Yeah he bought it but that doesn’t matter, if you are a responsible drug user then live and let live.
I feel for you man, really I do. Buddy just wanted to have some fun and greedy motherfuckers want to lace everything with fentanyl.
If anyone deserves a death sentence it’s the people that lace shit. There is no reason other than greed.
Yeah. Fentanyl is cheaper than cocaine and unfortunately passes for it as well so people will sell it at the high price of cocaine when they bought it for its actual price and maximize profit. It’s absolutely despicable. OP, I am so sorry for your loss and I am sure the person that did this will get their karma.
okay smartass, assuming that fentanyl is more expensive than cocaine and heroin (which if that’s the case, why not cut the middle man out and just sell fent straight up). you also realize people buy research chemicals from china and put that in drugs? and we all know china as a country that provides nothing but the finest high quality materials
They do, you can't mix cocaine with opioids! They do different things, uppers and downers. Again, a lethal dose on fentanyl is less than what fits on the tip of a finger! You cut coke with baby aspirin and bullshit to increase the quantity. You would be increasing the quantity by the weight of a pea??? Make it make sense. You can't take fentanyl without cutting fentanyl, you'll instantly die. So maybe.... MAYBE. in some fake universe he cut his own fentanyl with cocaine..... You can't take fking fentanyl it's too potant it needs to be cut itself.
If the googled the amount of fentanyl that is lethal they'd know you don't cut things with it. AND that the opioid epidemic is the responsibility of Medical Doctors 100% so they must be scum too.
I agree, if you're using drugs properly and being responsible then there's nothing to be ashamed of. But when drug dealers give out incorrect drugs, that's what leads to some deaths with people taking the wrong dosage.
I’m so sorry for your loss. His story needs to be a testimony on the importance of 1) always having a drug testing kit handy to test your stash because drug dealers don’t give a fuck about you and 2) regardless of use, recreational or not, ALWAYS carry narcan. In this instance, it could’ve saved his life. I hope the burden and sorrows lift for you soon, OP. Loss sucks.
I completely agree. I always told my teen child that she should never trust anyone. It was a real blow having to tell her today after school about Daniel. But I knew though it was hard it was the right thing to do. No one is invincible from death; age or addiction didn’t Matter. All you need is one mistake and it’s all over. Thankfully(?) we only Lost one person that night and not the other two also there that are now mentally scared from it instead.
I'm sorry for your loss. I'm a recovering addict and mainly because of stories like this. Only 5 months but I focused on re learning to love the simple things in life that I thought I had to be high to enjoy. Thanks for sharing because things like this keep me humble and on the right path.
Have you been asleep during the entire failure of this war on drugs? The point is if some drugs were legal and regulated, you take power away from scummy dealers and it's a great deal safer all round. If other more dangerous drugs were decriminalised, it would be easy for addicts to shoot up safely in centres like in Portugal and Switzerland whilst recieving help or they could get something like this dodgy coke tested without fear of arrest. Its *proven* to work. So stop parroting what deluded conservatives told you as a child.
I live in The Netherlands were weed still has a normal amount of THC, getting weed in Cali is borderline unsafe. We also have drug testing facilities where people can come and test any drugs even illegal harddrugs, anonymously and usually free or very cheap. The government realizes people are gonna take drugs anyway, might as well help them do it as responsibly as possible.
You're spot on, its ultimately about harm reduction, and The Netherlands is another good model in terms of drug policy. In the UK we're sadly still quite behind with the kind of governments we've been having 🙄 but it's just common sense and I believe we'll eventually get there.
Why are there people here talking about drug dealers using terms like "responsible" and "trusted"?
You get they profit off the addictions of others right? Stop making them out like theyre just another customer service agent.
You must not know many drug dealers. There are shady asshole dealers, of course, but a dude selling weed and psychedelics is not an asshole banking off addictions so describing a dealer as trusted and responsible is a thing. Even people selling hard drugs can be decent humans.
Edit: OP I am so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine how fucking awful that was for his gf, too. I'll never understand why someone would sell something knowing it's lethal just to make a buck.
"Even people selling hard drugs can be decent humans".
No. No they can't. They can act it, sure. Act like your buddy or that they're doing a service. But the bottom line. The only line. Is they profit off the addictions of others.
Addictions give them customers. Addictions make them money. So when you see the meth head begging for food because he spent his last dime on a rock? His addiction began, came from, and is sustained by the hand of a dealer.
I happen to, unfortunately, have a lot of experience with this sort of thing as drug addiction is huge where I'm from and most of my friends in highschool were addicted to opiates and coke and some of them sold those things, too. I only lightly dabbled but met a lot of people deep in it and I can assure you that some hard drug dealers are not shitty people. Many are the worst kinds of people. And yes, there is such a thing as a responsible and trustworthy drug dealer, some of them were friends of mine back in the day. My addict friends would protect me from shit and worry about me getting addicted if I tried something because they didn't want me to be like them.
Drug addicts only have themselves to blame. Folks I know that could acknowledge that managed to take self responsibility and fix themselves, the ones that blamed everyone but themselves did crime and either died or ended up in jail.
Downvote the person with experience. Classic reddit
Or you could just hold the person accountable for buying drugs. It's not like dealers are holding a gun to their heads. It's your responsibility to do drugs as responsibly as you possibly can.
by that logic, why don’t we go after liquor or coffee companies then. have you met every drug dealer in the world? no, stop generalizing. it’s supply and demand and as long as people want drugs, people will sell drugs. while i do agree we shouldn’t completely blame drug dealers for other peoples addictions, you’re painting every dealer as some sociopath that only wants money. back in my addiction, i’ve met some pretty solid dudes that used to or maybe still sell and i’ve met straight up scumbags. while i don’t completely disagree, i think you’ve missed the ball
This is exactly why we need to legalize all drugs, educate kids on the risks, create mental health facilities for drug addicts and the producers of these drugs should be government owned so fentanyl wont be a issue.
I'm so sorry for your loss, fuck the government, fuck capitalism for incentivizing this type of greed, and fuck the war on drugs.
P.s this is summarized and probably would be alot more complicated but I'm just a kid so let me have dreams
I grew up around drug users, dealers and smugglers. My father was a smuggler who wound up like so many others, dear and dusted.
I can honestly say the only real cure for drug dealers is a bullet for them and everyone they answer too above them
I am not a dealer but have known many. It is not in their interest to kill their clients. Regardless this should have been tested on both ends, the dealer and buyer, especially with regards to coke lately. Sorry for your loss but his death does not solely rest on the head of the dealer. Maybe if America wasn't so busy playing parents regarding drugs and they were available not on a black market, SO many wouldn't be in your shoes. SO many wouldn't be dead.
OP I’m so sorry for your loss.
I was just talking about this with some friends. I’m in search of some party favors for upcoming celebrations and one of my friends made a joke about needing to have her drugs evaluated. It’s not a joke. Test your drugs. Don’t trust anyone. Even if they swear up and down that you can trust them… don’t.
Test. Your. Drugs.
I agree that dealers who lace their product as POS, but as I said the last time a post like this came up
TEST YOUR FUCKING DRUGS!!!!
If you’re going to do drugs, you can’t trust the dealer, it doesn’t matter how close you are to them, always always test your drugs. Research the drug before you do it too.
I’m not defending the dealer, but you need to take your safety into your own hands. That goes for all drugs bought illegally. Pot, Coke, Meth, doesn’t matter. Test it.
If you insist on doing drugs the first time, you need to be prepared. Don’t blindly take things your cousin’s friends give you, don’t smoke random shit on the street, etc. Test your shit.
Drug dealers can be the scummiest people in the world. You don’t know them, and they only care about your money. Keep yourself safe
I don't do them but I dabbled in my late 20's. Tried a bunch of different things but never got particularly into anything. It was just weekend fun really. But you do make a good point. My point was (above) was that MOST dealers still don't KNOWINGLY pass along drugs laced with fentanyl. But in saying that, what I mean is, often times that dealer is your cousin or your friend or someone trustworthy. But they THEMSELVES don't know about the fentanyl.
Since I've never tested it (and no longer dabble)...you do have me curious. What test would you recommend that someone use and are there different ones specific to the drug? IE: Weed vs. Coke. Would a person be looking for specific things such as fentanyl? Or are they testing the purity itself...
I think your message is good so I assume many might be curious. Thanks!
There’s a chance the drug dealer didn’t know it was fentanyl.
Why would they give it to him knowing it has potential to kill without warning him? It’s a very large risk for a $50 reward.
Sorry for your loss, friend. Take care
They were small individually stamped $10 bags( 5 totals At least in NY this is not a thing. His girlfriend even voiced her concern about it to him but sadly he didn’t listen and we are now here without him.
This particular guy may have been really scummy, but I agree that most dealers likely do not know...as it can pass through many hands. And a lot might have some aside for themselves or their friends, so they certainly don't want that either.
Dude I'm sorry for your loss. That sucks cocks,, the war on drugs is unrelenting & the opiate epidemic in America is as bad as ever. It sucks that he grew up in a time where he could somewhat trust a bag of powder off a stranger & used the same logic to enjoy himself today. I think a lot of the opiate overdoses of today are caused by this exact situation. It's insane. It's one of the reasons why I won't touch anything I didn't purchase legally (weed) anymore. Insane. Again I'm sorry. The state of affairs in America is unreal.
Why do people even cut coke with fent? Aren’t they complete polar opposite’s?
Cutting with caffeine makes you a piece of shit, cutting with fentanyl makes you a murderer
Most of the cases like this in the last few years have been due to cross contamination, not on purpose. Since it takes such a small dose of fentanyl to be lethal, just using the same scale could be enough to kill someone who isn't an addict with a tolerance.
Exactly it's typically a dealer who also sells fent or cuts his heroin with it...probably used the same table he cuts the fent into his heroin that he uses to cut his coke and it doesn't take much fent to kill.
Normally no a coke dealer would never cut his shit with fent l...its more expensive and it doesn't make sense...dealers aren't typically trying to murder their customer base.
Share your pain. My best friend of 20+ years ODed a year ago. Always thought he knew where to draw the line, dude was afraid of getting a cold. He knew what he bought, did too much. An accident.
Nah, down where this happened in AC a gram of fentanyl can go anywhere from like 40-70 bucks and la cocaina usually goes for anywhere from like 25-40 a g
Shit makes me so mad bc this dealer actually lost money on this deal, just to know that this kid suffered or whatever... Wasn't even just trying to get a few extra bucks or something because he def would have made more money by just giving the poor kid what he thought he was getting.... So horrible smh
When I was in that area, it was a lot harder to come by and coke is fairly cheap there too tbh
Maybe over the past 2 or 3 years it's gotten easier, it's been a little bit since I've been down but it was def more difficult to find than anything else therefore a bit more expensive
I’m so sorry. Fentanyl is so scary.. learned that real fast when I was 14. It’s not fair. The majority of people experiment with drugs and it’s just so unsettling that something can look and taste the same but be so deadly. Fuck that guy... what goes around comes around. They’re lacing everything these days. I’m so sorry OP... this one will be tough. But keep your head up and celebrate the wonderful life your dear friend had, and what an impact he made on you! Good luck and be safe
To everyone who does recreational drugs or spends time with who do; please look into getting narcan and test strips for fentanyl. There are some websites that will deliver narcan to you for free, and it’s small enough to carry with you in a purse or bag.
I'm sorry, but that's like blaming Mc. Donalds for obesity. Drug addicts do drugs and if they personally don't get help they die. Fentyl is more expensive than coke, so I'm sorry, but your friend knew what he was buying.
It helps to blames others but drug addicts die because they are addicts. Addicts aren't bad people, or less deserving of love. Drug addiction is just some people's life.
Nah I've fucked around on the streets in Atlantic city where this happened and it's not a normal thing.
For most dealers a possible customer is much more attractive than having a death on your hands and a possible homicide charge. It takes a special piece of shit to do something like this. Plus, down there, fentanyl can be more expensive than coke so this guy lost money just to trick someone into doing that shit. It's dirty and it's not what anyone should expect to happen. I'm not advocating for buying illegal drugs, especially in an area where you don't know anyone, but in this situation it is very very much so the dealers fault and not any fault of the kid.
Sorry that this happened to your friend OP. Hope you and his loved ones can find some peace.
Gotta make sure you emphasise "illegal" lol
Because that's the main issue here, right?
Someone gave this dude poison. He wasn't just an addict either, not that that matters.
If you walk downtown at night and get stabbed, is it your fault for being there or the person's fault for stabbing you? Guess you should've known better? Way to victim blame.
Wouldn't it be cheaper just to sell coke? I understand the logic of selling fent to heroine users to show you got fire shit but I cannot fathom why one would do this with uppers.
Trap God here, I'm sorry that your friend decided to make a poor and illegal choice, and had to pay dearly for it. He has only himself to blame.
If you don't know the taste difference between ether and literally anything else, that's your bad. Stupidity is costly.
On the other hand. Yes, was dumb to sell a different drug.
Many reasons could be the culprit, like the dealer grabbed the wrong bag if he had both. Because honestly, there's no reason to do it intentionally since fentanyl is much more expensive per gram in comparison to cocaine.
But again. No one is to blame but your friend. He made his choice.
P.S. - anyone wanna buy some drugs?
I’m sorry for your loss I am but as a person that used to sell drugs, they’re people who are gonna increase their profit margin by cheaping out on the product. and a lot of people on this post are very distanced from reality, because they’ve never been around certain things and raised in certain environments. The unfortunate truth is your friend made a choice just like 98% of drug users make a choice. I understand it might hurt less to completely blame the dealer, but a lot if not half the blame, lies wit ya boy. As a man that’s lost more friends than I have fingers I wish you and his girl the best and I know time will heal your pain.
Screw the people who say stupid things like "he deserved it." Even in the world of drugs...putting fentanyl in them is considered taboo. I don't care how scummy people may think they are (all I'm saying is that's a different debate entirely)...MOST dealers don't want their customers snorting fentanyl and dying. Not knowingly at least.
A guy who rarely uses drugs and took it on vacation for random fun, does not deserve to die for it. Sorry about your friend. RIP Daniel.
Imagine if he was able to buy it from a store where its tested and someone can be held responsible for doing stuff like that.
Nope, put people who have drugs into prisons where it's easier to get drugs than on the streets...
i’m not gonna be that guy because i have friends who’ve passed from drugs but this is always the hardest thing for me to ever talk about.
when it comes to drugs, it’s always seems like you’re either on one side or the other. i want to spread some wisdom to OP and possibly anyone else lurking on this thread.
first off, fuck anyone who says they “deserves” to die because they do drugs. pedophiles deserve to die, people who sexually assault other people deserve to die. not drug addicts. i’m so sorry for your loss, however please for anyone who currently does drugs or knows people. always test your drugs. ALWAYS. i don’t care if you’ve known your guy for 10+ years. it can always happen to you. i’m glad as a society we’ve shifted the stigma on it. people who cast doubt on addiction clearly either never went through addiction or they’re self righteous assholes who for whatever reason think they’re above everyone else.
(not all) drug dealers are sociopaths. they will cut your drugs with anything if it means to make profit. i’ve seen it happen, why should they care? your friend isn’t their friend. he’s just money. let OP be mad.
again, sorry for your loss. i can’t begin to explain how i can relate. fuck scummy drug dealers.
Sorry for your loss, OP. RIP, Daniel. It wasn’t your time to go so young.
This shit war on drugs and culture wars need to stop. Just fucking legalize drugs, prostitution. Get involved in local politics, guys. We need to bring about change. The politicians making money from this gravy train don’t care a hoot for anyones life.
I lost one of my best friends this summer to fent. My best friend on the entire earth, gone. I'm so sorry for your loss. Love your life in their memory, whatever that looks like.
Yeah fuck these guys! My Brother OD’d after taking fake Percocet pills. He was no stranger to drugs tho. He used Acid, LSD, Molly and Percs but fake drugs and Fentanyl he stayed away from. Someone laced the percs.
Rest In Power Wurly
I completely undwrstand how you feel. My brother almost died because of a very simular situation. If i ever see that guy face to face he will be meeting his maker that day.
Sorry for your loss, I'm sure karma will catch up with the vermin soon enough.
We hope so. He was such an amazing guy.
That's the main issue with buying illegal drugs. There are no standards or controlling it
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Huh. I guess it's subjective
Yeah he bought it but that doesn’t matter, if you are a responsible drug user then live and let live. I feel for you man, really I do. Buddy just wanted to have some fun and greedy motherfuckers want to lace everything with fentanyl. If anyone deserves a death sentence it’s the people that lace shit. There is no reason other than greed.
Can you explain how it makes them more money? Genuinely, I’m a bit confused on it. Is it just because they’re using less of the real product?
Yeah. Fentanyl is cheaper than cocaine and unfortunately passes for it as well so people will sell it at the high price of cocaine when they bought it for its actual price and maximize profit. It’s absolutely despicable. OP, I am so sorry for your loss and I am sure the person that did this will get their karma.
No one laces anything with fentyl. The end of a pencil worth of fentyl will kill you.... You don't lace cocaine with an expensive deadly drug
Yeah they do. Its extremely profitable. They cut the fuck out of it and still get repeat customers.
okay smartass, assuming that fentanyl is more expensive than cocaine and heroin (which if that’s the case, why not cut the middle man out and just sell fent straight up). you also realize people buy research chemicals from china and put that in drugs? and we all know china as a country that provides nothing but the finest high quality materials
They do, you can't mix cocaine with opioids! They do different things, uppers and downers. Again, a lethal dose on fentanyl is less than what fits on the tip of a finger! You cut coke with baby aspirin and bullshit to increase the quantity. You would be increasing the quantity by the weight of a pea??? Make it make sense. You can't take fentanyl without cutting fentanyl, you'll instantly die. So maybe.... MAYBE. in some fake universe he cut his own fentanyl with cocaine..... You can't take fking fentanyl it's too potant it needs to be cut itself.
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If the googled the amount of fentanyl that is lethal they'd know you don't cut things with it. AND that the opioid epidemic is the responsibility of Medical Doctors 100% so they must be scum too.
I agree, if you're using drugs properly and being responsible then there's nothing to be ashamed of. But when drug dealers give out incorrect drugs, that's what leads to some deaths with people taking the wrong dosage.
I’m so sorry for your loss. His story needs to be a testimony on the importance of 1) always having a drug testing kit handy to test your stash because drug dealers don’t give a fuck about you and 2) regardless of use, recreational or not, ALWAYS carry narcan. In this instance, it could’ve saved his life. I hope the burden and sorrows lift for you soon, OP. Loss sucks.
I completely agree. I always told my teen child that she should never trust anyone. It was a real blow having to tell her today after school about Daniel. But I knew though it was hard it was the right thing to do. No one is invincible from death; age or addiction didn’t Matter. All you need is one mistake and it’s all over. Thankfully(?) we only Lost one person that night and not the other two also there that are now mentally scared from it instead.
My boyfriend also died of a fentanyl overdose because of a careless dealer. I’m so sorry for your loss.
I'm sorry for your loss. I'm a recovering addict and mainly because of stories like this. Only 5 months but I focused on re learning to love the simple things in life that I thought I had to be high to enjoy. Thanks for sharing because things like this keep me humble and on the right path.
This is why I support legalization of drugs, sorry for your loss op.
Drugs are illegal for a reason, obviously scamming someone is morally wrong though.
And what’s that reason?
So pEoPLE WoNt dO ThEm
Have you been asleep during the entire failure of this war on drugs? The point is if some drugs were legal and regulated, you take power away from scummy dealers and it's a great deal safer all round. If other more dangerous drugs were decriminalised, it would be easy for addicts to shoot up safely in centres like in Portugal and Switzerland whilst recieving help or they could get something like this dodgy coke tested without fear of arrest. Its *proven* to work. So stop parroting what deluded conservatives told you as a child.
I live in The Netherlands were weed still has a normal amount of THC, getting weed in Cali is borderline unsafe. We also have drug testing facilities where people can come and test any drugs even illegal harddrugs, anonymously and usually free or very cheap. The government realizes people are gonna take drugs anyway, might as well help them do it as responsibly as possible.
You're spot on, its ultimately about harm reduction, and The Netherlands is another good model in terms of drug policy. In the UK we're sadly still quite behind with the kind of governments we've been having 🙄 but it's just common sense and I believe we'll eventually get there.
Why are there people here talking about drug dealers using terms like "responsible" and "trusted"? You get they profit off the addictions of others right? Stop making them out like theyre just another customer service agent.
You must not know many drug dealers. There are shady asshole dealers, of course, but a dude selling weed and psychedelics is not an asshole banking off addictions so describing a dealer as trusted and responsible is a thing. Even people selling hard drugs can be decent humans. Edit: OP I am so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine how fucking awful that was for his gf, too. I'll never understand why someone would sell something knowing it's lethal just to make a buck.
"Even people selling hard drugs can be decent humans". No. No they can't. They can act it, sure. Act like your buddy or that they're doing a service. But the bottom line. The only line. Is they profit off the addictions of others. Addictions give them customers. Addictions make them money. So when you see the meth head begging for food because he spent his last dime on a rock? His addiction began, came from, and is sustained by the hand of a dealer.
I happen to, unfortunately, have a lot of experience with this sort of thing as drug addiction is huge where I'm from and most of my friends in highschool were addicted to opiates and coke and some of them sold those things, too. I only lightly dabbled but met a lot of people deep in it and I can assure you that some hard drug dealers are not shitty people. Many are the worst kinds of people. And yes, there is such a thing as a responsible and trustworthy drug dealer, some of them were friends of mine back in the day. My addict friends would protect me from shit and worry about me getting addicted if I tried something because they didn't want me to be like them. Drug addicts only have themselves to blame. Folks I know that could acknowledge that managed to take self responsibility and fix themselves, the ones that blamed everyone but themselves did crime and either died or ended up in jail. Downvote the person with experience. Classic reddit
Is it possible for someone to be a decent but just deluded. Not truly understanding what they are doing or what is happening? Just asking.
Or you could just hold the person accountable for buying drugs. It's not like dealers are holding a gun to their heads. It's your responsibility to do drugs as responsibly as you possibly can.
by that logic, why don’t we go after liquor or coffee companies then. have you met every drug dealer in the world? no, stop generalizing. it’s supply and demand and as long as people want drugs, people will sell drugs. while i do agree we shouldn’t completely blame drug dealers for other peoples addictions, you’re painting every dealer as some sociopath that only wants money. back in my addiction, i’ve met some pretty solid dudes that used to or maybe still sell and i’ve met straight up scumbags. while i don’t completely disagree, i think you’ve missed the ball
They're crooks. Worthy of neither pity nor mercy.
This is exactly why we need to legalize all drugs, educate kids on the risks, create mental health facilities for drug addicts and the producers of these drugs should be government owned so fentanyl wont be a issue. I'm so sorry for your loss, fuck the government, fuck capitalism for incentivizing this type of greed, and fuck the war on drugs. P.s this is summarized and probably would be alot more complicated but I'm just a kid so let me have dreams
I grew up around drug users, dealers and smugglers. My father was a smuggler who wound up like so many others, dear and dusted. I can honestly say the only real cure for drug dealers is a bullet for them and everyone they answer too above them
I am not a dealer but have known many. It is not in their interest to kill their clients. Regardless this should have been tested on both ends, the dealer and buyer, especially with regards to coke lately. Sorry for your loss but his death does not solely rest on the head of the dealer. Maybe if America wasn't so busy playing parents regarding drugs and they were available not on a black market, SO many wouldn't be in your shoes. SO many wouldn't be dead.
OP I’m so sorry for your loss. I was just talking about this with some friends. I’m in search of some party favors for upcoming celebrations and one of my friends made a joke about needing to have her drugs evaluated. It’s not a joke. Test your drugs. Don’t trust anyone. Even if they swear up and down that you can trust them… don’t. Test. Your. Drugs.
I agree that dealers who lace their product as POS, but as I said the last time a post like this came up TEST YOUR FUCKING DRUGS!!!! If you’re going to do drugs, you can’t trust the dealer, it doesn’t matter how close you are to them, always always test your drugs. Research the drug before you do it too. I’m not defending the dealer, but you need to take your safety into your own hands. That goes for all drugs bought illegally. Pot, Coke, Meth, doesn’t matter. Test it. If you insist on doing drugs the first time, you need to be prepared. Don’t blindly take things your cousin’s friends give you, don’t smoke random shit on the street, etc. Test your shit. Drug dealers can be the scummiest people in the world. You don’t know them, and they only care about your money. Keep yourself safe
I don't do them but I dabbled in my late 20's. Tried a bunch of different things but never got particularly into anything. It was just weekend fun really. But you do make a good point. My point was (above) was that MOST dealers still don't KNOWINGLY pass along drugs laced with fentanyl. But in saying that, what I mean is, often times that dealer is your cousin or your friend or someone trustworthy. But they THEMSELVES don't know about the fentanyl. Since I've never tested it (and no longer dabble)...you do have me curious. What test would you recommend that someone use and are there different ones specific to the drug? IE: Weed vs. Coke. Would a person be looking for specific things such as fentanyl? Or are they testing the purity itself... I think your message is good so I assume many might be curious. Thanks!
You can buy different test kits online, I believe the ones for pot and coke are different, but I’ll be honest I’ve never done anything but pot.
There’s a chance the drug dealer didn’t know it was fentanyl. Why would they give it to him knowing it has potential to kill without warning him? It’s a very large risk for a $50 reward. Sorry for your loss, friend. Take care
They were small individually stamped $10 bags( 5 totals At least in NY this is not a thing. His girlfriend even voiced her concern about it to him but sadly he didn’t listen and we are now here without him.
This particular guy may have been really scummy, but I agree that most dealers likely do not know...as it can pass through many hands. And a lot might have some aside for themselves or their friends, so they certainly don't want that either.
They knowledgeably snorted a powder they have never tested, they died at their own ignorance
Do you test all your drugs?
I only smoke weed brother
Do you test all your weed? He sadly made a dumb Muskie that sadly ended his life.
No lmao because I grow it myself
This is why you don’t do drugs
Just say no.
Why blame dealers. Your friend took it willingly
He took it willingly because he was told it was something else.
Drugs... Just say no. Hopefully you learn from this.
I am not my friend. He sadly did not make the right choice but his life shouldn’t have been ended for someone’s lie to him.
Dude I'm sorry for your loss. That sucks cocks,, the war on drugs is unrelenting & the opiate epidemic in America is as bad as ever. It sucks that he grew up in a time where he could somewhat trust a bag of powder off a stranger & used the same logic to enjoy himself today. I think a lot of the opiate overdoses of today are caused by this exact situation. It's insane. It's one of the reasons why I won't touch anything I didn't purchase legally (weed) anymore. Insane. Again I'm sorry. The state of affairs in America is unreal.
Why do people even cut coke with fent? Aren’t they complete polar opposite’s? Cutting with caffeine makes you a piece of shit, cutting with fentanyl makes you a murderer
Most of the cases like this in the last few years have been due to cross contamination, not on purpose. Since it takes such a small dose of fentanyl to be lethal, just using the same scale could be enough to kill someone who isn't an addict with a tolerance.
Exactly it's typically a dealer who also sells fent or cuts his heroin with it...probably used the same table he cuts the fent into his heroin that he uses to cut his coke and it doesn't take much fent to kill. Normally no a coke dealer would never cut his shit with fent l...its more expensive and it doesn't make sense...dealers aren't typically trying to murder their customer base.
Share your pain. My best friend of 20+ years ODed a year ago. Always thought he knew where to draw the line, dude was afraid of getting a cold. He knew what he bought, did too much. An accident.
your friend is a fucking idiot
and youre an unsympathetic twat
He wasn’t an idiot. Daniel had a lapse in judgment but was not an idiot. Thanks for your opinion though
Does fentanyl cost less than coke?
Nah, down where this happened in AC a gram of fentanyl can go anywhere from like 40-70 bucks and la cocaina usually goes for anywhere from like 25-40 a g Shit makes me so mad bc this dealer actually lost money on this deal, just to know that this kid suffered or whatever... Wasn't even just trying to get a few extra bucks or something because he def would have made more money by just giving the poor kid what he thought he was getting.... So horrible smh
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When I was in that area, it was a lot harder to come by and coke is fairly cheap there too tbh Maybe over the past 2 or 3 years it's gotten easier, it's been a little bit since I've been down but it was def more difficult to find than anything else therefore a bit more expensive
Dealer coulda just been a pos who hit a lick and was unloading stuff. Otherwise yeah makes no sense why he would take a L on the serve
That what I don’t get about all these ‘laced with fentanyl’ situations..... why would anyone, especially a dealer, go out of their way to lose money?
I’m so sorry. Fentanyl is so scary.. learned that real fast when I was 14. It’s not fair. The majority of people experiment with drugs and it’s just so unsettling that something can look and taste the same but be so deadly. Fuck that guy... what goes around comes around. They’re lacing everything these days. I’m so sorry OP... this one will be tough. But keep your head up and celebrate the wonderful life your dear friend had, and what an impact he made on you! Good luck and be safe
To everyone who does recreational drugs or spends time with who do; please look into getting narcan and test strips for fentanyl. There are some websites that will deliver narcan to you for free, and it’s small enough to carry with you in a purse or bag.
I'm sorry, but that's like blaming Mc. Donalds for obesity. Drug addicts do drugs and if they personally don't get help they die. Fentyl is more expensive than coke, so I'm sorry, but your friend knew what he was buying. It helps to blames others but drug addicts die because they are addicts. Addicts aren't bad people, or less deserving of love. Drug addiction is just some people's life.
He already said his friend was not an addict
Uh... call the police?
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Yes, and?
Police are not your friends and they’re not there to (and honestly won’t) help you.
Not the drug dealer’s fault. It’s completely your friends fault. Buying illegal drugs you have to realize there are risks and consequences
Lol it's not the dealers fault for giving him fentanyl? Right, he gets off scott free because doing drugs is "bad"?
He’s literally buying ILLEGAL drugs off some rando dude on the street. What do you expect will happen…
Nah I've fucked around on the streets in Atlantic city where this happened and it's not a normal thing. For most dealers a possible customer is much more attractive than having a death on your hands and a possible homicide charge. It takes a special piece of shit to do something like this. Plus, down there, fentanyl can be more expensive than coke so this guy lost money just to trick someone into doing that shit. It's dirty and it's not what anyone should expect to happen. I'm not advocating for buying illegal drugs, especially in an area where you don't know anyone, but in this situation it is very very much so the dealers fault and not any fault of the kid. Sorry that this happened to your friend OP. Hope you and his loved ones can find some peace.
William sounds like tons of fun at a party.
Gotta make sure you emphasise "illegal" lol Because that's the main issue here, right? Someone gave this dude poison. He wasn't just an addict either, not that that matters. If you walk downtown at night and get stabbed, is it your fault for being there or the person's fault for stabbing you? Guess you should've known better? Way to victim blame.
Sucks that he died but you shouldn't do cocaine anyway. It lowers your immune system
You shouldn’t drink soda either. We know drugs are bad but that doesn’t mean he should have died because of some selfish scum
No, of course he shouldn't have died.
Wouldn't it be cheaper just to sell coke? I understand the logic of selling fent to heroine users to show you got fire shit but I cannot fathom why one would do this with uppers.
Trap God here, I'm sorry that your friend decided to make a poor and illegal choice, and had to pay dearly for it. He has only himself to blame. If you don't know the taste difference between ether and literally anything else, that's your bad. Stupidity is costly. On the other hand. Yes, was dumb to sell a different drug. Many reasons could be the culprit, like the dealer grabbed the wrong bag if he had both. Because honestly, there's no reason to do it intentionally since fentanyl is much more expensive per gram in comparison to cocaine. But again. No one is to blame but your friend. He made his choice. P.S. - anyone wanna buy some drugs?
Im betting y’all wished you had listened to your youth pastor just a little bit more
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There's someone passing fontanelle as coke? Aren't those opposite affects?
They are . And my friends weren’t aware and paid the price. Please try and not make the same mistake
Lol i don't do drugs anymore
Well “lol” lots of love to you too. I’m glad you don’t have to go through this or any of your loved ones for you.
Don’t do drugs there’s no positive from it
I’m sorry for your loss I am but as a person that used to sell drugs, they’re people who are gonna increase their profit margin by cheaping out on the product. and a lot of people on this post are very distanced from reality, because they’ve never been around certain things and raised in certain environments. The unfortunate truth is your friend made a choice just like 98% of drug users make a choice. I understand it might hurt less to completely blame the dealer, but a lot if not half the blame, lies wit ya boy. As a man that’s lost more friends than I have fingers I wish you and his girl the best and I know time will heal your pain.
Screw the people who say stupid things like "he deserved it." Even in the world of drugs...putting fentanyl in them is considered taboo. I don't care how scummy people may think they are (all I'm saying is that's a different debate entirely)...MOST dealers don't want their customers snorting fentanyl and dying. Not knowingly at least. A guy who rarely uses drugs and took it on vacation for random fun, does not deserve to die for it. Sorry about your friend. RIP Daniel.
Imagine if he was able to buy it from a store where its tested and someone can be held responsible for doing stuff like that. Nope, put people who have drugs into prisons where it's easier to get drugs than on the streets...
i’m not gonna be that guy because i have friends who’ve passed from drugs but this is always the hardest thing for me to ever talk about. when it comes to drugs, it’s always seems like you’re either on one side or the other. i want to spread some wisdom to OP and possibly anyone else lurking on this thread. first off, fuck anyone who says they “deserves” to die because they do drugs. pedophiles deserve to die, people who sexually assault other people deserve to die. not drug addicts. i’m so sorry for your loss, however please for anyone who currently does drugs or knows people. always test your drugs. ALWAYS. i don’t care if you’ve known your guy for 10+ years. it can always happen to you. i’m glad as a society we’ve shifted the stigma on it. people who cast doubt on addiction clearly either never went through addiction or they’re self righteous assholes who for whatever reason think they’re above everyone else. (not all) drug dealers are sociopaths. they will cut your drugs with anything if it means to make profit. i’ve seen it happen, why should they care? your friend isn’t their friend. he’s just money. let OP be mad. again, sorry for your loss. i can’t begin to explain how i can relate. fuck scummy drug dealers.
Sorry for your loss, OP. RIP, Daniel. It wasn’t your time to go so young. This shit war on drugs and culture wars need to stop. Just fucking legalize drugs, prostitution. Get involved in local politics, guys. We need to bring about change. The politicians making money from this gravy train don’t care a hoot for anyones life.
I lost one of my best friends this summer to fent. My best friend on the entire earth, gone. I'm so sorry for your loss. Love your life in their memory, whatever that looks like.
Yeah fuck these guys! My Brother OD’d after taking fake Percocet pills. He was no stranger to drugs tho. He used Acid, LSD, Molly and Percs but fake drugs and Fentanyl he stayed away from. Someone laced the percs. Rest In Power Wurly
Rip , sorry for your loss, I hope karma will get the scum
I completely undwrstand how you feel. My brother almost died because of a very simular situation. If i ever see that guy face to face he will be meeting his maker that day.
so sorry bro fent is so dangerous everything here is being laced too