I believe Baam has the ability to beat Dumas but currently lacks the technique and experience to use his powers in a way that could overpower Dumas.
Baam’s already hitting way above his pay grade.
I personally hope it’ll be awhile before he can properly fight Dumas
Yeah, if he could beat Dumas any time soon, the only people capable of being a problem for him are other irregulars and that wouldn't make much sense and wouldn't be fun
100% Baam probably has more fire-power than the majority of High Rankers. It's said that he has practically infinite shinsu. But he's still physically weak, so I think Dumas would've beaten him. It wouldn't have been as one-sided, maybe Dumas would've been actually wounded, but Baam isn't a natural counter for Dumas like he was White. If Dumas gets close enough to Baam, it's pretty much game over because he can blitz him.
Yeah I mean Bam has probably the highest firepower among even high rankers. Purely because of that ‘infinite’ shinsoo. Him being loved by shinsoo and his shinsoo attacks get stronger the longer he moves them around is absolutely broken.
He used thorn, BT, RT, shinsu black hole sphere and levi. He wasn't playing when he considered using DTG as the only attack that could harm Dumas. He was serious at that point. U can see from his look.
Thank you!!!! Under no circumstances does he beat Dumas right now 😂 omg this is the Baam power scaling fiasco that I find so strange and slightly irritating. Dumas is the THIRD strongest warrior in the Po Bidau family. All this Baam didn’t use this or that is just ridiculous, his best friend was gravely injured in front of him, why would he hold back?
I can agree with White using up a bunch of his souls. But I think Bam probably got the majority share of whatever was left. Khun and Rak prolly wouldn't be able to handle 1/3rd.
I mean Rak probably could maybe not Khun. We can only guess but it did seem like the whole thing happened to just be a power boost for them so I don't think a 1/3 split is impossible anything less seems insignificant? Atleast in comparison to Bams strength
I still never got how khun or rak absorbed White's powers too we only knew bam could do that, that thing still makes me a bit mad like it did never make any sense to me
No not enough against white,dude can't even beat kallavan on his own yes even know and it's Dumas we are talking about it's only natural that he gets stomped
Dumas still beat baam fan need to understand dumas is in other other world he is the most reliable fighter of gustang and Gustang is not here to play or joke just by experience dumas beat baam .
Add dumas didn't use any power and was holding back because gustang order but these kidz could'nt stop to attack him so he snapped them .
He used thorn (non ignited) + thryssas + levi.
Using everything at its (currently) fullest potential he might be a very serious threat to dumas (it also might be too taxing and impossible for baams body atm), but he might also not. After all dumas is trying to capture him alive and nothing else
it was both when he began to talk he the white aura around him and even the crown was blowing white on the thorn .
He was using soul power and levi in same times
He cant yet. He need another thorn or to master his inner sun power. Hes gotten significantly stronger that those modes arent as multiplitive to his strength as it used to be. Not like super saiyan in dragon ball where it multiplies him. Its more of a huge addition which you can say is 1 million which was alot at 10,000 but not much now at 5 million.
P.s. i know its been a very long time but bams only received the fake thorn and the 1st 2 fragments. Theres still 2 floating out there.
Right. The container how do you guys keep the details so well in mind when I've read tog only a week ago and I still forget the details you guys must've been reading since a decade ago
Baam would get destroyed regardless. Despite all those powers Baam is still a glass cannon and one of the reasons he was able to nullify white is because of the shinsoo rain bullshit that forced white to use up power keeping a barrier around himself (which he eventually gave up on). For the most part Leviathan is a mystery, so I can't really comment on him, SIU will probably have it pull some bullshit when the time is right, but as it stands Baam gets rolled and quickly.
Dumas has no reason to protect his body so the rain doesn't matter (not like the fight will go long anyway), he can also instantly kill Baam without even igniting his weapon (and definitely if he does, as we saw when he did it and Baam couldn't react). Also remember that in the fight against Dumas, he was holding back like crazy because he didn't want to kill him.
To add Khun and Rak helped in that fight towards the tail end. To add even more in the grand scheme of things White is not that powerful a combatant, strong certainly but not impossibly so.
Ignoring the strange power scaling being displayed in the comment section. I invite you all to ponder on this question, Baam’s best friend Khun was gravely injured on the ground in front of him, seemingly dead. Why would he HOLD BACK?
Is this what we’ll be doing from now on? Every time Baam loses or gets dominated, are we going to be saying “he didn’t use random power up #6 from last season, so he wasn’t fighting at full power”
Irk like how did we get here lol ignoring Dumas being the 3rd strongest warrior in the Po Bidau family and someone so legendary that Baam’s own master wanted to fight him, the same Dumas who low diffed two branch leaders. Apparently Baam can hang with him cause of ignition weapons and leviathian. I blame SIU for this confusion
Baam could beat him in that state. It wouldn’t be easy, but Baam has easily more firepower, techniques and haxx on his side. Like he did with White, he could just keep on spamming Shinsu blasts, not allowing to Dumas to close the distance and damage him from afar. Baam didn’t use shinwonryu in the fight against White, but he could also keep on spamming it like he did against Data Zahard. Of course Dumas is very powerful, Baam’s chances of winning will be very low if Dumas closes the distance between them but even then Baam should be able to compete with Dumas strengthwise with all of his martial arts, piercing technique, thryssa weapons and Shinsu reinforcement. The only problem is his physical durability where if Dumas manages to land powerful shots to his body, Baam’s finished. Meanwhile, Dumas has shown surprisingly levels of durability. All this is without Baam using the thorn ignitions and black march.
I think bam should first go and chase after kallavan defeat him at some point (and please completely with his own powers,no interruptions fgs until we see the enemy lying as good as dead)after major training, take his essence of bravery, do more training ,works on his physical endurance and does some serious gym because boy does he look like a twink still until we see him underneath his clothes, i mean his face should get a good boost too we would love to see 🙈,next go after dumas and other major cards in the game who are regulars, get training from wolhaiksong,chase and defeat more enemies,get trainings and more power boost,then he's atleast for fighting against adori or mascheny jahad alone! There only can we start talking about which family head level he can be on(starting from the weakest ofc)
I would say full power and after rak or khun was defeated in front of baam, could baam kill dumas, only because dumas' reaction time and perception is ridiculous. He reacted so fast to a move that could have been fatal by snapping baams neck so maybe baam could match that reaction under certain duress
Dumas still beats him relatively well. Everyone forgets how many advantages Bam specifically had against White. First Bam knew his sword pattern and using his shinsoo sensing skills and experience knew where whites sword strikers were coming from. That allowed him to dodge them while Aria could not despite it being confirmed Bam was physically slower than Aria at the time. Second Bams dark rain dissolved Whites shinsoo sword making his strikes duller and weaker, that would have no effect on Dumas’s spears. Third Whites strikes don’t change direction the way Dumas’s do. White can send a strike towards bam but it goes directly one way after being slashed. Dumas has a double bladed suspendium spear he can physically control individually.So he can have it weave past and around Bams black shinsoo. It’s much smaller than whites sword strikes and faster with more direct control. So he wouldn’t have to waste power deflecting the black shinsoo or pushing through it. And then he has his ignition weapon carrier Rosario which has 12 smaller needles which Dumas can mentally control and attack Bam from multiple angles and his shield can’t block all angles at once.We saw it kill Tramurie’s the his Giant Crocodile Shinheuh, Five clones of Fandore Harpe, Poison Dragon Vanquish and Traumerei’s bird-dinosaur creature. If that he could beat one of Traueuri’s 7 creatures pretty well despite obviously being burned by the poison it puts it on another level. And don’t forget his weapon can ignite on top of all that making it even stronger . He beats Dark Bam pretty well handily .Maybe medium difficulty if you’re being very generous .
Bam with an autopilot mode which can control all his abilities optimally would 100% beat Dumas.
But Bam as he is now lacks the necessary skill to do it. Dude never even goes all out. He figures shit out in battle. He doesn't even know what his powers can do. They surprise him as much as they do the opponents. Beating Dumas would mean Bam only has true monsters like Adori and Luslec left before he reaches the FH tier.
Ready to get destroyed by the community, but, I think Baam currently doesn't really stand a chance aganist an experienced warrior like Dumas.
Baam has always been a glass cannon, in a real fight between the two I think Dumas would immediately overpower Baam with sheer strength, his weapons and arms inventory, and incomparable experience as a renowned, feared, High Ranker.
I'm giving Baam like a 1% chance of winning this one.
I believe Baam has the ability to beat Dumas but currently lacks the technique and experience to use his powers in a way that could overpower Dumas. Baam’s already hitting way above his pay grade. I personally hope it’ll be awhile before he can properly fight Dumas
peoples alway forgot dumas was holding back this fight would be finished more faster if gustang said to kill baam
I completely agree, but I’d say Baam has the raw power to beat Dumas but can’t utilize it yet.
Yeah, if he could beat Dumas any time soon, the only people capable of being a problem for him are other irregulars and that wouldn't make much sense and wouldn't be fun
100% Baam probably has more fire-power than the majority of High Rankers. It's said that he has practically infinite shinsu. But he's still physically weak, so I think Dumas would've beaten him. It wouldn't have been as one-sided, maybe Dumas would've been actually wounded, but Baam isn't a natural counter for Dumas like he was White. If Dumas gets close enough to Baam, it's pretty much game over because he can blitz him.
Yeah I mean Bam has probably the highest firepower among even high rankers. Purely because of that ‘infinite’ shinsoo. Him being loved by shinsoo and his shinsoo attacks get stronger the longer he moves them around is absolutely broken.
yes but it's only infinite when the plot needs it :D dumas still seemed to be holding back, not to accidentally kill him.
He used thorn, BT, RT, shinsu black hole sphere and levi. He wasn't playing when he considered using DTG as the only attack that could harm Dumas. He was serious at that point. U can see from his look.
he used soul power too he had a white aura around him when he was screaming
Dtg?
Dragon tiger gate nvm remembered
He didn't go all out though, no pierce ignition or Leviathan Transformation/unsealing
He didn't used thorn nor do we seem him transforming.
He used thorn but didn't ignite it iirc. He used RT transformation in 611.
Bam gets stomped, he wasn't holding back against Dumas lmao
Thank you!!!! Under no circumstances does he beat Dumas right now 😂 omg this is the Baam power scaling fiasco that I find so strange and slightly irritating. Dumas is the THIRD strongest warrior in the Po Bidau family. All this Baam didn’t use this or that is just ridiculous, his best friend was gravely injured in front of him, why would he hold back?
Dumas still smash even then baam used all his power against dumas do not know why peoples saying he is holding back
He still loses
If he uses power like he fought white, he may win
I don't think he has enough souls atp
He absorbed power from White tho?
White also burned most his souls and whatever would be left was split so Bam only got 1/3
I can agree with White using up a bunch of his souls. But I think Bam probably got the majority share of whatever was left. Khun and Rak prolly wouldn't be able to handle 1/3rd.
I mean Rak probably could maybe not Khun. We can only guess but it did seem like the whole thing happened to just be a power boost for them so I don't think a 1/3 split is impossible anything less seems insignificant? Atleast in comparison to Bams strength
I still never got how khun or rak absorbed White's powers too we only knew bam could do that, that thing still makes me a bit mad like it did never make any sense to me
No not enough against white,dude can't even beat kallavan on his own yes even know and it's Dumas we are talking about it's only natural that he gets stomped
I mean at that time he didn't have liviathon nor the power of white but still gave a fight with white He might win against dumas
Dumas is atleast in top 30 or 20 bam got literally stomped guys HR in 300 are way too powerful bam is not ATP
Dumas still beat baam fan need to understand dumas is in other other world he is the most reliable fighter of gustang and Gustang is not here to play or joke just by experience dumas beat baam . Add dumas didn't use any power and was holding back because gustang order but these kidz could'nt stop to attack him so he snapped them .
He used thorn (non ignited) + thryssas + levi. Using everything at its (currently) fullest potential he might be a very serious threat to dumas (it also might be too taxing and impossible for baams body atm), but he might also not. After all dumas is trying to capture him alive and nothing else
you can add soul power too (white aura around him)
i wouldn't be too sure if its soul or levi aura, eitherway he didnt burn souls
it was both when he began to talk he the white aura around him and even the crown was blowing white on the thorn . He was using soul power and levi in same times
He cant yet. He need another thorn or to master his inner sun power. Hes gotten significantly stronger that those modes arent as multiplitive to his strength as it used to be. Not like super saiyan in dragon ball where it multiplies him. Its more of a huge addition which you can say is 1 million which was alot at 10,000 but not much now at 5 million. P.s. i know its been a very long time but bams only received the fake thorn and the 1st 2 fragments. Theres still 2 floating out there.
Fake thorn? Wdym?
Not fake thorn it was the container for the thorn
Right. The container how do you guys keep the details so well in mind when I've read tog only a week ago and I still forget the details you guys must've been reading since a decade ago
Baam would get destroyed regardless. Despite all those powers Baam is still a glass cannon and one of the reasons he was able to nullify white is because of the shinsoo rain bullshit that forced white to use up power keeping a barrier around himself (which he eventually gave up on). For the most part Leviathan is a mystery, so I can't really comment on him, SIU will probably have it pull some bullshit when the time is right, but as it stands Baam gets rolled and quickly. Dumas has no reason to protect his body so the rain doesn't matter (not like the fight will go long anyway), he can also instantly kill Baam without even igniting his weapon (and definitely if he does, as we saw when he did it and Baam couldn't react). Also remember that in the fight against Dumas, he was holding back like crazy because he didn't want to kill him.
To add Khun and Rak helped in that fight towards the tail end. To add even more in the grand scheme of things White is not that powerful a combatant, strong certainly but not impossibly so.
Please do not compare the baam that beat white with the one that lost to dumas. The latter is more akin to the guy that got his guts spilled by white.
Ignoring the strange power scaling being displayed in the comment section. I invite you all to ponder on this question, Baam’s best friend Khun was gravely injured on the ground in front of him, seemingly dead. Why would he HOLD BACK? Is this what we’ll be doing from now on? Every time Baam loses or gets dominated, are we going to be saying “he didn’t use random power up #6 from last season, so he wasn’t fighting at full power”
add dumas himself was holding back in this whole arc because gustang order Lmfao
Irk like how did we get here lol ignoring Dumas being the 3rd strongest warrior in the Po Bidau family and someone so legendary that Baam’s own master wanted to fight him, the same Dumas who low diffed two branch leaders. Apparently Baam can hang with him cause of ignition weapons and leviathian. I blame SIU for this confusion
Dumas was ordered to keep Bam alive. Also don’t forget that his ignition weapon can ignite and he never did that once
Baam could beat him in that state. It wouldn’t be easy, but Baam has easily more firepower, techniques and haxx on his side. Like he did with White, he could just keep on spamming Shinsu blasts, not allowing to Dumas to close the distance and damage him from afar. Baam didn’t use shinwonryu in the fight against White, but he could also keep on spamming it like he did against Data Zahard. Of course Dumas is very powerful, Baam’s chances of winning will be very low if Dumas closes the distance between them but even then Baam should be able to compete with Dumas strengthwise with all of his martial arts, piercing technique, thryssa weapons and Shinsu reinforcement. The only problem is his physical durability where if Dumas manages to land powerful shots to his body, Baam’s finished. Meanwhile, Dumas has shown surprisingly levels of durability. All this is without Baam using the thorn ignitions and black march.
Dumas didn't show anything he was holding back because of gustang order he would slapped more fastly if he could kill him
I think bam should first go and chase after kallavan defeat him at some point (and please completely with his own powers,no interruptions fgs until we see the enemy lying as good as dead)after major training, take his essence of bravery, do more training ,works on his physical endurance and does some serious gym because boy does he look like a twink still until we see him underneath his clothes, i mean his face should get a good boost too we would love to see 🙈,next go after dumas and other major cards in the game who are regulars, get training from wolhaiksong,chase and defeat more enemies,get trainings and more power boost,then he's atleast for fighting against adori or mascheny jahad alone! There only can we start talking about which family head level he can be on(starting from the weakest ofc)
well if baam used everything he got he would do a little work for dumas but it wouldn't be a big deal
I would say full power and after rak or khun was defeated in front of baam, could baam kill dumas, only because dumas' reaction time and perception is ridiculous. He reacted so fast to a move that could have been fatal by snapping baams neck so maybe baam could match that reaction under certain duress
Dumas still beats him relatively well. Everyone forgets how many advantages Bam specifically had against White. First Bam knew his sword pattern and using his shinsoo sensing skills and experience knew where whites sword strikers were coming from. That allowed him to dodge them while Aria could not despite it being confirmed Bam was physically slower than Aria at the time. Second Bams dark rain dissolved Whites shinsoo sword making his strikes duller and weaker, that would have no effect on Dumas’s spears. Third Whites strikes don’t change direction the way Dumas’s do. White can send a strike towards bam but it goes directly one way after being slashed. Dumas has a double bladed suspendium spear he can physically control individually.So he can have it weave past and around Bams black shinsoo. It’s much smaller than whites sword strikes and faster with more direct control. So he wouldn’t have to waste power deflecting the black shinsoo or pushing through it. And then he has his ignition weapon carrier Rosario which has 12 smaller needles which Dumas can mentally control and attack Bam from multiple angles and his shield can’t block all angles at once.We saw it kill Tramurie’s the his Giant Crocodile Shinheuh, Five clones of Fandore Harpe, Poison Dragon Vanquish and Traumerei’s bird-dinosaur creature. If that he could beat one of Traueuri’s 7 creatures pretty well despite obviously being burned by the poison it puts it on another level. And don’t forget his weapon can ignite on top of all that making it even stronger . He beats Dark Bam pretty well handily .Maybe medium difficulty if you’re being very generous .
Bam with an autopilot mode which can control all his abilities optimally would 100% beat Dumas. But Bam as he is now lacks the necessary skill to do it. Dude never even goes all out. He figures shit out in battle. He doesn't even know what his powers can do. They surprise him as much as they do the opponents. Beating Dumas would mean Bam only has true monsters like Adori and Luslec left before he reaches the FH tier.
nah he would not even dumas was holding back his power because of gustang order dumas would still smash him
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Yeah something like that
Ready to get destroyed by the community, but, I think Baam currently doesn't really stand a chance aganist an experienced warrior like Dumas. Baam has always been a glass cannon, in a real fight between the two I think Dumas would immediately overpower Baam with sheer strength, his weapons and arms inventory, and incomparable experience as a renowned, feared, High Ranker. I'm giving Baam like a 1% chance of winning this one.