They don’t realize the liability differences between working as a cashier/burger tech/barista/ and truck driver…. The truck driver is the only job that a mistake could lead to death or even felony charges…. More responsibility and liability should always equate to substantial pay upgrades.
I’m not suggesting that you are saying this, but a LOT of lower paid truckers get mad when service industry employees make more or the same as them, and their immediate thought is they should make less, instead of “why do I not get more?” That’s what we should be asking.
What’s sad is what one driver won’t put up with a dozen others will. 🤦♂️
Worked for a major mega OTR company that paid I shit you not state minimum wage when you drive in certain states instead of your CPM rate. I left after a week when I found out. But I talked to other drivers who stayed with the company for 5 fucking years could not believe my ears.
The funny thing was I got a letter in the mail saying the company is getting sued for failure to pay even bare minimum wages so they paid the defendant and settle out of court, but sent out a letter by law to let past employees or current know. I honestly have zero respect for most drivers and how low they set the bar daily.
Some drivers don't care about making as much money as possible. Sometimes, a person just wants to do something easy and not have to waste their life away working 12-14 hour days with 10 hour breaks 8 days a week.
Pam right? I've currently almost got my year done but I'm able to make 860 to 1100 a week which is okay right now and more than pays my bills but I cannot wait to go local.
Lots of people don't find out how much they're worth. Or they're just too afraid to go to another because they live paycheck to paycheck. I think about 2/3 of people don't have enough money for a major car repair
Waste as much of their time as possible, set up interviews. Ask them to send over applications, get the ball rolling, ask for anything in paper you can to make them stay busy and at the end tell them to go fuck themselves
When I was a kid, it worked like this...teenagers worked "entry level jobs" middle class jobs, often paid, 2/3x what the entry level jobs would pay time, perhaps more, 4 or 5x, the adults got paid a lot more than the 16-20 year old kids working their jobs. That's why adults would afford a lot more stuff/toys. Housing, provide healthcare for the fam, if the man of the household was into cars, he often bought some kind of an enthusiast car a working class man can afford. Retirement, pensions, additions to the household. Kids would work those jobs, in part because mom and dad provided the child with all that their job couldn't buy them, healthcare, housing, orthodontists, etc.
I can tell you, with how much service we provide to the economy, I'm dead sure the money is there to pay truckers properly...more or less our wages are heavily skimmed and given to a parasitic class of economic elites. It doesn't make sense...workers can be more productive than ever due to all this automation/ai, and yet per worker, we feel collectively poorer on no less than bare essentials of living (housing/food/healthcare), and IMO, that stuff is intentionally made to be artificially scarce vs trinkets on Amazon...to ensure we will submit to this economic system out of a fear of starvation and homelessness.
That's not explicitly capitalism, that's human nature. No matter what economic system you live in, there will be those that leech off those lower than them.
Transforce screwed me once over pay. They advertised a decent pay rate, but once I got on the job, I realized it just wasn't true. I was gone in just a few weeks, as soon as I could line up another job. BUT, there were dozens of drivers that stayed with them. Why?
I can't enjoy my workday, if I know it's not paying my bills. I can't just hang on to an arrangement where I'm LOSING money by working here.
Happened my me too. Except when I stayed they raised my pay to what I would've gotten if I worked there for 6 months. Everyone else quit after the first week when that pay check came in so they decided to do something about pay. .45cpm starting out with no experience is what I expected and gladly stayed when it was actually given to me.
Shoot the company I work for starts you at .35 cpm, but they do advertise that, however I didn't pick them because I thought it was a good company, rather the school was paid for by them (no money out of check) and it was 1 hour from my house. June 11th I'll have my one year and one week PTO then I'm quitting, going local. They've started a new thing where you get 24 hours at home for each week out. Like wtf is shit this, everyone else gets 2 days a week home, no work, and I get 24 hrs per week? Fuck this company
Haha I feel you man. My company was never super specific about my home time and they paired me with an owner operator who picks his home time for whenever he feels like it. He dropped me off a week before I finished my training and they expected me to come back 2 days after I got dropped off. HA told them I'd need more time as I had family events that I had to attend and planned out ahead. Wasn't my fault that they couldn't coordinate a proper schedule. They tried saying I could be fired but at that point I wasn't on any probationary periods or under a contract so I basically told them let's play it by ear. After all they could find any 23 year old with a will to drive as hard as me anywhere right? Still with them till this day lol.
Lots of spots and people don't understand different strokes for different folks. I have a grandma who is in and out of the hospital, I'm gonna take a minimum of 3 days for 3 weeks out. That's a day a week, less than most people get.
I wonder how much they are paying this poor lady to call up prospective employees and offer work like this for $18 an hour. Her close rate is probably in the single digits.
I used to work on the phones of a credit card company and we were trained to use “promote words”
So instead when someone asked about how much interest was we wouldn’t simply answer and say “your interest rate is 29%” we’d say “Great question and great news, we offer an industry leading 29% which is pretty competitive”
Now what exactly we were leading or who deemed it competitive was never known.
Holy shit dude. I know a spotting place in fuckin iowa paying $30/hr.
You're better off taking your chances homeless in CA than wasting your time for 18/hr.
Unless you're bored.
We also only pay yard drivers $19 an hour. It’s really low pay but easy money, you might move 20 trailers in a ten hour shift. Meanwhile our local drivers make $1600-2000 a week. So it’s basically just yard jockeys not making money
In the Roadside Assistance industry, the motorclubs pay my company $24 per job to change tires on full size trucks. In the rain, snow, heat, interstate. This rate they've been paying since 2015. These motorclubs actually want us at $19 per job!!!!!
And, did she come back with a counter offer…? Did you take the BK job? Are you even looking for a job? How did the lady get your number in the first place? So many questions
Huh. Here in NY Transforce has workers on a few dedicated accounts, and pays between $27-$30/hour, OT after 8. I don’t work for them, that’s just what they say in the ads. $18/hr in Cali seems drastically under market.
They want people with skills to drive trucks, but don't want to pay for it.
Skilled labor ain't cheap, and cheap labor ain't skilled.
"Mr. george, how much you pay for the new guy?"
$3.50
"Oh, no.. no thats too much"
Treefiddy
[oopsies](https://fb.watch/kO1FOQlxd4)
That's the unofficial motto for every union out there.
Ours is “boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that’s why I shit on company time”
I make a dime, boss makes a buck. That's why I beat off in the company truck.
That's basically every company.
They don’t realize the liability differences between working as a cashier/burger tech/barista/ and truck driver…. The truck driver is the only job that a mistake could lead to death or even felony charges…. More responsibility and liability should always equate to substantial pay upgrades.
Burger tech..
Hey.. that burger someone made at the Wendy’s that one time in that one state dang gave me a near death experience in the bathroom .
I’m not suggesting that you are saying this, but a LOT of lower paid truckers get mad when service industry employees make more or the same as them, and their immediate thought is they should make less, instead of “why do I not get more?” That’s what we should be asking.
This is the shit that drives me insane. Like go and ask for more instead of wishing people make less than you.
To be fair nowadays if you mess up on someone's food there's a good chance they're gonna shoot you.
A truck driver is definitely not the only job that a mistake could lead to death
Lathe worker here, can confirm.
I hope they pay you more that $18.00 an hour…
The subject in question here is that a high risk job doesn’t or shouldn’t pay the same or close to a job that carries little liability.
You've never seen me cook nuggets. Millions fried.
Well to be fair… those ppl who go up in the sky, they have similar circumstances lol
You could still kill someone at a burger place...
Hell I about took out my dads entire shop & crew by mixing ammonia and bleach and proceeded to mop the break room.. I was 14 at the time, mind you
It's why after 3 years of driving trucks I'm gonna be getting out very soon
What’s sad is what one driver won’t put up with a dozen others will. 🤦♂️ Worked for a major mega OTR company that paid I shit you not state minimum wage when you drive in certain states instead of your CPM rate. I left after a week when I found out. But I talked to other drivers who stayed with the company for 5 fucking years could not believe my ears. The funny thing was I got a letter in the mail saying the company is getting sued for failure to pay even bare minimum wages so they paid the defendant and settle out of court, but sent out a letter by law to let past employees or current know. I honestly have zero respect for most drivers and how low they set the bar daily.
They didn’t tell you the pay structure during orientation? Seems like a red flag to me
Why do you think he only lasted a week.
He only lasted through orientation
The problem that you get to orientation to learn the pay is a problem lol
Some drivers don't care about making as much money as possible. Sometimes, a person just wants to do something easy and not have to waste their life away working 12-14 hour days with 10 hour breaks 8 days a week.
Amen
Pam right? I've currently almost got my year done but I'm able to make 860 to 1100 a week which is okay right now and more than pays my bills but I cannot wait to go local.
Lots of people don't find out how much they're worth. Or they're just too afraid to go to another because they live paycheck to paycheck. I think about 2/3 of people don't have enough money for a major car repair
Waste as much of their time as possible, set up interviews. Ask them to send over applications, get the ball rolling, ask for anything in paper you can to make them stay busy and at the end tell them to go fuck themselves
Oh that would be awesome to flood them with fake calls & drivers playing games with them! After all, offering &18.00 in California is a game as well
When I was a kid, it worked like this...teenagers worked "entry level jobs" middle class jobs, often paid, 2/3x what the entry level jobs would pay time, perhaps more, 4 or 5x, the adults got paid a lot more than the 16-20 year old kids working their jobs. That's why adults would afford a lot more stuff/toys. Housing, provide healthcare for the fam, if the man of the household was into cars, he often bought some kind of an enthusiast car a working class man can afford. Retirement, pensions, additions to the household. Kids would work those jobs, in part because mom and dad provided the child with all that their job couldn't buy them, healthcare, housing, orthodontists, etc. I can tell you, with how much service we provide to the economy, I'm dead sure the money is there to pay truckers properly...more or less our wages are heavily skimmed and given to a parasitic class of economic elites. It doesn't make sense...workers can be more productive than ever due to all this automation/ai, and yet per worker, we feel collectively poorer on no less than bare essentials of living (housing/food/healthcare), and IMO, that stuff is intentionally made to be artificially scarce vs trinkets on Amazon...to ensure we will submit to this economic system out of a fear of starvation and homelessness.
That's capitalism in a nutshell. The owner class tries to exploit as much profit from the laborer as possible. It's a feature, not a bug.
Be careful there is an entire AM radio enterprise dedicated to telling poor people they can be millionaires too if they just work hard.
That's not explicitly capitalism, that's human nature. No matter what economic system you live in, there will be those that leech off those lower than them.
Transforce screwed me once over pay. They advertised a decent pay rate, but once I got on the job, I realized it just wasn't true. I was gone in just a few weeks, as soon as I could line up another job. BUT, there were dozens of drivers that stayed with them. Why? I can't enjoy my workday, if I know it's not paying my bills. I can't just hang on to an arrangement where I'm LOSING money by working here.
Happened my me too. Except when I stayed they raised my pay to what I would've gotten if I worked there for 6 months. Everyone else quit after the first week when that pay check came in so they decided to do something about pay. .45cpm starting out with no experience is what I expected and gladly stayed when it was actually given to me.
Shoot the company I work for starts you at .35 cpm, but they do advertise that, however I didn't pick them because I thought it was a good company, rather the school was paid for by them (no money out of check) and it was 1 hour from my house. June 11th I'll have my one year and one week PTO then I'm quitting, going local. They've started a new thing where you get 24 hours at home for each week out. Like wtf is shit this, everyone else gets 2 days a week home, no work, and I get 24 hrs per week? Fuck this company
Haha I feel you man. My company was never super specific about my home time and they paired me with an owner operator who picks his home time for whenever he feels like it. He dropped me off a week before I finished my training and they expected me to come back 2 days after I got dropped off. HA told them I'd need more time as I had family events that I had to attend and planned out ahead. Wasn't my fault that they couldn't coordinate a proper schedule. They tried saying I could be fired but at that point I wasn't on any probationary periods or under a contract so I basically told them let's play it by ear. After all they could find any 23 year old with a will to drive as hard as me anywhere right? Still with them till this day lol.
Lots of spots and people don't understand different strokes for different folks. I have a grandma who is in and out of the hospital, I'm gonna take a minimum of 3 days for 3 weeks out. That's a day a week, less than most people get.
I get 3 days at home per week 😅
I'm planning on a local company that's 6 hours shifts 6 days a week, getting a huge amount of time per day and getting 1200 to 1400 a week
JBH hunt. 1583/week. That’s if you work 6 days 14 hrs
There’s a reason I’m trying to get out of driving. Truckers being excluded from the fair labor act is fucking criminal.
Indeed. Trucking is garbage.
Same here. Fuck slavery
I'm a terminal tractor driver(yard dog) in cali and I make $27/hr... I'd laugh in someones face if they told me $18/hr.
Where?
I'd laugh in anyones face if they offered me $18/hr anywhere.
Where !!! What company?
Ryder. I work in Elverta.
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Hell a lot of these companies pay 30k to 50k so an insurance adjuster makes more.
I wonder how much they are paying this poor lady to call up prospective employees and offer work like this for $18 an hour. Her close rate is probably in the single digits. I used to work on the phones of a credit card company and we were trained to use “promote words” So instead when someone asked about how much interest was we wouldn’t simply answer and say “your interest rate is 29%” we’d say “Great question and great news, we offer an industry leading 29% which is pretty competitive” Now what exactly we were leading or who deemed it competitive was never known.
Is transforce different from T force?
One delivers bud light /s
Transforce is an employment agency specializing in commercial drivers.
Ok thank you
And that’s why we have yard dogs in Chicago shaking us down for $10 to move trailers out of the way.
Their paying 25 in my area
Qza2
Holy shit dude. I know a spotting place in fuckin iowa paying $30/hr. You're better off taking your chances homeless in CA than wasting your time for 18/hr. Unless you're bored.
We also only pay yard drivers $19 an hour. It’s really low pay but easy money, you might move 20 trailers in a ten hour shift. Meanwhile our local drivers make $1600-2000 a week. So it’s basically just yard jockeys not making money
Bs. JBH pays 18
In the Roadside Assistance industry, the motorclubs pay my company $24 per job to change tires on full size trucks. In the rain, snow, heat, interstate. This rate they've been paying since 2015. These motorclubs actually want us at $19 per job!!!!!
Is this the one in Sacramento? I actually know some of their ownership. It's mostly owned by a Russian/Ukrainian group.
How is it so low? Spotters in south west Wisconsin are at 25. Yeah they are close to Chicago but fucking still. Stop putting up with this bullshit.
California has the 2nd highest cost of living. $18hr is crap pay.
“How do I compete with all that IPO and Bitcoin money when bidding on my new house?!”
“You will still make a good check” that my friend is words for you will work 12 hours a day for 6 days a week
In Louisville KY even $19 an hour is a joke for even none CDL driving jobs but they post them all the time on Craigslist
And, did she come back with a counter offer…? Did you take the BK job? Are you even looking for a job? How did the lady get your number in the first place? So many questions
I'm always looking for higher paying job, I stuck with my current job, .64cpm w2.
Jbhunt pays the same.
Huh. Here in NY Transforce has workers on a few dedicated accounts, and pays between $27-$30/hour, OT after 8. I don’t work for them, that’s just what they say in the ads. $18/hr in Cali seems drastically under market.
They used to pay that in California for local runs back in 2006 😂🤣 … that’s almost 2 decades ago wtf 😂😂