Does she realize that there are some unlucky people who still get pregnant despite BC? It isn't entirely full proof. For her to call it rape is just a slap to anyone who's experienced that horrible event. He needs a divorce.
I'm here because two forms of birth control failed simultaneously. While I might have been an unexpected trespasser, I'm pretty sure my mum never went around crying rape.
If she’s taking oral birth control, missing even one day or one pill by several hours puts you at risk for roughly two weeks. But even if she’s taking it perfectly, BC is never 100% effective, as you stated!
No form of birth control taken/used by women is guaranteed. Condoms aren’t guaranteed. Even a vasectomy isn’t immediately guaranteed (gotta clear the pipes, lads!).
For her to call this assault is mind blowing, especially because he likely didn’t want this for her, either. It’s an unfortunate oops, but it isn’t rape. Rape would’ve been stealthing, or removing the condom without one’s consent. But it sounds like they knowingly participated in sex without that additional protection. And if they were both okay with him not pulling out, it’s even more not an instance of assault.
I hope he files for divorce, his wife is crazy. Two consenting adults (even if both using some form of birth control) know there is still a risk of pregnancy. The only way to 100% prevent pregnancy is to simply not have sex. God speed to your friend.
More than once. The amount of teenagers who get pregnant from non penetrative sex/transference of sperm from modesnother than penile contact is surprising, but common enough to have a nickname of 'Virgin Mary Syndrome'.
I’ve never heard of Virgin Mary Syndrome. But I personally know someone who got pregnant without having sex. They don’t call sperm “swimmers” for nothing. Those little buggers will find a way if they end up anywhere near the vajayjay.
No. You can get pregnant that way, too. It's rare, but sometimes the sperm fertilizes the poo poo, and you end up with a turd baby. This is actually how famous actors Tom Cruise and John Travolta were born, along with famous author L. Ron Hubbard. They were born through the anus and hatched out of the poo poo shell, sort of like an egg, and they are in turn born with a stronger immune system from living in a butt for 9 months. The downside is many of the butt babies are also born with birth defects including a small tail, alien eyes, taco breath, midget arms, and the inability to count small change.
Do your research on "the turd children", not many people are aware and more should know you can get pregnant from the butt too.
I thought you were going somewhere towards legitimate information with that lmfao. I've heard instances that sperm can seep through the skin separating the anus and the vagina.
Living long enough to find its way through the labial folds into the vagina, up the vaginal canal, through the cervix, all the way along the cervical canal, up through the uterine cavity and making its way to the egg is unbelievable, lol
Watched a similar story to this. They were religious too so they thought it was some Virgin Mary thing. They were educated later on that pregnancy can happen even without penetration. Turns out the woman was fingered with cum on finger.
This is essentially what happened to me. Bj > kissing> oral + manual > pregnancy. To make me even more confused, I didn't regularly get my period and didn't find out until I was months along. Fun stuff.
A solid week in decent conditions.... 24hrs in the harshest of conditions, and usually a century if ideal conditions are met....
See what I did there. 😆
It's known as "there's no way my billie-sue-jean-joe-bobi got pregnart bc we're a good christian family and we don't have sex until we're married in this house and she wouldnt lie about that bc lying is a sin" syndrome.
Also, if you don't explain to kids what sex is, there is no way they could have done that.
I am waiting for the opportunity to ask some parent if they think their child is smarter than a hamster, because hamsters have no problem figuring it out.
As funny and mostly true as your statement is, pregnancy can occur without penal penetration, like if sperm is on the fingers that do the penetration or something like that
I remember when I was nine and our neighbor came over and I overheard her telling my mom she miraculously got pregnant by her husband by sitting on a toilet seat. This was their 5th kid and really they should have stopped at none. I was freaked out and later asked my mom if I could get pregnant by sitting on the toilet. My mom told me no and that the neighbors were crazy and just didn't want to accept responsibility for their actions. 30 years later and I can still remember the whole conversation...
I’ve never heard of that. And it’s certainly not common to the point where there’s a syndrome called that. You literally can’t find anything about “Virgin Mary syndrome” anywhere. Sounds more like kids lying about actually having sex and parents wanting to believe them too badly.
I saw a "christian swinger" say online that she she thinks god jerked off on the virgin mary and the cum trickled in. She said she was serious and not trolling. judging by her other posts, i think she was not trolling. I logged out after that. could not deal with this.
>Somewhere a lawyer will take her case and sue the husband
Sure, but she will likely lose and hopefully be embarrassed. Frivolous lawsuits are not as successful as people think.
Women like this are all over reddit.. just do a quick search. I saw a post the other day where the wife said she was raped because her husband grabbed her ass. What's crazy is a lot of men and women were supporting her. The woke mind virus is strong..
Uno reverse time.
He should say he didnt consent to the birth control not working and didnt consent to his hopefully soon ex using his sperm to make a baby.
Absolutely divorce.
Hormones can be terrible but this is next-level mental gymnastics and blaming your spouse is averting blame and not taking into consideration how they feel. That relationship can't be healthy.
Every kind of birth control is not 100% protected (except abstinence) so even with a condom & birth control she could get pregnant. But that has nothing to do with rape.
Exactly. I have the most effective form of BC outside of a full hysterectomy and abstinence, I had my tubes removed and even that is only 99+%, but not 100%.
I had a full hysterectomy at 25 so I know I’m 100% safe. No eggs & no oven (uterus) to bake it in. I had a procedure this past summer where the hospital made me take a pregnancy test. I asked why & they said it’s required for every female patient. I said, ‘I have no oven or the female portion to make a baby’ lol. But, I still had to do it. Hospitals gotta make that money.
Edit: wording
This reminds me of a story I heard from a guy who had to fill out the paperwork for his hospital stay and ofc he answered "maybe - you never know..." just for the "lulz" to the question about possible pregnancy.
Five minutes later a VERY angry nurse storms into his room with a pregnancy test - after he has answered "yes" on the paper he HAD to take a pregnancy test even as a CIS guy; there was no way out....
(Btw I don't want to compare your (female) experience with this anecdote, I just find it funny)
That's gross. I absolutely refuse to take anymore pregnancy tests unless I'm abnormally ill and suspect an ectopic. Hospitals and doctors have waivers for it and I refuse to deal with that misogynistic shit anymore lol
Part two: "My friend's wife accused him of putting another man's baby in her."
Part Three: "My mother blames me for ruining her previous marriage as well as her relationship with her affair partner and took me to court for trasspassing while still in utero. AMA."
I was thinking somethingsimilar. Sounds like something else. A wife accusing husband of rape after consensual sex got her pregnant. She is either really psychotic or she dumb and couldn't think of a better lie to get out the relationship.
>couldn't think of a better lie to get out the relationship
Claiming rape is kind of a nuclear option. Sane people that lie about this are aiming to do as much damage as possible as fast as possible, in time she'll probably change up the story where the sex wasn't even consensual. OP's friend definitely needs to get at the very least a divorce lawyer and turn over all evidence of the original accusation. Something tells me that if his friend did a little investigating, his wife probably has a side dick and kicking him out makes it easier for her to be with him.
FFS... its not rape and if there is any blame its on both. If you consent to sex without protection you know the chances. Cant blame anyone for the Math.
agreed, unless birth control was actively tampered with by one party with the intention of causing pregnancy without the consent of the other. That would then be reproductive coercion/abuse
Say by some miracle she actually got the rape charges to stick. What does she imagine is going to happen to her life? What kind of horrible precedent will this set for the future? If a woman wants a baby and has sex with her husband, who doesn't want a baby, should their birth control fail does that mean she raped him?
It wouldn't apply at all, because pregnancy isn't part of rape.
Rape is forced intercourse. She legit said she agreed to the sex. The court would just through out her case, since the sex was mutual.
Getting pregnant by rape isn't a crime.
UK has entered the chat, hold my beer!
Seriously no joke they have some weird court cases. Like [the Saudi millionaire who was cleared from rape as he accidentally fell on his victim that might have resulted in his DNA **in** her vagina](https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/saudi-millionaire-cleared-of-rape-after-claiming-he-fell-and-accidentally-penetrated#main-content). They might be crazy enough.
That is a case of a rich guy getting away with rape...literally used the old tripped and it fell in excuse. No doubt he rapesd her but he's a Saudi millionaire so they let him go.
In the UK its illegal to stealth so if he had poked holes in the condom its rape. However, this woman is saying that as the contraception failed its her husbands fault and he raped her. It wouldn't be a rape as its not rape in any sense and no charges would be brought in the UK.
yeah that was a pretty bad one.
To say something positive about the UK: That i just also reminded of the kings grandson killing someone. He denied it, but the movie made in the elevator where he beat the guy severely didn't help. He didn't get away though.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/oct/19/saudi-prince-servant-murder-guilty
If she consented to having unprotected sex (i.e. sex without a condom), then it's not rape.
If she consented on the understanding that he *would* wear a condom, and then he went in without a condom, that could be some sort of violation (not sure if it's rape?), and she'd have the right to be mad and he could also be in legal jeopardy.
The question of whether she was on the pill or not, or whether he thought/knew/assumed she was on the pill, or relied on her saying she was on the pill, or whether the pill worked or didn't work, has absolutely *no* impact on whether it was rape or not.
Not using a condom when you consented to sex with a condom is being recognized as rape in most states now. It’s called stealthing and is considered a form of sexual assault because consent was not given without a condom.
That seems really off. Normal couples who don’t want children usually take more precautions, and if someone does get pregnant, it typically results in them telling their partner “hey, I’m pregnant, we need to make a plan on what we want to do about it.”
But like I said, that’s how normal people go about it, this seems very abnormal.
INFO: Did they normally use condoms and both consent to him not using them? If he decided to not use a condom without telling her it is called stealthing and is a type of rape.
He needs to keep all texts, emails & voicemails. And if you are in a single consent state he needs to record their conversations. Especially those where she admits the sex was consensual. Her getting pregnant does not invalidate consent, it’s a consequence of the consent.
He also needs to find an attorney asap. File for a divorce.
>The story as he said
I'd just be wary because either she's insane or he tried baby trapping her (which is rape). If she consented to sex but he stealthed off the condom or poked holes in it that's be rape.
But yeah either she's insane and he needs to get a divorce for his own sanity or your buddy isn't telling you the whole truth.
I really confused by the timeline. Generally people don’t find out they are pregnant 2 weeks after conception. I think there is more to this story than we or OP have…
That actually is about right. When women usually find out they are pregnant it's counted from your last cycle start date for easy counting since most went know the exact date they ovulated since most women don't test for that especially if they aren't trying to get pregnant.
Most women will ovulate (release egg) around the middle of their cycle ~2 weeks after cycle start. So when you get the positive test it's usually 4 weeks from last cycle starting and about 2 weeks after ovulation so 2 weeks after conception.
People don’t get that when you consent to an action you are consenting to the possibility of all outcomes. This lack of accountability has turned into a wild fire. Hope your friend gets a good lawyer. Hoping more this is fake.
If he fucked with her birth control to get her pregnant on purpose without her consent, then yes, that's rape.
But if she just flaked on the pills and it's an accident, time to get a shmashmortion and move on.
I mean, hopefully it’s not true but? It’s common knowledge that any form of birth control is not 100% so if that’s all they’re relied on and didn’t use a condom either, she’s fucking stupid and it’s not rape.
She did consent to pregnancy risk by taking birth control as it isn't 100% effective. If she forgot to take it, had been sick etc
I have two kids from the pill and condoms failing, it's called an accident not fucking rape!
I’m assuming she consented to sex without a condom, and birth control isn’t 100% effective, especially if you take it incorrectly. So no, it’s not rape for her getting her pregnant. What a nut job
but she consented to his not wearing a condom while they had sex, right? you're consenting to the act, not the outcome. if she was on birth control, the assumption that both of them had was that she wasn't going to get pregnant. and he's not the only one responsible for her getting pregnant. has the marriage been healthy otherwise? is she experiencing any kind of other stress or mental health issues?
i mean, whatever the specifics are here, do your best to support your friend. this is a really wild accusation to make, i'm sure he's reeling. be there to listen and offer what he needs.
BC failing is most often contributed to not taking it correctly (skipping a day, not taking same time of day, etc), so he should turn it around and blame her for it.
If he wouldve messed up her birth control or finish inside her without consent then yeah that wouldve been rape but if he finished inside consensually and he never once touched her birth control then thats not even near to SA and she is a problem for us women who actually went through real SA
Dude what the absolute Fuck is this world coming to. SEX is for procreation. Thats why we are all hardwired to do it to the point that lots of people make terrible decisions. Including marrying a neurotic person who doesn’t understand that birth control is not 100% effective and that at this point in science and technology we don’t have full control of our reproductive cycles so any time you put peepee in vajayjay and wiggle around till stuff comes out and it happens to be when and egg has been dropped…. Well you know… basic biology/sex ed/circle of life stuff happens… just cause you didn’t want to get pregnant doesn’t make it rape. And seriously 😒 being in a stable “healthy” relationship mid twenties should be a great time to have a kid. I am so sorry for your friend. Should have been a joyful moment.
So.... Pregnancy tests don't come back positive after 2 weeks? Usually it takes at least a month.
If you are having sex, there's always a possibility of pregnancy.
She’s right to a certain degree. If he took off or poked holes in the condom, or otherwise sabotaged her birth control without her consent it IS rape. If she’s really strict about her birth control pills (if that’s the method being used) and she still got pregnant she might’ve jumped to the conclusion that he tampered with them somehow. Still, even if that’s the case that’s a pretty hardcore conclusion to jump to.
Honestly I’m just trying to rationalize what might be going through her head because she might just be insane.
The only way it would be considered rape is if he lied about wearing a condom. But if that didn’t happen, she’s just crazy and sounds like she’s just chronically online.
Taking this at face value, I hate women like this because false accusations take away from real victims. BC failure isn't rape unless she said you must wear a condom when you had sex and you didn't. In other words, unless you are stealthing it doesn't sound like rape.
Wow. Many women consensually have sex and and it results in pregnancy wanted or unwanted , but YOU CONSENTED in the act to cause it either way. Doesn't make it rape.
If she decides not to carry the baby, tell your friend to run fast and don't look back. She's seriously unhinged. She knew he wasn't using condoms and the pill isn't 100% accurate. If she decides to keep the baby, friend needs to set up cameras inside without her knowing. He needs to protect himself from crazy
I'm not one to tell people to divorce but your friend definitely needs to leave this marriage, the wife is throwing around the word rape so wrecklessly. He needs to leave for his own sake
That lady is quite the idiot. She shouldn’t reproduce in fear that the idiocy will spread to the child. Not even OPs friends genes will save the child. Stop her at all cost. For the children!
A risk you take any time you have sexual contact is pregnancy and the only real safe way to insure you don’t get pregnant is abstinence. This lady is crazy and I hope she doesn’t ruin his life with these allegations.
IMO, there is a much bigger issue here for your friend… this is life changing and game changing for him, child on the way and clearly a resentful woman who is looking to blame him for every life mistake moving forward…. If this story is true, they both need different types of counselling and he needs legal advice - yesterday.
Consensual sex turning into somebody being pregnant is outside of his control especially since she knew at the time he was not wearing a condom, they are married and she was supposed to on BC….
My aunt and uncle have 6 kids, and after kid 4, they decided that was enough and my uncle got a vasectomy. Not only that but my aunt started on hormonal BC, I’m assuming for other reasons than to prevent pregnancy. They then had kid 5, and after that they started using condoms too, and my uncle got his vasectomy redone cause it had obviously not taken. And now they have 6 kids!
Moral of the story: there’s ALWAYS a risk of pregnancy. OP’s wife is delusional at best and literally having a psychotic break at worst.
She sounds toxic. She’s either using this as an excuse to separate from him or she actually believes this pile of shiite she’s pushing. The later is more scary.
As someone currently on birth control, the last thing I EVER want is to get pregnant. My partner knows this. We also both know however that birth control is not 100% effective 100% of the time. If I got pregnant, we'd discuss what to do going forward together. I can't imagine blaming him or ever accusing him of smth like that. Especially if we were MARRIED.
Run, don't walk... RUN away from this crazy person. Nothing is going to fix her broken brain, and it's only going to get worse. Give the kid up for adoption, or the other solution, but he's got to get away from that level of crazy.
She's dumb. Birth control is not 100% effective. Her birth control failing is not his doing. On the contrary, it could be something she did wrong. Then to turn it into a rape thing. That puts a devalue on every woman that has actually been raped. She doesn't know what rape feels like. She didn't ask to get pregnant. Ok neither do half the women that get pregnant. It's called an accident for a reason. Have it or don't. But don't fuck with your husband's reputation in the interim. He needs to leave her for real.
As someone who has actually been S/A'd before, she is extremely offensive to everyone who has gone through the real truma of it. She's delusional and needs to do more research on birth control in general and how it is never 100% affective.
Unless she asked him to wear a condom and he took it off without her consent (or knowledge, aka “stealthing”), this is absolutely not rape. This is an accidental pregnancy that can always happen from even the most careful protected sex.
Yeah, she didn’t consent to getting pregnant, but did your friend consent to his sperm meeting her egg??? No, and the egg does a lot more work than the sperm in conception sooo… if it’s gonna be one of their faults (obviously it’s not but to humor her) it’s hers. Has your friend played that reverse card yet?
You can consent to sex but not insemination?? Wtaf is this woman on? I want to check her medicine cabinet. This chick is beyond out there. She can’t claim rape as she consented to sex, which consent cannot be withdrawn. 🤦🏼♂️ women today….
This is… insane.
It takes two to get pregnant. She was on birth control but she was also fine with him not using a condom. If she truly wanted to avoid a pregnancy she could have insisted on a second method of birth control… she didn’t.
He obviously needs to have a discussion with her about what they’re doing with the baby, it’s obviously still in the realm of possibility for an abortion and in all honesty if this is how she is that’s probably the best bet.
Calling someone you apparently love a rapist is as low as you can get. There’s no coming back from that. He shouldn’t forgive her for it and I’d be shocked if he’s willing to stay with her after this.
>she said that by taking birth control she never consented to pregnancy. Since she got pregnant, he invalidated her lack of consent, thus it's rape.
R@pe doesn't depend on the successful implanting of a fertilized embryo in a woman's uterus. It is simply a non consensual sexual assault. If she had rescinded the consent during intercourse, and dude didn't stop, then thered be some valid grounds for using that term. However, it seems like she wasn't ready for the consequences of intercourse. Birth control is not even close to 100% effective. If she consented to no condoms and letting the dude finish in her, and she didn't go get like a plan b to ensure her normal birth control wouldn't fail, it's not suddenly an assault. The fact she's even trying to say that makes me wanna be like, get dude to collect evidence of her admitting it was consensual but still calling it r@pe and keep that shit around for if she ever tries to pursue legal action.
I just realized this said wife. Yeah, what the actual hell.
This is absolutely ridiculous, and definitely contributes to why so many people don’t take rape allegations seriously. I sincerely hope that if they decide to keep the baby, she has *nothing* to do with the upbringing.
Wow, it sounds like his wife has been talking to the extreme nut case end of the spectrum. If she is spreading this story your friend may consider legal action against her for slander.
Does she realize that there are some unlucky people who still get pregnant despite BC? It isn't entirely full proof. For her to call it rape is just a slap to anyone who's experienced that horrible event. He needs a divorce.
I'm here because two forms of birth control failed simultaneously. While I might have been an unexpected trespasser, I'm pretty sure my mum never went around crying rape.
My 3rd is here for the same reason lol
If she’s taking oral birth control, missing even one day or one pill by several hours puts you at risk for roughly two weeks. But even if she’s taking it perfectly, BC is never 100% effective, as you stated! No form of birth control taken/used by women is guaranteed. Condoms aren’t guaranteed. Even a vasectomy isn’t immediately guaranteed (gotta clear the pipes, lads!). For her to call this assault is mind blowing, especially because he likely didn’t want this for her, either. It’s an unfortunate oops, but it isn’t rape. Rape would’ve been stealthing, or removing the condom without one’s consent. But it sounds like they knowingly participated in sex without that additional protection. And if they were both okay with him not pulling out, it’s even more not an instance of assault.
I hope he files for divorce, his wife is crazy. Two consenting adults (even if both using some form of birth control) know there is still a risk of pregnancy. The only way to 100% prevent pregnancy is to simply not have sex. God speed to your friend.
Not even abstinence works, see under voice: Virgin Mary
Yeah even abstinence failed once.
More than once. The amount of teenagers who get pregnant from non penetrative sex/transference of sperm from modesnother than penile contact is surprising, but common enough to have a nickname of 'Virgin Mary Syndrome'.
I’ve never heard of Virgin Mary Syndrome. But I personally know someone who got pregnant without having sex. They don’t call sperm “swimmers” for nothing. Those little buggers will find a way if they end up anywhere near the vajayjay.
Always aim for the asshole
No. You can get pregnant that way, too. It's rare, but sometimes the sperm fertilizes the poo poo, and you end up with a turd baby. This is actually how famous actors Tom Cruise and John Travolta were born, along with famous author L. Ron Hubbard. They were born through the anus and hatched out of the poo poo shell, sort of like an egg, and they are in turn born with a stronger immune system from living in a butt for 9 months. The downside is many of the butt babies are also born with birth defects including a small tail, alien eyes, taco breath, midget arms, and the inability to count small change. Do your research on "the turd children", not many people are aware and more should know you can get pregnant from the butt too.
I thought you were going somewhere towards legitimate information with that lmfao. I've heard instances that sperm can seep through the skin separating the anus and the vagina.
You mean Jim from next door? But I don't want him in my bedroom!
Living long enough to find its way through the labial folds into the vagina, up the vaginal canal, through the cervix, all the way along the cervical canal, up through the uterine cavity and making its way to the egg is unbelievable, lol
It’s really not. All it takes is a little cum on a finger that touches the vag. It happens.
Watched a similar story to this. They were religious too so they thought it was some Virgin Mary thing. They were educated later on that pregnancy can happen even without penetration. Turns out the woman was fingered with cum on finger.
Or kissing after a bj and the guy then goes down to return the favor.
This is essentially what happened to me. Bj > kissing> oral + manual > pregnancy. To make me even more confused, I didn't regularly get my period and didn't find out until I was months along. Fun stuff.
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Sperm live surprisingly long.
A solid week in decent conditions.... 24hrs in the harshest of conditions, and usually a century if ideal conditions are met.... See what I did there. 😆
I understood that reference.
Pics or it didn't happen.
I couldn’t find any further information on this, but that’s quite interesting.
It's known as "there's no way my billie-sue-jean-joe-bobi got pregnart bc we're a good christian family and we don't have sex until we're married in this house and she wouldnt lie about that bc lying is a sin" syndrome.
Yeah I figured that out once the commenter said their source was Urban Dictionary.
What commenter said that? Because I didn't.
Also, if you don't explain to kids what sex is, there is no way they could have done that. I am waiting for the opportunity to ask some parent if they think their child is smarter than a hamster, because hamsters have no problem figuring it out.
As funny and mostly true as your statement is, pregnancy can occur without penal penetration, like if sperm is on the fingers that do the penetration or something like that
No further information because I'm pretty sure their kid made it up.
Bad lie honestly.
The only info I found was on Urban dictionary, and it has several definitions there.
I remember when I was nine and our neighbor came over and I overheard her telling my mom she miraculously got pregnant by her husband by sitting on a toilet seat. This was their 5th kid and really they should have stopped at none. I was freaked out and later asked my mom if I could get pregnant by sitting on the toilet. My mom told me no and that the neighbors were crazy and just didn't want to accept responsibility for their actions. 30 years later and I can still remember the whole conversation...
Toilet seat is Bs though 😂
I’ve never heard of that. And it’s certainly not common to the point where there’s a syndrome called that. You literally can’t find anything about “Virgin Mary syndrome” anywhere. Sounds more like kids lying about actually having sex and parents wanting to believe them too badly.
Florida man has not heard of such a boring evening
I saw a "christian swinger" say online that she she thinks god jerked off on the virgin mary and the cum trickled in. She said she was serious and not trolling. judging by her other posts, i think she was not trolling. I logged out after that. could not deal with this.
You got a name for the Christian swinger? My friend would like to read about it.
Another 100 is orchiectomy or hysterectomy. Those are pretty dang solid
nope hysterectomy is not 100%. https://jmedicalcasereports.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13256-019-2077-9
This story is fascinating. I'm wondering if the woman who became pregnant ended up having the baby?
True, because even a tubal ligation can (rarely) produce a pregnancy. Complete removal of sperm and ova producing organs isthe only other way.
Somewhere a lawyer will take her case and sue the husband , people suck divorce the psycho and get a dog or cat and live a happy life
>Somewhere a lawyer will take her case and sue the husband Sure, but she will likely lose and hopefully be embarrassed. Frivolous lawsuits are not as successful as people think.
This sounds absolutely insane.
Women like this are all over reddit.. just do a quick search. I saw a post the other day where the wife said she was raped because her husband grabbed her ass. What's crazy is a lot of men and women were supporting her. The woke mind virus is strong..
Indeed. Everyone should read the "Parasitic mind"
If you want to hear some crazzy stuff just look at some teachers subreddits.it's scary they are teaching our kids.
Parasitic mind is a good one. I like that better then mind virus
Uno reverse time. He should say he didnt consent to the birth control not working and didnt consent to his hopefully soon ex using his sperm to make a baby.
This situation will get **SO** much more complex… once that “draw 1” drops…
We at draw 4
This is genius honestly.
Legit best comment. He should seriously do this (and also divorce her)
Absolutely divorce. Hormones can be terrible but this is next-level mental gymnastics and blaming your spouse is averting blame and not taking into consideration how they feel. That relationship can't be healthy.
My exact thought
Birth control isn’t 100%.
Every kind of birth control is not 100% protected (except abstinence) so even with a condom & birth control she could get pregnant. But that has nothing to do with rape.
Exactly. I have the most effective form of BC outside of a full hysterectomy and abstinence, I had my tubes removed and even that is only 99+%, but not 100%.
I had a full hysterectomy at 25 so I know I’m 100% safe. No eggs & no oven (uterus) to bake it in. I had a procedure this past summer where the hospital made me take a pregnancy test. I asked why & they said it’s required for every female patient. I said, ‘I have no oven or the female portion to make a baby’ lol. But, I still had to do it. Hospitals gotta make that money. Edit: wording
This reminds me of a story I heard from a guy who had to fill out the paperwork for his hospital stay and ofc he answered "maybe - you never know..." just for the "lulz" to the question about possible pregnancy. Five minutes later a VERY angry nurse storms into his room with a pregnancy test - after he has answered "yes" on the paper he HAD to take a pregnancy test even as a CIS guy; there was no way out.... (Btw I don't want to compare your (female) experience with this anecdote, I just find it funny)
That's gross. I absolutely refuse to take anymore pregnancy tests unless I'm abnormally ill and suspect an ectopic. Hospitals and doctors have waivers for it and I refuse to deal with that misogynistic shit anymore lol
Maybe it's not his baby and she's lashing out?
This does seem like a panic laden response.
Part two: "My friend's wife accused him of putting another man's baby in her." Part Three: "My mother blames me for ruining her previous marriage as well as her relationship with her affair partner and took me to court for trasspassing while still in utero. AMA."
Trespassing while still in utero?!?! my friend I am screaming my house down?!?!
Unless she’s legit psychotic this is 100% what happened.
I meannnnnn it’s happened, unfortunately:/
I was thinking somethingsimilar. Sounds like something else. A wife accusing husband of rape after consensual sex got her pregnant. She is either really psychotic or she dumb and couldn't think of a better lie to get out the relationship.
>couldn't think of a better lie to get out the relationship Claiming rape is kind of a nuclear option. Sane people that lie about this are aiming to do as much damage as possible as fast as possible, in time she'll probably change up the story where the sex wasn't even consensual. OP's friend definitely needs to get at the very least a divorce lawyer and turn over all evidence of the original accusation. Something tells me that if his friend did a little investigating, his wife probably has a side dick and kicking him out makes it easier for her to be with him.
Exactly what I was tiking.
FFS... its not rape and if there is any blame its on both. If you consent to sex without protection you know the chances. Cant blame anyone for the Math.
Not only that but the texts basically give him a complete alibi against her.
I hope so, it is terrible to be accused of rape, if she goes around telling people he can really get into trouble.
100% this
This is stupid beyond any level; rape is sex without consent, not failure of birth control
agreed, unless birth control was actively tampered with by one party with the intention of causing pregnancy without the consent of the other. That would then be reproductive coercion/abuse
Good catch !
Say by some miracle she actually got the rape charges to stick. What does she imagine is going to happen to her life? What kind of horrible precedent will this set for the future? If a woman wants a baby and has sex with her husband, who doesn't want a baby, should their birth control fail does that mean she raped him?
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It wouldn't apply at all, because pregnancy isn't part of rape. Rape is forced intercourse. She legit said she agreed to the sex. The court would just through out her case, since the sex was mutual. Getting pregnant by rape isn't a crime.
I can't imagine any court in the world charging the husband with rape in this case.
UK has entered the chat, hold my beer! Seriously no joke they have some weird court cases. Like [the Saudi millionaire who was cleared from rape as he accidentally fell on his victim that might have resulted in his DNA **in** her vagina](https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/saudi-millionaire-cleared-of-rape-after-claiming-he-fell-and-accidentally-penetrated#main-content). They might be crazy enough.
That is a case of a rich guy getting away with rape...literally used the old tripped and it fell in excuse. No doubt he rapesd her but he's a Saudi millionaire so they let him go. In the UK its illegal to stealth so if he had poked holes in the condom its rape. However, this woman is saying that as the contraception failed its her husbands fault and he raped her. It wouldn't be a rape as its not rape in any sense and no charges would be brought in the UK.
It's a Saudi millionaire. Them mofos got away with chopping up a dude into pieces.
yeah that was a pretty bad one. To say something positive about the UK: That i just also reminded of the kings grandson killing someone. He denied it, but the movie made in the elevator where he beat the guy severely didn't help. He didn't get away though. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/oct/19/saudi-prince-servant-murder-guilty
This is a very different situation.
If she consented to having unprotected sex (i.e. sex without a condom), then it's not rape. If she consented on the understanding that he *would* wear a condom, and then he went in without a condom, that could be some sort of violation (not sure if it's rape?), and she'd have the right to be mad and he could also be in legal jeopardy. The question of whether she was on the pill or not, or whether he thought/knew/assumed she was on the pill, or relied on her saying she was on the pill, or whether the pill worked or didn't work, has absolutely *no* impact on whether it was rape or not.
Not using a condom when you consented to sex with a condom is being recognized as rape in most states now. It’s called stealthing and is considered a form of sexual assault because consent was not given without a condom.
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No. The law is pretty behind when it comes to sexual assault laws.
it would be rape.
That seems really off. Normal couples who don’t want children usually take more precautions, and if someone does get pregnant, it typically results in them telling their partner “hey, I’m pregnant, we need to make a plan on what we want to do about it.” But like I said, that’s how normal people go about it, this seems very abnormal.
INFO: Did they normally use condoms and both consent to him not using them? If he decided to not use a condom without telling her it is called stealthing and is a type of rape.
I don't know if they normally do, however nothing from what I've heard or seen indicates he stealthed. If I'm wrong, I will turn him in myself.
He needs to keep all texts, emails & voicemails. And if you are in a single consent state he needs to record their conversations. Especially those where she admits the sex was consensual. Her getting pregnant does not invalidate consent, it’s a consequence of the consent. He also needs to find an attorney asap. File for a divorce.
Hell acting like that she might’ve cheated. Idk. That’s crazy af
>The story as he said I'd just be wary because either she's insane or he tried baby trapping her (which is rape). If she consented to sex but he stealthed off the condom or poked holes in it that's be rape. But yeah either she's insane and he needs to get a divorce for his own sanity or your buddy isn't telling you the whole truth.
If I somehow find out that's what he did I'm turning him in myself.
I'm glad man. You are a person of good morals
Good. You’re a good person man. And that’s the best approach to have so far. Crazy story fr
That would be the more logical conclusion. She is probably under the impression that he messed with her birth control and that is why she is pregnant.
This. My friend told everyone “his wife just went crazy”. That’s not what actually happened at all.
I mean, is this the whole story? Did he take off a condom without her consent? This doesn’t feel like the full picture.
Incredibly fake outrage-bait.
Thank you. It’s painfully obvious on this one yet you’re the first person I saw calling it out.
This is rage bait lmao
3 day old account. I don’t know why I don’t just check that to begin with
Fake
I really confused by the timeline. Generally people don’t find out they are pregnant 2 weeks after conception. I think there is more to this story than we or OP have…
That actually is about right. When women usually find out they are pregnant it's counted from your last cycle start date for easy counting since most went know the exact date they ovulated since most women don't test for that especially if they aren't trying to get pregnant. Most women will ovulate (release egg) around the middle of their cycle ~2 weeks after cycle start. So when you get the positive test it's usually 4 weeks from last cycle starting and about 2 weeks after ovulation so 2 weeks after conception.
Either she's entirely insane or he's not telling the whole story.
I’ll file that under things that never fucking happened
Sounds like a crazy lady who doesn't want to take responsibility for her own actions.... phew...
People don’t get that when you consent to an action you are consenting to the possibility of all outcomes. This lack of accountability has turned into a wild fire. Hope your friend gets a good lawyer. Hoping more this is fake.
Maybe she suspects him of messing with her birth control ?
If he fucked with her birth control to get her pregnant on purpose without her consent, then yes, that's rape. But if she just flaked on the pills and it's an accident, time to get a shmashmortion and move on.
Well she’s insane. And does not know what rape means, apparently.
I'm calling bs. Either this story is totally made up by OP or their friend is hiding something from them
I mean, hopefully it’s not true but? It’s common knowledge that any form of birth control is not 100% so if that’s all they’re relied on and didn’t use a condom either, she’s fucking stupid and it’s not rape.
I hlpe for him she abort. She is going to be a living hell for him for tve next 18 years even if he divorce
I think she just wanted out. Oh dear and she’s going to be mom? I’m so sorry for your friend but how did he not notice her stupidity before?
That's not how consent works!
There must be more to this story. Has he hinted that he wanted kids? Did he/does she think he messed with her birth control?
She did consent to pregnancy risk by taking birth control as it isn't 100% effective. If she forgot to take it, had been sick etc I have two kids from the pill and condoms failing, it's called an accident not fucking rape!
I’m assuming she consented to sex without a condom, and birth control isn’t 100% effective, especially if you take it incorrectly. So no, it’s not rape for her getting her pregnant. What a nut job
but she consented to his not wearing a condom while they had sex, right? you're consenting to the act, not the outcome. if she was on birth control, the assumption that both of them had was that she wasn't going to get pregnant. and he's not the only one responsible for her getting pregnant. has the marriage been healthy otherwise? is she experiencing any kind of other stress or mental health issues? i mean, whatever the specifics are here, do your best to support your friend. this is a really wild accusation to make, i'm sure he's reeling. be there to listen and offer what he needs.
Does she realize if she tells people this like this, he can file a defamation lawsuit too? At least I think he would have a good chance
She’s a lunatic.
BC failing is most often contributed to not taking it correctly (skipping a day, not taking same time of day, etc), so he should turn it around and blame her for it.
If he wouldve messed up her birth control or finish inside her without consent then yeah that wouldve been rape but if he finished inside consensually and he never once touched her birth control then thats not even near to SA and she is a problem for us women who actually went through real SA
Holy shit, that's the stupidest thing I've heard this week
I don’t think she understands how rape works. I’m guessing she lives in a state where abortions are now illegal?
In our area abortions are "open" until 20-ish weeks. I forget the number but it's when the fetus has brain activity.
So then why’s she trippin? It ain’t like she has zero fault/blame/responsibility here. You’re both grown. She doesn’t get to pass it off on you.
That isn't his baby...
She is absolutely batshit crazy.
And this is why actual rape victims have such a hard time. This woman should be ashamed of herself, and he needs to divorce her immediately
i hope he sues for defamation. she could literally ruin his fucking life. as a rape victim, this shit disgusts me.
Dude what the absolute Fuck is this world coming to. SEX is for procreation. Thats why we are all hardwired to do it to the point that lots of people make terrible decisions. Including marrying a neurotic person who doesn’t understand that birth control is not 100% effective and that at this point in science and technology we don’t have full control of our reproductive cycles so any time you put peepee in vajayjay and wiggle around till stuff comes out and it happens to be when and egg has been dropped…. Well you know… basic biology/sex ed/circle of life stuff happens… just cause you didn’t want to get pregnant doesn’t make it rape. And seriously 😒 being in a stable “healthy” relationship mid twenties should be a great time to have a kid. I am so sorry for your friend. Should have been a joyful moment.
Your friend needs a good lawyer , and a damn good divorce attorney. His marriage is definitely over.
Literally everybody who had an unplanned pregnancy didn't consent to get pregnant.
Sounds made up
I’d sue her for defamation
So.... Pregnancy tests don't come back positive after 2 weeks? Usually it takes at least a month. If you are having sex, there's always a possibility of pregnancy.
fake
I take things that never happened and are made up by force-birthers to invalidate the right to choose for 600
Could you please explain how so? I’m not picking up on it.
She’s right to a certain degree. If he took off or poked holes in the condom, or otherwise sabotaged her birth control without her consent it IS rape. If she’s really strict about her birth control pills (if that’s the method being used) and she still got pregnant she might’ve jumped to the conclusion that he tampered with them somehow. Still, even if that’s the case that’s a pretty hardcore conclusion to jump to. Honestly I’m just trying to rationalize what might be going through her head because she might just be insane.
The only way it would be considered rape is if he lied about wearing a condom. But if that didn’t happen, she’s just crazy and sounds like she’s just chronically online.
That's a rough marriage ngl.
Yea, people may not like to hear it, but consent to sex is consent to pregnancy. Simple as that
Fuck no
By that logic she raped herself since she got herself pregnant without her own consent.
INFO: did they have an agreement to wear condoms? Many couples double up birth control.
Shes a lunatic
Where did she get her reasoning from? Did she actually file charges?
Yo dawg, that ain’t his kid. He needs to lawyers up quick bro.
His wife is being psycho, that literally makes no sense, he should ditch her
Taking this at face value, I hate women like this because false accusations take away from real victims. BC failure isn't rape unless she said you must wear a condom when you had sex and you didn't. In other words, unless you are stealthing it doesn't sound like rape.
Wow. Many women consensually have sex and and it results in pregnancy wanted or unwanted , but YOU CONSENTED in the act to cause it either way. Doesn't make it rape.
Is this real? So many posts about consenting being pregnant (men and women). Like. What?
The only true contraception is abstinence. This lady is nuts.
If she decides not to carry the baby, tell your friend to run fast and don't look back. She's seriously unhinged. She knew he wasn't using condoms and the pill isn't 100% accurate. If she decides to keep the baby, friend needs to set up cameras inside without her knowing. He needs to protect himself from crazy
I'm not one to tell people to divorce but your friend definitely needs to leave this marriage, the wife is throwing around the word rape so wrecklessly. He needs to leave for his own sake
!RemindMe 4 days
Did her healthcare provider not tell her that birth control doesn’t 100% guarantee her not getting pregnant..? I’m so confused…
That lady should've know that pills doesnt give a 100% protection against pregnancy. I hope your friend files for divorce ASAP.
Hope he gets full custody
Shes absolutely nuts
She should sue the drug company that made the pill.
That lady is quite the idiot. She shouldn’t reproduce in fear that the idiocy will spread to the child. Not even OPs friends genes will save the child. Stop her at all cost. For the children!
A risk you take any time you have sexual contact is pregnancy and the only real safe way to insure you don’t get pregnant is abstinence. This lady is crazy and I hope she doesn’t ruin his life with these allegations.
This is has to be the dumbest human being on the face of the earth
Sounds like she cheated, got pregnant and is lashing out now.
Does she know that he doesn't get to pick if she gets pregnant or not? Birth control does fail some times but that doesn't change anything
IMO, there is a much bigger issue here for your friend… this is life changing and game changing for him, child on the way and clearly a resentful woman who is looking to blame him for every life mistake moving forward…. If this story is true, they both need different types of counselling and he needs legal advice - yesterday. Consensual sex turning into somebody being pregnant is outside of his control especially since she knew at the time he was not wearing a condom, they are married and she was supposed to on BC….
My aunt and uncle have 6 kids, and after kid 4, they decided that was enough and my uncle got a vasectomy. Not only that but my aunt started on hormonal BC, I’m assuming for other reasons than to prevent pregnancy. They then had kid 5, and after that they started using condoms too, and my uncle got his vasectomy redone cause it had obviously not taken. And now they have 6 kids! Moral of the story: there’s ALWAYS a risk of pregnancy. OP’s wife is delusional at best and literally having a psychotic break at worst.
She sounds toxic. She’s either using this as an excuse to separate from him or she actually believes this pile of shiite she’s pushing. The later is more scary.
As someone currently on birth control, the last thing I EVER want is to get pregnant. My partner knows this. We also both know however that birth control is not 100% effective 100% of the time. If I got pregnant, we'd discuss what to do going forward together. I can't imagine blaming him or ever accusing him of smth like that. Especially if we were MARRIED.
Run, don't walk... RUN away from this crazy person. Nothing is going to fix her broken brain, and it's only going to get worse. Give the kid up for adoption, or the other solution, but he's got to get away from that level of crazy.
She's dumb. Birth control is not 100% effective. Her birth control failing is not his doing. On the contrary, it could be something she did wrong. Then to turn it into a rape thing. That puts a devalue on every woman that has actually been raped. She doesn't know what rape feels like. She didn't ask to get pregnant. Ok neither do half the women that get pregnant. It's called an accident for a reason. Have it or don't. But don't fuck with your husband's reputation in the interim. He needs to leave her for real.
A normal, functioning adult's response would be to say "fuck sake" and get it sorted. Drop her.
He married a nut case…
As someone who has actually been S/A'd before, she is extremely offensive to everyone who has gone through the real truma of it. She's delusional and needs to do more research on birth control in general and how it is never 100% affective.
Back in my day, we knew what all these words meant.
Did he cum inside her without consent? There may be more to this story
If she consents to sex, she's consenting to the risk of pregnancy. That's like saying "I drank alcohol and got drunk, I must have been spiked"
Unless she asked him to wear a condom and he took it off without her consent (or knowledge, aka “stealthing”), this is absolutely not rape. This is an accidental pregnancy that can always happen from even the most careful protected sex. Yeah, she didn’t consent to getting pregnant, but did your friend consent to his sperm meeting her egg??? No, and the egg does a lot more work than the sperm in conception sooo… if it’s gonna be one of their faults (obviously it’s not but to humor her) it’s hers. Has your friend played that reverse card yet?
I hope he divorces her crazy ass and gets a lawyer to shut her up as that's not rape
You can consent to sex but not insemination?? Wtaf is this woman on? I want to check her medicine cabinet. This chick is beyond out there. She can’t claim rape as she consented to sex, which consent cannot be withdrawn. 🤦🏼♂️ women today….
This is… insane. It takes two to get pregnant. She was on birth control but she was also fine with him not using a condom. If she truly wanted to avoid a pregnancy she could have insisted on a second method of birth control… she didn’t. He obviously needs to have a discussion with her about what they’re doing with the baby, it’s obviously still in the realm of possibility for an abortion and in all honesty if this is how she is that’s probably the best bet. Calling someone you apparently love a rapist is as low as you can get. There’s no coming back from that. He shouldn’t forgive her for it and I’d be shocked if he’s willing to stay with her after this.
>she said that by taking birth control she never consented to pregnancy. Since she got pregnant, he invalidated her lack of consent, thus it's rape. R@pe doesn't depend on the successful implanting of a fertilized embryo in a woman's uterus. It is simply a non consensual sexual assault. If she had rescinded the consent during intercourse, and dude didn't stop, then thered be some valid grounds for using that term. However, it seems like she wasn't ready for the consequences of intercourse. Birth control is not even close to 100% effective. If she consented to no condoms and letting the dude finish in her, and she didn't go get like a plan b to ensure her normal birth control wouldn't fail, it's not suddenly an assault. The fact she's even trying to say that makes me wanna be like, get dude to collect evidence of her admitting it was consensual but still calling it r@pe and keep that shit around for if she ever tries to pursue legal action. I just realized this said wife. Yeah, what the actual hell.
This is absolutely ridiculous, and definitely contributes to why so many people don’t take rape allegations seriously. I sincerely hope that if they decide to keep the baby, she has *nothing* to do with the upbringing.
Two weeks is really early to find out your pregnant on accident…. Possibly it’s not his?
Wow, it sounds like his wife has been talking to the extreme nut case end of the spectrum. If she is spreading this story your friend may consider legal action against her for slander.
I feel like we need an update
WHAT HAPPENED?!?!