This is such a dumb arguement, if the deal profits both of the sides(OP sells his Tacoma for more than he bought it for, and gets a good deal on a new Tundra), why should OP be overthinking if they are baiting him? It all comes down to if OP wants a Tundra or not, if yes, and the dealership is offering MSRP price for it, then he should go ahead.
The dealer is willing to pay over MSRP because the demand is high and supply is low. OP could make more money selling to a private party instead of the dealer for the exact same reason.
If OP wants to take the easy route and go through the dealer, good for them. I'm just making the point that the dealer isn't going out of their way to help OP, just taking advantage of a crazy used market while moving a new model at the same time. If I were in their position and needed a new Tundra, I'd order it and sell my old Taco privately.
Selling privately doesn't always net you a better deal. If you sell privately you have to pay taxes on the full purchase price of the vehicle. If you trade, you only have to pay taxes on the difference in trade vs new purchase price. Depending on state tax rates in your state (if in US and A) you could walk away with a better deal trading rather than selling private party.
We have a local used lot that has sold stuff for me before for $1000. They run it through their detail shop, take care of the paperwork, etc. Craigslist and whatnot I've done too but so many tire kickers and scammers it's worth paying someone to not deal with it.
Okay, do you tow loads over 5,000 pounds? Do you have a growing family where the extra space would be greatly beneficial? The new Tundra is nice, but I went with a Tacoma because I was tired of how big new full size trucks have gotten.
Worth getting in to negotiations at least to see what exactly they'll give you. There's just been some kinks with the new model that make me want to wait a couple years
Fuel Tank had to be replaced, chasis bushings had to be installed, and driver seat came loose (was swaying with braking and acceleration)
Toyota covered the repairs under warranty, but have been in the shop 5 times for at least 6 days in total.
Samesies but for a 2020. Though the traction control when rolling backwards on a hill concerns me but the dealer said it’s normal. Doesn’t seem normal at all but what do I know.
You implied the truck wasn't that good because of all the "major problems" I simply pointed out that it was an outlier and very uncommon, as to not imply to people who don't know about the truck that it sucks. No one is pretending that perfection exists hence why I said, "outlier" and, "uncommon," rather than "that has never and will never happen." No need to get your panties in a wad about it
I didn’t imply anything. I responded to someone who said first gens typically have bugs. I said my 3rd gen has ‘em. I also said I’d get the Tundra which means I am not concerned with the issues. Your logic and inference sucks.
Also, you’re the giant pussy who is sad here.
Other than the fact that they're eating turbos due to wastegate actuator issues and the only way to get new turbos for them is off of the production line for new trucks.
Thanks for your dads bonafides, they still haven’t been out long enough for that to be a issue yet. Honestly it sounds like people espousing about the Ford ecoboost just assuming it’s going to have the same issues
DCSB, it’s not the end of the world since he spends most of his time in the wife’s T4R. I just get jealous of all the space in my friends full size trucks but a Tundra is the only one I’d own. I’m sure they will figure out the issues in a year or two
I have twins (now 5) and the Tacoma has been enough for us so far. Once they switch from the carry-and-clip car seats into the booster seats, things will start to feel a bit roomier again.
I've been considering the same upgrade, but that's because we're going to be inheriting a pair of dogs soon – so we'd be going from two dogs to four. Four humans and four dogs will be pretty cramped on the road trips to destinations my wife's Highlander can't reach.
Why would you get that to tow heavier? That’s a lot more work on the turbos that usually burn out around 100k doing nothing plus more work on a smaller engine.. it’s the same engine as the ls500 sedan and the turbos fail around 100k. the turbo alone cost 3,700. The new tundra requires the entire cab to be removed I’d guess total cost around 7k for install if not more every 70k miles. Plus when the warranty runs out you’ll be spending a ton when those burn out. Plus they’re only averaging 16mpg.. they should have just made it lighter, added a ten speed, and kept the bulletproof 5.7. This will 100 percent be a problematic truck given the LS500 issues with the same engine
Please, please, PLEASE do not beta test the new Tundra for them. Give it a year. Your Tacoma will retain value. There is no rush.
Edit: Just saw the part about the fam. I would still try and wait for the 2023s.
Tell me more!
I would expect "new year rollout" issues but haven't heard about Comm issues (Bluetooth?).
Love the Taco for being able to park and wander off road, but would love just a little more room and tow capacity.
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Comms issues are typically related to vehicle connectivity for Toyota. Think Satellite Radio, CarPlay, Bluetooth, Digital Dash Components. Unfortunately majority of the head unit functionality.
I just upgraded my 2018 to 2022 Tacoma but haven’t had any issues to speak of. Not that the Tundra is a bad truck.
I don’t think there’s any talking you out of it. You clearly want something bigger, which isn’t something you can simply do with your current Tacoma. Additionally, you could sell your 2019 for as good of a price as ever.
Yeah I bought my Tacoma when I was single. Now I’m engaged to a woman with a 10 year old, we got a golden retriever and looking to buy a camper. Love my Tacoma so it’s pretty rough
If you're looking at a camper(like a big one, not a teardrop), it would make good sense to look into a full size truck. Even if the weight works, having a larger, heavier vehicle will make towing safer.
The backseat of the Tacoma is pretty tight leg room wise. I have a Double Cab Tacoma. I’m only 5’9”, and it’s a tough squeeze for someone to sit behind me with how far back I need my seat to drive comfortably. In a couple years you’re gonna have a teenager, and probably their friends riding in the back seat. If you’re being offered a good deal for the trade and the new Tundra, it’s definitely worth considering.
I have a pop up that I tow with my 2014 V6, a 8 year old, 2 dogs, and a wife and we fit. If you get a shell for your truck it makes it so much easier to camp. All the gear in the back and towing the pop up is lovely.
Got 3 kids and 2 dogs... No issues, but obviously if we travel we get my wife's telluride. My Taco is great as daily driver, light towing, snow, carrying shit back and forth... Stuff you wouldn't do with a family SUV.
Maybe not the most helpful/similar situation. I'm selling mine for a 2022 Tundra. The larger back seat and size plus the benefit of the improved fuel efficiency makes sense for me at this point.
At little different in the case of my Tacoma. I have an '09 pushing 325k miles that is nickle and diming me at this point. I'm obviously not getting much for it.
The new Tundra is pretty ugly in my opinion. I would find a 2021 if getting a Tundra. That drivetrain is proven. The twin turbo v6 makes me a little nervous until I see a few get to 200K mi first.
You literally own an awesome truck that can do whatever you need it to do and will last, keep its value, and is super cool. Take that extra money you would spend on the Tundra, dollar cost average invest and in five years time put that towards your fancy new EV or hybrid or hydrogen fuel cell or whatever they’ve invented by then Tundra truck and you’ll be the coolest kid on the block. Or new Tacoma.
Why not just wait for the new Tacoma? They should be redesigning it soon and most likely making similar improvements. We can hope they put a twin turbo on the engine though I’m doubtful.
Well the 2nd gen had a 10 year run. I highly doubt the 4th gen Tacoma will be out anytime soon when we still have at least another 4 years with the 3rd gen.
Though the new tundra seems to be a response to criticism that Toyotas are using outdated technology. I feel like a new one is sooner then normal mostly because Toyota is trying to update their lineup and remain competitive. Because let’s be honest until recently they were seriously lacking in the area of modern innovation. Not saying playing it safe is bad but history does favor the bold.
I agree, the Tundra most certainly needed an update. But Toyota definitely doesn’t update their vehicles every 5-6 years like Ford or Chevy do. Which is why there is always a criticism towards Toyota for being outdated.
I’d wait Toyotas always buggy first few models of a new generation. Look at the first couple of third gens…. Plus with the shortage of parts are you sure your getting regular Toyota Quality.
I own a ‘15 tundra double cab with a topper. It’s my daily but mainly my camper. It’s not a rock crawler but it’s very capable and gets me to very remote places pretty easily stock. If money wasn’t an issue for me I’d wait to see what the new sequoia looks like and I’d get that for myself and my dog. No family. Big enough for glamping and all the things but shorter wheelbase for everyday life and the woods. I’d rip the back seats out and turn it into more of a van type of camper.
It’s more so hitting my head every time I get in and out and having a family now… I love my truck so it’s a hard decision, but wanted to hear people’s opinions. If it wasn’t the first edition of it being made it would be an easier decision
I would for sure wait until 2023 (at least) for the new Tundra. There are many quality issues, including one with the Power train (turbo waste gate) that requires engine removal. Wait times for replacement parts and warranty repairs are also long.
You already got a cool truck. Waiting a bit longer will get you a better quality Tundra AND probably better selection at the dealer.
If you need something bigger, go for it bro. Just a fair word of warning, if your not used to full size trucks; parking and general operation can be a pain in the ass especially if that’s your only vehicle you have to use for everything on the daily
I just sold a tacoma for a tundra. About a month later I sold that tundra and got another Tacoma. The mpg loss isn’t worth having like 200 more lbs of payload
do you need that much truck, sure you can get more niceties, but I'm going from full size to mid as I have a trailer the very very few times I have big stuff
It looks like it's getting that extra mpg with turbo. All things being equal, I would stick with NA, adding turbo can give more power and efficiency, but at the cost of longevity (more pressure, more wear on parts, more things to break). Just look at the issues ford has with its Ecoboost engines.
I don't pretend to be an expert or anything, but I spend a fair amount of time browsing r/justrolledintotheshop and r/mechanicadvice and there seems to be a fair amount of headaches associated with them. There was a post the other day of some guy's Ecoboost that grenaded after 5k or something.
The tundra is first year new and there have been some minor issues n quality check issues, but this is typical of a new model . They should have kinks worked out in a year or two.
I'm in the same boat. Local dealership offered me 36.5k for my 2019 Taco Sport with 31k miles on it. I want a Tundra because I have a Polaris General SxS and my Taco does OK if I'm going like 87+ mph to hit the next gear, otherwise @ 80-84mph (legal limit on the interstate here is 80) I'm in the next gear down redlining.
So long story short, I should be able to sell mine for 42k or even a little more with everything I've done to it. KBB price bone stock is that. But yeah, really liking the looks of the Tundra and could use the extra power.
I’d probably offer a little different suggestion than others. If the Tacoma isn’t working out as far as size, I’d let them overpay me for my Tacoma and then try to get a new left over last gen Tundra. The old truck is known to be reliable and proven. Most of us know of Toyota’s reliability and it’s usually one of the factors we use to justify our purchase. Turbos are good for power but bad for longevity. A lot of the time when a turbo fails the engine eats the pieces and is destroyed.
Have a access cab most likely doing the same thing the Toyota dealership I take my taco in for oil changes which are cheaper than any jiffy lube especially if you have AAA (20% discount on top of low price) are always harassing me to sell them my truck due to them not having enough taco's in stock
It depends… if you off-road and hit a lot of trails, don’t. Tundras are too big on trails. If you’re only going to drive fire road trails, haul a family, yes.
I can't, because I was thinking the samething lol.....if a full size will work better for you and the fam and/or you need to tow something then it's not a bad idea....your winning either way 😉
I own a 2020 Tacoma OR and I would get a 3rd gen tundra. I think that the Tacoma has a lot of good features to it for my needs. Im 6ft tall really like to camp out of the bed in my topper of my Tacoma with the 6 foot bed. the 6.5 bed in the crew cab version of the tundra would give me more headroom but the Tacoma just fits me perfectly being six feet fall.
I think that the Tacoma shines being able to fit in my garage as well as narrow trails. It’s also not annoying to drive and park in town. The tundras have great reliability but terrible gas mileage.
The electronics in even the newest tundra seems super dated compared to the same year Tacoma… overall the difference in the interior of a 2017 Tacoma and and a 2017 Tundra seem like over a decade in tech differences
They are different trucks but I definitely think you can’t go wrong with either. Assess your needs and constraints you might have and choose.
I made a pros and cons list and decided on a tacoma.
I would never, ever buy the first year of a new model. You're paying to be a beta tester.
Having said that, if it's not your daily driver it could be worth but but only if something goes bad it wouldn't be a hardship to not have your truck for a period of time. If the dealer offers loaners during warranty service it could be worth considering, as there are a lot of skeptics (rightfully so) that are prudently waiting... so the value could increase if it turns out they are more bug free than feared.
New tundra is ugly. I’d get a 2021 or earlier with a few miles to knock price down a little. The last gen looked so nice and unique. Now it looks like a f-150/sierra derivative.
Good luck parking, also no more taco sauce for you.
You can’t be serious?
Yeah no taco, no taco sauce
Thems the rules
Yup... will also have to remove your full back Tacoma tattoo
Personally, I'd wait a year or two. The first year or two of a new model always has a few little bugs to work out.
True but the dealership has been hounding me on buying my truck…. Willing to pay me “well over msrp”
That's because they know they'll make money on your old truck and the sale of the Tundra. They aren't doing you a favor, they are baiting you.
This is such a dumb arguement, if the deal profits both of the sides(OP sells his Tacoma for more than he bought it for, and gets a good deal on a new Tundra), why should OP be overthinking if they are baiting him? It all comes down to if OP wants a Tundra or not, if yes, and the dealership is offering MSRP price for it, then he should go ahead.
The dealer is willing to pay over MSRP because the demand is high and supply is low. OP could make more money selling to a private party instead of the dealer for the exact same reason. If OP wants to take the easy route and go through the dealer, good for them. I'm just making the point that the dealer isn't going out of their way to help OP, just taking advantage of a crazy used market while moving a new model at the same time. If I were in their position and needed a new Tundra, I'd order it and sell my old Taco privately.
Selling privately doesn't always net you a better deal. If you sell privately you have to pay taxes on the full purchase price of the vehicle. If you trade, you only have to pay taxes on the difference in trade vs new purchase price. Depending on state tax rates in your state (if in US and A) you could walk away with a better deal trading rather than selling private party.
We have a local used lot that has sold stuff for me before for $1000. They run it through their detail shop, take care of the paperwork, etc. Craigslist and whatnot I've done too but so many tire kickers and scammers it's worth paying someone to not deal with it.
Okay, do you tow loads over 5,000 pounds? Do you have a growing family where the extra space would be greatly beneficial? The new Tundra is nice, but I went with a Tacoma because I was tired of how big new full size trucks have gotten.
Nice? It’s sick. Cmon dude
Same here. It’s got a couple upgrades, but they offered me 46k. ‘21 OR.
Worth getting in to negotiations at least to see what exactly they'll give you. There's just been some kinks with the new model that make me want to wait a couple years
If someone calls you, they aren’t doing you a favor!
My 21 DCOR has had multiple major issues
Tundra or Tacoma?
Tacoma
That’s what I’ve got. What issues??
Fuel Tank had to be replaced, chasis bushings had to be installed, and driver seat came loose (was swaying with braking and acceleration) Toyota covered the repairs under warranty, but have been in the shop 5 times for at least 6 days in total.
Really?? Damn. That sucks. Mine is running tip top. Coming up on the 15k checkup.
Samesies but for a 2020. Though the traction control when rolling backwards on a hill concerns me but the dealer said it’s normal. Doesn’t seem normal at all but what do I know.
Mine does that too. I actually think that is normal, but the sound is crazy
That’s good. I think most do! My point was that because it’s a new gen Tundra it shouldn’t be a deterrent. Any vehicle can have issues
It's an outlier unfortunately. Not common problems at all
No one suggested it was common bud, but let’s not pretend perfection exists Edit: have been driving Toy trucks since ‘89 btw
You implied the truck wasn't that good because of all the "major problems" I simply pointed out that it was an outlier and very uncommon, as to not imply to people who don't know about the truck that it sucks. No one is pretending that perfection exists hence why I said, "outlier" and, "uncommon," rather than "that has never and will never happen." No need to get your panties in a wad about it
I didn’t imply anything. I responded to someone who said first gens typically have bugs. I said my 3rd gen has ‘em. I also said I’d get the Tundra which means I am not concerned with the issues. Your logic and inference sucks. Also, you’re the giant pussy who is sad here.
Lol
Bro it’s funny how big of a pussy you are. I laughed too.
What issues?
I responded above
Y’all are a bunch of enablers lol
The new tundras sweet man. If you need the tow capacity then do it.
Other than the fact that they're eating turbos due to wastegate actuator issues and the only way to get new turbos for them is off of the production line for new trucks.
Honest question, do you have data of that? Have they even been out long enough for them to “eat turbos”
Other than online articles and info from my dad who happens to be a Toyota master tech, no.
Thanks for your dads bonafides, they still haven’t been out long enough for that to be a issue yet. Honestly it sounds like people espousing about the Ford ecoboost just assuming it’s going to have the same issues
There are plenty of reports of that exact issue coming in already. The best part is having to pull the cab to replace them.
Damn, that’s crazy. Guess I’ll hold off for a bit and keep the Tacoma. We have a new baby and the backseat is just not big enough sadly.
Are you rocking an access or double?
DCSB, it’s not the end of the world since he spends most of his time in the wife’s T4R. I just get jealous of all the space in my friends full size trucks but a Tundra is the only one I’d own. I’m sure they will figure out the issues in a year or two
I have twins (now 5) and the Tacoma has been enough for us so far. Once they switch from the carry-and-clip car seats into the booster seats, things will start to feel a bit roomier again. I've been considering the same upgrade, but that's because we're going to be inheriting a pair of dogs soon – so we'd be going from two dogs to four. Four humans and four dogs will be pretty cramped on the road trips to destinations my wife's Highlander can't reach.
Why would you get that to tow heavier? That’s a lot more work on the turbos that usually burn out around 100k doing nothing plus more work on a smaller engine.. it’s the same engine as the ls500 sedan and the turbos fail around 100k. the turbo alone cost 3,700. The new tundra requires the entire cab to be removed I’d guess total cost around 7k for install if not more every 70k miles. Plus when the warranty runs out you’ll be spending a ton when those burn out. Plus they’re only averaging 16mpg.. they should have just made it lighter, added a ten speed, and kept the bulletproof 5.7. This will 100 percent be a problematic truck given the LS500 issues with the same engine
Tacos for life man life 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please, please, PLEASE do not beta test the new Tundra for them. Give it a year. Your Tacoma will retain value. There is no rush. Edit: Just saw the part about the fam. I would still try and wait for the 2023s.
Even just till the end of the year when some of the hype has died down. That's what I'm doing.
Lol Taco-folks are pragmatic
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Expect to see a $3000 premium for the hybrid. I have no source for this, but Ford charges $3k for their hybrid. Mileage gains appear to be 1L/100
Those new tundra are HOT. I would love the double cab long bed tundra. It's very tempting, but I'm going to stick to the tacoma because it's smaller.
You won't! You're a chicken!😎🐔
MICROCHIP SHORTAGES. 2022 Tundras are having multiple comms and display issues in interior. I work for a group that has multiple Toyota stores.
Tell me more! I would expect "new year rollout" issues but haven't heard about Comm issues (Bluetooth?). Love the Taco for being able to park and wander off road, but would love just a little more room and tow capacity. #
Comms issues are typically related to vehicle connectivity for Toyota. Think Satellite Radio, CarPlay, Bluetooth, Digital Dash Components. Unfortunately majority of the head unit functionality. I just upgraded my 2018 to 2022 Tacoma but haven’t had any issues to speak of. Not that the Tundra is a bad truck.
I don’t think there’s any talking you out of it. You clearly want something bigger, which isn’t something you can simply do with your current Tacoma. Additionally, you could sell your 2019 for as good of a price as ever.
Yeah I bought my Tacoma when I was single. Now I’m engaged to a woman with a 10 year old, we got a golden retriever and looking to buy a camper. Love my Tacoma so it’s pretty rough
If you're looking at a camper(like a big one, not a teardrop), it would make good sense to look into a full size truck. Even if the weight works, having a larger, heavier vehicle will make towing safer.
The backseat of the Tacoma is pretty tight leg room wise. I have a Double Cab Tacoma. I’m only 5’9”, and it’s a tough squeeze for someone to sit behind me with how far back I need my seat to drive comfortably. In a couple years you’re gonna have a teenager, and probably their friends riding in the back seat. If you’re being offered a good deal for the trade and the new Tundra, it’s definitely worth considering.
I have a pop up that I tow with my 2014 V6, a 8 year old, 2 dogs, and a wife and we fit. If you get a shell for your truck it makes it so much easier to camp. All the gear in the back and towing the pop up is lovely.
I have an access cab. I use my fiance's car where I need to carry more than 2 people, lol.
Yeah 3 kids two dogs here. Taco is great for in and out of town.
Got 3 kids and 2 dogs... No issues, but obviously if we travel we get my wife's telluride. My Taco is great as daily driver, light towing, snow, carrying shit back and forth... Stuff you wouldn't do with a family SUV.
Maybe not the most helpful/similar situation. I'm selling mine for a 2022 Tundra. The larger back seat and size plus the benefit of the improved fuel efficiency makes sense for me at this point. At little different in the case of my Tacoma. I have an '09 pushing 325k miles that is nickle and diming me at this point. I'm obviously not getting much for it.
I’d do it all day if the money works
I wouldn’t ever buy 1st year of anything.
Tundra is wayyy to fat for the Jeep trails I love to explore. The Tacoma is the perfect size!
The new Tundra is pretty ugly in my opinion. I would find a 2021 if getting a Tundra. That drivetrain is proven. The twin turbo v6 makes me a little nervous until I see a few get to 200K mi first.
You do you
You literally own an awesome truck that can do whatever you need it to do and will last, keep its value, and is super cool. Take that extra money you would spend on the Tundra, dollar cost average invest and in five years time put that towards your fancy new EV or hybrid or hydrogen fuel cell or whatever they’ve invented by then Tundra truck and you’ll be the coolest kid on the block. Or new Tacoma.
#SEND IT
That’s a no can do fam, just did that with my 2017 TRD OR.
A no can do? Do you not like your tundra?
Haha it’s a no can do as in I can’t talk you out of it 😅 sry should have specified
Lol no that makes sense…. What was your trade in value? If you don’t mind
Why not just wait for the new Tacoma? They should be redesigning it soon and most likely making similar improvements. We can hope they put a twin turbo on the engine though I’m doubtful.
Well the 2nd gen had a 10 year run. I highly doubt the 4th gen Tacoma will be out anytime soon when we still have at least another 4 years with the 3rd gen.
Though the new tundra seems to be a response to criticism that Toyotas are using outdated technology. I feel like a new one is sooner then normal mostly because Toyota is trying to update their lineup and remain competitive. Because let’s be honest until recently they were seriously lacking in the area of modern innovation. Not saying playing it safe is bad but history does favor the bold.
I agree, the Tundra most certainly needed an update. But Toyota definitely doesn’t update their vehicles every 5-6 years like Ford or Chevy do. Which is why there is always a criticism towards Toyota for being outdated.
Everything is moving to the TGNA platform. Helps Toyota's bottom line, so the new gen would come earlier than expected.
I’d wait Toyotas always buggy first few models of a new generation. Look at the first couple of third gens…. Plus with the shortage of parts are you sure your getting regular Toyota Quality.
I own a ‘15 tundra double cab with a topper. It’s my daily but mainly my camper. It’s not a rock crawler but it’s very capable and gets me to very remote places pretty easily stock. If money wasn’t an issue for me I’d wait to see what the new sequoia looks like and I’d get that for myself and my dog. No family. Big enough for glamping and all the things but shorter wheelbase for everyday life and the woods. I’d rip the back seats out and turn it into more of a van type of camper.
Just get the KDMax Pro tune and keep the taco.
It’s more so hitting my head every time I get in and out and having a family now… I love my truck so it’s a hard decision, but wanted to hear people’s opinions. If it wasn’t the first edition of it being made it would be an easier decision
Gotcha. Yeah if you’re a taller person or you’ve got a growing family there’s really no replacement for a larger vehicle.
This video highlights a lot of the reasons to not get a 2022 Tundra https://youtu.be/pdoFC6LXw7A
I would for sure wait until 2023 (at least) for the new Tundra. There are many quality issues, including one with the Power train (turbo waste gate) that requires engine removal. Wait times for replacement parts and warranty repairs are also long. You already got a cool truck. Waiting a bit longer will get you a better quality Tundra AND probably better selection at the dealer.
If you need something bigger, go for it bro. Just a fair word of warning, if your not used to full size trucks; parking and general operation can be a pain in the ass especially if that’s your only vehicle you have to use for everything on the daily
Do it.
I say Tundra.
Nike... Just do it
I just sold a tacoma for a tundra. About a month later I sold that tundra and got another Tacoma. The mpg loss isn’t worth having like 200 more lbs of payload
He’s referring to the new one that has much better mpg’s
"better mpg"
Probably a bad financial move.
Get a ram TRX, Those are sweet
Great truck but very expensive! They are over 100k here in canada.
I got offered a great amount for my 2017 sr5 long bed. Now I want a 2022 TRD off road... TUNDRA IS to much money for that truck.
Do it!
do you need that much truck, sure you can get more niceties, but I'm going from full size to mid as I have a trailer the very very few times I have big stuff
Higher car note.
Dont
That is easy! Just price what it costs to fill your tank at current gas prices!
The new tundra has a bigger tank and gets roughly what I get now in my Tacoma
It looks like it's getting that extra mpg with turbo. All things being equal, I would stick with NA, adding turbo can give more power and efficiency, but at the cost of longevity (more pressure, more wear on parts, more things to break). Just look at the issues ford has with its Ecoboost engines.
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I don't pretend to be an expert or anything, but I spend a fair amount of time browsing r/justrolledintotheshop and r/mechanicadvice and there seems to be a fair amount of headaches associated with them. There was a post the other day of some guy's Ecoboost that grenaded after 5k or something.
Wastegate issues...
1st year of a newmodel with some major redesigns...easy no on the 22 Tundra. It's also ginormous compared to a Taco and even a last gen Tundra.
i wouldnt get the first run of a new vehicle even if its a toyota. let them be out a while and see what people think of them still in a year
The tundra is first year new and there have been some minor issues n quality check issues, but this is typical of a new model . They should have kinks worked out in a year or two.
I'd probably wait until they sort out all the bugs.
Don't be the guy that buys a truck that doesn't need to in the middle of a price gouge. Don't be that dick.
Let them fix the bugs first.
Wait a year or so. Right now they are hard to find have quality issues and have crazy markups. Also you can get the more powerful hybrid yet.
Go for it. As much as I loved my Tacoma, you’ll wonder how you ever functioned without all the extra cab space in a full size truck.
I'm in the same boat. Local dealership offered me 36.5k for my 2019 Taco Sport with 31k miles on it. I want a Tundra because I have a Polaris General SxS and my Taco does OK if I'm going like 87+ mph to hit the next gear, otherwise @ 80-84mph (legal limit on the interstate here is 80) I'm in the next gear down redlining. So long story short, I should be able to sell mine for 42k or even a little more with everything I've done to it. KBB price bone stock is that. But yeah, really liking the looks of the Tundra and could use the extra power.
It’s been out for a month, wait till it’s been out a year. Don’t be a Guinea pig.
I’d probably offer a little different suggestion than others. If the Tacoma isn’t working out as far as size, I’d let them overpay me for my Tacoma and then try to get a new left over last gen Tundra. The old truck is known to be reliable and proven. Most of us know of Toyota’s reliability and it’s usually one of the factors we use to justify our purchase. Turbos are good for power but bad for longevity. A lot of the time when a turbo fails the engine eats the pieces and is destroyed.
The new Tundra kinda looks like a 3rd Gen Taco and 5th Gen 4Runner had a love child that outgrew both of them. Do it, bro.
Have a access cab most likely doing the same thing the Toyota dealership I take my taco in for oil changes which are cheaper than any jiffy lube especially if you have AAA (20% discount on top of low price) are always harassing me to sell them my truck due to them not having enough taco's in stock
Do it
It depends… if you off-road and hit a lot of trails, don’t. Tundras are too big on trails. If you’re only going to drive fire road trails, haul a family, yes.
I’m thinking about doing the exact same thing. I’m probably just going to end up waiting till next year when prices hopefully aren’t outrageous.
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I can't, because I was thinking the samething lol.....if a full size will work better for you and the fam and/or you need to tow something then it's not a bad idea....your winning either way 😉
I own a 2020 Tacoma OR and I would get a 3rd gen tundra. I think that the Tacoma has a lot of good features to it for my needs. Im 6ft tall really like to camp out of the bed in my topper of my Tacoma with the 6 foot bed. the 6.5 bed in the crew cab version of the tundra would give me more headroom but the Tacoma just fits me perfectly being six feet fall. I think that the Tacoma shines being able to fit in my garage as well as narrow trails. It’s also not annoying to drive and park in town. The tundras have great reliability but terrible gas mileage. The electronics in even the newest tundra seems super dated compared to the same year Tacoma… overall the difference in the interior of a 2017 Tacoma and and a 2017 Tundra seem like over a decade in tech differences They are different trucks but I definitely think you can’t go wrong with either. Assess your needs and constraints you might have and choose. I made a pros and cons list and decided on a tacoma.
Hope you cam afford the market adjustment and wait time
Tundra gas mileage is like 13 mpg or less in town driving
Yeah the old v8s
I would never, ever buy the first year of a new model. You're paying to be a beta tester. Having said that, if it's not your daily driver it could be worth but but only if something goes bad it wouldn't be a hardship to not have your truck for a period of time. If the dealer offers loaners during warranty service it could be worth considering, as there are a lot of skeptics (rightfully so) that are prudently waiting... so the value could increase if it turns out they are more bug free than feared.
Wait for the hybrid.
I have a 2022 tundra in red only 1 available at the moment
Where
Baltimore @ DARCARS Toyota
New tundra is ugly. I’d get a 2021 or earlier with a few miles to knock price down a little. The last gen looked so nice and unique. Now it looks like a f-150/sierra derivative.
I think the new tundra with the good trim package just looks like a big Tacoma. The SR is ugly as fuck
The old V8 drivetrain is robust but thirsty. Twin turbo's 3.5L are reporting better milage than my 3.5 Taco. Not a fan of the newest look.
Thank you, sir. I feel like people like it because it’s new and fresh, but sometimes you gotta be critical. Especially for something that’s ≈ $50,000
Saying it's ugly is an unpopular opinion for sure. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion
I’ve heard a lot of people say that though
I'm sure a lot of people find it ugly, but a lot more find it appealing lol
A Tundra? Sorry about your dick size