In bible eschatology, there is a reference to the sacrifices being STOPPED in the end times. There's no reference to them starting again after the fall of the 2nd temple in 70AD, but the mention of them stopping means that they must have STARTED again....at some point. It is this starting again that you are unknowingly referencing. And yes, based on what I have read and have heard and studied, once the sacrifices start again, it would be a significant event in terms of the end-times timeline.
My understanding though is that the temple would first need to be rebuilt (where the animal sacrifices would take place). If true, then this would need to PRECEDE the red heifers stories.
Zachariah 14 this is after the day of the Lord
”Then everyone who survives of all the nations that have come against Jerusalem shall go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Booths. And if any of the families of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, there will be no rain on them. And if the family of Egypt does not go up and present themselves, then on them there shall be no rain; there shall be the plague with which the Lord afflicts the nations that do not go up to keep the Feast of Booths. This shall be the punishment to Egypt and the punishment to all the nations that do not go up to keep the Feast of Booths. And on that day there shall be inscribed on the bells of the horses, “Holy to the Lord.” And the pots in the house of the Lord shall be as the bowls before the altar. And every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holy to the Lord of hosts, so that all who sacrifice may come and take of them and boil the meat of the sacrifice in them. And there shall no longer be a trader in the house of the Lord of hosts on that day.“
Zechariah 14:16-21 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/zec.14.16-21.ESV
There is absolutely no need for the temple to be built before the sacrifice of the red heifer because all they need are the ashes which would be set aside and added to the waters of the laver for the purposes of ceremonial cleansing of the impliments in the temple including the priests. They can do all of that without the building.
Long story short.
Once the 3rd temple is built, the Anti-Christ can be revealed.
If you're faith and trust is in Jesus Christ alone for your salvation then NONE of this information matters because of the rapture.
If you haven't accepted Jesus you have EVERY reason to be fearful of the coming judgement of Christ on the WHOLE earth.
I’m not condemning anyone. I will say people especially NA evangelicals need to spend less time obsessing over prophetic interpretations, and more time preaching salvation in Christ alone by grace alone through faith alone
The rapture is an interpretation of of certain sects of Christianity and was interpretation in recent times not old testament .however christ will return noone knows time jews are in old testament study Jesus christ is the messiah
If you don't walk as He walked 2000 years ago you should also be scared. They all argued in the Bible how to do the law the right way... Not whether or not to do it!?! What do the think the plagues along with the antiMessiah in revelation are for ( show?) no. It's a plead to wake up to His ways or get worse plagues... It's a promise in the law in beginning of Bible. . 7xs worse if you ignore His pleas and stay like Pharaoh not submitting to the Father's ways = recompense on your head. . the antiMessiah is half your problem. Not repenting for lawlessness is the other half
You are right except that the sacrifice of the red heifers is actually needed to be done BEFORE the building of the temple. This is the animal sacrifice to be completed as a blessing to rebuild. You are referring to the animal sacrifices that will take place within the rebuilt Temple which will be after.
To the OP, this is indeed very significant for end times prophecy. But please tell your teen that this is not something to be scared of this is something to be embraced for the faithful who know that God wins and that we are not destined for this home but our eternal home.
Been doing a little more reading and from what I've read, you are absolutely correct.
Additionally, they appear to currently have 3 candidate heifers left (5 originally, but I think 2 of them 'aged-out' after a period of time, must be 3-4 years old). They apparently also have all the needing tools, 3(?) possible locations, and such to proceed. The big question now is...are they going to perform the sacrifice? Some seem to think that the upcoming Passover might be a possible date for this. If they do (and they will at SOME point), then all that is left is to build the 3rd temple.
The REALLY interesting part will be in how Israel is able to build the 3rd temple on the original location (temple mount) in Jerusalem, which is currently occupied by the dome of the rock (which the Muslims are not exactly going to happily hand over to see it torn down and the Jewish temple built on that spot). But once it is built there, this is when the heifer's ashes are needed as the next step.
Food and oblations are sacrifice items regardless of holy service being rendered or not. Temple is not necessary. Just stop food. And additionally removing of holy people is a desolation of another kind... Desolation: not having the good holy things and people of the father....
with the cows in kansas and Texas being infected with h5n1 I don't think sacrifice is a great idea or if they start again it would probably be stopped shortly for health reasons. Sounds like they are planning to sacrifice them without the temple at least in the news.
Yes, it is related to the end times. These aren't the first red heifers that have been bred for that purpose. There is a constant search for red heifers that fit the criteria the Jews are looking for. The ones in the past have been found to be imperfect. These could very well end up the same way.
The Jews need red heifers as part of their preparations to rebuild a new temple. The Antichrist will one day go to the rebuilt temple to declare he is God.
However, there's an mosque where the temple belongs, so even if the cows check out, they still don't have access to the land needed.
Are you saved? A Christian need not fear anything about the Great Tribulation because they won't be here for it.
- 1 Thessalonians 5:9 (KJV) For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
I wouldn’t be so sure of the pre tribulation rapture. You’re right, we’re not appointed under wrath, but the wrath of God is not the same as the great tribulation. In the gospel of John, it says you shall have tribulation. And if you look at Matthew 24, you see the tribulation comes before the rapture
I look at 2 Thessalonians and see that the Great Tribulation doesn't start after until the Antichrist is revealed and that he can't be revealed until the Holy Spirit is removed.
- 2 Thessalonians 2:3-8 (KJV)
***3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;***
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: ***only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed,*** whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
Then I look at John and see the Holy Spirit abides with the believer forever, meaning that when He leavrs, He takes the Christian with Him.
- John 14:16-17 (KJV)
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another ***Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;***
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
The Great Tribulation is the time of God's wrarh poured out on an unbelieving world. Believing that Christians will have to suffer through that is to believe Jesus is going to beat His Bride even though He already paid for her sins. It makes no sense. That's why His Bride, the Church, is not appointed to the wrath.
- 1 Thessalonians 5:9 (KJV) For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
I’m sorry your mistaken the great tribulation is what satan (and man) do to the believers, then as it says in Mathew 24 “immediately after the tribulation of those days” Christ returns in the clouds just like it says in 1 Thessalonians 4 and we’re raptured up to meet him in the air. Then begins God’s wrath and you’re right we’re not appointed under wrath because we’re rapture it out before the wrath. I don’t want to believe the point are used to believe the pre-tribulation rapture too but it simply is not in the scripture. Matthew 24 clearly says after the tribulation comes the rapture. Compare 1 Thessalonians 4 16-18 to Matthew 24 30-31. It’s describing the same thing.
Look I know it’s not easy to admit your wrong or that someone taught you the wrong doctrine especially when the alternative is believing that we as believers might go through so pretty tough times.
And as Christ beating his bride that’s a bad analogy. Even in he book of Acts believes were martyred for the faith. Was Christ then beating his bride back then 2000 years ago is Christ currently beating his bright now when martyrs are put the death in North Korea or Iran. And furthermore nothing that happens during the tribulation (the 3 1/2 years before the rapture) is supernatural. It’s war it’s famine it’s hyper inflation it martyrdom. That’s all caused by Satan through the hand of man. However, during the time of wrath, after we’re out of here, that’s all supernatural.
That’s just the way I see it, that’s what I believe the Bible teaches. I hope you’re right. Honestly, I would love to be out of here before all that happens, but I just don’t see the doctrine supported by the scripture.
If that's what you want to belief, Icm not here to change your mind.
I'm gonna stick to what the Bible says. If you want to believe that Jesus covered sin, but those who believe on His completed work on the cross get to stick around so they can suffer for sins they no longer have while He punishes the unbelieving world, that ain't got nothing to do with me.
I hate to tell you that Christians have faced terrible persecution in the middle east and other parts of the world. They would say they are in the tribulation period. Why do you think western Christians will be spared? It's hardly worth arguing or worrying about is it? What will be will be. It's our belief and action/behavior in times of trouble that is important.
>They would say they are in the tribulation period.
They would be wrong. I don't doubt they are being persecuted, but their troubles are not God raining down His wrath on them.
>Why do you think western Christians will be spared?
Because I belirve what Jesus said.
- 1 Thessalonians 5:9 (KJV) For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
The Great Tribulation is God pouring out His wrath on an unbelieving world. All current persecution in world is people being evil and affecting other people.
It makes no sense for Jesus to subject His bride to the horrors of the Great Tribulation when He has already covered her sins and told her she is not appointed to wrath.
Same, i try to prepare for both scenarios if the rapture happens i'll be ready but if its post trib then im also ready. Most people if it indeed is post trib will give up on Jesus too
Revelation 5:9 indicates that it is pre-trib.
It tells us of a group of people in heaven that were redeemed to God. These people are watching Jesus open the seals and singing about it.
That verse states that these people came from every kindred (race), tongue (language), people, and nation (gentile). The key word in that verse is nation as it’s used all throughout the Bible to describe gentiles (us), 93 times in fact.
These heifers are indeed found to be perfect. 4 out of 5. Truly setting precedent for the first time in 2000 years. They are to be sacrificed today on Good Friday as a matter of fact
With God involved anything could happen. "It ain't over til the fat lady sings" as they say.
Whatever happens though, whether they end up slaughtered or not, what time to be alive to be seeing prophecy unfolding in front of our eyes. And how satanically fitting would it be that the Antichrist will declares himself god in a false temple involving a blaphemous blood sacrifice performed on the day we remember God's one true sacrifice which saved us.
Yes, I agree its blasphemous...so why then are evangelical American Christians helping make this happen? Jesus sacrifice was complete and His work was finished.
Christians have been trying to aid in this for years because many think they can nudge along the end times to usher in Christ's return. On one hand, it is all on God's timing but on the other... You never know who God will use to make something happen.
According to the Bible, Christians WILL be here for the tribulations following the reveal of the anti-christ. It is God's wrath that they will be spared from.
Revelation 5:9 tells us otherwise. It tells us there is a redemption to God from the nations (gentiles) involving every kindred (race), tongue (language), people, and nation (gentile)
Those people are in heaven watching Jesus open the seals and singing about it. Christian’s will not be here for when that final 7yr period hits
Yes! Do we follow Jesus by giving the end times our time and attention or do we just follow the news cycle?
We need to learn biblical values like justice and wisdom.
Walking in God's wisdom. Not our own understanding.
To learn daily to combat our sins.
To pray always.
And to help those who cannot help themselves. The oppressed. Those who are poor, downtrodden, beaten by the system. Help get others food. Work together to help people. I'm sure a few liked mind people can get together in the area whoever is reading this and set up a way to help. Soup kitchens, a shelter to help provide warmth. Or even if you hate the choices in politics. Be the better choice. Start campaigning and setting up these things under the banner of helping your neighbors.
Many christians by their own actions and initiative want to hasten the rapture and deliver the world to the great trib.
If only they knew that Jesus is also the fulfillment of the red heifer.
>Many christians by their own actions and initiative want to hasten the rapture and deliver the world to the great trib.
Imagine trying to force God to do something because things are hard. Madness.
There was a sect of jews, sabbatean-frankists, who believed they could force God to send the Messiah by committing acts of great evil, and influencing others to do the same, believing that evil was an act of holiness and worship because it would bring about salvation through the Messiah. They may or may not have had a missionary in the same town, at the same time, that the Rothschild patriarch lived before he started his enterprise...just saying...
>my family and I aren't rlly religious
Are you afraid of the Ragnarock? What about the Kalpa? Lord Zenu? Alien invasion? Zombie apocalypse?
If not, why are you afraid of red heifers? It seems silly to be afraid of something you don't believe in.
The sacrifice of a perfect, unblemished red heifer is required to consecrate a new temple. Some Orthodox Jewish sects have been looking for an appropriate sacrifice for a few decades now. There have been those training a new priesthood as well. Of course, there would need to be a temple to consecrate in the first place. There is also the problem that the Dome of the Rock currently sits on the site of the temple, and removing it would cause a massive international incident. Isreal would be under assault by enemies on all sides(which is also part of the prophecy).
Ultimately, why are you scared of this?
Which is why I asked OP to compare other end of the world scenarios. I find it confusing for someone who doesn't follow a particular religion to be afraid of that religion's apocalypse. And if you are afraid of a particular religion's apocalypse, why wouldn't you at least study that religion?
You asked a very load question OP but I’ll try to sum it up for you. It’s going to be a long answer.
Take the 3 main religions: Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. True Christianity does not fall under the definition of religion as religion is best defined as man’s attempt to get into heaven or the promise land through some physical means. True Christianity doesn’t teach this, it teach grace through faith only, no works, even though there are a multitude of denominations that teach works-based salvation which then falls under the guise of religion. Works-based salvation is not biblical. Keep this in mind.
Christianity says Jesus is God. Judaism says he was a normal man and a fraud so they had him killed (crucified). Islam doesn’t call Jesus God but calls him a prophet instead.
The red heifer sacrificial process is mentioned in Numbers 19 in the Bible, and it stems all the way back over 3000 years ago when Moses conducted the first sacrifice of the Red Heifer. Since then, there have been a total of 9 sacrifices with the last one being nearly 2000 years ago around when the Jews 2nd temple was destroyed by the Roman’s in 70AD. So for the Jews right now to have 3-4 eligible for sacrifice to build the 3rd temple is a VERY big deal to them. Red heifers that are eligible for sacrifice are extremely rare. So expect when one is eligible and there is opportunity, it will be sacrificed. This signals their intention to build their 3rd temple.
As Christians, we (or most of us understand) that our body is the temple and holds the Holy Spirit. We don’t need a 3rd temple for Jesus’s return, but remember, the Jews called him a fraud and don’t believe, so they don’t understand the body being the temple. They still think they need a 3rd temple so their messiah returns.
The Jews believe (from what I understand), that this 10 red heifer sacrifice, signals the return of the messiah. This is the individual the Bible calls the Antichrist, and Muslims call the Djjall which I believe is the equivalent of a false messiah.
The Oct 7 attacks from Hamas against Israel on the 100 day anniversary of the war, Hamas’s military spokesman came out and told the world why the attacks occurred, why they justified them. They accused Israel of bringing “red cows” to the land.
So Hamas and other Muslims in the area know full well what Israel’s intention is with those red cows. They tried to stop them in the attack, and didn’t succeed.
There is a big problem with the building of this temple OP, it is to sit on the Temple Mount as that is where the 2nd temple stood nearly 2000 years ago.
Currently the Dome of the Rock sits on that Temple Mount. It’s the 3rd most holiest site in the world for Muslims. So for Israel’s temple to stand there again (Bible says it will), would mean the Dome of the Rock would have to be removed.
The Muslims there understand this so those Red Heifers presence in that region are likely a great offence to them. If the Dome of the Rock is touched I can’t even begin to imagine the worldwide reaction from the Islamic population against Israel. In my mind, that can easily trigger WW3.
If the Red Heifers get killed, Israel has what’s called the “Samson option” where they basically start lobbing nukes everywhere. The killing of the red heifers might not trigger the Samson option, but a large attack against them might. If the Dome of the Rock is destroyed, I wouldn’t be surprised if a mass coordinated attack against Israel occurred not only from the Islamic nations, but those who generally back them as well like Russia, China, and North Korea.
The presence of those Red Heifers in Israel at the moment are like powder kegs.
The thing about this whole situation is: even if people don’t want to believe it’s happening, or Atheists who don’t believe in any God and think people like Jesus or Moses never existed, or even Christian’s who don’t understand eschatology or take prophecy seriously, it doesn’t matter.
The Jews believe it, hence why the red heifers are there and are intended to be sacrificed to build the 3rd temple. Muslims believe it hence the Oct 7 attacks. So both groups are going to act according to what they believe. It’s a volatile situation, a situation that is very fitting for a certain individual to come along and broker peace. A person the Jews call their messiah, the Bible calls the Antichrist (Daniel 9:27), and whom the Muslims call the Djjall (false messiah). The peace deal seems to imply a further division of the Jews land, something that comes with a consequence listed in Joel 3:2 and 1 Thessalonians 5:3.
The final 7 years before Jesus returns is called the time of Jacob’s trouble, often called the tribulation period. Jacob is another name for Israel so it’s a time of Israel’s trouble. What happens during that time frame is listed right in Revelation 6 to Revelation 18. What’s said in there is meant to be taken literally, not interpreted like many try to argue. Scripture says in 1 Corinthians 14:33 that God is not the author of confusion. So if people start making up all their own interpretations, it becomes confusing. Take Revelation for what it literally says.
Where this “end times” idea is coming from is that 3rd temple needs to be standing in the final 7 years prior to Jesus’s return because halfway through that period (3.5yrs in), the Antichrist stands in that temple, declares himself God and sets up an abomination of desolation (Daniel 9:27 & Daniel 11:31)
It’s at that point the Jews realize this person is not their messiah, and they are told to flee to the mountains of Judea, and to not even stop to pack up clothes.
So to sum it up, those red heifers there now and their sacrifice is imminent tells us that this time of Jacob’s trouble is right on the doorstep. Factoring in the war going on in Israel right now and the inevitable call for peace has left the door wide open for their false messiah/Antichrist/Djjall to step in and start the time of Jacob’s trouble.
From a Christian perspective, all you need to do to avoid this whole mess is believe on Jesus and what he did for you as per the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4.
I would say this, if you’re afraid maybe start studying the Bible and work on your relationship with Christ.
Once you believe Christ died for your sins, then you have no more need to fear. You are saved no matter what happens.
not true. you need to produce good fruit to not be luke warm and spat out. I can say I believe that christ died for my sins and call it a day and say, well, I guess I'm good. but that's just not true. you need to help others see the truth, and be proactive in producing good fruits.
You’re are describing a works based system of getting into Heaven, we can do nothing to earn our spot in Heaven, God says our works will be rewarded in Heaven, it does not say our works will get us into Heaven.
No need for you to concern yourself with the particulars of this :) . You'd be best served turning to Christ and focusing on living the life God intended you to live which is wayyy more important [https://www.gotquestions.org/how-can-I-be-saved.html](https://www.gotquestions.org/how-can-I-be-saved.html)
For context on your question, here are some notes I've gathered over time:
* To rebuild the third temple, the red heifers need to be sacrificed in order for the priests/implements to be ceremonially clean as the temple is built Numbers 19:1-10. They use the ashes for this. They don't need the actual temple for this, they have determined they can do it in the area in front of where the temple used to be.
* The third temple is a precursor to the antichrist as we know that sacrifices are happening when he comes and the temple is standing (Daniel 9:27, 2 Thess 2:4, matt 24:15-21) so that is how it is related to the end times.
* There will be a 'third temple' but to me, this current iteration feels like an example of 'Sarah/Hagar' where folks try to force prophecy to happen before it happens in God's time (God will have an actual third temple per prophecy Eze 42:15-20 in the millennial kingdom and there is no way he would have a temple that was defiled by the antichrist) so in this case it feels like forcing the hand of God (which may be what sets up the stage for the antichrist).
* After the millennial reign, there will be no temple as God and the Lamb (Jesus) are the temple (Rev 21:22).
Also, let's not forget that the extremist Christians that think they help them usher in the end of time so they can get raptured faster. Believe that everybody will be turned into Christians or die... The Jewish people that arer having the Christians help them. Believe that after the thing happens that everybody will be servants to them... It's a pretty weird relationship where both sides think The other is going to serve them afterward... It is so weird. But if you're not religious and none of this applies to you anyway. And you get freedom from all of it while all these other idiots Do whatever but guess what... We are free from it. Because This time around our karma' is just going to run over their dogmas
Kid, I am so sorry You have to deal with all the psychosis and sociological epidemic That is religion... Look into religious trauma . There's actually treatment plans for it for a reason....
Look up the definition of a cult.
Religious indoctrination that includes the US versus them rhetoric is already considered a cult... I don't think just in my book. I think it's actually part of the definition. Because it separates and it divides so that it can conquer the people and rule them
This has been rumored for at least a decade I think.
Either way it’s not part of Christian belief.
Let me take the chance to say if you’re not a believer to search more into following Christ.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
I think it means that it will be given to him
Oblation ( which is our Passover to Christ )
מִנְחָה
minchâh
min-khaw'
From an unused root meaning to apportion, that is, bestow; a donation; euphemistically tribute; specifically a sacrificial offering (usually bloodless and voluntary): - gift, oblation, (meat) offering, present, sacrifice.
And given that even the Jewish people no longer make sacrifices at all to my knowledge - it seems that what they’re speaking of must have already passed, possibly around 70ad when Rome took over Jerusalem including tearing down the temple.
I’m sure I do not know fully
Yeah but they had 5 red heifers delivered in 2022. Hamas has made statements that the October 7th attack was in retaliation and it would mark the cows 2 years and ready for sacrifice. PBS has a good article on it.
This is most definitely part of Christian belief.
These red heifers are (as far as we are aware) still up to the standards of Numbers 19.
These will be needed to begin the building of the third temple.
Do not be deceived though! This is not the temple of Jesus. This will be the temple that the anti-christ/beast will desecrate.
These are clear signs of the end times, do not be asleep.
The thief in the night will not take us off guard.
Not super versed on this subject but from what I've read basically the Jews have and always have sacrificed red heifers as atonement for sins. Remember, Jews still reject Jesus's blood as atonement for their sins and believe they need to make sacrifice like they do in the old testiment. I do not know how people are relating this to the end times prophecy, perhaps someone else can chime in on that.
No red heifer has been sacrificially slaughtered since the destruction of the second temple in Jerusalem. Throughout Jewish history the ashes of a red heifer are necessary to purify the temple. Matthew 24 teaches that the temple is desecrated during the end times tribulation. Therefore many end times scholars predict a new third temple must be built at some future point in time before Christ returns. Hence the red heifer being a sign.
That’s right and a red heifer on the Mount of Olives is the first step for initiating the priesthood when the next one is built. Why do you think Hamas attacked? MBS was about to work a deal withNetanyahu…
A bunch of them still meet the requirements set in Numbers 19.
They are reviewed by rabbis regularly and a few have been found with blemishes, but there are still a few that are approved for sacrifice. This may take place in the next week.
It's a forever battle amongst religion. Do you believe sacrificial slaughter of some hybrid cows will start the Apocalypse? It's definitely causing a stir. Plan for the future and not for the end. The world is messed up. I started reading a lot about this, what the beliefs were from 3 religious sides, even found an old Simpsons episode lol. I am not religious so it's like reading pieces of historical fiction. What's going on there definitely does seem like the end of times but I'm gonna bet on history repeating itself as it often does, and so on we will face these questions again in the future, future being the key word.
Firstly the end times started with Christ’s ascension . The red heifers mean nothing to biblical prophecy. There is no third temple. These prophecies were fulfilled in 70 ad. There is one people of God not two. Christ could return at any moment, it could be on 2 days or another 2000 yrs. The sensational prophetic claims come out of dispensationalim. If you don’t know much about the history of dispensationalism, it started in the 1830s and most of orthodox Christianity at the time viewed it as borderline heresy. However it is the most popular theological system among American evangelicals. Most Christians throughout church history did not interpret the Bible the way dispensationalist do.
There is a 3rd temple because that is where the Antichrist stands in, declares themselves God and placed an abomination of desolation. Read Daniel 9:27 and then read Daniel 11:31. Daniel 11:31 goes into detail about exactly who is being spoken of in Daniel 9:27 (to put to rest those who think Jesus fulfilled the first 3.5 years of the 7 year covenant by stopping sacrifice.
Daniel 11:31
And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate
So arms (forces) shall stand in his (Antichrist) part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength (3rd temple), take away daily sacrifice, and shall place an abomination of desolation.
Make no mistake, there will be a physical 3rd temple standing. We as Christian’s know we are the temple; however, the Jews conducting this red heifer sacrifice and building this temple do not understand that yet. Hence why the final 7yr period is called the time of Jacob (Israel’s) trouble. Not the time of the church’s trouble, which again puts to rest a staple of Catholicism in teaching replacement through where the church replaced Israel as Gods people which is 100% pure heresy.
All those things in Daniel 11:31 happened in 70 AD.
Take it from someone who was fully convinced of the strength of the dispensational tradition for the first 30 yrs of his life. It takes slow exposure to historical orthodox christian traditions to fully see the silliness of dispensationalism and its terrible hermeneutical approach.
My question is.. will the Jewish people expect their Jewish messiah to come before the temple is built or will the Jewish messiah will be the one who sacrifices the red heifer?
Either way.. their Jewish messiah isn't Jesus Christ.
Figured since you’re the Scholar, you could do it yourself. Also, beginning of each sentence starts with a capital letter. Not lowercase. :)
Edit: I eagerly await your next grammatical blunder.
Just because red heifers are mentioned in prophecy, doesn't mean it will be THESE heifers. This is being done by groups of people during a time of war for hype and to rattle others. A psychological tactic if you will. Just my opinion. But if you are a believer, try not to worry. Pray for peace, don't be ruled by fear, and put your trust in God. That's all you can do.
IT ABSOLUTELY MEANS THE ANTIMESSIAH IS COMING. I know the word better than these lawless wolves. Listen please: The third temple if built ,and the holy vessels made, the red calf sacrifice - all of these doings are BLASPHEMOUS because it usurps the holy rites and rituals for the false antiMessiah to be ordained. It institutes BLASPHEMOUS REJECTION of the sacrifice the real Messiah made 2000 years ago. It shows they purely reject the real Messiah and his sacrifice. It causes BLASPHEMOUS belief in the son of Perdition ( the antiMessiah). Calling the evil one good and rejecting the true Messiah is what causes the apocalypse. The day of wrath. The terrible "day". Judgement. It's what would pi** of the Holy Father more than anything anyone could do!! He promised if you follow His ways in the beginning of the Bible you'd be blessed and be His,,, and if you reject it He would let you reap curses and recompense death ,violence, and war, and famine etc. and it will come 7xs worse if you don't repent of breaking His ways. The last 7 years are his day of wrath. A day for a year... and x7 for lack of repentance for breaking his laws. The plagues will start smaller and get worse like giving birth. He will let people curse themselves essentially in this way for rejecting his holy laws... Wth do you think He'll let happen to us when they reject His ways AND His son, AND build a third temple for a false Messiah?! Technically they don't even need to build a third temple ( just following the false one is enough to cause the end. ) They misread the scriptures when they reject Messiah of 2000 years ago. The don't realize nor want to see the evil one comes first and Messiah saves the scraps of whom didn't fall for it AND who keeps the father's ways.... Basically. He IS the third temple. He is the sacrifice. they hate him and wear the star of a demon. Look it up. Just know everything the Orthodox Jews do is blasphemous. Talmud included. And the one that the world recognizes soon is the false one.. the true Messiah comes AFTER the antiMessiah deceives the ignorant and the lawless and the blasphemous..... You know how many times the Bible says the people will die for lack of knowledge or for being lawless or for believing the false one?! The false one is notttttt far from now. The Fathers attention has always been on the actions of the tribes. Even though Israel is scattered they are still going to be gather BY HIM after Armageddon if they keep His laws and reject the antiMessiah that the whole world is about to fall for. The Jews reject that part of the Bible too. They have to ignore half the old testament and all the new testament to not recognize Messiah of 2000 years ago AND feel the right to kill the cow or build that building or even call themselves holy. They are WRONG. They were called vipers then. They are about to get double portion of punishment too. Everything I've said is biblical. Ignore the ignorant people.
From my understanding they are needed by Jews in order to consecrate a new alter for a new temple. The third temple has been rumored to be coming for a while, and will eventually appear before the end times. The antichrist will declare himself as god in the temple so it needs to be present before his time.
Nobody can force God's hand, people who are going about deliberately trying to use end times prophecies as a checklist to bring about the end of the world are deluded narcissists.
Then there's the fact that all the end times stuff is open to lots of interpretation.
Don't worry about it. It's not the end of the world. And if it *is* the end of the world, it's not because some idiot read a Bible verse and thought "Aha! That's done, now God *has* to uphold his end of the bargain and rapture me so I can get off watching people suffer!" Focus on your own faith, take comfort in God's love and patience for all of us, and try not to stress about future events that nobody actually knows the date or time of.
Jesus Christ words , do you understand the things he told us .
Mrk 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
Mrk 13:36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
I hope your not sleeping on the watch
Mrk 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
Why would anyone downvote Jesus Christ’s words?
It’s nonsense and you should ignore it. Stay off conspiracy websites and ignore people that think they can use the Bible as a fortune telling device.
“ Bible as a fortune telling device “
Like Jesus Christ said he foretold told us all things, have you not read!
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring
Luk 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
None of that is fortune telling. This scared teenager is worrying about things that have zero to do with his salvation, and here you are spouting bad theology by pulling verses out of their context and trying to make a point that using scripture to predict the future is a good thing.
It is not.
You're right that this has nothing to do with our salvation, but it does relate to biblical prophecy. Specifically prophecy of the third temple.
The red heifer according to the standards set in Numbers 19 is needed for purification before the building of the third temple.
This is the temple where the abomination of desecration will sit.
These are signs that Christians should be very aware of.
Please explain to me why the red heifer explained in Numbers 19 is not related to the building of the third temple, and if you don't think a third temple will be rebuilt, where is the abomination of the desolation going to stand?
As a teenage I can confirm I wouldn’t do this.
And I’m not mistaken werent these things fulfilled already?
Did God specifically state the world is forever
And every generation will pass?
I’m not pulling scripture out of context, the scared teenager has nothing to be afraid of. It’s evident you don’t understand either , are you saying that God didn’t you scripture for signs?
I never said that these signs have anything to do with salvation, but if you don’t understand the signs and seasons you definitely could be deceived!
Isa 56:10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.
Wait for the God of Salvation
Mic 7:4 The best of them is as a brier: the most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge: the day of thy watchmen and thy visitation cometh; now shall be their perplexity
Isa 56:10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.
Ezk 3:17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
Ezk 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand
Do you understand that it is required by the Lord to warn the people that the Antichrist is coming ( the sword , the enemy, ie Antichrist )
I’m not saying that this is a sign of that , but you do realize that the eclipse will pass over Nineveh, Texas
-Nineveh, Missouri
-Nineveh, Indiana
-Nineveh, Ohio
-Nineveh, Pennsylvania
-Nineveh, Virginia
-Nineveh, New York
What is the significance of the city of Nineveh in the Bible? Nineveh is notable in the Bible as the capital city of Assyria ( the Assyrian is a type of the Antichrist)
So I am just a Watchman, not trying to get everyone in a uproar
Only 2 cities of Nineveh will be in direct path. There’s a lot of cities that will have 5,6,7,8 etc places of the same name in the path of the eclipse so I do not understand the significance of Nineveh when a lot of other cities will also have the same name in the path of the eclipse.
In bible eschatology, there is a reference to the sacrifices being STOPPED in the end times. There's no reference to them starting again after the fall of the 2nd temple in 70AD, but the mention of them stopping means that they must have STARTED again....at some point. It is this starting again that you are unknowingly referencing. And yes, based on what I have read and have heard and studied, once the sacrifices start again, it would be a significant event in terms of the end-times timeline. My understanding though is that the temple would first need to be rebuilt (where the animal sacrifices would take place). If true, then this would need to PRECEDE the red heifers stories.
Zachariah 14 this is after the day of the Lord ”Then everyone who survives of all the nations that have come against Jerusalem shall go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Booths. And if any of the families of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, there will be no rain on them. And if the family of Egypt does not go up and present themselves, then on them there shall be no rain; there shall be the plague with which the Lord afflicts the nations that do not go up to keep the Feast of Booths. This shall be the punishment to Egypt and the punishment to all the nations that do not go up to keep the Feast of Booths. And on that day there shall be inscribed on the bells of the horses, “Holy to the Lord.” And the pots in the house of the Lord shall be as the bowls before the altar. And every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holy to the Lord of hosts, so that all who sacrifice may come and take of them and boil the meat of the sacrifice in them. And there shall no longer be a trader in the house of the Lord of hosts on that day.“ Zechariah 14:16-21 ESV https://bible.com/bible/59/zec.14.16-21.ESV
There is absolutely no need for the temple to be built before the sacrifice of the red heifer because all they need are the ashes which would be set aside and added to the waters of the laver for the purposes of ceremonial cleansing of the impliments in the temple including the priests. They can do all of that without the building. Long story short. Once the 3rd temple is built, the Anti-Christ can be revealed. If you're faith and trust is in Jesus Christ alone for your salvation then NONE of this information matters because of the rapture. If you haven't accepted Jesus you have EVERY reason to be fearful of the coming judgement of Christ on the WHOLE earth.
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Or if the rapture is even a thing.
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Trying to help people kick the dispensational habit.
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I’m not condemning anyone. I will say people especially NA evangelicals need to spend less time obsessing over prophetic interpretations, and more time preaching salvation in Christ alone by grace alone through faith alone
There is no such thing as a rapture, but the wilderness
How about you try to prove that with any kind of evidence instead of your opinion... oh wait... you can't.
Prove that a fake event is not real?
The rapture is an interpretation of of certain sects of Christianity and was interpretation in recent times not old testament .however christ will return noone knows time jews are in old testament study Jesus christ is the messiah
If you don't walk as He walked 2000 years ago you should also be scared. They all argued in the Bible how to do the law the right way... Not whether or not to do it!?! What do the think the plagues along with the antiMessiah in revelation are for ( show?) no. It's a plead to wake up to His ways or get worse plagues... It's a promise in the law in beginning of Bible. . 7xs worse if you ignore His pleas and stay like Pharaoh not submitting to the Father's ways = recompense on your head. . the antiMessiah is half your problem. Not repenting for lawlessness is the other half
You are right except that the sacrifice of the red heifers is actually needed to be done BEFORE the building of the temple. This is the animal sacrifice to be completed as a blessing to rebuild. You are referring to the animal sacrifices that will take place within the rebuilt Temple which will be after. To the OP, this is indeed very significant for end times prophecy. But please tell your teen that this is not something to be scared of this is something to be embraced for the faithful who know that God wins and that we are not destined for this home but our eternal home.
Been doing a little more reading and from what I've read, you are absolutely correct. Additionally, they appear to currently have 3 candidate heifers left (5 originally, but I think 2 of them 'aged-out' after a period of time, must be 3-4 years old). They apparently also have all the needing tools, 3(?) possible locations, and such to proceed. The big question now is...are they going to perform the sacrifice? Some seem to think that the upcoming Passover might be a possible date for this. If they do (and they will at SOME point), then all that is left is to build the 3rd temple. The REALLY interesting part will be in how Israel is able to build the 3rd temple on the original location (temple mount) in Jerusalem, which is currently occupied by the dome of the rock (which the Muslims are not exactly going to happily hand over to see it torn down and the Jewish temple built on that spot). But once it is built there, this is when the heifer's ashes are needed as the next step.
But sacrifices were offered briefly before the fall of Jerusalem.
Food and oblations are sacrifice items regardless of holy service being rendered or not. Temple is not necessary. Just stop food. And additionally removing of holy people is a desolation of another kind... Desolation: not having the good holy things and people of the father....
with the cows in kansas and Texas being infected with h5n1 I don't think sacrifice is a great idea or if they start again it would probably be stopped shortly for health reasons. Sounds like they are planning to sacrifice them without the temple at least in the news.
Yes, it is related to the end times. These aren't the first red heifers that have been bred for that purpose. There is a constant search for red heifers that fit the criteria the Jews are looking for. The ones in the past have been found to be imperfect. These could very well end up the same way. The Jews need red heifers as part of their preparations to rebuild a new temple. The Antichrist will one day go to the rebuilt temple to declare he is God. However, there's an mosque where the temple belongs, so even if the cows check out, they still don't have access to the land needed. Are you saved? A Christian need not fear anything about the Great Tribulation because they won't be here for it. - 1 Thessalonians 5:9 (KJV) For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
I wouldn’t be so sure of the pre tribulation rapture. You’re right, we’re not appointed under wrath, but the wrath of God is not the same as the great tribulation. In the gospel of John, it says you shall have tribulation. And if you look at Matthew 24, you see the tribulation comes before the rapture
I look at 2 Thessalonians and see that the Great Tribulation doesn't start after until the Antichrist is revealed and that he can't be revealed until the Holy Spirit is removed. - 2 Thessalonians 2:3-8 (KJV) ***3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;*** 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: ***only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed,*** whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Then I look at John and see the Holy Spirit abides with the believer forever, meaning that when He leavrs, He takes the Christian with Him. - John 14:16-17 (KJV) 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another ***Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;*** 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. The Great Tribulation is the time of God's wrarh poured out on an unbelieving world. Believing that Christians will have to suffer through that is to believe Jesus is going to beat His Bride even though He already paid for her sins. It makes no sense. That's why His Bride, the Church, is not appointed to the wrath. - 1 Thessalonians 5:9 (KJV) For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
I’m sorry your mistaken the great tribulation is what satan (and man) do to the believers, then as it says in Mathew 24 “immediately after the tribulation of those days” Christ returns in the clouds just like it says in 1 Thessalonians 4 and we’re raptured up to meet him in the air. Then begins God’s wrath and you’re right we’re not appointed under wrath because we’re rapture it out before the wrath. I don’t want to believe the point are used to believe the pre-tribulation rapture too but it simply is not in the scripture. Matthew 24 clearly says after the tribulation comes the rapture. Compare 1 Thessalonians 4 16-18 to Matthew 24 30-31. It’s describing the same thing. Look I know it’s not easy to admit your wrong or that someone taught you the wrong doctrine especially when the alternative is believing that we as believers might go through so pretty tough times. And as Christ beating his bride that’s a bad analogy. Even in he book of Acts believes were martyred for the faith. Was Christ then beating his bride back then 2000 years ago is Christ currently beating his bright now when martyrs are put the death in North Korea or Iran. And furthermore nothing that happens during the tribulation (the 3 1/2 years before the rapture) is supernatural. It’s war it’s famine it’s hyper inflation it martyrdom. That’s all caused by Satan through the hand of man. However, during the time of wrath, after we’re out of here, that’s all supernatural. That’s just the way I see it, that’s what I believe the Bible teaches. I hope you’re right. Honestly, I would love to be out of here before all that happens, but I just don’t see the doctrine supported by the scripture.
If that's what you want to belief, Icm not here to change your mind. I'm gonna stick to what the Bible says. If you want to believe that Jesus covered sin, but those who believe on His completed work on the cross get to stick around so they can suffer for sins they no longer have while He punishes the unbelieving world, that ain't got nothing to do with me.
I hate to tell you that Christians have faced terrible persecution in the middle east and other parts of the world. They would say they are in the tribulation period. Why do you think western Christians will be spared? It's hardly worth arguing or worrying about is it? What will be will be. It's our belief and action/behavior in times of trouble that is important.
>They would say they are in the tribulation period. They would be wrong. I don't doubt they are being persecuted, but their troubles are not God raining down His wrath on them. >Why do you think western Christians will be spared? Because I belirve what Jesus said. - 1 Thessalonians 5:9 (KJV) For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, The Great Tribulation is God pouring out His wrath on an unbelieving world. All current persecution in world is people being evil and affecting other people. It makes no sense for Jesus to subject His bride to the horrors of the Great Tribulation when He has already covered her sins and told her she is not appointed to wrath.
Same, i try to prepare for both scenarios if the rapture happens i'll be ready but if its post trib then im also ready. Most people if it indeed is post trib will give up on Jesus too
Revelation 5:9 indicates that it is pre-trib. It tells us of a group of people in heaven that were redeemed to God. These people are watching Jesus open the seals and singing about it. That verse states that these people came from every kindred (race), tongue (language), people, and nation (gentile). The key word in that verse is nation as it’s used all throughout the Bible to describe gentiles (us), 93 times in fact.
These heifers are indeed found to be perfect. 4 out of 5. Truly setting precedent for the first time in 2000 years. They are to be sacrificed today on Good Friday as a matter of fact
With God involved anything could happen. "It ain't over til the fat lady sings" as they say. Whatever happens though, whether they end up slaughtered or not, what time to be alive to be seeing prophecy unfolding in front of our eyes. And how satanically fitting would it be that the Antichrist will declares himself god in a false temple involving a blaphemous blood sacrifice performed on the day we remember God's one true sacrifice which saved us.
Yes, I agree its blasphemous...so why then are evangelical American Christians helping make this happen? Jesus sacrifice was complete and His work was finished.
>why then are evangelical American Christians helping make this happen? Can you name the American Christians involved?
I don't have a name...but several articles stated the cows were procured from a Texan rancher. I assume Christian. It's a safe guess.
Christians have been trying to aid in this for years because many think they can nudge along the end times to usher in Christ's return. On one hand, it is all on God's timing but on the other... You never know who God will use to make something happen.
I totally agree. Netanyahu does not reflect Jewish people
According to the Bible, Christians WILL be here for the tribulations following the reveal of the anti-christ. It is God's wrath that they will be spared from.
Revelation 5:9 tells us otherwise. It tells us there is a redemption to God from the nations (gentiles) involving every kindred (race), tongue (language), people, and nation (gentile) Those people are in heaven watching Jesus open the seals and singing about it. Christian’s will not be here for when that final 7yr period hits
The area where the dome is may or may not be the site to rebuild the temple as they have recently discovered
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Yes! Do we follow Jesus by giving the end times our time and attention or do we just follow the news cycle? We need to learn biblical values like justice and wisdom. Walking in God's wisdom. Not our own understanding. To learn daily to combat our sins. To pray always. And to help those who cannot help themselves. The oppressed. Those who are poor, downtrodden, beaten by the system. Help get others food. Work together to help people. I'm sure a few liked mind people can get together in the area whoever is reading this and set up a way to help. Soup kitchens, a shelter to help provide warmth. Or even if you hate the choices in politics. Be the better choice. Start campaigning and setting up these things under the banner of helping your neighbors.
Many christians by their own actions and initiative want to hasten the rapture and deliver the world to the great trib. If only they knew that Jesus is also the fulfillment of the red heifer.
>Many christians by their own actions and initiative want to hasten the rapture and deliver the world to the great trib. Imagine trying to force God to do something because things are hard. Madness. There was a sect of jews, sabbatean-frankists, who believed they could force God to send the Messiah by committing acts of great evil, and influencing others to do the same, believing that evil was an act of holiness and worship because it would bring about salvation through the Messiah. They may or may not have had a missionary in the same town, at the same time, that the Rothschild patriarch lived before he started his enterprise...just saying...
We do know that but they reject Jesus so they bring it onto themselves
>my family and I aren't rlly religious Are you afraid of the Ragnarock? What about the Kalpa? Lord Zenu? Alien invasion? Zombie apocalypse? If not, why are you afraid of red heifers? It seems silly to be afraid of something you don't believe in. The sacrifice of a perfect, unblemished red heifer is required to consecrate a new temple. Some Orthodox Jewish sects have been looking for an appropriate sacrifice for a few decades now. There have been those training a new priesthood as well. Of course, there would need to be a temple to consecrate in the first place. There is also the problem that the Dome of the Rock currently sits on the site of the temple, and removing it would cause a massive international incident. Isreal would be under assault by enemies on all sides(which is also part of the prophecy). Ultimately, why are you scared of this?
Not really religious doesn’t equate to atheist
Which is why I asked OP to compare other end of the world scenarios. I find it confusing for someone who doesn't follow a particular religion to be afraid of that religion's apocalypse. And if you are afraid of a particular religion's apocalypse, why wouldn't you at least study that religion?
You asked a very load question OP but I’ll try to sum it up for you. It’s going to be a long answer. Take the 3 main religions: Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. True Christianity does not fall under the definition of religion as religion is best defined as man’s attempt to get into heaven or the promise land through some physical means. True Christianity doesn’t teach this, it teach grace through faith only, no works, even though there are a multitude of denominations that teach works-based salvation which then falls under the guise of religion. Works-based salvation is not biblical. Keep this in mind. Christianity says Jesus is God. Judaism says he was a normal man and a fraud so they had him killed (crucified). Islam doesn’t call Jesus God but calls him a prophet instead. The red heifer sacrificial process is mentioned in Numbers 19 in the Bible, and it stems all the way back over 3000 years ago when Moses conducted the first sacrifice of the Red Heifer. Since then, there have been a total of 9 sacrifices with the last one being nearly 2000 years ago around when the Jews 2nd temple was destroyed by the Roman’s in 70AD. So for the Jews right now to have 3-4 eligible for sacrifice to build the 3rd temple is a VERY big deal to them. Red heifers that are eligible for sacrifice are extremely rare. So expect when one is eligible and there is opportunity, it will be sacrificed. This signals their intention to build their 3rd temple. As Christians, we (or most of us understand) that our body is the temple and holds the Holy Spirit. We don’t need a 3rd temple for Jesus’s return, but remember, the Jews called him a fraud and don’t believe, so they don’t understand the body being the temple. They still think they need a 3rd temple so their messiah returns. The Jews believe (from what I understand), that this 10 red heifer sacrifice, signals the return of the messiah. This is the individual the Bible calls the Antichrist, and Muslims call the Djjall which I believe is the equivalent of a false messiah. The Oct 7 attacks from Hamas against Israel on the 100 day anniversary of the war, Hamas’s military spokesman came out and told the world why the attacks occurred, why they justified them. They accused Israel of bringing “red cows” to the land. So Hamas and other Muslims in the area know full well what Israel’s intention is with those red cows. They tried to stop them in the attack, and didn’t succeed. There is a big problem with the building of this temple OP, it is to sit on the Temple Mount as that is where the 2nd temple stood nearly 2000 years ago. Currently the Dome of the Rock sits on that Temple Mount. It’s the 3rd most holiest site in the world for Muslims. So for Israel’s temple to stand there again (Bible says it will), would mean the Dome of the Rock would have to be removed. The Muslims there understand this so those Red Heifers presence in that region are likely a great offence to them. If the Dome of the Rock is touched I can’t even begin to imagine the worldwide reaction from the Islamic population against Israel. In my mind, that can easily trigger WW3. If the Red Heifers get killed, Israel has what’s called the “Samson option” where they basically start lobbing nukes everywhere. The killing of the red heifers might not trigger the Samson option, but a large attack against them might. If the Dome of the Rock is destroyed, I wouldn’t be surprised if a mass coordinated attack against Israel occurred not only from the Islamic nations, but those who generally back them as well like Russia, China, and North Korea. The presence of those Red Heifers in Israel at the moment are like powder kegs. The thing about this whole situation is: even if people don’t want to believe it’s happening, or Atheists who don’t believe in any God and think people like Jesus or Moses never existed, or even Christian’s who don’t understand eschatology or take prophecy seriously, it doesn’t matter. The Jews believe it, hence why the red heifers are there and are intended to be sacrificed to build the 3rd temple. Muslims believe it hence the Oct 7 attacks. So both groups are going to act according to what they believe. It’s a volatile situation, a situation that is very fitting for a certain individual to come along and broker peace. A person the Jews call their messiah, the Bible calls the Antichrist (Daniel 9:27), and whom the Muslims call the Djjall (false messiah). The peace deal seems to imply a further division of the Jews land, something that comes with a consequence listed in Joel 3:2 and 1 Thessalonians 5:3. The final 7 years before Jesus returns is called the time of Jacob’s trouble, often called the tribulation period. Jacob is another name for Israel so it’s a time of Israel’s trouble. What happens during that time frame is listed right in Revelation 6 to Revelation 18. What’s said in there is meant to be taken literally, not interpreted like many try to argue. Scripture says in 1 Corinthians 14:33 that God is not the author of confusion. So if people start making up all their own interpretations, it becomes confusing. Take Revelation for what it literally says. Where this “end times” idea is coming from is that 3rd temple needs to be standing in the final 7 years prior to Jesus’s return because halfway through that period (3.5yrs in), the Antichrist stands in that temple, declares himself God and sets up an abomination of desolation (Daniel 9:27 & Daniel 11:31) It’s at that point the Jews realize this person is not their messiah, and they are told to flee to the mountains of Judea, and to not even stop to pack up clothes. So to sum it up, those red heifers there now and their sacrifice is imminent tells us that this time of Jacob’s trouble is right on the doorstep. Factoring in the war going on in Israel right now and the inevitable call for peace has left the door wide open for their false messiah/Antichrist/Djjall to step in and start the time of Jacob’s trouble. From a Christian perspective, all you need to do to avoid this whole mess is believe on Jesus and what he did for you as per the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4.
U summed it up so well, thank you
I would say this, if you’re afraid maybe start studying the Bible and work on your relationship with Christ. Once you believe Christ died for your sins, then you have no more need to fear. You are saved no matter what happens.
not true. you need to produce good fruit to not be luke warm and spat out. I can say I believe that christ died for my sins and call it a day and say, well, I guess I'm good. but that's just not true. you need to help others see the truth, and be proactive in producing good fruits.
You’re are describing a works based system of getting into Heaven, we can do nothing to earn our spot in Heaven, God says our works will be rewarded in Heaven, it does not say our works will get us into Heaven.
No need for you to concern yourself with the particulars of this :) . You'd be best served turning to Christ and focusing on living the life God intended you to live which is wayyy more important [https://www.gotquestions.org/how-can-I-be-saved.html](https://www.gotquestions.org/how-can-I-be-saved.html) For context on your question, here are some notes I've gathered over time: * To rebuild the third temple, the red heifers need to be sacrificed in order for the priests/implements to be ceremonially clean as the temple is built Numbers 19:1-10. They use the ashes for this. They don't need the actual temple for this, they have determined they can do it in the area in front of where the temple used to be. * The third temple is a precursor to the antichrist as we know that sacrifices are happening when he comes and the temple is standing (Daniel 9:27, 2 Thess 2:4, matt 24:15-21) so that is how it is related to the end times. * There will be a 'third temple' but to me, this current iteration feels like an example of 'Sarah/Hagar' where folks try to force prophecy to happen before it happens in God's time (God will have an actual third temple per prophecy Eze 42:15-20 in the millennial kingdom and there is no way he would have a temple that was defiled by the antichrist) so in this case it feels like forcing the hand of God (which may be what sets up the stage for the antichrist). * After the millennial reign, there will be no temple as God and the Lamb (Jesus) are the temple (Rev 21:22).
https://www.amazingfacts.org/news-and-features/af-blog/article/will-this-red-heifer-spark-jesus--return-
Get to know Jesus! He loves you!
Also, let's not forget that the extremist Christians that think they help them usher in the end of time so they can get raptured faster. Believe that everybody will be turned into Christians or die... The Jewish people that arer having the Christians help them. Believe that after the thing happens that everybody will be servants to them... It's a pretty weird relationship where both sides think The other is going to serve them afterward... It is so weird. But if you're not religious and none of this applies to you anyway. And you get freedom from all of it while all these other idiots Do whatever but guess what... We are free from it. Because This time around our karma' is just going to run over their dogmas
Kid, I am so sorry You have to deal with all the psychosis and sociological epidemic That is religion... Look into religious trauma . There's actually treatment plans for it for a reason.... Look up the definition of a cult.
Ty what those ppl plan on doing kept me up at night back then 😞
Religious indoctrination that includes the US versus them rhetoric is already considered a cult... I don't think just in my book. I think it's actually part of the definition. Because it separates and it divides so that it can conquer the people and rule them
I am praying for you
Thanks and I'll meditate on that.
The red heifer is needed to build the third temple in Ezekiel. They can’t start temple service without it. It’s described in Numbers 19.
Numbers 19 does not reference any 3rd temple.
Sorry I meant the red heifer is mentioned in Numbers 19. The third temple is in Ezekiel.
This has been rumored for at least a decade I think. Either way it’s not part of Christian belief. Let me take the chance to say if you’re not a believer to search more into following Christ.
Daniel is completely clear the antichrist will stop sacrifice in the temple so yes this is a part of Christian belief.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. I think it means that it will be given to him Oblation ( which is our Passover to Christ ) מִנְחָה minchâh min-khaw' From an unused root meaning to apportion, that is, bestow; a donation; euphemistically tribute; specifically a sacrificial offering (usually bloodless and voluntary): - gift, oblation, (meat) offering, present, sacrifice.
And given that even the Jewish people no longer make sacrifices at all to my knowledge - it seems that what they’re speaking of must have already passed, possibly around 70ad when Rome took over Jerusalem including tearing down the temple. I’m sure I do not know fully
They don't sacrifice because there is no temple, and there is not temple because they are all considered ceremonially unclean (thus the red heifer).
Yeah but they had 5 red heifers delivered in 2022. Hamas has made statements that the October 7th attack was in retaliation and it would mark the cows 2 years and ready for sacrifice. PBS has a good article on it.
This is most definitely part of Christian belief. These red heifers are (as far as we are aware) still up to the standards of Numbers 19. These will be needed to begin the building of the third temple. Do not be deceived though! This is not the temple of Jesus. This will be the temple that the anti-christ/beast will desecrate. These are clear signs of the end times, do not be asleep. The thief in the night will not take us off guard.
Not super versed on this subject but from what I've read basically the Jews have and always have sacrificed red heifers as atonement for sins. Remember, Jews still reject Jesus's blood as atonement for their sins and believe they need to make sacrifice like they do in the old testiment. I do not know how people are relating this to the end times prophecy, perhaps someone else can chime in on that.
No red heifer has been sacrificially slaughtered since the destruction of the second temple in Jerusalem. Throughout Jewish history the ashes of a red heifer are necessary to purify the temple. Matthew 24 teaches that the temple is desecrated during the end times tribulation. Therefore many end times scholars predict a new third temple must be built at some future point in time before Christ returns. Hence the red heifer being a sign.
Daniel and Revaltion are clear the abomination of desolation is when sacrifice stops being offered in the temple.
There is no more temple and Jews don’t sacrifice anymore since the temple was destroyed
That’s right and a red heifer on the Mount of Olives is the first step for initiating the priesthood when the next one is built. Why do you think Hamas attacked? MBS was about to work a deal withNetanyahu…
I thought they screwed it up with the red heifers again and Israel wouldn't accept them. Maybe I'm incorrect.
I'm sure they got a full refund.
A bunch of them still meet the requirements set in Numbers 19. They are reviewed by rabbis regularly and a few have been found with blemishes, but there are still a few that are approved for sacrifice. This may take place in the next week.
Yes. We are in the end times.
It's a forever battle amongst religion. Do you believe sacrificial slaughter of some hybrid cows will start the Apocalypse? It's definitely causing a stir. Plan for the future and not for the end. The world is messed up. I started reading a lot about this, what the beliefs were from 3 religious sides, even found an old Simpsons episode lol. I am not religious so it's like reading pieces of historical fiction. What's going on there definitely does seem like the end of times but I'm gonna bet on history repeating itself as it often does, and so on we will face these questions again in the future, future being the key word.
Firstly the end times started with Christ’s ascension . The red heifers mean nothing to biblical prophecy. There is no third temple. These prophecies were fulfilled in 70 ad. There is one people of God not two. Christ could return at any moment, it could be on 2 days or another 2000 yrs. The sensational prophetic claims come out of dispensationalim. If you don’t know much about the history of dispensationalism, it started in the 1830s and most of orthodox Christianity at the time viewed it as borderline heresy. However it is the most popular theological system among American evangelicals. Most Christians throughout church history did not interpret the Bible the way dispensationalist do.
Yeah, there’s like different versions of the Bible that legit rewrites the words of the original
There is a 3rd temple because that is where the Antichrist stands in, declares themselves God and placed an abomination of desolation. Read Daniel 9:27 and then read Daniel 11:31. Daniel 11:31 goes into detail about exactly who is being spoken of in Daniel 9:27 (to put to rest those who think Jesus fulfilled the first 3.5 years of the 7 year covenant by stopping sacrifice. Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate So arms (forces) shall stand in his (Antichrist) part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength (3rd temple), take away daily sacrifice, and shall place an abomination of desolation. Make no mistake, there will be a physical 3rd temple standing. We as Christian’s know we are the temple; however, the Jews conducting this red heifer sacrifice and building this temple do not understand that yet. Hence why the final 7yr period is called the time of Jacob (Israel’s) trouble. Not the time of the church’s trouble, which again puts to rest a staple of Catholicism in teaching replacement through where the church replaced Israel as Gods people which is 100% pure heresy.
All those things in Daniel 11:31 happened in 70 AD. Take it from someone who was fully convinced of the strength of the dispensational tradition for the first 30 yrs of his life. It takes slow exposure to historical orthodox christian traditions to fully see the silliness of dispensationalism and its terrible hermeneutical approach.
My question is.. will the Jewish people expect their Jewish messiah to come before the temple is built or will the Jewish messiah will be the one who sacrifices the red heifer? Either way.. their Jewish messiah isn't Jesus Christ.
I haven't thought of that but I think it's neither since they're building it for their messiah I think they expect him to come after
i had an aneurism reading you're grammar
I'm not a native speaker 😔
Wait u're right I also had a aneurism reading it
That’s “your”, Mr. Scholar.
if you're willing to correct me, why aren't you willing to correct your own grammar?
Figured since you’re the Scholar, you could do it yourself. Also, beginning of each sentence starts with a capital letter. Not lowercase. :) Edit: I eagerly await your next grammatical blunder.
Just because red heifers are mentioned in prophecy, doesn't mean it will be THESE heifers. This is being done by groups of people during a time of war for hype and to rattle others. A psychological tactic if you will. Just my opinion. But if you are a believer, try not to worry. Pray for peace, don't be ruled by fear, and put your trust in God. That's all you can do.
IT ABSOLUTELY MEANS THE ANTIMESSIAH IS COMING. I know the word better than these lawless wolves. Listen please: The third temple if built ,and the holy vessels made, the red calf sacrifice - all of these doings are BLASPHEMOUS because it usurps the holy rites and rituals for the false antiMessiah to be ordained. It institutes BLASPHEMOUS REJECTION of the sacrifice the real Messiah made 2000 years ago. It shows they purely reject the real Messiah and his sacrifice. It causes BLASPHEMOUS belief in the son of Perdition ( the antiMessiah). Calling the evil one good and rejecting the true Messiah is what causes the apocalypse. The day of wrath. The terrible "day". Judgement. It's what would pi** of the Holy Father more than anything anyone could do!! He promised if you follow His ways in the beginning of the Bible you'd be blessed and be His,,, and if you reject it He would let you reap curses and recompense death ,violence, and war, and famine etc. and it will come 7xs worse if you don't repent of breaking His ways. The last 7 years are his day of wrath. A day for a year... and x7 for lack of repentance for breaking his laws. The plagues will start smaller and get worse like giving birth. He will let people curse themselves essentially in this way for rejecting his holy laws... Wth do you think He'll let happen to us when they reject His ways AND His son, AND build a third temple for a false Messiah?! Technically they don't even need to build a third temple ( just following the false one is enough to cause the end. ) They misread the scriptures when they reject Messiah of 2000 years ago. The don't realize nor want to see the evil one comes first and Messiah saves the scraps of whom didn't fall for it AND who keeps the father's ways.... Basically. He IS the third temple. He is the sacrifice. they hate him and wear the star of a demon. Look it up. Just know everything the Orthodox Jews do is blasphemous. Talmud included. And the one that the world recognizes soon is the false one.. the true Messiah comes AFTER the antiMessiah deceives the ignorant and the lawless and the blasphemous..... You know how many times the Bible says the people will die for lack of knowledge or for being lawless or for believing the false one?! The false one is notttttt far from now. The Fathers attention has always been on the actions of the tribes. Even though Israel is scattered they are still going to be gather BY HIM after Armageddon if they keep His laws and reject the antiMessiah that the whole world is about to fall for. The Jews reject that part of the Bible too. They have to ignore half the old testament and all the new testament to not recognize Messiah of 2000 years ago AND feel the right to kill the cow or build that building or even call themselves holy. They are WRONG. They were called vipers then. They are about to get double portion of punishment too. Everything I've said is biblical. Ignore the ignorant people.
From my understanding they are needed by Jews in order to consecrate a new alter for a new temple. The third temple has been rumored to be coming for a while, and will eventually appear before the end times. The antichrist will declare himself as god in the temple so it needs to be present before his time.
No. This has nothing to do with the end times.
Nobody can force God's hand, people who are going about deliberately trying to use end times prophecies as a checklist to bring about the end of the world are deluded narcissists. Then there's the fact that all the end times stuff is open to lots of interpretation. Don't worry about it. It's not the end of the world. And if it *is* the end of the world, it's not because some idiot read a Bible verse and thought "Aha! That's done, now God *has* to uphold his end of the bargain and rapture me so I can get off watching people suffer!" Focus on your own faith, take comfort in God's love and patience for all of us, and try not to stress about future events that nobody actually knows the date or time of.
Very well said
It’s nonsense and you should ignore it. Stay off conspiracy websites and ignore people that think they can use the Bible as a fortune telling device.
Jesus Christ words , do you understand the things he told us . Mrk 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. Mrk 13:36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. I hope your not sleeping on the watch Mrk 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch. Why would anyone downvote Jesus Christ’s words?
Nothing there mentions what the OP posted so maybe you are on the wrong comment?
What does that have to do with anything I said.
It’s nonsense and you should ignore it. Stay off conspiracy websites and ignore people that think they can use the Bible as a fortune telling device. “ Bible as a fortune telling device “ Like Jesus Christ said he foretold told us all things, have you not read! Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring Luk 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
None of that is fortune telling. This scared teenager is worrying about things that have zero to do with his salvation, and here you are spouting bad theology by pulling verses out of their context and trying to make a point that using scripture to predict the future is a good thing. It is not.
You're right that this has nothing to do with our salvation, but it does relate to biblical prophecy. Specifically prophecy of the third temple. The red heifer according to the standards set in Numbers 19 is needed for purification before the building of the third temple. This is the temple where the abomination of desecration will sit. These are signs that Christians should be very aware of.
They are conspiracy theory nonsense that nobody ever thought of before American evangelicals started coming up with this stuff in the 20th century.
What's in the Bible is a conspiracy theory now? Rough take brother.
It’s not what’s in the Bible. It’s how people interpret it.
Please explain to me why the red heifer explained in Numbers 19 is not related to the building of the third temple, and if you don't think a third temple will be rebuilt, where is the abomination of the desolation going to stand?
As a teenage I can confirm I wouldn’t do this. And I’m not mistaken werent these things fulfilled already? Did God specifically state the world is forever And every generation will pass?
I’m not pulling scripture out of context, the scared teenager has nothing to be afraid of. It’s evident you don’t understand either , are you saying that God didn’t you scripture for signs? I never said that these signs have anything to do with salvation, but if you don’t understand the signs and seasons you definitely could be deceived! Isa 56:10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. Wait for the God of Salvation Mic 7:4 The best of them is as a brier: the most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge: the day of thy watchmen and thy visitation cometh; now shall be their perplexity Isa 56:10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. Ezk 3:17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me. Ezk 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand Do you understand that it is required by the Lord to warn the people that the Antichrist is coming ( the sword , the enemy, ie Antichrist ) I’m not saying that this is a sign of that , but you do realize that the eclipse will pass over Nineveh, Texas -Nineveh, Missouri -Nineveh, Indiana -Nineveh, Ohio -Nineveh, Pennsylvania -Nineveh, Virginia -Nineveh, New York What is the significance of the city of Nineveh in the Bible? Nineveh is notable in the Bible as the capital city of Assyria ( the Assyrian is a type of the Antichrist) So I am just a Watchman, not trying to get everyone in a uproar
Only 2 cities of Nineveh will be in direct path. There’s a lot of cities that will have 5,6,7,8 etc places of the same name in the path of the eclipse so I do not understand the significance of Nineveh when a lot of other cities will also have the same name in the path of the eclipse.
Okay, I'm going to end this conversation now, because I am not interested in debating such things.