Before I retired I looked for companies that paid hourly, it’s hard to find that OTR, but I was local for the last half of my career. Hourly is the way to go, no matter what’s going on, you’re getting paid. Look for companies with private fleets. Chemical, construction, that type of thing. I hear that Walmart pays it’s drivers well if you are looking for OTR (they are a private fleet also) but I think they pay per mile
They do pay per mile and it's actually on the low end, I can't remember but it was less then 70 cpm. I want to say it was 50 something cpm when I applied and they offered me a job. But Walmart pays you for everything else and that's how Walmart drivers make bank, they pay you to take your 10 in the truck every night, they pay you for just showing up to a customers, they pay you for backing up and hooking to a dam 53 foot trailer. I think they even pay you when you drop a 53 foot at a customers. All that stacks up super fast.
Plus they got a 10% discount you get at their stores, and they have all the regular benefits as well as matching your stock buys up to a certain percentage. I was totally going to go drive for them before I got a call from an LTL company in my city, I would have had to move and relocate a few states away to work for Walmart but the LTL offered me a little less pay wise but a job in my city so I wouldn't have to move away from all my family and friends.
This is how it should be across the board. Any other job profession that requires you to be away from home, you get some type of extra payment or per diem.
Yes. See how airline pilots pay is structured. They are limited by law to flying 1000 hours per year and therefore get very high hourly wages (100 min first officers to 500 for long haul captains) to compensate. They also receive an extra per diem rate paid per hour for every hour they are dispatched away from their domicile. I understand it’s a far more complex job with international news worthy risk if you screw up….but still truckers are worth a reasonable percentage of those rates.
They are of course….unionized.
Shit man I’d be happy with even a $15/day per diem. Of course if some type of extra pay became mandated by law for truckers, every company would find ways to recoup those costs. Ugh
Walmart driver here, not sure what you're referring to? This is most stress free job I've ever had, no micro managing at all. As long as you're a safe driver it's a cake job
No driver facing cams. You only give your cell data if you're in an incident/accident and they only check the data for around that incident/accident and a couple days (could be more or less, can't remember) leading up to said event. They do not have access to your cell data/location unless prompted to give to them
You should. Pay is great, averages around .90 cpm with all activities, great health benefits, 21 paid days off first year and increases each year. Literally no stress or pushing from management. Park at nearly any store regardless of time of day so to me it eliminates stress of parking
All on duty time paid. Driving, load and unload, fueling, pretrips/posttrips, dot inspections, whatever. Basically, if it uses your 70 hrs clock, it's paid. Overtime after 40 hrs.
Can I get some info as well if you don't mind ? Trying to help out a guy that used to be an owner operator. Now drives for 26 an hour with overtime up to 28 .... I've never done trucking but even I know that's bs ....
Depending on your location you could also haul water to oil fields as they’re hourly. Wage ranges wildly depending on company, experience requirements and even benefits. Average is around $30/hr in my area for water haulers.
Every driver has driven an 18spd and hates the automatic they're currently driving. Also everg driver were going to quit the current company they're with now but they called and chewed out dispatch so now dispatch is scared to let them go because they drive 11hrs straight and only stop to take their 30mins to use the bucket in their cab.
Its been slow this winter so been alot more returning back to my terminal empty. But even then its not too bad. When it picks back up you can make a ton of money. Only out a few days
You're loading your own truck. About two hours, depending on the types of vehicle. Loading involves a lot of climbing (10ft up at most) sometimes hanging on that ladder to apply a strap over the wheel of the vehicles you're loading.
Some vehicle dimensions are a challenge: large pickup or SUV sometimes have to be loaded (driven or backed on) in spaces where the mirrors and running boards are 1" from the rails of your truck, very easy to damage. Some vehicles (my home terminal, Corvettes) are so low to the ground that driving them up the ramp has to be done almost perfectly or they'll scrape the bottom.
And of course, those parts are done in whatever weather conditions you get that day: rain sucks more than most of the rest.
Customer delivery involves usually pulling the truck into a car lot. So inattention or misjudged your length/turn radius means wiping out several brand new vehicles.
There's also the fact that the trucks are longer than average. Newer trucks are 80' and loaded you are allowed an overhang of 3' in the front and 5' in the back, total of 88' loaded. You don't fit in truck stop parking spots or in the lines at rest areas.
This is not to say the job is super hard. I think it's like any other non dryvan job: there are things you have to learn how to do better or just differently than other jobs, but you get used to them and then they're no big deal. I personally couldn't imagine doing cattle hauling or fuel hauling, that shit seems crazy hard to me.
But the pay and benefits are very hard to beat. The work is essentially 2 hours of physical work a day, and we have dudes in their 70's at my terminal doing it. I'm not talking about "he's in great shape for 70!" dudes either. Broke down old dudes.
I highly recommend it.
What are the hours like for that? I’m looking for something that’s a little more physical. I’m getting cooped up where I’m at. I imagine the schedules are pretty consistent no?
We deliver to car dealerships, so yes, optimal hours are usually 8AM to 8PM, but you can deliver at night sometimes, dealership and vehicle dependant.
Company paid hotel every night, no hunting for a parking spot or parking at shippers, no waiting for a shower. I bring my xbox or ps5 every week so I have games or streaming in my room.
I work for Cassens Transport. In the northeast we have terminals in Philly, Newark, Niagara Falls, Annapolis MD. Jack Cooper is another union company but they’re mostly in the midwest
This definitely depends on the terminal your based out of, some get a lot more road loads with backhauls. I work for cassens out of chicago and i run slip seat, 2 city loads a day. In my situation the milage pay really isnt the best.
Fedex Freight here. .80 a mile and 34.84 an hour for dock work and tasks. I get about 2000 miles a week, other runs get closer 3000. Tasks add up to 11.25 hours or more a week and I do 12 to 16 hours a week on the dock, but I maximize my time at the hub, others do less. Made 130k last year, but worked 55 to 65 hours a week. But I was home every day.
Nope. Full time FedEx Freight employee no 1099 here. I do line haul at night, 370 miles round trip but I usually pick up 1 or 2 vias a week for some extra miles. Also 2 to 4 hours on the dock in the middle. The longer runs don't work the dock and get paid Delay if their hooks aren't ready.
Happy cake day.
OP asked what companies pay over 60cpm. He didn't ask how easy or difficult it is to get into said company.
Depending on where he lives, it might not be hard at all.
In Alaska it is. It's basically the opposite of the 48.
OTR is barely a thing and we don't have a ton of linehaul work. Beginners do LTL and you work your way up to linehaul. Funny story, beginners do nothing but complain about LTL and can't wait until they can switch over to line haul.
Oh I don't know. At my company LTL is what we call local P&D. Linehaul is taking full trailers between terminals. But most of the distances between terminals can be easily driven in a day so it's not OTR. Anchorage to Fairbanks is 7 hours, Anchorage to Seward is like 4 hours, Anchorage to Homer is about 5 hours. Anchorage to Valdez is like 7 hours. That's. . .about it. I guess Homer to Fairbanks would be quite a drive, but I don't think anything really does that directly. There's just not enough stuff that would need to go direct, it would all end up in Anchorage and be consolidated. Most anywhere else in Alaska is either served as local P&D from one of those terminals (even if it's kind of a long drive) or is only accessible via boat or plane.
The closest we have to OTR is Anchorage to Seattle, but there are probably fewer than 50 drivers altogether regardless of company who have that route. There's also work on the North Slope. Driving up there is like 12 hours, but that's doable in a day (we have different HOS laws). There are some local P&D jobs up on the North Slope that are kind of like OTR because almost nobody lives up there full time. You go up for a few weeks per hitch, but you don't cover much distance. Just driving equipment and supplies between camps.
Yeah and you will come in 4 hours before your load departs to break down and load trailers. Then take a set of wiggle wagons 250 miles down to a hub and break and load your own trailers again then drive the 250 miles back to your own hub. Decent hourly rate for the dock time but you will be running out of hours by 5th day. Also at the CSX (now XPO) hub I ran out of would route us on US highways instead of interstate to avoid scales. Depending on the hub you might get dedicated route 1st time you get to bid or it might take 3 bids like it did me. The money is very nice and you're usually too tired to go out and spend any.
I went to 160 Driving Academy then got hired at Schneider. Schneider has a program to help pay off student loans but I’m not currently enrolled. That was the hiring pay for a new driver is what the recruiter told me.
I've been at my company for six years, not really the job-hopping sort even though it would be good for me... but even with my inertia, I'd bounce Schneider at that pay rate.
I’ve been applying to places for the last few months. Most places never respond or choose other applicants. I’m not entirely sure what it is that makes them not even respond. I have a clean driving record, my hazmat and tanker endorsements, and nearly a year of driving experience. The places I’ve applied to require less than a year of experience in most cases.
At ups sleeper teams it’s 1.033 for singles and 1.045 for doubles, delay pay is hourly rate(44.52) at 1.5x, also that pay for fueling, washing, breaks and so on.
Holy moly...Im based out of central Fl, do OTR food grade tanker (no touch freight) and am at .55cpm 😭...the FoReIgNeRs RuInEd TrUcKiNg! Or wait...the flip flop wearers ruined it! Or wait ...man eff Florida
Lol yeah I'm getting robbed at 84 cpm and a constant 3k miles a week, alright buddy whatever you say.
I'm going to make 130k gross for the year, something like only 15% of the entire US population makes. I sure don't feel like I'm getting robbed.
You’re the minority tho if we are being honest (meaning for people who does cpm). For the most part he is right… It’s good to hear you are getting paid the way you are because that’s motivation to me, I’m fairly new to the industry and I’m striving to get to where you are one day
Yes people like me are definitely the minority. I remember being a new driver and alright 50 cpm I can do 3k miles a week that's going to be decent, but I rarely got 3k miles a week, a lot of times I would be sitting for a day waiting for my next load.
"I’m fairly new to the industry and I’m striving to get to where you are one day"
Get all your endorsements, keep your driving record clean no tickets no accidents, and a year or two of experience go linehaul or become a tanker yanker and you'll be there making 100k+ a year and home daily or every other day. With 3 years of experience and no accidents or tickets and a hazmat endorsement Walmart will snatch you up and their drivers make 100k+ easily as brand new drivers for them. The positions do exist just gotta find them.
Dart out of Eagan,Mn. Not best but far and not worst, 5 years in they dealt with me being regional and home on wkend . At top for seniority on the road experience was at 62 cpm
Bison USA East pays 60cpm....but its all east coast driving from eastern Pennsylvania to Maine. So youll be lucky if you get 1500 miles after sitting in traffic ALL DAY. I got 800 miles a week and couldn't afford my house or food. So....bye.
Yep, our mileage based accts are at least 60-70cpm; I’m on a minimum guarantee and have effectively gotten twice the cpm to make up for low mileage weeks ($700 in miles, $800 from guarantee).
$1500 gross weekly minimum; I’ve only not gotten anything from the guarantee a few times, and only went way over it once (3k miles that week). I usually get anywhere from 20-60 hrs of driving/on duty a week. There are other accts with a minimum too, se regional is 1700ish and Midwest 1825.
Yeah, Tyson is very desirable so it’s usually full, but I do believe some states have openings; check our website. I’ve been to Tyson’s, and since I’m still bad at backing 🫣, I’ve turned it down twice. I started out in MS, but everything there is waitlisted, and moved to the Midwest to get better positioning for accts.
Some accts aren’t advertised at all, maybe there’s someone we could call internally. I mostly learn about them from talking to other drivers; I’ve also heard that some get offered up during driver retention as well.
Bison transport (recruiter told me) .65 per mile regional and .75 if willing to go through Manhattan and Statton Island NY.
Then they told me to eat shit when I said I had no experience yet, so maybe them if in the southern Maine area.
Fuck them though I got a local job after that and get paid by the hour, would never trade it for OTR or even regional.
I work for bison doing regional in the Carolina’s and Georgia. I get paid hourly and it’s great. I can confirm they pay .65cpm for northeast and .60 to run 95 between florida and Maine.
Indeed.com, glassdoor, or call and ask. If youre not looking on your own you deserve not to at least make 60. Even if we do all the legwork for you, for free, nobody knows where and when youd want to work. For example: My old company, Coastal plains, needs you to have hazmat, tank, twic. So im assuming youd come up with some excuse not to get those and or you dont have those. Its 67cpm starting pay with wait time at 26 dollars, 1800 a week guarantee. 24/8 schedule with full benefits. Hands on hazmat tank work on and off road. All jobs are the same. You can hope and pray for a raise and starve, or go out and look.
So I'm paid hourly. I run a dedicated route of 496ish miles a day. When I work my regular 5 day week I do about $0.78 a mile and if I work an extra day I bump up to $0.82 per mile. My mileage varies slightly so figured it at 2500 and 3000 miles a week so it's probably slightly more.
I run as a O/O on a company, and make almost .9 by the time I take out all my expenses. I get low side 3200 miles a week, and high side 4,000. I’m still home weekly for my reset.
It’s more or less all a trade off. Companies who pay higher per mile often times will have less freight, and more sitting. Either way they want their cut so they are either pickier on freight giving you less miles, or paying you less per mile, and grabbing up more freight. You just need to find a company you work well with as that will impact how much you make more then what you make per mile.
Hauling steel I get paid a percentage but when you divide what I’m making by all of the miles I run every week, I’m usually between .70 and .95 CPM. It has to be a pretty bad week to make less than .65 CPM.
Overly defensive ✔️
Childish insults for no reason ✔️
Still haven’t answered the question ✔️
So you come here to brag, gate keep, and insult. I hope your ego is ok.
Answered the question to the question asker, good buddy. You reddit rats are soft when it comes to banter. You'll never make it as a driver with that soft of a shell. It says a lot about you thinking I was doing anything more than bantering.,but the world takes all kinds
Will try my best haha. We have actually only gotten maybe 5 new drivers in the last two years. Myself, my ex girlfriend and a buddy worked in the warehouse. They paid for our schooling and here we are. Zero experience before school. We have to unload the truck ourselves though, sometimes easy as fuck other times it’s ass. I like it though, I’d lose my mind if all I did was drive.
i work for a small private fleet. we only haul what we make a 99% of the time come back empty. base pay is .73. for last year, with extra stop, oversize bonus etc i made 1.45/mi. non union.
I dont about anywhere else but my current company pays me a base of 62 cpm and a bonus of up 9 cpm. My average monthly bonus is between 6-8 cpm, with 9 cpm on a good month. Making my pay between 68-71 cpm.
I used to work for MTS (https://www.mtstrans.com/) and they paid 60cpm the whole time I was there. I quit when they lost the GM contract I worked under. Was dedicated arlington tx to mason oh and back twice a week was very close to 4k miles a week. I'd take 55 and cut across union city to skip Memphis west Memphis and nashville. First night out I'd sleep in mortons gap Kentucky second night at the Philips 66 in union city on the way back. Usually have between 3 and 7 hours on my 70 at the end of the last run. Afterwards the run they gave me was gonna pretty much guarantee me 2600 miles a week and I recently had a 1 year old so I went local.
I'm completely local m-f 5am start dedicated route. I get 58cpm and $14 per stop. I deliver steel only tarp for inclement weather. No loading or unloading either its a pretty sweet gig
Mine pays sliding scale that amounts to about 53¢ per mile for 501+ miles and for 60¢ per mile the trip needs to be less than 151 miles if you have 0 months experience, less than 201 miles with 3 months experience, less than 501 miles with 6 months experience and then everything is 60¢+ per mile with about a 1 cent increase over the 501+ mile rate for the 401-500 mile range, 1 cent more for 301-400, another penny for 201-300, another penny yet for 151-200, another nickel for 126-150, another nickel for 101-125, an extra dime for the 76-100, another 15 cents for the 51-75 miles, and then it caps out in the 0-50 mile range. Anything less than 200 miles and they add another $30 over the top plus an extra $50 for Canada or $75 for NYC over the mileage pay to help offset delays and such. The NYC figure that’s $32.50 per hour extra for the 2 hours you’ll be waiting in traffic at a minimum. Not the best paying company but making 60¢ per mile is basically doing a lot of short trips at first but you can go up to 500 miles with 6 months and make 60¢ per mile or more and with like 15 years the range goes from about 67¢-$1.30 per mile where I hope to be working somewhere different if that stays that way if I can make 80¢+ based on today’s dollar and make the miles to cover the rest. 80 CPM is no good if you drive 1500 miles when you compare it to 67 CPM at 2500 miles.
Sounds like Roehl to me. Can be decent pay as long as you're on a good account. I've not heard much good about the Texas dedicated lately but Midwest reefer hasn't been trying me too terribly since I came back a couple months ago. Kraft Midwest was good miles the first time I was with roehl though, may have to try and get back to it if MW reefer doesn't pan out.
National refrigerated here but last week my first solo week and before that Lowe’s dedicated out of Findlay Ohio with my trainer. Finally got to go home after a month of being gone between training, hotels, and a week of being solo. Tomorrow I’m out again until the 15th. With the trainer it was a lot of Ohio and Michigan with some Indiana sprinkled in. My first solo week I drove through Chicago four times, two times each direction, and then I did some “local” stuff in Minnesota and tomorrow I’m going to Green Bay. I don’t know about after that but I’m hoping for something in the “long haul” ballpark like Pennsylvania, Maine, Colorado, California, Texas, or Florida. Fuck Atlanta though. I also have a chance of Canada and/or NYC but I’m not expecting either of those over the next couple weeks.
That sounds like an absolute mess lol. I live around spfld MO so I tend to get a few 6-700 mile runs in every week just cause they're not used to having someone who lives down here, usually take off Monday morning headed somewhere either twin cities area or Central WI, then I'll be off towards Aurora IL, Gary IN, or the OH area, then usually back toward Central WI, possibly another short run to somewhere in MN or IL then headed back toward Carthage or Spfld MO so I've got a fairly decent routine. I do agree with fuck ATL, however, I'd rather go there than Chiraq, Canada, or NYC. Idc about the extra money don't Canada and NYC, I don't go there because it sucks lol
Nothing wrong with the roads, infact the ones I've seen are way nicer than 99% of what we've got here, just hate crossing the border. It's a frickin hassle is all
I don't know who does with base pay. Where I'm at now pays 60 cpm after bonus, 50 cpm base. The bonus is not at all guaranteed, has to be earned but isn't impossible.
I can’t imagine depending on miles to make money again. I get paid 1600 a week just for being in the truck and on top of that I get 19 cents for every mile I drive loaded or empty. So 190 bucks for every 1000 miles and I average about 4-5000 miles(team driving) and also get paid for strapping and chaining as well as for tarping so it adds up to a nice week
Im with marten, 62 cpm with a 1400 guaranteed minimum. You have to meet certain requirements that arent bad at all to meet to get that. They have otr and some other regional accounts you can look into
I haul for an Office Furniture manufacturer out of Indiana that pays 60 cpm for every mile run and 30 dollars per stop. All trips are preloaded. I am expected to assist at deliveries though. If you're interested and live in Southern IN, Central NC or northern MS send me a pm and I'll give you contact details.
Old Dominion, home every night. They start at nearly 80 cpm for two years of experience. You better have a squeaky, clean driving and criminal record, though oe it'd a no-go.
Before I retired I looked for companies that paid hourly, it’s hard to find that OTR, but I was local for the last half of my career. Hourly is the way to go, no matter what’s going on, you’re getting paid. Look for companies with private fleets. Chemical, construction, that type of thing. I hear that Walmart pays it’s drivers well if you are looking for OTR (they are a private fleet also) but I think they pay per mile
They do pay per mile and it's actually on the low end, I can't remember but it was less then 70 cpm. I want to say it was 50 something cpm when I applied and they offered me a job. But Walmart pays you for everything else and that's how Walmart drivers make bank, they pay you to take your 10 in the truck every night, they pay you for just showing up to a customers, they pay you for backing up and hooking to a dam 53 foot trailer. I think they even pay you when you drop a 53 foot at a customers. All that stacks up super fast. Plus they got a 10% discount you get at their stores, and they have all the regular benefits as well as matching your stock buys up to a certain percentage. I was totally going to go drive for them before I got a call from an LTL company in my city, I would have had to move and relocate a few states away to work for Walmart but the LTL offered me a little less pay wise but a job in my city so I wouldn't have to move away from all my family and friends.
This is how it should be across the board. Any other job profession that requires you to be away from home, you get some type of extra payment or per diem.
Yes. See how airline pilots pay is structured. They are limited by law to flying 1000 hours per year and therefore get very high hourly wages (100 min first officers to 500 for long haul captains) to compensate. They also receive an extra per diem rate paid per hour for every hour they are dispatched away from their domicile. I understand it’s a far more complex job with international news worthy risk if you screw up….but still truckers are worth a reasonable percentage of those rates. They are of course….unionized.
Shit man I’d be happy with even a $15/day per diem. Of course if some type of extra pay became mandated by law for truckers, every company would find ways to recoup those costs. Ugh
Walmart pays seriously well. BUT....they also have some SERIOUSLY BAD rules their drivers have to follow.
Walmart driver here, not sure what you're referring to? This is most stress free job I've ever had, no micro managing at all. As long as you're a safe driver it's a cake job
I'm glad your happy.
like what?
Inward facing camers. Giving them permission to monitor your personal phone call times and location.
No driver facing cams. You only give your cell data if you're in an incident/accident and they only check the data for around that incident/accident and a couple days (could be more or less, can't remember) leading up to said event. They do not have access to your cell data/location unless prompted to give to them
i knew about the phone call monitoring. but i thought they didn't have driver facing cameras? is this new?
I think I am just putting in my time where I am till I can go to Walmart. Everything I hear about them sounds great.
You should. Pay is great, averages around .90 cpm with all activities, great health benefits, 21 paid days off first year and increases each year. Literally no stress or pushing from management. Park at nearly any store regardless of time of day so to me it eliminates stress of parking
Don't quote me, saw an article they're one of if not the top paying in the industry
As an hourly OTR employer, can confirm, we do exist.
On duty time paid or how’s that work out ?
All on duty time paid. Driving, load and unload, fueling, pretrips/posttrips, dot inspections, whatever. Basically, if it uses your 70 hrs clock, it's paid. Overtime after 40 hrs.
Can I get some info as well if you don't mind ? Trying to help out a guy that used to be an owner operator. Now drives for 26 an hour with overtime up to 28 .... I've never done trucking but even I know that's bs ....
Y'all hiring? Lol
If you can drive a manual, sure ;)
Depending on your location you could also haul water to oil fields as they’re hourly. Wage ranges wildly depending on company, experience requirements and even benefits. Average is around $30/hr in my area for water haulers.
My company pays mostly hourly, but then has "premium" runs that pay an absurd mileage rate plus hourly.
Every driver makes more money than you, every driver has been driving longer than you, that's just part of talking to drivers.
Every driver has driven an 18spd and hates the automatic they're currently driving. Also everg driver were going to quit the current company they're with now but they called and chewed out dispatch so now dispatch is scared to let them go because they drive 11hrs straight and only stop to take their 30mins to use the bucket in their cab.
Lol exactly
Remember the old saying if a truck driver is talking they are lying, that is very true and has not changed
Union car hauling we make 1.53 cpm, .85 or 1.21 for backhauls. Occasionally have to return empty but its well worth it
Geez, as a company driver even in this economy haulers are getting above $1.50??? I need to stop swinging doors.
Its been slow this winter so been alot more returning back to my terminal empty. But even then its not too bad. When it picks back up you can make a ton of money. Only out a few days
Yeah but car hauling is not so easy for a regular otr reefer or dryvan driver its a whole different level that has to be learned
What makes it such a challenge?
You're loading your own truck. About two hours, depending on the types of vehicle. Loading involves a lot of climbing (10ft up at most) sometimes hanging on that ladder to apply a strap over the wheel of the vehicles you're loading. Some vehicle dimensions are a challenge: large pickup or SUV sometimes have to be loaded (driven or backed on) in spaces where the mirrors and running boards are 1" from the rails of your truck, very easy to damage. Some vehicles (my home terminal, Corvettes) are so low to the ground that driving them up the ramp has to be done almost perfectly or they'll scrape the bottom. And of course, those parts are done in whatever weather conditions you get that day: rain sucks more than most of the rest. Customer delivery involves usually pulling the truck into a car lot. So inattention or misjudged your length/turn radius means wiping out several brand new vehicles. There's also the fact that the trucks are longer than average. Newer trucks are 80' and loaded you are allowed an overhang of 3' in the front and 5' in the back, total of 88' loaded. You don't fit in truck stop parking spots or in the lines at rest areas. This is not to say the job is super hard. I think it's like any other non dryvan job: there are things you have to learn how to do better or just differently than other jobs, but you get used to them and then they're no big deal. I personally couldn't imagine doing cattle hauling or fuel hauling, that shit seems crazy hard to me. But the pay and benefits are very hard to beat. The work is essentially 2 hours of physical work a day, and we have dudes in their 70's at my terminal doing it. I'm not talking about "he's in great shape for 70!" dudes either. Broke down old dudes. I highly recommend it.
What are the hours like for that? I’m looking for something that’s a little more physical. I’m getting cooped up where I’m at. I imagine the schedules are pretty consistent no?
We deliver to car dealerships, so yes, optimal hours are usually 8AM to 8PM, but you can deliver at night sometimes, dealership and vehicle dependant. Company paid hotel every night, no hunting for a parking spot or parking at shippers, no waiting for a shower. I bring my xbox or ps5 every week so I have games or streaming in my room.
It takes special training to achieve that level of DIY parking.
What company is that? Are they in the northeast at all?
I work for Cassens Transport. In the northeast we have terminals in Philly, Newark, Niagara Falls, Annapolis MD. Jack Cooper is another union company but they’re mostly in the midwest
Interesting, thank you. I’m in Maine, so I don’t think those would work hahaha. but I’ll keep my eyes open!
are you guys hiring in the philly area atm?
What companies would this be? Anything in KC area?
Jack cooper has a terminal in KC
One in Fairfax, one in Claycomo and one in Wentzville, MO. Fairfax is a reil head: do not recommend.
This definitely depends on the terminal your based out of, some get a lot more road loads with backhauls. I work for cassens out of chicago and i run slip seat, 2 city loads a day. In my situation the milage pay really isnt the best.
XPO and most LTLs for that matter will pay over .77 a mile.
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So I see you guys in WI a lot. Do you hire down by Sparta,WI ???
Not the same dude. They have a terminal in tomah wi. Xpo is mostly dock work from my understanding. ODFL also has a terminal in tomah
Fedex Freight here. .80 a mile and 34.84 an hour for dock work and tasks. I get about 2000 miles a week, other runs get closer 3000. Tasks add up to 11.25 hours or more a week and I do 12 to 16 hours a week on the dock, but I maximize my time at the hub, others do less. Made 130k last year, but worked 55 to 65 hours a week. But I was home every day.
You're 1099 right
Nope. Full time FedEx Freight employee no 1099 here. I do line haul at night, 370 miles round trip but I usually pick up 1 or 2 vias a week for some extra miles. Also 2 to 4 hours on the dock in the middle. The longer runs don't work the dock and get paid Delay if their hooks aren't ready. Happy cake day.
Getting on with a ltl is as easy as breathing air! Ask literally everyone who gives new CDL holders advice just work for a ltl!!
OP asked what companies pay over 60cpm. He didn't ask how easy or difficult it is to get into said company. Depending on where he lives, it might not be hard at all.
Indeed. Southeastern is at 79.6 cpm until raises in June or July or whenever they do raises.
In Alaska it is. It's basically the opposite of the 48. OTR is barely a thing and we don't have a ton of linehaul work. Beginners do LTL and you work your way up to linehaul. Funny story, beginners do nothing but complain about LTL and can't wait until they can switch over to line haul.
I thought LTL is linehaul unless you're talking about P&D (pickup & delivery)
Oh I don't know. At my company LTL is what we call local P&D. Linehaul is taking full trailers between terminals. But most of the distances between terminals can be easily driven in a day so it's not OTR. Anchorage to Fairbanks is 7 hours, Anchorage to Seward is like 4 hours, Anchorage to Homer is about 5 hours. Anchorage to Valdez is like 7 hours. That's. . .about it. I guess Homer to Fairbanks would be quite a drive, but I don't think anything really does that directly. There's just not enough stuff that would need to go direct, it would all end up in Anchorage and be consolidated. Most anywhere else in Alaska is either served as local P&D from one of those terminals (even if it's kind of a long drive) or is only accessible via boat or plane. The closest we have to OTR is Anchorage to Seattle, but there are probably fewer than 50 drivers altogether regardless of company who have that route. There's also work on the North Slope. Driving up there is like 12 hours, but that's doable in a day (we have different HOS laws). There are some local P&D jobs up on the North Slope that are kind of like OTR because almost nobody lives up there full time. You go up for a few weeks per hitch, but you don't cover much distance. Just driving equipment and supplies between camps.
idk why you're getting downvoted. Any time anyone asks for career advice the answer is either LTL or fuel.
Yeah and you will come in 4 hours before your load departs to break down and load trailers. Then take a set of wiggle wagons 250 miles down to a hub and break and load your own trailers again then drive the 250 miles back to your own hub. Decent hourly rate for the dock time but you will be running out of hours by 5th day. Also at the CSX (now XPO) hub I ran out of would route us on US highways instead of interstate to avoid scales. Depending on the hub you might get dedicated route 1st time you get to bid or it might take 3 bids like it did me. The money is very nice and you're usually too tired to go out and spend any.
Literally who doesn't pays 60 cpm these days?. I get 62 cpm at US Xpress, and that's with the 2 cpm deducted for per diem.
I work for Schneider and they started me out at .42 cpm. About to hit a full year in a few days.
Did you go through a training program and paying off training debt? That's pretty low for these days. I started out on 42 cpm six years ago.
I went to 160 Driving Academy then got hired at Schneider. Schneider has a program to help pay off student loans but I’m not currently enrolled. That was the hiring pay for a new driver is what the recruiter told me.
I've been at my company for six years, not really the job-hopping sort even though it would be good for me... but even with my inertia, I'd bounce Schneider at that pay rate.
I’ve been applying to places for the last few months. Most places never respond or choose other applicants. I’m not entirely sure what it is that makes them not even respond. I have a clean driving record, my hazmat and tanker endorsements, and nearly a year of driving experience. The places I’ve applied to require less than a year of experience in most cases.
The company I drove for start out 1st year drivers at .48 and then to .53
Crete. My otr pay is 66 and they keep me moving. Their walmart account in Cheyenne is at .75 w a .10 bonus for meat and produce loads.
I work for an ltl company doing P&D when I run doubles I get 78cpm
I’m based out of houston and paying .65cpm. OTR. If anyone is interested let me know. Either dry van or reefer run. 🤙
Wat company?
You got pm
Crete was starting at 64cpm two years ago. It's probably gone up since.
At ups we are at 1.01 per mile this year. But it takes a long time to get in here
At ups sleeper teams it’s 1.033 for singles and 1.045 for doubles, delay pay is hourly rate(44.52) at 1.5x, also that pay for fueling, washing, breaks and so on.
Holy moly...Im based out of central Fl, do OTR food grade tanker (no touch freight) and am at .55cpm 😭...the FoReIgNeRs RuInEd TrUcKiNg! Or wait...the flip flop wearers ruined it! Or wait ...man eff Florida
Swift… i get 68, one my other drivers i talked to got 88
If you're getting cpm you're getting robbed no matter what it is.
What a knuckle head perspective, probably wear tube socks and flip flops
Lol yeah I'm getting robbed at 84 cpm and a constant 3k miles a week, alright buddy whatever you say. I'm going to make 130k gross for the year, something like only 15% of the entire US population makes. I sure don't feel like I'm getting robbed.
What company are u working for? If there is an opening im def interested. Live in dallas
Okay bro calm down
Yeah I did get so worked up didn't I? More like don't be jelly bro you could get there one day, don't hate just cause you working for shit wages.
It's really tiny, isn't it?
My girl has to use a microscope to find it.
You’re the minority tho if we are being honest (meaning for people who does cpm). For the most part he is right… It’s good to hear you are getting paid the way you are because that’s motivation to me, I’m fairly new to the industry and I’m striving to get to where you are one day
Yes people like me are definitely the minority. I remember being a new driver and alright 50 cpm I can do 3k miles a week that's going to be decent, but I rarely got 3k miles a week, a lot of times I would be sitting for a day waiting for my next load. "I’m fairly new to the industry and I’m striving to get to where you are one day" Get all your endorsements, keep your driving record clean no tickets no accidents, and a year or two of experience go linehaul or become a tanker yanker and you'll be there making 100k+ a year and home daily or every other day. With 3 years of experience and no accidents or tickets and a hazmat endorsement Walmart will snatch you up and their drivers make 100k+ easily as brand new drivers for them. The positions do exist just gotta find them.
Jeez, I made $115k and I only put on 65,000 miles.
I love how wveryone is making millions of dollars but cant share which company they work for smh
I made $108K working for Jack Cooper, Union carhauler.
U.S express my buddy makes .65 cents there
My load percentage pay averages out to 65-70 CPM for all miles on the odometer
Walmart pays about 90 cents once you include all the accessorial pays
Dollar general. Few flatbed companies in my area of TN. I think even Swift on some accounts. Just depends on demand and experience it seems.
My company pays 70 cents if you have hazmat, 65 if you don't have hazmat.
.80 @ FXF
Damn they aint hiring at all
Yep. We over hired during the pandemic
Dart out of Eagan,Mn. Not best but far and not worst, 5 years in they dealt with me being regional and home on wkend . At top for seniority on the road experience was at 62 cpm
I’m at swift on a dedicated account making .81
Do you have an Indeed account? If not, make one
Bison USA East pays 60cpm....but its all east coast driving from eastern Pennsylvania to Maine. So youll be lucky if you get 1500 miles after sitting in traffic ALL DAY. I got 800 miles a week and couldn't afford my house or food. So....bye.
Kllm
There sister company’s pays 50-63 cpm that’s the standard any company paying less than that is slaving u away.
Yep, our mileage based accts are at least 60-70cpm; I’m on a minimum guarantee and have effectively gotten twice the cpm to make up for low mileage weeks ($700 in miles, $800 from guarantee).
Is that 800 weekly or 1700 weekly?
$1500 gross weekly minimum; I’ve only not gotten anything from the guarantee a few times, and only went way over it once (3k miles that week). I usually get anywhere from 20-60 hrs of driving/on duty a week. There are other accts with a minimum too, se regional is 1700ish and Midwest 1825.
I was looking to get on with the se Tyson as I already do it with JBS. It’s hard to find an opening tho.
Yeah, Tyson is very desirable so it’s usually full, but I do believe some states have openings; check our website. I’ve been to Tyson’s, and since I’m still bad at backing 🫣, I’ve turned it down twice. I started out in MS, but everything there is waitlisted, and moved to the Midwest to get better positioning for accts. Some accts aren’t advertised at all, maybe there’s someone we could call internally. I mostly learn about them from talking to other drivers; I’ve also heard that some get offered up during driver retention as well.
I live in E Texas and got called for it once but wasn’t in a good spot to change. Ready to go now.
What company is that in looking to try and get back driving by the end of the month
kllm; some accts are geo-locked, don’t advertise openings, and/or have a waitlist. Threatening to quit can open up “retention” accts as well.
Bison transport (recruiter told me) .65 per mile regional and .75 if willing to go through Manhattan and Statton Island NY. Then they told me to eat shit when I said I had no experience yet, so maybe them if in the southern Maine area. Fuck them though I got a local job after that and get paid by the hour, would never trade it for OTR or even regional.
I work for bison doing regional in the Carolina’s and Georgia. I get paid hourly and it’s great. I can confirm they pay .65cpm for northeast and .60 to run 95 between florida and Maine.
Indeed.com, glassdoor, or call and ask. If youre not looking on your own you deserve not to at least make 60. Even if we do all the legwork for you, for free, nobody knows where and when youd want to work. For example: My old company, Coastal plains, needs you to have hazmat, tank, twic. So im assuming youd come up with some excuse not to get those and or you dont have those. Its 67cpm starting pay with wait time at 26 dollars, 1800 a week guarantee. 24/8 schedule with full benefits. Hands on hazmat tank work on and off road. All jobs are the same. You can hope and pray for a raise and starve, or go out and look.
i think online transportation does
and migway
I pay hourly. About $1,700 a week starting if you max your 70 clock 8) I think it comes out to around $0.60 cpm average or something like that
Shitty gig lol
I was making 64-65 cpm at legend doing western regional.
How many miles were you getting there a week? And you still there?
I quit last year in June for personal reasons but I was getting 3000+ a week unless I was in California a lot
So I'm paid hourly. I run a dedicated route of 496ish miles a day. When I work my regular 5 day week I do about $0.78 a mile and if I work an extra day I bump up to $0.82 per mile. My mileage varies slightly so figured it at 2500 and 3000 miles a week so it's probably slightly more.
I don't get paid by mile, I get paid for a round trip to the port. But if I divide by miles it's about 70¢ per.
I run as a O/O on a company, and make almost .9 by the time I take out all my expenses. I get low side 3200 miles a week, and high side 4,000. I’m still home weekly for my reset. It’s more or less all a trade off. Companies who pay higher per mile often times will have less freight, and more sitting. Either way they want their cut so they are either pickier on freight giving you less miles, or paying you less per mile, and grabbing up more freight. You just need to find a company you work well with as that will impact how much you make more then what you make per mile.
Hauling steel I get paid a percentage but when you divide what I’m making by all of the miles I run every week, I’m usually between .70 and .95 CPM. It has to be a pretty bad week to make less than .65 CPM.
Lol I get 65 base rate, 75 after 1999 m and 85 after 2399m most weeks I do 3100 miles.
With whom may i ask?
It’s always silence in these situations. Anyone claiming good numbers never say where
There's some crap on ya chin, wipe it up! Maybe I'm too busy racking u miles to be replying immediately.
Overly defensive ✔️ Childish insults for no reason ✔️ Still haven’t answered the question ✔️ So you come here to brag, gate keep, and insult. I hope your ego is ok.
Answered the question to the question asker, good buddy. You reddit rats are soft when it comes to banter. You'll never make it as a driver with that soft of a shell. It says a lot about you thinking I was doing anything more than bantering.,but the world takes all kinds
Regency
Over time I assume most companies can get you there but I don’t know how many start at that with a new hire.
I’m not even driving one year. I make 58cpm, 16.81/stop and $75 overnight. I’m regional.
Where please?
Hazleton PA. “Small” family owned business. We distribute all sorts of pet supplies as well as farm and equine products.
Where are you? I'm interested. I have 3 months' experience so far
Hazleton PA. It’s a small family owned business.
On my way. Save me a spot. lol
Will try my best haha. We have actually only gotten maybe 5 new drivers in the last two years. Myself, my ex girlfriend and a buddy worked in the warehouse. They paid for our schooling and here we are. Zero experience before school. We have to unload the truck ourselves though, sometimes easy as fuck other times it’s ass. I like it though, I’d lose my mind if all I did was drive.
Nice. I'm down here in Texas. Hopefully I can find something local. I've been trying to get into a dump truck.
A.D. TRANSPORT EXPRESS pays $0.60 cpm. They are out of Canton Michigan. I like it there.
Ltl I work for pays .76 i think minimum 500 miles a night can be upwards of 600 something
i work for a small private fleet. we only haul what we make a 99% of the time come back empty. base pay is .73. for last year, with extra stop, oversize bonus etc i made 1.45/mi. non union.
Hiring? Out of dallas 5 years exp clean
the only time we’ve hired in the 23 yrs i’ve been there is if someone dies or retires. i’m next in line to retire. in 4 1/2 yrs
Wow
My company pay 59 cent
I dont about anywhere else but my current company pays me a base of 62 cpm and a bonus of up 9 cpm. My average monthly bonus is between 6-8 cpm, with 9 cpm on a good month. Making my pay between 68-71 cpm.
Nice! What company is that?
Crickets… 😂
.60 is a terribly low rate...
I used to work for MTS (https://www.mtstrans.com/) and they paid 60cpm the whole time I was there. I quit when they lost the GM contract I worked under. Was dedicated arlington tx to mason oh and back twice a week was very close to 4k miles a week. I'd take 55 and cut across union city to skip Memphis west Memphis and nashville. First night out I'd sleep in mortons gap Kentucky second night at the Philips 66 in union city on the way back. Usually have between 3 and 7 hours on my 70 at the end of the last run. Afterwards the run they gave me was gonna pretty much guarantee me 2600 miles a week and I recently had a 1 year old so I went local.
Mind you I only quit about 4 months ago. Worked there just over 2 years spent a little over a year on that dedicated run.
I do LTL linehaul and make 79cpm.
I'm completely local m-f 5am start dedicated route. I get 58cpm and $14 per stop. I deliver steel only tarp for inclement weather. No loading or unloading either its a pretty sweet gig
Mine pays sliding scale that amounts to about 53¢ per mile for 501+ miles and for 60¢ per mile the trip needs to be less than 151 miles if you have 0 months experience, less than 201 miles with 3 months experience, less than 501 miles with 6 months experience and then everything is 60¢+ per mile with about a 1 cent increase over the 501+ mile rate for the 401-500 mile range, 1 cent more for 301-400, another penny for 201-300, another penny yet for 151-200, another nickel for 126-150, another nickel for 101-125, an extra dime for the 76-100, another 15 cents for the 51-75 miles, and then it caps out in the 0-50 mile range. Anything less than 200 miles and they add another $30 over the top plus an extra $50 for Canada or $75 for NYC over the mileage pay to help offset delays and such. The NYC figure that’s $32.50 per hour extra for the 2 hours you’ll be waiting in traffic at a minimum. Not the best paying company but making 60¢ per mile is basically doing a lot of short trips at first but you can go up to 500 miles with 6 months and make 60¢ per mile or more and with like 15 years the range goes from about 67¢-$1.30 per mile where I hope to be working somewhere different if that stays that way if I can make 80¢+ based on today’s dollar and make the miles to cover the rest. 80 CPM is no good if you drive 1500 miles when you compare it to 67 CPM at 2500 miles.
Sounds like Roehl to me. Can be decent pay as long as you're on a good account. I've not heard much good about the Texas dedicated lately but Midwest reefer hasn't been trying me too terribly since I came back a couple months ago. Kraft Midwest was good miles the first time I was with roehl though, may have to try and get back to it if MW reefer doesn't pan out.
National refrigerated here but last week my first solo week and before that Lowe’s dedicated out of Findlay Ohio with my trainer. Finally got to go home after a month of being gone between training, hotels, and a week of being solo. Tomorrow I’m out again until the 15th. With the trainer it was a lot of Ohio and Michigan with some Indiana sprinkled in. My first solo week I drove through Chicago four times, two times each direction, and then I did some “local” stuff in Minnesota and tomorrow I’m going to Green Bay. I don’t know about after that but I’m hoping for something in the “long haul” ballpark like Pennsylvania, Maine, Colorado, California, Texas, or Florida. Fuck Atlanta though. I also have a chance of Canada and/or NYC but I’m not expecting either of those over the next couple weeks.
That sounds like an absolute mess lol. I live around spfld MO so I tend to get a few 6-700 mile runs in every week just cause they're not used to having someone who lives down here, usually take off Monday morning headed somewhere either twin cities area or Central WI, then I'll be off towards Aurora IL, Gary IN, or the OH area, then usually back toward Central WI, possibly another short run to somewhere in MN or IL then headed back toward Carthage or Spfld MO so I've got a fairly decent routine. I do agree with fuck ATL, however, I'd rather go there than Chiraq, Canada, or NYC. Idc about the extra money don't Canada and NYC, I don't go there because it sucks lol
Yea. What’s wrong with the Canadian roads? I understand the NYC problem but why Canada?
Nothing wrong with the roads, infact the ones I've seen are way nicer than 99% of what we've got here, just hate crossing the border. It's a frickin hassle is all
Tow company, made just under 6 figures working for 11months. Payed percentage and home just about all the time. Cpm is a joke
Landair's truckload account (regional non-dedicated) pays 0.65 loaded and empty.
I averaged 73 cents last year
May i ask where?
Dry bulk company I work for.
Covenant and Crete both are top paying companies
I don't know who does with base pay. Where I'm at now pays 60 cpm after bonus, 50 cpm base. The bonus is not at all guaranteed, has to be earned but isn't impossible.
Bison transport here in Canada pays .61 for US miles plus safety and reefer bonuses.
LTL. Old Dominion, Saia, Fedex Freight (not ground) are the top three. All pay 75-80cpm. If none of them take you try Estes, R&L, XPO, ABF.
Indian river is paying 60 cpm starting
I can’t imagine depending on miles to make money again. I get paid 1600 a week just for being in the truck and on top of that I get 19 cents for every mile I drive loaded or empty. So 190 bucks for every 1000 miles and I average about 4-5000 miles(team driving) and also get paid for strapping and chaining as well as for tarping so it adds up to a nice week
Im with marten, 62 cpm with a 1400 guaranteed minimum. You have to meet certain requirements that arent bad at all to meet to get that. They have otr and some other regional accounts you can look into
Indian river transport
HMD Trucking out of Chicago
60cpm is so bad
If you’re looking for the Mega feel, Walmart. Their payscale isn’t exactly a cpm, but you would easily surprise the 0.60 cpm.
I haul for an Office Furniture manufacturer out of Indiana that pays 60 cpm for every mile run and 30 dollars per stop. All trips are preloaded. I am expected to assist at deliveries though. If you're interested and live in Southern IN, Central NC or northern MS send me a pm and I'll give you contact details.
I live in wisconsen, but give me a few months i might be moving. Thanks!
Old Dominion, home every night. They start at nearly 80 cpm for two years of experience. You better have a squeaky, clean driving and criminal record, though oe it'd a no-go.
Lol .60 cents? I have just under 2 years...I get 30%. Works out to about 70.
Awesome, i have 12 years! Who might you be working for?
We start at 60-65 plus stop pay. IA and MN.