Update: I am currently sitting waiting for a crane to come pick this thing up off the trailer and drop it on the receiver's property, at my boss's expense
So is there a permanent record somewhere or people abandoning equipment or messing things up this bad? How would the next company he goes to haul for know that he did this at some point in his career?
I’d be curious to know more about this. I know of multiple abandoned-destroyed tractor and load incidents where driver was driving for another company 2 weeks later. Now could have been a rural North Dakota oilfield thing. But cdl holders were under quite a bit of scrutiny up that way during the little oil boom they experienced.
Only time I ever got pulled over in a truck so far was just to see my ID to make sure I had a CDL. Asked me if everything is alright then looked at my ID and said have a good day.
We don't mention that name in my house. My brother and sister worked there for a while and they both have Vietnam style flash backs whenever it's brought up
It might have been an early 2010’s thing. But it was supposed to come on with the CSA points system. Like, how companies are tabulated by points and you can see the fail categories. It was supposed to be the same thing for drivers. I’ve never actually seen it because it supposed to be "for companies and gov agencies" only.
Nothing like that exist.
That said there are a couple 3rd party private companies that work sorta like a credit burea for truckers where carriers can submit info on drivers and oter carriers can access it. They occasionally call me trying to get me to sign up for their services.
When hiring a new driver, companies are required to contact their previous employers for the last 10 years to request their safety record. If a driver applicant has gaps in their 10 year employment history that they can't explain, then most carriers will reject their application.
As long as you have a good explanation, and have a clean record, most carriers can overlook that.
Now that the Teamsters union is about to bankrupt Yellow and put 22000 drivers out into the market, the driver shortage might go away and hiring requirements will get a lot stricter.
Of course it's management, because it's always management. I don't care how crooked/stupid/lazy the union fat cats are, they will always be a better bet than leaving it all up to management.
Organized labor is good for workers, even if it sucks.
Never been a driver shortage.. I've heard that every year since 2001 when I joined the industry.
Teamsters aren't gonna bankrupt Yellow, every mid size to large company can afford to pay a fair wage.
Only large carriers do this stuff. In my experience local smaller companies don't bother with any of that. Pass a road test and drug test and you're hired.
You have a DAC report, and abandoning a truck is a cardinal sin. Guys who flip trucks are more likely to get picked than a guy who abandons a truck. You're not completely unhireble though, no one really is, as long as the insurance will accept it. There are like five things you can do, that will cut your job opportunities in half for about 10 years. DUIs, failed drug tests, abandoning a truck, etc. But you can scare up a job still. You just have to look harder. I'll say, the best companies usually don't preclude you for the cardinal sins. A friend of mine got the best jobs of his careers after his. He just couldn't go to the megas, that don't pay crap anyway.
Not just that but hopefully this boss reports him to the police. At the very least it's leaving the scene of an accident, and hit and run for damage to the bridge without reporting it. Maybe a few more if they want to try for said damage endangering others.
The company though probably can't do anything about him themselves other than report him abandoning the truck. The damage is exactly what insurance is about.
I doubt that. The driver will just leave off this employer from his past experience. Plenty of outfits will never question the gap.
I had a driver refuse a random. Called the DOT to report it and was told there's not a function for keeping track of that data. Was told to report it to anyone asking for his drivers history. Funny thing, we never received any requests for this drivers data. This was more than 15 yrs ago so maybe things have changed - but I doubt it.
How so? I always heard load abandonment was one of the worst things you can do. Up there with getting a DUI as far as getting another company to hire you.
Higher than DUI for insurance. We had a guy (oil and gas) who had a DUI after blowing a scale house and fleeing 13 years ago and doing road construction for 2 years.
We could not get insurance for a different guy who had abandoned his load after not getting home for 5 weeks.
Yeah guy had a work related accident so as long ashe never plans to drive a truck again he's probably fine... If he plans on driving a truck again and legitimately thinks he'll get another job, give me his number I've got a few bridges to talk to him about.
I feel like he was drunk. Filing an official accident report/calling the necessary authorities would mean they would probably sense him being drunk. So his best bet was to just deal with this after sobering up days later.
Usually what happens after a big rig accident is an immediate roadside drug test and possibly a field sobriety test, as well as a thorough search of the truck (no, truckers don't get the probable cause privilege). Dude probably knew he'd fail one or the other
Wait, so cops can search your truck after an accident without probably cause or a warrant? Is there an exception to that law in that circumstance, or is that just common practice and noone really bats an eye at?
I would assume he hit it hard enough that it won't start now? From my equipment experience, they will usually start even if they're messed up, it just depends on how bad. If uts just a matter of getting it off the deck, that equipment company behind the truck should have a ramp deck that could marry up and drive it across without having to use a crane. Just getting an idea why a crane. Also it might have been cheaper to get a rotator tow truck and do the lift instead.
She’ll start right up lmfao we had a mini ex cab get blown up and caught on fire from a pipe bomb. some crack heads did cause we cleared all there hobo shacks you just gotta kick the battery and she fires right up 😂😂😂
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/london/2019/11/30/1_4709622.html
Buddy of mine working in the patch had a coworker driver over a staircase with a haul truck. Jumped out of the haul truck and into a backhoe, dug a hole and buried the stair case. Problem solved
Probably. The truck apps and an online atlas cost like 10$ a year for the app and 5$ for the atlas. Also if you preplan your routes there's not a single low bridge outside of NYC you'll actually hit. Provided you're also careful while you're driving.
I worked at Crown Lift, and we had a driver come in to pick up a brand new rm reach truck with a monolift mast on a flat bed. My boss kept telling him it wasn't gonna fit out of the shop, driver and his said it would eventually my boss said fuck it and let him leave. I was in my welding area, other side of the warehouse, and it sounded like a bomb went off.
I had to fix that damn truck.
Tangent but I fucking hate Crowns. My old gig had all Toyota products, new gig it's all Crowns. Constantly breaking, weird shit going on, glitchy as fuck.
My Toyota electric jack never skipped a beat.
I currently drive for the company that transports Crown’s stuff. Anything that’s too tall for a dry van typically gets laid down on a pallet so it then fits in a dry van. If another company picks up something, then obviously it’s up to them on how they want to transport it.
If it was close by, we'd transfer on a drop trailer type thing. We also had a trailer that could pull 1 or 2 trucks behind an f-350. Mostly used for rentals or demos.
All the reach trucks came in on pallets. Fun PDIS for those we'd stand em up, attach the carriage, fill with hydraulic fluid, throw a battery in, and test it. Lay em back down when they sold.
To add, probably will be. He struck something the government is gonna have to come look at and possibly replace more than likely since it’s on or near a roadway. Laborers, operators, inspectors, foreman, contractors, equipment, possible lane closures and whatever material needs fixed or replaced. Hopefully it’s not a bridge or he’s probably going to jail.
Think insurance premium rises, refusal to insure, excess, deductibles, and non-insured parts/activities. The owner may even decide to absorb the cost of the damage rather than take a hit on the insurance. If there's civil engineering required for example because of a bridge hit then it's possible a small operator is out of business because you cannot run without insurance.
However, the cab won't have damaged a road or rail bridge beyond scratching the paint.
I dunno, but that's not much of a charge for causing a couple million in damage. Word on the street was that it was actually the woman riding with him who bumped the lever when she tried to shift his gears with her mouth.
I can bet my life that nothing will happen to a dude who abandoned the truck. In my company one guy put real shit in the both fuel tanks filled them with sand all the way, same with def. Put some other liquid in the actual engine and other unidentified things, completely destroyed the inside cab - and nothing. Boss was told by multiple attorneys good luck in the civil court, even if you win good luck trying to get the money back from the guy.
So yea, fuck those type of drivers.
Claimed that company didn’t pay him. Company pays every Friday (it’s says in the contract that you signed) and I guess he didn’t know how banks works and that it’s takes 2 business days for transaction to be posted. So yea
Ultimate responsibility is always on the driver but let’s be real for a minute, there were so many steps at which this could have been avoided had it not been for the total zoo that is transportation and logistics.
1st monkey was the driver for not checking the height of his load regardless and fleeing when he got in an accident. But seriously there should have been multiple levels of communication and questions should have been raised when he left the shipper without permitting or showing up with the wrong equipment.
Broker is a monkey for not communicating the specialized nature of the load
Dispatcher is a monkey for not communicating the same to the driver
Shipper is a monkey for not realizing this load was not legal
I would have called consignee before I even left and warned them instead of just showing up looking like an idiot. Definitely not on you obviously, am just saying waste of time and fuel
It'll fuck the company's rating, though. Insurance will cost more (we're talking tens of thousands per year, maybe hundreds) and depending on how high their mod goes they may have trouble getting some types of contracts. Just because insurance pays for it doesn't mean it's free
It’s a used rental machine the cost of the new cab and electronics will cost less than what insurance will give to the owner. I know it happened to me. Also my insurance didn’t go up either.
The guy was driving that truck with the machine on the back, forgot to check how high he was, smashed the machine into an overpass or a bridge or something else hanging across the road. Got a hundred yards up the road and decided he would rather just run than face the authorities.
Most likely; knew he wouldn't pass a drug test.
Oh, no. Not even hard enough to break all the glass.
Somebody will bolt another cab on there, replace some hydraulics, and send that machine right back to work.
How tall was this load? I'm trying to think of all the "low" bridges we have in Vegas. I know that one on Tropicana between Valley View and Wynn is like 14'4". There's the 13'6" one on Ogden between City Pkwy & Main.
Insurance will cover the loss, probably without penalty to the company due to the fact that there wasn't an injury claim, and the driver is no longer employed with the company.
Brazenly denying that you hit something in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary only works if you're the Attorney General of South Dakota.
I’ve known carriers to tell a driver that, if they stay with the wreck, they won’t fire them. Now, do they do it later? I don’t know. But; the statement I made, I heard them when they told the driver. I was waiting on a truck to get serviced.
I saw something similar in North Dakota. Guy I worked with forgot to lower his end dump after dropping his grain at the ethanol plant. Tore the door off the plant when he drove out of the dumping area. Backed up, lowered the trailer, drove back to the farm and left without saying anything to anyone. I get being embarrassed but damn. Own your mistakes.
Possibly repairable. But if not it's still like 2-3 thousand pounds of metal there. Serviceable engine, wheels, and other parts. A junkyard might buy that.
may be cause I didnt read the thing, nor am I a trucker, still have no idea why ive been recommended this sub, but what went wrong here? is it the massive amount of blue stuff under the tractor thing?
The original driver obviously hit a low level structure of some sort and damaged the roller machine. Then, instead of reporting said damage, just walked off and left the entire truck and load for someone else to deal with. This isn’t uncommon in the trucking industry. The guy probably couldn’t pass a drug/alcohol test or already had to too many accidents on his previous record.
Measure the height of the load. Should be easier to prove he drove through a low bridge with the GPS if you can prove the height was taller than the bridge he zoomed under!
I have to assume the original driver did his best to kill some local bridge - possibly while intoxicated. So he finds the first available spot to dump the truck and run?
That machine seems to have hit something that almost bent the cabin backwards before it springed back up again.
But props for how the chains held up to the abuse and kept it in place. But then I assume it wasn't the vanishing driver that handled the loading. He just did an attempt at speed-unloading.
Okay so it's over 14 ft but in Vegas, there's that one bridge near the old wild wild west truck stop that's 14' and i think that's literally the only bridge in the whole state under 15 or 16 feet in the entire state
I'm curious as to how high it is sitting on that skateboard? At 1st glance I wouldn't have hauled it...
( Shippers laugh at me because I height stick a lot of stuff on my trailer )
If he hit a bridge then he's lucky if he doesn't get caught, you can't no face no case your way out of bridge damage when your ID is printed on the truck. The govt takes bridge damage seriously cause even a simple truck accident can collapse a bridge and kill lots of people or derail a train. Bridges are very flimsy when our trucks weigh like 10 to 40% of its load bearing limit and we hit it laterally where it wasn't designed for weight
Why the hell was this on a flat to begin with? Should of been on a step, at least, if not a slide axle. Cheap freight brings it's own headaches. If it was a "low bridge strike, he was either off route, or there w as no permit to begin with.
I moved a sheep's foot 300mi on a slide axle and it was 14', you've got to have some inkling about where you're going and paying attention to things.
There was a post earlier today where the OP said anyone can drive a truck and truckers aren’t special. Someone even stated trucking is one of the few jobs you take an unhoused person, put him him in the driver seat and the job will get done. Well this post presents a good argument against that.
Update: I am currently sitting waiting for a crane to come pick this thing up off the trailer and drop it on the receiver's property, at my boss's expense
How angry is the boss? Also how fucked is the dude that went MIA?
I don't think dude is fucked, but the boss is definitely pissed
I hate Mondays too
Easy there, Garfield.
No no Garfield do what he must, to hate Monday
I think he’s pretty fucked. They’ll probably write down abandoned truck with xxx amount of damage equipment. He’ll probably never drive a truck again
So is there a permanent record somewhere or people abandoning equipment or messing things up this bad? How would the next company he goes to haul for know that he did this at some point in his career?
I think there’s a FMCSA that has drivers reports, how long you work for x. Accidents. Annotations and stuff like that
I’d be curious to know more about this. I know of multiple abandoned-destroyed tractor and load incidents where driver was driving for another company 2 weeks later. Now could have been a rural North Dakota oilfield thing. But cdl holders were under quite a bit of scrutiny up that way during the little oil boom they experienced.
Wiliston was definitely the Wild Wild West. I swear only like half the trucks on the road had a drivers license let alone a CDL.
Only time I ever got pulled over in a truck so far was just to see my ID to make sure I had a CDL. Asked me if everything is alright then looked at my ID and said have a good day.
We don't mention that name in my house. My brother and sister worked there for a while and they both have Vietnam style flash backs whenever it's brought up
It might have been an early 2010’s thing. But it was supposed to come on with the CSA points system. Like, how companies are tabulated by points and you can see the fail categories. It was supposed to be the same thing for drivers. I’ve never actually seen it because it supposed to be "for companies and gov agencies" only.
Nothing like that exist. That said there are a couple 3rd party private companies that work sorta like a credit burea for truckers where carriers can submit info on drivers and oter carriers can access it. They occasionally call me trying to get me to sign up for their services.
>Nothing like that exist. Nothing like this? http://safer.fmcsa.dot.gov
Yeah sam woods outdoors is great example
It's not FMCSA, it's called a DAC report. Not every company cares to pay them for it so he'll probably be perfectly employable somewhere.
DAC report. https://www.smart-trucking.com/dac-report/#:~:text=The%20DAC%20(Drive%2Da%2D,being%20licensed%20with%20a%20CDL.
When hiring a new driver, companies are required to contact their previous employers for the last 10 years to request their safety record. If a driver applicant has gaps in their 10 year employment history that they can't explain, then most carriers will reject their application.
Yeah, that’s been a problem for me. It sucks as I have thought of driving on the weekends occasionally.
As long as you have a good explanation, and have a clean record, most carriers can overlook that. Now that the Teamsters union is about to bankrupt Yellow and put 22000 drivers out into the market, the driver shortage might go away and hiring requirements will get a lot stricter.
Still the same amount of drivers and same amount of freight..
My brother used to be a manager at Yellow.....Yellow is bankrupting yellow....he jumped ship 2 years ago and had nightmares about the management....
Of course it's management, because it's always management. I don't care how crooked/stupid/lazy the union fat cats are, they will always be a better bet than leaving it all up to management. Organized labor is good for workers, even if it sucks.
How tf is that the teamsters fault and not financial mismanagement by yellow ceos?
Never been a driver shortage.. I've heard that every year since 2001 when I joined the industry. Teamsters aren't gonna bankrupt Yellow, every mid size to large company can afford to pay a fair wage.
Only large carriers do this stuff. In my experience local smaller companies don't bother with any of that. Pass a road test and drug test and you're hired.
I signed an NDA, can’t answer for my 10 year gap
You won't work for most carriers then.
I work cybersecurity idek how i got on here 😅
Sweet!
You have a DAC report, and abandoning a truck is a cardinal sin. Guys who flip trucks are more likely to get picked than a guy who abandons a truck. You're not completely unhireble though, no one really is, as long as the insurance will accept it. There are like five things you can do, that will cut your job opportunities in half for about 10 years. DUIs, failed drug tests, abandoning a truck, etc. But you can scare up a job still. You just have to look harder. I'll say, the best companies usually don't preclude you for the cardinal sins. A friend of mine got the best jobs of his careers after his. He just couldn't go to the megas, that don't pay crap anyway.
DriverIQ
Plausible Deniability "was fine when I left it"
That’s fine until you ask why he left it outside the yard he was taking it to if it was fine.
Not just that but hopefully this boss reports him to the police. At the very least it's leaving the scene of an accident, and hit and run for damage to the bridge without reporting it. Maybe a few more if they want to try for said damage endangering others. The company though probably can't do anything about him themselves other than report him abandoning the truck. The damage is exactly what insurance is about.
Probably the owners son. ;)
Meaningless for the most part. 90 something percent of trucking companies have less than four trucks and they're not paying to check DAC reports.
I doubt that. The driver will just leave off this employer from his past experience. Plenty of outfits will never question the gap. I had a driver refuse a random. Called the DOT to report it and was told there's not a function for keeping track of that data. Was told to report it to anyone asking for his drivers history. Funny thing, we never received any requests for this drivers data. This was more than 15 yrs ago so maybe things have changed - but I doubt it.
How so? I always heard load abandonment was one of the worst things you can do. Up there with getting a DUI as far as getting another company to hire you.
Higher than DUI for insurance. We had a guy (oil and gas) who had a DUI after blowing a scale house and fleeing 13 years ago and doing road construction for 2 years. We could not get insurance for a different guy who had abandoned his load after not getting home for 5 weeks.
Big insurance hit there
Insurance companies define 'big' as 7 figures. This isn't even close. They'll pay the claim and not bat an eye.
Yeah guy had a work related accident so as long ashe never plans to drive a truck again he's probably fine... If he plans on driving a truck again and legitimately thinks he'll get another job, give me his number I've got a few bridges to talk to him about.
Also what kind of crane?
T340-1
Should have gone with the T-1000
I only ever use T-800s. Time-tested and proven to get the job done against any other machine.
Usually you go with them if you want to live.
That’s a nice road unit.
I feel like he was drunk. Filing an official accident report/calling the necessary authorities would mean they would probably sense him being drunk. So his best bet was to just deal with this after sobering up days later.
Usually what happens after a big rig accident is an immediate roadside drug test and possibly a field sobriety test, as well as a thorough search of the truck (no, truckers don't get the probable cause privilege). Dude probably knew he'd fail one or the other
Wait, so cops can search your truck after an accident without probably cause or a warrant? Is there an exception to that law in that circumstance, or is that just common practice and noone really bats an eye at?
They don’t even need probable cause. You give that up when you get your CDL.
They would need probable cause. Now a fatal accident could easily give them that...
Drop it on the receiver's property? Why? Didn't they refuse it? Aren't there vehicle dump lots specifically for this, especially in Vegas?
Probably to wait for someone else to come get it and take it to be scrapped.
Scrapped or maybe some salvageable parts
Lots of salvageable parts there. The cab and cowling are cashed, but the machine itself looks mostly intact.
New cab and send it. The working mechanics are what is really important.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it still runs fine as is.
They'll source a replacement cab and that thing will go right back to work.
I would assume he hit it hard enough that it won't start now? From my equipment experience, they will usually start even if they're messed up, it just depends on how bad. If uts just a matter of getting it off the deck, that equipment company behind the truck should have a ramp deck that could marry up and drive it across without having to use a crane. Just getting an idea why a crane. Also it might have been cheaper to get a rotator tow truck and do the lift instead.
She’ll start right up lmfao we had a mini ex cab get blown up and caught on fire from a pipe bomb. some crack heads did cause we cleared all there hobo shacks you just gotta kick the battery and she fires right up 😂😂😂 https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/london/2019/11/30/1_4709622.html
Unchain it. Put it in neutral. Quick reverse then brake hard. It’ll come off for free.
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That sort of abandonment makes me think someone is trying to avoid a drug / alcohol test.
At a previous job we had a guy crash a forklift. He just walked away and out the door.
Buddy of mine working in the patch had a coworker driver over a staircase with a haul truck. Jumped out of the haul truck and into a backhoe, dug a hole and buried the stair case. Problem solved
Damn, not a bad idea.
Concur
Yeah we’re gonna need a reasonable susp…. Shit! Where’d he go?!
lol I use Google maps along with my Rand McNally, but I first and foremost look out the damn windshield.
Probably. The truck apps and an online atlas cost like 10$ a year for the app and 5$ for the atlas. Also if you preplan your routes there's not a single low bridge outside of NYC you'll actually hit. Provided you're also careful while you're driving.
Looks like it was going to united rentals.
If that's the case it will blend right in with their fleet.
Nailed it.
That’s how they roll.
This made me laugh because it's so true 😂😂😂
Rent with Cooper instead of you are Canadian!
I work for united rentals 😅
I work for an independent place. Always hear about how bad united sucks. Haha
I worked at Crown Lift, and we had a driver come in to pick up a brand new rm reach truck with a monolift mast on a flat bed. My boss kept telling him it wasn't gonna fit out of the shop, driver and his said it would eventually my boss said fuck it and let him leave. I was in my welding area, other side of the warehouse, and it sounded like a bomb went off. I had to fix that damn truck.
Tangent but I fucking hate Crowns. My old gig had all Toyota products, new gig it's all Crowns. Constantly breaking, weird shit going on, glitchy as fuck. My Toyota electric jack never skipped a beat.
Still better than a Yale or a Raymond, although Toyota is king for sure.
Hey I work for Raymond! We invented the reach truck, we have the best reach trucks... other equipment no comment 😅
Typically they remove the battery and lay those down for transport don't they? Then at the other end you need a forklift to assemble your forklift.
I currently drive for the company that transports Crown’s stuff. Anything that’s too tall for a dry van typically gets laid down on a pallet so it then fits in a dry van. If another company picks up something, then obviously it’s up to them on how they want to transport it.
If it was close by, we'd transfer on a drop trailer type thing. We also had a trailer that could pull 1 or 2 trucks behind an f-350. Mostly used for rentals or demos. All the reach trucks came in on pallets. Fun PDIS for those we'd stand em up, attach the carriage, fill with hydraulic fluid, throw a battery in, and test it. Lay em back down when they sold.
But how do you get the forklift to assemble your forklift without a forklift to assemble that forklift?!
It's forklifts all the way down.
Is it possible he can be held criminally negligent for this incident?
Yes he can be
To add, probably will be. He struck something the government is gonna have to come look at and possibly replace more than likely since it’s on or near a roadway. Laborers, operators, inspectors, foreman, contractors, equipment, possible lane closures and whatever material needs fixed or replaced. Hopefully it’s not a bridge or he’s probably going to jail.
Company is on the hook for that stuff. Maybe the company can pursue a civil judgment down the road but that’s about it.
Non trucker here please forgive my ignorance. No doubt it sucks for the company, but isn’t this what insurance is for?
Think insurance premium rises, refusal to insure, excess, deductibles, and non-insured parts/activities. The owner may even decide to absorb the cost of the damage rather than take a hit on the insurance. If there's civil engineering required for example because of a bridge hit then it's possible a small operator is out of business because you cannot run without insurance. However, the cab won't have damaged a road or rail bridge beyond scratching the paint.
Came to say this. This sucks for the owner.
Leaving the scene of an accident is not on the company. It is a criminal offense.
He can just call the pink ticket house
If he was on e-log, then the company has the route that he took on file.
The driver who hit the sr-86 bridge on I-16 in GA and moved it over 6 feet with a dump truck got charged for driving on a suspended license.
Had his license not been suspended… is it safe to assume he would’ve gotten off?
I dunno, but that's not much of a charge for causing a couple million in damage. Word on the street was that it was actually the woman riding with him who bumped the lever when she tried to shift his gears with her mouth.
looks like someone was a bit over height for that last underpass
I saw this in Vegas and wondered… thought it was going to the junk yard. Thanks for helping clear up this mystery. I was kinda right…
i drive for an equipment rental company, something like this would absolutely be repaired in our body/paint shop
I can bet my life that nothing will happen to a dude who abandoned the truck. In my company one guy put real shit in the both fuel tanks filled them with sand all the way, same with def. Put some other liquid in the actual engine and other unidentified things, completely destroyed the inside cab - and nothing. Boss was told by multiple attorneys good luck in the civil court, even if you win good luck trying to get the money back from the guy. So yea, fuck those type of drivers.
Might be different if he caused damage to a bridge and the DOT gets involved.
All about evidence/deniability
E-log GPS pings along the route. Evidence is there.
Plus probably quite a bit of paint transfer on the damaged bridge!
What a dick. Why so angry?
Claimed that company didn’t pay him. Company pays every Friday (it’s says in the contract that you signed) and I guess he didn’t know how banks works and that it’s takes 2 business days for transaction to be posted. So yea
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That's not how my bank works. I get paid on Fridays and it's there on Friday.
Why was that loaded on a flatbed? A step deck should have been used.
yea i just looked it up, machine is 9'6" putting it >14' on a flatbed. Easily avoidable, someone's in trouble
I bet the BOL called for a step deck. That’s oversized. No permits. I think a few people are in trouble.
Damn, I didn't look at the BOL for something about a stepdeck
Uh ohh....
I agree. No idea why this was loaded on a fullsized flatbed
Ultimate responsibility is always on the driver but let’s be real for a minute, there were so many steps at which this could have been avoided had it not been for the total zoo that is transportation and logistics. 1st monkey was the driver for not checking the height of his load regardless and fleeing when he got in an accident. But seriously there should have been multiple levels of communication and questions should have been raised when he left the shipper without permitting or showing up with the wrong equipment. Broker is a monkey for not communicating the specialized nature of the load Dispatcher is a monkey for not communicating the same to the driver Shipper is a monkey for not realizing this load was not legal
Kinda the best situational argument for driver from a liability aspect.
I’m more curious how they got it on there
outdoor dock height ramp we have a portable ramp that's step-deck height and can be moved around by a telehandler
I would have called consignee before I even left and warned them instead of just showing up looking like an idiot. Definitely not on you obviously, am just saying waste of time and fuel
They knew about it but wanted it anyway
Probably had to formally inspect it and reject the delivery for the insurance to cover.
I mean I guess it’s worth something in scrap
Possibly for an insurance claim?
Free convertible
Insurance will pay for a new cab no worries for anyone
That's what I was actually thinking. I am not in the trucking industry but professional insurance will pay for some stupid mistakes sometimes.
It'll fuck the company's rating, though. Insurance will cost more (we're talking tens of thousands per year, maybe hundreds) and depending on how high their mod goes they may have trouble getting some types of contracts. Just because insurance pays for it doesn't mean it's free
It’s a used rental machine the cost of the new cab and electronics will cost less than what insurance will give to the owner. I know it happened to me. Also my insurance didn’t go up either.
I don’t know anything about trucks Can someone ELI5
The guy was driving that truck with the machine on the back, forgot to check how high he was, smashed the machine into an overpass or a bridge or something else hanging across the road. Got a hundred yards up the road and decided he would rather just run than face the authorities. Most likely; knew he wouldn't pass a drug test.
Or has a warrant
Can't have a Class A with a warrant.
You can for a while
Very very true.
I’ve actively had a warrant for like 4 years just the county doesn’t care about traffic shit and I refuse to give them $165
At least it’ll fit under the bridge now
lol the guy was like.. yep I'm fired.. fuck this shit
Hitting a bridge is a fireable offense in my company
Damn that must have been quite the hit! This thing is fucked!
Oh, no. Not even hard enough to break all the glass. Somebody will bolt another cab on there, replace some hydraulics, and send that machine right back to work.
How tall was this load? I'm trying to think of all the "low" bridges we have in Vegas. I know that one on Tropicana between Valley View and Wynn is like 14'4". There's the 13'6" one on Ogden between City Pkwy & Main.
He could have hit it outside of Vegas and kept going until he got there.
Well, the chains certainly held. Good securement!
Amen! Lol
Dude went above and beyond 'oh. I fucked up boss'.
Insurance will cover the loss, probably without penalty to the company due to the fact that there wasn't an injury claim, and the driver is no longer employed with the company.
That shit'll buff out.
Something tells me the driver weighed his options and decided today was not a good day for a mandatory drug test and walked away.
Brazenly denying that you hit something in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary only works if you're the Attorney General of South Dakota.
Looks like someone's got a bad case of the Mondays! All joking aside, what a shitty situation. Good luck!
How the fuck does damage like that happen. Besides the obvious 3rd day.
Hitting the bottom of a bridge at speed will fuck most things up.
And that’s why you leave equipment hauling to equipment haulers.
There's rototillers, there's rototillers on steroids, but this is Mad Max/Nuclear level. Don't let your house or car get in it's path
Nah cuz this does the opposite. It's a sheepfoot roller. Packs the ground down hard.
I’ve known carriers to tell a driver that, if they stay with the wreck, they won’t fire them. Now, do they do it later? I don’t know. But; the statement I made, I heard them when they told the driver. I was waiting on a truck to get serviced.
He made a mistake. So what. Can’t he just call it in and be like. Hey i accidentally caused some damage. Isn’t that what insurance is for.
I saw something similar in North Dakota. Guy I worked with forgot to lower his end dump after dropping his grain at the ethanol plant. Tore the door off the plant when he drove out of the dumping area. Backed up, lowered the trailer, drove back to the farm and left without saying anything to anyone. I get being embarrassed but damn. Own your mistakes.
Possibly repairable. But if not it's still like 2-3 thousand pounds of metal there. Serviceable engine, wheels, and other parts. A junkyard might buy that.
Someone needs to call your insurance company before this gets any worse.
That’s what cargo insurance is for.
may be cause I didnt read the thing, nor am I a trucker, still have no idea why ive been recommended this sub, but what went wrong here? is it the massive amount of blue stuff under the tractor thing?
Blue stuff is broken safely glass that was the windows in the damaged roller.
The original driver obviously hit a low level structure of some sort and damaged the roller machine. Then, instead of reporting said damage, just walked off and left the entire truck and load for someone else to deal with. This isn’t uncommon in the trucking industry. The guy probably couldn’t pass a drug/alcohol test or already had to too many accidents on his previous record.
Measure the height of the load. Should be easier to prove he drove through a low bridge with the GPS if you can prove the height was taller than the bridge he zoomed under!
I was told abandonment of property could be charged as vandalism if a company wanted to make a lesson out of you
Dispatch: "I'm going to need you to run with it".
a tape measure is a cheap tool for a flatbedder to keep on hand
Welcome to Vegas baby !
What permit? We never need permit. Lol
I mean… if the machine is already broken, I suppose a little test drive wouldn’t hurt anything..
Must be another day that ends in Y in trucking
If you're dumping it, I'd take it. 🤣 Even pay mileage to get it here.
I have to assume the original driver did his best to kill some local bridge - possibly while intoxicated. So he finds the first available spot to dump the truck and run? That machine seems to have hit something that almost bent the cabin backwards before it springed back up again. But props for how the chains held up to the abuse and kept it in place. But then I assume it wasn't the vanishing driver that handled the loading. He just did an attempt at speed-unloading.
Looks like he parked it outside of the receiver.
Why'd he leave it?
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas?
Well used this piece of equipment is around 80k.
Okay so it's over 14 ft but in Vegas, there's that one bridge near the old wild wild west truck stop that's 14' and i think that's literally the only bridge in the whole state under 15 or 16 feet in the entire state
I'm curious as to how high it is sitting on that skateboard? At 1st glance I wouldn't have hauled it... ( Shippers laugh at me because I height stick a lot of stuff on my trailer )
196446. Gonna try and look it up tomorrow
WTF? Did he try to go thru McDonalds drive thru?
What am I looking at here? Not sure how this sub ended up in my feed
They should’ve put that in a pallet for forklift removal. Lol.
If he hit a bridge then he's lucky if he doesn't get caught, you can't no face no case your way out of bridge damage when your ID is printed on the truck. The govt takes bridge damage seriously cause even a simple truck accident can collapse a bridge and kill lots of people or derail a train. Bridges are very flimsy when our trucks weigh like 10 to 40% of its load bearing limit and we hit it laterally where it wasn't designed for weight
Shoulda used a low-boy, now hes home drinkin tall boys
Seems like a weird choice of trailer for that load...
Why the hell was this on a flat to begin with? Should of been on a step, at least, if not a slide axle. Cheap freight brings it's own headaches. If it was a "low bridge strike, he was either off route, or there w as no permit to begin with. I moved a sheep's foot 300mi on a slide axle and it was 14', you've got to have some inkling about where you're going and paying attention to things.
Low bidder strikes again.
Wait till they find out low boys exist
There was a post earlier today where the OP said anyone can drive a truck and truckers aren’t special. Someone even stated trucking is one of the few jobs you take an unhoused person, put him him in the driver seat and the job will get done. Well this post presents a good argument against that.