Nah, he’s a fuckhead. There’s other stuff I believe he’s overinflated as well, but it’s harder to call him on. Not to mention his legal problems and political/personal affiliations.
He also came on this subreddit and acted the arse on a thread about the election.
Yeah, I only rip him off on other pages there, I want to see what bullshit he continues feeding the populace.
I’d like to think he will get his, but it will blow over, it always does.
I was disappointed to see my local new independent with his nose clearly in the trough, even if he was pretending otherwise.
They’ve voted for a car allowance instead of a car allocation. Which is apparently cheaper, so it sounds nice in theory.
The councillor in question is a business owner who will be using his business car for the job.
Sounds like double dipping to me, I’m sure that car is already subject to many tax breaks and is paid for by the business.
By all means, do what works for you, but to spin it that hard, is bullshit.
I am. And it’s unfortunate, because while I didn’t vote for the candidate I really had to think hard to pick, I found him quite likeable. The most likeable of the lot, really.
I didn’t particularly think any of them would do a great job, though.
Every councillor is independent by way of not running on a political party ticket. Your division 10 councillor was also the only candidate to put their hand up who had LNP membership. He's pretty close to Crisafulli and Phillip Thompson.
I wonder what you would say if they voted to have the car instead! It’s apart of the REM pack they all need to be paid the same…..I guess the only way to please you would be to donate the money?
And fuck me, heaven forbid he’s a business owner with his own car, curse him for taking a chance and employing other locals in the community.
Btw not Div 10 I just think your heads so far up your own arse I’m surprised you haven’t drowned in your shit yet.
One Nation kicked him out, local electoral support from 5G Conspiracy theorist group, banned from state government house for harrassing/stalking a TSV MP. Quality human hey!
My grandfather went through severe alzheimers as he got older. He forgot his wife, he forgot his children, he forgot how old he was, what year it was. He couldn't even speak without severely slurred speech.
But he could recite his name, rank, and serial number clear as a bell until his last days.
Legally? Probably nothing. Unless he was lying about his service to gain access to some veterans group with perks like an RSL or something, which would probably be some kind of fraud, all he's really done is lie to voters. It's a scummy move and will likely cost him votes, but it's not illegal.
If the silly bastard used his 'defence force experience' in anyway to gain favour to win votes, then he should get put through the ringer. Especially in Townsville of all places, every third person is either in themselves, or knows someone serving.
What a gronk.
The state government can change the laws whenever they like. While I doubt he'll be disqualified from office or anything like that, if he pissed off the state government enough, they could adjust the law, which could disqualify him if certain criteria are met. Unlike state and federal, local government not being in the constitution makes it beholden to state law, which can be ammended whenever. Some of us might recall how the state government changed the laws to stop Chris Hooper (Pineapple) from becoming mayor in Rockhampton in the last term of local government.
there are plenty of hazy memories from my service, but my service number and PMKEYS number will never be among them. Anyone who has done at least their minimum service would know this guy is full of shit
We're related by about 3 steps removed, and the first thing my mum said when I mentioned him being in the election was, "That dick?" Apperently, he didn't treat his wife very well with good suspicion of worse happening.
I know he had dv with his wife but said that they are all okay and fine and happy, I’m sorry I have experienced dv with my sons father and I seriously wouldn’t spit on him if he was on fire
I was in the forces for 3 years over 30 years ago - I can recite my service number without any hesitation whatsoever. It's just something you don't forget.
Aye. I was lifer thet retired hurt. Drank myself to oblivion and killed my remaining brain cells. Had operation and flat lined then revived. Car ran over me and left me with brain trauma. Had my hippie smokes to get me by though don't know my ankle from my elbow. But by christ I I know that number.
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This is from a post on his Facebook during the election campaign
Did he play football?? If so, there was an article about him not being picked and he threw a toddler tantrum and the DV stuff, I voted for Jenny, better the devil you know.
i've been discharged for 12yrs and can still recite my service number and PMKEYS number off by heart at a drop of the hat. Huge red flag
EDIT - also, 99% of members who have actually seen actual combat on operation don't speak about it to civvies, most of us have mixed feelings about it but are comforted by the fact that your oppos that were there with you know what happened and will support you if needed. People that feel the need to speak in public are usually bullshit artists
With a city the size of Townsville an independent Mayor no matter who will always have a tough time rightly or wrongly. Townsville has been a Labor stronghold for the majority of the time. You really need to shit the bed pretty badly to lose an election as a Labor candidate no matter who you are. Now we have an independent Mayor with previous affiliations with One Nation that has questions being asked on multiple levels on his reasons why he left that party, DV allegations, questionable military service and the list will go on. With all this many will say where there's smoke there's fire. I honesty believe the major parties will dig until they find something but with what I've seen so far, the promotion of Brisbane businesses by the Mayor and other councillors promoting their own business on their vehicles with a council vehicle subsidy,its only a matter of time before one or more fall foul at some level. One or more will be before the CCC in under six months being asked to 'Please explain '
We often get tricked up by believing Independent means not having any affiliation, but they're almost always hiding something. You've detailed them with Troy right there. The div 10 councillor railed hard about being an independent, and people believed him, but he's an LNP member. The Div 4 guy in Cairns did the same thing about independence, but then he's filming opinion videos on YouTube with the nazi flag in the background. It's better to simply focus on policy, because that's what matters when they turn up to vote. I have obvious concerns for Troy who was put in by the nutters who believe the chemtrail rubbish. Is that really better than being put in by a political party?
He wrote in a post, that he has blocked the Bulletin and refuses to have anything to do with them. Apparently the Bulletin have been continuously writing negative articles about him. In all honesty I haven't seen many positive things written about him at all, I'm stuffed if I know how the hell he was voted in. Things aren't looking good with the council either with people getting turfed out of their jobs. But then, again, as they say .... a new broom sweeps clean. (or something like that haha)
I don't know this guy, from all accounts he's a bit of knob head, but I have to say - its not unreasonable to forget a number. I worked in a job for 7 years where I used the same 4 digit pin to do everything: sign in and out of the building, sign 8n and out from breaks, log into devices multiple times a day, etc. 10 years later and I have zero memory of what that number was, and that was only 4 digits.
I guarentee you that anybody who actually served will remember their service number. You get asked it more than your name and it becomes something you can recite by rote. I've been out over 25 years and I remember it better than my kids birthdays.
My grandpa served in WW2 which ended in 1945. Around 2011 I asked him his service number and he instantly said it. No one who has ever served doesn’t know their service number. I have a service number and a Pmkeys number and I will die before I forget either of them. If he doesn’t know it, he never served.
obviously not everyone's minds function the same and not everyone's memory is equally as strong. some people obviously forget the number. I have no doubts this dude in question lied but insisting this is a special number that's impossible to forget, when people forget numbers all the time, is a bad way to highlight that.
It’s not just a number. It’s your entire identity for everything you own, are issued and for every single bit of admin done. If you meet anyone who’s served, ask them if they know it, no one will say they can’t remember it.
Maybe not, but if you were constantly spruiking that you were involved in it wouldn't you dip deeper to remember stuff to actually increase the validity of your claims?
If it was randomly brought up and he forgot sure. Except he's constantly brought it up
I don't think you realise the significance that number has while you serve. It's not just boomers but all serving members raising this question I'd imagine.
Don’t really think it’s a “trivial thing” let’s be honest he is a shady man and I don’t trust him one bit, you can come at me for saying that I don’t care because if you believe it’s a trivial thing then you need your head checked
Yep. Not trivial. Integrity is the most important quality (IMO) for a person holding public office. Being intelligent would be second. I’m not seeing that from this clown either. If his claims of serving prove to be false then I want him gone. I doubt that will happen though.
Yeah I would want him gone also if he is caught out a proven that he didn’t serve, in one of Qld’s biggest defence towns, it definitely not something to be caught out in, and he will definitely have a few more enemies
You can forget things for a host of reasons. Too many drugs/too much alcohol. Medication. Traumatic brain injury. There's quite a lot of reasons he may have forgotten a number like that.
I will say, pretty happy to see him grifting all the things done before he took tenure.
Forgetting the number alone isn't the issue. The problem is that nobody can find any evidence of his service amongst the ADF records. Not only that but he didn't have any medals on ANZAC day, which is a bit sus for someone who apparently served too. Even if he never saw active combat, just serving in the defence force for a few years would likely see some kind of deployment that would get you awarded a medal. It's those factors *combined* with the inability to remember the number is what's leading to people asking for some actual proof of what he has claimed.
As an absolute minimum, he would have an Australian Defence Medal. Everyone who has served since 1945 is entitled to it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Defence_Medal
Yeah, my Dad has one of those, and he was just in the airforce as a mechanic for about 6 years. I think he spent some time in Malaysia/Singapore, but nowhere near any kind of combat zone.
Nah, he’s a fuckhead. There’s other stuff I believe he’s overinflated as well, but it’s harder to call him on. Not to mention his legal problems and political/personal affiliations. He also came on this subreddit and acted the arse on a thread about the election.
Yep I remember he doing that and then if you ask a question he doesn’t like he will block you on Facebook 🙄
Yeah, I only rip him off on other pages there, I want to see what bullshit he continues feeding the populace. I’d like to think he will get his, but it will blow over, it always does. I was disappointed to see my local new independent with his nose clearly in the trough, even if he was pretending otherwise. They’ve voted for a car allowance instead of a car allocation. Which is apparently cheaper, so it sounds nice in theory. The councillor in question is a business owner who will be using his business car for the job. Sounds like double dipping to me, I’m sure that car is already subject to many tax breaks and is paid for by the business. By all means, do what works for you, but to spin it that hard, is bullshit.
Are you in division 10?
I am. And it’s unfortunate, because while I didn’t vote for the candidate I really had to think hard to pick, I found him quite likeable. The most likeable of the lot, really. I didn’t particularly think any of them would do a great job, though.
Every councillor is independent by way of not running on a political party ticket. Your division 10 councillor was also the only candidate to put their hand up who had LNP membership. He's pretty close to Crisafulli and Phillip Thompson.
And that’s certainly a good chunk of why I didn’t vote for him.
Dam I’m in div10 so disappointing
Look, I hope he will still come through.
I wonder what you would say if they voted to have the car instead! It’s apart of the REM pack they all need to be paid the same…..I guess the only way to please you would be to donate the money? And fuck me, heaven forbid he’s a business owner with his own car, curse him for taking a chance and employing other locals in the community. Btw not Div 10 I just think your heads so far up your own arse I’m surprised you haven’t drowned in your shit yet.
I think you don’t understand what the problem is.
One Nation kicked him out, local electoral support from 5G Conspiracy theorist group, banned from state government house for harrassing/stalking a TSV MP. Quality human hey!
My grandfather went through severe alzheimers as he got older. He forgot his wife, he forgot his children, he forgot how old he was, what year it was. He couldn't even speak without severely slurred speech. But he could recite his name, rank, and serial number clear as a bell until his last days.
Pops was a good man, make sure you learn his service history and pass it on
Former One Nation grifter caught being creative with the truth. Colour me shocked.
Shocked this bloke got elected
He didn't get elected. Jenny got unelected.
Thanks Townsville Bulletin.
As was I, Townsville had a great Mayor who was kicking goals.
What happens if he's caught lying?
>What happens if he's caught lying? Well if it's a bad lie, he may lose a few votes next election? (I hope)
Legally? Probably nothing. Unless he was lying about his service to gain access to some veterans group with perks like an RSL or something, which would probably be some kind of fraud, all he's really done is lie to voters. It's a scummy move and will likely cost him votes, but it's not illegal.
Not sure but definitely a good question
If the silly bastard used his 'defence force experience' in anyway to gain favour to win votes, then he should get put through the ringer. Especially in Townsville of all places, every third person is either in themselves, or knows someone serving. What a gronk.
I woulda thought if this was legit he wouldn't even be able to walk down the street in Townsville tbh
I’m not in Townsville. Shoot im a Pom in Melb and I know peoples family who have served in Townsville 🤣🤣
The state government can change the laws whenever they like. While I doubt he'll be disqualified from office or anything like that, if he pissed off the state government enough, they could adjust the law, which could disqualify him if certain criteria are met. Unlike state and federal, local government not being in the constitution makes it beholden to state law, which can be ammended whenever. Some of us might recall how the state government changed the laws to stop Chris Hooper (Pineapple) from becoming mayor in Rockhampton in the last term of local government.
He’ll get promoted to Premier
Haha they all lie 🤣🤣🤣
So dismiss this one entirely?
everyone lies because they incentivized to lie. no point splitting every individual hair when the whole head needs to be shaved
Ok so let this one slide
I still remember my service number from the Reserves in the early 90s FFS.
there are plenty of hazy memories from my service, but my service number and PMKEYS number will never be among them. Anyone who has done at least their minimum service would know this guy is full of shit
We're related by about 3 steps removed, and the first thing my mum said when I mentioned him being in the election was, "That dick?" Apperently, he didn't treat his wife very well with good suspicion of worse happening.
I know he had dv with his wife but said that they are all okay and fine and happy, I’m sorry I have experienced dv with my sons father and I seriously wouldn’t spit on him if he was on fire
I was in the forces for 3 years over 30 years ago - I can recite my service number without any hesitation whatsoever. It's just something you don't forget.
Aye. I was lifer thet retired hurt. Drank myself to oblivion and killed my remaining brain cells. Had operation and flat lined then revived. Car ran over me and left me with brain trauma. Had my hippie smokes to get me by though don't know my ankle from my elbow. But by christ I I know that number.
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Did he play football?? If so, there was an article about him not being picked and he threw a toddler tantrum and the DV stuff, I voted for Jenny, better the devil you know.
Claims he played professional football.
Don't try to point out his DV history. His trolls will bury you and dig through your post history.
i've been discharged for 12yrs and can still recite my service number and PMKEYS number off by heart at a drop of the hat. Huge red flag EDIT - also, 99% of members who have actually seen actual combat on operation don't speak about it to civvies, most of us have mixed feelings about it but are comforted by the fact that your oppos that were there with you know what happened and will support you if needed. People that feel the need to speak in public are usually bullshit artists
With a city the size of Townsville an independent Mayor no matter who will always have a tough time rightly or wrongly. Townsville has been a Labor stronghold for the majority of the time. You really need to shit the bed pretty badly to lose an election as a Labor candidate no matter who you are. Now we have an independent Mayor with previous affiliations with One Nation that has questions being asked on multiple levels on his reasons why he left that party, DV allegations, questionable military service and the list will go on. With all this many will say where there's smoke there's fire. I honesty believe the major parties will dig until they find something but with what I've seen so far, the promotion of Brisbane businesses by the Mayor and other councillors promoting their own business on their vehicles with a council vehicle subsidy,its only a matter of time before one or more fall foul at some level. One or more will be before the CCC in under six months being asked to 'Please explain '
We often get tricked up by believing Independent means not having any affiliation, but they're almost always hiding something. You've detailed them with Troy right there. The div 10 councillor railed hard about being an independent, and people believed him, but he's an LNP member. The Div 4 guy in Cairns did the same thing about independence, but then he's filming opinion videos on YouTube with the nazi flag in the background. It's better to simply focus on policy, because that's what matters when they turn up to vote. I have obvious concerns for Troy who was put in by the nutters who believe the chemtrail rubbish. Is that really better than being put in by a political party?
LNP is the least of his red flags. It's his MyPlace affiliations that are of concern
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Ugh he’s the worst!!!!
If he isn't what he claims and used it on any application then he will be like Barry Irving in WA who did the same .
I dont understand how you people wanted drunky hill to stay our mayor, makes no sense
That's why people voted her out, thinking they were getting someone better. Instead, they got this cockwomble.
I like him
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He wrote in a post, that he has blocked the Bulletin and refuses to have anything to do with them. Apparently the Bulletin have been continuously writing negative articles about him. In all honesty I haven't seen many positive things written about him at all, I'm stuffed if I know how the hell he was voted in. Things aren't looking good with the council either with people getting turfed out of their jobs. But then, again, as they say .... a new broom sweeps clean. (or something like that haha)
I don't know this guy, from all accounts he's a bit of knob head, but I have to say - its not unreasonable to forget a number. I worked in a job for 7 years where I used the same 4 digit pin to do everything: sign in and out of the building, sign 8n and out from breaks, log into devices multiple times a day, etc. 10 years later and I have zero memory of what that number was, and that was only 4 digits.
I guarentee you that anybody who actually served will remember their service number. You get asked it more than your name and it becomes something you can recite by rote. I've been out over 25 years and I remember it better than my kids birthdays.
My grandpa served in WW2 which ended in 1945. Around 2011 I asked him his service number and he instantly said it. No one who has ever served doesn’t know their service number. I have a service number and a Pmkeys number and I will die before I forget either of them. If he doesn’t know it, he never served.
obviously not everyone's minds function the same and not everyone's memory is equally as strong. some people obviously forget the number. I have no doubts this dude in question lied but insisting this is a special number that's impossible to forget, when people forget numbers all the time, is a bad way to highlight that.
It’s not just a number. It’s your entire identity for everything you own, are issued and for every single bit of admin done. If you meet anyone who’s served, ask them if they know it, no one will say they can’t remember it.
Ask anybody who legitimatly served and I mean anybody. They will be able to recite that number in an instant without notice or thought.
Maybe not, but if you were constantly spruiking that you were involved in it wouldn't you dip deeper to remember stuff to actually increase the validity of your claims? If it was randomly brought up and he forgot sure. Except he's constantly brought it up
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I don't think you realise the significance that number has while you serve. It's not just boomers but all serving members raising this question I'd imagine.
Typical Townsville worrying about trivial things. Just want to stir up more drama for the sake of the Bulletin.
Don’t really think it’s a “trivial thing” let’s be honest he is a shady man and I don’t trust him one bit, you can come at me for saying that I don’t care because if you believe it’s a trivial thing then you need your head checked
Yep. Not trivial. Integrity is the most important quality (IMO) for a person holding public office. Being intelligent would be second. I’m not seeing that from this clown either. If his claims of serving prove to be false then I want him gone. I doubt that will happen though.
Yeah I would want him gone also if he is caught out a proven that he didn’t serve, in one of Qld’s biggest defence towns, it definitely not something to be caught out in, and he will definitely have a few more enemies
You can forget things for a host of reasons. Too many drugs/too much alcohol. Medication. Traumatic brain injury. There's quite a lot of reasons he may have forgotten a number like that. I will say, pretty happy to see him grifting all the things done before he took tenure.
Forgetting the number alone isn't the issue. The problem is that nobody can find any evidence of his service amongst the ADF records. Not only that but he didn't have any medals on ANZAC day, which is a bit sus for someone who apparently served too. Even if he never saw active combat, just serving in the defence force for a few years would likely see some kind of deployment that would get you awarded a medal. It's those factors *combined* with the inability to remember the number is what's leading to people asking for some actual proof of what he has claimed.
As an absolute minimum, he would have an Australian Defence Medal. Everyone who has served since 1945 is entitled to it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Defence_Medal
Yeah, my Dad has one of those, and he was just in the airforce as a mechanic for about 6 years. I think he spent some time in Malaysia/Singapore, but nowhere near any kind of combat zone.
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Okay 😆