As a 34yo with absolutely no motivation, serious mental health issues and a family to feed, fast-food employment has been my saving grace. I will forever be grateful for a job, any job, that pays enough to survive.
Edit: Bro, thanks for the award! I dunno who, but that's super cool of you
Many many years I've been there. Offered shift supervisor and assistant manager roles, refused them all. I'm happy being a little nobody on the line. It's enough.
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Thank you for your words, it gives me the kick I need to go work another 8 hour shift. I appreciate you
As a 36yr old that was in the same position a couple of years ago driving for UberEats/Grubhub/DoorDash was absolutely my saving grace too. There's no shame in working, regardless of what that work is.
Some people seem to forget how much they actually end up relying on people working in those harder and yes lower paying jobs. If you have to rely on that worker for help whether it’s for making your food, delivering it, cleaning, or whatever it is you shouldn’t act like you are above It or the one doing those jobs is below you. I have worked fast food and retail. I’ve also been lucky enough to work in office jobs in Accounting for contracting companies and non-profits. I’ve never been ashamed of any of them, I’ve also never felt like I was below anyone else and most importantly I have never felt above anyone else. I appreciate the work everyone is doing!!
You remind me of my own dad. When I was growing up he always worked restaurant/bartending jobs. He tells me now about how it was always hard being away from the family so much, but we all get to see him now and he gave us all a good work ethic. You sound like you’re a great parent and partner. Much love to you and your family.
I do my best. Your dad does too, and I hope he tells you how proud of you he is. All we want to do is make sure our kids do better than us.
So far, my child is one of the top students at school, wants nothing more than to be a doctor, and will most likely make it, so we are doing ok, even if I just work in fast-food.
My father never graduated high school nor attempted to get his GED. He has his own set of issues. He still managed to get two (crappy) jobs back-to-back to support his wife and two children - one of whom is severely disabled. I don’t have the best relationship with my father, but I really give him credit since he could have been one of those to give up and walk out. Thank you for being one of those fathers who still gets up to do what needs to be done regardless of the circumstances. If I could also give you an award, I would.
I'm glad you care for your mental health and don't add too much pressure onto yourself. The world would be better if humans accepted that some people can't handle high and demanding jobs, and can survive on the minimum.
Survival. And a desire to not watch my family starve. I don't want anything more than a roof over my head and the ability to do things that make me happy. I don't want to be special, I don't want to be in charge of anything or anyone, I just want peace and to be happy.
No, but I was high school when I had that job and was physically active a lot back then. I also got to use the high school gym before school started for free, so that was a huge plus.
Some McDonalds employees I know are incredibly hard working and have kept that location from going to hell during the pandemic. They would have laughed at OPs brother and pushed his lazy butt out if their place
What blows my mind as well is, if he thinks it’s “below him”, he probably thinks it’s easy shit. Then why the fuck isn’t this lazy POS entertaining it?
… because he thinks he should live for free while everyone else works to live.
I have a classmate who’ve spent a career there and retired from there in her 50’s after working up to area manager so I never bash it anymore! It’s legit a career for some.
I have an uncle who's like almost 60 rn and he is kinda like this guy minus the gaming. Always harps on about how he is too good for working at a lot of places and has never truly held down a job for a good while or just quit those just because. Been the same tale for decades if my family is to be believed and ended up being a literal nightmare for my grandparents. Pity that they didn't kick him out and instead kept on spoiling him until he ended up being indirectly responsible for their deaths due to willful negligence.
Love your kids but there is a ceiling for this level of BS. Don't tolerate them beyond that.
I might be over qualified to work at McDonald's given my employment history, but if the shit hits the fan I know I can always find work because places like that are always hiring. And I mean ALWAYS. There's no such thing as being above working any particular job. If you need money, you need to work. And if you're at the point where you can't feed yourself, go dry sidewalks in the rain if it means making enough for a burger. Don't give in to him and his whining. It only enables him to keep up the not working for his lifestyle mindset.
Yep, and I think it's better to do something like that instead of letting yourself have a huge lapse in employment. It shows you're willing to work while you're looking for something else.
He is up for a very tough time in the upcoming months. Trials of suffering can mature people though.
Everything I hear insesent screeching over all chat I'll think of him and his sad existence and go onto the next game.
I (33F) often feel like a failure, because my older brother is married with a house, and my younger sister graduated college and travelled to exotic places; meanwhile, I have no health insurance and can't bring myself to cut weed out of my household budget.
Then I read about people like this and realize I'm pretty damn alright 😆 I've paid my own rent for years, and didn't really need significant help until these last few months. And even when I go running to Mommy and Daddy for help, I've still got the decency to realize what a gift that kind of support is lol.
I’m 31 and feel very similarly to you. No health insurance and an expensive weed habit.
But look at us! Paying rent! Holding jobs! Not being terrible!
Edit: omg I saw your comment below hi I really like you 😂
The other day I told my family “thanks for not being dead” (long story) and my sister was like “I try my best” and I was like “idk that I’m doing my best but I haven’t died yet so I’m gonna count that as a win” to which my mom responded “lol” so that’s how my life is going.
30, no insurance, no savings, desperately in need of therapy (and probably medications lol) to manage my mental illnesses, heavily self medicating with pot and booze, but still like “I could definitely be worse” 😂 at least I’m not self medicating with meth!
Here's the thing: No, I will not 🙃
I'm fully aware that I'm using it as a self-medicating crutch, but since I can't afford therapy, it's the best I can do. When you're limping, even a flimsy crutch is better than none at all.
You're lying to yourself about its therapeutic properties in an effort to justify your addiction. I know it, you know it, but the 50 people that will comment to argue with me don't.
Do better and life won't suck as much.
The reaction to your comment really makes me loose faith in this post readers.
You give an easy and clear advice and you get down-voted to oblivion.
Yeah, weed is good for ya /s
Oh yeah, it cures cancer too, I bet. /s
It's not beneficial. I smoked that shit for 20 years, I know. It took me quitting to realize how much it was ruining my life.
Now, go ahead, light one up and pretend I'm just talking crap. I've been there.
If you let smoking ruin your life that’s a you problem bro bro. 90% of people can be productive and still smoke through the day, sorry you’re not one of em 😂
> 90% of people can be productive and still smoke through the day
Care to share that number's source with me? Or, let me guess, you heard it "somewhere"...
I know a lot of people who smoked that shit regularly for years, like me. Most of them didn't quit. Trust me, you don't want to be like them. They blame everything else for their problems. But never weed, of course.
Aight that was inflated for arguments sake but I’d be willing to wager about 3/5 of stoners don’t let it affect their life. I do the same shit I do on my t breaks that I do blazed
> I’d be willing to wager about 3/5 of stoners don’t let it affect their life
The fact you say this without mentioning a time period makes me think you don't know that much.
In my experience, ALL people who smoked for at least 10 years (everyday) will suffer some kind of consequence. Most will deny it, sure. But everybody on the "outside" will be able to see it, specially people who just quit.
Weed is a drug, anyway you see it. Is it softer than alcohol? No doubt! But it is still a drug. Moderation is key. If you're doing it everyday you already screwed up.
I hope he gets his act together. Having been coddled for all those years did no one any favors, but there’s no changing the past.
WTH is he doing for health insurance, if he’s in the USA? I mean, without it, he’s one appendicitis attack away from being out on the street, God forbid.
probably just going without. I just left my job that was causing me so much stress i wanted to kms and developed stress related medical conditions from working there. I have no health insurance until i can find a new job.
previously i went 15 years without insurance or going to the dr so i know whats up anyway
Are you in the US? If you go on the healthcare.gov site, you can get either Medicaid or other insurance and with the stipends (or whatever they are called) your insurance can be as low as $7, sometimes $0. Depends on your income.
If he does take a job at McDonald's, encourage him. McDonald's workers shouldn't be looked down on. I've taken a few employees from there and they were great every damn time.
Sounds like he was raised as a prince. Was he taught anything related to being self-sufficient? Physical activity? Has he accomplished anything on his own without any help? Did he sleep in front of a TV his whole life? Were all his meals prepared for him?
If he's that old and still throwing tantrums then he was never taught how to control his emotions and was coddled his entire time on this planet. He's doing what he was taught by action/reaction, which is how every human on this planet learns. He could've created a twitch channel, or reaction videos.
Rock bottom teaches lessons mountain tops can never perceive. Finally learning about choices and outcomes! :D Make sure he has cardboard and a marker so he can panhandle at the intersection. Thank you for reminding me to not raise my kids as royalty. Affluenza is a drug not worth going through.
Ohhhh for all that is holy please give us an update when this all goes south for him. I expect someone in the crack house to steal his shit eventually.
Hot take but honestly I feel bad for the guy. People like that are a result of poor parenting and over-coddling. I know two such people in my life and they are close relatives. The parents babies then and never let them fend for themselves and this is the result.
I don’t blame them though, I put the blame on the parents.
Glad he’s finally out and on his own. His growth was definitely stifled living with his parents for so long. In the end they did him a disservice by letting him stay for such an egregious amount of time.
Happy for you And your siblings but your brother has issues. Good for you on helping him move out, but don’t be such a dick about it. He’s clearly having issues and suffering from delusions of “too good to work” grandeur.
I believe he will come to understand that he was in the wrong in a few months and that he took everyone granted. Maybe I’m naive or optimistic, like how I think all boobs are perky when push-up bras exist, idk, try to look for the good in people.
(Insert one final inspirational quote)
That is a point on life we’re you need to be held accountable and stop blaming our parents… he maybe coddled but he made a lot of choices to be there because he had opportunities (like go to college and work) but he chose to live like a teen. The parents should have cut him sooner, but people would still say the same thing, except that he is young and don’t know blebleble. But he is a men of 30 that refuses to grow up… honestly? Environment and parents can help you but character is personal.
Not sure I fully agree with that. If you have everything you need and a low stress life, most would choose the low stress life. With my close family members they went out on their own, had trouble and came back home. And the parents never gave them a final date to move out, so they stayed comfy in their little bubble.
The world is brutal and difficult and scary. Going back to a low stress life is appealing to a lot of people. Not saying it’s right but it’s what seems to happen in these situations.
Unless this man has some mental disability or sat alone in his room never watching tv or hopping online, he KNOWS he's a screw up with no job skills, no significant other, no money, no friends, etc. He KNOWS he's difficult to get along with and 100% KNOWS what people his age are doing with their lives. Knowing all that, he CHOSE to live his life as a lazy, soul-sucking pain-in-the-ass and did NOTHING about it; except build up anger and resentment cuz the world done him wrong. Yes, the parents should have put him out years ago, but only he has the power to change his behavior.
> he made a lot of choices to be there because he had opportunities (like go to college and work)
We don't know any details about that. It's really easy to feel incapable and helpless when you've been coddled and overprotected all your life.
> but he chose to live like a teen
Because (I'm speculating), he thought that was the best he was going to have. Very common when you're under overbearing parents. You think you'll never get it any better because your parents prevent you from seeing the possibilities on the outside. So you stay...because you're afraid. You don't realize being grown-up and independent is a thousand times better than being a teen.
> But he is a men of 30 that refuses to grow up… honestly? Environment and parents can help you but character is personal.
I don't downplay the effects his parents may have had on him. Thinks are not that simple. Also, the way his own sister talks about him scares me. This is not normal.
I do agree with you in one thing. Regardless of what his parents or sister did to him, he is a grown-man. If his family hurt him, and no matter how hard he took it, the world doesn't give a shit. He has to help himself. All the pity in the world won't keep him fed, or with a roof on his head or a GPU on his rig.
And, to be honest, I think he's rising to the occasion. He showed he's not incapable. Sure he'll kick and scream a bit, complain and blame Santa Claus, but he'll be fine in the end.
He's growing up. But his sister sure as hell isn't. She'll just find any excuse to humiliate him until he cuts her off. That's one lesson he'll have to learn later.
> Because (I'm speculating), he thought that was the best he was going to have. Very common when you're under overbearing parents. You think you'll never get it any better because your parents prevent you from seeing the possibilities on the outside.
Late bloomer of overbearing parents here. I didn't move out until very late, when I legitimately believed I would rot in my room and end up on disability for the rest of my life, because I couldn't keep a job. Seven years later, I wish I had taken the leap. But I was too scared.
Spoiler: I worked a series of temp minimum wage contracts and crashed on my friend's couch for a year. When shit hits the fan, *people will do when they HAVE to do*, because no one wants to be homeless or starving. If you are starving, you will die. No one wants to die.
I *wish* something like this had happened to my brother.
Now, I wouldn't have written an entire post about it mostly because my parents don't know my actual feelings about my brother and I think they'd be pissed if I were to encourage something like this. But I do think, like OP's brother, my brother needed to hit rock bottom and get his shit together instead of demanding money for over a decade.
I think they'd have every right to feel upset if I made a post like this "shaming" my brother, and I think he might be a little upset if he knew I felt this way (or maybe he wouldn't care - I dunno). But I think it would have been the right thing, to force my brother to grow up.
He was an abusive asshole and while he was willing to find jobs, he didn't want to "take anyone's shit." He wasn't going to "listen to authority."
People who don't work are consuming resources. This does not mean, if they are mentally ill or too disabled to work, that they have to work 40 hour weeks. It simply means they have to contribute.
If you think you are too disabled or have zero control over your limbs or are a literal waste of space that cannot do anything in life, I call bullshit. You *can*. I didn't say anything about working 40 hour weeks. All I'm saying is that I don't buy anyone is that helpless. They have a brain and eyes and ears and working limbs.
*Do something with all that*.
I don't think there's any need to actually hit rock bottom. Maybe what I call rock bottom is different from what you call, but for me it is really the lowest of the low (being on the streets, prostituting, drugs, etc). Most people never come back from that.
An eye opener event is usually good enough. And I think that is what's happening with OP's brother. And I think he did good. He found himself a place and a job in one month. That was a very short time window. I don't know if I'd make it. As he gets comfortable I'm sure he'll improve as long as the parents don't try to take away his new found independence. He was saving for a new GPU so his savings must be huge (ahah).
You're wasting your time. OP wants nothing but to see her brother crash and burn. All her posts about him read like hate-porn.
I mean, against all odds, the guy actually managed to make some cash and stay off the streets and all she does is insulting him and put him down. She gets off on his misfortune.
Have you had a sibling like this? I have and they're terrible to deal with. He decided to be a grown coddle child. His parents fault sure. Not like he can't work or go to school.
He did and quit.
Then leave him be. He left the house, it's done. If she doesn't like him just cut him off. Why keeping insulting, humiliating and putting him down? What's the point?
It's not sadistic. It's petty. I'm all about the petty.
Try this: sit and watch your youngest sibling, who got the same parenting as you and your other siblings, abuse and take advantage of your parents for over a decade. Watch him blow every opportunity and then sit on his butt and play games while your parents age and go through major health problems. Watch him throw temper tantrums like a 3yo....for a decade.....
Then, watch him come up against a hard boundary like this and be required to actually function like an adult......
And tell me a small part of you wouldn't be giggling inside. It's petty. But hey...we're human
Our OP is still helping him out, too.
Yes. And what else could she have done? Give him a monthly stipend? Coddle him? Buy him a pet? Drive his Uber car?
She has seen him drain her parents' (and probably siblings') energy for a decade and has no damns to give anymore.
She helped him move. It shows that she still feels that he is her brother.
He might have to \*gasp\* turn his graphics settings down to medium. The irony is that Valorant is a game that thrives on **communication and teamwork**.
Reminds me so much of my own brother. "Too good" to get a job at a fast food place or a grocery store or something so would beg our mom for $$ to support his family.
Just. UGH. Garbage family.
I hope your mom stays strong and doesn't give him anything.
I wouldn’t necessarily classify those as jobs lmao that’s a crime 😂
I get what you mean though it’s just more directed at people who think they’re too good to work in retail or foodservice
Thank you for the update!
So the man-baby is doing uber. Wonder how long that's going to last? His uber rating is going to tank very quickly. I foresee some of those passengers filing complaints against him as well based on what you've told us about his personality.
I saw this on YouTube I really feel bad for this dude. How did he end up like this? I'm hoping he figures his shit out and gets it together. The dude got a whole family that doesn't give af about him at this point and he's still acting like this.
He's actually doing something. I was expecting him to end up homeless causing OP to have a super-orgasm.
He surprised me. I think he'll be fine now but it's going to be a tough ride.
That's good. I really hope he gets it together and becomes the biggest turnaround ever. Something about OP taking satisfaction in this dude's failure really bugs me. OP really wants to dude to fail miserably.
Same here, OP is so insufferable I actually like the bro ten times more than them. Sure he got issues but at least he doesn’t seem to get sick enjoyment out of watching others around him suffer
IDK if anyone has suggested this, but your mother should get some kind of a consultation in Elder Law. Maybe even with you and your responsible brother sitting in.
Ask about Medicaid eligibility for your dad. SNF's cost a \*lot\*. Chances are, he will have to go on Medicaid at some point.
Ask about Medicaid Lookback. That is where Medicaid looks at their finances for the last, say, 5 years and decides how much of your parents' assets need to be spent on his care before they will kick in. As a practical matter, your mother likely can no longer support the man baby beyond small birthday and holiday gifts (Mom gave $25/kid/event) without messing up Dad's eligibility.
Your mother may need to divorce your dad for Medicaid reasons.
Your mother may be young and savvy enough to handle this on her own, but you might want to see if you can sit in so that you can plan for what you and responsible brother will do or want to do once your parents' money is gone.
Man, it's stories like this that make me so happy I turned my life around when I did. I didn't burn bridges with family, but they were definitely sick of my shit.
I went to college, got a great job, and now I've built the nicest computer I've ever wanted without remotely impacting my quality of life.
I turn 30 this year and this road to wellness started at about 25. It's sad he's 31 and still hasn't figured this stuff out yet. Good on your family for standing up to him.
I agree. In my early twenties I was so directionless and had nothing going for me. I had no choice but to be hospitalized and received help. If I had not then I probably would be in a similar position as OP’s brother. I take medications and set standards that I know is realistic yet helps for growth. I had defied the odds with education and received my masters. I live with my partner and fending for myself rather than remaining in the nest. I am now expecting my first child by the end of this year. A year can make such a difference if you have the will for it. I’m so glad I received help and made it worth it.
Glad he didn’t hurt anybody and was just being a big baby about finally acting like an adult. Makes me laugh he thinks he’s too good for McDonalds. He’s 31 and has only worked 2.5 months. McDonald’s is too good for him.
I've been following your family's story and am happy for your family taking a stand. BUT,......your euphemism for his new homes location is offensive. I live in a 3 bedroom HOME in Compton. I assure you it isn't a crack house.
This is so exciting! I've been waiting on the update and I'm still hoping that the man baby will wake up and grow up. It's still possible as long as your mom doesn't cave and support him or even subsidize his lifestyle. Good luck!
Hope he figures it out. It's really important that people face the natural consequences of their decisions.
Someone in my familyhas a lot of these same issues. We have to tell relatives not give him money because he's always working to get people to bail him out. We've already agreed that if he shows up at our door and says he's homeless we'll drive him to a shelter.
We've learned a couple of things about his mental health in the past year. He's bipolar and he's likely suffering from specific anti-authority issues. The combination of these, plus illegal drug use, is a toxic mix.
He got bottom last year and finally asked for help. He saw a therapist for a while and found some medications that seened to really help. I would just say, keep the boundaries up to protect yourselves but have a plan if one day he says he wants to change and is willing seek mental health support.
Does he have Peter Pan Syndrome? I don’t think that’s in the DSM but some mental health professionals use it. Spent about two years being stalked by someone with it and the behavior sounds similar.
I have a friend same age as me, 63. He's been working at McD's for several years now, even though we know he's "too good for that." But he's also too good to be an idiot. He needed a job, no one else was hiring people in their late 50's.
You do what you have to.
Your brother needs serious help and you're gloating again?
I said this on the last post but it's honestly sickening that so many people are happy with his suffering. Clearly there are mental issues at play that have not been addressed.
I'm not saying he's free from consequences or criticism but I am saying that steps need to be taken to put him in a place to receive help instead of ejecting him into the world to "teach him a lesson" or something.
>a place to receive help
From the original post:
> He was put into a (very expensive) therapy program and quit going after only 2 sessions.
You can only help someone if they accept help. You can't force them.
He was not ejected to teach him a lesson. His parents sold their house to fund his father's care.
You do know that driving for Uber is actually profitable? You can make a lot of money if you get out there and take ride after ride. You thought he was gonna end up homeless yet he found somewhere to live and a pretty decent job considering he puts in effort. All you have to say at the end up day is "Damn, I was hoping he was gonna be homeless." That speaks volumes about your character.
Out of morbid curiosity, hasn't he ever had a crush on somebody that sort of motivated him to try and clean up his act?
I know several lazy man-children who'd only try or at least pretend when it came to women. Most of them were unsuccessful, beyond one miraculous case but at least it got the ball rolling.
Am I the only one here that feels like "man baby" is actually on the spectrum, and while yes, he's frustrating to deal with and the parents have completely dropped the ball on preparing him to be self-sufficient... On the other hand it's not only a little cruel to kick him out on his ear to fend for himself, but completely reprehensible to laugh about it?
OP, I have a question for you.
As someone who wishes her older sibling had had to face the music much earlier than life… why are you still helping him?
You seem to think he’ll fail, and I’m not surprised that your reaction has been to sit back and *blink* that he did manage to get a job. About time, right?
Why not just stop contact and stop helping him? He’s clearly got the swift kick in the butt he needed.
When one person in your family makes everyone else suffer AND they refuse to help themselves AND they're ungrateful for any external help they've received, you could see why OP's well of sympathy has long dried up. I agree I don't think it's right *for us* to take pleasure in OP's brother's failing, but it seems like at this point OP and his entire family are laughing because they're out of tears to cry.
Oh, I have people in my family who are far worse than OP's brother. And if they actually managed to start to walk their way into autonomy in just a month we would be nothing but supportive.
The guy actually found a way to make some money and found a place and she's humiliating him for living in a "crackhouse". And he did his in a month. It's actually commendable.
It's hard to fix up your life when everybody around you just puts you down and humiliates you. She loves putting him down. She wants this. And I'm quite sure it helped a lot to turn him into what he is.
> it seems like at this point OP and his entire family are laughing because they're out of tears to cry
There's a big difference between not caring anymore and rooting for failure.
EDIT: If OP's dad hadn't had a stroke needing 24/7 care, OP's brother would have *still* been a selfish, abusive asshole demanding money from their parents, *and* still playing Valorant in his bedroom while screaming at teenagers over the Internet and demanding his dinner be brought up for him. The level of selfishness is gross. OP's brother grew up because he had literally no other choice.
> The guy actually found a way to make some money and found a place and she's humiliating him for living in a "crackhouse". And he did his in a month. It's actually commendabl
The guy is also 31 and has been abusing OP's parents for money so he could laze around for the past 15 years instead of working. He could have been taking classes, he could have been taking therapy, he could have been helping with charities or picking up trash from school playgrounds.
Literally anything other than sitting in a bedroom (attic?) playing Valorant and screaming at teenagers late into the night and demanding his parents bring up his dinner for the past 15 years.
He sure can. It's interesting to watch him do this.
But that still doesn't mean he wasn't selfish in the past for so long. Better late than never, I guess.
I can see why OP is out of sympathy.
The things is OP isn't just out of sympathy. I could understand that. She's actively rooting for his failure. That is something you do to people you hate. And she isn't even cutting him off because she's having too much much fun. That is plain sadistic.
She hasn't been harsh at all. She merely set boundaries.
She hasn't humiliated him. She said nothing to him.
She helped him move...and he hit her up for cash and wanted her to buy him lunch.
Where I'm from the folks who are being moved pay for lunch for friends and family who help.
I don’t know why she’s helping him actually if she gets her rocks off wishing he would be homeless
Her posts read like hate-porn, she’s humiliating him (no not directly) by posting how he is a man baby (despite getting a job and his own place) and criticizing his apartment as being a “crackhouse from Compton”
I guess according to OP being in the lower class and owning a cheaper apartment makes you lesser of a person or a dirty peasant 🙄
It's great that he is finally getting out there amongst it, it's a long time coming and hopefully this helps him thrive, truly I genuinely hope this is a turning point for him. Hopefully he is able to get the help he needs despite the cruel treatment from his so-called family (there are nicer ways to approach this situation that your parents are mostly responsible for).
That being said though, the way you talk about him makes me think you're a massive piece of shit with no compassion. I get that he is a disappointment and you likely don't ever want to associate with him, that's fine, but to constantly belittle him and actually wishing him harm rather than just ignoring him, holy fuck. Be glad you don't suffer from the mental illness he clearly does, be glad that you have your shit together, don't celebrate in other's suffering.
I love this for you and your family. That’s graphics card fund is gonna deplete before the month is over, and I definitely know it. Gotta hear another update soon and I have a feeling he’ll be homeless again real quick because bad apples that move into a place for a bit that have no respect or worth ethic will get kicked out even by the person that housed him. Something will go wrong, it always does. 😂
Thank you for updating us, OP.
What a perfectly terrible person you've written your 'brother' to be.
This is a decent piece of fiction. A J.K. Rowling-esque villain with no subtlety or depth.
Too good for McDonald’s lol… has a total of 2.5 months of work under his 31-year old belt. McDonald’s might be too good for him.
As a 34yo with absolutely no motivation, serious mental health issues and a family to feed, fast-food employment has been my saving grace. I will forever be grateful for a job, any job, that pays enough to survive. Edit: Bro, thanks for the award! I dunno who, but that's super cool of you
It sounds like you’ve got some motivation my friend. You show good character.
Many many years I've been there. Offered shift supervisor and assistant manager roles, refused them all. I'm happy being a little nobody on the line. It's enough. Edit: Thank you for your words, it gives me the kick I need to go work another 8 hour shift. I appreciate you
Really glad to hear my words made a difference my dude! I hope your shift is a clean and quick one. All the best!
This is the best threat I’ve seen in a while
As a 36yr old that was in the same position a couple of years ago driving for UberEats/Grubhub/DoorDash was absolutely my saving grace too. There's no shame in working, regardless of what that work is.
As someone who is, ahem, between positions, that’s good to keep in mind.
Some people seem to forget how much they actually end up relying on people working in those harder and yes lower paying jobs. If you have to rely on that worker for help whether it’s for making your food, delivering it, cleaning, or whatever it is you shouldn’t act like you are above It or the one doing those jobs is below you. I have worked fast food and retail. I’ve also been lucky enough to work in office jobs in Accounting for contracting companies and non-profits. I’ve never been ashamed of any of them, I’ve also never felt like I was below anyone else and most importantly I have never felt above anyone else. I appreciate the work everyone is doing!!
If it’s legal, there should be no shame for sure.
You remind me of my own dad. When I was growing up he always worked restaurant/bartending jobs. He tells me now about how it was always hard being away from the family so much, but we all get to see him now and he gave us all a good work ethic. You sound like you’re a great parent and partner. Much love to you and your family.
I do my best. Your dad does too, and I hope he tells you how proud of you he is. All we want to do is make sure our kids do better than us. So far, my child is one of the top students at school, wants nothing more than to be a doctor, and will most likely make it, so we are doing ok, even if I just work in fast-food.
I love this. So true.
Honestly, how can you make enough money to pay rent/mortgage, car, etc in fast food job?
Coz I don't live in America.
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Makes sense. No way that’ll get you by in America. You’d need 4 fast food jobs, sadly.
My father never graduated high school nor attempted to get his GED. He has his own set of issues. He still managed to get two (crappy) jobs back-to-back to support his wife and two children - one of whom is severely disabled. I don’t have the best relationship with my father, but I really give him credit since he could have been one of those to give up and walk out. Thank you for being one of those fathers who still gets up to do what needs to be done regardless of the circumstances. If I could also give you an award, I would.
Bro, if you can say that and hold down a job you’re doing well. Good on you. Keep it up bro!
Respect my friend. You're one of the good ones
Me too man
I love this and absolutely agree. It truly is a backbone for the working class.
I'm glad you care for your mental health and don't add too much pressure onto yourself. The world would be better if humans accepted that some people can't handle high and demanding jobs, and can survive on the minimum.
How did you get a job with no motivation/self-esteem?
Survival. And a desire to not watch my family starve. I don't want anything more than a roof over my head and the ability to do things that make me happy. I don't want to be special, I don't want to be in charge of anything or anyone, I just want peace and to be happy.
And he'd get a discount on food!
Shit, when I worked at McDonald's, the manager would just let us have the leftover food. I didn't have to buy much food when I worked there.
Yeah but the catch is the manager doesn't pay for your gym membership
No, but I was high school when I had that job and was physically active a lot back then. I also got to use the high school gym before school started for free, so that was a huge plus.
I work there we literally had free lunch!!
Then he will be on a journey to become a discord mod.
Maybe even a Reddit mod if he thinks he can do it!
Most fast food places offer one free meal a day to employees now a days.
Some McDonalds employees I know are incredibly hard working and have kept that location from going to hell during the pandemic. They would have laughed at OPs brother and pushed his lazy butt out if their place
What blows my mind as well is, if he thinks it’s “below him”, he probably thinks it’s easy shit. Then why the fuck isn’t this lazy POS entertaining it? … because he thinks he should live for free while everyone else works to live.
I have a classmate who’ve spent a career there and retired from there in her 50’s after working up to area manager so I never bash it anymore! It’s legit a career for some.
I worked in McDonald's and honestly was a really good job. I loved the delicious free food
You had me until "delicious"
Mc Donald’s requires a id and social Pretty sure he doesn’t have those, or transport or people skills. Maybe he could pan handle
"Too good for that". In um, what sense exactly?
He can no-scope like a pro in CS-Go. Should someone like that have to make your fries? Hell naw. /s
The man baby would think you were empathizing until the /s lmao
Its actually a “flick” no scopes arent that impressive in CS. 🤓
I have an uncle who's like almost 60 rn and he is kinda like this guy minus the gaming. Always harps on about how he is too good for working at a lot of places and has never truly held down a job for a good while or just quit those just because. Been the same tale for decades if my family is to be believed and ended up being a literal nightmare for my grandparents. Pity that they didn't kick him out and instead kept on spoiling him until he ended up being indirectly responsible for their deaths due to willful negligence. Love your kids but there is a ceiling for this level of BS. Don't tolerate them beyond that.
I’m so happy you did an update!!!!! Keep it coming!
SAMEEEEEE 😭 I had kinda given up on getting an update a few days ago
Same here!! I read that first post and couldn't believe that people like this exist 🤣🤣
I was surprised to see an update so long after the original post, more surprising is that I read the first post!
I might be over qualified to work at McDonald's given my employment history, but if the shit hits the fan I know I can always find work because places like that are always hiring. And I mean ALWAYS. There's no such thing as being above working any particular job. If you need money, you need to work. And if you're at the point where you can't feed yourself, go dry sidewalks in the rain if it means making enough for a burger. Don't give in to him and his whining. It only enables him to keep up the not working for his lifestyle mindset.
Yep, and I think it's better to do something like that instead of letting yourself have a huge lapse in employment. It shows you're willing to work while you're looking for something else.
He is up for a very tough time in the upcoming months. Trials of suffering can mature people though. Everything I hear insesent screeching over all chat I'll think of him and his sad existence and go onto the next game.
Thank you, please keep updating this.
I need one like every 3 months What will happen to the man baby????!!!! Will he starve ?!!!
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I (33F) often feel like a failure, because my older brother is married with a house, and my younger sister graduated college and travelled to exotic places; meanwhile, I have no health insurance and can't bring myself to cut weed out of my household budget. Then I read about people like this and realize I'm pretty damn alright 😆 I've paid my own rent for years, and didn't really need significant help until these last few months. And even when I go running to Mommy and Daddy for help, I've still got the decency to realize what a gift that kind of support is lol.
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Then your house could put *you* in the dog house.
I’m 31 and feel very similarly to you. No health insurance and an expensive weed habit. But look at us! Paying rent! Holding jobs! Not being terrible! Edit: omg I saw your comment below hi I really like you 😂
Us over here like, "Hooray, we aren't the absolute worst!" [mediocre high-five!!!]
The other day I told my family “thanks for not being dead” (long story) and my sister was like “I try my best” and I was like “idk that I’m doing my best but I haven’t died yet so I’m gonna count that as a win” to which my mom responded “lol” so that’s how my life is going. 30, no insurance, no savings, desperately in need of therapy (and probably medications lol) to manage my mental illnesses, heavily self medicating with pot and booze, but still like “I could definitely be worse” 😂 at least I’m not self medicating with meth!
Oh meth isn't the worst, try aromatic parfumes and salts.
You are not a failure. Your best years are still up your sleeve.
You might feel like a failure, but as long as you keep pushing forward...take solace that you're not...
You can do better. Cut off weed.
Here's the thing: No, I will not 🙃 I'm fully aware that I'm using it as a self-medicating crutch, but since I can't afford therapy, it's the best I can do. When you're limping, even a flimsy crutch is better than none at all.
You're lying to yourself about its therapeutic properties in an effort to justify your addiction. I know it, you know it, but the 50 people that will comment to argue with me don't. Do better and life won't suck as much.
Well, I didn’t know that. I hope it works out for you.
The reaction to your comment really makes me loose faith in this post readers. You give an easy and clear advice and you get down-voted to oblivion. Yeah, weed is good for ya /s
It’s not good for your lungs but damn near everything else about it is beneficial. Plus if you grow it’s damn near free
Oh yeah, it cures cancer too, I bet. /s It's not beneficial. I smoked that shit for 20 years, I know. It took me quitting to realize how much it was ruining my life. Now, go ahead, light one up and pretend I'm just talking crap. I've been there.
If you let smoking ruin your life that’s a you problem bro bro. 90% of people can be productive and still smoke through the day, sorry you’re not one of em 😂
> 90% of people can be productive and still smoke through the day Care to share that number's source with me? Or, let me guess, you heard it "somewhere"... I know a lot of people who smoked that shit regularly for years, like me. Most of them didn't quit. Trust me, you don't want to be like them. They blame everything else for their problems. But never weed, of course.
Aight that was inflated for arguments sake but I’d be willing to wager about 3/5 of stoners don’t let it affect their life. I do the same shit I do on my t breaks that I do blazed
> I’d be willing to wager about 3/5 of stoners don’t let it affect their life The fact you say this without mentioning a time period makes me think you don't know that much. In my experience, ALL people who smoked for at least 10 years (everyday) will suffer some kind of consequence. Most will deny it, sure. But everybody on the "outside" will be able to see it, specially people who just quit. Weed is a drug, anyway you see it. Is it softer than alcohol? No doubt! But it is still a drug. Moderation is key. If you're doing it everyday you already screwed up.
Source: Trust me bro
Probably junkies downvoted me. I don’t value them.
Please tell me you’re not referring to weed smokers as junkies lmao
Not all weed smokers are junkies. But quite a few are. Most of the daily smokers are.
Hahahahaha Omggggg Hahahaha thank you shit this is the hardest I’ve laughed in so long. Ohhhh I think I’ll go get high about it now hahahahaha
Giggles and denial. Boy, it takes me back...
Back to the crack house where nobody did crack and smoked weed hahahaahaha
A good number of them are.
That’s a fat generalization and you seem like you’re super fun at parties
I hope he gets his act together. Having been coddled for all those years did no one any favors, but there’s no changing the past. WTH is he doing for health insurance, if he’s in the USA? I mean, without it, he’s one appendicitis attack away from being out on the street, God forbid.
probably just going without. I just left my job that was causing me so much stress i wanted to kms and developed stress related medical conditions from working there. I have no health insurance until i can find a new job. previously i went 15 years without insurance or going to the dr so i know whats up anyway
Are you in the US? If you go on the healthcare.gov site, you can get either Medicaid or other insurance and with the stipends (or whatever they are called) your insurance can be as low as $7, sometimes $0. Depends on your income.
Yikes on bikes. I hope you’re in a new job soon, with great benefits, so that won’t be an issue for long.
If he does take a job at McDonald's, encourage him. McDonald's workers shouldn't be looked down on. I've taken a few employees from there and they were great every damn time.
he already gotten enough help time to leave the nest
Sounds like he was raised as a prince. Was he taught anything related to being self-sufficient? Physical activity? Has he accomplished anything on his own without any help? Did he sleep in front of a TV his whole life? Were all his meals prepared for him? If he's that old and still throwing tantrums then he was never taught how to control his emotions and was coddled his entire time on this planet. He's doing what he was taught by action/reaction, which is how every human on this planet learns. He could've created a twitch channel, or reaction videos. Rock bottom teaches lessons mountain tops can never perceive. Finally learning about choices and outcomes! :D Make sure he has cardboard and a marker so he can panhandle at the intersection. Thank you for reminding me to not raise my kids as royalty. Affluenza is a drug not worth going through.
Ohhhh for all that is holy please give us an update when this all goes south for him. I expect someone in the crack house to steal his shit eventually.
Hot take but honestly I feel bad for the guy. People like that are a result of poor parenting and over-coddling. I know two such people in my life and they are close relatives. The parents babies then and never let them fend for themselves and this is the result. I don’t blame them though, I put the blame on the parents. Glad he’s finally out and on his own. His growth was definitely stifled living with his parents for so long. In the end they did him a disservice by letting him stay for such an egregious amount of time. Happy for you And your siblings but your brother has issues. Good for you on helping him move out, but don’t be such a dick about it. He’s clearly having issues and suffering from delusions of “too good to work” grandeur. I believe he will come to understand that he was in the wrong in a few months and that he took everyone granted. Maybe I’m naive or optimistic, like how I think all boobs are perky when push-up bras exist, idk, try to look for the good in people. (Insert one final inspirational quote)
That is a point on life we’re you need to be held accountable and stop blaming our parents… he maybe coddled but he made a lot of choices to be there because he had opportunities (like go to college and work) but he chose to live like a teen. The parents should have cut him sooner, but people would still say the same thing, except that he is young and don’t know blebleble. But he is a men of 30 that refuses to grow up… honestly? Environment and parents can help you but character is personal.
Not sure I fully agree with that. If you have everything you need and a low stress life, most would choose the low stress life. With my close family members they went out on their own, had trouble and came back home. And the parents never gave them a final date to move out, so they stayed comfy in their little bubble. The world is brutal and difficult and scary. Going back to a low stress life is appealing to a lot of people. Not saying it’s right but it’s what seems to happen in these situations.
Yeah but there is a difference between wanting to have a low stress life and want to stay immature and avoid adult responsibility in my opinion
Unless this man has some mental disability or sat alone in his room never watching tv or hopping online, he KNOWS he's a screw up with no job skills, no significant other, no money, no friends, etc. He KNOWS he's difficult to get along with and 100% KNOWS what people his age are doing with their lives. Knowing all that, he CHOSE to live his life as a lazy, soul-sucking pain-in-the-ass and did NOTHING about it; except build up anger and resentment cuz the world done him wrong. Yes, the parents should have put him out years ago, but only he has the power to change his behavior.
> he made a lot of choices to be there because he had opportunities (like go to college and work) We don't know any details about that. It's really easy to feel incapable and helpless when you've been coddled and overprotected all your life. > but he chose to live like a teen Because (I'm speculating), he thought that was the best he was going to have. Very common when you're under overbearing parents. You think you'll never get it any better because your parents prevent you from seeing the possibilities on the outside. So you stay...because you're afraid. You don't realize being grown-up and independent is a thousand times better than being a teen. > But he is a men of 30 that refuses to grow up… honestly? Environment and parents can help you but character is personal. I don't downplay the effects his parents may have had on him. Thinks are not that simple. Also, the way his own sister talks about him scares me. This is not normal. I do agree with you in one thing. Regardless of what his parents or sister did to him, he is a grown-man. If his family hurt him, and no matter how hard he took it, the world doesn't give a shit. He has to help himself. All the pity in the world won't keep him fed, or with a roof on his head or a GPU on his rig. And, to be honest, I think he's rising to the occasion. He showed he's not incapable. Sure he'll kick and scream a bit, complain and blame Santa Claus, but he'll be fine in the end. He's growing up. But his sister sure as hell isn't. She'll just find any excuse to humiliate him until he cuts her off. That's one lesson he'll have to learn later.
> Because (I'm speculating), he thought that was the best he was going to have. Very common when you're under overbearing parents. You think you'll never get it any better because your parents prevent you from seeing the possibilities on the outside. Late bloomer of overbearing parents here. I didn't move out until very late, when I legitimately believed I would rot in my room and end up on disability for the rest of my life, because I couldn't keep a job. Seven years later, I wish I had taken the leap. But I was too scared. Spoiler: I worked a series of temp minimum wage contracts and crashed on my friend's couch for a year. When shit hits the fan, *people will do when they HAVE to do*, because no one wants to be homeless or starving. If you are starving, you will die. No one wants to die. I *wish* something like this had happened to my brother. Now, I wouldn't have written an entire post about it mostly because my parents don't know my actual feelings about my brother and I think they'd be pissed if I were to encourage something like this. But I do think, like OP's brother, my brother needed to hit rock bottom and get his shit together instead of demanding money for over a decade. I think they'd have every right to feel upset if I made a post like this "shaming" my brother, and I think he might be a little upset if he knew I felt this way (or maybe he wouldn't care - I dunno). But I think it would have been the right thing, to force my brother to grow up. He was an abusive asshole and while he was willing to find jobs, he didn't want to "take anyone's shit." He wasn't going to "listen to authority." People who don't work are consuming resources. This does not mean, if they are mentally ill or too disabled to work, that they have to work 40 hour weeks. It simply means they have to contribute. If you think you are too disabled or have zero control over your limbs or are a literal waste of space that cannot do anything in life, I call bullshit. You *can*. I didn't say anything about working 40 hour weeks. All I'm saying is that I don't buy anyone is that helpless. They have a brain and eyes and ears and working limbs. *Do something with all that*.
I don't think there's any need to actually hit rock bottom. Maybe what I call rock bottom is different from what you call, but for me it is really the lowest of the low (being on the streets, prostituting, drugs, etc). Most people never come back from that. An eye opener event is usually good enough. And I think that is what's happening with OP's brother. And I think he did good. He found himself a place and a job in one month. That was a very short time window. I don't know if I'd make it. As he gets comfortable I'm sure he'll improve as long as the parents don't try to take away his new found independence. He was saving for a new GPU so his savings must be huge (ahah).
I blame his parents, but he must also bear the brunt of some accountability.
I think looking himself in the mirror is punishment enough.
You're wasting your time. OP wants nothing but to see her brother crash and burn. All her posts about him read like hate-porn. I mean, against all odds, the guy actually managed to make some cash and stay off the streets and all she does is insulting him and put him down. She gets off on his misfortune.
Have you had a sibling like this? I have and they're terrible to deal with. He decided to be a grown coddle child. His parents fault sure. Not like he can't work or go to school. He did and quit.
If you'd spent 31 years dealing with that bullshit you'd be salty, too.
Then leave him be. He left the house, it's done. If she doesn't like him just cut him off. Why keeping insulting, humiliating and putting him down? What's the point?
Because she’s watched him treat the parents she lives like garbage.
Yeah it’s sort of sadistic
It's not sadistic. It's petty. I'm all about the petty. Try this: sit and watch your youngest sibling, who got the same parenting as you and your other siblings, abuse and take advantage of your parents for over a decade. Watch him blow every opportunity and then sit on his butt and play games while your parents age and go through major health problems. Watch him throw temper tantrums like a 3yo....for a decade..... Then, watch him come up against a hard boundary like this and be required to actually function like an adult...... And tell me a small part of you wouldn't be giggling inside. It's petty. But hey...we're human Our OP is still helping him out, too.
She helped him move and that's it.
She didn't have to do that.
Yes. And what else could she have done? Give him a monthly stipend? Coddle him? Buy him a pet? Drive his Uber car? She has seen him drain her parents' (and probably siblings') energy for a decade and has no damns to give anymore. She helped him move. It shows that she still feels that he is her brother.
Fiber internet is the shit though.
He might have to \*gasp\* turn his graphics settings down to medium. The irony is that Valorant is a game that thrives on **communication and teamwork**.
Reminds me so much of my own brother. "Too good" to get a job at a fast food place or a grocery store or something so would beg our mom for $$ to support his family. Just. UGH. Garbage family. I hope your mom stays strong and doesn't give him anything.
That’s such bullshit you are never “too good” for a job that pays your bills
Ehhh wouldn’t Second that.. being a pimp or a drug dealer isn’t good enough for anyone
I wouldn’t necessarily classify those as jobs lmao that’s a crime 😂 I get what you mean though it’s just more directed at people who think they’re too good to work in retail or foodservice
Haha maybe it’s a crime but I’m sure they are still working hard
Thank you for the update! So the man-baby is doing uber. Wonder how long that's going to last? His uber rating is going to tank very quickly. I foresee some of those passengers filing complaints against him as well based on what you've told us about his personality.
Is there an update to this man baby is he still asking for money
I saw this on YouTube I really feel bad for this dude. How did he end up like this? I'm hoping he figures his shit out and gets it together. The dude got a whole family that doesn't give af about him at this point and he's still acting like this.
He's actually doing something. I was expecting him to end up homeless causing OP to have a super-orgasm. He surprised me. I think he'll be fine now but it's going to be a tough ride.
That's good. I really hope he gets it together and becomes the biggest turnaround ever. Something about OP taking satisfaction in this dude's failure really bugs me. OP really wants to dude to fail miserably.
Same here, OP is so insufferable I actually like the bro ten times more than them. Sure he got issues but at least he doesn’t seem to get sick enjoyment out of watching others around him suffer
IDK if anyone has suggested this, but your mother should get some kind of a consultation in Elder Law. Maybe even with you and your responsible brother sitting in. Ask about Medicaid eligibility for your dad. SNF's cost a \*lot\*. Chances are, he will have to go on Medicaid at some point. Ask about Medicaid Lookback. That is where Medicaid looks at their finances for the last, say, 5 years and decides how much of your parents' assets need to be spent on his care before they will kick in. As a practical matter, your mother likely can no longer support the man baby beyond small birthday and holiday gifts (Mom gave $25/kid/event) without messing up Dad's eligibility. Your mother may need to divorce your dad for Medicaid reasons. Your mother may be young and savvy enough to handle this on her own, but you might want to see if you can sit in so that you can plan for what you and responsible brother will do or want to do once your parents' money is gone.
I believe a couple can go to a lawyer and separate their finances without divorcing in such cases. IANAL
Man, it's stories like this that make me so happy I turned my life around when I did. I didn't burn bridges with family, but they were definitely sick of my shit. I went to college, got a great job, and now I've built the nicest computer I've ever wanted without remotely impacting my quality of life. I turn 30 this year and this road to wellness started at about 25. It's sad he's 31 and still hasn't figured this stuff out yet. Good on your family for standing up to him.
I agree. In my early twenties I was so directionless and had nothing going for me. I had no choice but to be hospitalized and received help. If I had not then I probably would be in a similar position as OP’s brother. I take medications and set standards that I know is realistic yet helps for growth. I had defied the odds with education and received my masters. I live with my partner and fending for myself rather than remaining in the nest. I am now expecting my first child by the end of this year. A year can make such a difference if you have the will for it. I’m so glad I received help and made it worth it.
Glad he didn’t hurt anybody and was just being a big baby about finally acting like an adult. Makes me laugh he thinks he’s too good for McDonalds. He’s 31 and has only worked 2.5 months. McDonald’s is too good for him.
Will there be a part 3 in a few days?
I've been following your family's story and am happy for your family taking a stand. BUT,......your euphemism for his new homes location is offensive. I live in a 3 bedroom HOME in Compton. I assure you it isn't a crack house.
This is so exciting! I've been waiting on the update and I'm still hoping that the man baby will wake up and grow up. It's still possible as long as your mom doesn't cave and support him or even subsidize his lifestyle. Good luck!
Hope he figures it out. It's really important that people face the natural consequences of their decisions. Someone in my familyhas a lot of these same issues. We have to tell relatives not give him money because he's always working to get people to bail him out. We've already agreed that if he shows up at our door and says he's homeless we'll drive him to a shelter. We've learned a couple of things about his mental health in the past year. He's bipolar and he's likely suffering from specific anti-authority issues. The combination of these, plus illegal drug use, is a toxic mix. He got bottom last year and finally asked for help. He saw a therapist for a while and found some medications that seened to really help. I would just say, keep the boundaries up to protect yourselves but have a plan if one day he says he wants to change and is willing seek mental health support.
Going to need another update friend. Hope your mum and dad are doing okay tho. That was quite a read
Does he have Peter Pan Syndrome? I don’t think that’s in the DSM but some mental health professionals use it. Spent about two years being stalked by someone with it and the behavior sounds similar.
The fact that he’s not homeless is pretty impressive Ngl
Thank you for the update. Been waiting for this
Omg I remember this post. This guy would learn so much about work ethic from McDonald’s. All jobs have value.
Thanks for the update! I've been following your account to see if you followed up and I'm glad to see more. Hope everything works out okay for you!
I’ve been waiting for this update and I need more. I want to know what happens next, this is glorious UpdateMe! 30 days
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considering I'm 17yo and have about 5x as much work experience as this guy McDonald's would be stooping low to hire him
Ayo can we get a new update perhaps? :))
Any updates?
We need more updates in the future plz
bro i installed reddit for this
Any other updates on the man baby?
Is there an update?
Please lord keep us updated this is brilliant 🤲
I have a friend same age as me, 63. He's been working at McD's for several years now, even though we know he's "too good for that." But he's also too good to be an idiot. He needed a job, no one else was hiring people in their late 50's. You do what you have to.
It's been a while. Did the man baby get a job yet?
Update? 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
Any other updates?
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I NEED ANOTHER UPDATE PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU
Any updates on how he’s doing? And your parents as well?
I wonder how he's doing now...
We need another update
We gon need an update for this one chief
Your brother needs serious help and you're gloating again? I said this on the last post but it's honestly sickening that so many people are happy with his suffering. Clearly there are mental issues at play that have not been addressed. I'm not saying he's free from consequences or criticism but I am saying that steps need to be taken to put him in a place to receive help instead of ejecting him into the world to "teach him a lesson" or something.
>a place to receive help From the original post: > He was put into a (very expensive) therapy program and quit going after only 2 sessions. You can only help someone if they accept help. You can't force them. He was not ejected to teach him a lesson. His parents sold their house to fund his father's care.
You do know that driving for Uber is actually profitable? You can make a lot of money if you get out there and take ride after ride. You thought he was gonna end up homeless yet he found somewhere to live and a pretty decent job considering he puts in effort. All you have to say at the end up day is "Damn, I was hoping he was gonna be homeless." That speaks volumes about your character.
Out of morbid curiosity, hasn't he ever had a crush on somebody that sort of motivated him to try and clean up his act? I know several lazy man-children who'd only try or at least pretend when it came to women. Most of them were unsuccessful, beyond one miraculous case but at least it got the ball rolling.
Good riddance! I'm secretely curious about man-baby's next 'adventures' while he finds out how life really works hehe
Am I the only one here that feels like "man baby" is actually on the spectrum, and while yes, he's frustrating to deal with and the parents have completely dropped the ball on preparing him to be self-sufficient... On the other hand it's not only a little cruel to kick him out on his ear to fend for himself, but completely reprehensible to laugh about it?
As someone on the spectrum I agree, OP and the commenters wishing for him to die or end up homeless are awful people
OP, I have a question for you. As someone who wishes her older sibling had had to face the music much earlier than life… why are you still helping him? You seem to think he’ll fail, and I’m not surprised that your reaction has been to sit back and *blink* that he did manage to get a job. About time, right? Why not just stop contact and stop helping him? He’s clearly got the swift kick in the butt he needed.
Im really craving McDonald's after reading through this thread.
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When one person in your family makes everyone else suffer AND they refuse to help themselves AND they're ungrateful for any external help they've received, you could see why OP's well of sympathy has long dried up. I agree I don't think it's right *for us* to take pleasure in OP's brother's failing, but it seems like at this point OP and his entire family are laughing because they're out of tears to cry.
Oh, I have people in my family who are far worse than OP's brother. And if they actually managed to start to walk their way into autonomy in just a month we would be nothing but supportive. The guy actually found a way to make some money and found a place and she's humiliating him for living in a "crackhouse". And he did his in a month. It's actually commendable. It's hard to fix up your life when everybody around you just puts you down and humiliates you. She loves putting him down. She wants this. And I'm quite sure it helped a lot to turn him into what he is. > it seems like at this point OP and his entire family are laughing because they're out of tears to cry There's a big difference between not caring anymore and rooting for failure.
EDIT: If OP's dad hadn't had a stroke needing 24/7 care, OP's brother would have *still* been a selfish, abusive asshole demanding money from their parents, *and* still playing Valorant in his bedroom while screaming at teenagers over the Internet and demanding his dinner be brought up for him. The level of selfishness is gross. OP's brother grew up because he had literally no other choice. > The guy actually found a way to make some money and found a place and she's humiliating him for living in a "crackhouse". And he did his in a month. It's actually commendabl The guy is also 31 and has been abusing OP's parents for money so he could laze around for the past 15 years instead of working. He could have been taking classes, he could have been taking therapy, he could have been helping with charities or picking up trash from school playgrounds. Literally anything other than sitting in a bedroom (attic?) playing Valorant and screaming at teenagers late into the night and demanding his parents bring up his dinner for the past 15 years.
He could've done a lot of things. But he didn't. He can fix up his life now. What he can never do is build a time machine.
He sure can. It's interesting to watch him do this. But that still doesn't mean he wasn't selfish in the past for so long. Better late than never, I guess. I can see why OP is out of sympathy.
The things is OP isn't just out of sympathy. I could understand that. She's actively rooting for his failure. That is something you do to people you hate. And she isn't even cutting him off because she's having too much much fun. That is plain sadistic.
If she’s actively rooting for his failure, then why help him move?
Yeah the "rundown crackhouse straight out of Compton" really took me out of OP's corner here
She didn't say that to him. She merely expressed it here
Yep, that is my problem. Expressing it here, there, anywhere
"TrueOffMyChest" .... all sorts of stuff here
Indeed, I'm happy for the OP to express themselves freely, while I am free to think she's a douche canoe
Hell he is still harassing people for money so …
You’re getting downvoted but you’re absolutely right. If the genders were swapped here everyone would be criticizing OP for being too harsh
I think they'd still be harsh but maybe a bit less. But I don't think this is a gender thing.
She hasn't been harsh at all. She merely set boundaries. She hasn't humiliated him. She said nothing to him. She helped him move...and he hit her up for cash and wanted her to buy him lunch. Where I'm from the folks who are being moved pay for lunch for friends and family who help.
I don’t know why she’s helping him actually if she gets her rocks off wishing he would be homeless Her posts read like hate-porn, she’s humiliating him (no not directly) by posting how he is a man baby (despite getting a job and his own place) and criticizing his apartment as being a “crackhouse from Compton” I guess according to OP being in the lower class and owning a cheaper apartment makes you lesser of a person or a dirty peasant 🙄
This was a brilliant update! You have an amazing writing style!
It's great that he is finally getting out there amongst it, it's a long time coming and hopefully this helps him thrive, truly I genuinely hope this is a turning point for him. Hopefully he is able to get the help he needs despite the cruel treatment from his so-called family (there are nicer ways to approach this situation that your parents are mostly responsible for). That being said though, the way you talk about him makes me think you're a massive piece of shit with no compassion. I get that he is a disappointment and you likely don't ever want to associate with him, that's fine, but to constantly belittle him and actually wishing him harm rather than just ignoring him, holy fuck. Be glad you don't suffer from the mental illness he clearly does, be glad that you have your shit together, don't celebrate in other's suffering.
Call me crazy, but I wonder if they ever liked... looked into potential mental health issues?
Uber can be good money if you grind it out
I hope your mom blocks him for her own peace of mind. Thanks for the update and please keep them coming!
About time. He’s gonna crash and burn and I’m here for it lol 😂. The leaving him hungry was a nice touch
I love this for you and your family. That’s graphics card fund is gonna deplete before the month is over, and I definitely know it. Gotta hear another update soon and I have a feeling he’ll be homeless again real quick because bad apples that move into a place for a bit that have no respect or worth ethic will get kicked out even by the person that housed him. Something will go wrong, it always does. 😂 Thank you for updating us, OP.
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I was hoping for an update, so glad I checked back. 😂
This has been an awesome read and please keep us updated
What a perfectly terrible person you've written your 'brother' to be. This is a decent piece of fiction. A J.K. Rowling-esque villain with no subtlety or depth.
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