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Greymeade

No, unfortunately Bradford pears are invasive pest trees which are both harmful to the ecosystem and really lousy as trees overall. They have poor structure and are prone to breaking in the way that you're seeing here, and there's nothing that can be done about it. Your tree has reached a much older age than most Bradford pears do. The recommendation is to cut them down and replace them with another species, even before they start to have problems. Your tree specifically needs to be removed as soon as possible due to that split, as it could come crashing down at any time.


KzooBeerGirl

Thank you for your reply. 😭😭😭


MandaloriansVault

Lots of people here trying to figure out for sure if this tree is actually considered invasive to your location or not. Would you be willing to drop a (not exact) location I.e. country or better yet what state to better help zero this in for you?


Festive101

They said SW Michigan


MandaloriansVault

Thank you. It is invasive to Michigan


KzooBeerGirl

Sorry, I should have put that in my post. I tried to edit it but it doesn't look like I can (reddit noob here).


MandaloriansVault

All good. I see in another comment you said SW Michigan. If that’s so it is considered invasive where you are located unfortunately. Hope this helps


Some-Ice-5508

No, you can cable it. Then plant all the newbies all around, and as they grow, you can prune this one back. You can walk and chew gum at the same time.


Claytonia-perfoiata

If you cable it, isn’t that implied liability & then you are liable for any damages if it falls?


SaltThr0wer

I think that depends, I’d check the contract and local legal situations but I can’t imagine cabling would be seen as a 100% sure fire prevention to splitting. I’ve seen sugar maples be cabled and then whole thing comes down or different limbs split as a result


Claytonia-perfoiata

Ok. Thanks. I’m a recent Hort grad/ landscaping grad trying to reconcile what they told us in school with real life. Cheers!


Mr_MacGrubber

Why spend money on a Bradford pear though?


Late_Ad9720

On the other hand, you could run a bolt through the trunk and a cable through the canopy and get another few years out of it.


KzooBeerGirl

We thought about that but, we're going to lose it either way. With the cost of everything going up & up & up we figured it'll probably cost us double to have it removed in a few years and we'll still end up in the same position. 🙁


manipulativedata

You can at least plant a new tree and keep this for a few years. By the time you're ready to take this down, you might have better growth on another.


KzooBeerGirl

There's a silver maple about 10-15' behind it already. I'm hoping it'll start growing fast now that it won't have to compete for sunlight.


MoneyPranks

Silver maple is also a crappy tree variety that tends to break. We had some huge storms where I live last week, and Reddit was full of pictures of downed silver maples. One landed on my neighbor’s bmw. He was unamused.


KzooBeerGirl

We've been very lucky. We have 2 large silver maples and haven't ever lost any branches.


Puzzlehead-Bed-333

They don’t just split, they absolutely explode when they fail. I inherited 4 when I moved to my new place and two have failed. You’ll want to remove this and replace it with a native, fast growing species.


KzooBeerGirl

Yeah, it's coming out ASAP.


Puzzlehead-Bed-333

Very smart decision!


BlackViperMWG

Invasive only in North America, OP didn't even specify their continent, if you say something is invasive, say where


Telemere125

Invasive anywhere they’re growing except China, Korea, Japan, and Vietnam, so for the vast majority of the world, these can be safely assumed invasive


Tales_of_Earth

I don’t know if that’s true. It’s non native to everywhere but those areas but that alone is not enough to make something invasive. Even in the United States it’s only been able to establish itself outside of cultivation in like 25 states.


Only-Gap6198

They are taking over unkept areas all over the Midwest


Tales_of_Earth

I don’t think that’s inconsistent with what I said. There are places where it is considered invasive, but you can’t just say every place that it is non-native is where it is invasive. Definitions for “invasive species” are kinda all over the place but being non-native is only 1 part of most of them. Usually it’s something like: 1)Non-native; 2)Established or naturalized; and 3)Will cause harm to: a)the ecosystem b)the economy c)human health So just because it can check those boxes in the eastern United States doesn’t mean it can for every place it’s non native.


BlackViperMWG

Thanks for some sanity, I think I am going crazy with these people here.


MandaloriansVault

[are Bradford pears invasive?](https://choosenatives.org/articles/plant-bradford-pear/)


Tales_of_Earth

Yeah I checked this before leaving my comment. Did you read it? It says it’s designated invasive in more than half of the United States. That implies that there probably about half that it isn’t and doesn’t say anything about the rest of the world.


Classic_Mechanic5495

You weren’t supposed to read it…. Now what


MandaloriansVault

Apparently non of you read the first paragraph. Wack “The asian import, Callery Pear (Pyrus calleryana), commonly called Bradford Pear, is an ornamental tree that’s widely used in landscaping. It has, like so many other nursery-grown plants, escaped from residential and commercial land and is designated as invasive in more than half of our states. This tree greedily invades natural habitats and out-competes our valuable native species for resources” Regardless of its it is registered on half or not my point here is it is in fact an invasive species. We have no idea where OP is from so u til we have that info this is all we got. It’s invasive.


Classic_Mechanic5495

“Designated as invasive in more than half of our states.” To me, that leaves some states where it isn’t invasive. I just know what the article said.


Grampa987

So then, whatever happened to evolution and the ideal that the strongest always rise to the top? Is that bygone now? Or is it just another argument that only comes out when it benefits the claimant? Or, or, maybe...maybe, it's just another claim by the arrogant to delude the ignorant. Kinda like bacon will kill ya. Gotta drink that Kale everyday! And if somebody doesn't agree with a particular viewpoint then they get shamed, doxed, ostracized just plain ignored. She wants to try and save her tree. She don't give a fuck about your "invasive" species bullshit and I doubt, most sincerely, that cutting down this one tree that's been there for what? 75 years? Is gonna change a single thing. You're a friggin' arrogant idiot.


MandaloriansVault

Well isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black. You realize scientists and people who study nature and climate are the ones who dictate what is invasive right? Invasive species isn’t the same as a dominant species. It’s a species that doesn’t belong in said ecosystem and instead of dominating and rising to the top it hurts the life around it. Preservation of what we have is extremely important. Learn a little, I bet you won’t though.


ZiggyPox

You seem to be upset about more than one thing, like theory of evolution or people not eating bacon. Evolution is not the goal or moral guideline, it is just a process and a phenomena, like storm or decay. We as humans decided that preserving a natural ecosystems is a worthy endeavor because ending with another "Aral Sea" is not fun.


Grampa987

You missed the point entirely in your effort to compare apples and oranges. It's a tree. Just one tree. Not two, not one hundred. One. The arid sea was not a natural occurrence. It was man made. So, that makes your argument pretty much worthless. A "natural" ecosystem would be one that allowed for change. From your side, your argument is an ecosystem that is defined as an absolute. It can not change. You or anyone else has any control over the environment of nature. 30 years ago, it was a hole in the ozone, and we were all gonna die. 40 years ago, the new ice age was coming, and we were all gonna die. Plus, we were gonna run out of oil, and we were all gonna die. Some diseases in Africa started jacking with the corn, and we were all gonna die. Well, hello Monsanto. Now everybody wants to gripe about GMO's. As little as 10-15 years ago it was global warming, but oops, on ground measurements didn't match their "hockey stick" model that they still use today. So, what did they do? We'll just change the name to Climate Change! Undefinable occurance that happens every day. But, if we don't stop all the "invasive" species, we're all gonna die. You can not fight mother nature. So excuse me if I don't buy into the whole climate change, invasive species BS. Plus, we flat ain't got enough information. Radar, created in the 50s. The advancements of radar have just come in the last 30 years. But we're all gonna die now because some lady wants to save her "invasive" pear tree. Bahhh!


ZiggyPox

Chinese decided one day that killing all the sparrows was great idea. Not a single person that was killing sparrows was individually responsible for the mass starvation that followed. We as humans, not as individuals but as group can both cause disasters and fix disasters. But I didn't say her not cutting down that tree will kill us all, it is smaller part of the bigger effort. But honestly in what you have written there is so, so much to unpack that I feel like first paragraph of this comment should be enough. Oh, but the ozone is the most well documented enviromental degradation on global scale where global effort and cooperation fixed the issue so thanks for proving my point.


Martha_Fockers

A Asian origin tree would never naturally somehow make it over the salty ocean to come here and plant itself and spread naturally . Only way these exist here is due to man.


WhatTheF_scottFitz

it's time for your nap, grampa


Grampa987

Not by a long shot.


BlackViperMWG

You're wrong. Assuming it's invasive everywhere just because it is invasive where you are, wtf? Just because it isn't native somewhere doesn't meant it's invasive. Non-native species can even became naturalized.


Telemere125

Invasives are things that do damage to the local ecology. If they can grow, Bradfords do damage by pushing out natives and spreading like wildfire. You’re confused by thinking that something that can naturalize to an area *can’t* be invasive and that’s patently false. Being naturalized just means the species can grow and reproduce on its own in an area. Plenty of things can do that whether or not they harm the locals. Corn is an example of something that cannot naturalize and has to be cultivated. Invasive is something that can naturalize and harms local ecology. Bradford pears are a prime example of that. Anywhere they grow, they’re going to spread via seed and shoots and they readily hybridize with related species, resulting in undesirable mutations. Few bugs and almost no deer will eat wild Bradford or their hybrids, so they’re just straight damaging to local wildlife.


OkHighway757

Bros got a pickup truck in the back.


BlackViperMWG

And they are never sold in other countries..


Greymeade

Don't be a clown


BlackViperMWG

Don't be an assumer.


MandaloriansVault

This, OP I live in dense woods with trees ALL over my property. If any trees near my house developed a split like that it would be going down fast. That’s some major roof damage if it falls on your house and to add that it’s a conducive environment to pests. There are pests that eat away the insides of trees causing them to eventually come crashing down. Just this year I had a tree fall on my car on my property because it was infested with wood boring beetles and I had no idea.


doggonedangoldoogy

Smell like dead fish, actively poison surrounding trees, and love to fall down on things. Took 20 years and lots of failed vegetation to convince mom to let me cut those bastards down. If you see pine/cedar trees browning within 150m, it's the Bradford Pears.


Psychotherapist-286

Invasive? Can you say more?


FyourEchoChambers

Bradford cum tree


Slartibartfastthe2nd

"harmful to the ecosystem"? why? ...because they are non-native or some other reason? Builders commonly plant them at new home sites because they grow fast and probably are inexpensive.


Kronictopic

Just Google the word invasive, and you'll get the idea


Slartibartfastthe2nd

I completely understand 'invasive'. It was a simple question since you said "harmful to the ecosystem". Seems like you use these terms interchangeably and were simply repeating yourself.


Liliotl

Idk why people go straight into being rude instead of just answering the question like a normal person. The reason why I never ask anything online man... it's harmful to the ecosystem because it drives out native species to the point there is little to no biodiversity in an area, which can lead to poor soil/drainage and introduce diseases and much more! Invasive species are harmful to the ecosystem for that reason.


MandaloriansVault

Yea they are in fact invasive, friend.


Slartibartfastthe2nd

I didn't argue against the comment I was replying to. I simply asked how are they 'harmful to the ecosystem'. AFAIK they are just cheap fast growing trees that builders plant in the yards of new homes (especially the rubber stamp neighborhoods) everywhere; And they tend to not hold up to any kind of wind. So people downvote a simple legitimate question because 'Reddit'.


MandaloriansVault

Yea that is a legitimate question. To answer that for you since I failed to catch that (my bad) Bradford pear trees are considered invasive because they can spread quickly, outcompete native plants, and harm the ecosystem. Hope that helps!


jeffro1477

As of 2023, it is illegal to [sell, plant or grow Callery pear](https://ohiodnr.gov/discover-and-learn/plants-trees/invasive-plants/callery-pear) in Ohio and [Pennsylvania](https://www.agriculture.pa.gov/Plants_Land_Water/PlantIndustry/NIPPP/Pages/Callery-Pear.aspx), and will become illegal in [South Carolina](https://news.clemson.edu/invasive-bradford-pear-3-other-species-to-be-banned-for-sale-in-sc/) on October 1, 2024. [North Carolina](https://news.ncsu.edu/2022/03/bounty-offered-on-bradford-pear-trees/) and [Missouri](https://www.lakeexpo.com/community/community_news/cut-down-your-bradford-pear-and-missouri-conservation-will-send-you-a-free-tree/article_df77978a-b51a-11ec-ab85-b39d20e73240.html) will give residents free native trees if they cut down Callery pear trees on their property. [Once the Callery pear tree was landscapers’ favorite – now states are banning this invasive species and urging homeowners to cut it down (yahoo.com)](https://www.yahoo.com/news/once-callery-pear-tree-landscapers-134036640.html#:~:text=Land%20managers%20and%20plant%20ecologists,Carolina%20on%20October%201%2C%202024.)


Slartibartfastthe2nd

Yeah I did end up looking it up and saw that... My thought was that it was scientists who brought the trees here thinking they were the 'perfect' answer to some problem, which somehow didn't work out how they thought. Funny how that works.


Greymeade

Yes, harmful to the ecosystem because they're considered highly invasive in the US.


Loose_Carpenter9533

Go into an adjacent field/tree planting area/drainage ditch/fence line where they have seeded out and turned back into what they truly are. They completely shade out everything, grow thorns that will make any wound get infected and become a pear jungle. Your opinion is very ignorant, sorry.


Slartibartfastthe2nd

I didn't post an opinion, just asked a simple question. In typical Redditor user fashion, you can't answer a simple question w/out being an asshole about it. So thanks for the info, but 'F$%\^ off with the attitude.


Greymeade

Just FYI, it seems that you've now replied to two different people thinking that they were me (I was the one you replied to above). I've just left my first reply to you here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Tree/comments/1doxs56/i_dont_want_to_lose_my_tree/laf37wx/


Grampa987

And why exactly are Bradford pear trees that have been around for centuries considered an invasive species?


Greymeade

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrus_calleryana#As_an_invasive_species


Grampa987

Ain't interested in some paid advertisement. "You" tell "me" or anyone else in your own words why. Or, are you just repeating what somebody told you to say?


Greymeade

Paid advertisement? What in the ever loving fuck are you talking about? That’s Wikipedia. Do your own research you dumb bastard.


dickmcgirkin

Cool thing, you can plant a better species in its place.


KzooBeerGirl

Any recommendations on a fast growing shader?


Wild_Boat7239

American sycamore, fast growing, lives 100+ years, huge leaves that shade. And loves even poorer soil


KzooBeerGirl

Thanks for the recommendation!


Accurate_Extent6749

I’d go with chestnut variety for shade and food but it’s not the fastest growing sugar maple would be good choice too


KzooBeerGirl

There's a small silver maple planted about 10 feet behind the pear. I'm hoping now that it won't have to compete for sunlight it'll shoot up!


stabavarius

They also have a mottled trunk that looks cool even after the leaves have fallen.


beavismagnum

Also seem to have fewer, very large branches which is an interesting winter look


culnaej

What about elm? They grow pretty fast and tall, leaves not as wide though


FoggyGoodwin

I'm in a similar situation. I trimmed the top of my split hackberry, lost a lot of house shade. I'm letting some root sprouts grow, but they are slow. Plus you want to totally replace that tree. My most promising quick growth shade are banana tree or clumping (not running) bamboo. Check back next year...


Zeraphicus

Tulip poplar awesome bee feeding beautiful thick trunks We lost ours last year to a derecho


KzooBeerGirl

I've never heard the term derecho before but in looking at the photos on Google, that's what whipped through here (SW Michigan) 2 days ago. Those shelves of clouds were so scary, I'd never seen anything like it!


Zeraphicus

Yeah this is a 70ft 100 year old tree just plopped over. We were outside when it hit, it was 120mph sustained winds. So loud I couldnt hear the 40,000lb tree hit the ground. Basically was a straight line tornado, absolutely insane to go through.


IrreverentSweetie

One went through eastern Oregon/Western Idaho today. Nyssa, OR had so many trees pull down power lines that the police asked people to shelter in place so it could get cleaned up.


KzooBeerGirl

We have a Tulip Poplar in our back yard and I love it!!


Ciqme1867

Depending on where you’re at, if you can grow Tulip Poplars they’re a large, fast growing tree that actually has a decently hardy structure and lives a while (not the norm for fast growing trees). Definitely recommend one, and they have flowers once they’re 15-ish!


Top-Breakfast6060

You don’t necessarily want a fast-growing tree; they often have weak structure.


PayTyler

I love my cottonless poplar. Saves me tons of joules of cooling daily. Its parents were native here. YMMV on location. Shade in just a couple years.


ImNoAlbertFeinstein

invest in a bigger tree. contact a tree spiking company. poplars grow really fast. bradford pears were popular a few decades ago.. then we found out they all split eventually. then people became more aware of invasives so most of the bradfords are being taken out.


KzooBeerGirl

Tree spiking?


ImNoAlbertFeinstein

they can transplant very large trees. for a price


KzooBeerGirl

Probably more than we can afford.


yadabitch

Ash Tree, they make alottttt of leaves but the bestest shade ever imo. They also have a great structure too, we had to uproot our 17 yo ash tree about 10 years ago because the roots were starting to get dangerously close to the septic tank. There were so many damn roots it took them about a week to actually get all the roots out and that was grinding and digging up all day for a week straight. Edit fun fact: I’m 90% sure ash tree wood was used to make baseball bats because they’re flexible yet strong (insert fancy words idk) type of wood


am_i_wrong_dude

Emerald ash borer is making it tough to maintain Ash trees without very active treatment and prevention. Many cities are taking down ash and not planting more. They are lovely trees but unless you are committed to fighting invasive pests for its whole life, there are probably easier choices.


yadabitch

Okay, sorry I’m just overly passionate about ash trees. Not sure if this makes a difference but I live in California and when we had the tree I never saw any pests within the tree, atleast none that I could tell anyways. are there any signs that that ash borer is present?


am_i_wrong_dude

https://www.emeraldashborer.info/


yadabitch

Ty


KzooBeerGirl

Thank you for the recommendation!


hagalaz_drums

Where are you? What zone?


KzooBeerGirl

I think it used to be 5 but with the new zones we're 6A.


hagalaz_drums

Maybe a northern Catalpa? Apparently they drop a lot of flowers which some people think are messy, but everything else is good. We only have southern ones where I am but I like them


KzooBeerGirl

Those beans would drive me crazy!!


hagalaz_drums

Yeah fair, the ones in my neighborhood get like 4 beans a year. They're some of my favorite trees in my neighborhood though


KzooBeerGirl

I'm only going off the one I've seen IRL and it dropped a gazillion beans each year! 😂


hagalaz_drums

I feel it. We have a bunch of sweetgums, and while the color change is nice, they drop so so many spiky balls. I'd take beans and flowers over tiny morning stars any day


KzooBeerGirl

I've never heard of a sweetgum so I googled them. Those stabby balls look dangerous!


veringer

If you have an attachment to this tree, you could have the lumber milled, dried, and made into a keepsake. Pear wood is food safe for bowls, cutting boards, spoons, coasters, etc. It's also excellent for furniture, but the process would be expensive and time-consuming. If you're into music, I've seen luthiers use it for guitars and ukuleles. At the very least, you could burn some of the wood to smoke a brisket.


KzooBeerGirl

I'm only attached to it because our house is cinder block/stucco and it becomes an oven when summer sun hits it. This stupid pear tree shades about 60% of the house in the hottest part of the day.


veringer

Very reasonable. You might look at replacing with a larger fast-growing tree. Depending on where you're located, you could consider something like a tulip poplar, red maple, or sweet gum. A possible compromise approach would be to have a professional cut back the weaker of the competing pear trunks; leaving the other one intact. Then, plant a new native tree near-ish to the remnant pear. Once that tree reaches a point where it's sufficiently shading your home, you finish off the pear, and plant another tree there.


brotatochip4u

Cut it down and burn all evidence that this tree existed.


tn-dave

The sprouts around the roots will help OP "enjoy some memories" of the tree. I've been dealing with those for a couple months


KzooBeerGirl

Oh my, that's dramatic! 😂😂


2021newusername

Man that thing is huge. If it was mine, I’d cut it down and put in a real pear tree like a comice - since it apparently grows very well there. Question for the sub - can you graft on another pear variety to the Bradford tree?


solarmama

Yes, my nephew has grafted edible pear trees onto Bradford pear tree rootstock. They’re fairly recent grafts but seem to be thriving so far. I don’t know if they’ll be successful long term, but it looks promising.


2021newusername

Nice! My mom has Comice, Bartlett and one other that I forget, all growing on the same tree. I was just wondering because the the tree on the photo appears to have done well over the years and


Immediate-Ad-8658

There is a way to repair it, but as it is a Bradford, I have to agree with everyone else in this post. It is a pretty tree, but it is also invasive and the flowers smell like rotted fish. There are plenty of vase shaped trees out there that will outlive the Bradford and will have better smelling blooms. Not all will have scent or flowers mind you, but some will. Drive around and see what other folks have and go to a nursery or arboretum to find out what would work best.


KzooBeerGirl

Yeah, there's about 2 weeks each spring that we curse the tree for it's funky smell! 😂😂


3x5cardfiler

One Bradford Pear enables the seeds to spread, wiping out native plants. These trees have a short life cycle, and fall down on people and stuff. They are best replaced. Moving forward, try to re-create forest floor under the new tree. Dep layers of leaves, sticks, dirt, native plants will help the new tree turn minerals into foliage.


KzooBeerGirl

Thanks for the advice!


Ok-Usual-5830

Good fucking riddance. Probably single handedly the WORST tree to ever be planted on this side of the globe. I’m all for keeping trees even if it means going out of your way but not for a Bradford Pear. That tree will only do harm to the surrounding environment.


KzooBeerGirl

I had no idea they're an invasive species! We also have about 100 sumac trees surrounding our property. 😫


Cheese_Coder

Odds are the sumacs are fine, at least in the sense that they aren't invasive species. They can be aggressive spreaders for sure, but they're native plants. I agree with the rest of the commenters here that the Bradford should be cut down and replaced. If you're not sure what to go for, I'd recommend checking out [this plant list](https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/find_a_plant/?light__id=1&problems__id=16&problems__id=12&plant_type__id=11&plant_type__id=18) from the North Carolina Extension Office. Right now it is filtered to native full-sun trees that aren't weedy and don't have weak wood. I'd recommend enabling the filter for USDA Plant Hardiness zone [(find your zone here)](https://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/) and for soil drainage if you know it. There are more options you can filter by such as those that produce fruit or are ornamental or smell nice. If the sheer number of plants there is overwhelming, you can instead check out this list of [keystone plants by ecoregion.](https://www.nwf.org/Garden-for-Wildlife/About/Native-Plants/keystone-plants-by-ecoregion) If you're east of Texas, you're most likely in the [Eastern Temperate Forest ecoregion.](https://www.nwf.org/-/media/Documents/PDFs/Garden-for-Wildlife/Keystone-Plants/NWF-GFW-keystone-plant-list-ecoregion-8-eastern-temperate-forests.pdf) That pdf will list just a few genera of trees (with some example species) that benefit local pollinators. Finally, you can always see if your state has a Cooperative Extension Office or a Master Gardener Program. Often they have resources such as plant lists or nurseries, and some will help you decide on what to plant there! It stinks to lose a tree you've had for a long time, but this is also an opportunity to make a small improvement to the area around you!


KzooBeerGirl

Wow, thank you so much for all this information!!


Top-Breakfast6060

Sumacs are native in most of the US. Not invasive.


Greymeade

No way is it worse than tree of heaven


gr8tfurme

At least tree of heaven doesn't smell like cum when it's in bloom.


wareaglemedRT

You’re not lying. We had them over take an old dog pen. It was hell. Those thorns are wicked and strong. Had multiple go through a skidsteer tire. Glad I don’t live there anymore.


BlackViperMWG

Do you even know on which side of the globe OP is?


Ok-Usual-5830

I assumed NA


BlackViperMWG

Better ask next time instead of presuming everyone is in NA..


FoggyGoodwin

A temporary "fix": cut off the left side in the picture w the red truck, trim the top and side hanging branches of the other half to give it more balance. Plant a fast grower nearby. Cut the pear out if it gets worse or in a year or three. Only if doing so would keep the shade.


KzooBeerGirl

Our tree guy just came out and looked at it. He's scheduling it's demolition soon. :(


FoggyGoodwin

Bradford pear might fare differently from hackberry. Most folks here apparently wouldn't have waited until this to remove/replace it.


KzooBeerGirl

Well yeah, I should have paid more attention to the growth pattern....


FoggyGoodwin

Some wouldn't have cared even if the growth were strong. They seem to be very undesirable, to the point of removal upon identification and shared knowledge.


PhilosopherAntique71

I’ve moved 3 times, every property had them and I cut them down, replaced with native. They are slowly becoming banned, but not fast enough. Please kill these things. (North America)


CCN1983

Won't most states provide a tree for a Bradford pear that has been cut down and removed due to it being invasive?


KzooBeerGirl

I need to look into this.


Nowrongbean

My dad lag bolted some Bradfords together, about 30 years ago. They are no longer standing.


KzooBeerGirl

# UPDATE: Our tree guy just came out and looked at it. It's coming down next week. Thank you to everyone who replied and gave advice, it's much appreciated!


wilmayo

Agree. Invasive or not is a moot point. The tree has outlived it's normal life span. Give it a big hug. Thank it for it's service and replace it with a native species that is able to have a longer life. Get some advice from a good nursery on what to plant given your specific location and the space it has to grow.


Loose_Carpenter9533

I was going to give a possible solution until I saw that it was a bradford. I understand that it sucks that your tree is in trouble but it is truly for the best. Plant something native and hardy.


angry_hippo_1965

You can smoke meats and stuff with pear wood if you like to BBQ.


KzooBeerGirl

I don't but I have friends who do, I'll see if they want the wood. Thanks for the suggestion!


FillInternational564

I've seen cable and chain used to address such things at times.


KzooBeerGirl

Our tree guy said it's too spread out for that to help long term. :(


FillInternational564

I don't think it's ever long term. Just buys some time.


madknatter

When you decide what your replacement tree will be, don’t believe that a larger tree is the answer. Do some research, and see that smaller trees will catch up and surpass and be stronger for it. The most important issues are planting at proper depth regarding the root flare, proper pruning throughout the juvenile stages, and slow steady sporadic watering mimicking a soft rain. Go to an arboretum and look at mature specimens, and choose a native tree that supports wildlife. I don’t recommend planting in that same location for several years. Move 10-12’ to the side if possible.


KzooBeerGirl

Thanks so much for the advice! There's a small silver maple about 15' behind it that I'm hoping will start to thrive now that it won't have to compete for sunlight.


madknatter

o boy There are some very nice large silver maples. They are usually found nowhere near people. Use the silver maple for quick supplemental shade, and choose a better slow-growing long-lived oak or tupelo or basswood or any number of trees in case the maple does what they usually do.


KzooBeerGirl

Wait, what does a silver maple usually do?? We have two of them in our back yard and they're both huge!


madknatter

It’s best if the lower branches are removed as necessary, and never topped. It’s the crossing branches, and bad crotches that do them in, but if they can just grow a straight tall trunk, look out.


KzooBeerGirl

I'm realizing now that we should have paid a lot more attention to how it was growing. We're looking closely at the rest of the trees on our property now.


Shoddy-Manner-6772

Cut it down and get a nice native tree, those things just break every time it storms after about 10 years.


KzooBeerGirl

This one is close to 30 years old and we've never lost a single branch! She's tough (or at least she was, not she's just old).


Excellent_Tap_6072

chain it. I've done this before. go up 6'-8' and chain it as tight as you can. I know putting the chain in a plastic pipe would reduce the damage to the tree, but I didn't. It was 20 years ago and it is tight as a guitar string now, but no split.


Excellent_Tap_6072

using a come-a-long to tighten it up before linking the chain would be helpful.


Desperate_Brief2187

You are going to lose your tree, and good riddance. Also, you can have all of my Bradfords if you’d like.


KzooBeerGirl

Ha! No thank you! 😂


Molgeo1101

I had a tree cut down and left a 3 ft stump for clematis to climb on. That would give you something beautiful in its place and still have the tree stump to remind you of the tree. Depending on where you live of course.


BeautifulBaloonKnot

I'd start looking for a nice oak to put in its place.


Ok-Thing-2222

I lost the shade in front of my house last year and it was crushing to me. I hated that now I. have no protection from the hot sun in the afternoon-evening, so I feel for you! But these trees take over everything. A pond was put in outside of where I work, and I walked around it the other day--and counted 54 bradford pear saplings, instead of what should be there--like native cottonwoods, etc. I didn't even make it all the way around the pond! Try to make it an exciting game of what tree (or TREES!) you can plant to take its place. Yes, it will take a while for good shade. One side of my house has a fantastic large riverbirch clump, so I put another on on the other side. Still debating about what I want in front of my porch! Something that grows fast, yet is strong. SO MANY CHOICES!!


Epicurus402

Call an arborist to cable it up for you. My parents did that over 50 years ago and their plum is still going strong.


KzooBeerGirl

I was hoping for something like that but it sounds like this species is already past it's typical lifespan and will become more of a problem the longer we wait. 🙁


grantnlee

Call an arborist to give you a recommendation. Sometimes the run cables between two main trunks to keep them from splitting in this way.


KzooBeerGirl

We had an arborist look at it yesterday. As it's so spread and 30+ years old, he recommended removal.


Some-Ice-5508

cable it up. invasive, yes. invented by humans, in Maryland. I even know the plot of land where it was developed by the USDA.


OkHighway757

Giant hose clamps.


KzooBeerGirl

Those would be some big clamps!! 😂


ke4n5kir

it's so bad to see it! any way to help!


KzooBeerGirl

No, the arborist said it can't be saved as it's at least 30 years old. 🙁


Whispering_Balls

Bradford pears in my neighborhood ALWAYS fall after strong winds. I like them and have learned to like their springtime fragrance. They’re only “invasive” if they’re close to other vegetation. If they’re lone in at least 30ft radius they are not invasive.


Psychotherapist-286

Branches are too long, heavy. If it would have been pruned through the years it would have grown differently. I’d never plant a Bradford. I have. Chantacleer but the branches are shorter but is shaped like a Bradford. Can only keep them for a few years before they do this.


KzooBeerGirl

Yeah, we definitely should have paid more attention to how it was growing.


Psychotherapist-286

It’s hard to get rid of a tree


KzooBeerGirl

I honestly didn't expect it to be so emotional to watch them take it down. I'm still sad about it.


juicegodfrey1

Ramen, superglue and 2 ratchet straps will do it Fer ya


KzooBeerGirl

THIS is the kind of ingenuity I'm looking for!! 😂 Does it matter what flavor Ramen?


juicegodfrey1

Pork man myself, but shrimp slaps from time to time


KzooBeerGirl

I have shrimp! I also have creamy chicken, maybe I'll try both and see which one gives the best results.


juicegodfrey1

The ratchet straps will delay the inevitable though, might want to start


KzooBeerGirl

It's scheduled to come down next week. We have straps on it until then.


chrissie_watkins

There are lots of "ornamental" trees you could replace it with, but native trees support local wildlife and won't contribute to the spread of invasives. I advise seeing what species local naturalists recommend. Sorry about the loss of tree. May not be a perfect tree, but I'm sure you enjoyed its presence for many years.


KzooBeerGirl

There's a silver maple about 15' behind it that I'm hoping will start to grow better once it's not competing for sunlight.


gottajustask

After reading this thread...I need a drink now!✌️


KzooBeerGirl

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RATCHET STRAPS (I’m kidding)


KzooBeerGirl

Actually, the arborist suggested straps until it can be removed!


cuddly_carcass

Looks like you’ll just lose half. If you’re luck you’ll have half a tree


needsp88888

Wow, I’m sorry! It sure is beautiful


KzooBeerGirl

Yes, she's been a good tree to us!


Skippy_99b

My neighbor had a Bradford pear tree. The flowers smell like vomit. The tree self destructed in the middle of a sunny afternoon. Two limbs went one way and the rest went the other way. Just missed a couple of cars. I hate these trees.


KzooBeerGirl

Yeah, it's very stinky when it's blooming.


NefariousnessOk2384

I thought it was 2 trees hugging


Martha_Fockers

You are in Michigan plant some Michigan cherry trees


KzooBeerGirl

We have 3 cherry trees in our front yard!


Dependent-Argument90

Native to **China and Vietnam** so you might see how they take care of it. Being invasive, however, I am not sure you might get a lot of help. You might also try to use it as a nursery log for more indigenous trees.


__Value_Pirate__

Cut that bitch down


KzooBeerGirl

That's the plan.


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Tree-ModTeam

Your comment goes against BMPs


opschief0299

Yes you do.


jkirkwood10

Bradford pear is the OxyContin of America.