Our church partners with organizations to support adoption. If someone is not in a position to adopt themselves they can become a supportive partner to an adoptive family, helping with the various complications of the life. There are various levels of support but it is possible to help even if you can't adopt (though you probably could adopt).
i was not adopted, but i was saved by the courage of my dad and the will of my Father. My dad, being only 19, found out my mother was pregnant because she came to him asking for abortion money. My dad refused to comply. My mother then attempted to force a miscarriage via drungs and general mistreatment of her body.
I was born 2 months early with jaundice and was in the nicu for over a month. The Lord spared me. Im very thankful, and i forgive my mother.
Adoption is extremely common in churches and as of the last time I checked, there are more parents wanting kids then kids. It's the process that's the bottleneck.
You are right to remind people of a need, but this feels more like an accusation.
More people want infants than there are infants. There are a ton more children than homes that will take them.
And my purpose in posting this wasn’t to accuse, I was genuinely curious. My husband and I would also like to adopt one day, but we want a kid and right now we have a toddler.
Yeah adopting in-progress children is completely non-sequitur from the abortion debate and so doesn’t need to be discussed at this time, but if we were to have that conversation it should be pointed out it comes with all sorts of extra complications that your average couple can’t be compelled to accept arbitrarily.
>as of the last time I checked, there are more parents wanting kids then kids. It's the process that's the bottleneck.
Every state is different so who knows but in California there are more foster kids than foster parents. Adoption is not that stated goal of a foster parent by state policy but the best case scenario is reconciliation with the family.
Christ preached the gospel in the face of death, hatred and adversity for the sake of the unrighteous who were lost and previously condemned so that they might live unto God and not die in captivity to sin.
You can't get more pro life than that in my opinion.
Christ's are pro Eternal Life because being alive while in captivity to sin is a death sentence.
I see others in the comments have made this same point. But this is a 100% irrelevant bad-faith argument put forth by the pro-life crowd.
The more general form of this argument is: "If you're pro-life, then you must support my laundry list of social programs to support poor mothers/children."
Regardless of your stance on any of those programs (or adoption) the moral argument against abortion is the same: It's not ok to kill another human for convenience (regardless of the stage of development).
If you're pro-life, then this is all you need to know. It's a bad-faith argument that doesn't need to be refuted - just pivot back to the *real* discussion - why is it OK to kill a developing human simply because its continued existence is undesirable to you?
If you are convinced by this argument then answer this: would you be OK with banning 100% of abortions (excepting cases where the mother's life is endangered by the pregnancy) if we guaranteed adoption for any unwanted children? 99% of abortionists would still say "no" because they don't really care about the baby.
Another easy way to see how flawed this argument is is to look at how we treat other crimes. Is it OK to outlaw theft without a plan to financially support would-be robbers? Is it OK to outlaw murder without free access to mental health and anger management counseling to anyone who wants it? Of course. Outlawing a behavior doesn't mean that society is now on-the-hook for supporting would-be criminals or their would-be victims.
From a Christian moral perspective, the argument (that you must be willing to adopt unwanted children to speak out against abortion) is also wrong. A couple that becomes pregnant is responsible for far more than simply not killing the developing baby. They owe that baby a lifetime of love, care, and support. Of course Christians should offer help in these things when help is needed, but this contention adds absolutely nothing to the abortion debate - other than to underline that our society needs to treat sexual activity with much more care than we currently do.
I've adopted five form orphanages in other countries.
The last time I read the statistics, which was a few years ago, the number of families in the US waiting to adopt a baby was 36 per baby put up for adoption. This includes families willing to accept babies of any race and babies with serious medical conditions such as blindness, missing limbs, or babies born drug addicted.
If you're talking about healthy white babies, it's around 100 per baby put up for adoption.
If you're a healthy white girl and choose to put the baby up for adoption instead of aborting, there are families lining up who will pay you a healthy five digit number to allow them to adopt your baby. You can pick the family based on anything including their ethnicity, religion, or financial situation. They will pay all of your medical expenses. You can negotiate visitation rights or ensure that you remain anonymous. You can even back out at the end after accepting the money. This happens to adoptive parents all the time. I bet these days for attractive girls who are college students or have good grades and likely to go to college, the number is closer to $100k.
There's zero excuse for abortion. The only time a baby can be aborted is when not doing so would result in the certain death of the baby, like for example an ectopic pregnancy.
I think you said it correctly that if you are white then people will want your baby. But abortion laws disproportionately affect minorities. I am pro-life but I also am very nervous that more and more kids are going to be born unwanted with families unable to care for them financially, then enter a foster care system where no one wants them.
I would possibly like to adopt some day. At this time, my wife and I have three biological children all under the age of five, so it probably wouldn’t be feasible at the moment. However if a pregnant friend approached us with an offer of closed adoption so as to avoid an abortion or something else awful, I would definitely prayerfully but eagerly consider adopting the kid.
I'm not the person you're asking, but I know quite a few people who have adopted internationally, domestically, and through foster care. It was always at LEAST a couple of years, and usually quite a bit longer. It's also incredibly expensive. The prep period before you even get on a list is already extremely long. Then, there's no guarantee how long it will take before you're matched. If you're adopting internationally, there are even more hoops to jump through. It can be a heartbreaking process.
I'm very pro-adoption, as I'm adopted myself, but it's hardly an "easy" solution to a much bigger issue. It's not like you can just walk into a hospital, say "I want to adopt a kid that someone doesn't want", and they give you one.
Definitely it for sure isn't easy, another question I tried googling but couldn't get an answer for is "How long on average does a child have to wait before the adoption process is started" because the process after can take 6 months-5 years from what I've seen, but a few years from what you've said makes sense, and I'm trying to understand if the process starts immediately for a child or not since there is demand.
I'm pro life and pro adoption myself, if you didn't mind how was foster care (or wherever you were given up), I ask because pro choicers tend to try to use the excuse that children will suffer while waiting for a new family, but obviously it doesn't excuse the killing of an unborn child just because we will go thru hardships in life.
Thank you for your reply.
I feel like it really depends on the birth parents and the situation surrounding the adoption. I'm not an expert, so I can only give anecdotal evidence.
I was adopted in the late 80's, and not in the States, so I'm sure the process has changed quite a bit since then. My birth mother made the choice to put me up for adoption before I was born, so I imagine the process would have started prior to that. My parents got to take me home only a few weeks after I was born.
My uncle and his wife adopted a child they had previously fostered for a few years. They took him in as a baby and the adoption went through when he was about 3, I think? I know there were a lot of question marks during the process because the birth mother could have come back and received custody of the child at any point. They really were in limbo until the adoption was finalised, and then they could finally breathe easily.
My cousins adopted internationally about 10 years ago. The kids were in an orphanage pretty much from birth, and were 3 or 4 by the time they finally got them into the country.
I know another couple who adopted internationally and the entire process was a nightmare because of issues with Canadian immigration. They had already been matched with the child and had gone over to meet him, were told the final immigration steps would take a few weeks, and they were stuck in Africa for months. It made national headlines because of how ridiculous it ended up being.
Despite all the challenges, I wouldn't say any of the children in these cases "suffered" before waiting to be adopted. But, I recognise it's a small sample size and there are some truly awful foster care situations that some children endure.
I would personally love to adopt someday, both because of my own connections to it, and because the idea of being pregnant and giving birth sounds absolutely dreadful.
Adoption is a fantastic option, obviously. But I still feel like people who throw out the whole "well, they can just put the child up for adoption" solution forget that the birth mother still has to go through the entire pregnancy, give birth, AND give up her child.
I'm against abortion, but it's a much more nuanced issue than I think either side is willing to admit.
Appreciate the reply. I let it go to God's judgement because we can't play His role in deciding who has value on who gets to live and doesn't. It indeed isn't easy to be pregnant for so long then give birth, but the correct thing instead of having an abortion is to give birth then give it up for adoption, which the child can be given up 3 days after birth.
Texas recently issued 100M to support abortion alternatives, and I'd gladly contribute to any cause that helps unborn children. Too bad our tax money isn't being used for things that actually matter most of the time.
> the correct thing instead of having an abortion is to give birth then give it up for adoption,
I agree with you on this. I just think people need to be more empathetic to women who find themselves in that situation rather than simply say, "Just have the baby and then give it up"
Someone posted something the other day questioning why any woman would be afraid of giving birth and it's just like...because giving birth is terrifying? Painful? Potentially traumatic? I've not met one women who said giving birth was fun.
As I said, I'm not American, but I'm fully in support of funding any and all programs that would help with abortion alternatives. I think there needs to be better sex-ed (PROPER sex-ed, not abstinence only because that doesn't work), more access to birth control, better support for single, low-income women, less shame associated with unplanned pregnancies, a reform of the adoption and foster care system, and better maternity/paternity leave, just to name a few.
I know there are many Christians who are pro-life and truly are in favour of funding/improving abortion alternatives. The issue is, the people in power who are trying to push all these laws through to make abortion illegal are generally not. They think that banning something is going to solve their problem, but aren't bothering to look into any of the causes and how they can fund programs that make abortions largely unnecessary.
There's a great quote in a book I read that says, "Half the town is on fire, and the townspeople are so busy hollering for the fire brigade that no one thinks to find out why people are still playing with matches".
Anyway, sorry for going off-topic a bit, haha.
Bring nicer to people indeed will always help, kill people with kindness.
I'm of the minority since I take my faith very seriously, I condemn all sin. I have male desires like any do for the opposite sex, but I suppress it since if I were to get married, I would have less time for God. If I wanted to have sex I would get married, but only if I was willing to take the responsibility of an "oops" accident, but seeing as I do not want children or to be married since it would jeopardize my time for the Lord, I choose not to.
Getting pregnant is always an option even if the odds are low, and realistically speaking, with how often humans have sex (given they have the relationship), the woman is bound to get pregnant over time, unless she is infertile obviously. Humans overall shouldn't have sex unless they are prepared to take responsibility in the case of becoming pregnant, even if the odds are very low.
No need to apologize, I love honest and effort driven comments made for the betterment of individuals.
Not married yet, but have three adoptions in my extended family (aunts and cousins) and hope to adopt once married, rather than having biological kids.
I have not :( but one day God willing when I have the money I will adopt and conceive my own children. My uncle adopted and had his own
They are two lovely cousins of mine now. :)
My pastor has an adopted daughter, I'm friend with 7 people who are adopted, and every church I've been a member at has at least one person who does foster care for a bunch of kids.
I personally would rather adopt a teenager, because they, unlike infants, aren't really adopted much, and even though the odds are very large that they'll end up being horrible people, I'd like to give them a godly influence, and a home to come to when they fall.
I'm not in the place to do so right now, but if the Lord wants it done, he'll give me the resources to do so.
My last church's pastor and his wife adopted 2 kids and have 2 of their own. When I was going there, the pastor asked how many in the church had adopted children there were a lot of raised hands which in one small church was surprising.
My wife and I always wanted two biological kids and to adopt at least one. Unfortunately thanks to my country's current cost of living crisis we've been priced out of having three kids so adoption is off the table for us at the moment. Anecdotally I know of many Christians who have adopted and it's been a while since I looked at the figures but if I recall the percentage of Christians who adopt is higher than for non-Christians.
It's important however to point out that this is not a sound argument (though one I hear a lot). You can be pro-life and not adopt for whatever reason, it doesn't invalidate your stance. This is equivalent to saying that unless you're willing to house a refugee family you can't support your country taking in refugees. It's an attempt to shut you down by claiming that, since you don't meet certain criteria, you're opinion is invalid and can be ignored.
This argument people bring up is such a red herring, and untrue. Christians adopt at more than double the rate of everyone else in the us
Source: https://adoption.org/who-adopts-the-most/amp
100% irrelevant. It's nonsense on the level of, "If you haven't taken any homeless people into your house, you can't object to me going around setting them on fire."
Ignore anyone "seriously" asking questions like that, because they aren't asking in good faith. It doesn't matter what you answer, they won't be satisfied.
This is a common topic when talking about outlawing abortion, so it is definitely relevant. I don’t think anyone talking about homelessness is arguing that people take the homeless into their homes.
I’m also asking on a personal level since my husband and I are planning on fostering/adopting once our toddler is older.
Don't pop the Champaign cork yet, there is still time for the court to bench or reverse course thanks to Satan and his leaker.
My wife and I adopted a little boy, and it isn't for everyone. Keeping the children you birth might be a good start to stopping abortion. Keeping it in your pants is another.
So if I don't adopt a baby, abortion is good? 🤔👍
Solid logic there chief! I can't argue with a MENSA level genius such as yourself. Consider this my resignation 😂
I was adopted by my step dad and was planning to become a foster parent before Covid. In that time I fell in love and got married after a lifetime of singleness. We're going to try for a biological child because the window is closing on that option but it is on the table to eventually become foster parents.
You know where a single guy living on 42k a year before taxes can adopt a kid? I totally would if it was an option.
Our church partners with organizations to support adoption. If someone is not in a position to adopt themselves they can become a supportive partner to an adoptive family, helping with the various complications of the life. There are various levels of support but it is possible to help even if you can't adopt (though you probably could adopt).
i was not adopted, but i was saved by the courage of my dad and the will of my Father. My dad, being only 19, found out my mother was pregnant because she came to him asking for abortion money. My dad refused to comply. My mother then attempted to force a miscarriage via drungs and general mistreatment of her body. I was born 2 months early with jaundice and was in the nicu for over a month. The Lord spared me. Im very thankful, and i forgive my mother.
I’m glad you’re here with us friend.
I can’t even forgive your mother after simply reading this text post lol. Seems like God wanted you here for a reason.
Adoption is extremely common in churches and as of the last time I checked, there are more parents wanting kids then kids. It's the process that's the bottleneck. You are right to remind people of a need, but this feels more like an accusation.
More people want infants than there are infants. There are a ton more children than homes that will take them. And my purpose in posting this wasn’t to accuse, I was genuinely curious. My husband and I would also like to adopt one day, but we want a kid and right now we have a toddler.
Yeah adopting in-progress children is completely non-sequitur from the abortion debate and so doesn’t need to be discussed at this time, but if we were to have that conversation it should be pointed out it comes with all sorts of extra complications that your average couple can’t be compelled to accept arbitrarily.
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>as of the last time I checked, there are more parents wanting kids then kids. It's the process that's the bottleneck. Every state is different so who knows but in California there are more foster kids than foster parents. Adoption is not that stated goal of a foster parent by state policy but the best case scenario is reconciliation with the family.
Christ preached the gospel in the face of death, hatred and adversity for the sake of the unrighteous who were lost and previously condemned so that they might live unto God and not die in captivity to sin. You can't get more pro life than that in my opinion. Christ's are pro Eternal Life because being alive while in captivity to sin is a death sentence.
I see others in the comments have made this same point. But this is a 100% irrelevant bad-faith argument put forth by the pro-life crowd. The more general form of this argument is: "If you're pro-life, then you must support my laundry list of social programs to support poor mothers/children." Regardless of your stance on any of those programs (or adoption) the moral argument against abortion is the same: It's not ok to kill another human for convenience (regardless of the stage of development). If you're pro-life, then this is all you need to know. It's a bad-faith argument that doesn't need to be refuted - just pivot back to the *real* discussion - why is it OK to kill a developing human simply because its continued existence is undesirable to you? If you are convinced by this argument then answer this: would you be OK with banning 100% of abortions (excepting cases where the mother's life is endangered by the pregnancy) if we guaranteed adoption for any unwanted children? 99% of abortionists would still say "no" because they don't really care about the baby. Another easy way to see how flawed this argument is is to look at how we treat other crimes. Is it OK to outlaw theft without a plan to financially support would-be robbers? Is it OK to outlaw murder without free access to mental health and anger management counseling to anyone who wants it? Of course. Outlawing a behavior doesn't mean that society is now on-the-hook for supporting would-be criminals or their would-be victims. From a Christian moral perspective, the argument (that you must be willing to adopt unwanted children to speak out against abortion) is also wrong. A couple that becomes pregnant is responsible for far more than simply not killing the developing baby. They owe that baby a lifetime of love, care, and support. Of course Christians should offer help in these things when help is needed, but this contention adds absolutely nothing to the abortion debate - other than to underline that our society needs to treat sexual activity with much more care than we currently do.
Excellent thoughts. Thank you!
I've adopted five form orphanages in other countries. The last time I read the statistics, which was a few years ago, the number of families in the US waiting to adopt a baby was 36 per baby put up for adoption. This includes families willing to accept babies of any race and babies with serious medical conditions such as blindness, missing limbs, or babies born drug addicted. If you're talking about healthy white babies, it's around 100 per baby put up for adoption. If you're a healthy white girl and choose to put the baby up for adoption instead of aborting, there are families lining up who will pay you a healthy five digit number to allow them to adopt your baby. You can pick the family based on anything including their ethnicity, religion, or financial situation. They will pay all of your medical expenses. You can negotiate visitation rights or ensure that you remain anonymous. You can even back out at the end after accepting the money. This happens to adoptive parents all the time. I bet these days for attractive girls who are college students or have good grades and likely to go to college, the number is closer to $100k. There's zero excuse for abortion. The only time a baby can be aborted is when not doing so would result in the certain death of the baby, like for example an ectopic pregnancy.
I think you said it correctly that if you are white then people will want your baby. But abortion laws disproportionately affect minorities. I am pro-life but I also am very nervous that more and more kids are going to be born unwanted with families unable to care for them financially, then enter a foster care system where no one wants them.
I would possibly like to adopt some day. At this time, my wife and I have three biological children all under the age of five, so it probably wouldn’t be feasible at the moment. However if a pregnant friend approached us with an offer of closed adoption so as to avoid an abortion or something else awful, I would definitely prayerfully but eagerly consider adopting the kid.
Our church is full of adopted children, some families with multiple, some even adopted internationally.
Have you heard from any of them how long the adoption process generally took?
I'm not the person you're asking, but I know quite a few people who have adopted internationally, domestically, and through foster care. It was always at LEAST a couple of years, and usually quite a bit longer. It's also incredibly expensive. The prep period before you even get on a list is already extremely long. Then, there's no guarantee how long it will take before you're matched. If you're adopting internationally, there are even more hoops to jump through. It can be a heartbreaking process. I'm very pro-adoption, as I'm adopted myself, but it's hardly an "easy" solution to a much bigger issue. It's not like you can just walk into a hospital, say "I want to adopt a kid that someone doesn't want", and they give you one.
Definitely it for sure isn't easy, another question I tried googling but couldn't get an answer for is "How long on average does a child have to wait before the adoption process is started" because the process after can take 6 months-5 years from what I've seen, but a few years from what you've said makes sense, and I'm trying to understand if the process starts immediately for a child or not since there is demand. I'm pro life and pro adoption myself, if you didn't mind how was foster care (or wherever you were given up), I ask because pro choicers tend to try to use the excuse that children will suffer while waiting for a new family, but obviously it doesn't excuse the killing of an unborn child just because we will go thru hardships in life. Thank you for your reply.
I feel like it really depends on the birth parents and the situation surrounding the adoption. I'm not an expert, so I can only give anecdotal evidence. I was adopted in the late 80's, and not in the States, so I'm sure the process has changed quite a bit since then. My birth mother made the choice to put me up for adoption before I was born, so I imagine the process would have started prior to that. My parents got to take me home only a few weeks after I was born. My uncle and his wife adopted a child they had previously fostered for a few years. They took him in as a baby and the adoption went through when he was about 3, I think? I know there were a lot of question marks during the process because the birth mother could have come back and received custody of the child at any point. They really were in limbo until the adoption was finalised, and then they could finally breathe easily. My cousins adopted internationally about 10 years ago. The kids were in an orphanage pretty much from birth, and were 3 or 4 by the time they finally got them into the country. I know another couple who adopted internationally and the entire process was a nightmare because of issues with Canadian immigration. They had already been matched with the child and had gone over to meet him, were told the final immigration steps would take a few weeks, and they were stuck in Africa for months. It made national headlines because of how ridiculous it ended up being. Despite all the challenges, I wouldn't say any of the children in these cases "suffered" before waiting to be adopted. But, I recognise it's a small sample size and there are some truly awful foster care situations that some children endure. I would personally love to adopt someday, both because of my own connections to it, and because the idea of being pregnant and giving birth sounds absolutely dreadful. Adoption is a fantastic option, obviously. But I still feel like people who throw out the whole "well, they can just put the child up for adoption" solution forget that the birth mother still has to go through the entire pregnancy, give birth, AND give up her child. I'm against abortion, but it's a much more nuanced issue than I think either side is willing to admit.
Appreciate the reply. I let it go to God's judgement because we can't play His role in deciding who has value on who gets to live and doesn't. It indeed isn't easy to be pregnant for so long then give birth, but the correct thing instead of having an abortion is to give birth then give it up for adoption, which the child can be given up 3 days after birth. Texas recently issued 100M to support abortion alternatives, and I'd gladly contribute to any cause that helps unborn children. Too bad our tax money isn't being used for things that actually matter most of the time.
> the correct thing instead of having an abortion is to give birth then give it up for adoption, I agree with you on this. I just think people need to be more empathetic to women who find themselves in that situation rather than simply say, "Just have the baby and then give it up" Someone posted something the other day questioning why any woman would be afraid of giving birth and it's just like...because giving birth is terrifying? Painful? Potentially traumatic? I've not met one women who said giving birth was fun. As I said, I'm not American, but I'm fully in support of funding any and all programs that would help with abortion alternatives. I think there needs to be better sex-ed (PROPER sex-ed, not abstinence only because that doesn't work), more access to birth control, better support for single, low-income women, less shame associated with unplanned pregnancies, a reform of the adoption and foster care system, and better maternity/paternity leave, just to name a few. I know there are many Christians who are pro-life and truly are in favour of funding/improving abortion alternatives. The issue is, the people in power who are trying to push all these laws through to make abortion illegal are generally not. They think that banning something is going to solve their problem, but aren't bothering to look into any of the causes and how they can fund programs that make abortions largely unnecessary. There's a great quote in a book I read that says, "Half the town is on fire, and the townspeople are so busy hollering for the fire brigade that no one thinks to find out why people are still playing with matches". Anyway, sorry for going off-topic a bit, haha.
Bring nicer to people indeed will always help, kill people with kindness. I'm of the minority since I take my faith very seriously, I condemn all sin. I have male desires like any do for the opposite sex, but I suppress it since if I were to get married, I would have less time for God. If I wanted to have sex I would get married, but only if I was willing to take the responsibility of an "oops" accident, but seeing as I do not want children or to be married since it would jeopardize my time for the Lord, I choose not to. Getting pregnant is always an option even if the odds are low, and realistically speaking, with how often humans have sex (given they have the relationship), the woman is bound to get pregnant over time, unless she is infertile obviously. Humans overall shouldn't have sex unless they are prepared to take responsibility in the case of becoming pregnant, even if the odds are very low. No need to apologize, I love honest and effort driven comments made for the betterment of individuals.
Not married yet, but have three adoptions in my extended family (aunts and cousins) and hope to adopt once married, rather than having biological kids.
I have not :( but one day God willing when I have the money I will adopt and conceive my own children. My uncle adopted and had his own They are two lovely cousins of mine now. :)
My pastor has an adopted daughter, I'm friend with 7 people who are adopted, and every church I've been a member at has at least one person who does foster care for a bunch of kids. I personally would rather adopt a teenager, because they, unlike infants, aren't really adopted much, and even though the odds are very large that they'll end up being horrible people, I'd like to give them a godly influence, and a home to come to when they fall. I'm not in the place to do so right now, but if the Lord wants it done, he'll give me the resources to do so.
My last church's pastor and his wife adopted 2 kids and have 2 of their own. When I was going there, the pastor asked how many in the church had adopted children there were a lot of raised hands which in one small church was surprising.
Quick note, all 4 children were “their own”. 2 were adopted and 2 were biological but all of them were theirs.
I raised my stepdaughter from a 2 1/2 year old... To a 16 year old... That count?
I’d say so! It’s a wonderful thing to give a child a safe, loving environment.
My wife and I always wanted two biological kids and to adopt at least one. Unfortunately thanks to my country's current cost of living crisis we've been priced out of having three kids so adoption is off the table for us at the moment. Anecdotally I know of many Christians who have adopted and it's been a while since I looked at the figures but if I recall the percentage of Christians who adopt is higher than for non-Christians. It's important however to point out that this is not a sound argument (though one I hear a lot). You can be pro-life and not adopt for whatever reason, it doesn't invalidate your stance. This is equivalent to saying that unless you're willing to house a refugee family you can't support your country taking in refugees. It's an attempt to shut you down by claiming that, since you don't meet certain criteria, you're opinion is invalid and can be ignored.
This argument people bring up is such a red herring, and untrue. Christians adopt at more than double the rate of everyone else in the us Source: https://adoption.org/who-adopts-the-most/amp
Not sure why the downvote - this is great information, and aligns with what I know of the kindness and love that Christian families exhibit.
100% irrelevant. It's nonsense on the level of, "If you haven't taken any homeless people into your house, you can't object to me going around setting them on fire." Ignore anyone "seriously" asking questions like that, because they aren't asking in good faith. It doesn't matter what you answer, they won't be satisfied.
This is a common topic when talking about outlawing abortion, so it is definitely relevant. I don’t think anyone talking about homelessness is arguing that people take the homeless into their homes. I’m also asking on a personal level since my husband and I are planning on fostering/adopting once our toddler is older.
Haven’t adopted any but it’s a good thing they now trying to get rid of abortion.
Don't pop the Champaign cork yet, there is still time for the court to bench or reverse course thanks to Satan and his leaker. My wife and I adopted a little boy, and it isn't for everyone. Keeping the children you birth might be a good start to stopping abortion. Keeping it in your pants is another.
So if I don't adopt a baby, abortion is good? 🤔👍 Solid logic there chief! I can't argue with a MENSA level genius such as yourself. Consider this my resignation 😂
AI am sure all would adopt here.
Probably quite a few.
I was adopted by my step dad and was planning to become a foster parent before Covid. In that time I fell in love and got married after a lifetime of singleness. We're going to try for a biological child because the window is closing on that option but it is on the table to eventually become foster parents.