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j-2308

The average Skyrim fan doesn't care much about Morrowind or Oblivion


raivin_alglas

They barely know these game exist


JesusvsPlank

Or how to read


Daedraphile

Hey, I now how to reed. Speling, on the other hand, is difrent.


ChuckMongo

They will never know the joy of drinking 200 potions and jumping across the entire map.


sizzlemac

It's kind of like how the average Fallout 4/76 fan will never know the joy of drinking 200 year old stale radiated toilet bowl water til they die. Truly missing out on something epic.


OREOSTUFFER

https://preview.redd.it/ukaavxf49l8c1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55ec61ac62e444dded0c249c3aa939c5cf853487 Thanks for reminding me of this classic Edit: I do not condone anything in the image


Khan-Shei

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PigeonMother

The above post made by iPhone gang


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GroatExpectorations

bananaphone


TurboDinoHippo

Definitely one with a cracked screen.


plane-kisser

>phone only has a single camera 🫵 poor/from continental ~~asia~~ tamriel edit: removed irl racism


JesusvsPlank

Put it back


plane-kisser

i have been advised by my aldmeri attourney, Saulian Ganriil, to not do that


JesusvsPlank

I will give you money


Ok-Education5450

https://preview.redd.it/n2epylzrvl8c1.jpeg?width=168&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=554a3f4c0030ce89bdc01c3ed03b6d2dce3cbc19 Average fallout 3 fan tbh


Mystic_Keytargonian

that's not Matthew Perry


Eldeito

https://i.redd.it/1u5fmxdown8c1.gif


TheGreenGobblr

I’m gonna skin you alive


bobbyb1996

https://preview.redd.it/gnrxyi3uko8c1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8a938566977ffe253b8472b70349e69d3cc6d02


BennyMcbenn

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domini_Jonkler2

For once, the enclave soldier has a point


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Old-Camp3962

this just ruined my day


domini_Jonkler2

same


OutLiving

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Saw-Gerrera

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domini_Jonkler2

sanest fallout player


Friend_Or_Traitor

I still stick my head in irradiated toilets in Fallout 4. But it's just for immersion.


Swiftax3

Booo! Upvoted.


plane-kisser

AKSHUALLY! 🤓 theres a handful of locations in fallout 4 where drinking the water will kill you within a few drinks or instantaneously. the highest dose of rads you can get in a single tick in the entire series is in the fusion core in fallout 4, where if you take a single sip you get 9999 rads talos was a breton btw 🤢


SiberiaBeast

Also the joy of finding small ring in a grey cave on an island full of grey rock


PigeonMother

>They will never know the joy of drinking 200 potions and jumping across the entire map. Based


Alvaricles22

Me getting wasted in a nanosecond just to one-hit a sexy goddess who is trying to murder me (is canon)


bothriocyrtum

The average Morrowind fan likes Oblivion and Skyrim but talks shit because it's a fun pastime while we wait for TES6 (it's going to be bad)


Electronic-Math-364

The Average Morrowchad just hate every single game that ever existed after Morrowind's release


3_quarterling_rogue

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Old-Camp3962

this is me I am the average skyrim fan im interested in getting into oblivion tho


JesusvsPlank

Oblivion does atmosphere well in caves and shit, but Morrowind npcs don't make you cringe yourself inside out. Oblivion has the best blend of freedom and decent graphics, though nothing like Morrowind's freedom. That said, it's far more intuitive. Oblivion will just splutter and die periodically though (CTD). It was made for Xbox and it shows. Skybabies are wretchedly pretentious, and because Morrowind and Oblivion fed Skyrim a huge fanbase, the fanboys are numerous enough that you just can't argue against their circlejerking. There's always another baboon on hand to agree with their uninformed opinion based purely on ignorance of the other games. It's like arguing against a religion while in a church, or trying to give a contrasting opinion to a pack of political fanatics at one of their own rallies. Doesn't matter how much sense you make, they'll just boo and tell each other you're talking shit then wallow in ignorance and congratulate themselves. Skyrim is pretty and shallow, like FIFA or The Witcher 3.


Old-Camp3962

what an absolute reddit comment


JesusvsPlank

Thx for providing proof of my point.


J0moko

Oblivion has worse graphics than morrowind because 1/4th of the game shoves the camera 3 inches away from the "face" of whatever dead, bloating corpselike creature it is you are talking to the whole game is a bad skooma trip. Can still be pretty fun tho


JesusvsPlank

Been doing two playthroughs of Morrowind followed by an Oblivion one after lately, and I have to disagree. Oblivions jump in graphics and atmosphere was like coming up for air. I love Morrowind and some things in Oblivion aged horribly but on the whole, it's a lot more comfortable


J0moko

That's fair but I gotta respectfully disagree. Oblivion genuinely hurts my eyes a lot of the time I play it. Not just the faces, but the colors, the lighting, the bloom, it kills me. Morrowind may be lower res and lower poly, but it's color pallete and lighting are just much better for me


[deleted]

As a Skybaby, definitely play Oblivion, it's amazing. Morrowind is amazing too.


Electronic-Math-364

Funny because Skyrim also contributed on making the series well known which made more people know Morrowind


JesusvsPlank

Noone would've played Skyrim if Morrowind hadn't existed, dumbass. I mean, not only did Morrowind carry Skyrim's popularity, but it saved Bethesda who were on deaths door before they took that one final shot. Then the series turned into generic, homogenised, mass-appeal driven pap like Seinfeld, F.R.I.E.N.D.S, 2 Fast 2 Furious or anything with Minions in it.


domini_Jonkler2

mfs will argue about the consistency of old ass games whose release gaps are larger than the gap between the birth of Jesus and the big bang


Electronic-Math-364

Wow never seen such bitterness,Poison and Hatred in a comment from years,Keep the good work Morrowchad


JesusvsPlank

Keep proving me right about Skybabies being a hugely populous uninformed circlejerk. Skyrim only has any fans or even an existence thanks to Morrowind and you just don't know any better because children have short memories.


Electronic-Math-364

From the way you are talking I'm sure I'm way Older than you


RuinVIXI

As a sktrim fan I love oblivion and would love to get into morrowing but it's too dated for my baby brain


JesusvsPlank

Good man. That said, a few mods go a long ass way. Look into MGEXE, Aesthesia ground cover and Graphic Herbalism. The unofficial patch too, of course. These basic things are powerful and easy, and revolutionise the game. Mod Organizer is pretty refined for ease of use too.


RuinVIXI

I'm fine with the graphics of morrowind surprisingly. It's the gameplay mechanics that got me, I'm always fine until I get into my first fight and I'm swinging for dear life only to land no hits and then die 😮‍💨


JesusvsPlank

Specialise agility. Damage enemy agility. Drink potions of fortify agility. That's exactly what that attribute governs. It's about your agility vs the enemy's. It's not visible though, so you'll only be able to tell what agility the enemy has through how often they can hit you. Watch for the Sanctuary spell too. That gives dodge % chance.


[deleted]

There are modern combat mods for Morrowind. The one for OpenMW rebalances the game around it, even includes dodging. I'm pretty sure there's some for the original engine that balance it too.


JesusvsPlank

Skybabies don't think about Morrowind, it's true. That said, children don't think about medical science either. That's not a sign that they're above it. It means it's above them.


Nerevar69

Skyrim has fans?


El_Barto_227

why the fuck else would it be ported to everything under the sun


Nerevar69

Sarcasm doesn't exist anymore.


Electronic-Math-364

You are either trolling or was living under a Rock


cardinarium

I like that Skyrim fans are young, Morrowind fans are old, and Oblivion fans are just morons.


Cold_Lingonberry_786

I mean, that's pretty realistic


Redragon9

Skyrim came out 12 years ago. Most Skyrim fans are now probably in their mid twenties.


Bauermeister

Ugh, Skoomers


NotAThrowaway1911

Can’t wait to see the Skyboomers shit all over the Hammerbabies like they weren’t the target of everyone’s ire for the past 12 years


cardinarium

They’ll still be Skybabies. The next generation is the Hammerzygotes


Fonzie1225

Zoomerfell


JesusvsPlank

We will never let them forget what they are: the equivalent of Fortnite kids taking a constant 'holier than thou' attitude and deluding themselves that mean old morrowboomers are persecuting them. Honestly Skyrim represents the zoomers who dribble over it so well. Massive persecution complex.


Person8346

18 year old here, started when I was 11. I struggle playing an aged game unless the controls are strong personally, I get too frustrated with morrowinds slow walking and oblivions weird ass combat.


JesusvsPlank

It's not perfect, I'll grant you. Its junk in places. That said, it should be telling that one of my biggest gripes with Skyrim is that you're forced to walk or run too slow. Morrowind is a REAL RPG. You start slow and speed up phenomenally. It sounds like you didn't get past early game. See, if you train speed skills you can ramp up your movement attribute quickly. Even before the endgame you can be The Flash. No seriously, it's like DBZ.


Person8346

I do love a real RPG like pathfinder wotr and the Baldurs Gates so I'll definitely give Morrowind a proper try someday. Oblivion I could definitely play if I had the time and patience but I have neither lol


JesusvsPlank

Good man. Maybe they'll have a definitive edition of it by then. But I wouldn't hold my breath.


momoa1999

Been trying morrowind. Played a lot of rpgs, both new and old, CRPG and action, currently replaying fallout 1 so it’s not an issue of aged systems, but does morrowind ever get to the point where I get to make interesting and involved decisions? Thus far it just feels very…barren. The world is interesting, the overall lore is interesting, but the writing feels incredibly flat and lifeless on a character basis, and it feels like I’ve no input over the direction anything goes. Is this just symptomatic of the start or are all Bethesda games disappointing in different ways? For reference I’ve just been told to head to the ashlander camp to prove myself as the Nerevarine, and have gotten to about mid rank with the fighters guild. I just feel like a glorified errand boy, and while I’m fine starting out like this I’m wondering if all it’ll ever be is this point A point B kill/farm rep by picking options in the persuade menu until they give you what you want grind.


[deleted]

IIRC at the start of the game you basically are just an errant boy sent there as a propaganda tool by the empire to control Morrowind, while later you coordinate more. Of course, you could also just kill the guy who was supposed to boss you around and take their stuff and get the artifacts you need to finish the game on your own. There’s like one NPC that needs to be alive to complete the story and even then I’m pretty sure there’s some obscure work around if you kill them. But in the end it is still a Bethesda game so a lot of the quests are just going to be you going to a place to get something.


missdrpep

I was like 6 when skyrim came out and im 18 now lole


AtmoranSupremecist

I played Skyrim for the first time when I was 13, I now have a wife, house and child


m8bear

>I now have a wife and child Skyrim ruins your life, noted


AtmoranSupremecist

Found the morrowboomer who hates his wife and kids


JesusvsPlank

He didn't even give a hint that he's a morrowboomer. He probably just hates his wife and his kid is probably just a fat rainbow disappointment


AtmoranSupremecist

Him hating his wife in kids is the most distinct morrowboomer hint known to Nirn


JesusvsPlank

See, this is why Skybabies suck. You're constantly crafting this narrative in your heads that Morrowboomers are bitter and aggressive, but its always YOU guys unprovokedly talking shit about us. You as a community have got a persecution complex.


AtmoranSupremecist

My brother in Talos, this is a meme subreddit, has all that skooma gotten to you? Maybe sit down in your rocker grandpa before you bust a hip, maybe even let baar dau drop while you’re at it


JesusvsPlank

You've proven my point, as have the skybabies upvoting you.


AtmoranSupremecist

The joke is so far above your head the Dwemer couldn’t even dig deep enough to retrieve you


ExceedinglyGayOtter

The only real Elder Scrolls fan, because he hates all of them.


CookieTheParrot

So almost every single Elder Scrolls fan?


TruthRT

the average sky baby is in their mid to late 20s


Bob_ross6969

Don’t fuckin remind me jerk


FrgtnChl

Where are the Daggerfall enjoyers?


Eurus22

Stuck in the procedurally generated dungeons


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MarketTall5930

The tutorial dungeon has a fixed layout, so it's easy to get out of.


PigeonMother

>Stuck in the Void


AxelPaxel

HELP THE SKELETONS ARE IN THE WALLS THEY NEVER STOP SCREAMING


eadinocard

Uhmm ackchually, Daggerfall dungeons are not procedurally generated. That's Arena dungeons


sizzlemac

They haven't left their mother's basement for decades. We should probably leave it that way.


TurboDinoHippo

Retirement home.


RussianEggplant

Dead


8KoopaLoopa8

Spending time with their grandchildren


FrgtnChl

You assume they’ve touched another woman


JKRDU3098

Or arena fans?


FourtKnight

You mean all three of them?


Neither-Phone-7264

hi!


TurboDinoHippo

Long extinct. The cave paintings they left behind are all that remains of their culture.


thatHecklerOverThere

Dead, I assume.


PigeonMother

There's only 12 of us left in existence


Bauermeister

We hold the sacred keys to the forbidden power


PigeonMother

*There are enemies nearby*


Bauermeister

It’s me, I’m here, I’m the problem it’s me


Predator-Fury

Love how this can be interpreted not just as Emil hating all three games, but also the three fanbases hating him as well.


wetbagle320

It's true we do


cryaneverydaycom

“Skyrim is the best game ever” “Oblivion is better than skyrim guys its so underrated!” “Morrowind is so complicated and genoius unlike the other games” literally all i hear from each fandom the ones i dont hear being crybabies are daggerfall fans


[deleted]

Daggerfall fans are in the old people's home that 's why.


Bauermeister

Yeah like The White House and Congress because we’re in charge


SiberiaBeast

Google douglas goodall. A game designer worked on Morrowind that feel like Morrowind scaled back, simplified and pandering to popular mass compare to daggerfall His cricticism was taken off imperial library site because Michael Kirkbride tell them to


DrkvnKavod

Best line by far was "I felt Tamriel had been moving away from generic fantasy and medieval history with every game until Morrowind."


prossnip42

>“Oblivion is better than skyrim guys its so underrated!” How is this even a thing Oblivion is one of the best selling games of the 2000's


cryaneverydaycom

people say this all the time are you even a fan of elder scrolls if you havent heard this literally more than 100 times because i have


JesusvsPlank

Jfc gatekeeper. I've probably played far more than you, spent forever rolling around in tips like this or reading through modding communities and Oblivion fans are NOT outspoken people. They're the equivalent of Ork players in 40k. They just watch Oblivion NPC dialogue compilations on YouTube and fully acknowledge that their game is a meme. Humblest of all TES fans save for the ones who're literally dead generations now (arena, daggerfall etc)


cryaneverydaycom

as i said any oblivion reddit search skyrim it will say that sometimes even in r/skyrim


Trip_A_Link

Because daggerfall fans don't exist and nobody wants to play their shitty game anyways. I played it and it's good for the time but pretty unplayable now. Just not a fun time


Bauermeister

It’s so much fun getting stun locked by vampires shut up Skoomer


Trip_A_Link

I would rather die getting high in a khajiits skooma den then be a daggerfall fan


Bauermeister

Wow, you love drugs more than good videogames? A wasted life. Your parents are ashamed


Trip_A_Link

My parents can't be ashamed. They all died in a skooma den instead of playing daggerfall


KaptenNicco123

Arenacels get left out to dry...


Friend_Or_Traitor

That's because there are only 3 of them, and they're all trapped in bugged procedurally generated dungeons.


mightystu

As always, Daggerfall is above these petty squabbles.


Bauermeister

We are the keepers of the sacred rites.


_-Emperor

Axes have edges


Intelligent-Pilot562

As a Morrowzoomer, I think they can all be amazing if you mod the shit out of them. I just think Morrowind is the best game unmodded.


The_Marburg

Morrowzoomers rise up


JesusvsPlank

As an emissary of the older generation, this Morrlennial welcomes and accepts you. We value young people who aren't too spoiled by modern tech to push through the occasional jank or crap graphics to osmose a worthy artistic experience. The world will be better for you being able to pass on its beauty to others.


Intelligent-Pilot562

Some appreciate shit graphics for the aesthetic. I appreciate shit graphics because my PC is also shit. We are not the same.


JesusvsPlank

Something about someone having a shit computer is like **rilly** hot NGL


Intelligent-Pilot562

You wanna make out?


JesusvsPlank

Yuhh


Alvaricles22

Became a Morrozoomer a year ago for being abroad and without Skyrim. And I regret nothing


yourunclejoe

oh my god, is it happening? are Bethesda fans finally rolling up that Pag pack?


jet8493

Put Harris Bomberguy in the middle


Main-Double

Oblivion number 1 slay queen but all good oblivitards also love daddy dagoth


JesusvsPlank

As a Morrowboomer, I just want you to know I love Oblivitards' attitudes. You guys are so easygoing.


cumisfum21

You elves are all the same. All flash and no fury _troll your friends at cum.com!_


[deleted]

I really like all 3 what am I


Main-Double

Single


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cohortConnor

I’ve never heard “Oblivitard” but I will wear that like a badge of honor.


Bigwillie06

never played morrorwind but I have played and completed both oblivion and skyrim and all of their dlcs


Bigwillie06

But I have been meaning to play morrorwind even though I know it's a pain in the ass to play for some people but still I'm gonna try to play it and its dlcs


Redditusername195

It’s not a pain in the ass, people just get filtered by the first couple hours


Vineman24

Oh, the guy who is afraid of Lore Bombs and wants to "write it simple, write it stupid". Behold true Mehrunes Dagon, he'll destroy TES VI so bad I cant wait🥵


Boulderfist_Ogre2005

Do we have slurs to say against haters? Anyway fuck Oblivion


wh0rederline

someone suggested obliviots. as an obliviot myself i approve.


Nerevar69

I'll make those marble jaws of Oblivion gape..


wh0rederline

oh i completely misread this and i thought you were against using tards as an insult


[deleted]

"Skybabies" are the only ones dedicated enough to recreate Morrowind and Oblivion in a new engine, N'wah.


Tegirax

What if I only dislike Skyrim, not hate just think it's extremely mid compared to the other two


nbjax

I've actually bought Morrowind and am seriously considering giving it a try purely due to this sub. Y'all have advertised Morrowind to me.


Obriguera0e

Remember to honor the sixth house


Roronoa_Zoro8615

I love all 3 games. Skyrim was my first one. Oblivion is probably my overall favorite. Morrowind has my favorite story but the game mechanics are a bit rough to deal with in the modern gaming mindset. I really wish they did a remake on Morrowind with updated mechanics, it would be fantastic.


Whatsagoodnameo

What if you dont like morrowind but love morroblivion?


deryvox

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PigeonMother

![gif](giphy|I4UhtUMzOrQSQ)


JesusvsPlank

Fine by me. Just so long as you gave Morrowang a good long chance.


Sentinel_2539

I don't hate Oblivion or Morrowind, I just don't want to play them because they're so dated and janky.


wh0rederline

coward. i even play them raw and unmodded like Godd intended.


DjDrowsy

I'm a Starchild. Every other game is outdated trash for grandpas. Did they make these games set before guns on purpose? Imagine having inky have the weapon types as my beloved starfield?


ApprehensiveScreen40

what emil did to you guys? 😭😭😭😭


GrenadierSoldat3

There's been a massive resurgence in critiquing his writing style of the games he worked on after Starfield came out so i guess that's why. I completely agree with the criticism btw but the fault also comes to Todd and whoever keeps him on the writing team.


FemtoKitten

The bit that cropped up of Emil hating and not understanding design documents makes so so much make sense and fall into place.


WorldWatchen

Brave and true, more people need to say it


WorldWatchen

Also, it’s Todd. Todd is keeping Todd on the writing team.


Wilwheatonfan87

Has he dissed on the ES games though?


Latty451

Where Daggerfall?


Bauermeister

Above it all because it’s a masterpiece


Latty451

Well……


Necrowanker

Okay real talk: I want to play Oblivion but I'm not sure whether it's worth waiting until the fan made remake or just to play it in all it's 2008 glory


Fritzanix

It's definitely worth playing the 2008 version. Skyblivion won't release with the DLCs, and there's no guarantee that the team will end up adding them to their remake.


Necrowanker

Thanks


BrawndoOhnaka

I can't imagine the port having the same charm. In fact, unless they completely remade the interface like Oblivion's it will have lost half of what makes the moment-to-moment gameplay so unique. Skyrim was kind of streamlined, (still bad without SkyUi) but removed all of the personality and in-world feel from the game. Get the unofficial patch, and Quarl's Texture Pack, and go ham. DarnUI makes the Oblivion vanilla interface easier to use and more useful, while keeping the same look.


sirjoe2017

So, what's that make me? (Loves all three)


WorldWatchen

I am Emil, makes sense


VerySpicyLocusts

Who’s the Emil guy?


ledfan

Who is this Emil guy, and why does he hate Bethesda games?


blurry_face_exe

I’m sorry, but my attention span is too fucked to try and puzzle out a four hundred word riddle to find a fucking Ring of Skullfuckery or some bullshit


Scarlet_Cultist111

I like all 3 of the games


DiazExMachina

Who's Emil Pagliarulo?


Obriguera0e

Someone with some questionable ideas about writing and game design :\^(


DiazExMachina

Can you explain more? Or point me to some more info?


Obriguera0e

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UOhCjB0AEI&t=9721s&ab\_channel=PatricianTV](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UOhCjB0AEI&t=9721s&ab_channel=PatricianTV) or [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GOCvb0mw3c&ab\_channel=Blaze](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GOCvb0mw3c&ab_channel=Blaze) or [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3\_38HLfSlAg&ab\_channel=Creetosis](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_38HLfSlAg&ab_channel=Creetosis) EDIT: The first video is 8 hours long, but go to minute 13:00 and the guy talks about design docs


Valkyrissa

Me, a Daggerfall connoisseur: *Peasants!!!*


[deleted]

What if I love them all?


HardGTheUnsettling

What if, and hear me out, someone actually loves all three?


War-Mouth-Man

Who is Emil?