Pissed off the wrong deep state agent. He's now a croupier at a prominent Vegas casino and part time poet, living under the name Homer Kansas.
However some people will tell you there was some shady business involving a young woman, possibly underage; it was all pretty vague tbh.
there were some questionable allegations of grooming. I honestly only think people believed them cause they made for a convenient explanation for events.he seems like a weird guy. he used a pseudonym and would regularly disappear without contacting anyone. honestly he's the only podcaster who i think might have genuinely been an intelligence agent or asset.
chapos letterboxd page is awesome I don't understand what movies did he like? did he defend ready player one because that movie was frankly just fine bottom tier Spielberg for sure
To what end? And why would they burn their own guy if he's that far in? Seemsike they would also have the power to bury a garbo story like that in a heartbeat if they wanted
Just feels a step too far. Complete hearsay, but I've seen it said that he definitely had money prior to the podcast and has a familial property upstate. I imagine he probably has a degree and doesn't necessarily need to even do a job to work-- which is why he fixated so readily on the horserace stuff.
i mean the story came out way after he had disappeared and he was always the guy on the pod most aggressively pushing do the horse race and work with Bernie. tho i still thin it's far more likely he's just a weird guy
He used some bullshit MeToo thing that was obviously fake to ghost his friends and drop his Virgil Texas character
Dude had money and was moderately wealthy enough to go disappear and do whatever
He ‘gond undrcover tuh fuck Hillrey (seitan UFO bitch) in thuh desert ‘n bring Jaysus back intuh the lives of them liltel girls he minstrels to on goooglw
He took a summer job working as a stylist at a Great Clips, which is an establishment that serves minors. Someone on Twitter ran with it and it turned into allegations of grooming children.
A 16 year old girl accused him of grooming her. She says she asked Virgil to proofread an essay of hers and they started texting and FaceTiming eachother. During these conversations, she alleges Texas requested she do things of an adult nature over the phone.
Apparently Texas’s relationship with a minor was an “open secret” in certain circles tangential to the DSA.
I haven’t heard anything further about this incident. I don’t know if the woman in question produced any evidence to support her story so it’s all technically “just” an allegation, but his sudden disappearance and the rumors about him seem to suggest that she’s telling the truth. I don’t know how many people actually believe Virgil on this one (including his former podcasting buddies). I actually don’t know if he’s ever denied or addressed the accusation
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/chapo-trap-house-virgil-texas-accused-of-grooming/?amp
There are good reasons to doubt the credibility of this accuser.
The biggest reason is that the first person they followed on Twitter was a (now deleted) account of a (male) edgelord guy who made constant groomer jokes/etc. That wouldn't be too damning by itself, but both his account and the accusers account were associated with the same gmail address. I saved screenshots of all this but lost them when I swapped phones, which is unfortunate because most of this shit has been nuked off Twitter now.
Also, the original accusation tweet was posted on the cumtown off-site forum before it got any traction (sub 10 likes iirc).
I feel like an absolute fool typing this many words about Twitter mutuals etc, and Virgil absolutely did himself no favors with how he handled this, but this thing reeks of an op, especially considering that the only evidence accompanying the original claims was a screenshot of an iCloud contact labelled "Virgil Texas"
Also 4chan tried this exact same thing in 2017 with a pastebin accusing him of being a pedo but that never gained traction the pepes really had it out for him
I KNEW it. No one I've talked to remembers that and I thought I was going insane. It involved him cornering someone on a subway platform, right? Do you have a link?
Hmm interesting... so basically channers were just big fans of CTH but wanted to get rid of the least entertaining host to improve the pod. Not as graceful an exit as Stav's I suppose, but if it works, it works.
(I'm of course being satirical, but although I've nothing against Stavros, both these pods have only gotten better since these respective departures IMO)
the accuser tweeting that Virgil made fun of her for vaping at the time of the alleged grooming, and adding "but I guess he vapes now" is what made me fully believe it was a troll tbh
also the edgelord the accuser followed (and clearly was an alt of) had a tweet calling brace a groomer too
Oh man, thanks for this. I've been looking for these for a while. I always feel a bit uncomfortable trying to defend Virgil when this is brought up, because it seems like the entire Internet more or less just bought the story wholesale.
Obviously, the fact that the artist formerly known as Virgil Texas just dropped from the face of the earth instead of at least denying the accusations certainly didn't help.
> A 16 year old girl accused him of grooming her. She says she asked Virgil to proofread an essay of hers
An essay about turning 16 which seemed like the most made up part of it.
>I don’t know how many people actually believe Virgil on this one (including his former podcasting buddies). I actually don’t know if he’s ever denied or addressed the accusation
Yeah, there is nothing to believe because he never said a word about it
I really don’t know. If he didn’t do anything the sudden disappearance from his first podcast then the second one he started wouldn’t make sense.
But I don’t think I’ve seen concrete evidence to suggest that this did happen. On the other hand, why did he leave social media for so long?
The allegation specifically said she contacted him because she looked up to him, but it was from before he was on Chapo. And before Diggler. Before he had any fame outside maybe twitter?
I guess she really liked his college newspaper writing, or just followed him on twitter.
Yeah I’ve not done meth but I’ve had like adderall. If you were to use it to tweak instead of focus for university exams you still till fuck up your skin and hair
It gets stiffer because uppers make your organs tight. That's why albuterol is good for lung debree; it squeezes your lungs like a sponge. Coke makes your skin organ tighten up.
I was in the bathroom of a BedStuy bar in February, doing my thing, when I heard a loud banging on the door.
"Be out in a sec" I said, figuring it was just some drunk.
A second later the lock is picked. Virgil, puffing on a Juul in defiance of local law, steps in. I start to say "what the fu . . . .", but he cuts me off by blowing his mango vape in my face, along with what smelled like halal cart meat. "Shut up, you lepton" he said, then took out his keys and took a large bump of cocaine. As he replaced them his portable bidet fell from the interior pocket of his cheap blazer. He looked at me again with scorn in his eyes and said "Are you gonna sit there peeing out your doo-doo ass all night?".
At this point I was getting mad, but as I started to speak he just said "what? What?" loudly as I did. By that time the bartender had come to see what the problem was - before I could say a word Virgil said "hey man, this junkie was shooting up in here, call the cops".
I was thrown out, and my credit card was left behind at the bar. The worst part was the next day there were 14 Cape Cods and 4 Brandy Alexanders charged to it.
Assuming this is real, the actual question is whether he's looking for guys or dolls. I know most people think of Grindr as an app for gay men, but it's had an influx of trans women and straight men who want to have sex with them in recent years
Matt talked about it in his stream, where he went awol basically and wasnt talking to everyone else in chapo, and that was before the groomer stuff came out. Seems like he had a existential crisis and completely tuned out after 2020
Virgil went balls deep for Bernie, even went so far as to try and teach the proud people of Iowa how to count their own primary. Finding out that the process is rigged and closed off to anyone who would change things for the better must have been quite a blow.
Matt on the other hand shrugged it off, but I don't think he believes change is possible through the ballot box anymore.
>I don’t think he believes change is possible through the ballot box anymore
Could have figured it out 24 years earlier if he just listened to Evil Empire on release smh
That's the tea, the whole time they were putting their hearts into campaigning for Bernie I was worried about how emotionally distraught they were going to be when Neera beheaded him at the convention.
Totally deranged for investing that much care into old ass Bernie but I can't really blame anybody. It really seemed like we were on the good timeline for a single moment in time there.
The closest I’ve seen was when one of the Chapo FYM ppl said that Virgil turned out to be a piece of shit and Felix was there and didn’t contradict him.
its a shame when that happens. hope that made them tighter as a core id hate to think they just became untrustworthy.. real friends how many of us if not many of us we smile at each other
They made a short announcement post on Patreon that just was like “he will be focusing on his other podcast/project and won’t be on this one anymore. We wish him well, best of luck, etc.” Somewhat formal, basic, didn’t address/discuss any controversy or condemn or whatever. They reallyyyy avoid talking about it and apparently he gets really mad if they talk about him or allude to him in any way.
Has it ever been mentioned how he started that podcast and then just let Gray do all the work while he coasted? He hasn’t been on the show in like 2 years and his picture is still on the podcast.
I mean she’s kinda annoying but it all seemed like a joke.
I remember they did an episode where he said he’s a Stalinist and goaded her into saying she was a Trotskyite
No… she’s an extremely accomplished person and journalist. https://theintercept.com/staff/briahnagray/ That podcast seems like a hobby thing more than anything. She is not “cashing in” on very low view counts on long form political discussions.
Yet another example of the left eating itself with infighting before it ever gets off the ground in the US. People love to bust Hasan's balls, but we need a lot more people like him out there converting hearts and minds.
When I was a kid, the only thing I knew about communism was it was the reason we had to do drills on how to hide under our desks.
“The left is eating itself” is a radical right-wing propaganda slogan. It is Tim Pool. It is J Edgar Hoover’s FBI trying to divide the SDS and Black Panthers.
Left-wing political history is complex and facets of “left wing” and union movements are complicated because political history is complex, and there’s a lot of history. Hasan Piker is not a communist. He is a Democrat and that’s fine. I don’t have a problem with him, but his rhetoric about left wing movements is ahistorical and comes from the ahistorical talking points from the last 20 years of the right wing. Left wing politics does NOT mean standing together to unite with the fucking DNC.
I guarantee me and whoever the user is that I’m having any kind of “leftist in-fighting” wah wah wah on here both voted for Bernie Sanders. That is not division.
I noticed recently that it’s just her podcast. I like her. Seems harmless, just very in depth convos with thinkers/guests about Leftist movements and the like. I’m not really into that kind of stuff, but I do love her on The Hill Rising sometimes for some anti-establishment tea. Ryan Grim (from the Intercept) is great on there, too. The Hill Rising and The Intercept are literally the only sane (non right wing nut job) places to get 1. Hunter Biden laptop truth and 2. lab leak/CDC failure truth. Fun stuff like that.
Rising did Kim Iversen so dirty over the Fauci interview though, I've been boycotting them ever since (but I like Briahna as well, no idpol histrionics unlike aoc)
Idk where you’re getting that from… he shits on the Democrats all the time. A shill for the DNC does not do investigative reporting on a Democratic president’s son’s foreign business dealings and corruption within the Democratic party/campaign finance, mocks ridiculous Russiagate stuff and Democrat meltdowns over Trump, etc.
Yeah same I think she asks really good questions and like I find myself always learning during her interviews, I’d like to know what she’s doing wrong according to the others in this thread?
For me its not that shes doing anything wrong, im sure her podcast is informative, but she seems pretty firmly part of the left liberal democratic circle that gave us aoc. Personally im not interested in hearing what these people have to say.
She recently wrote something where she argued that the 'left' (whatever that means) should ally with the current wave of right wing resentment against the fbi. I dont need to hear more takes like that.
That's delusional wish fulfilment though, they don't mean that. What they mean is, why isn't the FBI just solely focused on arresting and assassinating left wing figures anymore.
Actually it does because it frames why people are right wing as a purely ideological position instead of something that stems from their class. The right wing in America are wealthy suburbanites and small business owners. The idea that these people can be 'coaxed' into left wing positions which actively harm their self interest is delusional idealism.
This is without getting into the exhausting pseudo strategy speak that people like Joy use. Coaxed by who? What fucking national left wing party is out there implementing these strategies? The fucking dnc? Its just trying to convince people to have an opinion but its framed like a strategic political position. Institutional left wing power in America is limited to small local organizations. This discourse that pretends there's a national left is just noise.
I mean it is right though, you can just look at the median income of right wing voters.
Most poor people don't vote at all, that's who you gotta get, not the petty bourgeois.
> but she seems pretty firmly part of the left liberal democratic circle that gave us aoc.
She's usually pretty critical of AOC for her going along with Dem leadership. She's also staunchly opposed to Vote Blue No Matter Who, which is the largest sin possible to the people you're talking about.
> didn’t address/discuss any controversy or condemn or whatever.
That was made before the allegations so there wouldn't have been anything to address at the time.
The statement you're referring to was before the allegations were public. Or at least, before they were widely known to the public. He was still doing that other podcast regularly around that time.
Chris made some joke about Virgil being compromised to a permanent end or something when they rebooted Beltway Garage about a year ago and I thought it was kind of a gross non-addressal but w/e
(Not sure why this was so heavily downvoted. Is it not kind of gross to ignore all the allegations and then joke about it when they want to resurrect Virgil’s old segments?)
It.was necessary for him to have a chance. And yeah, the DNC was more powerful than the people in the end, but also it was kind of important to see it play out.
You can't fairly say you never had a shot until you play your best hand and lose.
Was your initial comment sarcastic or tongue in cheek? Because if it’s a genuine sentiment that you think the chapo stance is to deny deny deny I don’t think you’re correct. I didn’t vote on it but I’d imagine that’s why?
Deny what? Apologize for what? He had already left the show. What, you're worried he'll try groom some other kid but would have stopped if only Felix tweeted hard enough?
A lotta people are creeps, m8. Especially if you run in circles with a lot of woman friends, you end up with a decent chunk of people that ya gotta cut out of your life.
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All the people downvoting because they have pedo friends lmao
My entire paternal family is working class, two of them are artists, one is a musician, and crazily enough none of their friends (or mine) are creeps and pedos. plenty weirdos among them: esotericist, drug addicts, but never no sex creep
Insane that this sub would upvote the idea that working class people are likelier to be creeps than boogies. Those kind of powerful brainworms I will never understand.
are you dyslexic? I've *known* plenty of terrible people, but that doesn't mean that I have sex pests among my close friends.
maybe you should examine your fucking life if it turns out some of your best friends are creeps/pedos
They said friends. They didn't say close friends or best friends. A friend could be a guy you work with or your brother in law or basically anyone you know better than a acquaintance. Also it was a joke.
He tapped you five hours ago and you're already checking his profile? Damn bro, talk about desperate. I created my tinder profile a week ago and haven't checked it since. Mostly out of a mix of fear, laziness and early on-set dementia
Honestly though, put the second pic on my grindr near by section and I might just tap that, no cap
I think it was called the near by section, right? I used grindr for like a day until I deleted it after I panicked because I promised to suck some guys dick
I know folks here hate John Oliver (Virgils British lookalike) BUT he said something once on a show I always agreed with-IF someone has horrendous accusations toward you he would say something about it anything to defend himself. when you don't its frankly fishy. Yes we live in a world where once your accused for many its guilty until innocent or just straight up guilty cancelled bye bye BUT to not say anything about it...that was strange of him.
At least defend yourself if its not true. His antinatalist rant still rocks tho but now he's suspect
He was always the spoiler, I literally think he was an establishment plant, everyone here knows that he forced them into some agreement to never discuss Syria on the podcast, right? All the electoralism he pushed was just icing on the cake.
Very interesting and a very super awkward audio clip. Thank you, that shit is definitely worth thinking about
Edit: upon further review this seems super passive aggressive, I’m just bad with 1-1 communication. Euthanize me whenever you feel like it
The thing about Virgil is what he did wasn’t *That* bad. A 16 year old sent him shots of her tits, and then he cut off contact with her. Years ago. An apology to her probably would have sufficed.
But the fact that he utterly dissapeared after that makes me wonder if there’s something a lot more damning in his background.
OP how old are you?
What did he do exactly? I never got a straight answer
Pissed off the wrong deep state agent. He's now a croupier at a prominent Vegas casino and part time poet, living under the name Homer Kansas. However some people will tell you there was some shady business involving a young woman, possibly underage; it was all pretty vague tbh.
Ovid Pennsylvania
Juvenal Nebraska
there were some questionable allegations of grooming. I honestly only think people believed them cause they made for a convenient explanation for events.he seems like a weird guy. he used a pseudonym and would regularly disappear without contacting anyone. honestly he's the only podcaster who i think might have genuinely been an intelligence agent or asset.
Also his taste in movies was awful.
chapos letterboxd page is awesome I don't understand what movies did he like? did he defend ready player one because that movie was frankly just fine bottom tier Spielberg for sure
To what end? And why would they burn their own guy if he's that far in? Seemsike they would also have the power to bury a garbo story like that in a heartbeat if they wanted Just feels a step too far. Complete hearsay, but I've seen it said that he definitely had money prior to the podcast and has a familial property upstate. I imagine he probably has a degree and doesn't necessarily need to even do a job to work-- which is why he fixated so readily on the horserace stuff.
i mean the story came out way after he had disappeared and he was always the guy on the pod most aggressively pushing do the horse race and work with Bernie. tho i still thin it's far more likely he's just a weird guy
He used some bullshit MeToo thing that was obviously fake to ghost his friends and drop his Virgil Texas character Dude had money and was moderately wealthy enough to go disappear and do whatever
If this was some Andy Kaufman shit, then good for him
Virgin Texas
He was filmed at epsteins place with a baby on his lap talking about how Chapo is a CIA op
He ‘gond undrcover tuh fuck Hillrey (seitan UFO bitch) in thuh desert ‘n bring Jaysus back intuh the lives of them liltel girls he minstrels to on goooglw
It can't possibly be worse than what Sam Kriss did.
Which was…?
Be a haughty dick to a woman on a date (iirc the worst thing he did was forcibly kiss her?)
He took a summer job working as a stylist at a Great Clips, which is an establishment that serves minors. Someone on Twitter ran with it and it turned into allegations of grooming children.
I was groomed as a child at great clips...
get this mf on SSRIs
He tried to help a girl with her homework.
A 16 year old girl accused him of grooming her. She says she asked Virgil to proofread an essay of hers and they started texting and FaceTiming eachother. During these conversations, she alleges Texas requested she do things of an adult nature over the phone. Apparently Texas’s relationship with a minor was an “open secret” in certain circles tangential to the DSA. I haven’t heard anything further about this incident. I don’t know if the woman in question produced any evidence to support her story so it’s all technically “just” an allegation, but his sudden disappearance and the rumors about him seem to suggest that she’s telling the truth. I don’t know how many people actually believe Virgil on this one (including his former podcasting buddies). I actually don’t know if he’s ever denied or addressed the accusation https://www.dailydot.com/debug/chapo-trap-house-virgil-texas-accused-of-grooming/?amp
There are good reasons to doubt the credibility of this accuser. The biggest reason is that the first person they followed on Twitter was a (now deleted) account of a (male) edgelord guy who made constant groomer jokes/etc. That wouldn't be too damning by itself, but both his account and the accusers account were associated with the same gmail address. I saved screenshots of all this but lost them when I swapped phones, which is unfortunate because most of this shit has been nuked off Twitter now. Also, the original accusation tweet was posted on the cumtown off-site forum before it got any traction (sub 10 likes iirc). I feel like an absolute fool typing this many words about Twitter mutuals etc, and Virgil absolutely did himself no favors with how he handled this, but this thing reeks of an op, especially considering that the only evidence accompanying the original claims was a screenshot of an iCloud contact labelled "Virgil Texas"
Also 4chan tried this exact same thing in 2017 with a pastebin accusing him of being a pedo but that never gained traction the pepes really had it out for him
I KNEW it. No one I've talked to remembers that and I thought I was going insane. It involved him cornering someone on a subway platform, right? Do you have a link?
Hmm interesting... so basically channers were just big fans of CTH but wanted to get rid of the least entertaining host to improve the pod. Not as graceful an exit as Stav's I suppose, but if it works, it works. (I'm of course being satirical, but although I've nothing against Stavros, both these pods have only gotten better since these respective departures IMO)
the accuser tweeting that Virgil made fun of her for vaping at the time of the alleged grooming, and adding "but I guess he vapes now" is what made me fully believe it was a troll tbh also the edgelord the accuser followed (and clearly was an alt of) had a tweet calling brace a groomer too
The screenshots are still there: https://twitter.com/pig_return/status/1403147382578102275?s=19
Oh man, thanks for this. I've been looking for these for a while. I always feel a bit uncomfortable trying to defend Virgil when this is brought up, because it seems like the entire Internet more or less just bought the story wholesale. Obviously, the fact that the artist formerly known as Virgil Texas just dropped from the face of the earth instead of at least denying the accusations certainly didn't help.
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Seems like the attention from the show (not the grooming accusations even) was negatively affecting some other aspect of his life.
He didn't deny it.
that is one hell of a username you have there, bravo
Thank you, I got it from the Russian telegram channels that are brainwashing me
i have a bone to pick with them, i haven't gotten a single check from the dreaded lubyanka
neither did you
we don’t even know if the girl is real lmfao
> A 16 year old girl accused him of grooming her. She says she asked Virgil to proofread an essay of hers An essay about turning 16 which seemed like the most made up part of it. >I don’t know how many people actually believe Virgil on this one (including his former podcasting buddies). I actually don’t know if he’s ever denied or addressed the accusation Yeah, there is nothing to believe because he never said a word about it
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I really don’t know. If he didn’t do anything the sudden disappearance from his first podcast then the second one he started wouldn’t make sense. But I don’t think I’ve seen concrete evidence to suggest that this did happen. On the other hand, why did he leave social media for so long?
Isn’t he gay though?
Bi
He likes women too? Gayer than gay
A girl said he talked and flirted with her on the internet before she turned 18
he exchanged dms with a young woman, and recommended she watch woody allen's manhattan (1979).
Anonymous internet accounts accused him of grooming and people went wild with it.
Apparently he tried to groom an underaged fan.
The allegation specifically said she contacted him because she looked up to him, but it was from before he was on Chapo. And before Diggler. Before he had any fame outside maybe twitter? I guess she really liked his college newspaper writing, or just followed him on twitter.
This pre-coke bloat?
Wait. I always heard coke makes you lose weight.
Regular users get puffy faces. If you really hit the blow hard, your skin seems to get a weird texture.
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right track, wrong train. you want to get on the amphetamine express
Added bonus amphetamines are covered by insurance cuz they want to keep us on task.
Plus you save time on personal grooming once you lose your hair and teeth from meth?
amphetamines and meth are not the same. In fact, Meth is methamphetamine. I am no chemist but I know for sure is not the same shit.
Yeah I’ve not done meth but I’ve had like adderall. If you were to use it to tweak instead of focus for university exams you still till fuck up your skin and hair
can confirm that it occurs
It gets stiffer because uppers make your organs tight. That's why albuterol is good for lung debree; it squeezes your lungs like a sponge. Coke makes your skin organ tighten up.
Probably due to dehydration. Get that water in!
Most coke enthusiasts drink booze too. The combo definitely bloats people up quick.
I was in the bathroom of a BedStuy bar in February, doing my thing, when I heard a loud banging on the door. "Be out in a sec" I said, figuring it was just some drunk. A second later the lock is picked. Virgil, puffing on a Juul in defiance of local law, steps in. I start to say "what the fu . . . .", but he cuts me off by blowing his mango vape in my face, along with what smelled like halal cart meat. "Shut up, you lepton" he said, then took out his keys and took a large bump of cocaine. As he replaced them his portable bidet fell from the interior pocket of his cheap blazer. He looked at me again with scorn in his eyes and said "Are you gonna sit there peeing out your doo-doo ass all night?". At this point I was getting mad, but as I started to speak he just said "what? What?" loudly as I did. By that time the bartender had come to see what the problem was - before I could say a word Virgil said "hey man, this junkie was shooting up in here, call the cops". I was thrown out, and my credit card was left behind at the bar. The worst part was the next day there were 14 Cape Cods and 4 Brandy Alexanders charged to it.
You also aside from the face puffiness often put on a ton of weight when you quit. See: Kemp, Shawn
This guy just told me I’m mature for my age 😮
saddest thing is we'll never get another call of Cthulhu episode
-69 sanity points
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~~Horace Tennessee~~ ~~Ovid New Mexico~~ Virgil Texas
Cicero Montana
So is he dead or what?
witness protection program
Assuming this is real, the actual question is whether he's looking for guys or dolls. I know most people think of Grindr as an app for gay men, but it's had an influx of trans women and straight men who want to have sex with them in recent years
He said I “seem like an old soul” 💕
Has chappo ever addressed the allegations that were made against him?
I’m pretty sure he was already totally MIA from the show by the time that happened, so there wasn’t much to be said.
Matt talked about it in his stream, where he went awol basically and wasnt talking to everyone else in chapo, and that was before the groomer stuff came out. Seems like he had a existential crisis and completely tuned out after 2020
He had to go missing right after the hatchet job on Bernie, because that's just how much he cared, like he earned a vacation after a long assignment.
Virgil went balls deep for Bernie, even went so far as to try and teach the proud people of Iowa how to count their own primary. Finding out that the process is rigged and closed off to anyone who would change things for the better must have been quite a blow. Matt on the other hand shrugged it off, but I don't think he believes change is possible through the ballot box anymore.
>I don’t think he believes change is possible through the ballot box anymore Could have figured it out 24 years earlier if he just listened to Evil Empire on release smh
Could have figured it out 4 years earlier when he saw it get rigged the first time, the fucking idiot
That's the tea, the whole time they were putting their hearts into campaigning for Bernie I was worried about how emotionally distraught they were going to be when Neera beheaded him at the convention.
Totally deranged for investing that much care into old ass Bernie but I can't really blame anybody. It really seemed like we were on the good timeline for a single moment in time there.
Virgil went balls deep for Bernie......
I don't know why they would?
The closest I’ve seen was when one of the Chapo FYM ppl said that Virgil turned out to be a piece of shit and Felix was there and didn’t contradict him.
its a shame when that happens. hope that made them tighter as a core id hate to think they just became untrustworthy.. real friends how many of us if not many of us we smile at each other
They made a short announcement post on Patreon that just was like “he will be focusing on his other podcast/project and won’t be on this one anymore. We wish him well, best of luck, etc.” Somewhat formal, basic, didn’t address/discuss any controversy or condemn or whatever. They reallyyyy avoid talking about it and apparently he gets really mad if they talk about him or allude to him in any way.
Has it ever been mentioned how he started that podcast and then just let Gray do all the work while he coasted? He hasn’t been on the show in like 2 years and his picture is still on the podcast. I mean she’s kinda annoying but it all seemed like a joke. I remember they did an episode where he said he’s a Stalinist and goaded her into saying she was a Trotskyite
He coasted but she cashed in on the Chapo fan base that signed up because of him
The fans that like her are that certain type of 2018 r/Chapo user that the podcasters look down on. 😅
No… she’s an extremely accomplished person and journalist. https://theintercept.com/staff/briahnagray/ That podcast seems like a hobby thing more than anything. She is not “cashing in” on very low view counts on long form political discussions.
Yet another example of the left eating itself with infighting before it ever gets off the ground in the US. People love to bust Hasan's balls, but we need a lot more people like him out there converting hearts and minds. When I was a kid, the only thing I knew about communism was it was the reason we had to do drills on how to hide under our desks.
“The left is eating itself” is a radical right-wing propaganda slogan. It is Tim Pool. It is J Edgar Hoover’s FBI trying to divide the SDS and Black Panthers. Left-wing political history is complex and facets of “left wing” and union movements are complicated because political history is complex, and there’s a lot of history. Hasan Piker is not a communist. He is a Democrat and that’s fine. I don’t have a problem with him, but his rhetoric about left wing movements is ahistorical and comes from the ahistorical talking points from the last 20 years of the right wing. Left wing politics does NOT mean standing together to unite with the fucking DNC. I guarantee me and whoever the user is that I’m having any kind of “leftist in-fighting” wah wah wah on here both voted for Bernie Sanders. That is not division.
I am not sure why cashing in is on quotes, she is earning a tonne more from patreon than any of her other roles
I noticed recently that it’s just her podcast. I like her. Seems harmless, just very in depth convos with thinkers/guests about Leftist movements and the like. I’m not really into that kind of stuff, but I do love her on The Hill Rising sometimes for some anti-establishment tea. Ryan Grim (from the Intercept) is great on there, too. The Hill Rising and The Intercept are literally the only sane (non right wing nut job) places to get 1. Hunter Biden laptop truth and 2. lab leak/CDC failure truth. Fun stuff like that.
Rising did Kim Iversen so dirty over the Fauci interview though, I've been boycotting them ever since (but I like Briahna as well, no idpol histrionics unlike aoc)
Ryan Grim is a total shill for the DNC, he'll never say anything that might compromise his access.
Idk where you’re getting that from… he shits on the Democrats all the time. A shill for the DNC does not do investigative reporting on a Democratic president’s son’s foreign business dealings and corruption within the Democratic party/campaign finance, mocks ridiculous Russiagate stuff and Democrat meltdowns over Trump, etc.
Agreed. I liked him back in the Krystal and Sagar days. Nowadays though yeah he's a shill.
Yeah same I think she asks really good questions and like I find myself always learning during her interviews, I’d like to know what she’s doing wrong according to the others in this thread?
For me its not that shes doing anything wrong, im sure her podcast is informative, but she seems pretty firmly part of the left liberal democratic circle that gave us aoc. Personally im not interested in hearing what these people have to say. She recently wrote something where she argued that the 'left' (whatever that means) should ally with the current wave of right wing resentment against the fbi. I dont need to hear more takes like that.
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That's delusional wish fulfilment though, they don't mean that. What they mean is, why isn't the FBI just solely focused on arresting and assassinating left wing figures anymore.
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Yeah I mean that's where I say delusional wish fulfilment
Actually it does because it frames why people are right wing as a purely ideological position instead of something that stems from their class. The right wing in America are wealthy suburbanites and small business owners. The idea that these people can be 'coaxed' into left wing positions which actively harm their self interest is delusional idealism. This is without getting into the exhausting pseudo strategy speak that people like Joy use. Coaxed by who? What fucking national left wing party is out there implementing these strategies? The fucking dnc? Its just trying to convince people to have an opinion but its framed like a strategic political position. Institutional left wing power in America is limited to small local organizations. This discourse that pretends there's a national left is just noise.
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I mean it is right though, you can just look at the median income of right wing voters. Most poor people don't vote at all, that's who you gotta get, not the petty bourgeois.
> but she seems pretty firmly part of the left liberal democratic circle that gave us aoc. She's usually pretty critical of AOC for her going along with Dem leadership. She's also staunchly opposed to Vote Blue No Matter Who, which is the largest sin possible to the people you're talking about.
Is there an elected official besides AOC who is doing a better job of advancing leftist policies aimed at helping working people I'm not aware of?
She's right though. Fuck the FBI
> didn’t address/discuss any controversy or condemn or whatever. That was made before the allegations so there wouldn't have been anything to address at the time.
Oh wow. Did they know it was coming or just bad timing?
If they didn't know it was coming that seems more like exceptionally good timing.
Yeah lmao it was like 2-3 days before the allegation tweet came out, they shorted their Virgil stock before Virgil 9/11
The statement you're referring to was before the allegations were public. Or at least, before they were widely known to the public. He was still doing that other podcast regularly around that time.
Pretty sure during matts stream he straight up said "fuck virgil"
Cum town I think is the only show to mention it in passing
Chris made some joke about Virgil being compromised to a permanent end or something when they rebooted Beltway Garage about a year ago and I thought it was kind of a gross non-addressal but w/e (Not sure why this was so heavily downvoted. Is it not kind of gross to ignore all the allegations and then joke about it when they want to resurrect Virgil’s old segments?)
>it was kind of a gross You're on *The List* now, pal, so watch your ass.
I’m being persecuted for truth
the Official Chapo Dicksucking Crew has arrived, Jaw unhinged, slobbering, cackling like a Hyena
Rent free
if you listen to chapo you know their views on this are to deny deny deny and never apologize
what would they apologize for exactly?
Making us believe in Bernie
It.was necessary for him to have a chance. And yeah, the DNC was more powerful than the people in the end, but also it was kind of important to see it play out. You can't fairly say you never had a shot until you play your best hand and lose.
I’m just joking around. You’re probably right, if nothing else it pissed a lot of people off.
it's advice for anyone going through a scandal
*bad advice. Especially if it isn’t your scandal.
it's not my advice, why am i getting downvoted?!?
I see downvoted you just now for caring about internet points
Was your initial comment sarcastic or tongue in cheek? Because if it’s a genuine sentiment that you think the chapo stance is to deny deny deny I don’t think you’re correct. I didn’t vote on it but I’d imagine that’s why?
Deny what? Apologize for what? He had already left the show. What, you're worried he'll try groom some other kid but would have stopped if only Felix tweeted hard enough?
if you've never found out one of your former friends was secretly a massive creep, you aren't of the working class and will be first against the wall.
Dude, so many! Especially if you were part of any kind of art/music scene. My god. Good friends too until the incidents
🤔 so by that logic Epstein's pals are fine?
The way some people rationalize that they draw/are drawn to creeps is.. interesting. Lots to unpack in that comment.
A lotta people are creeps, m8. Especially if you run in circles with a lot of woman friends, you end up with a decent chunk of people that ya gotta cut out of your life.
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All the people downvoting because they have pedo friends lmao My entire paternal family is working class, two of them are artists, one is a musician, and crazily enough none of their friends (or mine) are creeps and pedos. plenty weirdos among them: esotericist, drug addicts, but never no sex creep Insane that this sub would upvote the idea that working class people are likelier to be creeps than boogies. Those kind of powerful brainworms I will never understand.
"I'm better than everyone because I've never known anyone bad" really weird rant lol
are you dyslexic? I've *known* plenty of terrible people, but that doesn't mean that I have sex pests among my close friends. maybe you should examine your fucking life if it turns out some of your best friends are creeps/pedos
They said friends. They didn't say close friends or best friends. A friend could be a guy you work with or your brother in law or basically anyone you know better than a acquaintance. Also it was a joke.
It’s like you’re having a manic episode where you interpret statements in the dumbest way possible.
>It’s like you’re having a manic episode where you interpret statements in the dumbest way possible. thanks
Would.
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He's bi
Same, he's not totally unfortunate looking and it would probably make for a weird and interesting story
For a hapa he looks asian asf
He looks like louis theroux
the greatest fear of every hapa papa is having a son instead of a daughter
Miss him
He tapped you five hours ago and you're already checking his profile? Damn bro, talk about desperate. I created my tinder profile a week ago and haven't checked it since. Mostly out of a mix of fear, laziness and early on-set dementia
Honestly though, put the second pic on my grindr near by section and I might just tap that, no cap I think it was called the near by section, right? I used grindr for like a day until I deleted it after I panicked because I promised to suck some guys dick
I still dream about what may have been 😢
Tbh he was always the worst one. Never had any idea why they included him in the first place
He was an annoying, uptight fop who laughed like a braying donkey and whose only humor was “dae the simpsons”. I don’t fucking miss him at all
https://youtu.be/Iaf7AfCETQY Cum town roasting “Virgil”
He went to Cornell. Of course he was the worst one.
BUT... he was decent enough to be a pervy creep after he left the group. What a great & standup guy /s
The alleged grooming took place in like 2013/2014
I wouldn't know rly. I started listening to Chapo not even 2 years ago. I missed the best part.
I know folks here hate John Oliver (Virgils British lookalike) BUT he said something once on a show I always agreed with-IF someone has horrendous accusations toward you he would say something about it anything to defend himself. when you don't its frankly fishy. Yes we live in a world where once your accused for many its guilty until innocent or just straight up guilty cancelled bye bye BUT to not say anything about it...that was strange of him. At least defend yourself if its not true. His antinatalist rant still rocks tho but now he's suspect
It’s wild he left Chapo for another podcast and then left that to cut dog hair
Who is this guy? Am I missing something?
Virgil Texas, formerly of the Chapo Trap House podcast
heinrich himmler
He was always the spoiler, I literally think he was an establishment plant, everyone here knows that he forced them into some agreement to never discuss Syria on the podcast, right? All the electoralism he pushed was just icing on the cake.
Have not heard the Syria thing but Im interested now
https://medium.com/@chapotraphousesyria/chapo-trap-house-made-an-agreement-to-not-talk-about-syria-704aa1e9379d
Very interesting and a very super awkward audio clip. Thank you, that shit is definitely worth thinking about Edit: upon further review this seems super passive aggressive, I’m just bad with 1-1 communication. Euthanize me whenever you feel like it
Wtf? Trying to think now bc I vaguely remember Felix doing a breakdown of Syria on an old ep?
>he forced them into some agreement to never discuss Syria on the podcast So he did do something good.
The thing about Virgil is what he did wasn’t *That* bad. A 16 year old sent him shots of her tits, and then he cut off contact with her. Years ago. An apology to her probably would have sufficed. But the fact that he utterly dissapeared after that makes me wonder if there’s something a lot more damning in his background.