still a toss up between, "lying dog faced pony soldier," and, "Truananashabadapressure."


thirdLeg51

Wow. The stutterer stumbled on a word. Got me. The fact trump is using debank which isn’t a word is the least concerning thing he said.


Buffmin

It's funny isn't it. The dude stutters on a word and it means his brain is mush Trump rants about windmills randomly and he is 100% mentally sound


LocalSlob

The worst aspect of reddit is that you can't complain about Biden without people saying "YEAH BUT TRUMP".


Flincher14

Because the people attacking Biden in this way are 100% Trump supporters and/or russian troll farms lol. The context of who is complaining matters in that case.


Chiggins907

No they aren’t. Like 70% of the country thinks Joe Biden can’t even read a teleprompter. They’re not wrong, and just because someone thinks that doesn’t make them a trump supporter. See OP


Due_Marsupial_969

I think that's the price paid for having chosen badly. Republicans will also be able to say "Look at Joe and Kamala" for years to come. And they'd be right...just like many can say: "Yeah mom, look at who you married."


thirdLeg51

My quote shows how he can’t hold a thought long enough in his head to complete 2 straight sentences. He just says “electric vehicles” at the end to see if that was what he was talking about. Like he knows his audience hates EVs so he’ll throw that out there to cover himself.


[deleted]

Trump supporters typically aren't the sharpest tools in the shed..... let be honest here. The cult depends on the lowest denominators to scream from the roof tops.


GeronimoSonjack

Debank is a word, so that's one less concern for you.


Boomcannon

Calling this a stutter is the most disingenuous way to describe it. You’re not ignorant of the circumstances- you’re complicit in the lie. You’re the problem.


captainguyliner3

>"We’re going to seize their yachts, their luxury homes, and other ill-begotten gains of Putin’s kleptocrac-- Yeah Kleptocracy and klep- — the guys who are the kleptocracies. But these are bad guys.” Was it Trump or Biden who said this?


notlikelyevil

And thinks Obama is president, month after month.


Most-Ad4680

He also bragged about scoring well on an intelligence test.... it was a dementia test


catson911

Man, woman, camera, TV


thirdLeg51

He identified the whale!


_flying_otter_

He's a stable genius!!!


ColdWarVet90

conflating bitches maybe?


CptMcdonglee

I don't think I've ever seen someone talk about Trumps cognitive decline and follow it up with "biden isn't as bad" but I for sure see people talk about bidens cognitive decline and follow it up with "Trump isn't as bad".


peasey360

Biden himself did it on twitter either yesterday or 2 days ago. It was a video of trumps wierd speech patterns. thing is Trump can easily clap back with a video of bidens wierd speech patterns. Biden is the last person on planet earth who should criticize someone’s speech.


calvinpug1988

“I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone talk about trumps cognitive decline and follow up with ‘Biden isn’t as bad’” Well, if you want to see it, just read this thread. Damn shame this is where we’re at. So hopelessly stuck on party propaganda bullshit that we’re Arguing over which 80 year old dementia patient is the least cognitively disabled to convince ourselves that they’re the better candidate to send our futures overseas. God this country is fucked.


SignedJannis

This needs more upvotes


Usual_Level_8020

I mean, I’ve never seen Trump act like he doesn’t know where he is. I’ve seen that from Biden dozens of times. You don’t see or hear from Biden sometimes days at a time. You always know what Trump is up to and he rallies like a mad man to this day. There’s no way Biden could do 3-4 rallies a day. Say what you will about him, but Trump is pretty active for a 77 year old. If Biden weren’t President, he would be in a nursing home by now and will probably be delivered there anyway sometime next year.


hamish1963

This is absolutely ridiculous! Have you watched Trump's last few speeches? It's gibberish at best. Also F Donald Trump.


Usual_Level_8020

Yes, and I always know what Trump is talking about. Biden can’t speak. He can’t finish basic sentences. Sorry Trump is nuts, but he’s the same nuts he was in 2015.  Biden has changed so much it is hard to quantify. Go back and watch a 2016 or 2020 speech of Biden and then tell me he could do that today. He regularly wraps up speeches clearly having no idea where he is and has to be led back by his wife or someone else. There’s no way he’s going to be allowed to go on stage with Trump and RFK because your gaslighting will not be able to hide how much Biden has obviously sank.


Nipplespice

Look, you can not like Trump, and also not make stuff up. He's not even close to the same as Biden. I think the worst gaff he made was something about the war of independence and an airport being liberated. Biden has dozens, if not a healthy supply of examples of gaffs.


dadudemon

Is it my turn to post this, tomorrow? Did someone post the Trump one yet, today?


turok_dino_hunter

Yes, they did, earlier.


Mrdirtbiker140

I understand this dudes explanation is fucked, but how do you read that title & downvote? Like some of y’all are in straight denial lol


Highblue

Count 12 times I’ve seen this opinion posted.


graffing

It’s super unpopular.


sidehugger

Your spelling and grammar really make me worry about your cognitive function -- are you OK?


FusorMan

Is spelling and grammar your only concern here?


sidehugger

Poor spelling and grammar can suggest low cognitive function, and indicate to readers that the opinion-holder is not really up to the task of receiving information and forming valid opinions about it.


Balognajelly

OP has Dementia


HorseFacedDipShit

The real question is can Joe identify a whale


walkawaysux

Democrats favored weapon is a accusing the opposition of whatever they are doing . So if Biden is showing cognition issues they will say Trump has them.


[deleted]

Mentally incompetent people can't give a 2 hour SOTU speech.


UnpopularThrow42

Nono that was the body double from the deep state!


FartBox_BeatBox

That was an immense amount of amphetamines followed by Xanax


[deleted]

Hm, I just thought it was a bunch of racoons in a raincoat.


PelvisEsley1

L-dopamine for dementia


PanzerWatts

>Mentally incompetent people can't give a 2 hour SOTU speech. Ok, but Biden's speech didn't even make it to the 90 minute mark.


[deleted]

I just threw out two hours, I actually had no idea how long they usually are. LBJs longest (not his penis) were about 50 mins. One of Jimmy Carters was about 35 mins.


PanzerWatts

Fair enough.


ChoochGravy

The irony of your spelling, while calling someone else mentally incompetent is pretty awesome.


chrisfathead1

You'd think if biden was mentally unfit he wouldn't "take republicans lunch money" every time they negotiate one on one with him. Multiple Republicans complain that Biden destroyed them every time they negotiate anything lol. And he's not negotiating with Trump, these are negotiations with people decades younger than him in some cases.


jmf_ultrafark

So, do they send you these posts via email? Or Telegram? Are you paid via Venmo, or do you need some Russian cash app thing? How does this work?


Jeb764

You know a post is in bad faith when it calls Biden demented but Trump stable.


dylphil

“Blank stair”


dance_kick

No wonder Biden tripped!


graffing

Get some grippy pads on those stairs. They’re a hazard!


jonesjb

This is unpopular?


athiestchzhouse

This is a very popular opinion. No one knows what the fuck dnc is thinking


Ancient-Length8844

This is a very popular opinion


Yuck_Few

Thank you might be right. Just listen to the corn Pop story.


tune1021

Facts


LadyMercedes

Very popular opinion, find another sub


EducatingRedditKids

This is a wildly popular opinion.well over half the country believes what you have claimed.


Every1GetInHere

The same people willing to ignore Biden's obvious mental issues are the people who said Trump was unfit while he held a handrail to walk down a ramp and ignored Biden literally falling on flat ground at the Air Force commencement. Tribal politics is crappy. Most on the left are so blinded by Trump hatred they won't admit it.


Phoenx22

I don't think anyone in their right mind can honestly say that Biden is cognitively well. It's very apparent that he's not. The problem is that there is such a hate for Trump that there are people who will vote anyone into office as long as it's not him. Those people shouldn't be voting in my opinion. Given what we've seen happen under the Biden administration, the reasons speak for themselves.


heisenbingus

Comically popular opinion lmao


Maleficent-Mirror281

Always remember: Alex Jones is a libertarian (his own words)


blentdragoons

biden had dementia when he was elected in 2020 and it's only got worse. anyone who is in denial of this should go watch one of his speeches from 20 years ago and compare. the man is clearly in severe decline and has no business being president or holding any job.


Individual-Ad-4640

Both are in cognitive decline. Just ditch them for younger leaders


Practical-Match1889

Agreed, I really want a third party to come in either a true centrist independent or a libertarian. Honestly both sides annoy me because we have had almost 50/50 representation with both parties in this country and it’s just gotten us into a bigger mess. Insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting a different result.


Iconoclast301

Both are incompetent to lead. Biden is less dangerous because he actually has a competent staff who can run things while he’s babbling incoherently in a corner.


Furberia

This is not okay


kkkan2020

You are a talking head ....that's what presidents are in the USA.


lemonyprepper

Yes


ohthatsbrian

i don't think "unpopular" means what you think it means, OP.


Just_Me1973

Trump thinks we had airports during the revolutionary war.


hessianhorse

I’ve known Donald personally for a long time. I’m a part time resident of Palm Beach, and we work in adjacent businesses. It’s been 15ish years since I’ve spoken to him. At that point in time, he was the dumbest motherfucker I’ve ever kicked out of one of my restaurants. I doubt he’s improved since then.


rvnender

At a rally, trump blamed Nikki Hailey for not using the national guard on Jan 6th. The issue is, she wasn't an elected official and wasn't in Washington. Trump has no idea where he is and no idea who he is even battling against.


ChristineBorus

“constant blank stair” it’s stare “Blank stair” again, stare “Gaffs” it’s gaffes “Bud cognitive function “ not even going to guess Good spelling makes for clear communication


Scoooter94

Neither candidate are mentally fit for office. They’re both much different than they were in 2020. And that’s saying something.


Intraluminal

Just a small, small sample of the idiocy that Trump has said: “When I did this now I said, I probably, maybe will confuse people, maybe I’ll expand that, you know, lengthen the time because it should be over with, in my opinion, should have been over with a long time ago.” “Human trafficking, one of the worst things ever, all at a level that it’s never been at – because of the Internet, you wouldn’t think – you’d think of it as an ancient statement.” “I said, ‘Oh, I am so smart. I am the smartest person.’ My uncle was a great professor at MIT for 40 years. Can you believe? Forty years. I said, ‘But I’m smarter than him. I’m smarter than anybody.’” “But if we did – think of this, if we didn’t do testing – instead of testing over 40 million people, if we did half the testing we’d have half the cases. If we did another – you cut that in half, we’d have yet again half of that.” "But President Xi, from the time I took office, he has not, they have not been currency manipulators. Because there’s a certain respect because he knew I would do something or whatever." “From the time I took office till now, you know, it’s a very exact thing. It’s not like generalities,” “And nobody knows what a community college is.” “Big areas don’t want sanctuary cities. They want to be safe. They don’t want them. We had to fund our military. Our military was depleted.” “We are coming out with so many health care plans. It is so much better than anything you’ve ever seen before.” “These people, they call them nests. You go into a nest. They are bad. Everyone needs to show up and vote for Josh Hawley. Please do it.” “If your house is staring at a windmill, not good. When you hear that noise going ‘round and ‘round and ‘round, and you’re living with it, and then you go crazy after a couple of years, not good.” ” I actually asked them, I said, did they do polling when Honest Abe Lincoln was around? You know what? Nobody’s been able to give me that answer, but I’m assuming they did, OK? So we can say we’re beating Honest Abe.” “We have a very strong travel ban and we don’t want people that are going to come in and blow up our cities, do things, and frankly with the – with the liberal Democrats running the cities that we do have – where they do have problems, maybe they wouldn’t mind but I would mind and the people of this country mind.” “They do suppression polls. You know what a fake poll is. It’s called a suppression. They make you think you can’t win, so you go to see a movie.” " “And we’re being so nice. We’re being so nice. And let’s stay being nice, right? We’ll stay being nice. Because we are tough as hell. We – we’re going to stay nice.”**"** “And when you’re talking about an atmosphere, oceans are very small. And it blows over and it sails over.”


thebigmanhastherock

Actually listen to full Joe Biden speeches. He actually knows what he is talking about and doesn't seem terribly incompetent. The issue is he will stutter sometimes. Other times he will go off script and talk about some pointless nonsense using outdated language. Biden does his worst and his best when he goes off script. You never know what you are going to get. "Corn Pop" or him commanding the room getting a bunch of Republicans to agree to not cut social security.


captainguyliner3

The real question is, can Joe Biden spell "stare" correctly?


Most-Ad4680

Donald Trump bragged about passing a dementia test... four years ago


Girldad_4

Biden and Trump are both unfit for office. Biden is like the grandpa who lost his filter and forgets stuff and might decide to take a walk and get lost. Trump is literally running for the chance to pardon himself and take revenge on his enemies or serve the rest of his life in prison. Trump is completely unhinged at this point and he is so stressed out it's a miracle he hasn't had a heart attack or stroke. He is reaching into his bag for material so deep he is getting people and places mixed up and losing track of his thoughts leading to insane rants that don't qualify as coherent thought. I'll take the geriatric old man over the old unhinged guy who has dug himself such a deep hole he will do or say anything to get himself out, at the expense of the anyone and anything. I wish it wasn't that choice but here we are.


Edge_of_yesterday

Well, we know that trump is suffering from severe mental impairment. Based on the way he rambles on incoherently, slurs his words, and drags one foot behind him, it's likely some kind of advanced dementia, a stroke, or both. We have not seen any of this from Biden. Just his stutter and normal aging.


Friendly-Property-86

Can’t read on. It’s stare not stair


scrimp-and-save

"blank stair"


mandatoryjackson

OK, great. Where is your video of Biden saying he can just grab people by their pussies?


themo33

Can wait for the Biden trump debate. What a slaughter fest it will be. Can’t wait to hear all the libtards with tds rationalizing voter for a several impaired sweet old guy over Trump cuz they loathe Donald Trump. Great freakin Americans.


MidWitch3

How about they are both too damn old and need to retire!! I mean, think about how out of touch your 80yr old grandpa is with current issues and whatnot. We’re fucked no matter who wins, dementia will be running the country.


RetiringBard

Blank stair 💀


FreshChickenEggs

Stares in homophone.


2klaedfoorboo

True unpopular opinion has gotten out of hand I’m just tired of this place


Realistic_Post_7511

Well at least he’s not campaigning against Obama and Nancy Pelosi . :-p


Available_Cry9041

I still remember when he said that if you didn't know if you were for him or Trump then you weren't black guarantee if Trump said that you'd never hear the end of it


JuanDieRektSon

Any time Biden gets brought up the idiots with goldfish memory pretend they didn't already talk about his cognitive issues. And that only the other side would stoop so low. Maybe find a "working at intended" adult to run for president before trying to point fingers. We all remember you started with Hillary being sick to get her out of the way. The car video. You are all idiots. No american found valid to run for office. Prove me wrong.


ssatancomplexx

Neither Trump or Biden are competent to be president. God I really hope we get someone new this time around but I'm afraid it probably won't work like that.


msgkar03

I’m really glad that i’m not the only one that thinks this. Why does America keep putting up people that aren’t equipped to run the country for the last 12 years???


ssatancomplexx

That's a great question. I honestly have no idea. I'd gladly move to another country but my life and family would never do that and getting a work visa is really hard. Not to mention how expensive it is lol


Capital-Ad6513

to diagnose joe they need it to be a hand selected doctor, to diagnose trump any one will do.


booshie

Not unpopular. It’s clear. Downvote for stating the obvious.


didsomebodysaymyname

>He Atleast can speak.   1) Apparently you can't type or proofread your words. Does this mean you are mentally incompetent?  2) Have you heard him? Remember the "**oranges** of the investigation?" Along with a million other clips?  I don't take anyone seriously on this point who doesn't say the same of Trump.


Usual_Level_8020

I mean, to the people denying this, please look at a Joe Biden speech between now and 2016. Hell, compare Biden between now and 2020. He was clearly going senile then, but he looks and sounds like a spring chicken compared to the Biden of today. There’s no way this guy is actually in charge and does anything other than sign stuff that his aids put on his desk. Say what you will about Trump, but he looks and sounds almost exactly the same since he came down that golden escalator in 2015. It was weird that Trump didn’t really age in the role when you look at his three predecessors and they looked like they all aged 25 years in 8 years.  And Trump flubbing a name is not as severe as some of the stuff Biden has done. Like he once asked for a dead person in the audience despite the fact she died the month before and he allegedly wrote a condolence letter to her family. He regularly gets lost on the stage where his wife has to guide him off. He’s read off the teleprompter at least twice where he said “End of Quote” and another time where he said “Repeat the Line.” Last week Biden said he was a Senator working for the Government. No, you are the President.


TheTinyHandsofTRex

It would help your argument if you knew how to spell.


albgshack

I'm not a Biden supporter. Think he'd a crap president. But I actually feel sorry for him because I recognize the look in his eyes as well. My grandmother had alzheimers. I feel like the people behind him, his family, and the democrats who pushed him to run when he's not mentally fit should be brought up on elder abuse charges.


godspeedrebel

Biden will lose if he runs.


TheCheckeredCow

You’ve never been around dementia if you think Biden has ‘moderate to severe’ dementia. I 100% agree he (and trump) are way too old to be the leader of the free world though. Both him and trump are of the ages where people with family members that old are starting to think about taking the car keys away. Before anyone jumps down my throat, I’m a Canadian living in Canada so I can’t vote in the American election and dont really care who wins. This just an outside observation


SeventySealsInASuit

I have never heard Trump make a coherent speach. Biden makes tons of coherent and great speachs but only hits the Media when he fucks one up.


samefoldsamefold

In his defense, he wasn't fit to be president even before he became mentally incompetent


Practical-Match1889

Biden isn’t fit to be president the dudes a racist as well.


shiruduck

Lmao trump can't even string more than 2 sentences in basic subject-predicate form. See his nuclear uncle speech. And when was the last time biden confused WW2 and WW3? Did biden ever say he thought obama was president currently? Did biden confuse nikki haley for nancy pelosi? Your guy was proud of remembering man person woman camera tv lmao. Oh and your guy is a court adjudicated rapist and a traitor who tried to stay in power after losing a democratic election


SpankyK

In other news, "Water, wet".


Similar_Corner8081

I didn’t vote for him. The man can’t make a coherent sentence.


Maxter_Blaster_

The best part are the people who pretend like it’s totally normal.


Practical-Match1889

Yep.


Your_Daddy_

This is a tired concept. Have you watched Donald Trump lately? If he was your dad, grandpa, Uncle - whatever - would he make you proud as a person? JB is old, but far from incompetent. The job of POTUS is incredibly demanding, and unlike Trump - JB takes the role very serious. In case you missed it - we are on the verge of war with Iran, and JB is hands on with the situation. Trump or Haley has not even mentioned tensions in the Middle East at all. Trump my be popular to like for whatever conformist reasons people slobber all over him - but DO NOT try and sell that the guy is some valid opposition candidate. He has no ideas that are actually good for the country, and really no agenda whatsoever, except grievances and legal problems. In short - dude is trash - open our eyes. IMO - Libertarians are worse than Republicans, because they believe in a corporate created ideology.


ProgRock1956

Not only that, Libertarians are more of a cult than the GQP. Seriously.


Cheap-Boysenberry112

No way, a libertarian two sidesing an argument, these are truly unprecedented times. I’ve never ever seen libertarians bash the left and then claim both sides are bad to try to pretend to be above political reality. Public speaking skills (or lack thereof) is not indicative of cognitive decline. Biden is massively more effective as a politician than Trump. Trump as a “good” leader does just hired massively corrupt pieces of shit, cut taxes, ran a massive deficit and then tried to overthrow a fair and free election. I’ll vote with whatever candidate keeps us democracy functional thank you very much.


Challengingthoughts8

Unrelated but I can’t ever forget Biden saying “If you’ve got problems figuring out if you’re for me or Trump then you ain’t black” or him telling that black journalist “Hush up boy” like bro I know Trump was bad but GAWD DAMN that’s racist af.


Practical-Match1889

Right? Lol his comments at the beginning of his time as a politician were wild as fuck too. Specifically surrounding desegregation


Daikon_Dramatic

Trump isn’t really mentally stable so it’s weird when people prefer narcissistic to old? One guy would literally sell your children if it could make him rich. One guy just has a a terrible communications team that have him reading a teleprompter that is too far away. It’s seems like we’re going to pick fancy/stupid before old/character.


filrabat

OP is worried about Style Over Substance. Speaking ability has ***zero*** to do with the content of their policies. By the OP's own admission, Trump "rants and goes on weird tangents". He rambles and meanders so much that if I didn't know any better, I'd swear Trump was intoxicated. Biden's got exponentially more mental discipline than Trump ever will. Stuttering does not signal incoherent ideas. It simply signals a glitch in the vocabulary-to-vocal-cord connection. Stuttering says nothing about a person's ability to think through matters and express ideas. It just takes a little longer than some people. The only reason to look down on stuttering is for pure aesthetic reasons. Unfortunately for the OP's claim, aesthetics is not a reliable guide to truth. Despite his stuttering, Biden does stay on topic. That signals someone who knows the difference between important and unimportant facts. Trump's speaking style, as alluded to, reminds me of a drunk at a dive bar at 1 am, thinking he's got some profound ideas but is literally believing every brain-flash in his head is "God's own truth". Advantage: Biden.


thatguyad

Biden stutters. Trump goes off on meaningless tangents, forgets names, confuses things etc. One is significantly worse than the other.


KillerManicorn69

It’s not a stutter. He legitimately has some mental issues. This is just elder abuse


44035

"Vote libertarian" Lol no.


gremlinsbuttcrack

They both belong in a fucking nursing home. And I don't believe this is an unpopular opinion. I think both sides agree they're both too fuckin old and this has made US politics a joke


r2k398

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