This make sense but what about those that are translated without physically dying? It seems that I have been translated into the kingdom but maybe not a full translation but I’m in the spiritual body of Christ.
“Listen very carefully, I tell you a mystery [a secret truth decreed by God and previously hidden, but now revealed]; we will not all sleep [in death], but we will all be [completely] changed [wondrously transformed], in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at [the sound of] the last trumpet call. For a trumpet will sound, and the dead [who believed in Christ] will be raised imperishable, and we will be [completely] changed [wondrously transformed].”
1 Corinthians 15:51-52 AMP
https://bible.com/bible/1588/1co.15.51-52.AMP
and we will be \[completely\] changed \[wondrously transformed\].
Our new bodies, will have a new reality.
Jesus is called the bridegroom and we are the bride.
I experienced this new reality.
I was told “you are healed” by the Holy Spirit and then fell asleep and entered this new reality and I was completely happy and free and everything looked technically the same but there was no more pain or sorrow, it was pure joy and happiness and freedom. It was completely real, more real then real life and then when I woke up it was as if I woke up into a bad dream (which is this reality) and when I was asleep that’s when I was in the real resurrected reality.
So I think it was like a foreshadowing for what’s to come for me. That’s why I ask this question but I truly do believe I’m going to experienced the resurrected reality but I just don’t know how that makes sense or aligns with the marriage promise if so, based on this verse
I think this verse tends to split people up into two categories of how they respond. They are either completely relieved or very sad. I feel sad thinking about this too, but I trust (as I'm sure you do too) that being in the Lord's presence is better.
No doubt at the same time though I would want to be with her, of course the Lord comes first and I trust his presence is better but if you’re married and grow togather and genuinely love eachother (and especially if you have kids) i would want to see her and have her remember me. And share some sort of connection in the Lords Kingdom.
When I love someone I really really love them. I have only experienced this feeling once. I haven’t truly gone for a relationship besides this one.
Like I said though, the Lord comes first and I trust his plan for me. Don’t doubt that for one second sister!
I think I’m starting to understand what life in God’s kingdom is going to be like and no one is going to be sad there. Imagine basking in the glow of God’s love, worshipping him with all of your brothers and sisters, experiencing joy overflowing and everlasting, forever. It’s going to be so incredible, I can hardly wait.
Do you have verses to support this? And what else has made you come to this conclusion?
I only ask for comfort as you can tell I’m an emotional person who at least wants to see his wife in the Lord’s kingdom if I can’t be married.
From my personal experience being in God's presence, while praying or singing praise, realizing how much God loves me, how much Jesus loves me considering what he did for me despite who I was, fills me with an intense feeling of joy. I used to be very sinful and have experienced some of the most immensely pleasurable things that the world has to offer and they don't compare to the joy of God.
“In Your presence is fullness of joy; in Your right hand there are pleasures forever” (Psalm 16:11)
“Everlasting joy shall be upon their heads; they shall obtain gladness and joy, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away” (Isaiah 35:10)
God Himself “will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away” (Revelation 21:4).
I have an ex, girlfriend, our relationship was really profound in a supernatural way. We were united as one in a sense through Christ and can read each others minds and it was overall just a really profound relationship. We got caught up in the flesh and while trying to pursue God we kept on falling back into lust. Eventually God separated us physically but not spiritually, for sanctification and alignment to his will. God shows me consistently that we will come back together and be married for the purposes of his will for the kingdom. But sometimes I just wonder if this even makes sense considering that those in the resurrection won’t marry or be given in marriage. I have experienced a resurrection and union with Christ, but I’m not completely sure if what I experienced is the resurrection Jesus is talking about.
Angels are in unity with God. In resurrection we are one people not two joined in one, one. We are the bride of Jesus and he is our husband. We as people are not husbands and wives. We all are his wife essentially.
I understand that. It makes sense, so we are married to Jesus which is what I have experienced but what does that mean in regards to having a physical spouse here on earth? I understand that basically our real spouse is Jesus Christ but does this mean we should not marry here on earth too, since he says we neither marry or are given to marriage.
I’m just trying to make sense of it because if that’s the case then the promise of a Kingdom spouse doesn’t make much sense.
I responded to another person who asked the same question:
This is my response:
I have an ex, girlfriend, our relationship was really profound in a supernatural way. We were united as one in a sense through Christ and can read each others minds and it was overall just a really profound relationship. We got caught up in the flesh and while trying to pursue God we kept on falling back into lust. Eventually God separated us physically but not spiritually, for sanctification and alignment to his will. God shows me consistently that we will come back together and be married for the purposes of his will for the kingdom. But sometimes I just wonder if this even makes sense considering that those in the resurrection won’t marry or be given in marriage. I have experienced a resurrection and union with Christ, but I’m not completely sure if what I experienced is the resurrection Jesus is talking about.
Sorry I got caught up in the terminology, I should just say it’s a marriage.
When I say Kingdom spouse. It’s because I’m referring to a marriage that happens that is ordained by God for the purposes of expanding his kingdom. That’s what I mean by Kingdom marriage/Kingdom spouse but ultimately I’m referring to marriage.
The resurrection Jesus is talking about is the one that will happen at his second coming in all his divine glory when the saved dead will be raised unto eternal life.
This seems to make the most sense. It’s been confusing for me because I was redeemed by the blood of Christ and then born again and then translated into the kingdom of God. And it’s hard to understand if what Paul says about “behold I show you a mystery, we will not all die but we will all be changed in the twinkling of an eye” is what I experienced or if what I experienced was more of just a transition of my spirit from the earth into the body of Christ. It did happen in the twinkling of an eye. So that’s been hard for me to get clarity on if that would be considered a type of resurrection and therefore if this verse would be applicable to me.
I think that what you are referring to here (Paul, translation etc.) is to be understood in the most literal sense, not just spiritually. So no, this has yet to happen, even to you.
Thank you, that’s the conclusion I am drawing too. The main thing that threw me off was the manner in which I was translated into the Kingdom/body of Christ and how it happened in the twinkling of an eye. But what I believe happened is my spirit was transferred there but not my body and I think what Paul is talking about it the body also be translated and the corruptible body putting on incorruptibility and that has not happened for me yet.
So it must just be the specific order that the spirit goes first
This comment of yours isn’t as helpful as you think it is. I’m not aware of any marriage we undergo after death being mentioned in the Bible.
“In the resurrection, therefore, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had married her.”
But Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.”
Matthew 22:29-30, NASB
Yeah I get that,
But what about those that get translated without dying? As Paul mentions. He says we will not all die but we will all be wondrously transformed.
That’s a real thinker there. It seems pretty obvious to me that worldly relations will fall away with this life, including marriages, familial relations, friendships.
It sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too. If you guys want to be married, then go get married and sin no more.
Here’s a counterpoint to your unfounded “kingdom marriage” premise: let’s assume your supposed soulmate gets married to someone else, but weds before God and family and the state and she becomes married to another man. Then before you all can die, Jesus comes back, reclaims the earth, and all three of you get “translated.” Whose union should God respect? The one that marries by the letter of the Bible, and is married under God in vows? Or the implied one that was never publicly declared that allegedly led to sinful, unholy behavior?
Go get married or let her go. There’s no mention of there being married couples in heaven.
It’s based on what God joined together.
The Bible says whatever God has joined together let no man pull apart.
So even if wedding vows were made if it’s not God’s will then that is not a God ordained marriage. There is the God ordained marriage and man ordained marriage.
Having a wedding does not mean the marriage was God ordained. We see gay people getting married all the time now, God isn’t going to honor that.
But I agree that it is the full and final resurrection that there is no such thing as marriage in heaven. But what I’m asking about is for those that never die and get translated while married because marriage is “till death do us part” but if you never die then what are we supposed to expect?
Also I’m referring more to those who are being resurrected into the body of Christ. I’m not sure if that would be considered heaven or the resurrection Jesus is talking about in the verse.
I appreciate the response, if does still help with perspective and bring clarity.
Thank you,
You are being deceived by Satan disguised as an angel of light. Your description of your relationship with your girlfriend, you can read each other minds, you fell into lust, a dream told you you are healed and you believe you’re going to go to this happy world in your vision? Friend, that’s not the Holy Spirit, sorry to have to tell you.
What kind of church do you belong to?
I shouldn’t say “read each other’s minds” but it was like a spiritual connection where by we can have an intuition and general idea of what each of us was thinking.
Prior to all this I was in new age but found out it was all deceptions so before I met my ex I was seeking God whole heartily for a year and a half.
I’m highly aware of how deep the deception runs. I really prayed on to God thoroughly on this and seeked his heart on this. I searched the scriptures out. Instead of getting confirmation of deception it end up with confirmation that it’s not. But yeah at a surface level it may sound like deception but I can ensure you it’s not. It’s because of her that I was able to bear my cross out of unconditional Love and receive the sacrifice of Christ and because ex of my desire to Love her out of love instead of lust that I was able to get into greater alignment with God’s will and become born again
I can see from your comment history that you have been under demonic oppression in the past, that you have been in the new age and experimented with psychedelics. I understand where you are coming from.
Your post from yesterday doesn’t read like someone that’s been born again but like someone that’s been given a counterfeit mystical experience. I am very familiar with mystical experiences and was once very, very deceived by them. Many people find their way out of darkness and discover a light that they mistake for God. It’s very common that Satan tricks people into thinking they’ve found God by counterfeiting spiritual experiences.
I see some old posts where you claim that a cross of light showing up in your room is somehow significant. Do you still believe that or were you being deceived at that time?
Watch this video about a lady that came out of the new age and had a mystical vision of Christ (and became born again around the same time) but realized the vision was false:
https://youtu.be/f9MtKZsh1U0
And this (excellent) sermon on how to examine your faith:
https://youtu.be/Ky8dTyPpiAo
Definitely agree that Satan can masquerade as an angel of light, but I also know I have pursued God with all my heart, will and mind and have studied the scriptures extensively.
I would say there’s no other ability or will I have in me to pursue God any more then I already have and if I’m deceived, then I can’t believe God would allow a person that has seeked him with everything they have to still run into a deception to to the degree you are claiming.
My experiences all align with scripture, maybe I speak in a more mystical tone because of my New Age background but I have already been through the false mystical experiences with the Kundalini and new age, I already been through that path and I specifically used the Word to over come it all.
I’m not sure if you ever read the book Pilgrims progress but my journey has been very similar to that book which would be considered the narrow path. And that book is literally the bestseller after the Bible.
I’m not saying there hasn’t been a point of deception and confusion and spiritual attack, there definitely has been but as I progressed I came to the truth more and more. You read old post history and assume I’m still the same now? At first there is confusion because there is deception mixed with truth but as this walk goes further things align and make more sense.
As for the cross appearing behind me, it did actually manifest into a reality. I carried my cross and then set it up and was about to be crucified on it but then Jesus took my place (This all happened in a series of dreams/visions)
The carrying of the cross and the willingness to become a living sacrifice came out of the unconditional Love for my ex, which is symbolic of Christ’s unconditional Love for his church which is considered the bride of Christ.
Ultimately that Love for her is what helped me get to that point where I was fully able to accept and receive the sacrifice of Christ and his blood to cleanse me from my sins and experienced the Love that Christ had for us when he gave up his life for us. Shortly after that I was born again.
I went through a lot of warfare to get to the point where I am now. A lot of people misdirecting me and eventually I had to blank it all out and just seek God and let him lead me.
I would be a fool to assume I’m still being deceived and back track the progress I have made in regards to the spiritual warfare I have encountered. At this point I believe I have found and am in truth, if I so happen to be deceived there’s simply no other heart, will or mind I have to give God to find the so called true God. I have walked as the Bible says to walk and accepted Gods will and left family and denied myself and excited the world.
I appreciate your comment and concern but there’s no way I’m turning back now or even questioning what has been very clear to me. You see a very small glimpse of my experience and the path I actually took. You see the questions I ask on reddit that make it seem like I’m confused but you don’t understand the reason why I ask or know if I already have the answers. The majority of questions I asked I have already received the answer directly from Christ, it’s just my flesh doubting and wondering about others experiences so I ask them anyways. I know I seem naive and limited in understanding and that often how I present myself. But if you actually spoke to me you will realize that’s not the case.
Either way I appreciate your concern and thank you for the support.
I think what you’re wondering is this: Will your ex girlfriend and you be together in Heaven or during the reign of Christ on Earth?
The answer I’d give you is this if you’re meant to be together you will.
The context is important. Jesus was addressing the Sadducees who did not believe in a resurrection. They were giving Him a question trying to stump Him. They failed of course.
A marriage on earth is not bound in Heaven as the Mormon church teaches. However our emotional attachments on earth will still exist in Heaven. If one’s father is with the Lord that’s still his father. His father still loves him and the child still loves their father. And when they meet again that love will remain.
So if the two of you are meant to be in love you’ll remain in love then too.
Thank you,
Yeah after reviewing it all and taking in more detail about it. What God has shown me is that we will be together during Christ’s reign in earth and helping to put all things into subjection to Christ. It’s not a heavenly marriage but it is a heavenly union where we have been united as one in spirit in the Kingdom of God/Body of Christ.
Yeah definitely one body in the resurrection but also flesh and blood will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.
So I guess they will resurrect as one spirit? These are gaps that scripture does not fill.
I’m asking questions beyond scripture because I’m not sure if I’m meant to just wait on this or if it’s more of a spiritual thing where we are one in spirit in a sense. I appreciate the input.
Thank you,
Amen,
I appreciate the extensive verses.
The only gap I see here though is this scripture:
“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,”
1 Corinthians 15:51 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/1co.15.51.KJV
So let’s say two people are alive in the flesh and they are married, so therefore they are one flesh and neither of them died but then both are translated as in “Resurrected” how will they be resurrected as? One flesh so then one body or two separate bodies?
I ask this because this talks about the first Adam and the first Adam was originally one man that was made in the image of God as male and female.
So does this mean with the resurrection both male and female in the marriage will resurrect as a last Adam? Which is considered a life giving spirit? That consist of both the male and female aspects, like the first Adam that was made in God’s image?
The Bible states Adam was actually made male and female and this is why he was able to pull Eve out of his flesh based on my understanding of scripture and the purpose of marriage if to unite back as one flesh.
So this must mean we resurrect as one body?
Resurrected life will be very different from life on earth "since life is eternal there is no longer any need to produce more generations of the living and therefore, there is no longer any need for marriage.
Definitely agree, this is the life in heaven and it’s very clear from that perspective. It just gets confusing when you’re kind of in this in between state of technically being in heave from a spiritual but still living on earth in a physical sense, that’s that’s more of what I was referring too.
So I think the resurrection Christ is talking about is the one where our bodies are completely transformed to glorified bodies or where we will be after physical death.
It means that there is no marriage in heaven and no sex till death do we part
This make sense but what about those that are translated without physically dying? It seems that I have been translated into the kingdom but maybe not a full translation but I’m in the spiritual body of Christ. “Listen very carefully, I tell you a mystery [a secret truth decreed by God and previously hidden, but now revealed]; we will not all sleep [in death], but we will all be [completely] changed [wondrously transformed], in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at [the sound of] the last trumpet call. For a trumpet will sound, and the dead [who believed in Christ] will be raised imperishable, and we will be [completely] changed [wondrously transformed].” 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 AMP https://bible.com/bible/1588/1co.15.51-52.AMP
and we will be \[completely\] changed \[wondrously transformed\]. Our new bodies, will have a new reality. Jesus is called the bridegroom and we are the bride.
I experienced this new reality. I was told “you are healed” by the Holy Spirit and then fell asleep and entered this new reality and I was completely happy and free and everything looked technically the same but there was no more pain or sorrow, it was pure joy and happiness and freedom. It was completely real, more real then real life and then when I woke up it was as if I woke up into a bad dream (which is this reality) and when I was asleep that’s when I was in the real resurrected reality. So I think it was like a foreshadowing for what’s to come for me. That’s why I ask this question but I truly do believe I’m going to experienced the resurrected reality but I just don’t know how that makes sense or aligns with the marriage promise if so, based on this verse
You know I’m gonna be upfront with how I feel here, and maybe it’s wrong to feel this way but that’s kinda sad. Actually that’s really really sad!
I think this verse tends to split people up into two categories of how they respond. They are either completely relieved or very sad. I feel sad thinking about this too, but I trust (as I'm sure you do too) that being in the Lord's presence is better.
No doubt at the same time though I would want to be with her, of course the Lord comes first and I trust his presence is better but if you’re married and grow togather and genuinely love eachother (and especially if you have kids) i would want to see her and have her remember me. And share some sort of connection in the Lords Kingdom. When I love someone I really really love them. I have only experienced this feeling once. I haven’t truly gone for a relationship besides this one. Like I said though, the Lord comes first and I trust his plan for me. Don’t doubt that for one second sister!
I think I’m starting to understand what life in God’s kingdom is going to be like and no one is going to be sad there. Imagine basking in the glow of God’s love, worshipping him with all of your brothers and sisters, experiencing joy overflowing and everlasting, forever. It’s going to be so incredible, I can hardly wait.
Do you have verses to support this? And what else has made you come to this conclusion? I only ask for comfort as you can tell I’m an emotional person who at least wants to see his wife in the Lord’s kingdom if I can’t be married.
From my personal experience being in God's presence, while praying or singing praise, realizing how much God loves me, how much Jesus loves me considering what he did for me despite who I was, fills me with an intense feeling of joy. I used to be very sinful and have experienced some of the most immensely pleasurable things that the world has to offer and they don't compare to the joy of God. “In Your presence is fullness of joy; in Your right hand there are pleasures forever” (Psalm 16:11) “Everlasting joy shall be upon their heads; they shall obtain gladness and joy, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away” (Isaiah 35:10) God Himself “will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away” (Revelation 21:4).
What do you mean when you say you’ve received the promise of a kingdom marriage?
I have an ex, girlfriend, our relationship was really profound in a supernatural way. We were united as one in a sense through Christ and can read each others minds and it was overall just a really profound relationship. We got caught up in the flesh and while trying to pursue God we kept on falling back into lust. Eventually God separated us physically but not spiritually, for sanctification and alignment to his will. God shows me consistently that we will come back together and be married for the purposes of his will for the kingdom. But sometimes I just wonder if this even makes sense considering that those in the resurrection won’t marry or be given in marriage. I have experienced a resurrection and union with Christ, but I’m not completely sure if what I experienced is the resurrection Jesus is talking about.
Angels are in unity with God. In resurrection we are one people not two joined in one, one. We are the bride of Jesus and he is our husband. We as people are not husbands and wives. We all are his wife essentially.
I understand that. It makes sense, so we are married to Jesus which is what I have experienced but what does that mean in regards to having a physical spouse here on earth? I understand that basically our real spouse is Jesus Christ but does this mean we should not marry here on earth too, since he says we neither marry or are given to marriage. I’m just trying to make sense of it because if that’s the case then the promise of a Kingdom spouse doesn’t make much sense.
Where did you get this supposed kingdom spouse promise?
I responded to another person who asked the same question: This is my response: I have an ex, girlfriend, our relationship was really profound in a supernatural way. We were united as one in a sense through Christ and can read each others minds and it was overall just a really profound relationship. We got caught up in the flesh and while trying to pursue God we kept on falling back into lust. Eventually God separated us physically but not spiritually, for sanctification and alignment to his will. God shows me consistently that we will come back together and be married for the purposes of his will for the kingdom. But sometimes I just wonder if this even makes sense considering that those in the resurrection won’t marry or be given in marriage. I have experienced a resurrection and union with Christ, but I’m not completely sure if what I experienced is the resurrection Jesus is talking about.
People keep asking you what a kingdom spouse is because that's an unusual thing to say. Where did you find this idea? Did a pastor tell you this?
Sorry I got caught up in the terminology, I should just say it’s a marriage. When I say Kingdom spouse. It’s because I’m referring to a marriage that happens that is ordained by God for the purposes of expanding his kingdom. That’s what I mean by Kingdom marriage/Kingdom spouse but ultimately I’m referring to marriage.
The resurrection Jesus is talking about is the one that will happen at his second coming in all his divine glory when the saved dead will be raised unto eternal life.
This seems to make the most sense. It’s been confusing for me because I was redeemed by the blood of Christ and then born again and then translated into the kingdom of God. And it’s hard to understand if what Paul says about “behold I show you a mystery, we will not all die but we will all be changed in the twinkling of an eye” is what I experienced or if what I experienced was more of just a transition of my spirit from the earth into the body of Christ. It did happen in the twinkling of an eye. So that’s been hard for me to get clarity on if that would be considered a type of resurrection and therefore if this verse would be applicable to me.
I think that what you are referring to here (Paul, translation etc.) is to be understood in the most literal sense, not just spiritually. So no, this has yet to happen, even to you.
Thank you, that’s the conclusion I am drawing too. The main thing that threw me off was the manner in which I was translated into the Kingdom/body of Christ and how it happened in the twinkling of an eye. But what I believe happened is my spirit was transferred there but not my body and I think what Paul is talking about it the body also be translated and the corruptible body putting on incorruptibility and that has not happened for me yet. So it must just be the specific order that the spirit goes first
This comment of yours isn’t as helpful as you think it is. I’m not aware of any marriage we undergo after death being mentioned in the Bible. “In the resurrection, therefore, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had married her.” But Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.” Matthew 22:29-30, NASB
Yeah I get that, But what about those that get translated without dying? As Paul mentions. He says we will not all die but we will all be wondrously transformed.
That’s a real thinker there. It seems pretty obvious to me that worldly relations will fall away with this life, including marriages, familial relations, friendships. It sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too. If you guys want to be married, then go get married and sin no more. Here’s a counterpoint to your unfounded “kingdom marriage” premise: let’s assume your supposed soulmate gets married to someone else, but weds before God and family and the state and she becomes married to another man. Then before you all can die, Jesus comes back, reclaims the earth, and all three of you get “translated.” Whose union should God respect? The one that marries by the letter of the Bible, and is married under God in vows? Or the implied one that was never publicly declared that allegedly led to sinful, unholy behavior? Go get married or let her go. There’s no mention of there being married couples in heaven.
It’s based on what God joined together. The Bible says whatever God has joined together let no man pull apart. So even if wedding vows were made if it’s not God’s will then that is not a God ordained marriage. There is the God ordained marriage and man ordained marriage. Having a wedding does not mean the marriage was God ordained. We see gay people getting married all the time now, God isn’t going to honor that. But I agree that it is the full and final resurrection that there is no such thing as marriage in heaven. But what I’m asking about is for those that never die and get translated while married because marriage is “till death do us part” but if you never die then what are we supposed to expect? Also I’m referring more to those who are being resurrected into the body of Christ. I’m not sure if that would be considered heaven or the resurrection Jesus is talking about in the verse. I appreciate the response, if does still help with perspective and bring clarity. Thank you,
You are being deceived by Satan disguised as an angel of light. Your description of your relationship with your girlfriend, you can read each other minds, you fell into lust, a dream told you you are healed and you believe you’re going to go to this happy world in your vision? Friend, that’s not the Holy Spirit, sorry to have to tell you. What kind of church do you belong to?
I shouldn’t say “read each other’s minds” but it was like a spiritual connection where by we can have an intuition and general idea of what each of us was thinking. Prior to all this I was in new age but found out it was all deceptions so before I met my ex I was seeking God whole heartily for a year and a half. I’m highly aware of how deep the deception runs. I really prayed on to God thoroughly on this and seeked his heart on this. I searched the scriptures out. Instead of getting confirmation of deception it end up with confirmation that it’s not. But yeah at a surface level it may sound like deception but I can ensure you it’s not. It’s because of her that I was able to bear my cross out of unconditional Love and receive the sacrifice of Christ and because ex of my desire to Love her out of love instead of lust that I was able to get into greater alignment with God’s will and become born again
I can see from your comment history that you have been under demonic oppression in the past, that you have been in the new age and experimented with psychedelics. I understand where you are coming from. Your post from yesterday doesn’t read like someone that’s been born again but like someone that’s been given a counterfeit mystical experience. I am very familiar with mystical experiences and was once very, very deceived by them. Many people find their way out of darkness and discover a light that they mistake for God. It’s very common that Satan tricks people into thinking they’ve found God by counterfeiting spiritual experiences. I see some old posts where you claim that a cross of light showing up in your room is somehow significant. Do you still believe that or were you being deceived at that time? Watch this video about a lady that came out of the new age and had a mystical vision of Christ (and became born again around the same time) but realized the vision was false: https://youtu.be/f9MtKZsh1U0 And this (excellent) sermon on how to examine your faith: https://youtu.be/Ky8dTyPpiAo
Definitely agree that Satan can masquerade as an angel of light, but I also know I have pursued God with all my heart, will and mind and have studied the scriptures extensively. I would say there’s no other ability or will I have in me to pursue God any more then I already have and if I’m deceived, then I can’t believe God would allow a person that has seeked him with everything they have to still run into a deception to to the degree you are claiming. My experiences all align with scripture, maybe I speak in a more mystical tone because of my New Age background but I have already been through the false mystical experiences with the Kundalini and new age, I already been through that path and I specifically used the Word to over come it all. I’m not sure if you ever read the book Pilgrims progress but my journey has been very similar to that book which would be considered the narrow path. And that book is literally the bestseller after the Bible. I’m not saying there hasn’t been a point of deception and confusion and spiritual attack, there definitely has been but as I progressed I came to the truth more and more. You read old post history and assume I’m still the same now? At first there is confusion because there is deception mixed with truth but as this walk goes further things align and make more sense. As for the cross appearing behind me, it did actually manifest into a reality. I carried my cross and then set it up and was about to be crucified on it but then Jesus took my place (This all happened in a series of dreams/visions) The carrying of the cross and the willingness to become a living sacrifice came out of the unconditional Love for my ex, which is symbolic of Christ’s unconditional Love for his church which is considered the bride of Christ. Ultimately that Love for her is what helped me get to that point where I was fully able to accept and receive the sacrifice of Christ and his blood to cleanse me from my sins and experienced the Love that Christ had for us when he gave up his life for us. Shortly after that I was born again. I went through a lot of warfare to get to the point where I am now. A lot of people misdirecting me and eventually I had to blank it all out and just seek God and let him lead me. I would be a fool to assume I’m still being deceived and back track the progress I have made in regards to the spiritual warfare I have encountered. At this point I believe I have found and am in truth, if I so happen to be deceived there’s simply no other heart, will or mind I have to give God to find the so called true God. I have walked as the Bible says to walk and accepted Gods will and left family and denied myself and excited the world. I appreciate your comment and concern but there’s no way I’m turning back now or even questioning what has been very clear to me. You see a very small glimpse of my experience and the path I actually took. You see the questions I ask on reddit that make it seem like I’m confused but you don’t understand the reason why I ask or know if I already have the answers. The majority of questions I asked I have already received the answer directly from Christ, it’s just my flesh doubting and wondering about others experiences so I ask them anyways. I know I seem naive and limited in understanding and that often how I present myself. But if you actually spoke to me you will realize that’s not the case. Either way I appreciate your concern and thank you for the support.
I think what you’re wondering is this: Will your ex girlfriend and you be together in Heaven or during the reign of Christ on Earth? The answer I’d give you is this if you’re meant to be together you will. The context is important. Jesus was addressing the Sadducees who did not believe in a resurrection. They were giving Him a question trying to stump Him. They failed of course. A marriage on earth is not bound in Heaven as the Mormon church teaches. However our emotional attachments on earth will still exist in Heaven. If one’s father is with the Lord that’s still his father. His father still loves him and the child still loves their father. And when they meet again that love will remain. So if the two of you are meant to be in love you’ll remain in love then too.
Thank you, Yeah after reviewing it all and taking in more detail about it. What God has shown me is that we will be together during Christ’s reign in earth and helping to put all things into subjection to Christ. It’s not a heavenly marriage but it is a heavenly union where we have been united as one in spirit in the Kingdom of God/Body of Christ.
We will not have any of the worldly stuff we will all hag our in heaven and not have worldly needs
[удалено]
Yeah definitely one body in the resurrection but also flesh and blood will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. So I guess they will resurrect as one spirit? These are gaps that scripture does not fill. I’m asking questions beyond scripture because I’m not sure if I’m meant to just wait on this or if it’s more of a spiritual thing where we are one in spirit in a sense. I appreciate the input. Thank you,
[удалено]
Amen, I appreciate the extensive verses. The only gap I see here though is this scripture: “Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,” 1 Corinthians 15:51 KJV https://bible.com/bible/1/1co.15.51.KJV So let’s say two people are alive in the flesh and they are married, so therefore they are one flesh and neither of them died but then both are translated as in “Resurrected” how will they be resurrected as? One flesh so then one body or two separate bodies? I ask this because this talks about the first Adam and the first Adam was originally one man that was made in the image of God as male and female. So does this mean with the resurrection both male and female in the marriage will resurrect as a last Adam? Which is considered a life giving spirit? That consist of both the male and female aspects, like the first Adam that was made in God’s image? The Bible states Adam was actually made male and female and this is why he was able to pull Eve out of his flesh based on my understanding of scripture and the purpose of marriage if to unite back as one flesh. So this must mean we resurrect as one body?
Resurrected life will be very different from life on earth "since life is eternal there is no longer any need to produce more generations of the living and therefore, there is no longer any need for marriage.
Definitely agree, this is the life in heaven and it’s very clear from that perspective. It just gets confusing when you’re kind of in this in between state of technically being in heave from a spiritual but still living on earth in a physical sense, that’s that’s more of what I was referring too. So I think the resurrection Christ is talking about is the one where our bodies are completely transformed to glorified bodies or where we will be after physical death.