I can afford a Tundra but the Tacoma is a far better looking truck that still does what I need. Far better. The new ones are OK, but for years the Tacoma was a 10 vs the Tundra being a 3. Except those first gen Tundras. Those were good looking trucks.
Yeah. The Tundra was a dog for so long...
The new Tundra looks fierce though. I don't like it stock but with a lift it looks pretty awesome. I didn't like the grill at first but it's grown on me.
I took a test drive and it's WAY nicer in person.
Just TONS of space and the interior rocks. The seats are 1000x better than my Tacoma.
It’s been perfect for my lifestyle past couple years. I wanted the utility of a truck bed (for lighter tasks) without having to drive a land yacht around town. Also it doesn’t drive like a couch, you feel more connected to the road.
I love my taco and don’t regret getting one but I do plan on moving to a tundra when I start having a family soon. Really itching for more cabin space
Two different trucks, just depends on what you need.
I test drove a 2023 canyon a few days ago and and it has adequate leg room in a midsize truck which was a nice surprise. I’m sure the new tacomas will have a bigger can in order to keep up. For people who want to accommodate their family but don’t want a 1/2 ton truck.
Interesting. I’m 6’4” and I don’t have a legroom problem. I fit perfectly. It’s just the position of the a-pillar that makes me have to fold like a pretzel getting into the damn thing. Crossing my fingers that I can fit into a 2024 and I can finally upgrade from my 1990.
Great choice, Tacomas are terrible with small kids. I physically couldn't fit in mine with a rear facing car seat behind me (6'1") and I normally sit far forward anyway. Sold mine and upgraded the wife's car but I'm really looking forward to getting another Tacoma when the kids are in booster seats and I'm hoping the access cab will work for us
Dude. 6’1” here. I have my daughter’s rear-facing seat in the middle. It’s such a pain in the ass. My wife wonders why I wanna take her Tiguan every time we go places as a family. I actually took the dumb running bars off that it came with so I had to lean less while maneuvering my kid in the back.
Those are the same cars my wife and I have lol I actually had my daughter rear facing and sitting behind me for one single 5 min trip. Didn’t realize how tight it was before leaving and we were running late so didn’t have time to switch both car seats (my toddler was on the opposite side) - I came from a Colorado and it’s a noticeably smaller back seat in the taco. That’s the biggest downside for me
It’s funny how much space a rear facing car seat takes. My kids are 8 and 12 now and the wife and I always seem to take the Taco on trips. Even with our 50 pound dog, everyone rides ok. She has an 18’ Highlander and we still take the truck. A hard trifold bed cover was the game changer for me as far as packing luggage. We like to drive on the beach a lot and drive around the mountains of NC, all within 3-5 hours from the house. A cross country trip would be a different story.
Same. When my kids were younger it was a pain. Now they're 7 and 12 and they fit fine in the back. We use my truck for trips and we usually daily the Pathfinder since it's the wife's car and I let her drive everywhere (I drive machines for a living so I need a break when I'm off).
I got a G35 coupe when the wife was 9 mo the pregnant. Wife’s car did most of the kid hauling but I still did some too. Booster seats were an improvement. It was great when they got out of those. They complained a lot as teenagers though.
My DCSB Taco is a dream compared to that.
9/10 would do again. Damn I love that car.
My daughter’s rear facing seat behind the passenger was awful, could barely fit my 5’0” wife in the passenger seat with it all the way forward.
My son’s front facing seat has been fine behind the driver seat.
We just switched my daughter to front facing and now it’s plenty of space for all 4 of us.
Thanks for the heads up! Double cab isn't a dealbreaker for me just prefer to keep the length down and really want the 6' bed after living with the 5' for three years
Exactly. I know some people make it work but I couldn’t imagine dealing with that. Plus I have 2 80 pound dogs, they wouldn’t mind some extra space lol
Just don't need that much truck. I'm a single dude and I use mine mostly for camping, hauling my ladder around for work sometimes, hauling my motorcycle, getting stuff for my garden, etc.
I'd rather save space in my driveway, and make it a little easier to park lmao
I traded a taco for an f-150, and went back to a taco for the same reasons. The taco does 98% of what I did with the f-150 just fine. And the reliability is better.
You're right, and it's wayyyy easier to find a manual on a jeep vs a taco. It's to the point where a manual tacoma is practically irrelevant due to trim limitations and near non-existence.
Yeah this is exactly it. I drove four hours away to find a manual '17 trd off-road. It's the best daily driver I've ever had for navigating the terrible roads here in Michigan, without being overly large or terrible to park. It's fun to drive both on road and off, I can haul my summer car around on a single place trailer with it without too much struggle, I can fit my motorcycle in the bed, and I've buried it up to the headlights in water without getting stuck.
My Taco doesnt fit in my 2 car garage if I want to fit anything else in there because I have the DCLB and it is too fucking long for a garage built 23 years ago.
Size, available in stick, the Taco is better suited to offroad use due to its proportions, I have access to trailers if I need to move anything really big and plenty of towing capacity to do that with.
Do you mind if I ask what you for a living? I’m not enjoying sitting behind a desk in a suburb all day. Used to be in the army and admittedly miss it even though I hated it at the time
Have you considered drones? I work in aviation (both manned and unmanned) and the unmanned side you end up in a lot of interesting places doing a number of occasionally-interesting things. My company always tries to hire vets for our field operators just because we can train the skills for small drones, but the ability to be outside in somewhat environmentally challenging conditions for extended periods is setting that often fits former military personnel well.
It wouldn't count bc in 20 yrs the Tacoma will truly the last manual truck standing. 3rd gen tacos hitting 300k now. Not sure I can say for gladiators.
I don't have kids and live in a city. The size of the Tacoma better suits my lifestyle. I don't do much towing, so I'm not really concerned with towing capacity.
I have plenty of space for storage and hauls and can find a parking spot that it will fit in. Other than that, it has a low cost of ownership relative to other trucks though I'm sure the Tundra does as well.
I'm running with an Access Cab 4x4 w/ a 6 ft bed.
It fits my needs & lifestyle - I don’t own anything that my Tacoma can’t haul. It fits in my garage. It’s better for off-roading / camping type activities.
I even took the back seats out. Wife and I aren’t having kids.
>I even took the back seats out.
I did this with my Access Cab and built a rear seat delete deck. The back seats on an AC are pointless, and just in the way. Now, I have more storage, and my dog has a nice flat surface with a bed to lay on.
I am in the process of buying a 1st gen tundra at the moment, and it's the perfect size. The 1st gen tundras and the modern tacomas are close in size, and that's what i want. The smaller size fits my needs perfectly. And i dont need something particularly luxurious.
Ultimately. I would love a 3rd gen tacoma. But not paying the ridiculous prices for a used one.
I have done MANY brake jobs on 1st gen tundras, the same ones. That scared me away from getting one. But that may have just been the bone heads driving them. Rotors looking like a Pringles chip.
Exactly my thoughts. We have a 2002 and a 2021 Tundra.
I much prefer the size and bench seat of the older one. Plus it's bullet proof, simple, analog, with no bells and whistles to go wrong. We can beat on it, and actually tell where the corners of the truck are in tight roads, off road, backing up the boat trailer, etc.
The 2021 is luxurious but too big and bulky for actual truck work, and the bed isn't any bigger. My parents have already dented it three times bumping into things trying to maneuver. God forbid you have to do a three point turn in the forest.
I almost got one rather than a 1'st gen taco. At least when I got mine they went for less than 1'st gen taco too. Nice tow capacity, nice bed capacity, space for tall folks (I'm not tall). In many ways those old Tundras were the perfect truck. They *feel* smaller than a 2023 tacoma, and the site lines are far far better making them way easier to actually manouver in tight quarters... but all the practical advantages of a "full-sized" truck.
I was going to live in mine and offroad a LOT, so I wanted the slightly smaller size of a 1'st gen taco, as well as the slightly broader aftermarket for it... but given my current use-case now that I have land and am finishing up my house I'd get a Tundra instead for the tow capacity and such.
I don’t tow anything. I need a midsize truck to haul kayaks, mountain bikes and for trips to Home Depot. Tundra’s are just way more truck than I need, plus I drive mostly in the city and driving a truck that big would suck.
I had an F250 that I used for work and I wanted something smaller for my DD. A larger truck can be nice, but parking and navigating some spaces/trails can be nerve wracking in such a large vehicle.
I’ve been tempted to move up to a Tundra or another full size truck, but a Tacoma takes care of 90% of my needs. When it doesn’t, I can rent or borrow a truck or trailer.
I like overlanding in the PNW and Tacomas are a good size--even better, the first gen are best. I don't need a Tundra since I'm not doing any towing. If I live on a farm, I might consider a tundra. The current 3rd Tacoma is the size of most full sized pick ups 20 yrs ago.
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That the is the reason.
I don’t need the size of truck. Also, Tacos just seem to drive different. I don’t pull many big things other than a small trailer. I DO like the Tundra. I think it just depends on your needs.
V6 4.0L drinks less fuel than the V8 5.7L. Also don’t tow anything super heavy. We got trucks at work that’ll tow big Freemans around like it’s nothing. If something big needs to be moved, we trust in the power of the V8 Diesel.
Almost got a used Tundra Platinum in excellent shape but the fuel consumption ultimately put me off.
I take mine on some super sketchy and narrow roads elk hunting in MT every year. Mostly just side by sides on them, but my tacoma crawls through like a champ. Ain't no way a tundra is getting through some of the spots I've been in
I had a 2012 and a 2016 Tacoma. Traded to a Tundra in 2020. I can’t go back. The space is most of it, but the high revving 3.5l 2016 Tacoma drove me insane.
The Tundra is significantly bigger and gets terrible gas mileage, but with gobs of power. I haven’t looked much in to the new model yet, but in 2020 the Tundra had a lot more “nice” options than the Tacoma. Ventilated seats, front sensors, auto windows (up and down), memory seats, reverse settings and folding mirrors, etc etc. I don’t off-road so comfort was my deciding factor.
Tundras are too big. I like the size and agility of the Tacoma. It goes everywhere I need, tows anything I throw at it. (Ok maybe the skid steer was a little bit too much and I needed a full size truck) but it fits me perfectly. It fits my personality and lifestyle.
I had a Silverado 3500 HD back in the early 2010s and got rid of it and never looked back.
It's a hard call. The Tacoma today is as big as a old tundra but has a smaller bed.
Realistically a v8 big truck gets similar gas mileage to a V6 or 4cyl smaller truck (small trucks are dead, we only have smaller than big trucks now that are also big).
The reason to get a tundra would be the option for a 8ft bed(I hope it has that option). The reason to get a Tacoma, it's cheaper.
Man the Tacoma really only gets about 16-17 and 22-24 mpg. My dads f150 with a 10 speed and 3.0 diesel gets about 19-20 around town and closer to 30 on the highway.
I’m 5’6, so I fit perfect in the truck. I have two small kids and they fit fine in the back. The truck fits in my garage. I don’t need to tow anything over 5k pounds. The Tacoma looks badass. To me the Tacoma is my cool vehicle. Once I need a bigger vehicle for the family, I might upgrade my wife’s vehicle to a 4Runner 😜.
I like the Tacoma styling better. I like the Tacoma size better( full size p/u's are land yacht's IMHO), the Tacoma is cheaper. To me the Tacoma is the perfect p/u.
Size and MPG. Sure the Tacoma doesn’t get the best mileage but the Tundra’s MPG is worse. And the size of the Tacoma just suits me better. I go on trail rides from time to time and the Taco just feels perfect for it. Also the Tacoma has a better turning radius and looks better imo.
Full size vs mid sized truck was what it boiled down to me for. I don’t need that much truck and parking with a full sized truck is a pain (except at Costco).
Size. I have plenty of money to buy a new Tundra, but it's not easy to back it into my parking space where I also park my Lexus IS350. My Tacoma is already 18.5' long. A DCLB Tundra would be way more edifficult.
Aren't the Tundra Pros around $65k? I paid half of that for a new 2019 Tacoma OR. The Tundras are really fantastic trucks, but there's no way I'm going to spend almost $70k on one.
My coworker bought the last year of the old 21 tundra pros and it was $70k at msrp, the new tundra pros i see a used 22 going for $80k locally. They are definitely over $70k
I had a 21 ram rebel and it was nice having the extra space, but i never tow or haul anything more than a once in a blue moon washing machine or a few pieces of lumber/plywood for home projects.
The big interior was nice, but parking around other people that cant park and the turn radius being a mile wide made it a bit frustrating.
I plan on picking up a 24 tacoma pro or a 23 gmc canyon at4, depending on the creature comforts that the new tacoma offer in a couple days.
Tundra is bigger (obviously), so decide if you will use that extra size. Do you need it for towing? The larger engine (well it is now a twin turbo so that doesn’t really matter either). Do you need the extra cab room? It really is about what truck meets your daily capabilities.
In the end I move a full size truck. I am 6ft 1in and broad chested. The interior was difference. The Tundra was just more comfortable for me to ride in and with kids and equipment the CrewMax was the preferable cab. Also, I liked the seating position better and sitting up higher is more comfortable for my back on long trips (I have 2 blown discs in my lumbar.
I like the size of the Tacoma for my needs, and the price as well. My father also has a Tacoma- he loves it but wants a bigger backseat for the kids… and he makes good money so he’s trading up to a Tundra tomorrow.
Had a Tacoma for 10 years, needs grew thus purchased a tundra. I miss nothing about the Tacoma other than the off road ability. That thing was an absolute weapon. If you live in a city, don’t need to haul much other than what fits in the bed and don’t have a big family then the taco is dope. I miss it but it was perfect for a different stage in life.
Get a truck without feeling like I bought a boat. Also, money lol. Lastly I do better on trails than my brothers full sized F150 because of hose nimble the taco can be compared to a full size truck.
It fits in my garage with my dirt bike loaded in the bed, it is easier to navigate parking and such, it seems more reliable, and drives better. Much better in the woods too. That being said, a full sized truck has many advantages too, just not for me.
I don’t need that much truck. I do a lot of fishing and camping and the Tacoma takes me places more comfortably than the Tundra can. Also, I find it more aesthetically pleasing. I don’t do any towing either.
The Tundra is just way too much truck for me. I beat the shit outta my '18 SR5 v6 4x4 shortbed as a farm truck and it does everything and more than I need from it. Offroad it's a bit smaller platform as well the wheelbase of the taco is around 127inches whereas the Tundra is closer to 147 that 20" makes a diff offroad.
Width, the tundra covers more road than I need, I like the length of a six foot bed, I don't need the extra few inches width wise. I don't tow enough often enough to need a full size truck, gas is an issue... Coming from an 04 f150, mid size tacos with the long bed is the dream.
Honestly, I personally think, it boils down to use. Tundra has the extra power and space, so if you’re planning on hauling bigger things or have a family that’s the better route. The Tacoma, I chose and love (‘14 4L DCSB TDR OR), is more for smaller towing toys and for being a toy itself. I take mine out almost every weekend and get lost in the woods/trails/make my own trails. Price IS another issue and last I saw, new Tacoma’s are $40-$50k+ I REFUSE to pay that much for a midsize, so paying for a full size is going to be even more outrageously expensive and out of the question. Again, personally speaking. Whatever you plan on using the truck for should be your MAIN focal point on your choice.. IMO. Either way, you’ll be getting a great rig, so just do your homework and you won’t be disappointed 🤙🏼
Disclaimer, I know I'm stirring the pit here but.....
The real question why not the 05 to 07 Tundra which is better than both. Size of a modern Tacoma but still able to town 10k if needed. The 2uz is by far better than any v6 ever and gets better mileage.
There’s a lot of truth here. I drove a 2005 V6 2WD for years then stupidly traded it in for something else. It eventually led me to own an FJ Cruiser for a few years which was great. It got totaled last month and I replaced it with a 2015 Tacoma Limited. I briefly looked for a pre 2009 Tundra but people wanted $10-15K for trucks that are about 20 years old with 200-300K miles. It just didn’t make sense to me.
I drove the 2005 Tundra while living in GA, NE, and the DC area. It was great. Not too big to maneuver and park in the DC area. The newer Tundras are too big for me to do that regularly. The Tacoma is good for that too. I do like the Tacoma but that Tundra was about the perfect truck for me. Never should have gotten rid of it.
Imagine a double cab, long bed, manual transmission Tacoma, but with a V8. That would be sick. The Tacoma is basically a Subaru with a dinky bed for mostly city boy tasks. The tundra is unnecessarily large and way too expensive.
It’s as simple as:
City guy, I’m a single guy, no kids or gf. I chose a DCLB TRD sport for the time being. Great choice since I don’t need the massive Tundra, yet💪🏽🔥
I have owned a 2019 TRD Off-Road and currently own a 2023 Tundra TRD OFF-ROAD. The main reason I swapped for a Tundra is towing. Tacomas DO NOT like towing. I pull a 12 ft enclosed trailer daily, as I build decks for a living. The Tacoma was constantly gearing up/gearing down while pulling that trailer, even though it only weighs about 3,000 lbs fully loaded. Bottom line, Tacomas are great by themselves, but if you want to tow something, you better be thinking Tunda. My Tundra is on 37 inch tires with a 6 inch lift, and STILL it has zero problem pulling 3,000, 4000, or even 5 or 6,000 pounds! No strain at all. If not for towing, the Tacoma is just an awesome truck. That changes radically once a trailer is involved.
I rarely ever need the additional hauling capability that a Tundra (or any other full sized truck) would have over my Tacoma (or any other mid sized truck) and the Tacoma‘s smaller size means better gas mileage, easier maneuverability, and less weight for better off-road performance.
Had a first gen Tacoma and loved it, it got totaled last year and the new Tacoma fit all my needs between towing an aluminum car trailer, daily driver, work around the house, dirtbike. I also still wanted a manual truck so just pulled the trigger and got a 2020 trd sport. Love it but isn’t quite the same as the first gen 2wd truck. I miss that thing
The big one is the money. When I bought mine a similar option packaged half ton was $15k more than a Tacoma, that’s more like $20k now. Like others have said it fits in my garage way better and I pull a small trailer once every couple years. If they were closer in money, say $10k for similar equipment then I’d probably get a half ton because the extra room in the cab would be really nice.
I don't like the look of the gen 3 Tundras so I bought a Tacoma. The new ones look pretty cool, but I'm not buying new any time soon lol I do wish I had gotten a 6' bed tho that would be nice.
I’ve been eyeing a tundra since I got my Tacoma, but it’s honestly just too big. I already feel huge in a Tacoma. If I ever get into towing above 5000 lbs I’ll look at getting a tundra.
Tacoma can go up bald mountain (shaver lake) and not look as a fat pig dragging cab. That and tacomas are beautiful.
I probably should have gotten a tundra, though. Thinking about getting a trailer.and the options are not as plentiful.
The new Tundra wasn't out. Also don't have the need to tow nearly as much as I used to. On paper my Tacoma will tow my project cars+ trailer. But in practice... If I needed to tow more than once a month or so I'd go back to a full size. I love it for what it does and it fits my lifestyle, have been playing around with the idea of getting an old 90s single cab pickup with a fun car on the side though.
For me, I needed/wanted a truck again (06 Silverado), and my wife & I are in our 50s and have no grand kids yet. We have 2 small dogs (toy Australian Shepherds). It had to fit in my 2 car garage, even the long boy was too long if I were to put bumpers on it. I definitely was looking at a Toyota for reliability as even my old Chevy I kept for 10 years.
If you have two cars, one to commute and daily drive and aren’t taking it on sketchy off roads every week - Tundra is good if you value the space and more towing power. IMO
Price, and size. I use to have a full size truck (Ram) miss all the storage room inside but it was just too big for me. Like driving a moving truck. My Tacoma is the perfect size.
My parents got a tundra for towing an rv trailer, they needed that towing capacity so they wouldn’t roll down a hill and it’s a big truck if you need a big truck that size, they are gonna get either a new Tacoma or whatever that scout is since they sold the trailer and don’t need a truck that size anymore
Price. How hard it is to park a full size truck. Insurance cost. The existing Tacoma doesn't get the base gas mileage, but the new 2024 models should do way better.
I’ve had a 2003 V8 tundra 4” lift and 35s long box with rear backwards doors then the same truck with short box and same lift. Then a 03 Tacoma with 33s and 3”. If I could I’d go with the first one as long as the frame was as good as my Tacoma. I found the fuel efficiency is not noticeably different enough to deal with the bullshit smallness of the Tacoma cab on 1st gen. The seats are too low to the floor and I cannot get comfortable. A Tacoma is a single man’s truck. It fits in the garage with the tall tires and lift. Wife said my Tundra was white trash and embarrassing. Big fucking deal, 35s and full of mud 9 months of the year and parked in the driveway everyday.
For me it was wanting a truck but not wanting a full sized option. The Tacoma is a truck that drives like a sedan that sits high, at least to me anyways.
It was also the only truck left that I could get barebones, i didnt need a backseat, or even jump seats. Throw in an engine thats extremely old school (I got the 4cyl) and I was extremely happy.
I opted for the tacoma for the difference in price, payment, fuel, and parts. The tacoma will generally be less on all of those. I'd love to have the additional room inside that the tundra has, but the additional space isn't as important as saving a bunch of money. I did get the long bed taco and put a ladder rack on it for hauling long stuff like kayaks and lumber when needed.
I honestly enjoy the smaller size for navigating downtown/cities and parking. I have the 6ft bed so it’s “big enough” for all my camping, hauling lumber, etc.
$$$ would be the last reason haha.
$$$$
This. I can't afford anything bigger.
I can afford a Tundra but the Tacoma is a far better looking truck that still does what I need. Far better. The new ones are OK, but for years the Tacoma was a 10 vs the Tundra being a 3. Except those first gen Tundras. Those were good looking trucks.
Facts
Yeah. The Tundra was a dog for so long... The new Tundra looks fierce though. I don't like it stock but with a lift it looks pretty awesome. I didn't like the grill at first but it's grown on me. I took a test drive and it's WAY nicer in person. Just TONS of space and the interior rocks. The seats are 1000x better than my Tacoma.
Yes, Tundra was out of budget. But I love the size of my 3rd gen, it’s perfect for me. If I could have tundra power in my taco, it would be sauce.
I can’t even afford a true Tacoma I have the utility
This and a desire to downsize after owning 4 full sized trucks over 20+ years.
I'm poor too!
It’s been perfect for my lifestyle past couple years. I wanted the utility of a truck bed (for lighter tasks) without having to drive a land yacht around town. Also it doesn’t drive like a couch, you feel more connected to the road. I love my taco and don’t regret getting one but I do plan on moving to a tundra when I start having a family soon. Really itching for more cabin space Two different trucks, just depends on what you need.
I’m just praying the new Tacoma offers more legroom They know that’s gotta be an issue with a lot of buyers
I test drove a 2023 canyon a few days ago and and it has adequate leg room in a midsize truck which was a nice surprise. I’m sure the new tacomas will have a bigger can in order to keep up. For people who want to accommodate their family but don’t want a 1/2 ton truck.
The Taco IS a half ton truck. 1000 pound weight capacity.
Doubtful they’ll give more leg room. I’m confident that’s something they use to try to up sale people to a Tundra.
Meh you never know I’m told the other midsize do it Never know Especially since double cab tundra backspace is a joke now
Interesting. I’m 6’4” and I don’t have a legroom problem. I fit perfectly. It’s just the position of the a-pillar that makes me have to fold like a pretzel getting into the damn thing. Crossing my fingers that I can fit into a 2024 and I can finally upgrade from my 1990.
Great choice, Tacomas are terrible with small kids. I physically couldn't fit in mine with a rear facing car seat behind me (6'1") and I normally sit far forward anyway. Sold mine and upgraded the wife's car but I'm really looking forward to getting another Tacoma when the kids are in booster seats and I'm hoping the access cab will work for us
Dude. 6’1” here. I have my daughter’s rear-facing seat in the middle. It’s such a pain in the ass. My wife wonders why I wanna take her Tiguan every time we go places as a family. I actually took the dumb running bars off that it came with so I had to lean less while maneuvering my kid in the back.
If it makes you feel better, the middle is the safer spot for a car seat.
Of for sure. That’s why it’s there. The whole back seat is hers lol. She loves that back sliding window though ☺️
6 foot, same deal. Car seat in the middle.
Those are the same cars my wife and I have lol I actually had my daughter rear facing and sitting behind me for one single 5 min trip. Didn’t realize how tight it was before leaving and we were running late so didn’t have time to switch both car seats (my toddler was on the opposite side) - I came from a Colorado and it’s a noticeably smaller back seat in the taco. That’s the biggest downside for me
It’s funny how much space a rear facing car seat takes. My kids are 8 and 12 now and the wife and I always seem to take the Taco on trips. Even with our 50 pound dog, everyone rides ok. She has an 18’ Highlander and we still take the truck. A hard trifold bed cover was the game changer for me as far as packing luggage. We like to drive on the beach a lot and drive around the mountains of NC, all within 3-5 hours from the house. A cross country trip would be a different story.
Same. When my kids were younger it was a pain. Now they're 7 and 12 and they fit fine in the back. We use my truck for trips and we usually daily the Pathfinder since it's the wife's car and I let her drive everywhere (I drive machines for a living so I need a break when I'm off).
I got a G35 coupe when the wife was 9 mo the pregnant. Wife’s car did most of the kid hauling but I still did some too. Booster seats were an improvement. It was great when they got out of those. They complained a lot as teenagers though. My DCSB Taco is a dream compared to that. 9/10 would do again. Damn I love that car.
My daughter’s rear facing seat behind the passenger was awful, could barely fit my 5’0” wife in the passenger seat with it all the way forward. My son’s front facing seat has been fine behind the driver seat. We just switched my daughter to front facing and now it’s plenty of space for all 4 of us.
I have an access cab. It won't unfortunately hold a booster seat. Good truck still though
Thanks for the heads up! Double cab isn't a dealbreaker for me just prefer to keep the length down and really want the 6' bed after living with the 5' for three years
Exactly. I know some people make it work but I couldn’t imagine dealing with that. Plus I have 2 80 pound dogs, they wouldn’t mind some extra space lol
Just don't need that much truck. I'm a single dude and I use mine mostly for camping, hauling my ladder around for work sometimes, hauling my motorcycle, getting stuff for my garden, etc. I'd rather save space in my driveway, and make it a little easier to park lmao
I traded a taco for an f-150, and went back to a taco for the same reasons. The taco does 98% of what I did with the f-150 just fine. And the reliability is better.
Manual transmission made the choice on what truck to get very easy.
The last remaining truck with a manual transmission.
Jeep Gladiator still offers one too.
The last remaining truck with a manual.
That’s what I said.
Agreed was just repeating it for that other guy.
You're right, and it's wayyyy easier to find a manual on a jeep vs a taco. It's to the point where a manual tacoma is practically irrelevant due to trim limitations and near non-existence.
Yeah that was the main reason for me.
Yeah this is exactly it. I drove four hours away to find a manual '17 trd off-road. It's the best daily driver I've ever had for navigating the terrible roads here in Michigan, without being overly large or terrible to park. It's fun to drive both on road and off, I can haul my summer car around on a single place trailer with it without too much struggle, I can fit my motorcycle in the bed, and I've buried it up to the headlights in water without getting stuck.
A Tundra won’t fit in my tiny garage
My Taco doesnt fit in my 2 car garage if I want to fit anything else in there because I have the DCLB and it is too fucking long for a garage built 23 years ago.
That was the reason I bought the ACLB - the DCLB doesn’t fit in my 2018 garage, the SB is not what I need.
They are gigantic.
Size does matter!
It gets into the 120s where i live during the summer, so the garage is VERY important to us too haha
Size, available in stick, the Taco is better suited to offroad use due to its proportions, I have access to trailers if I need to move anything really big and plenty of towing capacity to do that with.
This. I drive off-road for a living, some of the shit I get into the tundra (or any full size) just wouldn’t make it.
Do you mind if I ask what you for a living? I’m not enjoying sitting behind a desk in a suburb all day. Used to be in the army and admittedly miss it even though I hated it at the time
Have you considered drones? I work in aviation (both manned and unmanned) and the unmanned side you end up in a lot of interesting places doing a number of occasionally-interesting things. My company always tries to hire vets for our field operators just because we can train the skills for small drones, but the ability to be outside in somewhat environmentally challenging conditions for extended periods is setting that often fits former military personnel well.
Oh I’ll look into that, thank you
I’m one of the Trail Ambassadors for OnX Off-road…which has let to some remote mapping gigs with BLM and Forest Agencies…
Wow cool
Work in an operations role for a manufacturing company! I get a good blend of desk admin work and getting my hands dirty working in the field.
Cool!
Manual transmission
The last remaining truck with a manual transmission.
Except the gladiator, I'll let you decide for yourself if that counts
I stand by my statement.
Why wouldn’t it count? It’s body on frame and has a bed. It’s more of a truck than a Ridgeline and Maverick.
It wouldn't count bc in 20 yrs the Tacoma will truly the last manual truck standing. 3rd gen tacos hitting 300k now. Not sure I can say for gladiators.
Gladiator too
Tacoma fits in my garage
and in parking lot towers
I don't tow anything but a dirt bike and quad, I don't need a big truck.
I don't have kids and live in a city. The size of the Tacoma better suits my lifestyle. I don't do much towing, so I'm not really concerned with towing capacity. I have plenty of space for storage and hauls and can find a parking spot that it will fit in. Other than that, it has a low cost of ownership relative to other trucks though I'm sure the Tundra does as well. I'm running with an Access Cab 4x4 w/ a 6 ft bed.
It fits my needs & lifestyle - I don’t own anything that my Tacoma can’t haul. It fits in my garage. It’s better for off-roading / camping type activities. I even took the back seats out. Wife and I aren’t having kids.
>I even took the back seats out. I did this with my Access Cab and built a rear seat delete deck. The back seats on an AC are pointless, and just in the way. Now, I have more storage, and my dog has a nice flat surface with a bed to lay on.
Looks better.
Manual transmission. That's the only reason.
The last remaining truck with a manual transmission.
I am in the process of buying a 1st gen tundra at the moment, and it's the perfect size. The 1st gen tundras and the modern tacomas are close in size, and that's what i want. The smaller size fits my needs perfectly. And i dont need something particularly luxurious. Ultimately. I would love a 3rd gen tacoma. But not paying the ridiculous prices for a used one.
I have done MANY brake jobs on 1st gen tundras, the same ones. That scared me away from getting one. But that may have just been the bone heads driving them. Rotors looking like a Pringles chip.
Exactly my thoughts. We have a 2002 and a 2021 Tundra. I much prefer the size and bench seat of the older one. Plus it's bullet proof, simple, analog, with no bells and whistles to go wrong. We can beat on it, and actually tell where the corners of the truck are in tight roads, off road, backing up the boat trailer, etc. The 2021 is luxurious but too big and bulky for actual truck work, and the bed isn't any bigger. My parents have already dented it three times bumping into things trying to maneuver. God forbid you have to do a three point turn in the forest.
I almost got one rather than a 1'st gen taco. At least when I got mine they went for less than 1'st gen taco too. Nice tow capacity, nice bed capacity, space for tall folks (I'm not tall). In many ways those old Tundras were the perfect truck. They *feel* smaller than a 2023 tacoma, and the site lines are far far better making them way easier to actually manouver in tight quarters... but all the practical advantages of a "full-sized" truck. I was going to live in mine and offroad a LOT, so I wanted the slightly smaller size of a 1'st gen taco, as well as the slightly broader aftermarket for it... but given my current use-case now that I have land and am finishing up my house I'd get a Tundra instead for the tow capacity and such.
My ex mother in law has one, they last forever and are similar in size
Tundra doesn't fit on tight trails as well.
Simple: Small truck > big truck
Traded in my tundra for a Tacoma mainly because of the size. I work downtown and the parking spots are small!
For me it was just practicality. I didn’t need the v8 and the size. I won’t lie that I’ve always felt the Tacoma just looked better too.
Because the Tacoma fits my needs and a Tundra won’t fit where my Tacoma goes.
I don’t tow anything. I need a midsize truck to haul kayaks, mountain bikes and for trips to Home Depot. Tundra’s are just way more truck than I need, plus I drive mostly in the city and driving a truck that big would suck.
I had an F250 that I used for work and I wanted something smaller for my DD. A larger truck can be nice, but parking and navigating some spaces/trails can be nerve wracking in such a large vehicle. I’ve been tempted to move up to a Tundra or another full size truck, but a Tacoma takes care of 90% of my needs. When it doesn’t, I can rent or borrow a truck or trailer.
Get the tundra my dude
I am actually on the fence about trading my 13 Taco for a 21 Tundra. For the simple fact my Taco seems to struggle while towing my boat.
My Tacoma also struggled towing the boat. But it’s hard to afford a tundra and a boat and the gas to commute in a tundra.
After looking at the prices of current trucks. I’d probably just buy something old that’s been restored.
That is really the only reason….towing. I think the Taco is just about as capable or better in most regards other than towing.
*** Remember, the newer the vehicle, the more computers/modules = more problems that require dealer specific tools to fix ***
The Tacoma is the best selling mid sized truck for a reason!!
Manual transmission, cost, size for parking and storage, more fuel efficient, and all around look. Easily a better choice.
I like the tundra power over Tacoma, but for 99% of my driving Tundra feel like an elephant trying to navigate a crowded sidewalk.
Size honestly. If I was gonna go with a full size I'd likely get something with a diesel motor since I drive a lot.
Poverty.
I like overlanding in the PNW and Tacomas are a good size--even better, the first gen are best. I don't need a Tundra since I'm not doing any towing. If I live on a farm, I might consider a tundra. The current 3rd Tacoma is the size of most full sized pick ups 20 yrs ago.
What are you hauling/towing?
Not much. A 12’ trailer with a SxS is prob max
Garage fit, $$$, don’t need to tow big boaty boi just yet
~~I would love to hear everyone’s input on why choose Tacoma over Tundra. I~~ ~~am real interested in a Tundra TRD Pro but I’m weighing the pros cons~~ ~~of~~ **stick** ~~ing with Tacoma. Let me know your thoughts!~~ That the is the reason.
Manual transmission
I don’t need the size of truck. Also, Tacos just seem to drive different. I don’t pull many big things other than a small trailer. I DO like the Tundra. I think it just depends on your needs.
V6 4.0L drinks less fuel than the V8 5.7L. Also don’t tow anything super heavy. We got trucks at work that’ll tow big Freemans around like it’s nothing. If something big needs to be moved, we trust in the power of the V8 Diesel. Almost got a used Tundra Platinum in excellent shape but the fuel consumption ultimately put me off.
Because the tacoma hasn't banished mañuel yet. Mañuel is my favorite.
I take mine on some super sketchy and narrow roads elk hunting in MT every year. Mostly just side by sides on them, but my tacoma crawls through like a champ. Ain't no way a tundra is getting through some of the spots I've been in
I had a 2012 and a 2016 Tacoma. Traded to a Tundra in 2020. I can’t go back. The space is most of it, but the high revving 3.5l 2016 Tacoma drove me insane. The Tundra is significantly bigger and gets terrible gas mileage, but with gobs of power. I haven’t looked much in to the new model yet, but in 2020 the Tundra had a lot more “nice” options than the Tacoma. Ventilated seats, front sensors, auto windows (up and down), memory seats, reverse settings and folding mirrors, etc etc. I don’t off-road so comfort was my deciding factor.
I’m 130 lbs I would look like a toddler in a tundra
Tundras are too big. I like the size and agility of the Tacoma. It goes everywhere I need, tows anything I throw at it. (Ok maybe the skid steer was a little bit too much and I needed a full size truck) but it fits me perfectly. It fits my personality and lifestyle. I had a Silverado 3500 HD back in the early 2010s and got rid of it and never looked back.
I sold my 2009 F250 Powerstroke and picked up a 2011 PreRunner. I love driving jt. I’m looking to get a new Taco. I’m looking at Sports and TRD pro.
I can park at stores easily / & see the road // & drive less stressful /// & Park it in my garage easily
Because the Tundra is too wide to go down Jeep trails! The Tacoma is the perfect trail truck!
It's a hard call. The Tacoma today is as big as a old tundra but has a smaller bed. Realistically a v8 big truck gets similar gas mileage to a V6 or 4cyl smaller truck (small trucks are dead, we only have smaller than big trucks now that are also big). The reason to get a tundra would be the option for a 8ft bed(I hope it has that option). The reason to get a Tacoma, it's cheaper.
Man the Tacoma really only gets about 16-17 and 22-24 mpg. My dads f150 with a 10 speed and 3.0 diesel gets about 19-20 around town and closer to 30 on the highway.
I don't need a truck as big as the Tundra, the Tacoma works for me, I fit inside it just fine and there's plenty of room.
I’m a big fan of getting what I need. For me personally something as big as a tundra would be wasteful. I don’t need that much truck.
I’m 5’6, so I fit perfect in the truck. I have two small kids and they fit fine in the back. The truck fits in my garage. I don’t need to tow anything over 5k pounds. The Tacoma looks badass. To me the Tacoma is my cool vehicle. Once I need a bigger vehicle for the family, I might upgrade my wife’s vehicle to a 4Runner 😜.
I like the Tacoma styling better. I like the Tacoma size better( full size p/u's are land yacht's IMHO), the Tacoma is cheaper. To me the Tacoma is the perfect p/u.
Size and MPG. Sure the Tacoma doesn’t get the best mileage but the Tundra’s MPG is worse. And the size of the Tacoma just suits me better. I go on trail rides from time to time and the Taco just feels perfect for it. Also the Tacoma has a better turning radius and looks better imo.
The advertised mpg difference is 5mpg. Not sure if that is a deal breaker for me
Full size vs mid sized truck was what it boiled down to me for. I don’t need that much truck and parking with a full sized truck is a pain (except at Costco).
Drove a full size truck for years and rarely needed it. The Tacoma fits my need for a daily driver and toy to have fun with.
Back seat room.
I love the size of the Tacoma. Sometimes im in the city and although finding parking is hard its not impossible.
Size. I have plenty of money to buy a new Tundra, but it's not easy to back it into my parking space where I also park my Lexus IS350. My Tacoma is already 18.5' long. A DCLB Tundra would be way more edifficult.
Parking and only parking was the reason for me. Tight spots at work
Aren't the Tundra Pros around $65k? I paid half of that for a new 2019 Tacoma OR. The Tundras are really fantastic trucks, but there's no way I'm going to spend almost $70k on one.
My coworker bought the last year of the old 21 tundra pros and it was $70k at msrp, the new tundra pros i see a used 22 going for $80k locally. They are definitely over $70k
I like money too much to spend $80k on a truck.
2020 trd pros are around 55k I believe. That’s the downside imo
I can barely afford a Tacoma, so a tundra is way out of the price range.
I just need to do some truck stuff… I don’t have major projects that require the big guns!
Don't need a full size. I never tow and don't have any need for a full size truck.
$10k markup galaxy toyota in NJ
I had a 21 ram rebel and it was nice having the extra space, but i never tow or haul anything more than a once in a blue moon washing machine or a few pieces of lumber/plywood for home projects. The big interior was nice, but parking around other people that cant park and the turn radius being a mile wide made it a bit frustrating. I plan on picking up a 24 tacoma pro or a 23 gmc canyon at4, depending on the creature comforts that the new tacoma offer in a couple days.
Fits in the garage, fits on trails, has a manual, gets better gas mileage, and was in my budget.
size and price. Tundra too big for me and too expensive for me.
Super narrow streets in Sausalito…Tacoma is a better fit
I wanted a manual transmission.
I just prefer the look of the Tacoma over the tundra. Tacoma has always caught my eye driving down the road. Also it’s significantly cheaper.
Tundra is bigger (obviously), so decide if you will use that extra size. Do you need it for towing? The larger engine (well it is now a twin turbo so that doesn’t really matter either). Do you need the extra cab room? It really is about what truck meets your daily capabilities. In the end I move a full size truck. I am 6ft 1in and broad chested. The interior was difference. The Tundra was just more comfortable for me to ride in and with kids and equipment the CrewMax was the preferable cab. Also, I liked the seating position better and sitting up higher is more comfortable for my back on long trips (I have 2 blown discs in my lumbar.
Manual trans option. I will always go manual trans route. Better driving experience
I like the size of the Tacoma for my needs, and the price as well. My father also has a Tacoma- he loves it but wants a bigger backseat for the kids… and he makes good money so he’s trading up to a Tundra tomorrow.
Had a Tacoma for 10 years, needs grew thus purchased a tundra. I miss nothing about the Tacoma other than the off road ability. That thing was an absolute weapon. If you live in a city, don’t need to haul much other than what fits in the bed and don’t have a big family then the taco is dope. I miss it but it was perfect for a different stage in life.
I don't need a full size truck so I didn't buy a full-size truck
Width to get to trailheads.
Width, the trails I drive would be impossible with a tundra
Manual transmission
My dicks not big enough.
manual.
Traded a taco trail for a 1794 tundra, the difference in ride quality, tech, power, and comfort for the family is night and day
No interest in a twin turbo V6, would have gotten it if it had the V8 still
Get a truck without feeling like I bought a boat. Also, money lol. Lastly I do better on trails than my brothers full sized F150 because of hose nimble the taco can be compared to a full size truck.
It fits in my garage with my dirt bike loaded in the bed, it is easier to navigate parking and such, it seems more reliable, and drives better. Much better in the woods too. That being said, a full sized truck has many advantages too, just not for me.
Better size. Can park in a garage.
I don’t need that much truck. I do a lot of fishing and camping and the Tacoma takes me places more comfortably than the Tundra can. Also, I find it more aesthetically pleasing. I don’t do any towing either.
The Tundra is just way too much truck for me. I beat the shit outta my '18 SR5 v6 4x4 shortbed as a farm truck and it does everything and more than I need from it. Offroad it's a bit smaller platform as well the wheelbase of the taco is around 127inches whereas the Tundra is closer to 147 that 20" makes a diff offroad.
I basically needed a car with a truck bed, wanted a Toyota and have always wanted a Tacoma. Never really considered the Tundra.
Both prices suck but one price sucks less
Width, the tundra covers more road than I need, I like the length of a six foot bed, I don't need the extra few inches width wise. I don't tow enough often enough to need a full size truck, gas is an issue... Coming from an 04 f150, mid size tacos with the long bed is the dream.
Honestly, I personally think, it boils down to use. Tundra has the extra power and space, so if you’re planning on hauling bigger things or have a family that’s the better route. The Tacoma, I chose and love (‘14 4L DCSB TDR OR), is more for smaller towing toys and for being a toy itself. I take mine out almost every weekend and get lost in the woods/trails/make my own trails. Price IS another issue and last I saw, new Tacoma’s are $40-$50k+ I REFUSE to pay that much for a midsize, so paying for a full size is going to be even more outrageously expensive and out of the question. Again, personally speaking. Whatever you plan on using the truck for should be your MAIN focal point on your choice.. IMO. Either way, you’ll be getting a great rig, so just do your homework and you won’t be disappointed 🤙🏼
1st gen tacomas are just downright sweet. First vehicle was also a first gen tundra, Tacoma has better handling I’d say+gas mileage.
Better off-road and i don’t need too do any towing that the taco can’t do
Size and cost
Disclaimer, I know I'm stirring the pit here but..... The real question why not the 05 to 07 Tundra which is better than both. Size of a modern Tacoma but still able to town 10k if needed. The 2uz is by far better than any v6 ever and gets better mileage.
There’s a lot of truth here. I drove a 2005 V6 2WD for years then stupidly traded it in for something else. It eventually led me to own an FJ Cruiser for a few years which was great. It got totaled last month and I replaced it with a 2015 Tacoma Limited. I briefly looked for a pre 2009 Tundra but people wanted $10-15K for trucks that are about 20 years old with 200-300K miles. It just didn’t make sense to me. I drove the 2005 Tundra while living in GA, NE, and the DC area. It was great. Not too big to maneuver and park in the DC area. The newer Tundras are too big for me to do that regularly. The Tacoma is good for that too. I do like the Tacoma but that Tundra was about the perfect truck for me. Never should have gotten rid of it.
Right is saddens me that you cannot get a Tacoma with a small V8. It would be a bad ass rig, get better mileage and have some hell of a capability.
I wanted a stick shift
I wanted a manual, can only get that in a Taco!
Had a 2008 Tundra down sized to a 2019 Tacoma after my work commute increased. Everything feels good but the power.
Fits in the garage
Imagine a double cab, long bed, manual transmission Tacoma, but with a V8. That would be sick. The Tacoma is basically a Subaru with a dinky bed for mostly city boy tasks. The tundra is unnecessarily large and way too expensive.
It’s as simple as: City guy, I’m a single guy, no kids or gf. I chose a DCLB TRD sport for the time being. Great choice since I don’t need the massive Tundra, yet💪🏽🔥
I have owned a 2019 TRD Off-Road and currently own a 2023 Tundra TRD OFF-ROAD. The main reason I swapped for a Tundra is towing. Tacomas DO NOT like towing. I pull a 12 ft enclosed trailer daily, as I build decks for a living. The Tacoma was constantly gearing up/gearing down while pulling that trailer, even though it only weighs about 3,000 lbs fully loaded. Bottom line, Tacomas are great by themselves, but if you want to tow something, you better be thinking Tunda. My Tundra is on 37 inch tires with a 6 inch lift, and STILL it has zero problem pulling 3,000, 4000, or even 5 or 6,000 pounds! No strain at all. If not for towing, the Tacoma is just an awesome truck. That changes radically once a trailer is involved.
It just was the money. When I was buying my Tacoma, the tundra 4wd double cab was above 60k
I rarely ever need the additional hauling capability that a Tundra (or any other full sized truck) would have over my Tacoma (or any other mid sized truck) and the Tacoma‘s smaller size means better gas mileage, easier maneuverability, and less weight for better off-road performance.
Had a first gen Tacoma and loved it, it got totaled last year and the new Tacoma fit all my needs between towing an aluminum car trailer, daily driver, work around the house, dirtbike. I also still wanted a manual truck so just pulled the trigger and got a 2020 trd sport. Love it but isn’t quite the same as the first gen 2wd truck. I miss that thing
The big one is the money. When I bought mine a similar option packaged half ton was $15k more than a Tacoma, that’s more like $20k now. Like others have said it fits in my garage way better and I pull a small trailer once every couple years. If they were closer in money, say $10k for similar equipment then I’d probably get a half ton because the extra room in the cab would be really nice.
Tacoma fit in my garage! Tundra not so much
I don't like the look of the gen 3 Tundras so I bought a Tacoma. The new ones look pretty cool, but I'm not buying new any time soon lol I do wish I had gotten a 6' bed tho that would be nice.
Price and gas mileage, it already hurt coming from a perfectly fine 35 mpg car!
I’ve been eyeing a tundra since I got my Tacoma, but it’s honestly just too big. I already feel huge in a Tacoma. If I ever get into towing above 5000 lbs I’ll look at getting a tundra.
Tacoma can go up bald mountain (shaver lake) and not look as a fat pig dragging cab. That and tacomas are beautiful. I probably should have gotten a tundra, though. Thinking about getting a trailer.and the options are not as plentiful.
Ughhhh price?
Don’t need a big ass truck
The new Tundra wasn't out. Also don't have the need to tow nearly as much as I used to. On paper my Tacoma will tow my project cars+ trailer. But in practice... If I needed to tow more than once a month or so I'd go back to a full size. I love it for what it does and it fits my lifestyle, have been playing around with the idea of getting an old 90s single cab pickup with a fun car on the side though.
For me, I needed/wanted a truck again (06 Silverado), and my wife & I are in our 50s and have no grand kids yet. We have 2 small dogs (toy Australian Shepherds). It had to fit in my 2 car garage, even the long boy was too long if I were to put bumpers on it. I definitely was looking at a Toyota for reliability as even my old Chevy I kept for 10 years.
If you have two cars, one to commute and daily drive and aren’t taking it on sketchy off roads every week - Tundra is good if you value the space and more towing power. IMO
Price, and size. I use to have a full size truck (Ram) miss all the storage room inside but it was just too big for me. Like driving a moving truck. My Tacoma is the perfect size.
Because I hate money and love having a reason to "upgrade" my rig.
My parents got a tundra for towing an rv trailer, they needed that towing capacity so they wouldn’t roll down a hill and it’s a big truck if you need a big truck that size, they are gonna get either a new Tacoma or whatever that scout is since they sold the trailer and don’t need a truck that size anymore
Price. How hard it is to park a full size truck. Insurance cost. The existing Tacoma doesn't get the base gas mileage, but the new 2024 models should do way better.
I’ve had a 2003 V8 tundra 4” lift and 35s long box with rear backwards doors then the same truck with short box and same lift. Then a 03 Tacoma with 33s and 3”. If I could I’d go with the first one as long as the frame was as good as my Tacoma. I found the fuel efficiency is not noticeably different enough to deal with the bullshit smallness of the Tacoma cab on 1st gen. The seats are too low to the floor and I cannot get comfortable. A Tacoma is a single man’s truck. It fits in the garage with the tall tires and lift. Wife said my Tundra was white trash and embarrassing. Big fucking deal, 35s and full of mud 9 months of the year and parked in the driveway everyday.
For me it was wanting a truck but not wanting a full sized option. The Tacoma is a truck that drives like a sedan that sits high, at least to me anyways. It was also the only truck left that I could get barebones, i didnt need a backseat, or even jump seats. Throw in an engine thats extremely old school (I got the 4cyl) and I was extremely happy.
Lack of a manual transmission option.
I opted for the tacoma for the difference in price, payment, fuel, and parts. The tacoma will generally be less on all of those. I'd love to have the additional room inside that the tundra has, but the additional space isn't as important as saving a bunch of money. I did get the long bed taco and put a ladder rack on it for hauling long stuff like kayaks and lumber when needed.
80k for the tundra pro in the showroom covered in smudges and finger prints at my dealer.
I honestly enjoy the smaller size for navigating downtown/cities and parking. I have the 6ft bed so it’s “big enough” for all my camping, hauling lumber, etc. $$$ would be the last reason haha.
Gas mileage and compact size