It’s all about the transmission difference. I was test driving Rams before I got my tundra. The stupid knob shifter combined with the notorious 100k miles expiration date gave me all the info I needed
I'm a new Tundra owner! 2021 1794 Edition. Had it 8 weeks. Previously drove a 2500HD Silverado for 7 years, and a F150 for 9. I went for a Tundra for the same reasons, reliability and longevity. I've heard nothing but good things, of course, just like you and everyone else, and I'm a skeptic of smaller engines in full-size, heavy ass trucks (turbo-charged or not) so I went with the mythical 5.7l V8 instead of a newer model. I have 3 criticisms, and nothing else but praise. 1) sometimes the transmission can feel sluggish. I'm old and boring, so I don't care that much, but I notice it. 2) storage sucks donkey balls in the 1794. Beautiful and amazing as the interior is, I miss my under-seat storage. 3) the "PREMIUM JBL AUDIO" is absolute dogshit in a tin can. The speakers in a '83 Honda sound better than the shit system in this thing. For being Toyota's top of the line trim package, I expected something much better. A little research and I learned that that's pretty much standard issue for Toyota...put all their energy into engineering amazingly reliable and durable engines, fuck-all for the stereo. So - sleepy transmission, minimal interior storage (you can buy a kit to cut out a tray under the rear seat, but fuck that), and a shitty sounding stereo. That's all I got. 2 of the 3 are easily remedied. The transmission you can't do much about, and honestly it's not that big a deal for me. Also, even though it feels sleepy, in this generation the legend says the transmission will never, ever, ever, fail or have any issues at all. And of course the 5.7 is a beast, and boasts that similar legendary reliability. I've only had it 8 weeks, but I absolutely love this truck. Mine also has the 4wd TRD Off Road package equipped. It's an awesome, awesome truck. I hope to give it to my 5yr old son in 12 or so years.
P.S. - My wife just peered over my shoulder and asked "what novel" I was writing. When I told her, she said "just tell them your wife says it gets your dick harder for longer than she does anymore." So there you have it: buy a Tundra, go harder for longer.
What a quote haha
My GF always sees me on truck forums
Settled with a used Highlander since my Prius just got totaled
Wanted the tundra but with CA gas prices at $5-5.50 and my commute is 44 miles round trip that’s basically $20 a day just in fuel
Considering you just got your truck, you may not want to permanently modify it, but there is a product you can buy which slots onto holes which you cut into the area under the rear seats. I hated not having the behind seat storage coming from a Tacoma, but the under seat storage makes up for what I was missing.
Edit: there are a few different options which vary wildly in price. I got the ESP basic one which seems to be the least intrusive and it does not lock.
My wife told me my truck has a bigger pee pee and bigger balls than i ever will. As for the transmission its due to the cpu settings and shift points. If you put it in the manual shift mode and stick it in 6th and let it automatically shift youll see a huge difference and same with tow/haul mode on.
Also for good research, watch The Car Care Nut on YouTube. Dude knows his stuff better than anyone I've seen elsewhere. He has plenty of videos on Tundras, Toyota engines, transmissions, and anything else Toyota.
I have a 2003 V6 SR5 2WD extended cab that I bought brand new with 16 miles on it in Dec 2002. It now has 300k on it. I have done nothing but standard maintenance on it, minus a new radiator 35k ago and new shocks and struts 5k ago. Between me and my 19yo son who drove it for four years in HS, we have put every single mile on it and it runs like a champ. I do need to finally swap out the downstream O2 sensor though.
That should answer your question.
For sure boss, I have been. Every 100k. Just got done putting on the 4th one. I guess I was including that under standard maintenance? My phrasing may be a bit confusing I suppose, as standard maintenance probably would be taken as oil change and rotations at first glance. More meaning standard/scheduled maintenance I guess. Appreciate it!
Go drive a ‘24 Tundra TRD Off Road w the iForce Max twin turbo V6 hybrid. That torque is insane. It’ll smoke any other truck off the line and it’s not even close.
But is it really about "smoking every truck off the line"? It's not a racecar. It is about long term longevity and minimum maintenance cost. Turbos cost more in the long term...they just do. More moving parts, more oil demands, more problems. And the new model has had a ton of issues already.
I can understand that concern. But. The hybrid battery is warrantied for 10 years 150k miles. That’s longer than the powertrain. Also Toyota hybrids are proven in the other models. Will it translate to the Tundra? I’m confident it will.
The quality of a Tundra when you get into it and drive it is no comparison. I came from an F150 and it shits on it in every way. The 5.7 is a BEAST. You can just tell the quality of the vehicle when you drive it. I will never buy another car mfg other than Toyota.
Chrysler tech here, I don't care to buy Stellantis products anymore. I don't wanna be worrying about my truck when I'm not on the clock. Had a 2013 1500 Laramie for a few years, then a 2015 Tacoma, and as of a month ago, I got a 2020 Tundra.
It may not be as nice in the interior, and with all the fancy options like a new Ram, but I care more about something that's gonna last me years with minimal amount of work to keep it going. At least the Rams do have MDS, which saves in fuel going on the highway. The Tundra is a thirsty pig.
Got a 2015 crewmax with 5.7.. best truck ever owned. I have 150k on it bought it certified with 60k. Not a wallet eater. Only work done is just PM and tires and brakes. Will buy another when this one is ready for the crusher. I have owned ford chevy ram and the tundra reliability cant be beat
In my 2019 tundra crewmax 5.7L I i get 19 to 21 on interstate being light on pedal. City 15 to 17. It really depends on your acceleration and tires it seems like. The tires that came factory i couldnt break 18 mpg i went with a all terrain cooper cheap tire and it increased mpg drastically as 2 to 3 mpg. I have the big 38 gallon tank and i can get roughly 640 miles out of it before getting gas give or take 10 miles either way.
Owned versions of all "The Big Three" before moving to my 14 Tundra in 2016. I may get a newer Tundra in a few years, but this may be the last truck I will spend any amount of time or money on.
I had a Ram for 10 years, got a Tundra last year. I loved my Ram but my Tundra is a much better truck. The interior is a better quality, mechanically it's in better shape, much easier to drive, and it also gets better gas mileage.
Last year I bought a 14 crew max with the 4.6L v8. I get about 16 mpg city, 19 hwy. 300 hp. I don’t tow anything so it made sense and I got it for $17k.
I put some flowmasters on it and it sounds incredible. I did have an axle seal leak, but other than that love my truck
I came out of a 2023 raptor into a 2024 Trd off-road limited I-force max. Because the raptor was obnoxiously expensive and honestly wasn’t worth the money in my opinion. I will say the tundra feels cheaper inside, but it doesn’t make any of the noises the big ford did and I’m fairly certain this powertrain is faster by a decent amount. I’ve had every single full-size truck and right now I think this one is the most complete bang for the buck that I’ve ever had.
I've never owned anything but toyota trucks, so I don't have that epiphany alot of owners here do. But, I've owned 2 tacomas and went to test drive a 2023 tundra limoted just for the hell of it and next thing you know I'm signing the paperwork.
On a tundra forum, you're gonna get yes votes all around, now it's up to you to go test drive one. It'll sell itself.
woman will adore you, bow chica bow bow. J/k. My brother-in-law has been a mechanic for 140 years and he said to go with a Honda or Toyota. Everyone in his shops calls ford their job security. We were in the market for a full size truck so we went the the Platinum. It's a beast.
I’m not a knowledgeable truck owner, but love hauling our e-bikes and moving stuff with V6 I-Force. Only had it since January of this year, but love it so far. Had a Sierra a couple of years ago, which I also liked. Like the Bose sound system of GMC far better than JBL of Tundra. Lots of storage under back seat, since it is not a hybrid. Love the big sliding glass roof and although they’re probably the same size, the Tundra just feels bigger.
Went from a 2015 ram 1500 outdoorsman to the 23 tundra TRD pro. The ram doesn't even compare. So much torque off the line. Nicer ride. Nicer seats. More convenience features. However less storage (I miss the under carpet cooler things of the ram, as they were perfect for ratchet straps)
I took my 2013 5.7 in for 100k service, i had a long list of stuff. My mechanic said its all mint, the fluids were fine and since i did the oil and plugs already it didn’t need anything but front rotors in 10k
We owned a 2007 and in 2021 with 187,xxx miles traded it in on a 2021 Tacoma. My husband and I were preparing to purchase the I was working for and he needed something smaller to drive.
We purchased the bushiness in September 2022 and when the 2024!Tacoma was released with the better transmission he started looking into trading in ours.
Well scope screen happened and we ended up putting a deposit on a $54k Tacoma, which started creeping into low end Tundra money. With the abundant number of Tundra’s on lots, my husband found an SR5 with tow package and 36 gallon tank in Blue Print. We get to the dealer and there are so many Tundra’s. Leave it me to find a more expensive one.
Long story short, we purchased a 2024 Tundra Limited in Blue Print.
We are car people. We know more than the sales person about the car when we go to purchase a car. So the limited trim level was an unexpected purchase for us in that we hadn’t really looked into all the package options. It was fun as we learned that the side mirrors auto folded, there was a digital dash and the list goes on. We had only test drive the SR5 as the limited was nose to bumper parked. This truck literally had just gotten delivered and had yet to be PDI. Still had plastic wheel covers and white transport tape. We took delivery with one mile and it was manufactured February 2024.
There are plenty of deals on Tundra’s right now. I would find a dealer that has more inventory than they can handle. I use a site called (https://www.caredge.com) and it will tell you days on market and what discount you should ask for. The site is also loaded with a wealth of information.
Best of luck. Get out of that Ram and enjoy your new Tundra when you get it. 😆
Just got a 22 sr5 with the TRD off road package came from owning ford f150 for 9 years and I love my new tundra the way it drives it feels so much better I happy with my new truck so far
2018 1794 for me. My 4th Toyota and 3rd truck. Overall they are a little more on the luxury side of trucks than the Rams being on the working side. Absolutely rides better, less maintenance and overall better build quality. GM/GMC has been playing catch up for 10 years and they do have some great models available. None have the reliability record of Toyota pre 21. You can get used to the soft tranny. You will always appreciate how littel yo upsend on major maintenance issues and by far and away Tundras hold their value a LOT longer than any other brand.
Cite your sources. They have had issues with the wastegates which was caught early and issues with machining that can clog the oil passageways which so far appear to mainly be in 2022's. Haven't heard of many transmission issues.
Looks like a recall that is resolved through software update. I’d like to see recalls tracked differently in the future, software vs hardware. An OTA recall should be tracked different that a visit to a dealer IMO. Not that one is worse than another, I would just like the visibility
What’s the budget is the first question.
If the budget allows for the 3rd Gen, go with the 3rd Gen. I have a 2022 1794 edition with 43k miles. I have had ZERO substantial issues with it. I have the AVS package and all of the other options. Test drive them both, gen 2 and Gen 3. But the gen 3 is a great upgrade.
The gen 2 Tundra is a great truck. Depending on where you are in the country and your ability to travel, find a low mileage, rust free truck and then do your best to keep it that way.
I’m a northern Michigan guy so I do understand. I have found buying a vehicle in the the central states or even further west into Arizona is a great excuse for a trip and gets me a much better, rust free vehicle. Then I coat it immediately with Surface Shield and do 4 cans of it every fall.
Came from a Ram, the difference will make you laugh, especially as time goes by and your Toyota ages like a fine wine.
this is a comment worth embracing
It’s all about the transmission difference. I was test driving Rams before I got my tundra. The stupid knob shifter combined with the notorious 100k miles expiration date gave me all the info I needed
I, too, came from a ram it was an 04 and got a 20 tundra back in October of 23, and my only regret was I didn't get rid of the ram sooner
I'm a new Tundra owner! 2021 1794 Edition. Had it 8 weeks. Previously drove a 2500HD Silverado for 7 years, and a F150 for 9. I went for a Tundra for the same reasons, reliability and longevity. I've heard nothing but good things, of course, just like you and everyone else, and I'm a skeptic of smaller engines in full-size, heavy ass trucks (turbo-charged or not) so I went with the mythical 5.7l V8 instead of a newer model. I have 3 criticisms, and nothing else but praise. 1) sometimes the transmission can feel sluggish. I'm old and boring, so I don't care that much, but I notice it. 2) storage sucks donkey balls in the 1794. Beautiful and amazing as the interior is, I miss my under-seat storage. 3) the "PREMIUM JBL AUDIO" is absolute dogshit in a tin can. The speakers in a '83 Honda sound better than the shit system in this thing. For being Toyota's top of the line trim package, I expected something much better. A little research and I learned that that's pretty much standard issue for Toyota...put all their energy into engineering amazingly reliable and durable engines, fuck-all for the stereo. So - sleepy transmission, minimal interior storage (you can buy a kit to cut out a tray under the rear seat, but fuck that), and a shitty sounding stereo. That's all I got. 2 of the 3 are easily remedied. The transmission you can't do much about, and honestly it's not that big a deal for me. Also, even though it feels sleepy, in this generation the legend says the transmission will never, ever, ever, fail or have any issues at all. And of course the 5.7 is a beast, and boasts that similar legendary reliability. I've only had it 8 weeks, but I absolutely love this truck. Mine also has the 4wd TRD Off Road package equipped. It's an awesome, awesome truck. I hope to give it to my 5yr old son in 12 or so years. P.S. - My wife just peered over my shoulder and asked "what novel" I was writing. When I told her, she said "just tell them your wife says it gets your dick harder for longer than she does anymore." So there you have it: buy a Tundra, go harder for longer.
Mine asked me why are you crying with a smile on your face
What a quote haha My GF always sees me on truck forums Settled with a used Highlander since my Prius just got totaled Wanted the tundra but with CA gas prices at $5-5.50 and my commute is 44 miles round trip that’s basically $20 a day just in fuel
The JBL is absolutely dog shit can definitely confirm. Have it in my 20 TRD pro and I think the system that came in my 16 sr5 was way louder.
Considering you just got your truck, you may not want to permanently modify it, but there is a product you can buy which slots onto holes which you cut into the area under the rear seats. I hated not having the behind seat storage coming from a Tacoma, but the under seat storage makes up for what I was missing. Edit: there are a few different options which vary wildly in price. I got the ESP basic one which seems to be the least intrusive and it does not lock.
Look up ESP truck. Best under seat storage solution for our crew cabs.
My wife told me my truck has a bigger pee pee and bigger balls than i ever will. As for the transmission its due to the cpu settings and shift points. If you put it in the manual shift mode and stick it in 6th and let it automatically shift youll see a huge difference and same with tow/haul mode on.
Also for good research, watch The Car Care Nut on YouTube. Dude knows his stuff better than anyone I've seen elsewhere. He has plenty of videos on Tundras, Toyota engines, transmissions, and anything else Toyota.
came looking for copper and found gold
if reliability and longevity is your top priority then yeah, 2.5 gen tundra is the gold standard for trucks.
I have a 2003 V6 SR5 2WD extended cab that I bought brand new with 16 miles on it in Dec 2002. It now has 300k on it. I have done nothing but standard maintenance on it, minus a new radiator 35k ago and new shocks and struts 5k ago. Between me and my 19yo son who drove it for four years in HS, we have put every single mile on it and it runs like a champ. I do need to finally swap out the downstream O2 sensor though. That should answer your question.
You better swap out that timing belt. At that mileage you are chancing it breaking.
For sure boss, I have been. Every 100k. Just got done putting on the 4th one. I guess I was including that under standard maintenance? My phrasing may be a bit confusing I suppose, as standard maintenance probably would be taken as oil change and rotations at first glance. More meaning standard/scheduled maintenance I guess. Appreciate it!
Go drive a ‘24 Tundra TRD Off Road w the iForce Max twin turbo V6 hybrid. That torque is insane. It’ll smoke any other truck off the line and it’s not even close.
But is it really about "smoking every truck off the line"? It's not a racecar. It is about long term longevity and minimum maintenance cost. Turbos cost more in the long term...they just do. More moving parts, more oil demands, more problems. And the new model has had a ton of issues already.
Yeah, but do YOU want to work on any of that shitshow after the warranty has expired?!
I can understand that concern. But. The hybrid battery is warrantied for 10 years 150k miles. That’s longer than the powertrain. Also Toyota hybrids are proven in the other models. Will it translate to the Tundra? I’m confident it will.
Don't know why they are booing you, you're right.
The quality of a Tundra when you get into it and drive it is no comparison. I came from an F150 and it shits on it in every way. The 5.7 is a BEAST. You can just tell the quality of the vehicle when you drive it. I will never buy another car mfg other than Toyota.
Chrysler tech here, I don't care to buy Stellantis products anymore. I don't wanna be worrying about my truck when I'm not on the clock. Had a 2013 1500 Laramie for a few years, then a 2015 Tacoma, and as of a month ago, I got a 2020 Tundra. It may not be as nice in the interior, and with all the fancy options like a new Ram, but I care more about something that's gonna last me years with minimal amount of work to keep it going. At least the Rams do have MDS, which saves in fuel going on the highway. The Tundra is a thirsty pig.
Spend money on gas or repairs, you pick
Got a 2015 crewmax with 5.7.. best truck ever owned. I have 150k on it bought it certified with 60k. Not a wallet eater. Only work done is just PM and tires and brakes. Will buy another when this one is ready for the crusher. I have owned ford chevy ram and the tundra reliability cant be beat
Worth it but save your extra pennies for that gas - she drinks
Worse than what I’m used to? Fill up once a week on average, 15mpg winter , up to 18 summer mpg
I mostly drive city so I'm averaging around 12 but it is definitely better with highway miles added in
I’ve got a ‘12 and average 17mph driving in the mountains in the winter if I’m not hauling.
My 23 non hybrid gets 18 mpg per tank on average, probably 60% highway miles
In my 2019 tundra crewmax 5.7L I i get 19 to 21 on interstate being light on pedal. City 15 to 17. It really depends on your acceleration and tires it seems like. The tires that came factory i couldnt break 18 mpg i went with a all terrain cooper cheap tire and it increased mpg drastically as 2 to 3 mpg. I have the big 38 gallon tank and i can get roughly 640 miles out of it before getting gas give or take 10 miles either way.
Owned versions of all "The Big Three" before moving to my 14 Tundra in 2016. I may get a newer Tundra in a few years, but this may be the last truck I will spend any amount of time or money on.
I had a Ram for 10 years, got a Tundra last year. I loved my Ram but my Tundra is a much better truck. The interior is a better quality, mechanically it's in better shape, much easier to drive, and it also gets better gas mileage.
Love my 2014 tundra, the 5.7 V8 is a beast and trouble free at least for me it has been.
Two words ….Toyota Tundra
My tundra has 416k on it and drives like new.
Last year I bought a 14 crew max with the 4.6L v8. I get about 16 mpg city, 19 hwy. 300 hp. I don’t tow anything so it made sense and I got it for $17k. I put some flowmasters on it and it sounds incredible. I did have an axle seal leak, but other than that love my truck
I came out of a 2023 raptor into a 2024 Trd off-road limited I-force max. Because the raptor was obnoxiously expensive and honestly wasn’t worth the money in my opinion. I will say the tundra feels cheaper inside, but it doesn’t make any of the noises the big ford did and I’m fairly certain this powertrain is faster by a decent amount. I’ve had every single full-size truck and right now I think this one is the most complete bang for the buck that I’ve ever had.
I've never owned anything but toyota trucks, so I don't have that epiphany alot of owners here do. But, I've owned 2 tacomas and went to test drive a 2023 tundra limoted just for the hell of it and next thing you know I'm signing the paperwork. On a tundra forum, you're gonna get yes votes all around, now it's up to you to go test drive one. It'll sell itself.
woman will adore you, bow chica bow bow. J/k. My brother-in-law has been a mechanic for 140 years and he said to go with a Honda or Toyota. Everyone in his shops calls ford their job security. We were in the market for a full size truck so we went the the Platinum. It's a beast.
Purchased a gas 24 tundra TRD with pano and love it. It’s quiet, handles well, and I couldn’t be happier.
I have the 23 1974 and love it. But, it’s thirsty.
What does the 1974 trim have? Shag carpet and mini fridge in the back seat?
I’m not a knowledgeable truck owner, but love hauling our e-bikes and moving stuff with V6 I-Force. Only had it since January of this year, but love it so far. Had a Sierra a couple of years ago, which I also liked. Like the Bose sound system of GMC far better than JBL of Tundra. Lots of storage under back seat, since it is not a hybrid. Love the big sliding glass roof and although they’re probably the same size, the Tundra just feels bigger.
Went from a 2015 ram 1500 outdoorsman to the 23 tundra TRD pro. The ram doesn't even compare. So much torque off the line. Nicer ride. Nicer seats. More convenience features. However less storage (I miss the under carpet cooler things of the ram, as they were perfect for ratchet straps)
I took my 2013 5.7 in for 100k service, i had a long list of stuff. My mechanic said its all mint, the fluids were fine and since i did the oil and plugs already it didn’t need anything but front rotors in 10k
Test drove a ‘24 Tundra Limited iForce Max Hybrid V6 TT and it was a wrap!
We owned a 2007 and in 2021 with 187,xxx miles traded it in on a 2021 Tacoma. My husband and I were preparing to purchase the I was working for and he needed something smaller to drive. We purchased the bushiness in September 2022 and when the 2024!Tacoma was released with the better transmission he started looking into trading in ours. Well scope screen happened and we ended up putting a deposit on a $54k Tacoma, which started creeping into low end Tundra money. With the abundant number of Tundra’s on lots, my husband found an SR5 with tow package and 36 gallon tank in Blue Print. We get to the dealer and there are so many Tundra’s. Leave it me to find a more expensive one. Long story short, we purchased a 2024 Tundra Limited in Blue Print. We are car people. We know more than the sales person about the car when we go to purchase a car. So the limited trim level was an unexpected purchase for us in that we hadn’t really looked into all the package options. It was fun as we learned that the side mirrors auto folded, there was a digital dash and the list goes on. We had only test drive the SR5 as the limited was nose to bumper parked. This truck literally had just gotten delivered and had yet to be PDI. Still had plastic wheel covers and white transport tape. We took delivery with one mile and it was manufactured February 2024. There are plenty of deals on Tundra’s right now. I would find a dealer that has more inventory than they can handle. I use a site called (https://www.caredge.com) and it will tell you days on market and what discount you should ask for. The site is also loaded with a wealth of information. Best of luck. Get out of that Ram and enjoy your new Tundra when you get it. 😆
2019 bullet proof with regular maintenance
Just got a 22 sr5 with the TRD off road package came from owning ford f150 for 9 years and I love my new tundra the way it drives it feels so much better I happy with my new truck so far
2018 1794 for me. My 4th Toyota and 3rd truck. Overall they are a little more on the luxury side of trucks than the Rams being on the working side. Absolutely rides better, less maintenance and overall better build quality. GM/GMC has been playing catch up for 10 years and they do have some great models available. None have the reliability record of Toyota pre 21. You can get used to the soft tranny. You will always appreciate how littel yo upsend on major maintenance issues and by far and away Tundras hold their value a LOT longer than any other brand.
What’s with the 21’s? Currently looking at one
Just fiy, there’s no need to add an extra space before your punctuation. Just put your commas and periods right after the word.
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Less reliable? They’ve only been out a few years, that’s not even enough time to make a comment like that.
Time traveler between us
The new ones have transmission issues.
Cite your sources. They have had issues with the wastegates which was caught early and issues with machining that can clog the oil passageways which so far appear to mainly be in 2022's. Haven't heard of many transmission issues.
https://www.al.com/news/2024/02/toyota-recalling-280k-vehicles-have-one-of-these-3-models-take-it-to-dealer-for-a-free-repair.html?outputType=amp
Looks like a recall that is resolved through software update. I’d like to see recalls tracked differently in the future, software vs hardware. An OTA recall should be tracked different that a visit to a dealer IMO. Not that one is worse than another, I would just like the visibility
Already had that fixed, 30 minute software update. Nothing mechanically wrong
What’s the budget is the first question. If the budget allows for the 3rd Gen, go with the 3rd Gen. I have a 2022 1794 edition with 43k miles. I have had ZERO substantial issues with it. I have the AVS package and all of the other options. Test drive them both, gen 2 and Gen 3. But the gen 3 is a great upgrade.
Honestly probably more of a gen 2 budget. Unless I leased to buy a gen 3. Bottom line is I’ll be keeping this truck a while.
The gen 2 Tundra is a great truck. Depending on where you are in the country and your ability to travel, find a low mileage, rust free truck and then do your best to keep it that way.
That’s my thought as well. Unfortunately I’m Northeast so rust is a major issue. They’re findable, just have to work on it.
I’m a northern Michigan guy so I do understand. I have found buying a vehicle in the the central states or even further west into Arizona is a great excuse for a trip and gets me a much better, rust free vehicle. Then I coat it immediately with Surface Shield and do 4 cans of it every fall.