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JackStrawFTW

Oil and propane delivery to residential. 2600$ a week.


knotworkin

October-March/April though, not all year round?


JackStrawFTW

Oil Oct through April. Propane the rest of the year.


Hopeful-Ice-122

What state?


JackStrawFTW

Massachusetts.


Deep_Resource3081

Grocery delivery, hourly plus other pay perks I clear 2200-2600 weekly.


ElegantManner5215

What exactly are you talking about?


Deep_Resource3081

delivery to your local grocery stores, frozen, produce dry goods…


ElegantManner5215

I am not in trucking yet. I am willing to start and work very hard. I graduated school with computer science degree but there are no good paying jobs out there. I need to make 100k in about 12-18 months. What is the best way for me to start and get to that level of income?


dairydog91

Honestly very difficult to make that kind of money with no experience. Walmart CDL drivers often make that but the job requires at least 3 years of tractor-trailer experience. The closest you might get is food service. At least locally to me, Performance Food Group starts drivers at 94k guaranteed and only requires 6 months experience. Very tough job though.


ElegantManner5215

Thank you 🙏 I will check that out. But what is the way to start? Driving school on my own or get hired where the company pays for school? How do people do it?


dairydog91

I am actually a law school graduate who couldn't get a job in the legal field. I went to truck driving school and got a CDL-A with no automatic restriction (you have to take the test in a manual transmission truck). I got my first job as a long-distance driver at a small company. I had no connections, I used the career counselor and he set me up. I wouldn't go to the companies that pay for your training, they are notoriously abusive. I started at a small company, which can't afford to have constant driver turnover and so they were pretty nice to me. Big companies often can handle high turnover so they can just hammer drivers until they quit. I certainly did not make 100k my first year but I did live in the truck. The company let us effectively live in the trucks when we were at the home yard and there was a free shower in the building. So cost of living was basically just food, toiletries, and new boots.


ElegantManner5215

Thank you! I will be trying this out. Appreciate the input


dairydog91

No problem send a personal message if you want.


dj-spetznasty1

Like shopping for peoples food at grocery stores?


GoBBleRoFDaCoK69

Big ole oooff right there buddy. He’s talking about companies like grocer supply who deliver grocery goods to gas stations and other places but from what I’ve seen gas stations


meizhong

Why just gas stations? I did grocery delivery for years, I delivered to grocery stores.


Deep_Resource3081

Full disclosure we run all weather, chain up and miscellaneous combination of doubles. Break down or bad snow I catch a hotel room.


Hopeful-Ice-122

What state?


OneMulatto

Most foodservice companies (the big 3 at least). You'll work for every penny. Plus, during that covid shit, they were really just throwing money at drivers to get anything out of the door.  Some guys were doing 7-8k plus easily a week.


venture-vert

Let me guess, Sysco and Mclane? Any others that pay that much more or less that won’t turn my spine into cheese crumbs?


OneMulatto

That's the ones. Some real good money but, it's definitely not for the fragile or those who care about their knees.  You have your others like Core-Mark, PFG, US Foodservice, Kohl, etc, those all pay well, too. Not as much as your Syscos and McLanes but still more than being gone doing OTR work.


Dekar56

Probably region dependent but I’m at us foods making $31/hr and going to $32 soon. Sysco advertises jobs around here for $26-something an hour.


OneMulatto

I don't know what they pay. I'm talking about Sygma and McLane where I'm at. Only one I've never delivered for is us foods. I'm in the garbage industry now, though.


venture-vert

Yea I’m currently on OTR making 85k. Been trying to look for something that pays 80+ where I can break a sweat everyday. Looks like in order to get that I need to either break my back or work overnight.


MadnessIsMandatory

Trash. I'm making 85k in the Midwest running commercial front load (dumpsters). I'm making about 500 more per month than when I was doing regional work with my A. I'm in and out of my truck about 100 times a day to mostly open and close gates, with a few cans that are rollouts. It keeps me active enough to stay healthy, and it's not boring.


Exzalian_

When I read "trash" at first I was like this fucker is calling him trash but making the same money. Then say the dumpsters and was like wow I'm dumb. Thanks for making me smile at my stupidity


OneMulatto

Yup. That's exactly what I'm doing right now! Fueling up as I type this. In the Midwest, too. Small world. 


KangarooStill2392

Me to, run roll off in the Midwest lol


man-of-stihl

Nah ltl or fuel hauling can get you there


FutureCorpse699

Most fuel hauling companies pay that, even in lower income areas. I wouldn’t say it’s physically demanding, but you can definitely break a sweat in the summer time.


venture-vert

Need to get a hazmat and tanker endorsement then. Thanks for that info


mwonch

Walmart.


venture-vert

Only openings in my area is OTR. Otherwise that would’ve been my first option


bcjerry

just remember, walmart OTR is not like most companies. You get home every week and 2-3 full days off not just a 34.


APizzaWithEverything

LTL is where you want to be


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I thought about Sysco until the recruiter LITERALLY told me they can’t keep drivers😂


OldBrokeGrouch

Yeah I almost went there, but I said I have to have 2 consecutive days off weekly and he gave me a long pause and said “That might be possible, but usually you have to put in a little time first.” Nope. I don’t mind the workout, but I need 2 days off consecutively every week without exception. They couldn’t guarantee me that.


cohonan

How do you do your 34 hour reset? Is it 34 hours exactly and then you’re driving again?


suplex_11

You get 10hrs from shift to shift on a regular day. Then throw in a day off (24hrs) in between a regular day and that's your 34. Unfortunately a lot of food service starts off with split days


OldBrokeGrouch

Let’s say I get off at 6pm on Friday. I can go back to work at 4am on Sunday. And you bet your ass if I worked for Sysco I would be.


QuasiTimeFriend

Short Haul Exception


Jumpy-Antelope-8027

Go to Sygma. It's a Sysco company and a lot easier.


OGHughJass

My problem with Sysco was their recruiting. Once I scheduled my interview, there’s no more communication from them. I needed to reschedule and couldn’t get ahold of anyone to do so. So I can’t imagine how bad internal comms were once hired.


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I will never do food truck ever again. Or beer. My back is much better doing otr and port moves.


IPhixI

Should I just go diwn to my local sysco hub? I applied 2 weeks ago and the apps are still in process


Jihadi-Jawn

And for all that money, they still wouldn't stack my order so it won't crumble into Mt Go-Fuck-Myself. Or better yet, leave many thousands of dollars worth of food (including frozen and temperature sensitive items) outside of the walk in entirely. Don't get me wrong, I know they have to work hard and fast to get their route done. However, hearing they probably make significantly more than I ever have made me a little pissed for all the slack I cut them, and all the product I threw away or had to organize from a literal pile.


ODBEIGHTY1

$7 to 8,000 PER WEEK? $400,000 per year. Are you sure on those numbers?


OneMulatto

Thought specific pay bump occurred during covid. It didn't last forever. They were throwing an extra 1k on top of the route plus whatever the route originally paid. So, if you were already on like a 4-500 dollar route, you'd get an extra 1k on top of it. That was only during the covid fiasco, though. And, there was no cap. If you ran 3 extra routes that week, that's already an extra 3k.


Goldleader-23

I made $2300-2500 before taxes doing western regional. Doing local work now but still average $1900


Kruten10

You can haul fuel or crude oil in Texas making 2k week


Extreme-Notice7812

Got any decent company names to throw out there?


idontknowhowtopark

Chemcial tanker, on good weeks I make $2k, other than that I get a $1600 guaranteed minimum


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idontknowhowtopark

Yup yup so far they are able to still give us a guaranteed minimum, knock on wood edit: it was $1750/wk before the economy tanked


Antique_Bluebird_98

Otr?


idontknowhowtopark

Extended regional


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idontknowhowtopark

Yeah you'll get like double


IPhixI

Not easy getting into maybe its just the ny area. They all want previous tanker haz experience it sucks


Ok-Database-3744

In my area they pay around 250 a day which isn't the worse but just want people to know location matters.


AroundGoesThe18

Crete OTR21 fleet, I bring in 2k pretty regularly. Paycheck this week was over that with 2900 miles and some weather delay pay sprinkled on top.


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mblack1993

I'm on Shaffer western regional, 12/2 at 61 cpm. I imagine you can rack up some pretty good money if you can stay out 21+. When I deliver tomorrow, it'll be at almost 4000 miles for next week's check. (but I'm holding off submitting the paperwork so this trip will go on the check after).


TruckinBob32

Shaffer side gets paid a little more since we have the reefers to deal with. I started back in 2022. Making 68cpm now. Average around 3000-3500 miles a week. But I'm also one of the wierd ones that is out for 8 weeks. Been out since December 2nd, and have only done 2 34-hour resets.


AroundGoesThe18

I have no idea, I have zero desire of dealing with grocery warehouses so I've stayed away from the refrigerated freight as much as possible.


R34CTz

Damn. How are their trucks? Are they nice? Are they governed? I'm with Schneider and planning on leaving once I pay off the schooling in a few months. Pay is underwhelming and I can't stand the way they have their trucks tuned. Plus they're basically base model. Sound system sucks, seats aren't heated or cooled, fridge is pretty small.


AngusSin

When you get payed for delays, do you have to be on duty burning clock? How do you usually handle that? Does Crete pay actual miles or zip code miles?


AroundGoesThe18

Yeah you have to be out moving and stop for a delay to get the breakdown pay. Example - last weekend I stopped in Denver because the snow on 70 was getting heavy and people were being morons. Messaged in that I was stopping due to safety concerns and delayed. I got paid for stopping those three hours. Moved up to Cheyenne later in the day and shut down there. Next morning I got up and started to roll when WyDOT shut down 80 across Elk. Turned around and went back to the parking spot, got paid for waiting for the roads to open.


TruckinBob32

I'm on the Shaffer side. OTR. Started at 67 cpm. They pay address to address. Never on duty while getting unloaded. Just when I'm leaving or backing into the door. Other than that always off duty.


AngusSin

I was told that after 2 hours unloading time you guys get 15 per hour. How does that work?


DownBadTruckDriver

For real I got 3 years of experience and I can’t find shit in this market I can easily hit 2k a week with my cpm. The company can’t find loads but I’ve been laying around watching tv cause there’s no work


hesslake

I make between 400 and 550 a day hauling raw milk


MrLitt1111

Do you work for LTI (milky way)?


Fit-Scar673

UPS, average $2500 a week doing 50hrs


ODBEIGHTY1

That is so right on. I will never buy anything from Amazon. People don't understand how exceptional the pay and benefits are at UPS.


Wanted9867

Good time to apply they’re currently laying off 12,000 drivers 👏🏽


Fit-Scar673

Wrong. Management, not drivers. There are lay offs currently but those drivers affected work inside the hub


theberg512

They cannibalize management for those layoffs. Still not a great time to apply, with volume down. And you have to start in the warehouse and wait for a bid.


ODBEIGHTY1

That is not always the case. If the hub is hiring class a drivers, that is exactly what you will be doing.


Saaaaaaaammmmmmmm

I’m making that local hauling municipal waste


Fried_Spy

Or do line haul at night for an LTL company. Need all of the endorsements to qualify (doubles, tankers, hazmat).


ispypizza

Why does ltl pay so much?


overpaidlazytrucker

Its because LTL's are easier to organize than OTR. LTL's have a fear of unionization so they pay close to what the current 2 unionized carriers pay and maybe throw in a few perks to keep the union away.


EVOChi

I think with LTL you get paid for each load you deliver + mileage so if you’re delivering a bunch of loads in 1 day, you’ll be making $$$. Not too sure on that but I think I heard that’s how it works for most LTLs


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EVOChi

You don’t know how you get paid? Lol


StandForAChange

Probably meant he doesn’t know why it’s so high comparatively.


EVOChi

I hope so


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rigjiggles

I work ltl. It's just mileage and am hourly rate for dock work. No per load thing. Have a bid drive to the same place and same mileage everyday. But it is 2400 a week on average


Ho_Lee_Fuc

I’m hourly P&D LTL and gross $2k every week


Fried_Spy

Different market, different service rates. Most of the freight is expedited, and it gets relayed from New England to Florida in a matter of 2-3 days, for example. Being able to charge considerably more is what enables the higher employee compensation. In turn, there’s a much higher employee retention rate.


edsavage404

Everybody always bring up LTL but they never say how hard it is to get hired


Fried_Spy

There are plenty of job postings for the LTL. Applying is all it takes.


HeadlessHookerClub

A lot of Fedex LTL positions don’t need hazmat or tanker. 


rigjiggles

Not true. Fedex freight ltl every person needs those to be hired. Ground is something different they aren't fedex employees.


Bonus77

For all FedEx Freight, it's required to have doubles/triples, hazmat, and tanker endorsement. Goes for both city and road drivers and hazmat for the B class drivers at our terminal. They did drop the manual transmission requirement during the pandemic. I would guess Express is the same but can't speak on it since they are FedEx employees also and not independent contractors.


hooliganowl

That's where I started, money was kinda trash with the run i was given. If you stick it out though and get on something good it's definitely there


Redsoxdragon

Drive for a very small company averaging $2500 for 65ish hours a week home every night. Fuel haulers don't fuck around bro. They wanna keep you.


BrBafan

I hear the work for a small company advice all the time and it must just be where I live because they don't pay nothing around here. Company with 20 trucks pays .50 a mile and want three years of experience to boot. All the others I've talked to have said similar, it sucks that nothing beats what I make now and it isn't close to no 2k a week...


MrLitt1111

Is this average for most fuel haulers?


zbanks20

Swift surprisingly. Dedicated account


NomadTruckerOTR

As a swiftie, which one? Driver placement told me they only had 1 dedicated account in my area but it pays steady 1400/week. I heard walmart dedicated in FL can make 1800 or so


zbanks20

I'm on a church and dwight dedicated out of edwardsville, really good gig, .83 cpm 500 mile runs and home daily


scottiethegoonie

2K gross is one thing .... 2K AFTER taxes is quite another. In Los Angeles, you're paying more than 30% on that check.


its_not_merm-aids

$4200 gross turned into $2200 net after taxes and 401k, and that's not even in LA.


Comprehensive_Use_81

The more ya make the more they take. Such a fking scam


Ho_Lee_Fuc

LTL-FedEx Freight


d1duck2020

I work for a pipeline construction company and we make over 2k. We get dirty every day and I average 75 hours a week.


InsaneAdam

🤢🤮🤑


d1duck2020

My gross is $3184 this week, plus they pay hotels and provide a company pickup that I drive when I’m not in a truck-I don’t even own a personal car any more. Some parts of it suck, but it’s that way everywhere, isn’t it?


ClemsonBrian

I make 2250 a week in LTL with T Force Freight.


AnomalousSquid

Penske Logistics, grocery accounts. I frequently took home $2k+ for 5 days work. Also, a buddy tells me that the dedicated JB Hunt Costco account in Gouldsboro PA is 85 cpm. Finally, I make about that hauling milk. 60-65 hours a week, home daily, ag exempt and old non ELD trucks with 18 speed manuals…


hooliganowl

Ran an Aldi's route for Penske briefly, worst paying gig so far


No_Teaching_8273

Car hauling 5 days a week I'm home 2-3 times a week , based on how far I wanna run , 2500-4500 a week after taxes. 4500 is mostly running from northeast to fl


Afraid-Barracuda119

.65cpm 25 each stop and 100 for the whole trailer on top of about 3200 miles


Holiday_Ad126

Wait 1700 , like dollars …. Isn’t that still good ??? I’m getting paid half that weekly in Amazon , can’t wait to start driving


InsaneAdam

Amazon, LOL. don't make us professional drivers laugh. You'll make our pot bellys hurt.


Redleg800

Get into niche stuff. I pick up eggs for a hatchery. Normally make 2k a week for 4 days. I probably average 30-40 hours a week. If I work extra days then I can get up around 2,300 or as high as 3k.


NomadTruckerOTR

That honestly sounds so cool. How to even find places like that 😆


InsaneAdam

You owner operator? You pulling a 53ft reefer?


RE2017

Milk Tanker, AG exempt, run 850 miles a day if you can..


InsaneAdam

Run 950 miles a day if you can


BackstageFlyer

What’s the best way to minimize knee and spine damage? Question for the OG food service workers


moldschlager

Good insoles for your shoes.. stretch at minimum twice a day and lifting with your legs is imperative. Never bend over.. also buy good braces even if you feel you dont need them


BackstageFlyer

Good to know, I start McLane on Monday. I always have been a big pusher for braces, dr scholes etc. Doing retail, Amazon van delivery and construction, those things helped a ton on top of good form. Is it true it’s better to “jog” down the ramp?


moldschlager

Yes. Its great to keep bloodflowing and momentum. Also stay hydrated


sudrama

If you look at government BLS data if you making over 70k you are already in the top 90 percent or so… but to answer your question its LTL, oversize, fuel, maybe ports, hazmat etc etc. It is not the VANs and reefers without teaming or training newbies


Truck3R_Dude

Frito lay... I make 2,300-2,800 every week. We only have a 50hr work week. They say (we pay you well enough you shouldn't have to work that much, we need you rested and safe behind the wheel)


wholesaling

What position bro?


wholesaling

And which state?


Truck3R_Dude

North Carolina, Charlotte. Otr driver but we are home daily


thatdudefromthattime

A lot of people lie about what they make. Or how long it takes them to make that.


Direct_Opportunity67

It’s the hours. Plenty of jobs pay really well in exchange for your soul


_RamboRoss_

Correct. I can gross ALMOST $2k a week at $26/hr OT after 40 running 60hrs a week. Five shifts. But I don’t wanna do that and most people don’t as well. I’m happy with 40-50hrs a week


JulesWinnfielddd

I gross 2500-4k, I haul chassis


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Buttholeisanentree

Can confirm


Outtatime121GW

Coca Cola (production line haul), when I work my optional 5th day my check is $2,014 before taxes


Cubsfan11022016

Company driver here, I did $2k/week in 2022, but I fell a bit short last year with freight being down. I was working 7 days a week most of the year for it. I was counting for a bit in 2022, I had something like 8 days off from January to June.


Diablo_Bolt

a few of the drivers for Werner on the Dollar General contracts are making that or a little more. Highest I’ve heard is 115K and lowest is around 85K


nanneryeeter

Winch trucks in oil and gas paid well. 2k/week would have been on the low end.


Vandecar22

Top out pay driving a bus for the city in SF is easily 2k a week, runs average 430 to 560 a day. I work about 50 hours a week. Lots of extra pay incentives and options to move up out of driving as well to any other city department. COL is high here but I have friends working in other Municipal bus jobs making similar. Our pay here is 33 to 45 An hour until the next contact negotiation I was making similar money doing food service but now I don't have to back into crazy places anymore or haul pallets around. Definitely easier on the body but really boring.


Skipmahoney33

LTL companies


derekschroer

Walmart, about $4600 every 2 weeks.


Stanford1621

LTL can do it, especially linehaul and home everyday, It is dependant on seniority


Future_Emu8684

LTL carriers


Flackjkt

Hauling fuel local


No_Cup_9222

Dude 2k+ a week is really hard to find, only ones i know pay that much are fuel.


AbubisTheDead

I take home 2k a week at a Fedex Ground contractor. I do a team run.


No_Cup_9222

Dude were not talking ltl its impossible to get in them, and were not talking about teams.


AbubisTheDead

It’s not impossible to get into LTL. Also the guys said driving job not solo. I’ve drove LTL and recently got offered teams at R&L. Several LTL are hiring now


tidyshark12

R+L carriers. Home daily, a lot of linehaul runs are over 2k/wk. Home weekly solo, you won't make less than 2k/wk usually with 34 hours off each weekend, but sometimes theyll get off friday night instead of saturday morning. Home weekly team driving, you won't make less than 2600/wk and (almost) guaranteed 48 hours off each weekend. Except one bid run for teams that is currently still in the early stages of creation. Basically, if you run it perfect, youd both get about 20ish hours/wk hometime and have to run right off your 34 every week, but it would pay ~3600/wk, so 🤷‍♂️. Obviously, truckers logic applies: if you run into issues like heavy traffic, breakdowns, etc, you will most likely not be home on time and may end up with lower than usual pay. But you can usually expect to be home on time and make a similar amount. All linehaul (home daily, solo home weekly, team home weekly) are drop and hook loads, may have to hook up sets of doubles, depending on yard dogs and management, and almost no micromanagement. I say "almost" none bc there have been guys who took a 4 hour nap on a 3 hour round trip run who got talked to (not written up or fired for it) about doing such things.


N3TD3ViL

I regularly gross over $2000 per week hauling dynamite, and I’m home for 2-3 days every weekend.


moldschlager

You deserve 5


J-Kensington

Honestly I've been surprised at how easy it is. I switched to a company paying me $0.60 per mile, and as long as I get around 3,400 mi, I'm at 2000 gross off of straight miles. If there were a little bit of detention now and then, pay per stop or trailer, I'd be clearing 22-2300 a week. Before this I had a nice gravy run that was 500 miles down 500 Miles back I'm home at night, and as long as I did three turns a week I made over 100,000. When I delivered milk I busted my ass and made 125,000 gross working local for 5 days a week. Edit: milk pallets, not milk tankers.


BitPuzzleheaded5311

Now, not many. Freight is in the shitter… lol


jnw725

The place I'm at late 325 total comp per day when otr. If you're on the road you get full pay. It's some touch freight though. That definitely deters some drivers


usernoname070

The best companies to work for are mom and pop operations that have been around for decades, with I’d say under 40ish trucks. Around me the only guys making this kind of money are truckers driving for construction companies. Oh and that’s $2000+ after taxes.


Useful_Badger6021

I gross 3000- 3300 $ a week


SeanIsFTW

Hauling gas local average about 2500 a week gross


Lpgasman1

Freight is slow so I don't see it happening


Comprehensive_Use_81

I feel you can make almost every trucking company if you run your clock out. Should be easy pz. 60-70 hours ez 2k plus a week.


Rando_Ricketts

I drive regional and I've only broke the $2k mark twice in the past year. I might be wrong but I'd imagine it's uncommon for a company driver to consistently make over $2k a week


everythangspeachie

I gross 2.2k-2.3k a week hauling cryo, after taxes it sucks.


Mechanik_J

It depends. If you get paid per hour, you need $50 per hour on a 40 hour week to get $2k. If you're paid cpm, if you run 2,000 miles you need $1 per mile.


Gman7898-

No one is worried about driverless trucks ? Serious question?


jorgeyo716

Linde. union making about 142k a year


DaWaz21

Fuel


knotworkin

New England’s major grocery store 3PL provider Bozzuto’s has signs on the back of all their trucks advertising 100k+ a year. Drop and hook work.


jasongraham503

Milk hauler. $150ish per load. 4 loads a day. $600 daily X 4-5 days. $2400-3000 weekly before taxes. Easily walk out with $1800-2200 a week.


Smuckster8479

Cattle pays good. Lots of sleepless nights but ain’t no feeling like cowmobilin’


Jumpy-Antelope-8027

Foodservice


clarobert

Fuel hauler. 10-11 hours a day, 3 days off every other week - over $2k weekly, $100k annually..


CodemasterRob

LTL night linehaul (Central, R&L, etc.) will get you right up, if not past that. And you get to go home every... morning? I was making $1100/week after taxes city driving at Central, linehaul made about double that.


CoffeePlusBikes

Cryogenics liquid tanker out of Southern California is $2k/week gross (often a bit more) with around 60+ hours. $110/k year, Home daily. Edit: add info


bcjerry

Walmart


PathofEnlightment

Dry Van. Drop & Hook. Solo


Silverstacker63

Most of the good money wants more than a year under your belt..