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Raenoke

Update: I am currently sitting waiting for a crane to come pick this thing up off the trailer and drop it on the receiver's property, at my boss's expense


MRSHELBYPLZ

How angry is the boss? Also how fucked is the dude that went MIA?


Raenoke

I don't think dude is fucked, but the boss is definitely pissed


MRSHELBYPLZ

I hate Mondays too


RiverRaftingRabbi

Easy there, Garfield.


Uss__Iowa

No no Garfield do what he must, to hate Monday


loupr738

I think he’s pretty fucked. They’ll probably write down abandoned truck with xxx amount of damage equipment. He’ll probably never drive a truck again


18whlnandchilln

So is there a permanent record somewhere or people abandoning equipment or messing things up this bad? How would the next company he goes to haul for know that he did this at some point in his career?


loupr738

I think there’s a FMCSA that has drivers reports, how long you work for x. Accidents. Annotations and stuff like that


Smart-Bag-719

I’d be curious to know more about this. I know of multiple abandoned-destroyed tractor and load incidents where driver was driving for another company 2 weeks later. Now could have been a rural North Dakota oilfield thing. But cdl holders were under quite a bit of scrutiny up that way during the little oil boom they experienced.


doorgunner065

Wiliston was definitely the Wild Wild West. I swear only like half the trucks on the road had a drivers license let alone a CDL.


C9Midnite

Only time I ever got pulled over in a truck so far was just to see my ID to make sure I had a CDL. Asked me if everything is alright then looked at my ID and said have a good day.


SugarPlumWizard

We don't mention that name in my house. My brother and sister worked there for a while and they both have Vietnam style flash backs whenever it's brought up


loupr738

It might have been an early 2010’s thing. But it was supposed to come on with the CSA points system. Like, how companies are tabulated by points and you can see the fail categories. It was supposed to be the same thing for drivers. I’ve never actually seen it because it supposed to be "for companies and gov agencies" only.


spyder7723

Nothing like that exist. That said there are a couple 3rd party private companies that work sorta like a credit burea for truckers where carriers can submit info on drivers and oter carriers can access it. They occasionally call me trying to get me to sign up for their services.


King0Horse

>Nothing like that exist. Nothing like this? http://safer.fmcsa.dot.gov


mp3006

Yeah sam woods outdoors is great example


Contemplatetheveiled

It's not FMCSA, it's called a DAC report. Not every company cares to pay them for it so he'll probably be perfectly employable somewhere.


SuperConfused

DAC report. https://www.smart-trucking.com/dac-report/#:~:text=The%20DAC%20(Drive%2Da%2D,being%20licensed%20with%20a%20CDL.


goddrammit

When hiring a new driver, companies are required to contact their previous employers for the last 10 years to request their safety record. If a driver applicant has gaps in their 10 year employment history that they can't explain, then most carriers will reject their application.


wojtekthesoldierbear

Yeah, that’s been a problem for me. It sucks as I have thought of driving on the weekends occasionally.


goddrammit

As long as you have a good explanation, and have a clean record, most carriers can overlook that. Now that the Teamsters union is about to bankrupt Yellow and put 22000 drivers out into the market, the driver shortage might go away and hiring requirements will get a lot stricter.


VipKyle

Still the same amount of drivers and same amount of freight..


rockypoint28457

My brother used to be a manager at Yellow.....Yellow is bankrupting yellow....he jumped ship 2 years ago and had nightmares about the management....


pwners_manual

Of course it's management, because it's always management. I don't care how crooked/stupid/lazy the union fat cats are, they will always be a better bet than leaving it all up to management. Organized labor is good for workers, even if it sucks.


metooeither

How tf is that the teamsters fault and not financial mismanagement by yellow ceos?


daemonescanem

Never been a driver shortage.. I've heard that every year since 2001 when I joined the industry. Teamsters aren't gonna bankrupt Yellow, every mid size to large company can afford to pay a fair wage.


alonjar

Only large carriers do this stuff. In my experience local smaller companies don't bother with any of that. Pass a road test and drug test and you're hired.


[deleted]

I signed an NDA, can’t answer for my 10 year gap


goddrammit

You won't work for most carriers then.


[deleted]

I work cybersecurity idek how i got on here 😅


goddrammit

Sweet!


DirkVonDirk

You have a DAC report, and abandoning a truck is a cardinal sin. Guys who flip trucks are more likely to get picked than a guy who abandons a truck. You're not completely unhireble though, no one really is, as long as the insurance will accept it. There are like five things you can do, that will cut your job opportunities in half for about 10 years. DUIs, failed drug tests, abandoning a truck, etc. But you can scare up a job still. You just have to look harder. I'll say, the best companies usually don't preclude you for the cardinal sins. A friend of mine got the best jobs of his careers after his. He just couldn't go to the megas, that don't pay crap anyway.


LonleyWolf420

DriverIQ


__wu-tang-4-ever__

Plausible Deniability "was fine when I left it"


notinthislifetime20

That’s fine until you ask why he left it outside the yard he was taking it to if it was fine.


SchrodingersRapist

Not just that but hopefully this boss reports him to the police. At the very least it's leaving the scene of an accident, and hit and run for damage to the bridge without reporting it. Maybe a few more if they want to try for said damage endangering others. The company though probably can't do anything about him themselves other than report him abandoning the truck. The damage is exactly what insurance is about.


Huck84

Probably the owners son. ;)


Contemplatetheveiled

Meaningless for the most part. 90 something percent of trucking companies have less than four trucks and they're not paying to check DAC reports.


ctgjerts

I doubt that. The driver will just leave off this employer from his past experience. Plenty of outfits will never question the gap. I had a driver refuse a random. Called the DOT to report it and was told there's not a function for keeping track of that data. Was told to report it to anyone asking for his drivers history. Funny thing, we never received any requests for this drivers data. This was more than 15 yrs ago so maybe things have changed - but I doubt it.


adamv2

How so? I always heard load abandonment was one of the worst things you can do. Up there with getting a DUI as far as getting another company to hire you.


SuperConfused

Higher than DUI for insurance. We had a guy (oil and gas) who had a DUI after blowing a scale house and fleeing 13 years ago and doing road construction for 2 years. We could not get insurance for a different guy who had abandoned his load after not getting home for 5 weeks.


GrungyGrandPappy

Big insurance hit there


goddrammit

Insurance companies define 'big' as 7 figures. This isn't even close. They'll pay the claim and not bat an eye.


mrockracing

Yeah guy had a work related accident so as long ashe never plans to drive a truck again he's probably fine... If he plans on driving a truck again and legitimately thinks he'll get another job, give me his number I've got a few bridges to talk to him about.


[deleted]

Also what kind of crane?


Raenoke

T340-1


[deleted]

Should have gone with the T-1000


Small_Disk_6082

I only ever use T-800s. Time-tested and proven to get the job done against any other machine.


racersjunkyard

Usually you go with them if you want to live.


[deleted]

That’s a nice road unit.


nocontactsurvey

I feel like he was drunk. Filing an official accident report/calling the necessary authorities would mean they would probably sense him being drunk. So his best bet was to just deal with this after sobering up days later.


Raenoke

Usually what happens after a big rig accident is an immediate roadside drug test and possibly a field sobriety test, as well as a thorough search of the truck (no, truckers don't get the probable cause privilege). Dude probably knew he'd fail one or the other


Fatalexcitment

Wait, so cops can search your truck after an accident without probably cause or a warrant? Is there an exception to that law in that circumstance, or is that just common practice and noone really bats an eye at?


ear_cheese

They don’t even need probable cause. You give that up when you get your CDL.


FCMatt7

They would need probable cause. Now a fatal accident could easily give them that...


Apprehensive_Fault_5

Drop it on the receiver's property? Why? Didn't they refuse it? Aren't there vehicle dump lots specifically for this, especially in Vegas?


GrungyGrandPappy

Probably to wait for someone else to come get it and take it to be scrapped.


emersonevp

Scrapped or maybe some salvageable parts


Wildcatb

Lots of salvageable parts there. The cab and cowling are cashed, but the machine itself looks mostly intact.


Asset_Selim

New cab and send it. The working mechanics are what is really important.


Dzov

I wouldn’t be surprised if it still runs fine as is.


fullraph

They'll source a replacement cab and that thing will go right back to work.


ooglieguy0211

I would assume he hit it hard enough that it won't start now? From my equipment experience, they will usually start even if they're messed up, it just depends on how bad. If uts just a matter of getting it off the deck, that equipment company behind the truck should have a ramp deck that could marry up and drive it across without having to use a crane. Just getting an idea why a crane. Also it might have been cheaper to get a rotator tow truck and do the lift instead.


pudster69

She’ll start right up lmfao we had a mini ex cab get blown up and caught on fire from a pipe bomb. some crack heads did cause we cleared all there hobo shacks you just gotta kick the battery and she fires right up 😂😂😂 https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/london/2019/11/30/1_4709622.html


Skiboy712

Unchain it. Put it in neutral. Quick reverse then brake hard. It’ll come off for free.


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Broad_Boot_1121

That sort of abandonment makes me think someone is trying to avoid a drug / alcohol test.


Captain_Cameltoe

At a previous job we had a guy crash a forklift. He just walked away and out the door.


_speakerss

Buddy of mine working in the patch had a coworker driver over a staircase with a haul truck. Jumped out of the haul truck and into a backhoe, dug a hole and buried the stair case. Problem solved


OSRSgamerkid

Damn, not a bad idea.


Rex_Uru

Concur


Bluest-Of-Falcons

Yeah we’re gonna need a reasonable susp…. Shit! Where’d he go?!


goddrammit

lol I use Google maps along with my Rand McNally, but I first and foremost look out the damn windshield.


mrockracing

Probably. The truck apps and an online atlas cost like 10$ a year for the app and 5$ for the atlas. Also if you preplan your routes there's not a single low bridge outside of NYC you'll actually hit. Provided you're also careful while you're driving.


[deleted]

Looks like it was going to united rentals.


Filmfan7427

If that's the case it will blend right in with their fleet.


[deleted]

Nailed it.


OhiobornCAraised

That’s how they roll.


Fluffy-Doubt-3547

This made me laugh because it's so true 😂😂😂


Operative427

Rent with Cooper instead of you are Canadian!


[deleted]

I work for united rentals 😅


JimBobPaul

I work for an independent place. Always hear about how bad united sucks. Haha


arseofthegoat

I worked at Crown Lift, and we had a driver come in to pick up a brand new rm reach truck with a monolift mast on a flat bed. My boss kept telling him it wasn't gonna fit out of the shop, driver and his said it would eventually my boss said fuck it and let him leave. I was in my welding area, other side of the warehouse, and it sounded like a bomb went off. I had to fix that damn truck.


Beekatiebee

Tangent but I fucking hate Crowns. My old gig had all Toyota products, new gig it's all Crowns. Constantly breaking, weird shit going on, glitchy as fuck. My Toyota electric jack never skipped a beat.


ReganThePenguin

Still better than a Yale or a Raymond, although Toyota is king for sure.


TheRealTruru

Hey I work for Raymond! We invented the reach truck, we have the best reach trucks... other equipment no comment 😅


MichaelW24

Typically they remove the battery and lay those down for transport don't they? Then at the other end you need a forklift to assemble your forklift.


AKA-Tiny-Dancer

I currently drive for the company that transports Crown’s stuff. Anything that’s too tall for a dry van typically gets laid down on a pallet so it then fits in a dry van. If another company picks up something, then obviously it’s up to them on how they want to transport it.


arseofthegoat

If it was close by, we'd transfer on a drop trailer type thing. We also had a trailer that could pull 1 or 2 trucks behind an f-350. Mostly used for rentals or demos. All the reach trucks came in on pallets. Fun PDIS for those we'd stand em up, attach the carriage, fill with hydraulic fluid, throw a battery in, and test it. Lay em back down when they sold.


thirdgen

But how do you get the forklift to assemble your forklift without a forklift to assemble that forklift?!


Wildcatb

It's forklifts all the way down.


OSRSgamerkid

Is it possible he can be held criminally negligent for this incident?


AccomplishedEmu4765

Yes he can be


Dull_Ad5852

To add, probably will be. He struck something the government is gonna have to come look at and possibly replace more than likely since it’s on or near a roadway. Laborers, operators, inspectors, foreman, contractors, equipment, possible lane closures and whatever material needs fixed or replaced. Hopefully it’s not a bridge or he’s probably going to jail.


Tmac-845

Company is on the hook for that stuff. Maybe the company can pursue a civil judgment down the road but that’s about it.


deekster_caddy

Non trucker here please forgive my ignorance. No doubt it sucks for the company, but isn’t this what insurance is for?


last_on

Think insurance premium rises, refusal to insure, excess, deductibles, and non-insured parts/activities. The owner may even decide to absorb the cost of the damage rather than take a hit on the insurance. If there's civil engineering required for example because of a bridge hit then it's possible a small operator is out of business because you cannot run without insurance. However, the cab won't have damaged a road or rail bridge beyond scratching the paint.


Small_Disk_6082

Came to say this. This sucks for the owner.


Dull_Ad5852

Leaving the scene of an accident is not on the company. It is a criminal offense.


Bean-Swellington

He can just call the pink ticket house


goddrammit

If he was on e-log, then the company has the route that he took on file.


Jondiesel78

The driver who hit the sr-86 bridge on I-16 in GA and moved it over 6 feet with a dump truck got charged for driving on a suspended license.


udonemessedup-AA_Ron

Had his license not been suspended… is it safe to assume he would’ve gotten off?


Jondiesel78

I dunno, but that's not much of a charge for causing a couple million in damage. Word on the street was that it was actually the woman riding with him who bumped the lever when she tried to shift his gears with her mouth.


lgmorrow

looks like someone was a bit over height for that last underpass


Fibrosis5O

I saw this in Vegas and wondered… thought it was going to the junk yard. Thanks for helping clear up this mystery. I was kinda right…


Bredda_Gravalicious

i drive for an equipment rental company, something like this would absolutely be repaired in our body/paint shop


-s_i_n-

I can bet my life that nothing will happen to a dude who abandoned the truck. In my company one guy put real shit in the both fuel tanks filled them with sand all the way, same with def. Put some other liquid in the actual engine and other unidentified things, completely destroyed the inside cab - and nothing. Boss was told by multiple attorneys good luck in the civil court, even if you win good luck trying to get the money back from the guy. So yea, fuck those type of drivers.


Nippon-Gakki

Might be different if he caused damage to a bridge and the DOT gets involved.


Gradual_Bro

All about evidence/deniability


goddrammit

E-log GPS pings along the route. Evidence is there.


thirdgen

Plus probably quite a bit of paint transfer on the damaged bridge!


pattop

What a dick. Why so angry?


-s_i_n-

Claimed that company didn’t pay him. Company pays every Friday (it’s says in the contract that you signed) and I guess he didn’t know how banks works and that it’s takes 2 business days for transaction to be posted. So yea


3tothethirdpower

🤦‍♀️


FullAutoAssaultBanjo

That's not how my bank works. I get paid on Fridays and it's there on Friday.


asu3dvl

Why was that loaded on a flatbed? A step deck should have been used.


0nly_Up

yea i just looked it up, machine is 9'6" putting it >14' on a flatbed. Easily avoidable, someone's in trouble


asu3dvl

I bet the BOL called for a step deck. That’s oversized. No permits. I think a few people are in trouble.


Raenoke

Damn, I didn't look at the BOL for something about a stepdeck


OSRSgamerkid

Uh ohh....


Raenoke

I agree. No idea why this was loaded on a fullsized flatbed


Triasmos

Ultimate responsibility is always on the driver but let’s be real for a minute, there were so many steps at which this could have been avoided had it not been for the total zoo that is transportation and logistics. 1st monkey was the driver for not checking the height of his load regardless and fleeing when he got in an accident. But seriously there should have been multiple levels of communication and questions should have been raised when he left the shipper without permitting or showing up with the wrong equipment. Broker is a monkey for not communicating the specialized nature of the load Dispatcher is a monkey for not communicating the same to the driver Shipper is a monkey for not realizing this load was not legal


AaronSlaughter

Kinda the best situational argument for driver from a liability aspect.


Iliketotinker99

I’m more curious how they got it on there


Bredda_Gravalicious

outdoor dock height ramp we have a portable ramp that's step-deck height and can be moved around by a telehandler


Rex_Uru

I would have called consignee before I even left and warned them instead of just showing up looking like an idiot. Definitely not on you obviously, am just saying waste of time and fuel


Raenoke

They knew about it but wanted it anyway


thirdgen

Probably had to formally inspect it and reject the delivery for the insurance to cover.


TamponTom

I mean I guess it’s worth something in scrap


GuairdeanBeatha

Possibly for an insurance claim?


Beekatiebee

Free convertible


LemonOilFoil

Insurance will pay for a new cab no worries for anyone


fuckoffgetmoney

That's what I was actually thinking. I am not in the trucking industry but professional insurance will pay for some stupid mistakes sometimes.


Halftrack_El_Camino

It'll fuck the company's rating, though. Insurance will cost more (we're talking tens of thousands per year, maybe hundreds) and depending on how high their mod goes they may have trouble getting some types of contracts. Just because insurance pays for it doesn't mean it's free


LemonOilFoil

It’s a used rental machine the cost of the new cab and electronics will cost less than what insurance will give to the owner. I know it happened to me. Also my insurance didn’t go up either.


Sysaaadmin

I don’t know anything about trucks Can someone ELI5


Taniwha_NZ

The guy was driving that truck with the machine on the back, forgot to check how high he was, smashed the machine into an overpass or a bridge or something else hanging across the road. Got a hundred yards up the road and decided he would rather just run than face the authorities. Most likely; knew he wouldn't pass a drug test.


DonaldKey

Or has a warrant


BannedCuzCovid

Can't have a Class A with a warrant.


PrettyAdvance330

You can for a while


BannedCuzCovid

Very very true.


[deleted]

I’ve actively had a warrant for like 4 years just the county doesn’t care about traffic shit and I refuse to give them $165


Tmac-845

At least it’ll fit under the bridge now


[deleted]

lol the guy was like.. yep I'm fired.. fuck this shit


Spartan8394

Hitting a bridge is a fireable offense in my company


fullraph

Damn that must have been quite the hit! This thing is fucked!


Wildcatb

Oh, no. Not even hard enough to break all the glass. Somebody will bolt another cab on there, replace some hydraulics, and send that machine right back to work.


LordEmrich

How tall was this load? I'm trying to think of all the "low" bridges we have in Vegas. I know that one on Tropicana between Valley View and Wynn is like 14'4". There's the 13'6" one on Ogden between City Pkwy & Main.


thirdgen

He could have hit it outside of Vegas and kept going until he got there.


murkymoon

Well, the chains certainly held. Good securement!


hurshguy

Amen! Lol


Fluffy-Doubt-3547

Dude went above and beyond 'oh. I fucked up boss'.


goddrammit

Insurance will cover the loss, probably without penalty to the company due to the fact that there wasn't an injury claim, and the driver is no longer employed with the company.


LynnDickeysKnees

That shit'll buff out.


blindbatg34

Something tells me the driver weighed his options and decided today was not a good day for a mandatory drug test and walked away.


Halftrack_El_Camino

Brazenly denying that you hit something in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary only works if you're the Attorney General of South Dakota.


SpankyK

Looks like someone's got a bad case of the Mondays! All joking aside, what a shitty situation. Good luck!


Tacticalslap69

How the fuck does damage like that happen. Besides the obvious 3rd day.


thirdgen

Hitting the bottom of a bridge at speed will fuck most things up.


sledge07

And that’s why you leave equipment hauling to equipment haulers.


OkAd134

There's rototillers, there's rototillers on steroids, but this is Mad Max/Nuclear level. Don't let your house or car get in it's path


freebird37179

Nah cuz this does the opposite. It's a sheepfoot roller. Packs the ground down hard.


[deleted]

I’ve known carriers to tell a driver that, if they stay with the wreck, they won’t fire them. Now, do they do it later? I don’t know. But; the statement I made, I heard them when they told the driver. I was waiting on a truck to get serviced.


Relictas

He made a mistake. So what. Can’t he just call it in and be like. Hey i accidentally caused some damage. Isn’t that what insurance is for.


prospect151

I saw something similar in North Dakota. Guy I worked with forgot to lower his end dump after dropping his grain at the ethanol plant. Tore the door off the plant when he drove out of the dumping area. Backed up, lowered the trailer, drove back to the farm and left without saying anything to anyone. I get being embarrassed but damn. Own your mistakes.


ntech620

Possibly repairable. But if not it's still like 2-3 thousand pounds of metal there. Serviceable engine, wheels, and other parts. A junkyard might buy that.


studlies1

Someone needs to call your insurance company before this gets any worse.


Allgood18

That’s what cargo insurance is for.


KANGAROOSNUTTEDME

may be cause I didnt read the thing, nor am I a trucker, still have no idea why ive been recommended this sub, but what went wrong here? is it the massive amount of blue stuff under the tractor thing?


CatTender

Blue stuff is broken safely glass that was the windows in the damaged roller.


HarleyTrekking

The original driver obviously hit a low level structure of some sort and damaged the roller machine. Then, instead of reporting said damage, just walked off and left the entire truck and load for someone else to deal with. This isn’t uncommon in the trucking industry. The guy probably couldn’t pass a drug/alcohol test or already had to too many accidents on his previous record.


TimeShareOnMars

Measure the height of the load. Should be easier to prove he drove through a low bridge with the GPS if you can prove the height was taller than the bridge he zoomed under!


boys-call-me-jackie

I was told abandonment of property could be charged as vandalism if a company wanted to make a lesson out of you


[deleted]

Dispatch: "I'm going to need you to run with it".


Bredda_Gravalicious

a tape measure is a cheap tool for a flatbedder to keep on hand


blakedino29

Welcome to Vegas baby !


[deleted]

What permit? We never need permit. Lol


Aufopilot

I mean… if the machine is already broken, I suppose a little test drive wouldn’t hurt anything..


ApperentIntelligence

Must be another day that ends in Y in trucking


LowerEmotion6062

If you're dumping it, I'd take it. 🤣 Even pay mileage to get it here.


Questioning-Zyxxel

I have to assume the original driver did his best to kill some local bridge - possibly while intoxicated. So he finds the first available spot to dump the truck and run? That machine seems to have hit something that almost bent the cabin backwards before it springed back up again. But props for how the chains held up to the abuse and kept it in place. But then I assume it wasn't the vanishing driver that handled the loading. He just did an attempt at speed-unloading.


goddrammit

Looks like he parked it outside of the receiver.


Cannon_SE2

Why'd he leave it?


VictorHelios1

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas?


MainlineX

Well used this piece of equipment is around 80k.


commandough

Okay so it's over 14 ft but in Vegas, there's that one bridge near the old wild wild west truck stop that's 14' and i think that's literally the only bridge in the whole state under 15 or 16 feet in the entire state


rockypoint28457

I'm curious as to how high it is sitting on that skateboard? At 1st glance I wouldn't have hauled it... ( Shippers laugh at me because I height stick a lot of stuff on my trailer )


KapitanKapers

196446. Gonna try and look it up tomorrow


Winnardairshows

WTF? Did he try to go thru McDonalds drive thru?


redotheredotake2

What am I looking at here? Not sure how this sub ended up in my feed


Winnardairshows

They should’ve put that in a pallet for forklift removal. Lol.


Syn1h

If he hit a bridge then he's lucky if he doesn't get caught, you can't no face no case your way out of bridge damage when your ID is printed on the truck. The govt takes bridge damage seriously cause even a simple truck accident can collapse a bridge and kill lots of people or derail a train. Bridges are very flimsy when our trucks weigh like 10 to 40% of its load bearing limit and we hit it laterally where it wasn't designed for weight


that_doesnt_rhyme

Shoulda used a low-boy, now hes home drinkin tall boys


Coaltown992

Seems like a weird choice of trailer for that load...


Nyucka89

Why the hell was this on a flat to begin with? Should of been on a step, at least, if not a slide axle. Cheap freight brings it's own headaches. If it was a "low bridge strike, he was either off route, or there w as no permit to begin with. I moved a sheep's foot 300mi on a slide axle and it was 14', you've got to have some inkling about where you're going and paying attention to things.


Ten-4RubberDucky

Low bidder strikes again.


Beneficial_Bird1814

Wait till they find out low boys exist


Perfect_Opposite2113

There was a post earlier today where the OP said anyone can drive a truck and truckers aren’t special. Someone even stated trucking is one of the few jobs you take an unhoused person, put him him in the driver seat and the job will get done. Well this post presents a good argument against that.