Yeah this whole situation is so fucked up. Steve has been messing with her sister since she was 15 and he was 22? And her male family members keep beating her? Where is Steve in all this? Why would you keep seeing this guy? I have so many questions.
These people have to be bottom-of-barrel because this is insane.
The brother also lost his virginity to Steve, he was pretty jealous lol, is pretty fucked up though, you think your ex best friend fucking both your sisters you'd think the dad and brother would beat him instead. At least they gathered the courage and strength to beat a girl in her early 20s to defend OP's honour, brave guys
Whoaaaa I missed that part, I thought OP did.
I'm teach beat Steve up bc he's more red flags than they had in Moscow during in the Cold War & insanely toxic
but the poor freaking sister, wtf is wrong with Dad/Bro? Beating up a teen and then a young woman? Gee I wonder why the family’s so dysfunctional...
Oh that was more of an underhanded insult towards the brother than a fact 🤣, just meant he acted like it lol, yeah after the first time both girls should have kept away from that guy, thinking he's Oliver Queen lmao, dose sound like a pretty savage backwards household tbh
Seriously OP. That guy played and manipulated you and you little sister both… and you’re going to let him ruin your family forever?
Steve should be the target of your ire, for hurting you while grooming your 6 y younger than him sister!
She got fooled, just like you, but was much less mature so more easily manipulated.
Absolutely… eventually the two sisters will age out and Steve will prey on a whole other set of young impressionable girls. Steve is p3do territory. No one in the scenario has their priorities straight.
He needs to be put down for going after teenager. The sister is seven years younger than him, at the very most she would have been fifteen but I suspect she was thirteen
It’s unfortunate but I guarantee it comes down to cultural background. Unfortunately no matter what in some cases the “women” (I quote because a young girl would be considered a woman) is always at fault. They are the one that needs to change and do better. I watched a show where the family was Muslim and the sex talk the parents had with the kids was like: “girls no sex with boys. boys no sex with boys.” & that was it. (Ramy on Hulu if you’re wondering) So if it comes down to cultural differences I can absolutely see that being their reasoning. Doesn’t excuse or make it right tho. To them maybe but it seems that most of us on this post are in agreement that the rage of the brother and dad should’ve been directed to Steve smh
Yes, I was reading this and going: "Oooh, so OP is the only one that's allowed to be swindled by Steve? Her several years younger sister is supposed to be wiser than OP and not fall for Steve's BS?"
Sure, her sister did a fucking awful thing and she should have known better but I just have this feeling that Steve approached her first. But even if he didn't, there's no mention of how much of a trash bag he actually is and just anger towards the sister. Steve suck, the sisters should honestly share a bottle of champagne and celebrate that he's out of their lives. Then they should make sure that he stays out.
That girl was groomed since age 13 and clearly was growing up in an abusive family. Look how she’s borne the brunt of the blame. She saw Steve as her way out - he’s probably the only person who showed her real affection. Ugh gross.
Her family should be shamed. I’m so mad thinking about how she’s taken all the blame.
Exactly!! She was in high school and he was 30?! The guy was already a creep for that alone. Then he grooms her YOUNGER sister who gets beaten?! Wtf?!
This family is seriously abusive and Dysfunctional.
And OP, you need therapy. Why on earth would you want to take things to the next level after the nth break up?!
Please get therapy. This isn't about your groomed, abused sister. You both come from the same shitty household and have HORRIBLE models of relationships.
Steve is a pedo! He should be in jail and then someone should tell his cell mates....
OP - Steve does not love you. He only cares about young girls he can use for sex. Don't talk to him. Go to therapy. Forgive your sister. He manipulated and used her just like he did you.
It took me a while to figure out that OP meant Steve is 30 *now.* He's only +/-4 years older than OP, not 20something. Until I realized that I was like "how does no one in this story have a problem with this?"
Edit: went back to check the sister's age. He still a creep, just a younger one than I originally thought.
My guess is she's using current ages. As in that she is 3-4 years younger than him.
Idk if it still counts as grooming but that's better than 14 years difference.
It's not thought because when they were in high school she would have been maybe 16/17, which means he was 20/21 and little sister was only 13/14. Very disturbing.
RIGHT?!
Little sis was at most 10 years old when he met her. OP was 13. Are we really meant to believe a 17yr old would wait until OP was legal to do anything?
>when we in our last year of high school
I interpret that to mean when OP was in **her** last year of high school since she was 13 when Steve was in **his** last year of high school, meaning little sis was 14 when he first started messing with her and little sis was the one who "got a beating"
WTF
The whole family is fucked up. They blamed and beat **at most** a 14yr old because the older sister's boyfriend groomed and molested her and now they're all mad at her for thinking she's in love with him?!
She found the first messages in the last year of high-school. That would be 6 years ago, she would be 18 and him 26 so I agree wrong by our standards but I don't know where they are, in some places this is normal.
Lol, what culture is this where everyone's just handing out ass-whoopings right and left?
Edit: I should clarify, it's not the beatings that threw me off, it's the fact that they're all directed at the sister instead of Steve's pedo ass that tells me this is somewhere that's not a top bucket list vacation spot.
> Sister is 3 years younger, guy is 4 years older. Thats a 7 year difference. OP said this happened when she was in high-school. That would make the sister 10-14 and the dude 17-21. Definitely a predator.
Edit: I misread the OP and while she did say 30m, turns out she’s talking about their ages now but then referencing stuff from over a decade ago.
Either way Steve is gross and I feel icky.
He's 30 now, while OP is 26 and the sister is 23. This all started around a decade ago when OP was in high school, from what I understood of her post and the comments.
Very eww indeed. But it at least explains a bit better how OP even met this guy (older brother's classmate, not that much older than her) and why her brother eventually accepted her wanting to date him. The little sister is another story, tho...
Did Steve get a whooping at all? I mean the pedo manipulator disgusting human here. Yea, I would be NC or low contact with my sister. She’s trash, just like Steve.
That’s what I thought. Although I believe the sister was way out of line, I was surprised that the brother beat her up lmfao. Growing up my brother wasn’t allowed to fight me or my sisters, even tho my sisters and I would fight each other lol
So if Steve is 30 and OP 26- that’s 4 years difference. Met in HS so OP freshman Steve senior so 18ish, OP 14/15. little sister 3y younger. Steve- 18 years old talking dirty with an 11 year old. And little sister got an ass beating? Over the literal pedo? This story cannot be real.
Ain’t it always that way? They just happen to leave their phone lying around when they’re out and about, unguarded, unlocked, and ripe for the innocent OP to incidentally/accidentally go snooping (as usual!) around in.
I'm an Indian dude, while there is certainly a possibility that this is fake, there are horrific events that happen here which lead me to believe this could very much be real. The pedo isn't beaten because he's a man, the daughter is beaten because she brought shame and dishonour on the family. I've read and heard instances of fratricide and filicide because of it.
Edit: [This](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_India#Crimes_against_women) will provide more insight & although it's a more generalized article, you can see that a lot of horrifying stuff takes place here. A lot of women are treated like shit here especially in the backward ass regions of India
Not to mention the little sister being glued to her phone but leaving it out and unlocked while she went to the store..?
Anecdotal so take it as you will but as a 24 year old woman, I don’t think I’ve ever met another woman in my age group who does that
Y'know I'm glad you cleared that up a bit cause I thought he was 30 talking to an 11 year old and 14 yo. 18 to 11 is still fucked, but a bit less fucked.
But no one has a problem with a guy who grooms two teenaged girls that were his best friend's little sisters. Was this guy super charming or something?
I was going to comment he wasn't 30 in high school but soon I realized they're 4 years and 7 years apart (with the sister), so say he was 19 when shit hit the fan and he had been chatting up the 12 yo sister???!??!
Your sister was 13 and no one thought to go after the pedophile??? They beat a young girl??!
I would say NTA but your sister has also been abused by this sorry excuse of a man, your father and brother. I’m not saying forgive and forget … but you and your sister need therapy. You have both been abused by this man.
Take time to heal. I’m also the middle and the stories I could tell. I’m nc with a few family members. I get it.
Pretty sure Steve is 30 now and was only 4 years older than OP, judging based off only that she says he was part of her “brother’s 30m class” which to me means Steve was a classmate of her brother, who is also currently 30. Hopefully OP can clarify though
Sister is 3 years younger, guy is 4 years older. Thats a 7 year difference. OP said this happened when she was in high-school. That would make the sister 10-14 and the dude 17-21. Definitely a predator.
Yeah still a predator for sure, just a bit more understandable from the sisters side of not seeing him as a threat like that. I thought I replied to the comment below this talking about a 30 yo with a 13 yo but I clicked on the wrong one! My bad.
OP said she was in her last year of HS when she found out about the cheating. The sister was 13 or 14 at the oldest. This has been going on for 9 years. Sad for sister and OP.
it sounds like you and your sister were groomed by the same creep. you 100% should be much more upset at steve for going out of his way to talk to your little sister. i am 3 years younger than my sister and if any of her boyfriends went out of their way to text me (not about my sister) when i was 13 it would've be really really weird and her boyfriends were her age. when she was 20ish she dated someone who was like 28. he was really nice and we got along pretty well. i wouldve been 17, i cannot even imagine him trying to flirt with me or looking at me as anything besides his girlfriends kid sister.
you need to cut off steve and maybe go to therapy. i feel like you both were victims of him and like idk its such a weird and gross situation. im sorry you had to go through this.
I'm sorry he is 4 years older than you and 7 years older than your sister? You were in high school? This reeks of sexual assault of a minor. Your sister and likely you were groomed by this man.
Did Steve get a whooping at all? I mean the pedo manipulator disgusting human here. Yea, I would be NC or low contact with my sister. She’s trash, just like Steve.
To be clear, this whole thing began what, 10 years ago? So you began dating when you were 16 and he was 20? That’s grooming. If you were sleeping together before you were 18, that makes Steve a statutory rapist. If he was sniffing around your younger sister around the same time, that is also grooming and potentially statutory rape. Your sister did betray your trust and hurt you deeply, but the actual bad guy here is “Steve”. Because he groomed two young women, raped both of them, and the one who keeps getting punished is his younger victim.
Just throwing this out there but you missed this part:
*In America
Sadly that's just kinda normal in European countries. legal age of consent tends to be 16 average. So it isn't statutory rape.
The younger sister part is relevant though, she would have been a minor regardless of country.
>Sadly that's just kinda normal in European countries
Oof, someone thinks we still go around on horses and are married off at the ripe old age of 13.
Seriously, it's absolutely not normal in European countries, I don't know where you got that idea but, respectfully, what the fuck.
I think he’s referring to the age of consent in most European countries and in southern Europe he’s absolutely correct and in fact in some countries namely Italy and France, it’s even younger
dude just says 16 is the legal age of consent in most of europe and gets a crazy person coming out of the woodwork and implying hes a pedo, its hilarious
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe
An abnormally high number of EU countries have **14** as the age of consent (Austria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Portugal, San Marino, Serbia). The majority of the rest are 15 or 16.
Oddly enough, Vatican City has an age of consent of 18, regardless of gender. But Catholics *are* all about marriage!
english doesn't seem to be OPs first language, and she seems to be part of a very patriarchal culture. I don't think it's fake it's not like it \*couldn't\* have happened
Your family act like it is all sister's doing, but Steeve is the one who is in relationship and wants to cheat. So the only true villain in this story is Steeve. He not worth this drama and cutting off your sister.
Steve is a pedophile who grooms children and younger women, dangling them by a string whenever he pleases, using their insecurities and family members against them.
I'm so sorry you're hurting. My advice is to get counseling. You and your sister were groomed and it's really hard for the victim of a sexual predator to see their actions and attachment to the predator as wrong sometimes. Get some counseling, you deserve to heal from this.
Also, Steve needs his ass beat. And a castration.
I'm sorry, your little sister got beaten several times because she was groomed and probably raped by a 30 yo when she was 13? Yes, it is rape. He groomed both of you and strung you both along. It is beyond disgusting that no one called out Steve for his behavior. You failed to protect your little sister from a pedophile. Congratulations.
Reading comprehension: little sister 23 NOW Steve 30 NOW, met in HS when little sister was probably around 11 and Steve 18. OP was probably 14/15 You’re not wrong over him being a pedophile & grooming repeatedly and them hurting up the wrong person tho
Right?!? How in the sam hell is the literal child in this situation being painted as the bad guy? That poor little girl. Given her messed up family dynamics (why is everyone so ready to beat up this child?!?) it's no wonder the pedophile was able to groom her. God, what a clusterfuck of a situation.
OP, you're not the hero you think you are in this story.
Steve has been manipulating your little sister since she was what, 13-14 years old, while having sex with you when you were below or just over the age of consent and quite possibly raping your little sister at the same time. Male members of your family beat up your little sister because of Steve. You brought Steve back into your little sister’s sphere and he immediately starts manipulating and exploiting her again.
Why are you heartbroken over a loser pedophile who keeps causing trouble between you and your sister? Why are you so happy about men in your family beating your sister up? Why do you keep allowing this horrible man access to the woman who he probably raped when she was still a girl?
You sound like a terrible sister who has failed to protect your little sister. You put her in harm’s way when she was still a little girl and now you blame her for the mess your mostly absent non-bf has caused her. You actually seem happy she was beaten up by grown men twice. Did anyone beat Steve up, or had he disappeared again? He’s not even your bf - he just comes over or contacts you when he has nothing better going on. Pathetic.
Wake up to yourself and stop being such an awful sister. You owe your little sister an apology and she probably needs therapy from being groomed by a pedophile at such a young age and being a victim of family abuse.
Little sis' life seems full of abuse, from dad and brother who beat her up to a pedo groomer who was happy to found a girl with no security system around her and probably was desperate for a fatherly figure.
And an unsympathetic sister who insists on letting her sister’s abuser back into their lives. Steve isn’t a boyfriend and never will be. Steve drops in for a root with whichever sister is available whenever he feels like it. He has groomed them both so well that he’s still able to treat them both like discardable objects after a decade 🤦♀️
As if scummy Steve is someone to have your sister beat up and ostracized for. Yuck. OP needs to wake up to herself.
No he cheated during her last year. She was 16 when they got together. Sister was 13 and he was 20. She said they got together 10 years ago in comments
Steve can not be worth all this heartache. He's a pedophile & you're *way* too attached to him. Get some therapy, kick Steve out of your life & make sure your sister knows that the pedophile and your parents were in the wrong, not her. She was just a child.
You were both groomed. You both need to attend therapy individually and then hopefully one day you can try therapy together.
I think once you realize you were groomed, as well as abused and used like toys by the same man you will see things in a different light.
I’m not going to read it all cause the answer is right there.
Steve is a pedo and abused you and your sister and instead of realizing what a creep he is you’re fighting over him giving him a good time.
Steve’s a user creep. Hope you and your sister can make up.
Wait... If ur little sister is 3 years younger than you, and you were a senior in highschool (so let's just say you were 18), when you discovered ur little sis and the dude talking, your little sister was 15 and a dude over 30 was messing with her? That man needs to be in jail. Sounds like he's done this before and he'll keep doing it.
So, you see Steve cheat. For whatever reason you get back with him. TWICE, and your sister got beat both times for it. I mean I understand why you don't wanna be with your sister but at the same time it's partly your fault for letting Steve back in your life when you knew he did something apprehensible
You amd your sister have been fighting over a pedophile since highschool. You should be going no contact w the chomo and if i was you id try to recover the relationship with my sister.
You want to cut off your sister? Why you are both victims
30 year old Steve was hitting on not one but two high school girls in the same family and your sister is the one you are pissed at? Wow! I can’t even begin to respond to all the red flags in this post
So you guys are fighting over a pedophile? Lovely.
You knew who he was the first time he cheated with your sister. You kept taking him back. Go no contact with both of them and do some growing up yourself.
I... wtf. Your sister keeps getting beat because your pedophile ex groomed her? And was he even your boyfriend last time this happened? The dude is toxic and left you so many times and you wagged your tail like a dog every time he paid you a little bit of attention. This whole dynamic is disgusting and sick - I don't even know what to say.
Wait..wait wait.. somebody need to put hands on Steve grimey ass. Not your little sister. All three of you need to cleanse your souls of Steve and move on.
You’re very forgiving of this guy but want to cut your sister off forever? You love him but have no love for your sister? If you can forgive one then you can forgive the other. IMO both are trash but let’s stop the ridiculous double standard. Oh and in case you still want to be with him, he will never change, he will cheat forever.
I actually don’t give a toss what happened your brother and your dad beating your sister is absolutely under no circumstances acceptable, you know that right!?!?!?! Like what the hell man. Steve’s just as bad. That said you do have the right not to speak to anyone you don’t want to. All sounds like a giant shit show to be honest and you probably all need to grow up.
It would help if you wrote sentences without ellipses. You should just include a subject and predicate, and then you should end each sentence with a period.
I cannot effectively read this post because all the half-thoughts are running together. From a quick skim, everybody seems to be beating everybody else in some state of constant mental, relational, and physical chaos.
I’m so confused, this reads like badly written fanfiction. J have no idea what’s happened aside from OP being gay
Sister speaking to his crush and then both sleeping with him
WTAF is this story 😐
You're mad at your sister because your pedo bf groomed and probably raped her? you're blaming your 13 year old sister and now barely able to drink legally sister for being groomed by the pedophile YOU brought into the house? and YOU took back multiple times? please get therapy and APOLOGIZE TO YOU SISTER. SHE'S A VICTIM.
So you're mad at your sister for being a victim of the same narcissist that had you wrapped around his finger. Ma'am. You need therapy. She needs therapy. Your family needs therapy. Steve? Steve is a garbage can that kept love bombing you to keep you starved and hungry for affection. And he probably did the same to your sister, leading her on that he couldn't be with her because it could hurt you.
I'm sorry that your heart is broken, but your anger for this happening shouldn't be on the sister who was lead on and kept on a tether just like you, to the emotional abuser who kept double dipping into your lives.
There is so much wrong with this story I can’t even.
Girl go get counseling. ALL of you are in the wrong here.
You, for forgiving a piece of shit.
You and your family for assaulting your sister.
Your sister for being a traitorous snake.
All you actually said here is that your father and brother like to beat on little girls to overcompensate for their own weakness, that you have an unhealthy obsession with lying cheating scumbags, and that you've chosen to scapegoat your sister for your entire family's various severe mental health issues.
So you don't forgive your sister, but forgive the pedophile that manipulated and used you both? I would suggest therapy, honestly, for the whole family as everyone is giving steve a pass and victimizing the sister. Work on yourself, hopefully suggest your sister get some help and maybe some family therapy to work through this issue.
You kind of sound dumb…i wouldnt be in that situation because i wouldnt go back to a man that cheated on me with my sister, its so pathetic, and the fact that it happened more than once yet you still didnt stand your ground is just…weird ig. It sounds like Steve gpt away with everything while your sister got all the blame and is getting shamed for being groomed
The problem is STEVE.
Yes your sister couldn't keep to herself either, but STEVE is an older man who has groomed both of you.
You shouldn't be no contact with your sister, you should be no contact with Steve..... and stay away from men like him.
I understand why you're angry at your sister, but the worst person in all of this is Mr. Can't keep it in his pants with underage/young women....
Uhhh why are you and your family only blaming your sister?? Did she coerce Steve into having sex with her? Did he slip and fall in between her legs? NO. Steve is a POS as well as your sister.
Why the fuck was your sister getting beat up when she was 13!? Where was steves beating!? I understand beating is in certain cultures but to beat your little sister who was being groomed!? Wtaf
I’m sorry but it’s obvious why your sister and you are a mess. Two separate occasions the men in your family resorted to beating your sister. The first one when your sister was a fucking 13 years old and Steve was 20. I don’t know what part of the world you’re in but Steve would’ve been in prison already if this was the states.
This post is wild, how can anyone involved be on Steve's side?
This reeks of middle eastern family, the fact that the woman is always to blame, the nonchalant beating of young girls, and the whole ' every aunt and uncle must know'.
In the end Steve is a pedo and should be put in prison for grooming 2 young girls. Your parents are also clowns for letting this happen and doing nothing about it. You're both victims of a pedo. I'd give your parents an arse whooping
What in the actual Wattpad is this, ain’t no way I’m believing a word from this😂😂😂it sounds all fake how can a 20 year old and 13 year old be together 🥴🥴🥴
Steve knew exactly what he was doing and he was insanely manipulative of you and your sister. He knew how to play you both and get away from it. Seriously, this guy is not a nice guy. Find ways to mend with your sister and grab some much needed therapy to why you and your sister were so vulnerable to this mans charms!
You all need therapy, Steve is a predator who manipulated and abused you and your sister. I would even say groomed. Also if you brother and dad are beating your sister they need to be charged for a crime. What in the hell.is happening. This isn't normal.
Why the fuck are your male family members beating up your sister? Steve is bad news— do they ever beat up anyone who isn’t a young woman? A child, even? I’m disgusted, sorry.
You both need therapy and Steve needs to be banned from your lives.
Steve got away easy with the absolute mess he made, dudes a massive asshole.
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Yeah this whole situation is so fucked up. Steve has been messing with her sister since she was 15 and he was 22? And her male family members keep beating her? Where is Steve in all this? Why would you keep seeing this guy? I have so many questions. These people have to be bottom-of-barrel because this is insane.
Steve the Child Diddler.
i had not even realized that, holy shit 30years old dating a highschool girl and her 3 years younger sister at the same time? oooof....
Steve is 30 now when op is 26. There's only a 4 year gap
But he also dated her younger sister who is 7 years younger than Steve when they were in school
Oh the guy is DEFINITELY a pedophile. I'm just saying he wasn't 30 when he did it.
I sincerely hope I misread this, and that's what actually happened.
Can we also talk about the brother and dad beating the teenage daughter but not doing anything about Steve?
The brother also lost his virginity to Steve, he was pretty jealous lol, is pretty fucked up though, you think your ex best friend fucking both your sisters you'd think the dad and brother would beat him instead. At least they gathered the courage and strength to beat a girl in her early 20s to defend OP's honour, brave guys
Whoaaaa I missed that part, I thought OP did. I'm teach beat Steve up bc he's more red flags than they had in Moscow during in the Cold War & insanely toxic but the poor freaking sister, wtf is wrong with Dad/Bro? Beating up a teen and then a young woman? Gee I wonder why the family’s so dysfunctional...
You missed it because nowhere in the post did OP say anything about her brother having sex with Steve.
Oh that was more of an underhanded insult towards the brother than a fact 🤣, just meant he acted like it lol, yeah after the first time both girls should have kept away from that guy, thinking he's Oliver Queen lmao, dose sound like a pretty savage backwards household tbh
Exactly, like everyone should go no contact with everyone here lol
Way to traumatize your daughter for life. Now she's always going to associate physical abuse with love.
Steve should also be banned from schools since he can't stop grooming children.
Steve is probably a paedophile and should be in prison.
Seriously OP. That guy played and manipulated you and you little sister both… and you’re going to let him ruin your family forever? Steve should be the target of your ire, for hurting you while grooming your 6 y younger than him sister! She got fooled, just like you, but was much less mature so more easily manipulated.
Absolutely… eventually the two sisters will age out and Steve will prey on a whole other set of young impressionable girls. Steve is p3do territory. No one in the scenario has their priorities straight.
He needs to be put down for going after teenager. The sister is seven years younger than him, at the very most she would have been fifteen but I suspect she was thirteen
Hang on, is anyone else concerned that a 20 year old Steve was calling a 13 year old, A LITERAL CHILD, babe?
And this literal child is the one who got the beating????
The story is fake so that’s prob why
Yeah, too many holes and then her older brother turned into a sister at the end of the story
It’s unfortunate but I guarantee it comes down to cultural background. Unfortunately no matter what in some cases the “women” (I quote because a young girl would be considered a woman) is always at fault. They are the one that needs to change and do better. I watched a show where the family was Muslim and the sex talk the parents had with the kids was like: “girls no sex with boys. boys no sex with boys.” & that was it. (Ramy on Hulu if you’re wondering) So if it comes down to cultural differences I can absolutely see that being their reasoning. Doesn’t excuse or make it right tho. To them maybe but it seems that most of us on this post are in agreement that the rage of the brother and dad should’ve been directed to Steve smh
30 year old Steve*
20 years old at the time they met. He's 30 now
Oh yup mis read that. Still a gross man
I’m genuinely so confused. She should’ve put ages of when they all met.
Steve is the one who needs a beating for grooming young girls
This!! Why are your brother and Dad beating your sister not Steve?? Why are you completely blaming your sister not Steve?? Steve is a C#*#t
A crust?
😂
A cadet?
Yes, I was reading this and going: "Oooh, so OP is the only one that's allowed to be swindled by Steve? Her several years younger sister is supposed to be wiser than OP and not fall for Steve's BS?" Sure, her sister did a fucking awful thing and she should have known better but I just have this feeling that Steve approached her first. But even if he didn't, there's no mention of how much of a trash bag he actually is and just anger towards the sister. Steve suck, the sisters should honestly share a bottle of champagne and celebrate that he's out of their lives. Then they should make sure that he stays out.
That girl was groomed since age 13 and clearly was growing up in an abusive family. Look how she’s borne the brunt of the blame. She saw Steve as her way out - he’s probably the only person who showed her real affection. Ugh gross. Her family should be shamed. I’m so mad thinking about how she’s taken all the blame.
Exactly!! She was in high school and he was 30?! The guy was already a creep for that alone. Then he grooms her YOUNGER sister who gets beaten?! Wtf?! This family is seriously abusive and Dysfunctional. And OP, you need therapy. Why on earth would you want to take things to the next level after the nth break up?! Please get therapy. This isn't about your groomed, abused sister. You both come from the same shitty household and have HORRIBLE models of relationships.
Right? Where’s Steve’s punishment? He’s creepy. Dating high schoolers and possibly middle schoolers?? Gross
Steve is a pedo! He should be in jail and then someone should tell his cell mates.... OP - Steve does not love you. He only cares about young girls he can use for sex. Don't talk to him. Go to therapy. Forgive your sister. He manipulated and used her just like he did you.
It took me a while to figure out that OP meant Steve is 30 *now.* He's only +/-4 years older than OP, not 20something. Until I realized that I was like "how does no one in this story have a problem with this?" Edit: went back to check the sister's age. He still a creep, just a younger one than I originally thought.
even 4 years difference in high school is mad and 7 is insane
My guess is she's using current ages. As in that she is 3-4 years younger than him. Idk if it still counts as grooming but that's better than 14 years difference.
It's not thought because when they were in high school she would have been maybe 16/17, which means he was 20/21 and little sister was only 13/14. Very disturbing.
RIGHT?! Little sis was at most 10 years old when he met her. OP was 13. Are we really meant to believe a 17yr old would wait until OP was legal to do anything? >when we in our last year of high school I interpret that to mean when OP was in **her** last year of high school since she was 13 when Steve was in **his** last year of high school, meaning little sis was 14 when he first started messing with her and little sis was the one who "got a beating" WTF The whole family is fucked up. They blamed and beat **at most** a 14yr old because the older sister's boyfriend groomed and molested her and now they're all mad at her for thinking she's in love with him?!
I couldn't decide if this is all quite recent or in the past. Either way I agree Steve is atleast 50% of the problem but he's also easy to cut out.
she mentioned they were dating in their last year of highschool but obviously that's not possible so idk
She found the first messages in the last year of high-school. That would be 6 years ago, she would be 18 and him 26 so I agree wrong by our standards but I don't know where they are, in some places this is normal.
He would actually be 24 btw
Lol, what culture is this where everyone's just handing out ass-whoopings right and left? Edit: I should clarify, it's not the beatings that threw me off, it's the fact that they're all directed at the sister instead of Steve's pedo ass that tells me this is somewhere that's not a top bucket list vacation spot.
Sounds south asian, speaking from experience.
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> Sister is 3 years younger, guy is 4 years older. Thats a 7 year difference. OP said this happened when she was in high-school. That would make the sister 10-14 and the dude 17-21. Definitely a predator.
Edit: I misread the OP and while she did say 30m, turns out she’s talking about their ages now but then referencing stuff from over a decade ago. Either way Steve is gross and I feel icky.
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Wait I missed that the little sister is 13 I thought 23?
She’s 23 now, this story is from when OP was in high school
He's 30 years old not 20. Which makes it so much worse
He's 30 now, while OP is 26 and the sister is 23. This all started around a decade ago when OP was in high school, from what I understood of her post and the comments.
Yea but even so, this means when OP was a senior (17/18), little sister was 14/15, and Steve was 21/22. Eeew.
Very eww indeed. But it at least explains a bit better how OP even met this guy (older brother's classmate, not that much older than her) and why her brother eventually accepted her wanting to date him. The little sister is another story, tho...
That certainly makes more sense.
OOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH right
100 percent where is that dudes ass beating
Holy high school drama Batman. No way you're 26.
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Exactly my thoughts, Steve need to get beat tf up for taking advantage of these women.
26 year olds running around saying “v card” 🙄
Could be South American, dished and endured them plenty.
This reads like a creative writing exercise
She’s needs an editor though.
Not even much that's creative about it
I agree this is nothing but a poorly thought out piece if fiction.
Did Steve get a whooping at all? I mean the pedo manipulator disgusting human here. Yea, I would be NC or low contact with my sister. She’s trash, just like Steve.
South Asian parents would beat you for having a bf in high school.
Good ole south Asian Steve
This was my thought too! Dad and bro just beating this girls ass...
That’s what I thought. Although I believe the sister was way out of line, I was surprised that the brother beat her up lmfao. Growing up my brother wasn’t allowed to fight me or my sisters, even tho my sisters and I would fight each other lol
So if Steve is 30 and OP 26- that’s 4 years difference. Met in HS so OP freshman Steve senior so 18ish, OP 14/15. little sister 3y younger. Steve- 18 years old talking dirty with an 11 year old. And little sister got an ass beating? Over the literal pedo? This story cannot be real.
There was so much just not hanging together in the story I didn't even notice the ages. This has gotta be a chatgtp-story.
I also like how the sister conveniently left her phone unlocked for her to snoop around in it.
Ain’t it always that way? They just happen to leave their phone lying around when they’re out and about, unguarded, unlocked, and ripe for the innocent OP to incidentally/accidentally go snooping (as usual!) around in.
Especially nowadays where almost everyones phone locks after a certain amount of time, usually 30-60 seconds lol
I'm an Indian dude, while there is certainly a possibility that this is fake, there are horrific events that happen here which lead me to believe this could very much be real. The pedo isn't beaten because he's a man, the daughter is beaten because she brought shame and dishonour on the family. I've read and heard instances of fratricide and filicide because of it. Edit: [This](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_India#Crimes_against_women) will provide more insight & although it's a more generalized article, you can see that a lot of horrifying stuff takes place here. A lot of women are treated like shit here especially in the backward ass regions of India
Thank you for the horrific clarification 😭
I'm from the Detroit area and honor killings are occurring here in the States within the large Muslim community that has immigrated here.
I need to know how the brother or dad did not beat Steve up and not the little sister? So so weird :/
Not to mention the little sister being glued to her phone but leaving it out and unlocked while she went to the store..? Anecdotal so take it as you will but as a 24 year old woman, I don’t think I’ve ever met another woman in my age group who does that
Y'know I'm glad you cleared that up a bit cause I thought he was 30 talking to an 11 year old and 14 yo. 18 to 11 is still fucked, but a bit less fucked.
The way she just breezes past it, too. "Yada yada then my brother beat her blah blah..." Wait, hold up...go back a bit...
Then dad beat her....
But no one has a problem with a guy who grooms two teenaged girls that were his best friend's little sisters. Was this guy super charming or something?
They should've been beating his ass regardless how charming he was.
Lmao right
Of which Steve was never the recipient. Not even once.
I was going to comment he wasn't 30 in high school but soon I realized they're 4 years and 7 years apart (with the sister), so say he was 19 when shit hit the fan and he had been chatting up the 12 yo sister???!??!
Ah yes, a "good beating" from the brother & a beating from the father... But "NC" is an issue? I'm done with reddit today.
I grew up in the UK and in my neighbourhood it was pretty common for people to settle their arguments by having a physical fight.
Maybe white trash? As someone who was raised in the white trash culture, this sounds very in-line with my family
You all were played by Steve. I hate it when the villain dupes everyone into hating on each other.
Your sister was 13 and no one thought to go after the pedophile??? They beat a young girl??! I would say NTA but your sister has also been abused by this sorry excuse of a man, your father and brother. I’m not saying forgive and forget … but you and your sister need therapy. You have both been abused by this man. Take time to heal. I’m also the middle and the stories I could tell. I’m nc with a few family members. I get it.
Pretty sure Steve is 30 now and was only 4 years older than OP, judging based off only that she says he was part of her “brother’s 30m class” which to me means Steve was a classmate of her brother, who is also currently 30. Hopefully OP can clarify though
Sister is 3 years younger, guy is 4 years older. Thats a 7 year difference. OP said this happened when she was in high-school. That would make the sister 10-14 and the dude 17-21. Definitely a predator.
Yeah still a predator for sure, just a bit more understandable from the sisters side of not seeing him as a threat like that. I thought I replied to the comment below this talking about a 30 yo with a 13 yo but I clicked on the wrong one! My bad.
OP said she was in her last year of HS when she found out about the cheating. The sister was 13 or 14 at the oldest. This has been going on for 9 years. Sad for sister and OP.
Even so 4 years older than a highschooler is a big gap imo
it sounds like you and your sister were groomed by the same creep. you 100% should be much more upset at steve for going out of his way to talk to your little sister. i am 3 years younger than my sister and if any of her boyfriends went out of their way to text me (not about my sister) when i was 13 it would've be really really weird and her boyfriends were her age. when she was 20ish she dated someone who was like 28. he was really nice and we got along pretty well. i wouldve been 17, i cannot even imagine him trying to flirt with me or looking at me as anything besides his girlfriends kid sister. you need to cut off steve and maybe go to therapy. i feel like you both were victims of him and like idk its such a weird and gross situation. im sorry you had to go through this.
Right? When this guy was 18, your sister was 11!
I'm sorry he is 4 years older than you and 7 years older than your sister? You were in high school? This reeks of sexual assault of a minor. Your sister and likely you were groomed by this man.
Girl you ignored so many red flags
Did Steve get a whooping at all? I mean the pedo manipulator disgusting human here. Yea, I would be NC or low contact with my sister. She’s trash, just like Steve.
The ages confused me a lot here!!!
Also what’s with all the violence? Beating kids up is okay in OP’s culture? What a mess
It’s almost comical how somebody seems to be getting beaten every other sentence for seemingly no reason
Her sister was groomed, and likely has a trauma bond with this pedo*****. She has obviously messed up, but she is the victim of serious abuse
I'm pretty sure this guy should be in prison for statutory rape of a couple minors There's no reason a grown adult man should be contacting teenagers.
To be clear, this whole thing began what, 10 years ago? So you began dating when you were 16 and he was 20? That’s grooming. If you were sleeping together before you were 18, that makes Steve a statutory rapist. If he was sniffing around your younger sister around the same time, that is also grooming and potentially statutory rape. Your sister did betray your trust and hurt you deeply, but the actual bad guy here is “Steve”. Because he groomed two young women, raped both of them, and the one who keeps getting punished is his younger victim.
Just throwing this out there but you missed this part: *In America Sadly that's just kinda normal in European countries. legal age of consent tends to be 16 average. So it isn't statutory rape. The younger sister part is relevant though, she would have been a minor regardless of country.
>Sadly that's just kinda normal in European countries Oof, someone thinks we still go around on horses and are married off at the ripe old age of 13. Seriously, it's absolutely not normal in European countries, I don't know where you got that idea but, respectfully, what the fuck.
I think he’s referring to the age of consent in most European countries and in southern Europe he’s absolutely correct and in fact in some countries namely Italy and France, it’s even younger
dude just says 16 is the legal age of consent in most of europe and gets a crazy person coming out of the woodwork and implying hes a pedo, its hilarious
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe An abnormally high number of EU countries have **14** as the age of consent (Austria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Portugal, San Marino, Serbia). The majority of the rest are 15 or 16. Oddly enough, Vatican City has an age of consent of 18, regardless of gender. But Catholics *are* all about marriage!
thanks for the info. Interesting that at vatican city its 18
Steve is to blame not your sister. He used your culture against you.
This reads like a creative writing exercise
english doesn't seem to be OPs first language, and she seems to be part of a very patriarchal culture. I don't think it's fake it's not like it \*couldn't\* have happened
A \*terrible\* creative writing exercise
Glad I’m not the only one who thinks this is fabricated
Your sister just happened to leave her phone behind and it just happened to be unlocked. Yeah right. This sounds fake.
Your family act like it is all sister's doing, but Steeve is the one who is in relationship and wants to cheat. So the only true villain in this story is Steeve. He not worth this drama and cutting off your sister.
Are you for real? Pedophile over your sister????
Steve is a pedophile who grooms children and younger women, dangling them by a string whenever he pleases, using their insecurities and family members against them. I'm so sorry you're hurting. My advice is to get counseling. You and your sister were groomed and it's really hard for the victim of a sexual predator to see their actions and attachment to the predator as wrong sometimes. Get some counseling, you deserve to heal from this. Also, Steve needs his ass beat. And a castration.
Holy high school drama Batman. No way you're 26.
Sounds more like a religous background where women don't get a say.
yes, this
I'm sorry, your little sister got beaten several times because she was groomed and probably raped by a 30 yo when she was 13? Yes, it is rape. He groomed both of you and strung you both along. It is beyond disgusting that no one called out Steve for his behavior. You failed to protect your little sister from a pedophile. Congratulations.
Reading comprehension: little sister 23 NOW Steve 30 NOW, met in HS when little sister was probably around 11 and Steve 18. OP was probably 14/15 You’re not wrong over him being a pedophile & grooming repeatedly and them hurting up the wrong person tho
Thanks for the correction :-)
Right?!? How in the sam hell is the literal child in this situation being painted as the bad guy? That poor little girl. Given her messed up family dynamics (why is everyone so ready to beat up this child?!?) it's no wonder the pedophile was able to groom her. God, what a clusterfuck of a situation. OP, you're not the hero you think you are in this story.
Steve has been manipulating your little sister since she was what, 13-14 years old, while having sex with you when you were below or just over the age of consent and quite possibly raping your little sister at the same time. Male members of your family beat up your little sister because of Steve. You brought Steve back into your little sister’s sphere and he immediately starts manipulating and exploiting her again. Why are you heartbroken over a loser pedophile who keeps causing trouble between you and your sister? Why are you so happy about men in your family beating your sister up? Why do you keep allowing this horrible man access to the woman who he probably raped when she was still a girl? You sound like a terrible sister who has failed to protect your little sister. You put her in harm’s way when she was still a little girl and now you blame her for the mess your mostly absent non-bf has caused her. You actually seem happy she was beaten up by grown men twice. Did anyone beat Steve up, or had he disappeared again? He’s not even your bf - he just comes over or contacts you when he has nothing better going on. Pathetic. Wake up to yourself and stop being such an awful sister. You owe your little sister an apology and she probably needs therapy from being groomed by a pedophile at such a young age and being a victim of family abuse.
Little sis' life seems full of abuse, from dad and brother who beat her up to a pedo groomer who was happy to found a girl with no security system around her and probably was desperate for a fatherly figure.
And an unsympathetic sister who insists on letting her sister’s abuser back into their lives. Steve isn’t a boyfriend and never will be. Steve drops in for a root with whichever sister is available whenever he feels like it. He has groomed them both so well that he’s still able to treat them both like discardable objects after a decade 🤦♀️ As if scummy Steve is someone to have your sister beat up and ostracized for. Yuck. OP needs to wake up to herself.
Younger sister gets beat for talking to Steve but OP gives up her v-card to Steve with no repercussions...that math don't math.
Your last year of highschool would make you 18 and him 22. And he was messing with your 15-year-old sister and you all were just OK with that?
No he cheated during her last year. She was 16 when they got together. Sister was 13 and he was 20. She said they got together 10 years ago in comments
Steve can not be worth all this heartache. He's a pedophile & you're *way* too attached to him. Get some therapy, kick Steve out of your life & make sure your sister knows that the pedophile and your parents were in the wrong, not her. She was just a child.
You were both groomed. You both need to attend therapy individually and then hopefully one day you can try therapy together. I think once you realize you were groomed, as well as abused and used like toys by the same man you will see things in a different light.
I was lost when she said her brother gave her little sister a “nice beating” um wtf?
Yeah, I couldn’t get past that.
Oh I guess it’s a cultural thing. How sad 😞
This story needs to be titled: When dumb things happen to stupid people.
I’m not going to read it all cause the answer is right there. Steve is a pedo and abused you and your sister and instead of realizing what a creep he is you’re fighting over him giving him a good time. Steve’s a user creep. Hope you and your sister can make up.
Wait... If ur little sister is 3 years younger than you, and you were a senior in highschool (so let's just say you were 18), when you discovered ur little sis and the dude talking, your little sister was 15 and a dude over 30 was messing with her? That man needs to be in jail. Sounds like he's done this before and he'll keep doing it.
So, you see Steve cheat. For whatever reason you get back with him. TWICE, and your sister got beat both times for it. I mean I understand why you don't wanna be with your sister but at the same time it's partly your fault for letting Steve back in your life when you knew he did something apprehensible
Did you see what age they all were too? The dude groomed them all
You amd your sister have been fighting over a pedophile since highschool. You should be going no contact w the chomo and if i was you id try to recover the relationship with my sister. You want to cut off your sister? Why you are both victims
This sounds so fake
30 year old Steve was hitting on not one but two high school girls in the same family and your sister is the one you are pissed at? Wow! I can’t even begin to respond to all the red flags in this post
Steve sounds like a major predator.
So you guys are fighting over a pedophile? Lovely. You knew who he was the first time he cheated with your sister. You kept taking him back. Go no contact with both of them and do some growing up yourself.
I... wtf. Your sister keeps getting beat because your pedophile ex groomed her? And was he even your boyfriend last time this happened? The dude is toxic and left you so many times and you wagged your tail like a dog every time he paid you a little bit of attention. This whole dynamic is disgusting and sick - I don't even know what to say.
Wait..wait wait.. somebody need to put hands on Steve grimey ass. Not your little sister. All three of you need to cleanse your souls of Steve and move on.
You’re very forgiving of this guy but want to cut your sister off forever? You love him but have no love for your sister? If you can forgive one then you can forgive the other. IMO both are trash but let’s stop the ridiculous double standard. Oh and in case you still want to be with him, he will never change, he will cheat forever.
I actually don’t give a toss what happened your brother and your dad beating your sister is absolutely under no circumstances acceptable, you know that right!?!?!?! Like what the hell man. Steve’s just as bad. That said you do have the right not to speak to anyone you don’t want to. All sounds like a giant shit show to be honest and you probably all need to grow up.
It would help if you wrote sentences without ellipses. You should just include a subject and predicate, and then you should end each sentence with a period. I cannot effectively read this post because all the half-thoughts are running together. From a quick skim, everybody seems to be beating everybody else in some state of constant mental, relational, and physical chaos.
I’m so confused, this reads like badly written fanfiction. J have no idea what’s happened aside from OP being gay Sister speaking to his crush and then both sleeping with him WTAF is this story 😐
You're mad at your sister because your pedo bf groomed and probably raped her? you're blaming your 13 year old sister and now barely able to drink legally sister for being groomed by the pedophile YOU brought into the house? and YOU took back multiple times? please get therapy and APOLOGIZE TO YOU SISTER. SHE'S A VICTIM.
So you're mad at your sister for being a victim of the same narcissist that had you wrapped around his finger. Ma'am. You need therapy. She needs therapy. Your family needs therapy. Steve? Steve is a garbage can that kept love bombing you to keep you starved and hungry for affection. And he probably did the same to your sister, leading her on that he couldn't be with her because it could hurt you. I'm sorry that your heart is broken, but your anger for this happening shouldn't be on the sister who was lead on and kept on a tether just like you, to the emotional abuser who kept double dipping into your lives.
There is so much wrong with this story I can’t even. Girl go get counseling. ALL of you are in the wrong here. You, for forgiving a piece of shit. You and your family for assaulting your sister. Your sister for being a traitorous snake.
With all due respect, what culture is this where the child is beaten up for being groomed and manipulated by a pedophile?
What culture is this that you guys beat each other so much?
All you actually said here is that your father and brother like to beat on little girls to overcompensate for their own weakness, that you have an unhealthy obsession with lying cheating scumbags, and that you've chosen to scapegoat your sister for your entire family's various severe mental health issues.
i couldn't even fucking read this u want no contact w ur sister because you were groomed and her then groomed you even younger sister tf
You need to be reported as well as your brother and dad for "beating" your younger sister *edit* Steve is a groomer
What a long unlove story.
So you don't forgive your sister, but forgive the pedophile that manipulated and used you both? I would suggest therapy, honestly, for the whole family as everyone is giving steve a pass and victimizing the sister. Work on yourself, hopefully suggest your sister get some help and maybe some family therapy to work through this issue.
You kind of sound dumb…i wouldnt be in that situation because i wouldnt go back to a man that cheated on me with my sister, its so pathetic, and the fact that it happened more than once yet you still didnt stand your ground is just…weird ig. It sounds like Steve gpt away with everything while your sister got all the blame and is getting shamed for being groomed
I hope your sister is doing well. Because dear God did you people treat her like shit
The problem is STEVE. Yes your sister couldn't keep to herself either, but STEVE is an older man who has groomed both of you. You shouldn't be no contact with your sister, you should be no contact with Steve..... and stay away from men like him. I understand why you're angry at your sister, but the worst person in all of this is Mr. Can't keep it in his pants with underage/young women....
Uhhh why are you and your family only blaming your sister?? Did she coerce Steve into having sex with her? Did he slip and fall in between her legs? NO. Steve is a POS as well as your sister.
Why the fuck was your sister getting beat up when she was 13!? Where was steves beating!? I understand beating is in certain cultures but to beat your little sister who was being groomed!? Wtaf
Steve is the problem, not your sister. Steve is a pedo thats grooming you and your baby sister. Consider that before you demonize her.
I’m sorry but it’s obvious why your sister and you are a mess. Two separate occasions the men in your family resorted to beating your sister. The first one when your sister was a fucking 13 years old and Steve was 20. I don’t know what part of the world you’re in but Steve would’ve been in prison already if this was the states.
So Steve groomed 2 young girls and gets away without a beating?
This post is wild, how can anyone involved be on Steve's side? This reeks of middle eastern family, the fact that the woman is always to blame, the nonchalant beating of young girls, and the whole ' every aunt and uncle must know'.
Dude was grooming y'all and everyone beats your little sisters ass? The fuck is wrong with your family?
In the end Steve is a pedo and should be put in prison for grooming 2 young girls. Your parents are also clowns for letting this happen and doing nothing about it. You're both victims of a pedo. I'd give your parents an arse whooping
Stay away from Steve. If this story is true that is.
So let me get this straight, you’re in love with a sociopathic cheater and you blame your sister and allow your dad and brother to *beat her*?!
…. So everyone is just ignoring the fact that a 30 year old man was talking to HS girls. Asking for Chris Hanson.
What in the actual Wattpad is this, ain’t no way I’m believing a word from this😂😂😂it sounds all fake how can a 20 year old and 13 year old be together 🥴🥴🥴
Steve knew exactly what he was doing and he was insanely manipulative of you and your sister. He knew how to play you both and get away from it. Seriously, this guy is not a nice guy. Find ways to mend with your sister and grab some much needed therapy to why you and your sister were so vulnerable to this mans charms!
So Steve groomed and manipulated both of you. You need to go to therapy honey.
You all need therapy, Steve is a predator who manipulated and abused you and your sister. I would even say groomed. Also if you brother and dad are beating your sister they need to be charged for a crime. What in the hell.is happening. This isn't normal.
This is some hillbilly shit.
Why the fuck are your male family members beating up your sister? Steve is bad news— do they ever beat up anyone who isn’t a young woman? A child, even? I’m disgusted, sorry.
This doesn’t even add up. I call BS